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Speaker 2: So you're saying they have a chance. Come on in

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Speaker 2: Dan and the Danis dan Patrick Show. NBA Finals tonight.

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Speaker 2: And the Pacers are a historical underdog against the thunder

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Speaker 2: not just in game one, whether nine and a half

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Speaker 2: point underdog started out at nine, but the entire series.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that coming up. The Oilers in overtime,

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Speaker 2: they go up one to zero in the Stanley Cup

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Speaker 2: Final against Florida. They're down three goals, and I went,

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Speaker 2: Florida will not give up the lead. They will not

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Speaker 2: lose this. They're Florida. They don't do this. They're the

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Speaker 2: defending champs. They got all this experience. But you can't

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Speaker 2: stop Leon Dreisidel. You can only hope to contain him.

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Speaker 2: And it sounded like this last night.

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Speaker 1: Out of the park, sharp Chin Hopkins, whit.

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Speaker 3: Where's the cam?

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Speaker 2: It's great, It was great, but it went, you know,

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Speaker 2: they're down three, and then I went, oh boy, uh

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Speaker 2: it was three to one, and then I go, oh boy,

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Speaker 2: they're not going to come back from this. And because

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Speaker 2: I just thought, you know, Florida, that's they're built like this.

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Speaker 2: They do the they come, they have the comebacks. But

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Speaker 2: give credit Edmonton. That was a lot of fun. And uh,

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Speaker 2: on your home ice and you're down three to one

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Speaker 2: and you start to go, no, here we go again,

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Speaker 2: all right? Age seven seven three DP show email address

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Speaker 2: DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it was Connor McDavid to Leon dry Sitle.

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Speaker 2: We only mentioned Leon dry Sidle when we get to

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Speaker 2: the postseason. It's one of the three best hockey players

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Speaker 2: in the world, so I'm told, And Connor McDavid is

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Speaker 2: the best hockey player, maybe the most talented hockey player

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Speaker 2: of all.

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Speaker 4: Time, or so I'm told. Yeah, Paul, it's.

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Speaker 5: Such a funny thing that people don't see during our

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Speaker 5: commercial breaks. You walk around here any time of year.

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Speaker 5: It could be summer, it could be winter, and you

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Speaker 5: just godle yes, you screaming like there's a goal happening.

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Speaker 2: And then Seaton has the Leon dry Sidle goal scoring

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Speaker 5: Not an actual call, not an actual call.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty close thing, uh, Leon Dreich title. Yeah, all right, so,

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Speaker 2: uh hockey last night? You got basketball coming up tonight.

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Speaker 2: My Rockies have won three in a row. I said

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Speaker 2: to Fritzi. I said, reach out to the Rockies play

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Speaker 2: by play voice, Jack Corgan.

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Speaker 4: Let me see if we could get Jack on.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is before they went on the three game

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Speaker 2: winning streak, and I'm like, have you mo on?

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Speaker 4: What's it like to go to the ballpark knowing that

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Speaker 4: your team is probably going to lose and you don't

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Speaker 4: want to bring your work home? But how do you

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Speaker 4: not bring your work home if you're the voice of

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Speaker 4: the Colorado Rockies. Well, they've won three in a row,

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Speaker 4: So I guess I'm their good luck charm because Jack Corgan,

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Speaker 4: the Colorado Rockies play.

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Speaker 2: By play voice, will join us well. So check in

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Speaker 2: with Tim McMahon covering the NBA Finals for the mother Ship.

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Speaker 2: Case you care for entertainment purposes, I mentioned the over

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Speaker 2: or the point spread was Pacers are getting nine and

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Speaker 2: a half, Shay Gilgas, Alexander over under, Marvin.

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Speaker 6: I'll start with you thirty one and a half, all right,

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Speaker 6: Paul twenty nine and a half, Todd twenty eight and

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Speaker 6: a half, Seaton thirty two point five, thirty three and

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Speaker 6: a half, thirty three and a half, and in case

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Speaker 6: you're wondering, Tyrese Halliburton over under.

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Speaker 5: Paul twenty five and a half, Marvin.

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Speaker 3: Twenty three and a half, Todd twenty six and a half.

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Speaker 4: Seaton seventeen and one half. Whoa bloo, Tyrese Haliburton is

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Speaker 4: not their score. Let's Pasco and Siakam and EVP. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Tyrese Haliburton, by the way, didn't make the All Star team,

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Speaker 2: but he did make the Olympic team. You know when

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Speaker 2: you talk about star power and you're like, okay, you

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Speaker 2: know SGA, SGA of course, MVP and scoring champ, all

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Speaker 2: the different things that have gone to him this season.

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Speaker 2: But Tyrese Halliburton, who had a great month and a half,

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Speaker 2: he was not an All Star this year. The commissioner

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Speaker 2: of the NBA, Adam Silver, was on Fox Sports One

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Speaker 2: and he brought up what we've been bringing up for

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Speaker 2: do it the All Star Game format next.

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Speaker 7: Year as part of our new media deals. The All

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Speaker 7: Star Game returns to NBC where.

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Speaker 4: It was when we were younger.

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Speaker 7: And it so happens that next season will be smack

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Speaker 7: So what better time to feature some form of USA

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Speaker 7: going back, you know last summer, our Olympic competition was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the commissioner admitted that he saw

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Speaker 2: the you know, four nations with hockey and the excitement

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Speaker 4: But this is what I've been pushing for. What else

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Speaker 2: I don't want it to devolve into what you know,

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Speaker 2: the NFL's All Star Game is, you know, the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't want that.

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Speaker 2: I do like the skills competition, some of the skills competition,

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Speaker 2: but let's try it. Let's just see you're going to

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Speaker 2: get at least some kind of competitiveness. You'll have certainly pride,

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Speaker 2: and that's all we care about. When you watch, you

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Speaker 2: want to know if they care, then all care. But

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Speaker 2: if you watch and you realize they don't care, then

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Speaker 2: I don't. But this, I'd be curious just to see

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Speaker 2: how the rest of the world reacts. Now, Team USA

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Speaker 2: might not get caught up in this until they lose

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Speaker 2: little momentum. The Team USA would probably well, they will

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Speaker 2: have a deeper roster, but they won't have the best

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Speaker 2: The starting five from around the world will be better

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Speaker 2: that's when you start to get the competitive and this

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Speaker 2: is down through history where you get guys that maybe

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Plan B is going to be

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Speaker 2: it's a glorified layup line and I'd like to see

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Martin, Well, Pride from who like I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: if Joker and Luca care whether the world beats us.

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Speaker 3: They care about Slovenia winning.

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Speaker 2: Well, but you're representing your country, are they?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think so.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're it's us against the world and you know,

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Speaker 2: I think and it says a lot of where basketball

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Speaker 2: the best players, and that says something about what the

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Speaker 2: Dream Team and the impact that the Dream Team had.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think there's pride because remember all those

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Speaker 2: We've we measured ourselves against the best best team ever assembled.

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Speaker 2: Now we can go back and they have these academies.

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Speaker 2: Now it was important. It's important to all these countries.

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Speaker 2: And I would think, you know, Canadian basketball, we don't.

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Speaker 2: We never talked about Canada with basketball, but Vince gets there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have Steve Nash there. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you get a trickle down effect and we don't look

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Speaker 4: From Canada.

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Speaker 2: I mean, sga, he went to Kentucky. Nobody goes, oh,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, he yeah, I kind of I'd see what

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Speaker 8: Marvin is saying that, you know, I don't know that

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Speaker 8: I think that Americans view it everything as America and

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Speaker 8: the rest of the world just sees themselves as one

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Speaker 8: that there's a lot more pride if you take a

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Speaker 4: But if they're not forced to play against the Team USA.

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Speaker 2: But if that's that's the way the format's going to be,

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Speaker 2: then I think there's going to be that pride of

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Speaker 4: The world has come. At least that's what I'm hoping for,

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Speaker 4: you know. Maybe it's maybe it's just me rooting for

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Speaker 4: something that something interesting. Yes, just please, just please care.

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Speaker 4: You gonna love this, You're gonna love this.

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Speaker 2: Come on that fun Hey, Luca Lucas Luca, put the

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Speaker 2: beer down. Okay, now I want you to really care

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Speaker 2: about this. Put the hookah down, Yes, Marmon.

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Speaker 3: The pressure is gonna be on those second tier guys

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Speaker 3: deserve to be All Stars. They have to play hard

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Speaker 4: Herese guys are gonna play hard.

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Speaker 3: They better and they better play well.

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Speaker 4: Team USA's got the pressure on them because.

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Speaker 3: If Jalen Brown or Jason Tatum come in as a

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Speaker 3: my god.

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Speaker 5: Yes, do we get Shay Gildess Alexander?

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, so it's Canada.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so it's North America ver International, it's.

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Speaker 4: The United States versus the world. Yeah, so we don't

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Speaker 5: I said, do we get Shake Gildes Alexander or did

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Speaker 4: No, they do them. Okay, Yeah, yeah it's Canada. We don't.

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Speaker 4: We haven't gotten Canada yet because.

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Speaker 5: He went to high school. Yeah, two years of high

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Speaker 5: acquire Shake Gildess.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, it's it's the United States

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Speaker 2: and then everybody else. He went to college in the

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Speaker 2: United States. That doesn't matter. He's from Canada. Steve Nash

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Speaker 2: wants to come out of retirement. He can play for

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Speaker 2: Team Canada.

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Speaker 3: They might need him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Leo Routins, remember Leo was It wasn't he the

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Speaker 2: first guy it felt like from Canada that We're like, hey,

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Speaker 2: Leo Routins, man from Canada played at Syracuse.

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Speaker 4: It was his number thirteen.

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Speaker 9: I think so.

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Speaker 4: But that's so random.

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Speaker 2: Leo Routins and he's one of the first great shooting

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Speaker 4: And you're right about that. Yeah, but I do like that.

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Speaker 4: That's why it's a national holiday, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 3: And in the NFL, the Super Bowl matchup isn't important

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and that's the magic of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: if you can figure out how to find Amazon, then

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Speaker 4: But you know, football is different. We gamble on football.

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Speaker 2: There's fantasy with football, and that's it's just it's a behemoth.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 4: Okay. I didn't know anybody asked for that.

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Speaker 3: Find that is some of that just did not happen.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So how about we take a break?

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Speaker 9: Is that? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: We probably share?

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Speaker 3: You're probably stay and break while I'm saying the song

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Speaker 3: No, I just read it to myself a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: What I love about you? No preparation? Do you need music.

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Speaker 2: Do you need anything that we can You know, Marvin's

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Speaker 3: The average person, music would be an enhancement and help

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Speaker 2: It's a de fritzie. We should reach out to the

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Speaker 2: He's been the play by play voice for the Rockies

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Speaker 2: I don't want to take credit for it, but I'll

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Speaker 11: You know, first of all, great to be with you, Dan,

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Speaker 11: enjoy your show. I've enjoyed your work for a long time,

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Speaker 11: a couple of Ohio guys, So you know that's a

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Speaker 11: good thing. Well, the most obvious aspect of it is

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Speaker 11: challenge for a team that's in the process of trying

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Speaker 11: and so they were able to match up a little better.

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Speaker 11: It's still going to be a challenge because of where

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Speaker 2: But going to work, and you know, baseball is about hope,

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Speaker 11: That's a great question.

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Speaker 11: I was fortunate, kind of in a backhanded way, if

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Speaker 11: if you will, to really compartmentalize. The great Joe Tate,

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Speaker 11: And maybe one of the best things he said, you know,

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Speaker 4: Do you bring it home with you when you lose?

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Speaker 11: No, Well, my wife might disagree with that. I think

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Speaker 11: You know, I was a college athlete and I've always

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Speaker 11: Dan is the next day you start over again, and

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Speaker 2: I know, you don't want to bite the hand that feeds.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think you can certainly look at where they

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Speaker 9: It's just that simple.

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Speaker 11: So you're from a pitching perspective, especially, you have to

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Speaker 11: I think they have struggled to keep up in terms

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Speaker 11: fortify their scouting department. They need more scouts out on

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Speaker 9: Well, when I started with.

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Speaker 4: So the ownership is not committed.

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Speaker 11: In that regard. It does not appear to be that way,

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Speaker 11: I will I would certainly agree with you on that.

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Speaker 11: That's the challenge that maybe this year finally pushes them

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Speaker 4: Twelve and fifty.

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Speaker 2: Do you care how bad you know, like the White

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Speaker 2: Sox historically bad, and like, if you guys are going

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Speaker 11: That's a great question, I mean, and sometimes i'd say

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Speaker 11: if we're going to have a bad season, let's make

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Speaker 11: it historic. I remember talking with Lenn Casper, who does

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Speaker 11: the White Sox. Lenny a great broadcasters season as they

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Speaker 11: were going through it, and he says, hey, you just

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Speaker 11: it is what it is, and you hope that something

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Speaker 11: changes out of it. And so I guess out of

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Speaker 11: this year, Dan, you know, you hope that it does Finally.

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Speaker 11: I don't think it'll be any kind of seismic change,

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Speaker 11: but you hope there's some kind of change to.

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Speaker 9: Not go through this again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you brought up the point I was going to

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Speaker 2: bring up. Do you reach out to fellow announcers who

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Speaker 2: have gone through this, because I can't imagine. You know,

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Speaker 2: you got to sit there, You got to sit there

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Speaker 2: and call it and it's right in front of you.

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Speaker 2: And but hey, you guys are only twenty five games

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Speaker 2: behind the Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: So it was twenty seven a week ago, Jack, that's

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Speaker 4: that's right.

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Speaker 11: We're making progress. The one thing out of that and

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Speaker 11: Lennon and I talked to Lan Casper and I talked

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Speaker 11: about that last year. The advantage with radio is you

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Speaker 11: have to be so descriptive, so you who can use that.

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Speaker 11: I think it's harder on the TV side, where you're

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Speaker 11: not doing all that basic description. The video provides that,

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Speaker 11: so you end up talking more conversationally.

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Speaker 9: That's the challenge.

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Speaker 2: I think, keep your head up, keeper sense of humor,

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Speaker 2: and I think you're going to need it. Jack here

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Speaker 2: in the second half of the season.

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Speaker 11: Well, Dan, I appreciate the chance to visit with you,

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Speaker 11: and you know, it's still a great job. Forty years

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Speaker 11: of them letting me go to the ballpark and paying

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Speaker 11: me for that.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing Okay, it's Jack Corgan.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 4: Tim McMahon he's the author of The Wonder Boy, Luka

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Speaker 4: Doncic and the Curse of Greatness, but he'll be covering

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Speaker 4: the NBA Finals Why is It, the Stanley Cup Final

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Speaker 4: and the NBA Finals Tim, Howdy.

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Speaker 9: Dan, I am not qualified for any discussion part copies,

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Speaker 9: but I'm just gonna focus purely on basketball.

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Speaker 2: And wait, this is just grammar, Tim, This isn't just

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Speaker 2: also not qualifying as a writer, You're not qualified to.

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Speaker 4: Talk about grammar.

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Speaker 9: Those are for editors.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Pacers are overwhelming underdogs, historically large underdogs.

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Speaker 4: Why, I mean, the simple.

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Speaker 9: Reason is because the Thunder are really really good. You know,

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Speaker 9: the Thunder are a team that won sixty eight games

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Speaker 9: this regular season with the best point differential in NBA history.

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Speaker 9: You know, obviously they were challenged by the Nuggets in

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Speaker 9: the second round, but other than that, they've cruised through

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Speaker 9: the playoffs. And I mean this is they've had four

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Speaker 9: thirty plus point wins during the playoffs, something that that's

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Speaker 9: never happened in a single postseason.

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Speaker 10: Rue.

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Speaker 9: I don't think it's it's a disrespect thing toward the Pacers. Obviously,

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Speaker 9: the Pacers warrant team that people expected to see in

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Speaker 9: the finals, got off to the slow start. They're four seed.

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Speaker 9: They earned their way here. But I look at the

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Speaker 9: odds more as a nod to just have dominant the

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Speaker 9: Thunder have been in any kind of knock against the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of this, though, is brand awareness

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Speaker 2: that we look at the Pacers. People didn't watch the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: People are just you know, being introduced to the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: And really the same thing for OKC. Because if I,

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Speaker 2: let's say I put the Knicks in there against OKAC,

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Speaker 2: would it be you know, would the odds to win

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Speaker 2: a championship be this large of a margin here? Would

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Speaker 2: we factor in the Knicks that somehow they're the Knicks,

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Speaker 2: they'd have a better chance than the Pacers.

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Speaker 9: I mean, honestly, I maybe only because of the way

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Speaker 9: the money works in Vegas, but I don't think the

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Speaker 9: Knicks would have had a better chance to beat the Thunder.

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Speaker 9: I mean, the best team won that series in versus

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Speaker 9: New York. That KNX defense, it's that transition defense. It

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Speaker 9: was getting just obliterated by Tyres Halibert and Pascal Siakam

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Speaker 9: was not going to stand up very well against the Thunder.

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Speaker 9: You know, sloppies nixt Row with the ball, and then

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Speaker 9: that was going to be a pretty big problem against

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Speaker 9: the Thunder. So maybe the odds would have been better

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Speaker 9: in the sense of gambling. Yeah, in the sense of

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Speaker 9: actually having a chance to win the series. I would

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Speaker 9: say absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: Tom Thibodeau was fired because.

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Speaker 9: Because he is a polarizing figure internally, there was a

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Speaker 9: pretty large faction within that front office that wanted to

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Speaker 9: get him fired a while ago and finally got its way.

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Speaker 9: You know, if you're gonna fire a coach after a

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Speaker 9: conference finals run, if you're going to fire a coach

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Speaker 9: who has made the playoffs four straight years and you know,

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Speaker 9: has had the success that the Thibodeau's had four franchise

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Speaker 9: that's gone a quarter century without sniffing any kind of

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Speaker 9: real success, you better get the next hire right. It's

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Speaker 9: an awful high bar that you're trying to clear with

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Speaker 9: your next hire here. But you know, TIB's got fired

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Speaker 9: because TIBs tends to wear people out, and he wore

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Speaker 9: out a certain amount of people who were able to

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Speaker 9: get their way.

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Speaker 4: Do you think they know who they're hiring?

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Speaker 9: I don't. I don't. I think they certainly have some

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Speaker 9: strong ideas. Whether their targets are going to be attainable

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Speaker 9: remains to be seen. But you know, this is the

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Speaker 9: kind of deal, honestly, where if you're going to fire TIBs,

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Speaker 9: it would make sense that you know, who the next

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Speaker 9: hire is, you know, a boom boom type of thing.

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Speaker 9: I certainly don't get that sense, you know, But of

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Speaker 9: course the Knicks keep you guessing, because why would you

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Speaker 9: possibly consider having a press conference after making this kind

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Speaker 9: of major franchise decision. You know, just you know, just

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Speaker 9: just hide in your little every tower and don't speak

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Speaker 9: to the unwashed media masks. Is that's the last thing

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Speaker 9: that you would want to do when you're going to

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Speaker 9: make a decision to fire a coach and awake up

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Speaker 9: a conference final drum? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Uh, and I'd gotten to win yesterday that, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: didn't know the acrimony inside, but then I was. I

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Speaker 2: was enlightened yesterday, And it's wild that you have. It's

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Speaker 2: almost like he was he was winning his way into

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Speaker 2: keeping his job. I don't would he have been fired

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Speaker 2: if they went to the NBA finals?

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Speaker 9: Who knows, But you know, it's funny that Tips makes

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Speaker 9: an adjustment during the conference finals to use Delon Wright,

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Speaker 9: to use Landyr Shaman to kind of extend the rotation,

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Speaker 9: and it works, and then it's used against him because

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Speaker 9: it was like, c you should have been playing these

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Speaker 9: guys the whole season. See, you're so stubborn, you refuse

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Speaker 9: to do what we were trying to get you to do,

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Speaker 9: and it was the right thing all along. So I

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Speaker 9: don't know if he would have been fired if they'd

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Speaker 9: have made the finals. Obviously we'll never know. I just

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Speaker 9: do know that it's not like this was out of nowhere.

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Speaker 9: There had certainly been people who were trying to get

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Speaker 9: Tids out of there for a while now, going back

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Speaker 9: before the season even started.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you give him a contract extension last July.

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Speaker 2: It's almost as if, now, Okay, this may sound crazy,

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Speaker 2: and I was told this yesterday, what if Leon Rose,

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Speaker 2: who was Tibbs' former agent who's now his boss, wanted

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Speaker 2: to take care of Tibbs, if in fact he got fired,

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Speaker 2: that you get him this contract extension, because why else

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Speaker 2: would you give him a contract extension if there's already

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Speaker 2: people in the building who do not like him and

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Speaker 2: his style.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and it is also one of those things where

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Speaker 9: you know, when a coach is going into the last

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Speaker 9: year of his contract, you either extend him or fire him.

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Speaker 9: That's just kind of the way it is THEBA. You

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Speaker 9: can't have or you can't But it's a really bad

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Speaker 9: idea to have a guy that everybody knows is a

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Speaker 9: laying duck as the head coach. But I see where

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Speaker 9: you're going with at I don't think it's a terrible

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Speaker 9: conspiracy theory. I'm listen. I don't know that this was

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Speaker 9: Leon Rose's decision. I know that publicly in the little

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Speaker 9: short statement that they sent out that he accepted the

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Speaker 9: responsibility for the decision. I think this was more a

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Speaker 9: Dolen decision. And you know, people working around Leon Rose.

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Speaker 9: I do know that Leon Rose has held off the

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Speaker 9: angry mob within the within the Knicks front office before.

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Speaker 9: But again, they can say what they want a statement.

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Speaker 9: They don't have to have a press conference, they don't

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Speaker 9: have to explain their decision. I just don't understand how

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Speaker 9: that benefits the Knicks whatsoever, to just leave people wondering

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Speaker 9: what the hell is going on.

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Speaker 2: Tim mcmahony, ESPN NBA reporter he will be there tonight

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Speaker 2: for a Sports Center. Also the book The Wonder Boy,

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Speaker 2: Luka Doncic and the Curse of Greatness. The commissioner said

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Speaker 2: yesterday on Fox Sports that he is entertaining the world

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Speaker 2: versus the ullstars from the United States. I'm wondering, you know,

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Speaker 2: we saw how important and the Olympics were too joker,

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Speaker 2: and you of course wrote the book on Luca playing

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the world as opposed to playing

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Speaker 2: for your country in the Olympics. I'm curious about the

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Speaker 2: pride you think that the team World would have against

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Speaker 2: the United States.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and this is certainly a way that they're trying

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Speaker 9: to make the All Star Game more competitive. I can

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Speaker 9: see that, But look at the All Star rosters from

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Speaker 9: last year. Is it going to be eighteen on six

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Speaker 9: or you're just going to say, hey, sorry Americans, but

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Speaker 9: there's going to be twelve international All Stars regardless of qualifications.

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Speaker 9: You get twelve stars for the Americans, twelve for the World,

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Speaker 9: and look, obviously the top end talent. You know, you

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Speaker 9: know how many straight MVPs have been won by international players.

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Speaker 9: There's no question that there are you know, a handful

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Speaker 9: of international superstars. But I think this idea is half baked.

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Speaker 9: If it's got to be even international versus World regardless

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Speaker 9: of who actually earns a trip to the All.

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Speaker 2: Star Game, well it might be half big, but I

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Speaker 2: know that the current format isn't baked at all. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't even get in the oven like well, I'm heating

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Speaker 2: up the I'm preheating here for something.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and then you get into the discussion of Okay,

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Speaker 9: are is the All Star Game to honor the best

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Speaker 9: players in the league that season or is it an

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Speaker 9: an entertainment showcase? You know, it's funny. I feel like

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Speaker 9: the NBA All Star Game is the only one that

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Speaker 9: people really whine and cry about the competitive nature. Like what,

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Speaker 9: I don't even know what they're doing in the Pro

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Speaker 9: Bowl now? Is it like flag football or something like that? Seriously,

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Speaker 9: I don't know, but nobody cares, right this idea that

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Speaker 9: is some kind of a crisis because you know, guys

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Speaker 9: aren't diving on the floor for loose balls during the

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Speaker 9: All Star Game. I don't really understand it. Then again,

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Speaker 9: I'm a guy who I cash in my air on

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Speaker 9: miles and Hotel points and taking my wife on vacation

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Speaker 9: every All Star weekends. What do I care?

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Speaker 2: Okay, But I think that if Kobe was playing, or

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Speaker 2: Mike was playing, or Larry Magic playing today, what the

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Speaker 2: All Star Game look the way the All Star Game looks.

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Speaker 9: I mean it's fair, it's a fair point. I just

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Speaker 9: think it's it gets way too much like attention and

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Speaker 9: concern about, like, there's bigger problems in the NBA than Hey,

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Speaker 9: the Alfar games, just guys like dunking the ball and

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Speaker 9: jacking up forty footers like there to me forward about

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Speaker 9: the competitive nature of the NBA, Let's start with the

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Speaker 9: fact that even though you've flattened the lottery odds and

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Speaker 9: it blew up and some teams faces that you've still

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Speaker 9: got tank a palooza down the stretch of a regular season.

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Speaker 9: I'm much more worried about the competitive nature of March

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Speaker 9: and early April basketball than I am. Some weekend in

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Speaker 9: a random city in February, I.

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Speaker 2: Was watching you guys on the podcast yesterday and the

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Speaker 2: Hoop Collective, and you guys were talking about Utah, where

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Speaker 2: Danny Ainge's son is now going to run the Utah Jazz,

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Speaker 2: And you know, he spent whatever fourteen years with the Celtics,

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Speaker 2: but he was asked about basically, are you going to tank,

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Speaker 2: you know, this upcoming season? He said, no, not this season,

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Speaker 2: as if it probably happened last season and it just

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Speaker 2: didn't work out. So he's kind of admitting, I think

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Speaker 2: they tanked last year, but we're not going to tank

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, I think it's gonna be hot in

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Speaker 9: Texas this summer. I'm gonna go ahead and admit that, Yeah,

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Speaker 9: some things are just playing his day. They absolutely tanked

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Speaker 9: last year. And what Austin names said, I don't have

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Speaker 9: the exact quote in front of me, but basically what

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Speaker 9: he said is we're not going to be manipulating minutes

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Speaker 9: to lose games this year. They're not going to be

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Speaker 9: inventing injuries. I mean, they're injured report. If you opened

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Speaker 9: it up on your phone, you had to scroll down

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Speaker 9: a few screens on a regular basis, you know, like

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Speaker 9: it was ridiculous, and they were fine for tanking, Like

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Speaker 9: they blatantly tanked, got the worst record league and ended

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Speaker 9: up in the most likely scenario, which was the fifth

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Speaker 9: overall pick, which was both the worst case to and

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Speaker 9: most likely scenario. And then you get into I know,

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Speaker 9: within that franchise there's discussions about, hey, the way we

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Speaker 9: approach this season like dank and you know, you hear

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Speaker 9: the euphemism for player development, but what they did, it's

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Speaker 9: done the growth of young players on the roster. These

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Speaker 9: guys need to be put in situations where they're playing

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Speaker 9: to win the game. If you're trying to develop, so

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Speaker 9: you're just punning on the growth of like they had

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Speaker 9: like seven guys under twenty three years old, and then

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Speaker 9: then you know, your odds aren't that much better for

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Speaker 9: the number one pick. Then if you finish sixth or

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Speaker 9: seventh or with the sixth or seventh worst record. Now

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Speaker 9: the wibber room that he left is they're not going

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Speaker 9: to do that. But let's see what their transactions look like.

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Speaker 9: You know, they just very well could have a roster

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Speaker 9: next year going into it where look, they're gonna play

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Speaker 9: as hard as they can, they're gonna try to win games,

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Speaker 9: and they're gonna end up, you know, twenty two and

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Speaker 9: sixty or whatever be pretty close to the same situation that.

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Speaker 9: My guess is it probably ends up looking something like that.

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Speaker 4: More likely the series goes four games or seven games.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I think that the the data would tell

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Speaker 9: you four games. I'm just going to say, I don't

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Speaker 9: think a Rick Carlisle team is getting swept. And you know,

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Speaker 9: Rick Carlisle has out coached a legendary coach in the

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Speaker 9: finals before a legendary young coach, right, a guy who

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Speaker 9: became a legend, Eric Spolster's Uh. You know that that

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Speaker 9: Miami Super Team's first finals, that the Dallas matteris did

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Speaker 9: not have the better team. They were playing better at

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Speaker 9: the time. But Rick Carlisle cooked up some magic during

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Speaker 9: that series, you know, and his coaching staff. But I'm

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Speaker 9: just saying, I know that Mark Dagnall expects to have

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Speaker 9: his hands full with the coaching matchup, and I think

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Speaker 9: that is the PACER's best chance to make this a

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Speaker 9: real series. And I say out of a lot with

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Speaker 9: a ton of respect for Dagenhaal, who's been a Coach

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Speaker 9: of the Year, who's done an unbelievable job at Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 9: The Carlisles as good as it gets in terms of

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Speaker 9: game the game, you know, even even half to half

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Speaker 9: in game adjustments during the playoff series.

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Speaker 4: How many Air Jordans did you pack?

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Speaker 9: Let's see, I think there are eight Jordans, Uh, some

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Speaker 9: Air Force ones, a pair of Blazers, and some good

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Speaker 9: old trusty Stance Smiths just for the other day kick runtries.

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Speaker 9: Also have some Sabrina ones. Dan, you'll appreciate this. We've

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Speaker 9: got a uh, we've got a pickup run uh here

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Speaker 9: in Okay see a Friday night pick up run and

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Speaker 9: I'm told there will be another one in Indy, so

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Speaker 9: I packed my Sabrina ones. You know, I can't wear

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Speaker 9: current NBA signature shoes, but I could certainly support the

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Speaker 9: w n B A.

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Speaker 2: And we didn't play against each other, did I don't

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Speaker 2: think you were covering the NBA when the when the

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Speaker 2: Bulls in the nineties.

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Speaker 9: No, I was playing high school basketball back then.

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Speaker 2: Oh, because we used to play pick up and uh

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Speaker 2: with the media. So I remember Jackie McMullen was on

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Speaker 2: my team and we're playing against Rick Buker.

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Speaker 9: And uh, so I have to pick up running packed

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Speaker 9: also packed some icy hots.

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Speaker 4: So who is the best media basketball player?

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Speaker 9: You're talking to him now, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 4: There's are you a joker?

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Speaker 9: Are you? It's a wide spectrum. There's the pick and

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Speaker 9: watch is certainly a big part of okay.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Where would Steven A. Smith be picked if there was

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Speaker 2: a media pickup game?

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Speaker 9: I don't know. He's welcome to show up on Friday

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Speaker 9: night and find out, though, you know, I've never I've

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Speaker 9: seen the man take some jumpers in in dress shirts,

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Speaker 9: but I've I've never seen him play.

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Speaker 4: He might not get picked. Oh yeah, he get picked

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Speaker 4: you think.

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Speaker 9: He get picked. Yeah, I'll say you as the best,

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Speaker 9: the best media guy, it's Chris haynes is in that conversation.

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Speaker 9: He played cossetball. But the thing about Haynes is his

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Speaker 9: version of a pass is a missp feeling that see

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Speaker 9: would be similar in that regard. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Uh, and Peter Vessy's too old to play anymore.

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Speaker 9: Now we've got some dudes though. I'll give a shout out.

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Speaker 9: There's a dude, Daniel Bell, who's a local radio guy

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Speaker 9: here in Okay see about six two twenty, a decade

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Speaker 9: and a half younger than me. It's he's been my

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Speaker 9: match up during the conference finals. This dude hit like

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Speaker 9: six Dirk one leers from the mid range in my row.

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Speaker 11: I listen.

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Speaker 9: I am not like I've always said, the most overrated

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Speaker 9: thing about sports is sportsmanship. And if you watch me

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Speaker 9: play old man pick up with my two inch vertical,

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Speaker 9: you can it's reflected in my performance in my in.

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Speaker 4: My uh, you know disposition, can Brian wind Horse play.

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Speaker 9: Wind Horse? I think he's gonna have a movie night

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Speaker 9: on Friday night. B Tims claims he's going to get

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Speaker 9: out there, but you know, bomb, he's one of those guys.

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Speaker 9: When a dude shows up and running shoes for the

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Speaker 9: pickup run, you know he's got no game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Tim, have fun tonight, Appreciate it. That's

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Speaker 2: a Tim McMahon