1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: And That's what you really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 3: Welcome to and That's what you Really missed podcast. She's back, bitches, 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 3: it's hot takes. 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: It's the great addition. How much to bring it back? 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: And we got the person with the most hot takes around, 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: Kelly is here. 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: Hello Telly, You're gonna love these. 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. When I heard there was a hot 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: opportunity for hot takes, he didn't ask if we were 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: reading hot takes. He said, I have plenty of hot 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: we were going to be giving hot takes. And I 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: was like, I don't know if these are gonna be 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: Do you have air? Do you want to No? No, 15 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: I mean maybe they'll come up. 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I feel like something. 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: Feel free to insert your hot takes anywhere in this episode. Okay, 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: thank you for uh for submitting you guys, never disappoint 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: with these. These are so so good. Okay, we've got 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: we've got voice notes, we've got dms, we've got comments, 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: we've got it all. Let's start with some of these 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 3: Instagram submissions, Kevin, and tell you so. 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: Here's one. Starting off hot Rachel had too many chances 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: with nada. She choked on her audition, got a second 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: chance and got in. Kurt had a flawless audition and 26 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: got a note. She also got a second chance during 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 2: the Midwinter critique. Yeah, I think there's a this has this, 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: this has got some legs. Yeah, I think, Yeah, Rachel definitely, 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 2: but I think that that speaks to her persistence. Yes, 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: you got to have some struggles in there too. She 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: had just gotten in on the first time. How much 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: you know, how long lo can that story go for? No? 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: I know, I just read a crazy one. Okay, read it. 34 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: Rachel should have ended up with Puck. Whoaw one thing, 35 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: Glee Lak was true. It was a true love triangle. 36 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: It was all always clear who 'd it up with 37 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: who A. Rachel Finn Puck love triangle would have been 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: the next Lilah Jason tim for a night Lights. Instead, 39 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: they just continually gave Puck lackluster storylines. If Rachel couldn't 40 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: end up with Finn, it should have been Puck. Finn 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: hated Jesse and it always felt dishonorable that she ended 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: up with him. 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: WHOA. 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: I recall there was like a little bit of a 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: Puck Rachel thing early on and I think that, you know, 46 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: the pace of Glee is not for sustaining these things 47 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: over many, many, many episodes. Yeah, so I think like 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: we dipped our toe in there. I think that I 49 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 2: think that for me, it made a lot of sense 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: that Puck and Quinn get together in the end. So 51 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily agree that Rachel should have been with Puck, 52 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: but I do agree with the jesse For me, wasn't 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: exactly the jesse for me didn't feel earned. It didn't 54 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: feel like maybe the right person for Rachel to end 55 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: up with. Yeah, but I don't think it should have been. 56 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: Puck agreed. 57 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: But that's a take. 58 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: This is a hot take. 59 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: The second half of season five is the worst part 60 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: of Glee. 61 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: It seems appropriate now all that seems irritated. 62 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: Jenna, speak on it, speak on it. 63 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: I'm shocked because the it feels like the majority was 64 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: telling us this whole back half of five and season 65 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: six is so good. Now this person did say the 66 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: season six is really good, but they are taking down 67 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: my spin off, and I have to say I am 68 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: upset about it because I think it is some of 69 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: the best Glee that we have aside from our early years. 70 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: It's grounded, it's focused, it's clear, it's I I'm just 71 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: I'm here for it. I don't know what's missing from 72 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: it that you could say that, like, I don't know. 73 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Clearly this has to be a McKinley stand you know this, Yeah, 74 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: who needs to be in the hallways of McKinley. 75 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Because there's a hot take. 76 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: So again we have to say, like, we're not judging 77 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: you in these things. 78 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: They are hot takes. But I'm up sad about that 79 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: because I love. 80 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this seems to me like someone who isn't who 81 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: doesn't like totally I said, we weren't judging, We're not. 82 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: That's just how I feel. Lamb should have been endgame, 83 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah, it's not even that. That was 84 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: everyone was thinking it. And also somebody was saying another 85 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: hot take was if that Sam should have ended up 86 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: with Rachel. 87 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 88 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody said that uh bleeding and Queinn should have 89 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: had a storyline together in a friendship. They seem to 90 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 3: live parallel lies. Both come from seemingly wealthy upbringings. They 91 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: both have older siblings. They feel like they have to 92 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: live up to Francine and Cooper. They both have daddy issues, 93 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: and they were both bullying in their old school you 94 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 3: can see, of course. Uh, and they had to transfer. Yeah, 95 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: there's so much detail of this head candidate I have, 96 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: but I don't have enough time to love y'all. 97 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, they never really intersect. 98 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: No, and that can't be by design, you know. I 99 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: think that's just how how the cards fell. 100 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: But totally well, Diana was also like on her way 101 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: out at that, like Quinn was on her way out 102 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: as Blaine was really coming up in the show. 103 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: So like they're the timing was just I think off. 104 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: And I think sometimes when you have characters that are 105 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: similar or maybe have similar tracks, it's hard to find 106 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: a common ground or something that's maybe interesting or new 107 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: or fresh about their dynamic when they're if they're both 108 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: maybe serving a similar purpose or scratching the same itch 109 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: story wise, So who knows, Maybe it just wouldn't have 110 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: had legs, But definitely, I mean, with so many characters, 111 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: there's so many combos of missed opportunities throughout the years. 112 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: So but Blaine and Quinn definitely feels like a bit 113 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: of a blind spot. Yes, speaking of Quinn, someone said 114 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: Jesse Jesse Saint James and Quinn could have been a 115 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: solid couple. I I think that I can see that, 116 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: I see that I kind of like that. 117 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: I don't think they match. I don't think I just 118 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: see it. I don't think. I don't think I like that. 119 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't like it. 120 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: Best duet and I think this is a pretty hot 121 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: take is I just can't stop loving you? From the 122 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: oh to saying not very iconic. 123 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: It's like hello is there? 124 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 2: But like maybe we should give it another listen. I 125 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: always loved singing Uh, don't go breaking. That was my favorite. 126 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 3: Was a good one. 127 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: No Air, Oh, no Air is so good. 128 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: Yes, it's still one of my favorites. 129 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: Hot take, the show should have been about Santana, not Rachel. 130 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: I think Variety would agree with you. 131 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: Okay, hot take funt Ofmies to New Directions is the 132 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: best run of episodes since season three thanks to. 133 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: Leah and nayat. 134 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: Take definitely make a case for that. I think that 135 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: that was one of those fun unexpected maybe not unexpected, 136 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: but definitely like seeing that get to play out in 137 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: a real world like scenario of New York and that 138 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: like see them really try to like I don't know, 139 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: there was so much tension there right because it's like 140 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: you have these relationships with people that you've known for 141 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: so long, like you like you love each other and 142 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: there's like a draw to one another, but they're also, 143 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: like you just butt heads constantly, so it's like it's 144 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: it was nice. It was fun to see that play out, 145 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: and I think that really added a lot of life 146 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: to Lee as you left. McKinley agreed, pink haired Quin 147 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: should have lasted longer. 148 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh hell yeah, should have lived for Quinn. 149 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: Hot take Jacked Little Tapestry season six is one of 150 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: the best episodes of the series. Okay, I remember that market. 151 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to look out for that. That's a 152 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: weird episode of those two albums. 153 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: Sebastian would have never been okay to help Blaine propose 154 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: to Kirk. 155 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: Mmmm, well, hey, people change, That's right, People change, people grow. 156 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 2: Mercedes Jones is truly the only heterosexual member of New Directions. 157 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: You know what, Okay, Okay, that's canon. 158 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: It's pretty heterosexual. 159 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. 160 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: I said it to see how it. 161 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: Season one. Tina definitely not. 162 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: I've seen this one a few of out there in 163 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: the world Santana's Don't Rain on My Parade is better 164 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: than Rachel's. I think that's one of the like that's 165 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: emerged is one of those like these classic sort of 166 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: like Glee debates. 167 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: I think there's like they're just so different. How do 168 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: you even compare? 169 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think it's better. Yeah, I don't. 170 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: There's a hot take. 171 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: No, I agree with you. I don't think it's better. 172 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: There's a lot of NIA songs that like are just 173 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: the best of the best, But like this one, I 174 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: think ran on My Parade is just meant to be 175 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 3: the way it was doctor by Rachel. 176 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: I think that too, is like it's fun because that, uh, 177 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: that is like a character thing, right, It's like that 178 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: is how this person? Yeah would it is incredible, Right, 179 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: it's like the version spot on for her. But it's like, 180 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: that's not that's not it. That's not what you do 181 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 2: in a in a Broadway house take. 182 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: Tina should have been the catalyst and the leader of 183 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: the travel tons. 184 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 185 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it would have made so much sense. 186 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: It would have made a lot of sense her defecting 187 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: like that. The Thong song and blurred lines are bangers. 188 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: That's a rotten take. 189 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm judging that one. 190 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, season six is better than season one because 191 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: Kurt has a love story and not a one sided crush, 192 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: and Rachel is in her best version better than season one. 193 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: Hot take mm hmm. 194 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: Season five Christmas episode is the best one of them all. 195 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: Which one was that? Was that the Glee actually one? 196 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: Oh, this is previously on aired? 197 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: Oh? Right, right right? That one was? So? Is that 198 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 2: the one where hot take baby Jesus? 199 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, love love child? Yes? 200 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: Yes? Oh are you ready for the hottest take? Oh? 201 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: Okay? 202 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 2: And I just want to This is not us saying it. 203 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: Somebody wrote this in and they said, I'm scared to 204 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: say this out loud, and they're not. I'm started for 205 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: you to say this out loud. This person said, I'm 206 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: not the biggest Britanna fan. That's about as hot as 207 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: a take can get on Glee and the Glee forums 208 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: of the internet. I think, Wow, I'm just gonna leave that. 209 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: There, drag, don't don't reveal who that said that. We'll 210 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: come for that. 211 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, five B is good if it wasn't called Glee. Interesting. 212 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: Glee kind of dropped the ball with how it portrayed 213 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: and utilized female friendships. That's kind of a serious hot take. 214 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's deep. 215 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Beth is the most underrated performance done by the 216 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: guys of need. 217 00:11:45,360 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: Oh, I you know this, this isace. Wow, that's that's great. 218 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. 219 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: That's not a hot take. That was just the truth. 220 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: He was a bad boyfriend. This is a hot take. 221 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: My favorite character for years was Korofski. When you don't 222 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 2: hear that a lot. There's not a lot of love 223 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: for Karowski out there. 224 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: But that's good. That's really good. He's I mean that 225 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: whole episode. He was so good. 226 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: And when they did coughs euroupe Lucy KABOOSI was the 227 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: most stupid story ever. 228 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: Queen had enough vulnerability. I'll I love Lucy kab. 229 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: I wonder if that's I wonder if in that this 230 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: today's world, if that would have happened, if we would 231 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: have needed something like, you know, a secret, you know, 232 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: ugly or whatever past of hers, if that, if that's 233 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: what we needed for her to have vulnerability. I feel 234 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: like maybe that's maybe it could have been a little 235 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: more nuanced. 236 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: I still loved it. 237 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: Lane should have been written as by on the show. Okay, 238 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: I see that they did. They did have that moment 239 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: where he thought he might be by right, he dated Rachel. 240 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: But I think that, you know, I think, yeah, I 241 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 2: think there's a little bit. I think the dialogue in 242 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: the world about bisexuality has changed a lot, and I 243 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 2: think that like it's come. I think it's I think again, 244 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: we're seeing like the nuance of that a little bit 245 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: more so. I think that, you know, we have Brittany 246 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: obviously representing for the Bees, but I think, yeah, we 247 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: could have explored that a little bit more. That's a 248 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: hot take. Say it tell. I don't want to say that. One. 249 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: Someone said, I don't like Finchel. Are they watching the 250 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: same show? Sorry, no judgment, no judgment. 251 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 3: Sorry I forgot Somebody said Tinico and Crazy you should 252 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: have got more. 253 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, hot take. That's the truth. 254 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: There's a This is a hot take. Season five, episode 255 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: nineteen is not spoken about enough. The songs are incredible 256 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: and a beautiful storyline in that episode is Old Dog 257 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: New Tricks. 258 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: Oh, that's Czy is episode. 259 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: That's the episode episode. That's right, that's right, so we 260 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: will remember that. 261 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was with the Peter Pan production at the 262 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 2: Old Folks Home. 263 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. 264 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: June Burley McLain wasn't June and Squim. We had like 265 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: Tim Conway. 266 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: Yeah that's right, Billy Billy, Lady Williams, Billy Williams. 267 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, Glee got the stars. The stars 268 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: came out for Glee. It was wild back then, got 269 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: back in my day. I mean, Carol Burnette, that's true. 270 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: Icons Sugar and Lartie was one of the best chips 271 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: on the show. I know, that's right. Oh, there you go. 272 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: Jesse's Girl. Jesse's Girl. Glee version is better than the original. 273 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 274 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: As amazing as the trouble Tones were, I was still 275 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: rooting for them to lose. I like that. That's a 276 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: good take. Yeah, that is a good take. 277 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 4: It was. 278 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: The trouble Zones were so enjoyable. But you know, you've 279 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: got to always you gotta go back to your new directions. 280 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: That's your home team. 281 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: Mister Shee should not have been as close to those 282 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: high school kids. 283 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah do we know this, We know that. Yeah, Barry 284 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: is real. You guys are wild. Here you go, Jenna, 285 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: here's someone that's aligned with you. The New York scenes 286 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: of Lee should have been a spin off. So that 287 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I think that could have really had legs. 288 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: I think that like you got you got a lot 289 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: of the characters, and. 290 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: You keep a home base and you keep that kind. 291 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: Of like they can always go back to, like there's 292 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: always like moments for that. 293 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you. 294 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: Could have done but like if you could have done it, 295 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: if I could have done it all over it, there 296 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: could There's somebody to be said about like making McKinley 297 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: moore of a revolving door of characters and. 298 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: Then like like have these guys like. 299 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: And so there. Yeah, I think there's something to be 300 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: said about that, because you know, some spinoffs outlive the originals. 301 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: Frazier MCIs is a spinoff. I just learned twenty seasons 302 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: spin off of Jaggon. 303 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: Oh, quinnin Artie would have been a great couple. 304 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: The chemistry was there post accident. 305 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: Should we listen to some of the voice notes? 306 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: Oh yes, definitely, definitely. 307 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: Okay. My hot take is that Rachel Berry is one 308 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: of the most complex and most well written characters in 309 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 4: almost all of TV history. I think she's severely misunderstood. 310 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 4: I think that the hate that she gets from the 311 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 4: fandom is undeserved as well, because I just don't think 312 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: that people understand that she has her goals and she 313 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 4: had her moments, but that's because she was just so 314 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: ambitious and she is one of my favorite characters. And 315 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 4: I think people need to love more on Rachel. 316 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: I agree with that. Yeah, I agree. 317 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: I totally agreet. 318 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: Do people not like Rachel? I think there's a camp 319 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: out there that. 320 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 3: May Yeah, yeah, I think there's definitely a group of 321 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: a camp. 322 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: What it was because of how Rachel was, like you 323 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: needed that, Like, yeah, the blind ambition can come off 324 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: as all kinds of negative things, sure, but she's surrounded 325 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: by a good group of people. We all keep each 326 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: other in check. Like, she does grow, she does learn things, 327 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: She goes through a lot. 328 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: Oftentimes she will take accountability for some of the things 329 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: she does. Do you know what I mean? 330 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: It's like there's always like a deep, ambitious intention behind 331 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 3: what she's doing, and sometimes she's willing to. 332 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: There's some misunderstanding about who she is, and I think 333 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: it's you know, it's a dress too. Through various characters, 334 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 2: I think a lot of Santana's obviously to boil for her, 335 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 2: but you know, like her, Yeah, her unlike if the 336 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: reason she is unlikable is is not just because she's 337 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 2: an annoying rat. It's like it's because she's like a 338 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: really an uncontrollable drive. I get it. I think you know, 339 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: you send someone to a crack house and people think 340 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: you're awful? 341 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: Right to be fair? 342 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: Well, let's do one more voice note. 343 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 5: Hi Jenna and Kevin. First off, you two are incredible. 344 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 5: Thank you for bringing so much joy with this podcast. 345 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 5: It is truly the best. Okay, my hot take. The 346 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 5: Glee fandom ruined Clan and the writers let it happen 347 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 5: hear me out curtain. Blaine's individual arcs as well as 348 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 5: their relationship were beautifully written until they got together, but 349 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 5: then the intense excitement of the fandom, combined with an 350 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 5: unprecedented level of audience engagement, led the writers to cater 351 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 5: too much to fan demands at the expense of both 352 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 5: the characters and the actors. As a diehard clean fan, 353 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 5: I remember feeling that shift as a series went on. 354 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 5: It felt like the writers were under pressure to keep 355 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 5: the cash cow going rather than staying true to organic storytelling. 356 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 5: Love Clean Forever. But yeah, that's my hot take. 357 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: Wow, I got chills. First of all, thank you, thank 358 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: you for enjoying the podcast. Yes. Second of all, Kelly, 359 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 2: you know, I think that in my I in my 360 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 2: like memory and my the way I look back at 361 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: Glee in that time, it's like Glee to me is 362 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: so so entwined with Twitter and social media. They really 363 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: like started at the same time and grew at the 364 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: same time and grew together. And and you know, I 365 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: think that there is some validity to the fact that 366 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 2: the creators of the show and the writers of the 367 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 2: show looked to the fandom a for where to go 368 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: and what to do, as well as to the cast 369 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: and to But so I think there's some validity to 370 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: that in general to say that maybe sometimes that shouldn't 371 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: have been factored in, But again, I think it was 372 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: so they're just so and there was just so many 373 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: we'd also didn't have the experience of how to like 374 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: disengage in social media that we do now because it's 375 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: happening at the same time. So it was exciting and 376 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: new to be able to, I think, interact in that 377 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: way because you could write something into the show and 378 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 2: then get an immediate feedback from it three weeks later online. 379 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: And also whereas before it's kind of like ratings were 380 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: the only this is when reviews it would happen once 381 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: in a while. Yeah, and this is where like the 382 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: shift in the industry started happening. I think it was 383 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 2: kind of even the beginning of like streaming in a 384 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: way because well, at least what's Kevin saying. It's like 385 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: before it was like you could only get the ratings 386 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: and whatever reviews that came out at the beginning of 387 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 2: the season. That's really the only way you had to 388 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: gauge it, and like whatever letters into the studio. But 389 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: it was like the feedback started getting so fast. Yes, 390 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: it was sort of it was sort of like it 391 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: seems silly to ignore that right to not like tap 392 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: into that and say, what do these people want to say? 393 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: Because I think having that now on a silver platter 394 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 2: was like, how could you not dig in, you know, 395 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: as the creators of this big juggernaut of a show. 396 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: So you know, I think well done to whoever that 397 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: was that sent it in, because that was a very 398 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: very well articulated argument. Yeah, and I think, yeah, I 399 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 2: think that they that definitely is a relationship that I 400 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: think fan service was a big factor in. Absolutely. 401 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: I mean Bride has said that before. 402 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, hot take season six newbies seem so much 403 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: more interesting and complex than the Season four newbies. 404 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: I would have loved a full season with them. 405 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: I'm now excited to watch season six. I know Season 406 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: six probably has a real fresh that we didn't realize 407 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: at the time. Maybe you're tired well and you know, 408 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 2: old and jaded and bitter. I think also it's hard 409 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: when you're like, I take a lot of I didn't 410 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: love the like the way the graduation was handled, the 411 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: staggered graduation thing, and like keeping someone and getting something new, 412 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: and like, you know, because and I feel like a 413 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 2: lot of the Season four newbies were like almost like 414 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: carbon copies of the characters that had left. They grew 415 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 2: into their own things, but they did start off. They 416 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: started as like kind of the broad Strokes replacements. And 417 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: so it's hard when you also still have those characters 418 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: on the showy f filling their own needs. It's kind 419 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 2: of hard to feel like these newbies are are bringing 420 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: something to the table. Whereas with season six, we have 421 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: like a whole new cast of newbies that had new archetypes. 422 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 2: It was new gold, and our characters were in different 423 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: positions right also still, yeah, they were in positions of 424 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: authority rather than like still on their own path of 425 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: you know. 426 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: What, Like, yeah, exactly, that's a good point. 427 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 2: I can see why. I think, Yeah, those those season 428 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: six mobies shine a little bit brighter, I. 429 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: Think, shine right like a diamond. 430 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: Thank you for writing in the pot takes. 431 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: This is we could do these a thousand times over 432 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: and we will. We're when you continue to do these heat, I. 433 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: Want to hear it. I love that Glee, the legacy 434 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: of Glee is like that people are still so so 435 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: impassioned about about the show and that. 436 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: Their opinion, why we do this. 437 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: It's just like it's so amazing to be a part 438 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: of it. And yeah, it's like it always rings true 439 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: for me. It's like being a part of something special, 440 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: it makes you special, and that's what Glee is for me. 441 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 2: And like, I love that the uh, the audience still 442 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: feels that way as well. 443 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Telly, and. 444 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: That's what Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram 445 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: and that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to 446 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: write us a review and leave us five stars. See 447 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: you next time.