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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 2: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.

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Speaker 1: We are a sibling.

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Speaker 2: Raivalry. No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth. Revelry.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 2: Bronco. Bronco is my dog. He's a German Shorthair pointer

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Speaker 2: and he never leaves my side. He's a little bit anxious,

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Speaker 2: but he is deeply and madly in love with me,

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Speaker 2: and I am too, so reciprocated and he just sort

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Speaker 2: of follows me around and I love him. And then

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Speaker 2: I have got donut. As some of you might know

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Speaker 2: if you listen to sort of I think my Father's

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Speaker 2: Day episode, he was bothering me. Donut is my bulldog.

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Speaker 2: He's a dumb, dumb but he's a sweetie. I think

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Speaker 2: he's nine almost nine. Started to slow down a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Bulldogs don't live that long. But I think he's gonna

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Speaker 2: think he's gonna do pretty good here. Anyways, me, it's

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Speaker 2: all Aiver Hudson. If he didn't already know, I just

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Speaker 2: got back from New York City. I was doing the

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Speaker 2: Drew Berrymore show. I had a blast talking relationships, talking

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Speaker 2: about love with my Manta Diggs. It was fun. I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think I want to do a daytime

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Speaker 2: talk show. I think this is what I'm leaning leaning towards.

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Speaker 2: Do I love being an actor, yeah? Sure, Do I

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Speaker 2: love producing? Yeah? I love it all. We're in a

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Speaker 2: world now, this business, where we need to pivot, you know,

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Speaker 2: we need different avenues. We've got to supplement, We've got

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Speaker 2: to figure out what else we love. And I do

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Speaker 2: like talking to people. I do like giving my armchair advice,

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Speaker 2: even though I don't use my own advice half the time.

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Speaker 2: But I could talk more about myself. But I think

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Speaker 2: we got a couple of amazing guests in the waiting room,

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Speaker 2: Brandy and Tish Cyrus. Oh yes, oh yes, the iconic name,

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Speaker 2: the Cyrus iconic name. Very excited to have them on

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Speaker 2: to talk about many, many, many many things, having grown

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Speaker 2: up the way that they did with all the siblings.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, you're already here. I I was doing my intro.

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Speaker 4: Carry on, it's like, we're not here.

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Speaker 2: This is actually this is kind of fun. Let me

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Speaker 2: let you guys stay on. I'm going to keep doing

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Speaker 2: my intro. So, these are two of the most beautiful

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Speaker 2: women I've ever seen in my life. They are extremely intellectual.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why they're not multi billionaires. Oh wait,

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Speaker 2: they're here. What did you hear all that?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm not a saying I'm wondering if we're not

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Speaker 5: multi billionaires.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you guys for coming on and playing with me.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, you do not know how stoked I am,

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Speaker 5: because I am, like, it is not okay, how much

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Speaker 5: I'll love your Instagram?

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Speaker 2: Oh really? Yes, oh good, it makes me happy. It's

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Speaker 2: it's it's the one thing that honestly probably brings me

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Speaker 2: the most joy because I nothing is planned. Everything is spontaneous.

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Speaker 2: That's why sometimes I don't do shit and nothing goes

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Speaker 2: on there, and then all of a sudden, I get

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Speaker 2: the giggles of something that comes through my head and

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Speaker 2: I just do it. But I love it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if there's any piece of creativity that is a true

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Speaker 2: expression of my being, that is definitely it's.

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Speaker 3: It's too good.

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Speaker 5: Like if I'm in like a bad mood and I

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Speaker 5: just I hit your Instagram restantly happy.

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Speaker 3: So thank you for that?

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Speaker 2: Oh good, Well, thank you, guys, I appreciate that. Where

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Speaker 2: are you right now?

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Speaker 3: We're in my house in to Luca Lake in La.

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Speaker 2: Oh you are? Yeah? Okay? Good? But where did you

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Speaker 2: grow up? Where did this all happen?

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Speaker 5: I grew up in eastern Kentucky in the Sticks, and

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Speaker 5: moved to Nashville in the early nineties and then out

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Speaker 5: here in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 3: So I've been here for a long.

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Speaker 2: Time, okay. And then Brandy, I grew up.

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Speaker 4: In Nashville, essentially moved me, moved us there when I

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Speaker 4: was five, and I lived there up until Miley got

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Speaker 4: Hannah Montana. And then I lived in LA for a

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Speaker 4: while and freaking hated it. And now I'm back in Nashville.

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Speaker 4: I've been back for a long time.

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Speaker 2: So oh good. So hold on, why did we hate La?

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Speaker 4: What is there to like? Honestly, guys, like the West

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Speaker 4: wasn't the same all the time. It's so boring. The

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Speaker 4: traffic is horrendous. Getting into lax is a freaking nightmare.

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Speaker 4: No bookings out with each other, there's no night life,

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Speaker 4: there's no social scene. Like I it's just not for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I agree? I mean, I was

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Speaker 2: born and raised here, but I kind of want out.

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Speaker 2: I'm an outdoor guy, right, so I have a boat.

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Speaker 2: I love the ocean, I love the mountains.

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Speaker 4: Where would you go if you were gonna move?

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Speaker 2: Probably Colorado, I'm right there with you. Yeah, Colorado. The

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Speaker 2: Colorado to me is, you know, just a perfect state.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I love the snow, I love the seasons.

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Speaker 2: I love the summers there. You know, We've had a

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Speaker 2: ranch there for forty years my family, so it's sort

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Speaker 2: of second Homeie. I went to elementary school there, just

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Speaker 2: outside of Aspen, and it's just a very special place

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Speaker 2: for me, you know, yep. And I'm sick of the traffic.

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Speaker 2: I'm sick of I'm sick of it, you know I am.

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Speaker 2: But it's home. My whole fucking family lives ten minutes

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Speaker 2: I got Kurt and Mom and Wyatt and Kateon and

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Speaker 2: Boston and all of us are right here with all

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Speaker 2: the cousins and everything else.

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Speaker 5: I wish all of my kids were here, but it's

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Speaker 5: for me. I mean, I could never live in Nashville

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Speaker 5: because through my kids are in Nashville. But the weather

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Speaker 5: is literally horrendous, So I can't great. It is terrible.

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Speaker 3: It brains more than it rains in Seattle News.

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Speaker 5: And but for me here Molly is literally like five

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Speaker 5: minutes for me, and Noah is five minutes for me,

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Speaker 5: and all right here together and so and I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And I have happened to have a house that like

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Speaker 5: I cannot see anyone else, like like I cannot see

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Speaker 3: I have a big front yard. I have a big backyard.

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Speaker 5: And like when you pull into my gates, you feel

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Speaker 5: like you're like in freaking Bali.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like live retreat.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 5: It does block a retreat. So like for me, like

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Speaker 5: just the traffic is really the only thing that bugs me.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, it's filthy.

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Speaker 2: So that's I get it. I did a show called Nashville.

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Speaker 2: I did Nashville in Nashville. I lived there for two years.

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Speaker 2: So I bought a house in Cleveland Park. You know,

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Speaker 2: and no doubt that weather is nasty. The ice storms

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Speaker 3: I know, the storms are insane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Well let's go back a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Because you guys have such you have such an interesting

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Speaker 2: sort of family. There's seven total siblings, correct, five? Okay,

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Speaker 2: total five total op total okay, and so there's half

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Speaker 2: in fulls. There are how many halves and how many folds?

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Speaker 3: Two halves, three folds?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Three? Fourth? And is everyone still connected under the

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Speaker 2: same umbrella? Everyone is their relationships amongst everybody.

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Speaker 5: There are relationships among everyone. But being that the three

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Speaker 5: the three are in Nashville and two are in LA.

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Speaker 3: Like I got divorced about what year was that, twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two years ago? I don't know, but I got divorced.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, I was reading about that with Billy, right,

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Speaker 2: so okay, But it was an interesting divorce, meaning it

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Speaker 2: was a divorce, not divorced, divorce not divorce, and then

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Speaker 2: finally divorce.

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Speaker 5: For me, I never wanted to be divorced. Like my

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Speaker 5: mom and dad got met on a Monday, got married

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Speaker 5: on a Friday, and we're together until my dad passed away.

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Speaker 5: Great childhood, best example of a marriage you could ever imagine.

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Speaker 5: And also just for us, like you're in the public guy,

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Speaker 5: already so kind of odd and at some times unstable.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to make it work, you know, probably for

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Speaker 5: a little too long, like for my.

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Speaker 2: Own mental health, right, So the staying together was sort

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Speaker 2: of filing. Staying together was like can we make this

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Speaker 2: And then you know, the ship peters up.

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Speaker 3: It there became a point that like I didn't have

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Speaker 2: I had like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And how

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Speaker 2: was that for the whole family just generally?

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Speaker 5: I mean it definitely I think was tough on everyone

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Speaker 4: It was, but I feel like when once they finally

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Speaker 4: did divorce, we were all adults. Yeah, I know, and

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Speaker 4: that was I feel like in the beginning, like you know,

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Speaker 4: my mom really wanted to stay the family, to stay

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Speaker 4: together for Noah. But then you know, once Noah was

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Speaker 4: see it for what it was instead of feeling like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting question actually, because we always I'm proud

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Speaker 2: of I'm a child of divorce, you know, but you're

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Speaker 2: always hearing of stories, you know, or the implications of

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Speaker 2: going through it and how you guys are all able

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Speaker 2: to process that with a fully developed, conscious and aware brain.

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Speaker 3: Yes, for sure, it was definitely definitely different, Like it.

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Speaker 2: Was easier or were there I think so?

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Speaker 4: I think, I mean, I honestly don't know what it's

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Speaker 4: like to go through a divorce, like living in a

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Speaker 4: But I would assume that if a kid was still

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Speaker 4: wrapped up in all the drama more right, Like I

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Speaker 4: you're not just like in all of it, only part

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Speaker 4: of what they tell you essentially, you know.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, right, But there's there's no taking sides, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's just is there No matter what. I'm

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Speaker 2: know how much you want to talk about it or not.

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Speaker 2: I like the fucking weeds, as you probably will know,

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Speaker 2: but like like weed and the weeds. But you know,

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Speaker 2: it's like when you're that age, whatever happens to your parents,

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Speaker 2: you know, and how do you navigate that? For sure?

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Speaker 5: Yes, you know, I think I mean even the older kids,

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Speaker 5: you know, like my son Trace, for example, he's thirty six,

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Speaker 5: he'll be thirty six in February, you know, and he

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Speaker 5: was like FuMB like he was like, I wish my

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Speaker 5: mom and dad would never get that.

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Speaker 3: I wish that wouldn't have happened.

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Speaker 5: I still, you know, have just you know, I think

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Speaker 5: no matter I was, like I said, I was an

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Speaker 2: just don't, only because do you do you wish success

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Speaker 5: And so I think also just instilling that into them

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Speaker 3: And it's harder because you have to kind of work harder.

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Speaker 5: you know, do things normally. But I do think that

435
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 5: Molly honestly, like I said, like I'm in awe of

436
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 5: her every day, Like she's just like kind of figured

437
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 5: it out, and you know it is so happy, and

438
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 5: like Brandy said, like she really is at this point

439
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 5: in her adulthood where she really kind of is like

440
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 5: every step has gotten me to where I'm at now,

441
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 5: and like you know, she can kind of choose what

442
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 5: she wants to do and not want to do, and.

443
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 3: So yeah, like she she's loving it.

444
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: Does she have her moments? Does she know how to

445
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: find her freedom and anonymity without having to just stay

446
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: at home? You know, I mean it's a big world, man, Like, wait,

447
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: don't you she want to go experience it?

448
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 3: He definitely wants to.

449
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 5: And I think now that she's older, that that will

450
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 5: happen and that she'll figure that part out because she

451
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 5: like has just gotten like kind of the travel bug

452
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 5: and like the world and you know, do all the things,

453
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 5: and so yeah, I think there's a way to figure

454
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 5: it out and do it. I don't think you'll ever

455
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 5: do it. Like a normal person gets to do it.

456
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 5: But I definitely think that they're you know, she'll she's

457
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 5: a smart girl, she'll figure.

458
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: It for sure and bringy.

459
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: Going back a little bit, you know, do you remember

460
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: being adopted. Was this a big moment or was it

461
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: just kind of like this is my life? Because I

462
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: only say this because you know my dad, you know,

463
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: he was around for a little bit, then he he bailed.

464
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: We have a good relationship now, but it took a long, long, long,

465
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: long time, but we're there. Kurt came into my life

466
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: when I was six, five or six kind of saying

467
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: the same and essentially he raised me. You know, he's

468
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: the man that I am. I'm the man I am

469
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: today because I am right. There was a moment when

470
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: he asked us, myself and Kate if we wanted to

471
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: be adopted, and we said no, and not that we were,

472
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 2: you know, very aware of probably what it even fucking meant.

473
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: We were six and however old or twelve whatever, I

474
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 2: don't remember the age, but we just said, well, we

475
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: don't need it, you know what I mean, like we

476
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: the love is right there, and you know, at the

477
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: same time, you know, when you don't have your biological around.

478
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: It's hard to replace that no matter what. You know,

479
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like the love was there with Kurt.

480
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: There's no doubt that he is my dad. I call

481
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: him Paul, you know, but there was always not something missing,

482
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: but it was always sort of like wow, but there's

483
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 2: that other side, you know. Yeah, did you ever feel

484
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: that at all? Or was it just like this is

485
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: my dad and that's it.

486
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, That's kind of how it was for me. Like,

487
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 4: like I said, like from I mean Achy Bricky Heart

488
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 4: came out when I was five, but I mean my

489
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 4: dad's been in my life since I was what three? Yeah,

490
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 4: Like you know, so I was I was very young.

491
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: It's kind of all I know. And like you're kind

492
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 4: of saying, like he was my dad, he like turned

493
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 4: me into the person that I am. He taught me

494
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 4: how to play guitar, He taught me how to ride

495
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 4: a horse. He literally taught me how to do every

496
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 4: single thing that I loved today. And I was a

497
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 4: little bit older. I think when we like did the

498
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: legal thing, and I think for me a lot of

499
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 4: it was like, well, I want to have the same

500
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: last name as my the rest of my family. I

501
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 4: want to have the I want to be able to

502
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 4: put cyrus when I'm at school and be braindy side,

503
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And it was kind of

504
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 4: more of like, well, this is my family and this

505
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 4: is my dad, and I want to like I want

506
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: to actually be a part of that family. And I

507
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 4: think that's kind of more of what it was for

508
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: me at the time. And I don't really remember it

509
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 4: feeling like a big deal because it already felt like that,

510
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: like it already the family, and I already felt like

511
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 4: I was a sire. I already felt like he was

512
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: my dad. So I just like kind of like it

513
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 4: just didn't really feel like like a huge moment, you

514
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Oddly enough.

515
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: And then how did your sort of creative evolution happen?

516
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: I mean at a young age, did everyone know and

517
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: specifically you kind of what you wanted to do, what

518
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: you wanted to be. Did you know that you were

519
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 2: a creative person and wanted to pursue the arts.

520
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 4: So like I actually feel like I was the latest

521
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 4: to that, like the latest bloomer in that sense. Like

522
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 4: when I was growing up, like all I cared about

523
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 4: was horses and I was just at the barn, like

524
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 4: riding to love horses a day, every single day, and

525
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 4: it's literally all I wanted to do. And then then

526
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 4: I think like I went off to college and slowed

527
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: down the riding, and that's the exact same time that

528
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 4: Miley got hand in Montana, and you know, then the

529
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 4: whole family moved out to la and the whole family

530
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: kind of stepped more into the entertainment side of things,

531
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 4: and I started making more friends in music, and it

532
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 4: started to become like everybody that I was around was

533
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: a creative and that's kind of how I feel like.

534
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 4: I started to tap into that. And I became friends

535
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: with a bunch of girls that were in a band

536
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: and they all played guitar and they were all musicians

537
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: and they became my very best friends, and they ended

538
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 4: up touring with Miley and we all got on the

539
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 4: road together, and I was hanging out essentially, but it

540
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: made me want to learn how to play the guitar.

541
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 4: And it's like, oh, well, look at that. My dad's

542
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 4: great at it, so I'll just have him teach me.

543
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: And I was probably i don't know, like twenty twenty

544
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 4: one or twenty two, like when I picked up a

545
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 4: guitar and on that tour kind of started messing around

546
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 4: with it, and then when we came off that tour,

547
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: I would just sit with my dad every day and

548
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: just like figure out how to play the guitar. And

549
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 4: that's kind of how I got interested in it. And

550
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: then when I moved to La, I was working as

551
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 4: like a featured background extra on Hannah Montana and got

552
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 4: introduced to a girl that was a very talented artist

553
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: and musician that was looking to put a band together,

554
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: and she and I started a band, and I just

555
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 4: kind of like it all just kind of happened really fast,

556
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: you know. And it's funny because I as a kid,

557
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: never like have dreams of what I wanted to be

558
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: or have goals or like I definitely would not say

559
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 4: like I knew I've always known what I wanted to do,

560
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: because that's so far from the truth, and even to

561
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 4: this day, like I feel.

562
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: Like I still don't really know.

563
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm just kind of as it goes,

564
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 4: you know, for a while. And then I like then

565
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 4: that ended. And I started modeling a little bit when

566
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: I was young, and then I wasn't that young when

567
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 4: I started that, so I was like, well, this isn't

568
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 4: gonna last long word. I go from here, and that's

569
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 4: where I kind of got introduced to, like the world

570
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: of the djaing and DJing. I would never in a

571
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 4: million years of thought like that's where I would end up.

572
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: And even when I started doing it, I was like, oh,

573
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 4: this is good for now, until I really want to

574
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: do and then I just started to really love it

575
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 4: and it just started to take off for me. And

576
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 4: here we freaking out And now she has a residency

577
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: at the wind So now I'm a free resident.

578
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: Details Oh really, damn, that's amazing, isn't it Weird though,

579
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: that's the beauty of life, And that's the beauty of

580
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 2: sort of letting, not squeezing too hard and holding on

581
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: to to anything. Really, you know, there's something really uh

582
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: fantastic about this idea that you still don't know what

583
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: the hell you are. I'm a very uh I try

584
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: to be self aware. I have been in therapy for

585
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: a billion years and I'm always in my head, not

586
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: in a bad way, but I always ask. I'm always

587
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: sometimes like, who the fuck are you, Oliver? Like who

588
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: are you really? Like? Are you full of shit? To yourself?

589
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: Right now? Like I mean I have these existential crises

590
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: sometimes in my head, but then I'm like, you know what,

591
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: who gives who kiss a ship? That? Why do I

592
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: need to even pass a judgment on this? And we

593
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: can't know who we are fully because we're forever evolving.

594
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 4: You know.

595
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of the fun about being human. It

596
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: can be scary at times, but if you allow it

597
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: to just to be part of the process, then fuck, yeah,

598
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: it's kind of awesome. Yeah.

599
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 4: I've kind of always been like I'll go where life

600
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 4: takes me kind of gal like I don't Brandy is like, honestly,

601
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 4: and I know that that you talk about your mental

602
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: health and like, I've always been anxious, and over the

603
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 4: last months, I've been very open about literally having the

604
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: worst anxiety I've ever life.

605
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Oh my god, it's it's been the

606
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 5: chills awful. Like really, all Brandy, this girl like because

607
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 5: all like all my kids have a little bit of anxiety,

608
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 5: Like yeah, like we all struggle a little bit with it.

609
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: Not this one, like.

610
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 5: She was cruising through life there is like like yeah,

611
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 5: there is nothing, no anxiety, no, none of it And

612
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 5: like a.

613
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: TI, what what as mama, what what would you attribute

614
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: that to. You know, why do you think that just

615
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: given her makeup.

616
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 5: I don't know if it is because of the horses.

617
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 5: For subfirming such a young age, like she really cared

618
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 5: about nothing else, Like she really didn't like from the

619
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 5: time she was six and put on a horse that

620
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 5: was really she had such a connection to that and

621
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 5: it was like there really wasn't time to think about

622
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 5: other things, and like she was just always completely in

623
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 5: it and she still.

624
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: Is like to this day.

625
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 5: And also like I don't know, but we like it's

626
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 5: we just all talk about it because it's just like.

627
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 4: Damn got to be genetic a little bit. It's got

628
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: to be something in your DNA that gives you anxiety.

629
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: I feel like I don't know.

630
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: Well again, as you know, like I'm this is my

631
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: my struggles have been with anxiety. You know, it's not

632
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: an everyday thing, but you do live with low grade

633
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: you know, every now and again, even though I am

634
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: on lexapro and I you know, on medication all that,

635
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: but there is a genetic component. You know, my mom

636
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: when she was twenty four years old, twenty five years old,

637
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: which was the exact age when I got struck with anxiety,

638
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: and when I say struck, I mean it. I was

639
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: going into like a club. My heart felt like it exploded.

640
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: I went down to a knee. I thought I was

641
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: dying and I didn't understand, don't even know what anxiety was. Yeah,

642
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: and my mom had it at the same time. So there.

643
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: I don't think you're I don't think you're wrong. I

644
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: think there is a genetic component to that for sure.

645
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 4: That somehow that gene just missed me because I lucky, lucky, I.

646
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 5: Mean she got I mean so lucky because like I

647
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 5: was on lexipro for like twenty years, I worked beautifully,

648
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 5: Like I didn't even have any low grade anxiety. I

649
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 5: was like yeah, and all of a sudden it stopped

650
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 5: working and oh yeah. And so for the last six

651
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 5: to seven months, I've had like a lot of anxiety.

652
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: So you've only been like vocal about it for the

653
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: last like six months or so, or have you talked

654
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 2: about it? Why do you think that would.

655
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 4: Have been in like a freaking cave for six months.

656
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 4: We went on hiatus from the podcast and everything, and

657
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 4: she's just kind of going through it and then just

658
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 4: just surfacing in the past month.

659
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: I'd say, oh wow, it's so interesting. So why do

660
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: why did you feel like you had not that you

661
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: had to hide it awaite because you were obviously you

662
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: know you're on shows and you know you're a public person.

663
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: And did you just never want to really talk about it?

664
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: No?

665
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 5: I talked about it the second I came, Like, I

666
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 5: literally truly like it. Just it draws me crazy to

667
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 5: give tabloids and shit like headlines. But like I also

668
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 5: I always want to be honest because I want like

669
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 5: if anything comes out of you know, what I've gone through,

670
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 5: is if I can help other people who go through thing,

671
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 5: then it's great. No, I wasn't functioning enough to even

672
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 5: do the podcast, like was full on like panic attacks,

673
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 5: like NonStop panic and just I've never felt anything like

674
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 5: the anxiety that I felt for like four months solid

675
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 5: of like like like after hell. As soon as I

676
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 5: came out of it and we started podcasting again, I

677
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 5: started talking about it.

678
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So how did you come out of it?

679
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 5: Changed medications, which like when I first went on lexapro

680
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 5: and like you, I like was around twenty three when

681
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 5: I first started having anxiety, I went on lexapro and

682
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 5: it just like wiped it out, like it for me,

683
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 5: it was just like I really, I mean, I got

684
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 5: I had like anxiety around traveling and sure, yeah, nothing

685
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 5: like major that I couldn't handle. And I also, for

686
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 5: the last ten years smoked a lot of weed. And

687
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if this had something to do with it,

688
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 5: but we went on vacation somewhere I could not have weed,

689
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 5: and like three days in I just started having so

690
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 5: much anxiety. Came home, I tried to smoke again and anxiety,

691
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 5: and then just for some reason, had a full long

692
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 5: I call it my anxiety era because I'm telling you

693
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 5: it was like from the moment I woke up till

694
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 5: the time I went to bed, I was just anxious,

695
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 5: and it was like the abilitator.

696
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: How did your anxiety manifest? Because it's so funny, I

697
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: had the exact four month stint. This is about two

698
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: years ago now. I it was fucking gnarly, and I

699
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 2: had young kids. They weren't young young, but I still

700
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: to be a dad, you know. I was mountain biking

701
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: and Colorado, going downhilling, like losing my shit on the mountain,

702
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: and I would wake up every morning and there'd be

703
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: that small moment where I'm like, am I okay? And

704
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: then boom, I'm now I'm flooded with I'm.

705
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 5: Still waking up with anxiety every single morning.

706
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: How does it feel like? Because sometimes it's stomach, sometimes

707
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: it's this, sometimes it's you can't breathe, you know, I

708
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: mean okay.

709
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 5: So at first, like the stomach thing was terrible in

710
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 5: the beginning, that has sodded a lot of way, like

711
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 5: a lot of way, and which was really scary for

712
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 5: me because I'm already pretty small person.

713
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 3: So I was like, very not.

714
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 5: And then it's more like in my chat like I

715
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 5: just my heart, I just feel it. I'd my sobs,

716
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 5: just feel anxious. So for me, the second my feet

717
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 5: hit the floor in the morning, I go for a

718
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 5: walk like I do, like a long walk, and that

719
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 5: at this point gets it out. And if I stay busy,

720
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 5: I'm okay. Like when I am busy and not focus

721
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 5: on it at all, I'm okay. If I have too

722
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: much time on my hands, I'm still kind of in it.

723
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 5: But it's not debilitating.

724
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: At the moment.

725
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: Four months it was debilitating.

726
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I consider myself a pretty strong willed person.

727
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: I know what I'm going through. That was the benefit

728
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: of having been through it. I know I'm not dying.

729
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: I know I'm going to get through it. I know

730
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: there is light at the end of this tunnel. I

731
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: have to ride it out. I have to keep my

732
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: meditations going, I have to keep journaling, I got to

733
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: keep working out, I got to keep you know, f

734
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: positive affirmations and all of these things. Because that anxiety

735
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: is roots and stems from something. You know, there is

736
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: a chemical imbalance. I do believe that, but it there.

737
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: There is a psychological component to it, so that means

738
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: there's a way out. But if I was a weaker

739
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: person and I thought this is it, I'm trapped like

740
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: this forever. Sorry, I'm not going to keep going.

741
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 5: It's like, honestly, like I'm the same way. Like they're

742
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 5: like suicide, Like that's just like not an option. Yeah,

743
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 5: there are were days that I would say, like autruly,

744
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 5: like I can't, I can't live like this. But like

745
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 5: if this, like I don't know what I'm gonna do

746
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 5: because I can't.

747
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: And then that perpetuates more anxiety. That's the fucked up

748
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: thing about anxiety is that it's at this vicious cycle

749
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: because you get anxious about being anxious.

750
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 4: That's I'm still there.

751
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, but again, like I really a lot of

752
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 5: money is when I have addle time, like even on

753
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 5: the weekends. I'm not like, I'm not a big outdoor person,

754
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 5: so like I don't play sports or tennis or hike

755
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 5: do things like that, So weekends are hard for me usually.

756
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 5: But so has yours only happened when you've been off

757
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 5: your lexapro or has yours that happened while if well

758
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 5: on your lexapro? Are you totally fine?

759
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: I'm like you, I have sort of. I can have

760
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: low grade anxiety around certain situations, you know, or sometimes

761
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: I'll wake up I'm like, fuck, dude, I'm just anxious,

762
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: God damn it, you know. But it's not that bedridden,

763
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: debilitating like disassociation where I'm like, is life even real

764
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: right now? Like I can't even even what's coming out

765
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: of my vision doesn't feel like reality, you know. It's

766
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 2: not like that. But my last really, my worst bout

767
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: ever again two years ago, was me going trying to

768
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: go off of lexic pro, weaning off of it because

769
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think I'm okay. It was just a

770
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: bad choice and I did it correctly, but it just

771
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: like just devastated me, Like I fucking put me down.

772
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: And then I got a job and I'm like, oh

773
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: my god, I got to go to Albuquerque to do

774
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: this TV show. I can't I can't act like that.

775
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: I can't go. I'll I literally cannot work. So I

776
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: just went back on, you know.

777
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 3: And then it evens you completely.

778
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's even me out.

779
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 4: You know.

780
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: There's no doubt though that it still pops its heat up.

781
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: You know, if I drink too much and have a

782
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: decent hangover, that kicks in, you know. I mean, there

783
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: are certain times where it flares up, but it hasn't

784
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: gotten to that point where it's just you know, gnarly,

785
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: gnarally gnarly. But you know, it's I've had three really

786
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: bad bouts in my life, and it's probably you know,

787
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: it might happen again at some point, you know, but

788
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: it's just I think I know how to manage it

789
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: a little bit better. Yeah now, but it's still awful,

790
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: and I'm glad you're talking about it, and you know,

791
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 2: I think you're right. Even though we know that many, many,

792
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: many many people suffer as well, and they know that

793
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: people suffer as well, sometimes it's nice to hear that

794
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: you're not alone, there's some camaraderie in it, you know,

795
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: even with me. Of course, I'm like cerebrally, I know

796
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: a lot of people have anxiety, but like if you

797
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: and I are talking privately and you're like, oh my god,

798
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm fucked up, I'm like, oh my god, I'm sucked

799
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: up too, there's a camaraderie there, totally.

800
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 5: No Honestly, I literally when I saw on your Instagram

801
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 5: you talking about that happening to you a couple of

802
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 5: years ago, I was like, immediately, I was like, oh god, yeah,

803
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 5: like I'm not the only one. Not that you wish

804
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 5: that on someone else to make feels there is this

805
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 5: thing of like, oh, he went through that and he's

806
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 5: on the other side of it.

807
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 3: That's hopeful.

808
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: You know, maybe you and I should start an anxiety

809
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: club called Club Anxiety. Seriously, it's kind of a fucking Grady.

810
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: Club Anxiety is kind of a funny name too, because

811
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 2: it sounds like like a dance club.

812
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: I call this my anxiety era.

813
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 5: Like everybody's talking about the eras to our Taylor, I'm like,

814
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 5: I'm been in my anxiety era. So but yeah, like

815
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 5: I literally I want to talk about it as much

816
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 5: as possible, because honestly, I look and I'm like, Okay,

817
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 5: why have I going through this?

818
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: Why have I gone through this?

819
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 5: Like if I don't use it to help other people,

820
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 5: then in a way, you know, what's the point, Like

821
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 5: I there's nothing. I just think there's no shame in it.

822
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 5: It's just something that you either happens to you or

823
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 5: it doesn't. And if it does happen, it's fricking hard.

824
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: It's you know, but they're right there. There is that

825
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: silver lining to all of and you may not see

826
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: it now, but it definitely rears its head in the

827
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 2: best possible way. I mean for me, it was even

828
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: with my kid who's now seventeen, when he was in

829
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: eighth grade, I kept him home from school for almost

830
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 2: a month because he was going through he had anxiety,

831
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: and I just knew what it was. I knew how

832
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: to deal with it, you know, luckily for him. Yeah,

833
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: and I was able to sort of, you know, have

834
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: great conversations with him and give him some tools. So

835
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: there was that, and then again and you're you know,

836
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: you're in the spotlight, like you're a famous person, like

837
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: you have that reach and the amount of people that

838
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: I have some come into contact with who have said

839
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 2: to me, you know your story has made me feel better,

840
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 2: or inspired me, or has made me want to seek

841
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: help in one way or another. And it feels pretty

842
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: fucking great.

843
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: I know, you know totally.

844
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: I wanted this place called the Hoffman Institute, which I've

845
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: talked to.

846
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: I've talked a bunch of trying to get her to

847
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 4: go there.

848
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: Oh babe, Tish, should I go? It changed my whole shit?

849
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: I'll see, really, yes.

850
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: It changed my shit. It's been six years now. There's

851
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: a honeymoon phase. There's no doubt, like when you come

852
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: out of it. It's almost like your psychic I was

853
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 2: like icee life totally differently. We get pounded again by life,

854
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: and that's normal, but you have this wonderful toolbox to

855
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: sort of draw from when you need it. The experience

856
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: itself once you surrender to it and once you can

857
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: commit to it, which took me two days to do

858
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: because I was in my head like these fucking people

859
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: are crazy. But I just said, you know what, Oliver,

860
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: You're here, go And it was really an amazing experience.

861
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: You just learned so much about yourself and you can

862
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: break it all down and it's pretty amazing. I mean

863
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: I had an incredible experience. Wow, Okay, I would do it.

864
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: I would honestly give it a shot. What's your hesitation.

865
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just scared to Like.

866
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 5: I love my house, I love being like and I'm

867
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 5: at this place where and I have not been like this,

868
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 5: where I have this sphere of being alone and it

869
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 5: is not good, even alone for like a day or two,

870
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 5: like breaks me out.

871
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: So I need to work through that for sure.

872
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, what's the best time when you're the most afraid,

873
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: you know, the worst time for in your mind, but

874
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: the best time probably to deal with it. Yeah, it's

875
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: been amazing. And I'm only to say that because I

876
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: talked about on this show. I've talked about it on

877
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: talk shows whatever, because you know, it's just a part

878
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: of my life and the amount of letters that I

879
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 2: have gotten because in the process, you know, and at

880
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: the end, you write a letter to the people who

881
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: inspired you to go. And I have hundreds of them,

882
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: and it's been like, oh my god. I am an

883
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: emotional person just generally, but I cry every time I

884
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: read them because it just makes me feel amazing. You know.

885
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so many days did.

886
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 2: You go seven days. You go up there, no phone,

887
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: no nothing. You literally check out. You don't bring books,

888
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: you don't bring computers, you don't do anything. You can't run,

889
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: you don't want to do yoga, you just want to, like,

890
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: don't do anything. That's the idea. They literally say, please

891
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 2: don't masturbate. I'm like, well, but no, you're not allowed.

892
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, how about just once?

893
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 3: The thought of setting and my thoughts and doing that

894
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: thing is not okay?

895
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know.

896
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 4: Yeah that sound hard.

897
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so real quick podcast, Give it to me. What

898
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: are you guys doing, how long you've been doing it?

899
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: Give me the whole give me al the deats doing it.

900
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 4: For a few years, it started out it was called

901
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 4: sorry We're stoned because I love that freaking massive stoner

902
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 4: and so funny.

903
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: Are you still smoking now that you it's killing me?

904
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 5: I want to, but honestly, I think at this point

905
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 5: rotten now, Like it would just make me more anxious.

906
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it goes both ways. Sometimes people smoke their

907
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: weed to alleviate anxiety.

908
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 5: To see we can talk forever about this, because like

909
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 5: I want to think if I smoked it would relieve it.

910
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 5: But I'm so afraid it will do the opposite that

911
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 5: now I'm scared to do it. But weed was I

912
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 5: felt like weed was my medicine for a long time.

913
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's mine.

914
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I like the thought of not smoking weed

915
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 5: ever again, Like I don't I'm praying that's not the

916
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 5: case that I can smoke again and that'd be okay. Yeah,

917
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 5: I just don't know with my anxiety rotten now that

918
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 5: that's probably the best thing. Yeah, it's been seven months

919
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 5: for me and not smoked every day.

920
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and.

921
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: I pray to God I get back there.

922
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: Well, once we connect, we'll get you back.

923
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 5: So now that I'm not smoking, and for other reasons,

924
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 5: we did a rebrand and now it's called Sorry We're Cyrus,

925
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 5: and we just we kind of just came back and

926
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 5: have just started this this new era of the podcast.

927
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 5: And it's been great because, you know, for a lot

928
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 5: of people that didn't smoke, they it feels more inclusive now,

929
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 5: brands aren't scared of us. So there were a lot

930
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 5: of reasons that I think that it's been a good change.

931
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 4: Sure, but it's essentially the same podcast. It's always just

932
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 4: been a mother daughter podcast and we you know, talk

933
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 4: about mother daughter dynamics, family dynamics, but also just things

934
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 4: that we have in common. My mom's very passionate about

935
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 4: interior design. We had an interior design show a few

936
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 4: years ago. Definitely do a little design segment in there.

937
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 4: My mom loves giving advice. She's very good at it.

938
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: So we have people send in questions and ask for

939
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: advice about different things, anything from like relationships to you know,

940
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 4: life advice and everything. And we've been like ramping up

941
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 4: on our guests, like we've had some really cool guests

942
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 4: on and it's cool to almost keep the format loose

943
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 4: kind of. I mean, your format seems so loose to

944
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 4: it's great because then you can just really like loose

945
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 4: their stories and kind of see where the conversation takes you.

946
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 4: And it's been really fun and I feel like it's

947
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 4: been really relatable, and yeah, I'm we're excited to get well.

948
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: It's also cool to work with your mom and you

949
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 2: work with your daughter.

950
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 5: It's also an opportunity like today to talk about hard

951
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 5: subjects and make people less alone. And like you have

952
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 5: so many people say, oh my god, I love the

953
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 5: podcast because it feels like we're just hanging out with

954
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 5: you guys, and you know you're just like us, and

955
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 5: so it's honestly really rewarding to do.

956
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 3: I love it.

957
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, well cool, it has been great. I appreciate you

958
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: know your can and I think it's all important stuff

959
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: to talk about. And uh, and and let me know

960
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 2: if you want me to be a guest. I'm down

961
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 2: to come on the podcast.

962
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 3: Oh that would be amazing. I would love that.

963
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. You can ask me anything, Okay, great, anything. Well,

964
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: this is so fun. Thank you guys so much for

965
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: coming on. And uh will definitely connect and everyone listening

966
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 2: to this podcast. And I want to come on because

967
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: I want to be grilled. I want I want you

968
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 2: guys to grill me.

969
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:27,959
Speaker 3: Oh I can't wait.

970
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: I dare you to come up with a question that

971
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: I don't answer. How about that? Oh yeah yeah, just

972
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 2: let me know I'm down. Okay, it's good talks, all right, guys.

973
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 4: Later