Speaker 1: What's up, guys, and welcome to another episode of Bachelor
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. I am so excited today because I have
Speaker 1: a great co host, one of my Bachelor Nation favorites.
Speaker 1: You guys don't know this because you don't really see
Speaker 1: us hanging out together. But we've we've been around each
Speaker 1: other a bit, so I'm not gonna let you wait
Speaker 1: any longer. Sitting with me in the hot seat, not
Speaker 1: really in the hot seat because he's co hosting today.
Speaker 1: But I've got Joe A Moubley also known as grocery
Speaker 1: store Joe or Joe the grocer. Is that what they
Speaker 1: say Joe the grocer, Joe the grocer, grocery store Joe
Speaker 1: asshole Southern? Now you can actually added that out too, Please, No,
Speaker 1: keep it because I like it. They don't know this
Speaker 1: side of the grocery store. No. Yeah, so you send
Speaker 1: my last name wonderful? Oh yes, Joe A Mobley is
Speaker 1: how you say a mobley for those who don't know.
Speaker 1: Now you know it's a Mobley. I have to ask
Speaker 1: to tell you. They say it really well in Italy
Speaker 1: only been there wants and I can't speak the language
Speaker 1: off the top. Do you like the name grocery store Joe. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing wrong with it. It doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1: It's when I was on tour for Dancing with the
Speaker 1: Stars and we did meet and greets, people would walk
Speaker 1: up and be like, oh, you're you're grocery right, Like
Speaker 1: I have a name, Okay, it's Joe or Joey or Joseph.
Speaker 1: But I don't mind that. I mean, it's fine, but
Speaker 1: people don't call me that. It's not like you're not
Speaker 1: gonna have a conversation with me and be like, grocery
Speaker 1: store Joe can grab a water out of the fridge.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it bothered you when like
Speaker 1: people run up to you and they're like, oh, my gosh,
Speaker 1: it's grocery store Joe, or because like Joe's a common name,
Speaker 1: so it's like which Joe, grocery store Joe. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me. I like give me, I like attention.
Speaker 1: So I like when people run up to me and
Speaker 1: want to take pictures and stuff, do you really yeah?
Speaker 1: Of course who doesn't. It makes you feel great? Ye?
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a girl problem because for me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, are my eyebrows done? Or my lash is done,
Speaker 1: hair together. All of those are not together as we speak.
Speaker 1: I just want to put that out there. Good. There's
Speaker 1: no camera in here. But no for women, were like, wait,
Speaker 1: we need angles, we need the camera for like for
Speaker 1: you guys, it's totally different. Yeah. No. I For me,
Speaker 1: I go to all the like tourists spots on purpose,
Speaker 1: and I just like, line up, let's go. Who wants
Speaker 1: to take a picture with me? I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: learning a whole new Joe right now. That's hilarious. So
Speaker 1: where do you go? Where the people behind you? Um?
Speaker 1: Anywhere I'm at the girl? No, I'm joking. I mean,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't bother me. It really doesn't. People come
Speaker 1: people asking for pictures or just want to say what's
Speaker 1: up or talk? Bring it on. What's the weirdest thing
Speaker 1: somebody's ever said to you? Have they come up to
Speaker 1: you and like brought you like an apple, like some
Speaker 1: grocery Well, I mean that one would be that strange though.
Speaker 1: Somebody somebody just came with an apple you signed? Was
Speaker 1: for me? People do that? They ask you to sign
Speaker 1: their groceries. No, because they should. They should. I used
Speaker 1: to be a trader and I used to I was
Speaker 1: a trader to Chicago board a trade and I was
Speaker 1: in the grocery business, so everyone thought I was Trader Joe.
Speaker 1: So I actually DM Trader Joe's I'm like, what's up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys want to pay me? Yeah, as
Speaker 1: you should. They never respond it. Take advantage of that.
Speaker 1: Try again. They never responded to me. I'm really upset
Speaker 1: about that. But maybe we'll get them as a sponsor
Speaker 1: on this podcast and then you know, maybe it could
Speaker 1: be your voice. Yeah, it'd be great, that'd be great.
Speaker 1: But what what did you ask me before I went
Speaker 1: on that little tangent of Trader Joes. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I felt like I wanted to answer it. Oh oh no,
Speaker 1: signing groceries. No, we're else where we what were we
Speaker 1: talking about? You know why I love that you lost
Speaker 1: your thought and you went on a tangent because a
Speaker 1: lot of people when they saw you on the screen,
Speaker 1: they felt like you didn't have a lot to say,
Speaker 1: or you didn't really talk that much. But I think
Speaker 1: i've heard you and Kendall say, or maybe it was
Speaker 1: and Will say interviews that once you start talking, you
Speaker 1: don't stop. Case some point on the podcast, well, I
Speaker 1: mean here's the thing, though, I was only on screen,
Speaker 1: like people, I was on the show for a day,
Speaker 1: you know I was. I was on Bachelor for a day, Yes,
Speaker 1: and I was only aired for what a minute? In
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds max, So that's all people saw. And then
Speaker 1: when I did an interview with Chris Harrison, he said,
Speaker 1: you don't talk much because I was nervous, and I
Speaker 1: didn't really have much to say because I wasn't on
Speaker 1: the goddamn show. So what happened? What happened the first night?
Speaker 1: Because obviously we now know you're a fan favorite. You've
Speaker 1: gone on to do great things, honestly, signing grocery bags. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you're like the example of what all first sniders should achieve. Seriously,
Speaker 1: it's probably never going to happen again, but you use
Speaker 1: with whom a few of the night winners got on Paradise,
Speaker 1: Oh Paradise, but still nobody has reached the leve of
Speaker 1: fame after the first night, and they never will, they
Speaker 1: truly never will. It will never happen again. But what
Speaker 1: happened that first night? Okay? You why why did you
Speaker 1: go home? Because people just seem to love you. I
Speaker 1: don't get it, um, that's that's a fair question, and
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to answering it right now. I
Speaker 1: okay for starters, my hair was too short. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: do you think that's that's what I'm telling you. Well,
Speaker 1: it was I went crazy with with a fade and
Speaker 1: it wasn't even however, styled my hair anyways, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I was thinking. Second of all, it's a
Speaker 1: long night, so I ended up I was by the
Speaker 1: end of the night. I was pale. I was tired,
Speaker 1: so I didn't really feel or look my best, you know.
Speaker 1: My suit was I had a tom Ford suit. I
Speaker 1: went and got a tom Fortune Wow. Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna be on TV, I might as
Speaker 1: well do it right the first can't afford it on
Speaker 1: four suit there h and m tom for it all
Speaker 1: the way. So I get there and everyone was kind
Speaker 1: of like, what are you doing on this show? Like
Speaker 1: you don't seem like like why are you here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like kind of like what are you doing? And I'm like, honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it just I was approach at
Speaker 1: a grocery store that wasn't my grocery store. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: is that okay? So I guess I start from the beginning.
Speaker 1: This is fun, all right. So I'm you know, it's October,
Speaker 1: it's a regular day, you know, it's fall in Chicago.
Speaker 1: I'm going grocery store shopping, grocery store shopping. I'm buying
Speaker 1: some almond butter or whatever I'm doing. And I'm leaving.
Speaker 1: A lady walks up to me. She's like, hey, are
Speaker 1: you single. I'm like, you know, I just and I
Speaker 1: just got a normal haircut and I was feeling good.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm like, what's up. She's like, would
Speaker 1: you be interested in going on the Bachelor? And she
Speaker 1: hands me a card that says the Bachelor. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I guess I wouldn't be the Bachelor. Sure, Just let
Speaker 1: me just skip all this thing. I didn't know I
Speaker 1: swore in my life. I didn't know at the time.
Speaker 1: I don't have Instagram, I don't have anything. I'm just,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of doing my thing in Chicago.
Speaker 1: I have my place, I have my friends, I'm single,
Speaker 1: I'm going out, just you know, living life. She's like,
Speaker 1: send me an email. So she's like, could you send
Speaker 1: like ten pictures? And I have I text some of
Speaker 1: my friends to send me photos they have in me.
Speaker 1: I come up with eight eight pictures and I send
Speaker 1: them an email. Next thing I know, they fly out
Speaker 1: to Chicago. I get cast in. So now I'm out there.
Speaker 1: All the producers are cool. Everybody seems to like me.
Speaker 1: I like all them. I'm like, this is this is cool,
Speaker 1: but like, hey, I'm not gonna fall in love on
Speaker 1: this show. Yes, we all that's how you should be
Speaker 1: open to whatever. Yeah, I'm open. Like if I fall
Speaker 1: in love, great, isn't going to happen. I highly doubt it.
Speaker 1: I would bet against it. Um, So everything's cool. I
Speaker 1: get to the to the hotel that they're sequestering and
Speaker 1: sequestering a word sequestering, you know, my word of the
Speaker 1: day sequester So they have us as in the hotel
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, great, you know everything's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: We go out there. I Eddie's in my limb, always
Speaker 1: talking to me. It's like, you're good. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm good, but I'm not. Now I'm freaking out. I'm
Speaker 1: freaking I feel it. I'm like, this is horrible. I stepped.
Speaker 1: He's like, whatever you do, don't talk when you get
Speaker 1: out of the limo, say hello, say your name, but
Speaker 1: do it in her face. I opened the limo door.
Speaker 1: I start rambling, like you start Italian from Chicago, it's
Speaker 1: about time, yeada, YadA, YadA. I walk up to her.
Speaker 1: I talk for like two minutes. Then I say, I
Speaker 1: forget everything I was gonna say, and she's like, what
Speaker 1: you just were talking for two minutes? And then I said,
Speaker 1: I said nice to meet you. Oh fuck, and they
Speaker 1: actually played it. They bleeped it out and I walked inside.
Speaker 1: Now I get inside and I'm looking at these guys
Speaker 1: and they're talking and everyone's kind of like I feel
Speaker 1: so bad for Becca, you know, her heart and what
Speaker 1: already did, and for me, I'm like this that doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. I'm like, she's the lead right now,
Speaker 1: this is great. Did you know the backstory? Though? I
Speaker 1: know you never watched the show, but did you know
Speaker 1: what happened to her? I knew what happened, but the
Speaker 1: way I looked at it was like, she's obviously over it.
Speaker 1: She's the bachelor, she's winning that, yeah, or she's the
Speaker 1: bachel threat. So like this is great for her. So
Speaker 1: I'm like okay, and I just I was uncomfortable, so
Speaker 1: I couldn't really have any conversations. I wasn't comfortable speaking
Speaker 1: on camera. UM, so I just kind of just I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm just gonna go to the bar.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a bear, and I'm gonna just kind
Speaker 1: of do my own thing. I had the second talk
Speaker 1: with her. Oh, he did have a talk with her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one really really bad. What did you talk about? I
Speaker 1: was really nervous, and I asked her. I'm like, the
Speaker 1: first thing that comes out of my stupid mouth is
Speaker 1: what's your pet? Peeve? It was like my grandma when
Speaker 1: I asked that question, what's your pet? Peeve? How I
Speaker 1: thought it? And She's like, I don't know what yours?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, ah, you know when I'm I said,
Speaker 1: when I'm blading and this isn't even my pet, Peeve,
Speaker 1: I said, when I'm waiting for my luggage at the
Speaker 1: airport and somebody stands in front of me. It was
Speaker 1: just silent. It was literally silent. I'm like, this couldn't
Speaker 1: be going any worse. I would have laughed if I
Speaker 1: was at that's right, you said that to me. I
Speaker 1: just yeah, it's I would have known you were nervous,
Speaker 1: and I would have been like, okay, just take a beat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it would have been better if I my hair
Speaker 1: was a little longer. So that was that was the
Speaker 1: final show. Yeah, that was She's like this kid, this
Speaker 1: guy is a weirdo and he's got a bad haircut.
Speaker 1: He's gone. So then yes, and then I got you know,
Speaker 1: it's eight in the morning, I don't get a rose
Speaker 1: on and I remember standing up there, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I'm one of these guys because I remember
Speaker 1: like seeing the show when I was a kid and
Speaker 1: like being like home to get eliminated that first night,
Speaker 1: nothing could be worse than that, and nothing was. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was horrible, you know it was. It was like
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm I'm this guy right now, Like
Speaker 1: I have to go back to Chicago and tell my
Speaker 1: friends I came out on this reality show to find
Speaker 1: love and get eliminated the first night. Explain that to people,
Speaker 1: because I think everybody everybody looks at it as I know,
Speaker 1: you're all like, I don't want to be the one
Speaker 1: to go home that night. But explain, because there's so
Speaker 1: much that goes into getting ready for the first night.
Speaker 1: Then to go home that night, like explain kind of
Speaker 1: like the I don't know how much we can get
Speaker 1: into the process, but I guess the process. So you
Speaker 1: don't get a rose, then what you have to pack
Speaker 1: for two and a half months. Yeah, and this the
Speaker 1: process has been going on for three or four months.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to I was reluctant to do it
Speaker 1: from the beginning. And then once you kind of like
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I'm gonna do this, then you're like
Speaker 1: your whole heart's in it. You're like, I'm doing this.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm going on TV and basically exposing myself.
Speaker 1: Like here we go. You know. So it's it is
Speaker 1: on regardless of what anyone says. Once you're once you
Speaker 1: like go through casting and you feel like you're gonna
Speaker 1: get it. It's on your mind every day. You're waking
Speaker 1: up like I'm about to go on TV and do
Speaker 1: this shit. So it's a lot and then you you know,
Speaker 1: you try to look your best, you try to sound
Speaker 1: your best. You know, you're like I don't want to
Speaker 1: go home the first night because it's just a now
Speaker 1: I'm here, I want to do this. I want to
Speaker 1: see what actually could happen, and it's just embarrassing, like
Speaker 1: to get to go home the first night basically, I
Speaker 1: mean like it's like, wow, this even though it's not
Speaker 1: that bad if you really think about it. I mean,
Speaker 1: thousands of people go through casting, you made the final cut.
Speaker 1: It's really not that bad silver lining, but it does.
Speaker 1: It feels it's just like, oh, I can't believe this
Speaker 1: is it because when you I know, we're not supposed
Speaker 1: to tell anybody, but obviously you tell your family that
Speaker 1: you're leaving, you can tell close friends, and so then
Speaker 1: you get kicked off and you're like I have to
Speaker 1: go back and tell them that I went home the
Speaker 1: first night. Yeah. Yeah. And I was also like I
Speaker 1: was out of my group of friends. I was the
Speaker 1: guy that was always out. I was the guy, the
Speaker 1: single guy. I was the one that always had fun,
Speaker 1: Like I was just kind of always out there doing
Speaker 1: my thing. And now I'm like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: now I feel like I just feel like such a readjack,
Speaker 1: Like this is horrible. But my flight to two pm,
Speaker 1: and I want to get out of here sooner, so
Speaker 1: I need you guys to switch my flight to ten
Speaker 1: thirty am because it's Patrick's day in Chicago and I'm
Speaker 1: going home, going out and getting wasted. You know who
Speaker 1: has the second best? Saint Patrick's Day Dallas, Texas. Really Yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't been. I gotta try it. I will. So
Speaker 1: I go to Chicago. I wake up, I got all
Speaker 1: my suitcases out, and I'm like, Saint Patrick's Day. I
Speaker 1: call my friend. It's like nine thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1: You're like, meet me at the bar. And I kind
Speaker 1: of like, you know what. I laughed about it, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I did it? So who cares?
Speaker 1: So then, which is the best way to recover? Yeah,
Speaker 1: from from getting kicked off to the show. And nobody knows, right,
Speaker 1: nobody knows what your close family in France. So then
Speaker 1: I walked into and not to cut you off, I
Speaker 1: walked into a bar on Saint Patrick's Day. There was
Speaker 1: a line around the block of Chicago is crazy. I
Speaker 1: walked up to the girl. I said, listen, I was
Speaker 1: just on the bedroom I kicked off the first night.
Speaker 1: Let me in the fucking bar over the opened it
Speaker 1: up like beautiful, See you were meant to do this.
Speaker 1: And you know what else, I'm big on signs and
Speaker 1: you're like I was at a grocery store. When you
Speaker 1: were you were at a grocer store, when your approach
Speaker 1: not your a grocery store, hopefully Yeah, And she asked me,
Speaker 1: she goes, she goes, what do you do? I said,
Speaker 1: I own a grocery store. She goes this one. I said,
Speaker 1: if I owned this one, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're in a grocery store. You get approach,
Speaker 1: you own a grocery store, you get this whole grocery
Speaker 1: store Joe title. So what a couple of months passes?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the timeline, if even that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: about a couple of months, two and a half months,
Speaker 1: first night airs, you go home, Then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden everything changes for you. Right, did you expect America
Speaker 1: to fall in love with you the way that they did? Oh?
Speaker 1: God no? And why do you why do you think?
Speaker 1: Because you said you were on TV for what a
Speaker 1: minute and fifteen seconds? You already talked about your appearance
Speaker 1: with the haircut, But for some reason America chose you
Speaker 1: to fall in love with and to basically riot about,
Speaker 1: like how could grocery store Joe go home? What do
Speaker 1: you think it was? There was a few factors had
Speaker 1: to your horn. I've been you know, I've been destroying myself.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna build myself back up. Um, I am.
Speaker 1: I'm It's hard to say it, but I guess I'm real.
Speaker 1: Like I'm going out there and I'm gonna be myself regardless.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna play a role.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do something that is uncomfortable with me,
Speaker 1: doesn't sit well. I'm just gonna go there and be myself.
Speaker 1: And I think when somebody is actually just who they are,
Speaker 1: it's apparent. Um. Second of all, even though I had
Speaker 1: a bad haircut, I'm still not you know, I'm still Yes,
Speaker 1: you're attractive, say it for you, attractive man, And I
Speaker 1: have a I have a good smile, you know, I've smile.
Speaker 1: That's always love a smile. You know what else I
Speaker 1: think it was you didn't say a lot. You know,
Speaker 1: you are attractive, and I think people were curious about you.
Speaker 1: And then you had grocery store Joe attached to it.
Speaker 1: So there's this there's this tagline that goes with you.
Speaker 1: So curiosity, You're mysterious. People wanted to know more about you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I think, back up, maybe she did an
Speaker 1: interview or something because people were just inquiring about you.
Speaker 1: She spoke so highly of you. Well, this is a
Speaker 1: great this is actually a pretty funny story. I guess
Speaker 1: I do, Yes, I do. Okay, So they I don't know.
Speaker 1: So after all this happens and I get popular. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't think. My brother's like, dude, you're trending on
Speaker 1: Twitter all this stuff. So I'm like, okay, So I'm
Speaker 1: getting popular on social media, which I never had social media.
Speaker 1: They call me and they're gonna cast me on Bachelor
Speaker 1: in Paradise. So it's like two days or it's a
Speaker 1: few days before we're going out. Now I didn't know.
Speaker 1: They told me literally last minute, Like they told me
Speaker 1: on a Friday night and you're leaving Sunday morning. They
Speaker 1: tell me Friday night, Saturday, I'm going to Bloomingdale's to
Speaker 1: buy swim shorts from Paradise. Literally like okay, I don't
Speaker 1: even have time to get a haircut. So I go.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm so infatuated with this haircut thing.
Speaker 1: So I go and get we're driving my friends in.
Speaker 1: We're downtown Chicago, so I'm gonna hop out of the
Speaker 1: car running the Bloomingdals. As I'm getting out of the car,
Speaker 1: we see Becca walk into Bloomingdals in Chicago. Okay, I
Speaker 1: thought that was playing see what I'm saying signs, see
Speaker 1: how things are meant to be. So now we're like,
Speaker 1: you have to go say something. So we go fight
Speaker 1: like like creeps. We go fight there and Bloomingdales. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what's up? She's like, oh my god. We take a picture.
Speaker 1: Then I get Then I start getting my followings, really
Speaker 1: starts going out. Then I left for Mexico, and then
Speaker 1: I was on Paradise. Okay, Steph, is it just me
Speaker 1: or does it seem like every day it's another day
Speaker 1: and another workout tool, another tip, another app. I swear
Speaker 1: I'm always hearing about a different one. I don't even
Speaker 1: know where to start. Me too, I had so many
Speaker 1: apps on my iPhone I could not even keep track
Speaker 1: of all the new ones. But I started using Noom
Speaker 1: and it really takes everything I was using, and it happened.
Speaker 1: It does it all in this one app. So I
Speaker 1: can track my exercise calories, all these things that I
Speaker 1: had different apps for, I do it all in this
Speaker 1: Neom app. Now that sounds like it has everything I
Speaker 1: need right there in that one app. So wait, explain
Speaker 1: it to me because you've been using this for a
Speaker 1: few months now, right, Yeah, I've been using in about
Speaker 1: two months. It's really I love it so far. So
Speaker 1: no food is off limits. That's huge for me because
Speaker 1: if I can't have a bagel on Fridays upstairs we
Speaker 1: have free bagels on Fridays, that's an issue for me.
Speaker 1: I have to have my bagel Friday. So it's great
Speaker 1: because it's all in the app. You just put in
Speaker 1: what you eat. It's all about moderation and there's this
Speaker 1: really great food database so I can track all my
Speaker 1: food and it's really organized and it's awesome. Wait, so
Speaker 1: you're telling me that no food is off limits nothing? Okay,
Speaker 1: this sounds like my kind of app. I don't know
Speaker 1: about you, guys, but I'm sold right now. It's just
Speaker 1: off Stephanie telling me her story. So listen, what do
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Speaker 1: slash b HH. So let's pick up from Paradise. Did
Speaker 1: you have your eyes set on anyone? Because you said
Speaker 1: you're like me, we didn't really watch the show before,
Speaker 1: so I imagine you didn't know too many people coming
Speaker 1: into Paradise. Well, were you looking for Kendall or were
Speaker 1: you just like whatever? I was trying to make it
Speaker 1: past the first night. Yeah, I just didn't want to
Speaker 1: get eliminated the first the first night, I wasn't looking
Speaker 1: for Kendall. She was the only one I was into.
Speaker 1: Once I was there, and everyone that came in, like
Speaker 1: we were open the whole time, Like we didn't really
Speaker 1: you know, we were just getting to know each other.
Speaker 1: So we were both down for if somebody comes in
Speaker 1: you on a datum. Obviously you know you're not my girlfriend,
Speaker 1: I'm not your boyfriend. It's just not what this is yet.
Speaker 1: We're just getting to know each other. There was just
Speaker 1: nobody I was really interested in going out with, and
Speaker 1: she was. I found her entertaining and interesting and pretty,
Speaker 1: and we were just she was just she was like
Speaker 1: a friend, like she was becoming a friend. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is cool, okay, And that was it, so I
Speaker 1: go on Paradise. We ended up. We broke up at
Speaker 1: the end, which was which felt like the right thing
Speaker 1: because I was going back to Chicago, she was going La.
Speaker 1: And it just wasn't that strong. We weren't. We were
Speaker 1: not that strong. We were like, we don't even know
Speaker 1: if we actually want to date, but we're sexually attracted
Speaker 1: to each other, so we do eventually went on sleep
Speaker 1: with each other. It's interesting that you say you weren't
Speaker 1: that strong, because watching it as a viewer, you guys
Speaker 1: seem to be one of these strongest couples there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: interesting to hear you say that, well, because we're strong
Speaker 1: there and we're getting to know each other. But if
Speaker 1: I go back to Chicago and she goes back to LA,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna like, I don't want to do a
Speaker 1: long discer relationship, and neither that she and it was
Speaker 1: it wasn't like that, like I wasn't like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: committed to you, and vice versa. So what ends up
Speaker 1: happening is we get off the show and then I'm like,
Speaker 1: I actually now, once I got home, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe I actually did have really you know, maybe I'm
Speaker 1: really into her, like I kind of miss her. And
Speaker 1: then we decided like, okay, let's actually try this, so
Speaker 1: we try it. I ended up getting casted on Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars. That made it easier. It put me
Speaker 1: in LA and we've basically been living together ever since.
Speaker 1: See the signs get casted brings you to LA. You
Speaker 1: don't even have to try. It was almost effortless. Things
Speaker 1: just happened for you, for you guys to be together.
Speaker 1: So what's life like for you now away from the camera.
Speaker 1: You're living in LA, You're doing your thing, you got
Speaker 1: a place together. Yeah, life now. So we Kendla and
Speaker 1: I lived together in West Hollywood and it's it's great.
Speaker 1: I mean, we just were with each other. I never
Speaker 1: thought I could be with a significant other for as
Speaker 1: long as I'm with Kendall, like you know, during the day,
Speaker 1: but she is, you know, every day she surprises me.
Speaker 1: She's just a very interesting human and human I don't
Speaker 1: know why I said that, because she's just she's just
Speaker 1: you know, she just I just enjoy being with her
Speaker 1: every day and it's just it's great. And then I
Speaker 1: do I have a clothing line now that I started.
Speaker 1: It's called Frown Clothing and we partnered with Smile Train.
Speaker 1: I did that with Alan Burston, who's down Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars. I have a lot of Dancing with the
Speaker 1: Stars friends here, so we all hang out. Um, I
Speaker 1: was by vals last night and we were playing video
Speaker 1: games and watching football. So that's that was like a
Speaker 1: really great experience for you. Yeah, that was a great experience.
Speaker 1: And Kendall Kendall has her podcast, so she's doing her
Speaker 1: thing and we just we're living a regular life. Does
Speaker 1: Kendall still practice taxidermy? Does Kendall still Kendall actually bought
Speaker 1: another piece of taxidermy yesterday and she put it in
Speaker 1: the house and she told me this morning, can you
Speaker 1: find the new taxidermy? So that was the thing that, um,
Speaker 1: I forget. I think it's I think it's a bird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all have I hate Bird's dead or alive? Are all that?
Speaker 1: All that? And stuff? I hate them both. I do
Speaker 1: plan on stuff and Copper, who is in the studio
Speaker 1: with us today, I do play as I'll need to
Speaker 1: consult with Kendall, Like like, you just put me on
Speaker 1: a plane for six hours. Now you're talking about stuff
Speaker 1: and me will be together forever. I told you we're
Speaker 1: too close. That's funny. So I love the way you
Speaker 1: talk about your relationship with Kendall because nothing's exaggerated that
Speaker 1: you don't sound like you're reading a script. You're just like,
Speaker 1: she surprises me every day and I just enjoy being
Speaker 1: around her. Just that simple. That's how it should be.
Speaker 1: That's exactly how I would describe the relationship with Brian.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's effortless. We don't even have to try. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that was the biggest thing because I never
Speaker 1: really had a serious relationship and I always felt like
Speaker 1: if I can hang out with her the next day
Speaker 1: and just be you know, if it's a friendship, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for, because that's what it's really all about.
Speaker 1: Do you ever sit back, because this is I do
Speaker 1: this with Brian still and we're two plus years, two
Speaker 1: years in at this point, do you ever sit back
Speaker 1: and you're like, I cannot believe I met this person
Speaker 1: on a reality TV show. Great question, Not really only when,
Speaker 1: like when we go do bachelor things, like when we
Speaker 1: went to Paradise for the wedding Kristen Crystal's wedding, it
Speaker 1: was like, I can't believe we met on this show,
Speaker 1: you know, because you were probably looking around like look
Speaker 1: at these people. Yeah yeah, I know you look at everyone,
Speaker 1: look at these people. And we met and we made
Speaker 1: it out of this. We survived this. That's how That's
Speaker 1: how I think of it. It's just it's crazy. It
Speaker 1: is lightning in a bottle. Yeah, it's you know, you
Speaker 1: look at you look at the contestants and batter Nation,
Speaker 1: and you know they're all different. But it's hard to
Speaker 1: be successful outside of all of this because the odds
Speaker 1: really are against you. You know, you're you're dating in public.
Speaker 1: You're dating in public, especially when you when you're popular
Speaker 1: off the show. You know, you have everyone's trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, meet you or date you or not everyone.
Speaker 1: I take that back, not everyone, but you are, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you have like this, it's not fame,
Speaker 1: but you have this popularity that you didn't have before,
Speaker 1: like no one did, and so like all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, I was going on a show
Speaker 1: looking for love and now it's like you you could
Speaker 1: date so many different people like you could do that,
Speaker 1: But for me, that's just not what I wanted. I
Speaker 1: actually believe it or not. Was kind of there for
Speaker 1: the right reasons, which was too fine love and I
Speaker 1: didn't even know that at the time. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that's why it worked. I always say, it's
Speaker 1: the people who come in and are like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to meet my husband or my wife. That's not realistic.
Speaker 1: I think you just have to be open to whatever
Speaker 1: can happen and just see how it goes and take
Speaker 1: it day by day. Those are the most successful couples.
Speaker 1: Do you hang out a lot with Batchelor Nation people?
Speaker 1: I hang out with Not a lot. I don't. Jason
Speaker 1: was just in town. I hung out with Jason. I
Speaker 1: really like Jason and Kaitlin. I've hung out with like
Speaker 1: the guys that live in LA like Nick and Jared.
Speaker 1: I've hung out with them a few times, you know,
Speaker 1: watch football, but for the most part, not a lot.
Speaker 1: Now I don't either, Yea, And I feel like sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm interested in your thoughts on that you get flak
Speaker 1: from it because for me, I look at and we
Speaker 1: have blake on the podcast and Blake was saying family
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, it's
Speaker 1: not family. It's like a fraternity and a sorority high school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and all went through this experience together, so we all
Speaker 1: share that. But I don't find the need to be
Speaker 1: friends with every single person that comes out of Bachelnation.
Speaker 1: Friendly okay, of course, friendly with everyone, friendly with everyone, right,
Speaker 1: but friends, No, I just don't think it's realistic. And
Speaker 1: I think sometimes and I'm interested in your thoughts on that,
Speaker 1: because I feel like we think, we think a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're similar. I don't. I don't feel the need to
Speaker 1: be besties or comment on everybody's post or feel like
Speaker 1: and so sometimes I get looked at as I'm not
Speaker 1: a girls girl. But it's like, I'm very close with
Speaker 1: the girls I was on Nick season with, Yeah, very
Speaker 1: cool with him. And Brian's cool with the guys he
Speaker 1: was on my season with, and they were all at
Speaker 1: the wedding. But I don't feel the need to be
Speaker 1: everybody's best friend. Oh you know what, I hang out
Speaker 1: with Eric a lot. Eric's gray Er. I hang out
Speaker 1: with Eric a lot pretty much. I probably hang out
Speaker 1: with him out of in Bachelination the most um I
Speaker 1: I personally in this can be wrong. I feel like
Speaker 1: people through the term friend around too lightly. I have
Speaker 1: friends that have been my friends since I've been a kid.
Speaker 1: They're people I trust. If I'm ever going to rob
Speaker 1: a bank, that's who I'm robbing it with. That's a
Speaker 1: bad explanation, don't air that. But I I want to
Speaker 1: trust my friends, and I think most of people in
Speaker 1: vater Nation, everyone I've met has been great. They're all nice.
Speaker 1: I don't have any issues with them. I would go
Speaker 1: grab a drink with pretty much anyone and then we
Speaker 1: could see if we hit it off and we become friends.
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to just say because you were
Speaker 1: on the same show that I was on, that now
Speaker 1: we are really we're a family, because we're not family. Right.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't invite them to your wedding? Yeah? All of them?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't invite most of
Speaker 1: them to my wedding, and I wouldn't consider any of
Speaker 1: them family. I would say there's a few. There's a
Speaker 1: handful of people from bachel Nation that I consider friends.
Speaker 1: Everybody else I think it is cool. I like them,
Speaker 1: and I have no problem hanging out with anyone getting
Speaker 1: to know them better. But until I do that, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to just be like, yeah, because we're on
Speaker 1: the same show, we're tight, because we're not because we
Speaker 1: don't know each other. Yeah, and that's fake. Yeah I'm
Speaker 1: not fake. I'm not either, And I feel like that
Speaker 1: sometimes the lines get blurred like that between when it
Speaker 1: comes to fans and how they watch certain things, and
Speaker 1: you look like your stant office or you're just not
Speaker 1: a team player, and it's like, no, you know you
Speaker 1: have friends before the show and those are the people
Speaker 1: like you said you do from a banquet, but you
Speaker 1: are friendly with everybody, but it doesn't mean that you
Speaker 1: have to be best friends. Totally agree on that. So
Speaker 1: since you have just created this own path, your own
Speaker 1: path in regards to what a first Snyder has never
Speaker 1: done before and probably never will do again, in do
Speaker 1: other first Sniders contact you and are like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you know, how how did you do it? How can
Speaker 1: I get on Dancing with the Stars? I know they do.
Speaker 1: I know they slide in your DMS, so I don't
Speaker 1: really check my DMS. But I really don't love Joe.
Speaker 1: I really don't check my DMS. There are a few people,
Speaker 1: a few contestants from this season reached out to me. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't want you to name names, but did they
Speaker 1: say how did you do it? Did they want advice?
Speaker 1: They they kind of asked, well, they ask for advice,
Speaker 1: which I have no problem getting giving because it is
Speaker 1: confusing once you're on it. Um, that kid, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll just say his name. That kid that got kicked
Speaker 1: off the first night, Matt McDonald. Oh, but he's on Paradise.
Speaker 1: He was on Paradise. He before he went to Paradise.
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, and then he DM me again
Speaker 1: and then I saw it. But he had asked me,
Speaker 1: you know, for my advice when he went on there,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't asking it for like how do I get,
Speaker 1: you know, casting on Dance the Stars. She's like, do
Speaker 1: you have any advice for me? And I just told him, yeah,
Speaker 1: go out there, have fun and be yourself. Yeah, enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Did you watch him on it? I did? Do you
Speaker 1: think that he was himself? I think that he said
Speaker 1: son of a beasting. He might be my favorite line
Speaker 1: of so from what I watched with him, he seems
Speaker 1: like a really nice guy. He seemed like he kind
Speaker 1: of got caught up a little bit with like he
Speaker 1: kept calling the one girl a supermodel, like I can't
Speaker 1: believe like a date a supermodel, And I think he
Speaker 1: kind of And it seemed like the one other girl
Speaker 1: that he was dating, I'm bad with names. The other
Speaker 1: girl that didn't okay, yeah, it seemed like she was.
Speaker 1: It seemed like she could be into him, and she
Speaker 1: seemed like she's perfect for him, like she's she's very attractive,
Speaker 1: she seemed intelligent. They seem to like each other. And
Speaker 1: I think he might have got caught up a little
Speaker 1: bit in like, oh man, I'm like in the and
Speaker 1: my famous kind of thing, like wow, I could date
Speaker 1: this supermodel. And I think he screwed up personally. Old
Speaker 1: Matt Donald. Is that his name, Matt Matt, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's Matt Donald. He is epitomizes why I
Speaker 1: think the bachelors are not successful as successful as the
Speaker 1: bachelorettes on the show. I always say that the women
Speaker 1: do a better job of saying, you know what, this
Speaker 1: person would work with me in real life. This you
Speaker 1: have to think outside of the bachelor bubble. I think
Speaker 1: the men pick the woman that they couldn't get in
Speaker 1: real life, or the one they fantasize about, or their
Speaker 1: dream girl. And that's when I see what Matt went
Speaker 1: through or Mac whatever it is. Um, when I see
Speaker 1: what he went through, I'm like, that's what people get
Speaker 1: caught up. And he went after that girl and then
Speaker 1: she told him, no, you see me as just a model. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want you. Guys have two brains. You got
Speaker 1: to follow the right way, yes, yes, and and oftentimes
Speaker 1: they don't. Right, yea, right, we know. Okay, Hannah's on
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. Is that Wait, you went on
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars and then Hannah was right after you.
Speaker 1: There hasn't been anybody in between, right, No, it was
Speaker 1: me and then Hannah. I hear. It's a really rigorous
Speaker 1: like competition. Okay. Dancing with the Stars was one of
Speaker 1: the best experiences of my life. It was great. Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars was awesome. I became so Hannah's partner. Now,
Speaker 1: Alan is one of my best friends in la and
Speaker 1: he we have a coldony line together. But you become
Speaker 1: like all the dancers, every celebrity that was on the show,
Speaker 1: the production, everyone is so cool and very friendly, so
Speaker 1: It's just a great experience for me. And then the
Speaker 1: tour was even better. The tour was so much fun.
Speaker 1: Are you required to do the tour? Everybody has to
Speaker 1: do it? No, So I was. I got cast to
Speaker 1: host a tour for four weeks, and the guy following me,
Speaker 1: he was five weeks after me. He got hurt, so
Speaker 1: I stayed on. So I ended up doing it for
Speaker 1: like two months, a little over two months. How far
Speaker 1: did you make it on Dancing with the Stars. Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars, I made it to the semifinals and
Speaker 1: had and I got destroyed by the judges every week.
Speaker 1: I do remember that. Yeah, but you were a fan favorite.
Speaker 1: So wait, simi semifinals is top four? Top five? Was good?
Speaker 1: Hey you were doing something right? Yeah, I mean people
Speaker 1: were voting. Well, there was a lot of good dancers
Speaker 1: on that show from the beginning of performers, and I
Speaker 1: wasn't good. Like now, I have no problem in minting
Speaker 1: that I was not a good dancer. I was uncomfortable
Speaker 1: and I was never a dancer to begin with. So
Speaker 1: I sucked, but I got better do So do you
Speaker 1: think you're a good dancer now? Well, I mean I'm
Speaker 1: professionally trained Rachel, Right, I am going to be honest.
Speaker 1: Any club I walk into, for the most part, I
Speaker 1: have more training ninety percent of the people, and you
Speaker 1: also have more pressure. They're expect big things because you
Speaker 1: are professionally trained. So she want to throw that out there.
Speaker 1: Professionally trade by Jenna Johnson. So do you still watch
Speaker 1: the show? And I watch it now because yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: friends with most of the dancers. How's Hannah doing, Hannah.
Speaker 1: I think she's doing really really, Hannah's doing great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: from what I've seen, I haven't actually watched it, but
Speaker 1: I've seen her, Yeah, and she's doing well. It seems
Speaker 1: like she's one of the favorites. Yeah, for sure. I
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of competition though on her season
Speaker 1: right now, Like there are a lot of good dancers. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So since you have so many friends on Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars, it'd be nice if you could just say,
Speaker 1: you know, my friend Rachel would kill this show. You probably, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will, I'll text someone after the show. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I want to focus on my relationship and I do
Speaker 1: not regret that decision. But now people are like, how's
Speaker 1: Hannah doing? Would you do it? Yeah? Why would I?
Speaker 1: Not do it. Ye know, it's great you should. You'd
Speaker 1: probably be really I think my time has passed, you know,
Speaker 1: so I just put my energy behind Hannah and support
Speaker 1: her because she's killing it. We've been asking our listeners
Speaker 1: to email us and give us their thoughts and opinions
Speaker 1: about the podcast, the good and the bad, because I
Speaker 1: want to hear both sides. But then at the same
Speaker 1: time just asking us for advice on certain things, and
Speaker 1: I feel like we keep it real. So you'd be
Speaker 1: really good at answering some of these emails. So if
Speaker 1: you'll stick around, we'll get to them right after the break.
Speaker 1: All right, Joe, let's get into these emails. I haven't
Speaker 1: read them before because I want to give a fresh opinion.
Speaker 1: I want to answer them right off the top of
Speaker 1: my head. You're going to do the same. You haven't
Speaker 1: looked at them either, So here we go, good and
Speaker 1: the bad, remember that, all right. First email comes from
Speaker 1: Jessica V. She says, I'm a big fan of the podcast. Thanks, Jess.
Speaker 1: I really love the interview with Blake. I know you
Speaker 1: guys have talked about this a little on the podcast,
Speaker 1: but I'm curious what it's like after the camera stopped
Speaker 1: rolling on the show. Was there anything you realize was
Speaker 1: different with your partner after filming stopped? And what's the
Speaker 1: hardest part about going from dating on TV to dating
Speaker 1: in the normal world. I feel like we can't answer
Speaker 1: that last question because we're with the people that we
Speaker 1: Yeah that unless Joe where you did you date somebody
Speaker 1: in between Batchette and bat and Paradise? No? Okay, I didn't,
Speaker 1: all right, So first question that she asked was was
Speaker 1: there anything you realize was different with your partner after
Speaker 1: filming stopped? Okay, I'll answer this, of course, because you
Speaker 1: only know this person for a short period of time.
Speaker 1: You only could only know so much about somebody in
Speaker 1: two weeks or three weeks, however long it is, and
Speaker 1: then once you actually live with them, you learn so
Speaker 1: many different things and habits. So yeah, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: same for me. Um. Interesting when when I said yes
Speaker 1: to Brian, Brian you see watch Brian on my season.
Speaker 1: He was like kind of portrayed as this rico, suave,
Speaker 1: smooth operators said all the right things and very outgoing,
Speaker 1: and in real life he is quiet, he's he's talks
Speaker 1: to me, but in like a big room, he's quiet,
Speaker 1: he's more reserved. He watches and I didn't know that
Speaker 1: about him until after the show was over. But I
Speaker 1: definitely say it's it's different, but for the better. You know,
Speaker 1: because there's no camera in your face, you're not having
Speaker 1: trying to I don't want to say perform, but feel
Speaker 1: like you have to say certain things. You can just
Speaker 1: completely be yourself, which some people that's good and some
Speaker 1: people that's bad. For us, it worked out. We can't
Speaker 1: really answer what's the hardest part about what's the hardest
Speaker 1: part about going from dating on TV to dating in
Speaker 1: the normal world. Oh, we can answer that, Okay, right
Speaker 1: for it. Joe dating on TV and dating and there's
Speaker 1: no cameras and it's as simple as that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're not you're not. There's no camera in your face,
Speaker 1: and you could be. Everyone's gonna be a little reserved
Speaker 1: on camera. Yeah, that's just what it is. So you're
Speaker 1: more open and you talk about more per sal life
Speaker 1: experiences and just more shit about yourself when you're not
Speaker 1: on TV, so you really really get to know someone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if we're talking about the hardest part dating on TV
Speaker 1: in regards to The Bachelor, I'd say when you're on
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, Bachelor, atte whatever, you're protected. You're in this
Speaker 1: bubble where you're dating in these set dates and everything
Speaker 1: is planned for you, and then you go to the
Speaker 1: normal world and it's completely different. So I think you
Speaker 1: go from fantasy to reality, and that can be hard
Speaker 1: sometimes because it's reality. Yeah, and the food's free on
Speaker 1: the show and it's not in real life. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: next email. Okay, Erica emailed in Paradise tajawand I believe
Speaker 1: Tajuan kept telling JPJ not to eat the date food.
Speaker 1: What's that about? What's the actual deal with the date food?
Speaker 1: Is it just for looks? Can we answer that? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: I believe the date food is just for looks. I
Speaker 1: don't think they want people to be chewing food on
Speaker 1: a date, so I think it's kind of just for looks.
Speaker 1: And then we are well fed. There's a bar there.
Speaker 1: There's a bar that you could eat whenever you want.
Speaker 1: So when you go on a date, it's really just
Speaker 1: about talking and getting to know that person, not about
Speaker 1: the food. Absolutely, that's right. I was told America does
Speaker 1: not want to see you eat because people smack they
Speaker 1: talk with food in their mouth. That's not cute. You know,
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be put together. I remember on my
Speaker 1: date with Nick, we were eating bignets and they let
Speaker 1: us eat them because we were New Orleans for the Culture,
Speaker 1: and we had powder all over our mouths. We were smacking,
Speaker 1: we couldn't talk to each other. It was not pretty.
Speaker 1: And I remember being like, Okay, I get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess did you go to the famous place in
Speaker 1: New Orleans for those what's it called Kathay Dumont? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that right, Yes, you got it right, New
Speaker 1: Orleans Culture got it. But yes, that's a very common
Speaker 1: question we get about the food. It's usually cold when
Speaker 1: it's in front of us. You don't want to eat
Speaker 1: it anyway. Yes, it is just for show. And if
Speaker 1: you want to watch people eat, just follow me on
Speaker 1: Instagram because that's all I do on my Instagram is
Speaker 1: eat food. There you go. Um, okay, next up, Steph
Speaker 1: s She says, I love the podcast, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: My question is do you speed up the talking to
Speaker 1: fit everything in, because sometimes they're talking so fast you
Speaker 1: really have to listen carefully to catch everything that's actually funny.
Speaker 1: I think I've talked slow when I think I talk
Speaker 1: fast in person, but when I hear it back, I
Speaker 1: think it's slow. Make sure you don't have the speed
Speaker 1: up when you're listening to the podcast. But we definitely
Speaker 1: don't talk faster to fit everything in. It is a
Speaker 1: lot of information. We do try to keep it under
Speaker 1: an hour, but nope, we don't. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: speed talking here, so you'll be the test. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: Steph listening. Hopefully you're listening to this one. And maybe
Speaker 1: maybe I just talk fast. Maybe it is just me.
Speaker 1: I think you talk at a pretty good pace. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Magna emailed Rachel. I really didn't like how
Speaker 1: much hate in shade you were throwing at Kaylin during
Speaker 1: the first interview M but thought I would give you
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt and listen to part two.
Speaker 1: Kaylin is not great, no doubt, but this perpetual and
Speaker 1: ongoing attack on her is a bad look. Really left
Speaker 1: a bad taste in my mouth. Oh, Magna's coming at you, Rachel,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad she did because she's not alone. There've
Speaker 1: been a lot of people who phil I am on
Speaker 1: this Kaylin hate train, and I find it so interesting
Speaker 1: because the podcast is called Bachelor happy Hour, so we
Speaker 1: talk about the characters with in bachronation. And so we
Speaker 1: started this podcast talking about bathroom Paradise. Well, Kaylin was
Speaker 1: a hot topic, and she wasn't the only person I
Speaker 1: talk about. And I will admit, Okay, you got to
Speaker 1: say when you're wrong. When I during the Dean interview,
Speaker 1: I do feel like I was a little harsh rather
Speaker 1: than I like to deal in logic and facts and reason,
Speaker 1: and maybe I was a little bit too opinionated in
Speaker 1: the Dean interview. So I'll own that, but I still
Speaker 1: stand by, you know, my beliefs and how the Kaylin
Speaker 1: and Blake situation panned out, and I do I've always
Speaker 1: said I believe they're both wrong, and I've explained the
Speaker 1: reasons for both. But I think that the whole Kalen
Speaker 1: thing is really being blown out of proportion. You know,
Speaker 1: now I'm being accused of not uplifting women, and everyone's
Speaker 1: saying each podcast thereafter has been bashing Kalin and I
Speaker 1: continue to bash people on the podcast, and that could
Speaker 1: not be farther from the truth. I mean, we've done
Speaker 1: thirteen episodes and we've had Tasia, Nicole, Hannah Ali. I
Speaker 1: can't even think of all the women we've had on
Speaker 1: this show, and I've Christina Demi, and I've not bashed them,
Speaker 1: you know. So I do not agree with the way
Speaker 1: that Kaylin was on the show, but it's not necessarily bashing.
Speaker 1: It's just more talking about what happened. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: could keep going on that, but it's I definitely don't
Speaker 1: hate Kaylin. I just didn't agree with what she did,
Speaker 1: and patch were in Paradise is over at this point,
Speaker 1: so I don't have to really talk about it anymore.
Speaker 1: So don't worry about that. Continue to listen. It's not
Speaker 1: a bash vest it's just a place where we can
Speaker 1: have open discussion. Take that, Magna. No, she just dropped
Speaker 1: the mic on you. Cool. So we've got mema Patty
Speaker 1: on Facebook. I hope I'm saying that right. She asked,
Speaker 1: does Batchel Nation ever go back to work? How come
Speaker 1: everybody's always traveling? That is a great question, Joe, take
Speaker 1: it away. Well, I mean in my case, I don't.
Speaker 1: I can't speak for everyone, but in my case, I
Speaker 1: had to leave my job because I got casting on
Speaker 1: other shows and I danced for eight months out of
Speaker 1: the here, so I didn't really have a choice. But
Speaker 1: you know, you get paid well when you do the
Speaker 1: other shows, and then you have to figure things out
Speaker 1: and once you have a following on Instagram, you could
Speaker 1: parlay it into something else. People make a lot of
Speaker 1: money doing ads. I personally don't do too many, but
Speaker 1: people make a lot of money doing ads, and with
Speaker 1: that money, it seems like they take it and they
Speaker 1: travel and they have a lot of fun. So people
Speaker 1: try to enjoy. People enjoy the life after the Bachelor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I every post I post on Instagram, somebody
Speaker 1: asked me, do you still work as a lawyer? Are
Speaker 1: you still an attorney? And it's a legitimate question. I
Speaker 1: get it, and it was I actually don't practice anymore.
Speaker 1: But right after the show, right after Bachelor, I went
Speaker 1: right back to work. Right after Bachelorette, I was still working.
Speaker 1: I just stopped working as an attorney in December of
Speaker 1: last year. But it doesn't mean that I'm not working.
Speaker 1: It just means my line of work has changed. And
Speaker 1: I think that what people don't realize is you're given
Speaker 1: this platform and this opportunity, and so you take advantage
Speaker 1: of that in whatever way that might be. For me.
Speaker 1: I've decided to move into TV and radio, among other things.
Speaker 1: And for each other Bachelor contestant, their path is different.
Speaker 1: So it's not that we're not working. It's just, you know,
Speaker 1: your life changes when you do this whole thing. It's
Speaker 1: turned upside down, so you know, use it for what
Speaker 1: you want to. But I I'm going to stop there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Pamela emailed Hi, Pamela, I would love some insights on
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison. What's his role in the storyline. He comes
Speaker 1: off as sincere, but does he really care or is
Speaker 1: it part of production? What's the backstory here? Okay, great question.
Speaker 1: I can only answer from my personal experience. But Chris
Speaker 1: Harrison seems like a great guy. He's you know, you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's just he's a man's man. He's cool. Like
Speaker 1: I get along with Chris Harrison. I don't know him
Speaker 1: too well. I don't know if he really cares. I
Speaker 1: think the people that he is close with he really
Speaker 1: cares about, and the people that he's not close close
Speaker 1: with he probably doesn't really care. But he doesn't you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think he wants to hurt anyone. No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: people come and go on the show, so he can
Speaker 1: only get close to so many people. When you're a contestant,
Speaker 1: you're not around Chris Harrison except when he pops out
Speaker 1: to tell you there's a cocktail party, there isn't one,
Speaker 1: or there's a rose ceremony or some other crazy announcement.
Speaker 1: But when you're the lead, you do get to spend
Speaker 1: more time with Chris Harrison, so I can speak to
Speaker 1: that point of view or that perspective, and I think
Speaker 1: Chris is great. He is a straight shooter, He is direct,
Speaker 1: and I love to be around people that are like that.
Speaker 1: And I will say that Chris definitely does care, because
Speaker 1: I would talk to him a lot off camera, and
Speaker 1: even if whether it was about career or life in general,
Speaker 1: or just your world has turned upside down so you're
Speaker 1: confused as to how you're going to navigate this whole thing,
Speaker 1: he is very not just informative, but just really willing
Speaker 1: to listen and to give you advice on how to
Speaker 1: move forward after the show, and so I definitely can
Speaker 1: say that he absolutely cares. Next, we have an email
Speaker 1: from Ashby. Ashby says, I'd love to hear more about
Speaker 1: what they think about everything being said of all the
Speaker 1: girls in Pete's season. I definitely want to know more
Speaker 1: about how Rachel feels, about what roles social media plays,
Speaker 1: and our perceptions of the cast members even before we
Speaker 1: actually see them on the show, and how that speaks
Speaker 1: about whether they are in it for the right reasons. Well, Ashby,
Speaker 1: I'll say you couldn't be talking to two worse people,
Speaker 1: because I guarantee you Joe has heard nothing about the
Speaker 1: girls in Pete's season. Nothing. I have no clue what
Speaker 1: they mean, and I haven't either. I haven't. I know
Speaker 1: they've released the cast members pictures early. I didn't look
Speaker 1: at a single one of them. I just know that
Speaker 1: they do that because honestly, I don't want to I
Speaker 1: don't want to know before I truly want to watch
Speaker 1: it fresh. Even though it's hard to not be spoiled
Speaker 1: these days, I don't want to know. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be tainted. I don't want to have preconceived notions
Speaker 1: about these contestants. So I have no idea. I've heard
Speaker 1: inklings about some things, have you, Joe? No? No. I
Speaker 1: have heard that there are some paget girls, which I'm like,
Speaker 1: really didn't that is so l y as people say,
Speaker 1: that is so last year? Can we not have another
Speaker 1: Paget Girls storyline. I'm hoping that's not the case. When
Speaker 1: you say, Ashby, are people in it for the right reasons,
Speaker 1: and you mentioned social media, I'm guessing they're a lot
Speaker 1: of people who maybe aren't employed or maybe have their influencer. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: there will be people don't own grocery stores. That's why
Speaker 1: people like you too, the right reasons. I want to
Speaker 1: touch on that because let's just call it how it is.
Speaker 1: Nobody really what is the right reason anyways to just
Speaker 1: get married? I mean, no one goes on the show
Speaker 1: for the right real like, everyone has an agenda. I
Speaker 1: don't care what anyone says. That's true. But you could
Speaker 1: actually fall in love on the show, and if you're open,
Speaker 1: if you leave yourself open the falling in love, then
Speaker 1: you're there for the right reasons, even if you kind
Speaker 1: of went there. Like social media is what it is,
Speaker 1: Instagram's big. People can make a living off Instagram and
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nations. Instagram following is crazy. So I would say
Speaker 1: majority of the people that go on the show are
Speaker 1: going on to get popular on Instagram. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: they're not trying to fall in love, but it means
Speaker 1: they're going to get popular on Instagram and if they
Speaker 1: fall in love, great, that's my personal opinion, and I
Speaker 1: think and I think you're right, And I think that
Speaker 1: that's what's hard as a viewer to watch this show
Speaker 1: right now because you're seeing as they've already released the
Speaker 1: cast members, and you see what they do, and maybe
Speaker 1: you see social media influencer or you've found them on
Speaker 1: social media and you see that their entire feed looks
Speaker 1: like they want to increase their following. That's hard if
Speaker 1: you're a viewer and you're watching this show, because you're like, well,
Speaker 1: are you just on the show? For that reason, I
Speaker 1: think it's easier to believe because when you're watching TV.
Speaker 1: I watch reality TV and other shows, and you do
Speaker 1: want to buy into this fantasy. Like I'm a Housewife fan.
Speaker 1: I want to believe that these are the true storylines
Speaker 1: and they are not setting them up in these positions.
Speaker 1: So when if I'm a fan of The Bachelor, I
Speaker 1: want to believe that people are really going on here
Speaker 1: because you know what, nothing else has worked for them
Speaker 1: and so they just want to see if maybe this
Speaker 1: is a way to meet somebody. And I think that
Speaker 1: that's more believable when they have a legitimate job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think sure. So I think that that's what's
Speaker 1: hard is you're continuing to see people who aren't who
Speaker 1: don't do anything. Yeah, and so it's like, uh, I
Speaker 1: guess I'll just go on the Bachelor, you know, and
Speaker 1: and grow my social media falling. That's what it looks like.
Speaker 1: So it seems very disingenuous, but you have and you
Speaker 1: also have to have some respect for casting because they
Speaker 1: are casting people who are good people for the most part,
Speaker 1: and they are casting they're not They're not stupid. They
Speaker 1: know when somebody's literally going on there just to be popular.
Speaker 1: They know that, and those people they probably don't cast, right.
Speaker 1: I don't know Jed got casted? Yeah, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: but Jed honesty, I had to. It was the low
Speaker 1: hanging fruit I had to. But yeah, Jed, I mean
Speaker 1: Jesus man, I mean, I don't know what like he
Speaker 1: he didn't sugarcord it at all. He's like, I'm going
Speaker 1: on here, I'm trying to build up my music or
Speaker 1: and they let that happen. What did you think of that?
Speaker 1: What did you think when he said if you if
Speaker 1: you saw this, when he said I'm going on this show.
Speaker 1: I came on this show to further my music career.
Speaker 1: What was your initial thought would you if if a
Speaker 1: girl told you that, would you have sent her home?
Speaker 1: If if I was the lead and the girl said
Speaker 1: I came on here at the further my music career,
Speaker 1: I would have sent her home the same I would.
Speaker 1: I would say, Okay, you're you're gone. Um. The fact
Speaker 1: that he said it, I can't. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: have an issue with him saying it because he's just
Speaker 1: being honest. Sure, and he could still be there to
Speaker 1: further his music career and also fall in love at
Speaker 1: the same time. But I mean he probably shouldn't know
Speaker 1: what on there with a girlfriend. I mean that he
Speaker 1: shouldn't have did um. But yeah, it seemed like he
Speaker 1: was constantly playing the guitar. So some people slipped through
Speaker 1: the cracks. You know, some people they can't they can't
Speaker 1: always get it right. But you are right to come
Speaker 1: in casting because they do do a really good job.
Speaker 1: And I think that Listen, we live in a different
Speaker 1: age right now. Being an influencer is a job these days,
Speaker 1: and so whether you like it or not, you just
Speaker 1: have to accept it. And it doesn't mean that they
Speaker 1: aren't genuine when they come on the show. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe they are trying to grow their following, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they can't still be open for love.
Speaker 1: I know it's a hard pill to swallow, but it
Speaker 1: is a legitimate job and people make legit money. So
Speaker 1: I think you should go on the show. I think
Speaker 1: it's better off they cast people with regular jobs. And
Speaker 1: then what happens after that? You know, you have no
Speaker 1: control no one, No one does because you don't know
Speaker 1: how popular you're gonna get. You don't know if you're
Speaker 1: gonna get cast in on something else. You get thrown
Speaker 1: into this different world and you try to make the
Speaker 1: best of it. All right, Joe, you've been great. We've
Speaker 1: had a good time. Always appreciate hanging with you. But
Speaker 1: before I let you go, you're always instagramming photos and
Speaker 1: videos of food. So we thought we'd play a little
Speaker 1: go ahead and plug it. What's it gonna be called?
Speaker 1: It's untitled right now, but it's probably like I don't
Speaker 1: know yet. Maybe it might be like let's go eat
Speaker 1: or something, but I don't know. I haven't figured it
Speaker 1: out yet. Yeah, no, I'm here for it. Filing tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, so we're right on brand. We
Speaker 1: thought it'd be fun to play a fire round of
Speaker 1: this or that, and it is the food editions. So
Speaker 1: are you up for this? I'm ready. We might be
Speaker 1: giving you ideas for your YouTube channel. There you go,
Speaker 1: all right, here we go real quick. First thing that
Speaker 1: comes to mind than crust or thick crust pizza. Then
Speaker 1: Chicago or New York style New York. I don't even
Speaker 1: know the difference between the two. Stay in and cook
Speaker 1: or eat out both? Okay, that is not an option,
Speaker 1: is I mean? Obviously can you cook? Um? I could
Speaker 1: cook and Kendall cook cook. So I do like I
Speaker 1: do like staying in and eating, but we do eat
Speaker 1: out a lot. Will your YouTube channel give cooking lessons?
Speaker 1: It might? It needs to because for us, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: open beer or wine, beer, cheeseburger or cheese fries, cheeseburger
Speaker 1: bagels are donuts, ice cream or frozen yogen yo, apple
Speaker 1: pie or pumpkin pie, pumpkin pie, yuck, tacos are Actually
Speaker 1: I don't like, to be honest, I don't like apple
Speaker 1: pie or pumpkin pie. Pumpkin has no flavor. That's not true. Pumpkins,
Speaker 1: pumpkins savory sweet. I don't know. I guess it depends
Speaker 1: on the pumpkin. Yeah, it's pretty bland. Me. Tacos are case?
Speaker 1: Is tacos green juice or clearly? I don't drink kombucha, okay,
Speaker 1: green juice or kombucha only because I'm lazy and I
Speaker 1: don't want to wait for the green juice to be made.
Speaker 1: But I prefer the green juice sectionally to me. Sorry, hopefully,
Speaker 1: don't especially when you get that little especially when you
Speaker 1: get the booger at the end of it that you
Speaker 1: just slurp up and it's, oh, yeah, I guess I
Speaker 1: never got that far. Oh god, It's just like, is
Speaker 1: it the bucha? It's I guess I want to like
Speaker 1: ferments and it's like the slimy part. It's actually supposed
Speaker 1: to be good for you, but it's it's gross. Okay,
Speaker 1: food in Chicago or food in La. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: a lot of hate for this, but I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: LA's got better restaurants than Chicago. You must be on
Speaker 1: a health kick. I'm not on a health kick. La.
Speaker 1: He's got no listen. I'm from Chicago. I love Chicago.
Speaker 1: We have great restaurants, great food, but La has some
Speaker 1: of my favorite restaurants. All right, well, thank you for
Speaker 1: playing this fire round of this or that the food
Speaker 1: edition you my pleasure. As I said, you're more than
Speaker 1: welcome to take that game for your YouTube channel. You
Speaker 1: should have me on. I'm a picky eater. I would
Speaker 1: have going to I would have said no to all
Speaker 1: of these things you don't like you do only I
Speaker 1: don't dairy, I don't know, I don't. I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: eat it, but in a weird way. No cheese, no
Speaker 1: ice cream, no frozen yogurt, no apple pie. You'd be great.
Speaker 1: You'd be great for the show you had me like
Speaker 1: Blind Taste Food and Blind Taste Show. Okay, anyways, Joe,
Speaker 1: it's been so great to have you. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for co hosting with me today. You have to
Speaker 1: back on Bachelor Happy Hour. We'd love to have you.
Speaker 1: I'll be back whenever you want me. Those are my pleasure.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. Rachel. All right, and don't forget
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