1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: What's up, guys, and welcome to another episode of Bachelor 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. I am so excited today because I have 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: a great co host, one of my Bachelor Nation favorites. 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: You guys don't know this because you don't really see 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: us hanging out together. But we've we've been around each 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: other a bit, so I'm not gonna let you wait 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: any longer. Sitting with me in the hot seat, not 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: really in the hot seat because he's co hosting today. 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: But I've got Joe A Moubley also known as grocery 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: store Joe or Joe the grocer. Is that what they 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: say Joe the grocer, Joe the grocer, grocery store Joe 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: asshole Southern? Now you can actually added that out too, Please, No, 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: keep it because I like it. They don't know this 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: side of the grocery store. No. Yeah, so you send 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: my last name wonderful? Oh yes, Joe A Mobley is 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: how you say a mobley for those who don't know. 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: Now you know it's a Mobley. I have to ask 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: to tell you. They say it really well in Italy 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: only been there wants and I can't speak the language 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: off the top. Do you like the name grocery store Joe. Um, 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing wrong with it. It doesn't bother me. 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: It's when I was on tour for Dancing with the 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: Stars and we did meet and greets, people would walk 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: up and be like, oh, you're you're grocery right, Like 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: I have a name, Okay, it's Joe or Joey or Joseph. 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: But I don't mind that. I mean, it's fine, but 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: people don't call me that. It's not like you're not 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: gonna have a conversation with me and be like, grocery 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 1: store Joe can grab a water out of the fridge. 30 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: So I don't know if it bothered you when like 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: people run up to you and they're like, oh, my gosh, 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: it's grocery store Joe, or because like Joe's a common name, 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: so it's like which Joe, grocery store Joe. Yeah, No, 34 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me. I like give me, I like attention. 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: So I like when people run up to me and 36 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: want to take pictures and stuff, do you really yeah? 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: Of course who doesn't. It makes you feel great? Ye? 38 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a girl problem because for me, 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, are my eyebrows done? Or my lash is done, 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: hair together. All of those are not together as we speak. 41 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: I just want to put that out there. Good. There's 42 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: no camera in here. But no for women, were like, wait, 43 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: we need angles, we need the camera for like for 44 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: you guys, it's totally different. Yeah. No. I For me, 45 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: I go to all the like tourists spots on purpose, 46 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: and I just like, line up, let's go. Who wants 47 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: to take a picture with me? I feel like I'm 48 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: learning a whole new Joe right now. That's hilarious. So 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: where do you go? Where the people behind you? Um? 50 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: Anywhere I'm at the girl? No, I'm joking. I mean, 51 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: but it doesn't bother me. It really doesn't. People come 52 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: people asking for pictures or just want to say what's 53 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: up or talk? Bring it on. What's the weirdest thing 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: somebody's ever said to you? Have they come up to 55 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: you and like brought you like an apple, like some 56 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: grocery Well, I mean that one would be that strange though. 57 00:02:53,120 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Somebody somebody just came with an apple you signed? Was 58 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: for me? People do that? They ask you to sign 59 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: their groceries. No, because they should. They should. I used 60 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: to be a trader and I used to I was 61 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: a trader to Chicago board a trade and I was 62 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: in the grocery business, so everyone thought I was Trader Joe. 63 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: So I actually DM Trader Joe's I'm like, what's up. 64 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys want to pay me? Yeah, as 65 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: you should. They never respond it. Take advantage of that. 66 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: Try again. They never responded to me. I'm really upset 67 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: about that. But maybe we'll get them as a sponsor 68 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: on this podcast and then you know, maybe it could 69 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: be your voice. Yeah, it'd be great, that'd be great. 70 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: But what what did you ask me before I went 71 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: on that little tangent of Trader Joes. I don't know. 72 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: I felt like I wanted to answer it. Oh oh no, 73 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: signing groceries. No, we're else where we what were we 74 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: talking about? You know why I love that you lost 75 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: your thought and you went on a tangent because a 76 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: lot of people when they saw you on the screen, 77 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: they felt like you didn't have a lot to say, 78 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: or you didn't really talk that much. But I think 79 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: i've heard you and Kendall say, or maybe it was 80 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: and Will say interviews that once you start talking, you 81 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: don't stop. Case some point on the podcast, well, I 82 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: mean here's the thing, though, I was only on screen, 83 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: like people, I was on the show for a day, 84 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: you know I was. I was on Bachelor for a day, Yes, 85 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: and I was only aired for what a minute? In 86 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds max, So that's all people saw. And then 87 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: when I did an interview with Chris Harrison, he said, 88 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: you don't talk much because I was nervous, and I 89 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: didn't really have much to say because I wasn't on 90 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: the goddamn show. So what happened? What happened the first night? 91 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: Because obviously we now know you're a fan favorite. You've 92 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: gone on to do great things, honestly, signing grocery bags. Honestly, 93 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: you're like the example of what all first sniders should achieve. Seriously, 94 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: it's probably never going to happen again, but you use 95 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: with whom a few of the night winners got on Paradise, 96 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: Oh Paradise, but still nobody has reached the leve of 97 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: fame after the first night, and they never will, they 98 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: truly never will. It will never happen again. But what 99 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: happened that first night? Okay? You why why did you 100 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: go home? Because people just seem to love you. I 101 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: don't get it, um, that's that's a fair question, and 102 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to answering it right now. I 103 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: okay for starters, my hair was too short. I wouldn't 104 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: do you think that's that's what I'm telling you. Well, 105 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: it was I went crazy with with a fade and 106 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't even however, styled my hair anyways, I don't 107 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: know what I was thinking. Second of all, it's a 108 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: long night, so I ended up I was by the 109 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 1: end of the night. I was pale. I was tired, 110 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: so I didn't really feel or look my best, you know. 111 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: My suit was I had a tom Ford suit. I 112 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: went and got a tom Fortune Wow. Yeah, yeah, because 113 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna be on TV, I might as 114 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: well do it right the first can't afford it on 115 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: four suit there h and m tom for it all 116 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: the way. So I get there and everyone was kind 117 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: of like, what are you doing on this show? Like 118 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: you don't seem like like why are you here? Yeah, 119 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: like kind of like what are you doing? And I'm like, honestly, 120 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it just I was approach at 121 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: a grocery store that wasn't my grocery store. Yeah, So 122 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: is that okay? So I guess I start from the beginning. 123 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: This is fun, all right. So I'm you know, it's October, 124 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: it's a regular day, you know, it's fall in Chicago. 125 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm going grocery store shopping, grocery store shopping. I'm buying 126 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: some almond butter or whatever I'm doing. And I'm leaving. 127 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: A lady walks up to me. She's like, hey, are 128 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: you single. I'm like, you know, I just and I 129 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: just got a normal haircut and I was feeling good. 130 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm like, what's up. She's like, would 131 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: you be interested in going on the Bachelor? And she 132 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: hands me a card that says the Bachelor. So I'm like, 133 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: I guess I wouldn't be the Bachelor. Sure, Just let 134 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: me just skip all this thing. I didn't know I 135 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: swore in my life. I didn't know at the time. 136 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: I don't have Instagram, I don't have anything. I'm just, 137 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of doing my thing in Chicago. 138 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: I have my place, I have my friends, I'm single, 139 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm going out, just you know, living life. She's like, 140 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: send me an email. So she's like, could you send 141 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: like ten pictures? And I have I text some of 142 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: my friends to send me photos they have in me. 143 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: I come up with eight eight pictures and I send 144 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: them an email. Next thing I know, they fly out 145 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: to Chicago. I get cast in. So now I'm out there. 146 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: All the producers are cool. Everybody seems to like me. 147 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,119 Speaker 1: I like all them. I'm like, this is this is cool, 148 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: but like, hey, I'm not gonna fall in love on 149 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: this show. Yes, we all that's how you should be 150 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: open to whatever. Yeah, I'm open. Like if I fall 151 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: in love, great, isn't going to happen. I highly doubt it. 152 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: I would bet against it. Um, So everything's cool. I 153 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: get to the to the hotel that they're sequestering and 154 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: sequestering a word sequestering, you know, my word of the 155 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: day sequester So they have us as in the hotel 156 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, great, you know everything's gonna be good. 157 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: We go out there. I Eddie's in my limb, always 158 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: talking to me. It's like, you're good. I'm like, yeah, 159 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm good, but I'm not. Now I'm freaking out. I'm 160 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: freaking I feel it. I'm like, this is horrible. I stepped. 161 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: He's like, whatever you do, don't talk when you get 162 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: out of the limo, say hello, say your name, but 163 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: do it in her face. I opened the limo door. 164 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: I start rambling, like you start Italian from Chicago, it's 165 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: about time, yeada, YadA, YadA. I walk up to her. 166 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: I talk for like two minutes. Then I say, I 167 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: forget everything I was gonna say, and she's like, what 168 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: you just were talking for two minutes? And then I said, 169 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: I said nice to meet you. Oh fuck, and they 170 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: actually played it. They bleeped it out and I walked inside. 171 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: Now I get inside and I'm looking at these guys 172 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: and they're talking and everyone's kind of like I feel 173 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: so bad for Becca, you know, her heart and what 174 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: already did, and for me, I'm like this that doesn't 175 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: make any sense. I'm like, she's the lead right now, 176 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: this is great. Did you know the backstory? Though? I 177 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: know you never watched the show, but did you know 178 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: what happened to her? I knew what happened, but the 179 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: way I looked at it was like, she's obviously over it. 180 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: She's the bachelor, she's winning that, yeah, or she's the 181 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: bachel threat. So like this is great for her. So 182 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm like okay, and I just I was uncomfortable, so 183 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: I couldn't really have any conversations. I wasn't comfortable speaking 184 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: on camera. UM, so I just kind of just I 185 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm just gonna go to the bar. 186 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a bear, and I'm gonna just kind 187 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: of do my own thing. I had the second talk 188 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: with her. Oh, he did have a talk with her. Yeah, 189 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: one really really bad. What did you talk about? I 190 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: was really nervous, and I asked her. I'm like, the 191 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: first thing that comes out of my stupid mouth is 192 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: what's your pet? Peeve? It was like my grandma when 193 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: I asked that question, what's your pet? Peeve? How I 194 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: thought it? And She's like, I don't know what yours? 195 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: And I'm like, ah, you know when I'm I said, 196 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: when I'm blading and this isn't even my pet, Peeve, 197 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: I said, when I'm waiting for my luggage at the 198 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: airport and somebody stands in front of me. It was 199 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: just silent. It was literally silent. I'm like, this couldn't 200 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: be going any worse. I would have laughed if I 201 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: was at that's right, you said that to me. I 202 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: just yeah, it's I would have known you were nervous, 203 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: and I would have been like, okay, just take a beat. Yeah, 204 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: but it would have been better if I my hair 205 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: was a little longer. So that was that was the 206 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: final show. Yeah, that was She's like this kid, this 207 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: guy is a weirdo and he's got a bad haircut. 208 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: He's gone. So then yes, and then I got you know, 209 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: it's eight in the morning, I don't get a rose 210 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: on and I remember standing up there, I'm like, I 211 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: can't believe I'm one of these guys because I remember 212 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: like seeing the show when I was a kid and 213 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: like being like home to get eliminated that first night, 214 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: nothing could be worse than that, and nothing was. I mean, 215 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 1: it was horrible, you know it was. It was like 216 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm I'm this guy right now, Like 217 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: I have to go back to Chicago and tell my 218 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: friends I came out on this reality show to find 219 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: love and get eliminated the first night. Explain that to people, 220 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: because I think everybody everybody looks at it as I know, 221 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: you're all like, I don't want to be the one 222 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: to go home that night. But explain, because there's so 223 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: much that goes into getting ready for the first night. 224 00:10:55,440 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: Then to go home that night, like explain kind of 225 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: like the I don't know how much we can get 226 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: into the process, but I guess the process. So you 227 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: don't get a rose, then what you have to pack 228 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: for two and a half months. Yeah, and this the 229 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: process has been going on for three or four months. 230 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: I didn't want to I was reluctant to do it 231 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: from the beginning. And then once you kind of like 232 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I'm gonna do this, then you're like 233 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: your whole heart's in it. You're like, I'm doing this. 234 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: It's like I'm going on TV and basically exposing myself. 235 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: Like here we go. You know. So it's it is 236 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: on regardless of what anyone says. Once you're once you 237 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: like go through casting and you feel like you're gonna 238 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: get it. It's on your mind every day. You're waking 239 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: up like I'm about to go on TV and do 240 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: this shit. So it's a lot and then you you know, 241 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: you try to look your best, you try to sound 242 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: your best. You know, you're like I don't want to 243 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: go home the first night because it's just a now 244 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm here, I want to do this. I want to 245 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: see what actually could happen, and it's just embarrassing, like 246 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: to get to go home the first night basically, I 247 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: mean like it's like, wow, this even though it's not 248 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: that bad if you really think about it. I mean, 249 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: thousands of people go through casting, you made the final cut. 250 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: It's really not that bad silver lining, but it does. 251 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: It feels it's just like, oh, I can't believe this 252 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: is it because when you I know, we're not supposed 253 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: to tell anybody, but obviously you tell your family that 254 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: you're leaving, you can tell close friends, and so then 255 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: you get kicked off and you're like I have to 256 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: go back and tell them that I went home the 257 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: first night. Yeah. Yeah. And I was also like I 258 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: was out of my group of friends. I was the 259 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: guy that was always out. I was the guy, the 260 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: single guy. I was the one that always had fun, 261 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: Like I was just kind of always out there doing 262 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: my thing. And now I'm like, oh my god, I 263 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: now I feel like I just feel like such a readjack, 264 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: Like this is horrible. But my flight to two pm, 265 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: and I want to get out of here sooner, so 266 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: I need you guys to switch my flight to ten 267 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: thirty am because it's Patrick's day in Chicago and I'm 268 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: going home, going out and getting wasted. You know who 269 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: has the second best? Saint Patrick's Day Dallas, Texas. Really Yeah, 270 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: I haven't been. I gotta try it. I will. So 271 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: I go to Chicago. I wake up, I got all 272 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: my suitcases out, and I'm like, Saint Patrick's Day. I 273 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: call my friend. It's like nine thirty in the morning. 274 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: You're like, meet me at the bar. And I kind 275 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: of like, you know what. I laughed about it, and 276 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I did it? So who cares? 277 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: So then, which is the best way to recover? Yeah, 278 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: from from getting kicked off to the show. And nobody knows, right, 279 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: nobody knows what your close family in France. So then 280 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: I walked into and not to cut you off, I 281 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: walked into a bar on Saint Patrick's Day. There was 282 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: a line around the block of Chicago is crazy. I 283 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: walked up to the girl. I said, listen, I was 284 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: just on the bedroom I kicked off the first night. 285 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: Let me in the fucking bar over the opened it 286 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: up like beautiful, See you were meant to do this. 287 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: And you know what else, I'm big on signs and 288 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: you're like I was at a grocery store. When you 289 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: were you were at a grocer store, when your approach 290 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: not your a grocery store, hopefully Yeah, And she asked me, 291 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: she goes, she goes, what do you do? I said, 292 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: I own a grocery store. She goes this one. I said, 293 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: if I owned this one, we wouldn't be having this conversation. 294 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, you're in a grocery store. You get approach, 295 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: you own a grocery store, you get this whole grocery 296 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: store Joe title. So what a couple of months passes? 297 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the timeline, if even that. Yeah, 298 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: about a couple of months, two and a half months, 299 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: first night airs, you go home, Then all of a 300 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: sudden everything changes for you. Right, did you expect America 301 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: to fall in love with you the way that they did? Oh? 302 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: God no? And why do you why do you think? 303 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: Because you said you were on TV for what a 304 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: minute and fifteen seconds? You already talked about your appearance 305 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: with the haircut, But for some reason America chose you 306 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: to fall in love with and to basically riot about, 307 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: like how could grocery store Joe go home? What do 308 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: you think it was? There was a few factors had 309 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: to your horn. I've been you know, I've been destroying myself. 310 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna build myself back up. Um, I am. 311 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm It's hard to say it, but I guess I'm real. 312 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: Like I'm going out there and I'm gonna be myself regardless. 313 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna play a role. 314 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do something that is uncomfortable with me, 315 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: doesn't sit well. I'm just gonna go there and be myself. 316 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: And I think when somebody is actually just who they are, 317 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: it's apparent. Um. Second of all, even though I had 318 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: a bad haircut, I'm still not you know, I'm still Yes, 319 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: you're attractive, say it for you, attractive man, And I 320 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: have a I have a good smile, you know, I've smile. 321 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: That's always love a smile. You know what else I 322 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: think it was you didn't say a lot. You know, 323 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: you are attractive, and I think people were curious about you. 324 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: And then you had grocery store Joe attached to it. 325 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: So there's this there's this tagline that goes with you. 326 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: So curiosity, You're mysterious. People wanted to know more about you. Yeah, 327 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: and then I think, back up, maybe she did an 328 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: interview or something because people were just inquiring about you. 329 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: She spoke so highly of you. Well, this is a 330 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: great this is actually a pretty funny story. I guess 331 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: I do, Yes, I do. Okay, So they I don't know. 332 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: So after all this happens and I get popular. I didn't. 333 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: I don't think. My brother's like, dude, you're trending on 334 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: Twitter all this stuff. So I'm like, okay, So I'm 335 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: getting popular on social media, which I never had social media. 336 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: They call me and they're gonna cast me on Bachelor 337 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: in Paradise. So it's like two days or it's a 338 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: few days before we're going out. Now I didn't know. 339 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: They told me literally last minute, Like they told me 340 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: on a Friday night and you're leaving Sunday morning. They 341 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: tell me Friday night, Saturday, I'm going to Bloomingdale's to 342 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: buy swim shorts from Paradise. Literally like okay, I don't 343 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: even have time to get a haircut. So I go. 344 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm so infatuated with this haircut thing. 345 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: So I go and get we're driving my friends in. 346 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: We're downtown Chicago, so I'm gonna hop out of the 347 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: car running the Bloomingdals. As I'm getting out of the car, 348 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: we see Becca walk into Bloomingdals in Chicago. Okay, I 349 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: thought that was playing see what I'm saying signs, see 350 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: how things are meant to be. So now we're like, 351 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: you have to go say something. So we go fight 352 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: like like creeps. We go fight there and Bloomingdales. I'm like, 353 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: what's up? She's like, oh my god. We take a picture. 354 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: Then I get Then I start getting my followings, really 355 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 1: starts going out. Then I left for Mexico, and then 356 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: I was on Paradise. Okay, Steph, is it just me 357 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: or does it seem like every day it's another day 358 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: and another workout tool, another tip, another app. I swear 359 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm always hearing about a different one. I don't even 360 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: know where to start. Me too, I had so many 361 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: apps on my iPhone I could not even keep track 362 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: of all the new ones. But I started using Noom 363 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: and it really takes everything I was using, and it happened. 364 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: It does it all in this one app. So I 365 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: can track my exercise calories, all these things that I 366 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: had different apps for, I do it all in this 367 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: Neom app. Now that sounds like it has everything I 368 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: need right there in that one app. So wait, explain 369 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: it to me because you've been using this for a 370 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: few months now, right, Yeah, I've been using in about 371 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: two months. It's really I love it so far. So 372 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: no food is off limits. That's huge for me because 373 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: if I can't have a bagel on Fridays upstairs we 374 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: have free bagels on Fridays, that's an issue for me. 375 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: I have to have my bagel Friday. So it's great 376 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: because it's all in the app. You just put in 377 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: what you eat. It's all about moderation and there's this 378 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: really great food database so I can track all my 379 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: food and it's really organized and it's awesome. Wait, so 380 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: you're telling me that no food is off limits nothing? Okay, 381 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: this sounds like my kind of app. I don't know 382 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: about you, guys, but I'm sold right now. It's just 383 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: off Stephanie telling me her story. So listen, what do 384 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: you have to lose? You heard it here from Steph. First, 385 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: you need a visit noom dot com slash bhh to 386 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: start your free that's right, guys, free trial today, So 387 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: you really have nothing to lose. Was because it's free. 388 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: That's Noom dot com slash BHH. One more time, just 389 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: in case you didn't hear me, I said free, you guys, 390 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: it's a free trial, so go to Noom dot com 391 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: slash b HH. So let's pick up from Paradise. Did 392 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: you have your eyes set on anyone? Because you said 393 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: you're like me, we didn't really watch the show before, 394 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: so I imagine you didn't know too many people coming 395 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: into Paradise. Well, were you looking for Kendall or were 396 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: you just like whatever? I was trying to make it 397 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: past the first night. Yeah, I just didn't want to 398 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: get eliminated the first the first night, I wasn't looking 399 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: for Kendall. She was the only one I was into. 400 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: Once I was there, and everyone that came in, like 401 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: we were open the whole time, Like we didn't really 402 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: you know, we were just getting to know each other. 403 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: So we were both down for if somebody comes in 404 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: you on a datum. Obviously you know you're not my girlfriend, 405 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 1: I'm not your boyfriend. It's just not what this is yet. 406 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: We're just getting to know each other. There was just 407 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: nobody I was really interested in going out with, and 408 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: she was. I found her entertaining and interesting and pretty, 409 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: and we were just she was just she was like 410 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: a friend, like she was becoming a friend. I'm like, 411 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: this is cool, okay, And that was it, so I 412 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: go on Paradise. We ended up. We broke up at 413 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: the end, which was which felt like the right thing 414 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: because I was going back to Chicago, she was going La. 415 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: And it just wasn't that strong. We weren't. We were 416 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: not that strong. We were like, we don't even know 417 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: if we actually want to date, but we're sexually attracted 418 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: to each other, so we do eventually went on sleep 419 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: with each other. It's interesting that you say you weren't 420 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: that strong, because watching it as a viewer, you guys 421 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: seem to be one of these strongest couples there. Yeah, 422 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: interesting to hear you say that, well, because we're strong 423 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: there and we're getting to know each other. But if 424 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: I go back to Chicago and she goes back to LA, 425 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: we're not gonna like, I don't want to do a 426 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: long discer relationship, and neither that she and it was 427 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't like that, like I wasn't like, Okay, I'm 428 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: committed to you, and vice versa. So what ends up 429 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: happening is we get off the show and then I'm like, 430 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: I actually now, once I got home, I'm like, oh, 431 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: maybe I actually did have really you know, maybe I'm 432 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: really into her, like I kind of miss her. And 433 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: then we decided like, okay, let's actually try this, so 434 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: we try it. I ended up getting casted on Dancing 435 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: with the Stars. That made it easier. It put me 436 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: in LA and we've basically been living together ever since. 437 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: See the signs get casted brings you to LA. You 438 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: don't even have to try. It was almost effortless. Things 439 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: just happened for you, for you guys to be together. 440 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: So what's life like for you now away from the camera. 441 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: You're living in LA, You're doing your thing, you got 442 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: a place together. Yeah, life now. So we Kendla and 443 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: I lived together in West Hollywood and it's it's great. 444 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we just were with each other. I never 445 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: thought I could be with a significant other for as 446 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: long as I'm with Kendall, like you know, during the day, 447 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: but she is, you know, every day she surprises me. 448 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: She's just a very interesting human and human I don't 449 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: know why I said that, because she's just she's just 450 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: you know, she just I just enjoy being with her 451 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: every day and it's just it's great. And then I 452 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: do I have a clothing line now that I started. 453 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: It's called Frown Clothing and we partnered with Smile Train. 454 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: I did that with Alan Burston, who's down Dancing with 455 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: the Stars. I have a lot of Dancing with the 456 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: Stars friends here, so we all hang out. Um, I 457 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: was by vals last night and we were playing video 458 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: games and watching football. So that's that was like a 459 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: really great experience for you. Yeah, that was a great experience. 460 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: And Kendall Kendall has her podcast, so she's doing her 461 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: thing and we just we're living a regular life. Does 462 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: Kendall still practice taxidermy? Does Kendall still Kendall actually bought 463 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: another piece of taxidermy yesterday and she put it in 464 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: the house and she told me this morning, can you 465 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 1: find the new taxidermy? So that was the thing that, um, 466 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: I forget. I think it's I think it's a bird. Yeah, 467 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: y'all have I hate Bird's dead or alive? Are all that? 468 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: All that? And stuff? I hate them both. I do 469 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: plan on stuff and Copper, who is in the studio 470 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: with us today, I do play as I'll need to 471 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: consult with Kendall, Like like, you just put me on 472 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: a plane for six hours. Now you're talking about stuff 473 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: and me will be together forever. I told you we're 474 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: too close. That's funny. So I love the way you 475 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: talk about your relationship with Kendall because nothing's exaggerated that 476 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: you don't sound like you're reading a script. You're just like, 477 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: she surprises me every day and I just enjoy being 478 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: around her. Just that simple. That's how it should be. 479 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: That's exactly how I would describe the relationship with Brian. 480 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's effortless. We don't even have to try. Yeah, 481 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: I think that was the biggest thing because I never 482 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: really had a serious relationship and I always felt like 483 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: if I can hang out with her the next day 484 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: and just be you know, if it's a friendship, that's 485 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: what I'm looking for, because that's what it's really all about. 486 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: Do you ever sit back, because this is I do 487 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: this with Brian still and we're two plus years, two 488 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: years in at this point, do you ever sit back 489 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: and you're like, I cannot believe I met this person 490 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: on a reality TV show. Great question, Not really only when, 491 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: like when we go do bachelor things, like when we 492 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: went to Paradise for the wedding Kristen Crystal's wedding, it 493 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: was like, I can't believe we met on this show, 494 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, because you were probably looking around like look 495 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: at these people. Yeah yeah, I know you look at everyone, 496 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: look at these people. And we met and we made 497 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: it out of this. We survived this. That's how That's 498 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: how I think of it. It's just it's crazy. It 499 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: is lightning in a bottle. Yeah, it's you know, you 500 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: look at you look at the contestants and batter Nation, 501 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: and you know they're all different. But it's hard to 502 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: be successful outside of all of this because the odds 503 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: really are against you. You know, you're you're dating in public. 504 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: You're dating in public, especially when you when you're popular 505 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: off the show. You know, you have everyone's trying to, 506 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: you know, meet you or date you or not everyone. 507 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: I take that back, not everyone, but you are, all 508 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you have like this, it's not fame, 509 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: but you have this popularity that you didn't have before, 510 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: like no one did, and so like all of a sudden, 511 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: you're like, you know, I was going on a show 512 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: looking for love and now it's like you you could 513 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: date so many different people like you could do that, 514 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: But for me, that's just not what I wanted. I 515 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: actually believe it or not. Was kind of there for 516 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: the right reasons, which was too fine love and I 517 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: didn't even know that at the time. Yeah, I mean, 518 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: I think that's why it worked. I always say, it's 519 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: the people who come in and are like, I'm going 520 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: to meet my husband or my wife. That's not realistic. 521 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: I think you just have to be open to whatever 522 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: can happen and just see how it goes and take 523 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: it day by day. Those are the most successful couples. 524 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: Do you hang out a lot with Batchelor Nation people? 525 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: I hang out with Not a lot. I don't. Jason 526 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: was just in town. I hung out with Jason. I 527 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: really like Jason and Kaitlin. I've hung out with like 528 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: the guys that live in LA like Nick and Jared. 529 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: I've hung out with them a few times, you know, 530 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: watch football, but for the most part, not a lot. 531 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: Now I don't either, Yea, And I feel like sometimes 532 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm interested in your thoughts on that you get flak 533 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: from it because for me, I look at and we 534 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: have blake on the podcast and Blake was saying family 535 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, it's 536 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: not family. It's like a fraternity and a sorority high school. Yeah, 537 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: and all went through this experience together, so we all 538 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: share that. But I don't find the need to be 539 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: friends with every single person that comes out of Bachelnation. 540 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: Friendly okay, of course, friendly with everyone, friendly with everyone, right, 541 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: but friends, No, I just don't think it's realistic. And 542 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: I think sometimes and I'm interested in your thoughts on that, 543 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: because I feel like we think, we think a lot. Yeah, 544 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: we're similar. I don't. I don't feel the need to 545 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: be besties or comment on everybody's post or feel like 546 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: and so sometimes I get looked at as I'm not 547 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: a girls girl. But it's like, I'm very close with 548 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: the girls I was on Nick season with, Yeah, very 549 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: cool with him. And Brian's cool with the guys he 550 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: was on my season with, and they were all at 551 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: the wedding. But I don't feel the need to be 552 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: everybody's best friend. Oh you know what, I hang out 553 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: with Eric a lot. Eric's gray Er. I hang out 554 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: with Eric a lot pretty much. I probably hang out 555 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: with him out of in Bachelination the most um I 556 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: I personally in this can be wrong. I feel like 557 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: people through the term friend around too lightly. I have 558 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: friends that have been my friends since I've been a kid. 559 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: They're people I trust. If I'm ever going to rob 560 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: a bank, that's who I'm robbing it with. That's a 561 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: bad explanation, don't air that. But I I want to 562 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: trust my friends, and I think most of people in 563 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: vater Nation, everyone I've met has been great. They're all nice. 564 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: I don't have any issues with them. I would go 565 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: grab a drink with pretty much anyone and then we 566 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: could see if we hit it off and we become friends. 567 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: But I'm not going to just say because you were 568 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: on the same show that I was on, that now 569 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: we are really we're a family, because we're not family. Right. 570 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 1: You wouldn't invite them to your wedding? Yeah? All of them? 571 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't invite most of 572 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: them to my wedding, and I wouldn't consider any of 573 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: them family. I would say there's a few. There's a 574 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: handful of people from bachel Nation that I consider friends. 575 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: Everybody else I think it is cool. I like them, 576 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: and I have no problem hanging out with anyone getting 577 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: to know them better. But until I do that, I'm 578 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: not going to just be like, yeah, because we're on 579 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: the same show, we're tight, because we're not because we 580 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 1: don't know each other. Yeah, and that's fake. Yeah I'm 581 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: not fake. I'm not either, And I feel like that 582 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: sometimes the lines get blurred like that between when it 583 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: comes to fans and how they watch certain things, and 584 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: you look like your stant office or you're just not 585 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: a team player, and it's like, no, you know you 586 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: have friends before the show and those are the people 587 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: like you said you do from a banquet, but you 588 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: are friendly with everybody, but it doesn't mean that you 589 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: have to be best friends. Totally agree on that. So 590 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: since you have just created this own path, your own 591 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: path in regards to what a first Snyder has never 592 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: done before and probably never will do again, in do 593 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: other first Sniders contact you and are like, hey, man, 594 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: you know, how how did you do it? How can 595 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: I get on Dancing with the Stars? I know they do. 596 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: I know they slide in your DMS, so I don't 597 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: really check my DMS. But I really don't love Joe. 598 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: I really don't check my DMS. There are a few people, 599 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: a few contestants from this season reached out to me. Um, 600 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: I don't want you to name names, but did they 601 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: say how did you do it? Did they want advice? 602 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: They they kind of asked, well, they ask for advice, 603 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: which I have no problem getting giving because it is 604 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: confusing once you're on it. Um, that kid, I mean, 605 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: I'll just say his name. That kid that got kicked 606 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: off the first night, Matt McDonald. Oh, but he's on Paradise. 607 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: He was on Paradise. He before he went to Paradise. 608 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: I didn't see it, and then he DM me again 609 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: and then I saw it. But he had asked me, 610 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, for my advice when he went on there, 611 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: but he wasn't asking it for like how do I get, 612 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, casting on Dance the Stars. She's like, do 613 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: you have any advice for me? And I just told him, yeah, 614 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: go out there, have fun and be yourself. Yeah, enjoy it. 615 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: Did you watch him on it? I did? Do you 616 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: think that he was himself? I think that he said 617 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: son of a beasting. He might be my favorite line 618 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: of so from what I watched with him, he seems 619 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: like a really nice guy. He seemed like he kind 620 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: of got caught up a little bit with like he 621 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: kept calling the one girl a supermodel, like I can't 622 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: believe like a date a supermodel, And I think he 623 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: kind of And it seemed like the one other girl 624 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: that he was dating, I'm bad with names. The other 625 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: girl that didn't okay, yeah, it seemed like she was. 626 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: It seemed like she could be into him, and she 627 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: seemed like she's perfect for him, like she's she's very attractive, 628 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: she seemed intelligent. They seem to like each other. And 629 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: I think he might have got caught up a little 630 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: bit in like, oh man, I'm like in the and 631 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: my famous kind of thing, like wow, I could date 632 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: this supermodel. And I think he screwed up personally. Old 633 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: Matt Donald. Is that his name, Matt Matt, I don't know. 634 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: I think it's Matt Donald. He is epitomizes why I 635 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: think the bachelors are not successful as successful as the 636 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: bachelorettes on the show. I always say that the women 637 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: do a better job of saying, you know what, this 638 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: person would work with me in real life. This you 639 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: have to think outside of the bachelor bubble. I think 640 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: the men pick the woman that they couldn't get in 641 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: real life, or the one they fantasize about, or their 642 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: dream girl. And that's when I see what Matt went 643 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: through or Mac whatever it is. Um, when I see 644 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: what he went through, I'm like, that's what people get 645 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 1: caught up. And he went after that girl and then 646 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: she told him, no, you see me as just a model. No, 647 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't want you. Guys have two brains. You got 648 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: to follow the right way, yes, yes, and and oftentimes 649 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: they don't. Right, yea, right, we know. Okay, Hannah's on 650 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. Is that Wait, you went on 651 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars and then Hannah was right after you. 652 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: There hasn't been anybody in between, right, No, it was 653 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: me and then Hannah. I hear. It's a really rigorous 654 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: like competition. Okay. Dancing with the Stars was one of 655 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: the best experiences of my life. It was great. Dancing 656 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: with the Stars was awesome. I became so Hannah's partner. Now, 657 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: Alan is one of my best friends in la and 658 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: he we have a coldony line together. But you become 659 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: like all the dancers, every celebrity that was on the show, 660 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: the production, everyone is so cool and very friendly, so 661 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: It's just a great experience for me. And then the 662 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: tour was even better. The tour was so much fun. 663 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: Are you required to do the tour? Everybody has to 664 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: do it? No, So I was. I got cast to 665 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: host a tour for four weeks, and the guy following me, 666 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: he was five weeks after me. He got hurt, so 667 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: I stayed on. So I ended up doing it for 668 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: like two months, a little over two months. How far 669 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: did you make it on Dancing with the Stars. Dancing 670 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: with the Stars, I made it to the semifinals and 671 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: had and I got destroyed by the judges every week. 672 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: I do remember that. Yeah, but you were a fan favorite. 673 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: So wait, simi semifinals is top four? Top five? Was good? 674 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,959 Speaker 1: Hey you were doing something right? Yeah, I mean people 675 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: were voting. Well, there was a lot of good dancers 676 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: on that show from the beginning of performers, and I 677 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: wasn't good. Like now, I have no problem in minting 678 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: that I was not a good dancer. I was uncomfortable 679 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: and I was never a dancer to begin with. So 680 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: I sucked, but I got better do So do you 681 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: think you're a good dancer now? Well, I mean I'm 682 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: professionally trained Rachel, Right, I am going to be honest. 683 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: Any club I walk into, for the most part, I 684 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: have more training ninety percent of the people, and you 685 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: also have more pressure. They're expect big things because you 686 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: are professionally trained. So she want to throw that out there. 687 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: Professionally trade by Jenna Johnson. So do you still watch 688 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: the show? And I watch it now because yeah, I'm 689 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: friends with most of the dancers. How's Hannah doing, Hannah. 690 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: I think she's doing really really, Hannah's doing great. Yeah, 691 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: from what I've seen, I haven't actually watched it, but 692 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: I've seen her, Yeah, and she's doing well. It seems 693 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: like she's one of the favorites. Yeah, for sure. I 694 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of competition though on her season 695 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: right now, Like there are a lot of good dancers. Yeah. 696 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: So since you have so many friends on Dancing with 697 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: the Stars, it'd be nice if you could just say, 698 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, my friend Rachel would kill this show. You probably, Yeah, 699 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: I will, I'll text someone after the show. I was like, no, 700 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: I want to focus on my relationship and I do 701 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: not regret that decision. But now people are like, how's 702 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: Hannah doing? Would you do it? Yeah? Why would I? 703 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: Not do it. Ye know, it's great you should. You'd 704 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: probably be really I think my time has passed, you know, 705 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: so I just put my energy behind Hannah and support 706 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 1: her because she's killing it. We've been asking our listeners 707 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: to email us and give us their thoughts and opinions 708 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: about the podcast, the good and the bad, because I 709 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: want to hear both sides. But then at the same 710 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: time just asking us for advice on certain things, and 711 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: I feel like we keep it real. So you'd be 712 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: really good at answering some of these emails. So if 713 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: you'll stick around, we'll get to them right after the break. 714 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: All right, Joe, let's get into these emails. I haven't 715 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: read them before because I want to give a fresh opinion. 716 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: I want to answer them right off the top of 717 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: my head. You're going to do the same. You haven't 718 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: looked at them either, So here we go, good and 719 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: the bad, remember that, all right. First email comes from 720 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: Jessica V. She says, I'm a big fan of the podcast. Thanks, Jess. 721 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: I really love the interview with Blake. I know you 722 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: guys have talked about this a little on the podcast, 723 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: but I'm curious what it's like after the camera stopped 724 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: rolling on the show. Was there anything you realize was 725 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: different with your partner after filming stopped? And what's the 726 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: hardest part about going from dating on TV to dating 727 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: in the normal world. I feel like we can't answer 728 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: that last question because we're with the people that we 729 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah that unless Joe where you did you date somebody 730 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: in between Batchette and bat and Paradise? No? Okay, I didn't, 731 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: all right, So first question that she asked was was 732 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: there anything you realize was different with your partner after 733 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: filming stopped? Okay, I'll answer this, of course, because you 734 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: only know this person for a short period of time. 735 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: You only could only know so much about somebody in 736 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: two weeks or three weeks, however long it is, and 737 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: then once you actually live with them, you learn so 738 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: many different things and habits. So yeah, yeah, no, no, 739 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: same for me. Um. Interesting when when I said yes 740 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: to Brian, Brian you see watch Brian on my season. 741 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: He was like kind of portrayed as this rico, suave, 742 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: smooth operators said all the right things and very outgoing, 743 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: and in real life he is quiet, he's he's talks 744 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: to me, but in like a big room, he's quiet, 745 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: he's more reserved. He watches and I didn't know that 746 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: about him until after the show was over. But I 747 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: definitely say it's it's different, but for the better. You know, 748 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: because there's no camera in your face, you're not having 749 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: trying to I don't want to say perform, but feel 750 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: like you have to say certain things. You can just 751 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: completely be yourself, which some people that's good and some 752 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 1: people that's bad. For us, it worked out. We can't 753 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: really answer what's the hardest part about what's the hardest 754 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: part about going from dating on TV to dating in 755 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: the normal world. Oh, we can answer that, Okay, right 756 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: for it. Joe dating on TV and dating and there's 757 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: no cameras and it's as simple as that. I mean, 758 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: you're not you're not. There's no camera in your face, 759 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: and you could be. Everyone's gonna be a little reserved 760 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: on camera. Yeah, that's just what it is. So you're 761 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: more open and you talk about more per sal life 762 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: experiences and just more shit about yourself when you're not 763 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: on TV, so you really really get to know someone. Yeah, 764 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: if we're talking about the hardest part dating on TV 765 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: in regards to The Bachelor, I'd say when you're on 766 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, Bachelor, atte whatever, you're protected. You're in this 767 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: bubble where you're dating in these set dates and everything 768 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: is planned for you, and then you go to the 769 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: normal world and it's completely different. So I think you 770 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: go from fantasy to reality, and that can be hard 771 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: sometimes because it's reality. Yeah, and the food's free on 772 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: the show and it's not in real life. Yeah, all right, 773 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: next email. Okay, Erica emailed in Paradise tajawand I believe 774 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: Tajuan kept telling JPJ not to eat the date food. 775 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,479 Speaker 1: What's that about? What's the actual deal with the date food? 776 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: Is it just for looks? Can we answer that? Yeah? Okay, 777 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: I believe the date food is just for looks. I 778 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: don't think they want people to be chewing food on 779 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: a date, so I think it's kind of just for looks. 780 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: And then we are well fed. There's a bar there. 781 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: There's a bar that you could eat whenever you want. 782 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: So when you go on a date, it's really just 783 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 1: about talking and getting to know that person, not about 784 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: the food. Absolutely, that's right. I was told America does 785 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: not want to see you eat because people smack they 786 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: talk with food in their mouth. That's not cute. You know, 787 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: we're supposed to be put together. I remember on my 788 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: date with Nick, we were eating bignets and they let 789 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: us eat them because we were New Orleans for the Culture, 790 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: and we had powder all over our mouths. We were smacking, 791 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,720 Speaker 1: we couldn't talk to each other. It was not pretty. 792 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: And I remember being like, Okay, I get it. Yeah, 793 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: I guess did you go to the famous place in 794 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: New Orleans for those what's it called Kathay Dumont? Yeah, 795 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: I get that right, Yes, you got it right, New 796 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: Orleans Culture got it. But yes, that's a very common 797 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: question we get about the food. It's usually cold when 798 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: it's in front of us. You don't want to eat 799 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: it anyway. Yes, it is just for show. And if 800 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: you want to watch people eat, just follow me on 801 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: Instagram because that's all I do on my Instagram is 802 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 1: eat food. There you go. Um, okay, next up, Steph 803 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: s She says, I love the podcast, Thank you very much. 804 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: My question is do you speed up the talking to 805 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: fit everything in, because sometimes they're talking so fast you 806 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: really have to listen carefully to catch everything that's actually funny. 807 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: I think I've talked slow when I think I talk 808 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: fast in person, but when I hear it back, I 809 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: think it's slow. Make sure you don't have the speed 810 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: up when you're listening to the podcast. But we definitely 811 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: don't talk faster to fit everything in. It is a 812 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: lot of information. We do try to keep it under 813 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: an hour, but nope, we don't. I mean, I'm not 814 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: speed talking here, so you'll be the test. Yeah, so 815 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: Steph listening. Hopefully you're listening to this one. And maybe 816 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: maybe I just talk fast. Maybe it is just me. 817 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: I think you talk at a pretty good pace. Okay, 818 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: all right, Magna emailed Rachel. I really didn't like how 819 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 1: much hate in shade you were throwing at Kaylin during 820 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: the first interview M but thought I would give you 821 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt and listen to part two. 822 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: Kaylin is not great, no doubt, but this perpetual and 823 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: ongoing attack on her is a bad look. Really left 824 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 1: a bad taste in my mouth. Oh, Magna's coming at you, Rachel, 825 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: and I'm glad she did because she's not alone. There've 826 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: been a lot of people who phil I am on 827 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 1: this Kaylin hate train, and I find it so interesting 828 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: because the podcast is called Bachelor happy Hour, so we 829 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: talk about the characters with in bachronation. And so we 830 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: started this podcast talking about bathroom Paradise. Well, Kaylin was 831 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: a hot topic, and she wasn't the only person I 832 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: talk about. And I will admit, Okay, you got to 833 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: say when you're wrong. When I during the Dean interview, 834 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: I do feel like I was a little harsh rather 835 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 1: than I like to deal in logic and facts and reason, 836 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: and maybe I was a little bit too opinionated in 837 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: the Dean interview. So I'll own that, but I still 838 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: stand by, you know, my beliefs and how the Kaylin 839 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: and Blake situation panned out, and I do I've always 840 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 1: said I believe they're both wrong, and I've explained the 841 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: reasons for both. But I think that the whole Kalen 842 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: thing is really being blown out of proportion. You know, 843 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: now I'm being accused of not uplifting women, and everyone's 844 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: saying each podcast thereafter has been bashing Kalin and I 845 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 1: continue to bash people on the podcast, and that could 846 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 1: not be farther from the truth. I mean, we've done 847 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: thirteen episodes and we've had Tasia, Nicole, Hannah Ali. I 848 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 1: can't even think of all the women we've had on 849 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: this show, and I've Christina Demi, and I've not bashed them, 850 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: you know. So I do not agree with the way 851 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: that Kaylin was on the show, but it's not necessarily bashing. 852 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: It's just more talking about what happened. But yeah, I 853 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: could keep going on that, but it's I definitely don't 854 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 1: hate Kaylin. I just didn't agree with what she did, 855 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: and patch were in Paradise is over at this point, 856 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: so I don't have to really talk about it anymore. 857 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: So don't worry about that. Continue to listen. It's not 858 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: a bash vest it's just a place where we can 859 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: have open discussion. Take that, Magna. No, she just dropped 860 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: the mic on you. Cool. So we've got mema Patty 861 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: on Facebook. I hope I'm saying that right. She asked, 862 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: does Batchel Nation ever go back to work? How come 863 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: everybody's always traveling? That is a great question, Joe, take 864 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: it away. Well, I mean in my case, I don't. 865 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: I can't speak for everyone, but in my case, I 866 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: had to leave my job because I got casting on 867 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: other shows and I danced for eight months out of 868 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: the here, so I didn't really have a choice. But 869 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, you get paid well when you do the 870 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: other shows, and then you have to figure things out 871 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 1: and once you have a following on Instagram, you could 872 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: parlay it into something else. People make a lot of 873 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: money doing ads. I personally don't do too many, but 874 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: people make a lot of money doing ads, and with 875 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: that money, it seems like they take it and they 876 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,399 Speaker 1: travel and they have a lot of fun. So people 877 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:48,399 Speaker 1: try to enjoy. People enjoy the life after the Bachelor. Yeah, 878 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: I think I every post I post on Instagram, somebody 879 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: asked me, do you still work as a lawyer? Are 880 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: you still an attorney? And it's a legitimate question. I 881 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: get it, and it was I actually don't practice anymore. 882 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: But right after the show, right after Bachelor, I went 883 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: right back to work. Right after Bachelorette, I was still working. 884 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: I just stopped working as an attorney in December of 885 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: last year. But it doesn't mean that I'm not working. 886 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 1: It just means my line of work has changed. And 887 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 1: I think that what people don't realize is you're given 888 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 1: this platform and this opportunity, and so you take advantage 889 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: of that in whatever way that might be. For me. 890 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 1: I've decided to move into TV and radio, among other things. 891 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: And for each other Bachelor contestant, their path is different. 892 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: So it's not that we're not working. It's just, you know, 893 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: your life changes when you do this whole thing. It's 894 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: turned upside down, so you know, use it for what 895 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 1: you want to. But I I'm going to stop there. Yeah, yeah, 896 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: Pamela emailed Hi, Pamela, I would love some insights on 897 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison. What's his role in the storyline. He comes 898 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: off as sincere, but does he really care or is 899 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: it part of production? What's the backstory here? Okay, great question. 900 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: I can only answer from my personal experience. But Chris 901 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: Harrison seems like a great guy. He's you know, you know, 902 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: he's he's just he's a man's man. He's cool. Like 903 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: I get along with Chris Harrison. I don't know him 904 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: too well. I don't know if he really cares. I 905 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: think the people that he is close with he really 906 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: cares about, and the people that he's not close close 907 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: with he probably doesn't really care. But he doesn't you know, 908 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: I don't think he wants to hurt anyone. No, Yeah, 909 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: people come and go on the show, so he can 910 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 1: only get close to so many people. When you're a contestant, 911 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: you're not around Chris Harrison except when he pops out 912 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: to tell you there's a cocktail party, there isn't one, 913 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: or there's a rose ceremony or some other crazy announcement. 914 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,439 Speaker 1: But when you're the lead, you do get to spend 915 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: more time with Chris Harrison, so I can speak to 916 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: that point of view or that perspective, and I think 917 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 1: Chris is great. He is a straight shooter, He is direct, 918 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: and I love to be around people that are like that. 919 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: And I will say that Chris definitely does care, because 920 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: I would talk to him a lot off camera, and 921 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: even if whether it was about career or life in general, 922 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 1: or just your world has turned upside down so you're 923 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: confused as to how you're going to navigate this whole thing, 924 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: he is very not just informative, but just really willing 925 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: to listen and to give you advice on how to 926 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 1: move forward after the show, and so I definitely can 927 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: say that he absolutely cares. Next, we have an email 928 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: from Ashby. Ashby says, I'd love to hear more about 929 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: what they think about everything being said of all the 930 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: girls in Pete's season. I definitely want to know more 931 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,800 Speaker 1: about how Rachel feels, about what roles social media plays, 932 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,800 Speaker 1: and our perceptions of the cast members even before we 933 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: actually see them on the show, and how that speaks 934 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: about whether they are in it for the right reasons. Well, Ashby, 935 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: I'll say you couldn't be talking to two worse people, 936 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: because I guarantee you Joe has heard nothing about the 937 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: girls in Pete's season. Nothing. I have no clue what 938 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 1: they mean, and I haven't either. I haven't. I know 939 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: they've released the cast members pictures early. I didn't look 940 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: at a single one of them. I just know that 941 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: they do that because honestly, I don't want to I 942 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: don't want to know before I truly want to watch 943 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: it fresh. Even though it's hard to not be spoiled 944 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: these days, I don't want to know. I don't want 945 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: to be tainted. I don't want to have preconceived notions 946 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,919 Speaker 1: about these contestants. So I have no idea. I've heard 947 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: inklings about some things, have you, Joe? No? No. I 948 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 1: have heard that there are some paget girls, which I'm like, 949 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: really didn't that is so l y as people say, 950 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 1: that is so last year? Can we not have another 951 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 1: Paget Girls storyline. I'm hoping that's not the case. When 952 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 1: you say, Ashby, are people in it for the right reasons, 953 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: and you mentioned social media, I'm guessing they're a lot 954 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: of people who maybe aren't employed or maybe have their influencer. No, no, no, 955 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,399 Speaker 1: there will be people don't own grocery stores. That's why 956 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: people like you too, the right reasons. I want to 957 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 1: touch on that because let's just call it how it is. 958 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: Nobody really what is the right reason anyways to just 959 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: get married? I mean, no one goes on the show 960 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: for the right real like, everyone has an agenda. I 961 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: don't care what anyone says. That's true. But you could 962 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 1: actually fall in love on the show, and if you're open, 963 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: if you leave yourself open the falling in love, then 964 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: you're there for the right reasons, even if you kind 965 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: of went there. Like social media is what it is, 966 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 1: Instagram's big. People can make a living off Instagram and 967 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 1: Bachelor Nations. Instagram following is crazy. So I would say 968 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: majority of the people that go on the show are 969 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: going on to get popular on Instagram. That doesn't mean 970 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: they're not trying to fall in love, but it means 971 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: they're going to get popular on Instagram and if they 972 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: fall in love, great, that's my personal opinion, and I 973 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: think and I think you're right, And I think that 974 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,399 Speaker 1: that's what's hard as a viewer to watch this show 975 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: right now because you're seeing as they've already released the 976 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: cast members, and you see what they do, and maybe 977 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 1: you see social media influencer or you've found them on 978 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: social media and you see that their entire feed looks 979 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 1: like they want to increase their following. That's hard if 980 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,439 Speaker 1: you're a viewer and you're watching this show, because you're like, well, 981 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: are you just on the show? For that reason, I 982 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 1: think it's easier to believe because when you're watching TV. 983 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: I watch reality TV and other shows, and you do 984 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: want to buy into this fantasy. Like I'm a Housewife fan. 985 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: I want to believe that these are the true storylines 986 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: and they are not setting them up in these positions. 987 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: So when if I'm a fan of The Bachelor, I 988 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 1: want to believe that people are really going on here 989 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: because you know what, nothing else has worked for them 990 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,800 Speaker 1: and so they just want to see if maybe this 991 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: is a way to meet somebody. And I think that 992 00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:00,399 Speaker 1: that's more believable when they have a legitimate job. Yeah, 993 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 1: and I think sure. So I think that that's what's 994 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 1: hard is you're continuing to see people who aren't who 995 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: don't do anything. Yeah, and so it's like, uh, I 996 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: guess I'll just go on the Bachelor, you know, and 997 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: and grow my social media falling. That's what it looks like. 998 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 1: So it seems very disingenuous, but you have and you 999 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: also have to have some respect for casting because they 1000 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: are casting people who are good people for the most part, 1001 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: and they are casting they're not They're not stupid. They 1002 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: know when somebody's literally going on there just to be popular. 1003 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 1: They know that, and those people they probably don't cast, right. 1004 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,839 Speaker 1: I don't know Jed got casted? Yeah, I mean yeah, 1005 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: but Jed honesty, I had to. It was the low 1006 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 1: hanging fruit I had to. But yeah, Jed, I mean 1007 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: Jesus man, I mean, I don't know what like he 1008 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 1: he didn't sugarcord it at all. He's like, I'm going 1009 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 1: on here, I'm trying to build up my music or 1010 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: and they let that happen. What did you think of that? 1011 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 1: What did you think when he said if you if 1012 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: you saw this, when he said I'm going on this show. 1013 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 1: I came on this show to further my music career. 1014 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 1: What was your initial thought would you if if a 1015 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: girl told you that, would you have sent her home? 1016 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: If if I was the lead and the girl said 1017 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: I came on here at the further my music career, 1018 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: I would have sent her home the same I would. 1019 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,280 Speaker 1: I would say, Okay, you're you're gone. Um. The fact 1020 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: that he said it, I can't. I mean, I don't 1021 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: have an issue with him saying it because he's just 1022 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: being honest. Sure, and he could still be there to 1023 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,359 Speaker 1: further his music career and also fall in love at 1024 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 1: the same time. But I mean he probably shouldn't know 1025 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 1: what on there with a girlfriend. I mean that he 1026 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 1: shouldn't have did um. But yeah, it seemed like he 1027 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 1: was constantly playing the guitar. So some people slipped through 1028 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 1: the cracks. You know, some people they can't they can't 1029 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,879 Speaker 1: always get it right. But you are right to come 1030 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,399 Speaker 1: in casting because they do do a really good job. 1031 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,760 Speaker 1: And I think that Listen, we live in a different 1032 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 1: age right now. Being an influencer is a job these days, 1033 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 1: and so whether you like it or not, you just 1034 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 1: have to accept it. And it doesn't mean that they 1035 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: aren't genuine when they come on the show. You know, 1036 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 1: maybe they are trying to grow their following, but that 1037 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they can't still be open for love. 1038 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: I know it's a hard pill to swallow, but it 1039 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,800 Speaker 1: is a legitimate job and people make legit money. So 1040 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: I think you should go on the show. I think 1041 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: it's better off they cast people with regular jobs. And 1042 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: then what happens after that? You know, you have no 1043 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: control no one, No one does because you don't know 1044 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 1: how popular you're gonna get. You don't know if you're 1045 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,439 Speaker 1: gonna get cast in on something else. You get thrown 1046 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: into this different world and you try to make the 1047 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,879 Speaker 1: best of it. All right, Joe, you've been great. We've 1048 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: had a good time. Always appreciate hanging with you. But 1049 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: before I let you go, you're always instagramming photos and 1050 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: videos of food. So we thought we'd play a little 1051 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: go ahead and plug it. What's it gonna be called? 1052 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 1: It's untitled right now, but it's probably like I don't 1053 00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: know yet. Maybe it might be like let's go eat 1054 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 1: or something, but I don't know. I haven't figured it 1055 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 1: out yet. Yeah, no, I'm here for it. Filing tomorrow. 1056 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,840 Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, so we're right on brand. We 1057 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 1: thought it'd be fun to play a fire round of 1058 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 1: this or that, and it is the food editions. So 1059 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: are you up for this? I'm ready. We might be 1060 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: giving you ideas for your YouTube channel. There you go, 1061 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: all right, here we go real quick. First thing that 1062 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: comes to mind than crust or thick crust pizza. Then 1063 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 1: Chicago or New York style New York. I don't even 1064 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,439 Speaker 1: know the difference between the two. Stay in and cook 1065 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 1: or eat out both? Okay, that is not an option, 1066 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 1: is I mean? Obviously can you cook? Um? I could 1067 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 1: cook and Kendall cook cook. So I do like I 1068 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,919 Speaker 1: do like staying in and eating, but we do eat 1069 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 1: out a lot. Will your YouTube channel give cooking lessons? 1070 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 1: It might? It needs to because for us, yeah, it's 1071 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,959 Speaker 1: open beer or wine, beer, cheeseburger or cheese fries, cheeseburger 1072 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: bagels are donuts, ice cream or frozen yogen yo, apple 1073 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 1: pie or pumpkin pie, pumpkin pie, yuck, tacos are Actually 1074 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't like, to be honest, I don't like apple 1075 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 1: pie or pumpkin pie. Pumpkin has no flavor. That's not true. Pumpkins, 1076 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: pumpkins savory sweet. I don't know. I guess it depends 1077 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 1: on the pumpkin. Yeah, it's pretty bland. Me. Tacos are case? 1078 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: Is tacos green juice or clearly? I don't drink kombucha, okay, 1079 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 1: green juice or kombucha only because I'm lazy and I 1080 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: don't want to wait for the green juice to be made. 1081 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,240 Speaker 1: But I prefer the green juice sectionally to me. Sorry, hopefully, 1082 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 1: don't especially when you get that little especially when you 1083 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 1: get the booger at the end of it that you 1084 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 1: just slurp up and it's, oh, yeah, I guess I 1085 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:50,320 Speaker 1: never got that far. Oh god, It's just like, is 1086 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 1: it the bucha? It's I guess I want to like 1087 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,720 Speaker 1: ferments and it's like the slimy part. It's actually supposed 1088 00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 1: to be good for you, but it's it's gross. Okay, 1089 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: food in Chicago or food in La. I'm gonna get 1090 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 1: a lot of hate for this, but I'm gonna say 1091 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,320 Speaker 1: LA's got better restaurants than Chicago. You must be on 1092 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: a health kick. I'm not on a health kick. La. 1093 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 1: He's got no listen. I'm from Chicago. I love Chicago. 1094 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 1: We have great restaurants, great food, but La has some 1095 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: of my favorite restaurants. All right, well, thank you for 1096 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: playing this fire round of this or that the food 1097 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: edition you my pleasure. As I said, you're more than 1098 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: welcome to take that game for your YouTube channel. You 1099 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: should have me on. I'm a picky eater. I would 1100 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 1: have going to I would have said no to all 1101 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: of these things you don't like you do only I 1102 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,919 Speaker 1: don't dairy, I don't know, I don't. I mean, I'll 1103 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 1: eat it, but in a weird way. No cheese, no 1104 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: ice cream, no frozen yogurt, no apple pie. You'd be great. 1105 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 1: You'd be great for the show you had me like 1106 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 1: Blind Taste Food and Blind Taste Show. Okay, anyways, Joe, 1107 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: it's been so great to have you. Thank you so 1108 00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: much for co hosting with me today. You have to 1109 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: back on Bachelor Happy Hour. We'd love to have you. 1110 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 1: I'll be back whenever you want me. Those are my pleasure. 1111 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. Rachel. All right, and don't forget 1112 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: you can get all of the latest Bachelor Nation news 1113 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: on bachelornation dot com right now, and we want to 1114 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 1: hear from you. We might even read one of your 1115 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 1: emails on the show, so make sure you tell us 1116 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 1: what you like and what you don't like about the show. Clearly, 1117 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 1: you guys don't have a problem holding back and we 1118 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Tell us more of what you want to hear, 1119 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 1: and you can email us at happy hour at Bachelor 1120 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: nation dot com or visit Bachelor nation dot com and 1121 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: click podcasts and