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Speaker 2: Good morning, Steelers Nation. Welcome inside the Indiana Convention Center

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Speaker 2: here at the twenty twenty six NFL Scouting Combine. It

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Speaker 2: is day two of our ongoing coverage on Steelers Nation

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Speaker 2: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. West Shouler Mike pursued

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Speaker 2: it with you here for the nine am morning hour.

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Speaker 2: Hope coffee tastes good. Getting your day started here as

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Speaker 2: we are doing the same on radio row. A lot

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Speaker 2: of moving and shaking linebackers at the podium kind of

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Speaker 2: across the way from us as the first day of

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Speaker 2: player interviews and media availability gets going here. Mike what's

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Speaker 2: up man? How are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Good morning?

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Speaker 4: Do it outstanding? How you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Wes not too shabby. We had ourselves a good time

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Speaker 2: last night. We're back at it today. That tends to

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Speaker 2: be the case around here. We had a lovely Italian

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Speaker 2: great place on the outskirts of town, had a delightful meal,

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Speaker 2: and now we're ready for another full day of combine coverage.

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Speaker 4: Place endorsed by Mike Vrabel, among others.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Hey, that'll work for us, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll take it. We'll take it, Trev. You know, I

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Speaker 2: think the kind of big story of yesterday. Of course,

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Speaker 2: for those unfamiliar, each team, either your GM or your

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Speaker 2: head coach is required to speak here in Indianapolis at

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Speaker 2: the draft in a media for him, if you will.

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Speaker 2: So with that Omar Khan spoke yesterday.

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Speaker 4: It was a little bit of a make tomalinism by

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Speaker 4: you there there, if you will.

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Speaker 2: I've been you know, I used hopping on a moving

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Speaker 2: train yesterday and Matt was like, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you can still say that, And I was like, I'm

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Speaker 2: always gonna say that.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna roll with him for a while in uh

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Speaker 5: in tribute, yes, as an homage. As an homage, one

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Speaker 5: of the things I like to do is mispronounce the

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Speaker 5: word deterre Bill Cower because Bill Coward would always say,

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Speaker 5: we're not gonna be de tiered, and I pronounced it

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Speaker 5: to tier just a general conversations as a tribute to Bill,

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Speaker 5: of course, and one of my partners on the TV

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Speaker 5: Morning show, Randy Bobbin, is always telling me true people

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Speaker 5: are gonna think you don't know how to pronounce.

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Speaker 2: That word, and I do, but you're like, that's okay.

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Speaker 2: The ten percent of people that get the joke, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what matters.

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Speaker 5: So just as a FYI and anybody out there listen,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna roll with the Tombalinisms for a while.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: and all and all those things and will not be tiered.

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Speaker 2: Here this morning on radio row Omar Kahn speaking yesterday,

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Speaker 2: of the Pittsburgh media scrum with him first yep, and

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Speaker 2: then he took the national podium. Any any big takeaways,

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Speaker 2: what's your most prevailing thought kind of you know, little

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I guess the biggest Newsy development is

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Speaker 2: That was my biggest takeaway too, not as much the

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Speaker 5: And if that's the case, I guess a lot of

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Speaker 5: That left tackle was going to be battle between Broderick

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Speaker 5: Comment or the observation from Omar that really resonated with

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Speaker 5: Aaron rodgers toughness enough, and that toughness is real, and

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Speaker 5: he is a tough football player. And I'm a big

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Speaker 4: You can look at Aaron Rodgers and say, well, he

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Speaker 5: Sure, what are they thinking? It can't be forty two

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Speaker 5: and play quarterback. But every once in a while, Wes,

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Speaker 5: there's an exception to the rule. There's a special athlete

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Speaker 5: what Omar meant by that not just the way he

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Speaker 5: And I think that stuff resonates with the teammates too.

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Speaker 5: And I think if people are wondering, why are they

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Speaker 4: Don't look at him and how old he is, look at.

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Speaker 5: Him as who he is, and I think you might

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Speaker 5: get it if you're having a hard time, yeah, wrapping

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Speaker 2: And it's also it is listen, it's it's never a

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Speaker 2: it is to need one. But for when you kind

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Speaker 4: The other part of the Rogers equation.

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Speaker 5: One of the things he talked about when he first

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Speaker 5: Initially he did not want to be recognized or remembered

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Speaker 5: embrace that. Yeah, and you know you can be that

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Speaker 5: being that? Right, And he wants to get back to

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Speaker 5: the game and his mentoring of Will Howard. I'm not

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Speaker 5: in the anti Will Howard camp. I'm not in the

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Speaker 5: Will Howard's their next franchise guy. They just don't know

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Speaker 5: it yet. Camp you're a swing voter.

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Speaker 4: I'm in the I don't know who this guy is

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Speaker 4: or what he can do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be nice to see him in some preseason games, right,

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Speaker 5: I know what he did at Kansas State. I know

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Speaker 5: what he did at Ohio State. But I suspect that

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Speaker 5: learning from Aaron Rodgers. Again, I don't have a master's degree.

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Speaker 5: What's it take two years for most people? You don't

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Speaker 2: I think it took both of us more than four

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Speaker 5: But from what I was able to observe last year,

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Speaker 5: and from what Rogers and Howard have talked about, Will

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Speaker 5: Howard's going to quarterback school, being lectured to and instructed

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Speaker 5: it wouldn't be the worst thing in his development to

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Speaker 5: you know, everybody's always looking for quarterbacks because these guys

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Speaker 4: Get thrown in before they're ready.

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Speaker 5: Yep, I mean, I'm not breaking any news here, but

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Speaker 5: this is a trend that nobody seems to want to

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Speaker 4: Let's stop throwing them in before they're ready.

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Speaker 2: Worked out pretty well for the Chiefs, letting mahomes most

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Speaker 5: Let's let Will Howard learn another year from Aaron and

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Speaker 5: let's hopefully watch him play a ton of preseason snaps

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Speaker 4: And then let's see where they are at the end

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Speaker 5: But I think bringing Rogers back it serves them now

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Speaker 2: I agree, And I think, you know some I think

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Speaker 2: there's been some pushback to that of you know, he

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Speaker 2: is he really going to be this this mentor type

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Speaker 2: ready to beat the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday. But I

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Speaker 2: don't think there has to be that designation like success

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Speaker 2: leaves clues, right you. I think you saw it with

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Speaker 4: Were your line?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? Success leaves clues and so almost via osmosis,

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Speaker 2: even if he's not every single day putting his arm

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Speaker 2: here's why I did that, Here's what you should do next.

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Speaker 2: I just think you can, you can soak up so much.

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Speaker 2: There was, you know, a lot of a lot of reports,

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Speaker 2: a lot of conversations that Brett Farv and Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: weren't always the friendliest with each other when they were,

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Speaker 2: you know, both with the Packers. But I think it's

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Speaker 2: clear that Aaron Rodgers just watching that guy operate for

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Speaker 2: a couple of years was a massive benefit to him.

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Speaker 2: Jordan love watching Aaron Rodgers operate, massive benefit to him.

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Speaker 2: So I think I think you're spot on. I think

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Speaker 2: even it doesn't even necessarily have to be the chummy,

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Speaker 2: you know, hold the guy's hand to the quarterback meeting

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Speaker 2: room every day, just watching somebody like that success leaves clues.

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Speaker 5: Being an example, how you watch film bringing the receivers

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Speaker 4: Right? Does anybody play Monopoly?

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Speaker 4: So it used to be this.

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Speaker 5: They had paper money that you used if you were

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Speaker 4: It is, but I don't know where they find out

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Speaker 2: But again, like you said, there's exceptions to every rule.

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Speaker 2: But do you want to take one at twenty one?

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Speaker 2: I mean, look with Dan Moore Junior got thank you,

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Speaker 5: So you're probably not going there, right, Yes, I definitely

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Speaker 5: My perception of what the fans perceive as the biggest

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Speaker 4: As a slam dug, take it best.

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Speaker 4: There are options.

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Speaker 5: And I have no idea what Mike McCarthy's thinking, or

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Speaker 2: To be fair, those that kind of road will narrow.

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Speaker 4: And I'm also you know, what do they really think

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm not trying to throw stones or anything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dylan did a really good job for us when

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Speaker 5: He started to say above average, and then he caught

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Speaker 5: Maybe did they did they get lucky and give him

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Speaker 2: Moving forward, gold medal champion, Mike, although they don't get

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Speaker 4: He got the dub.

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Speaker 2: That's what matters most. The win is certainly more important

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Speaker 2: We have another eight hours of live coverage here today.

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Speaker 2: We'll do some, you know, different different combinations throughout the morning.

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Speaker 1: This is live Coverry Chub that twenty twenty six NFL

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Speaker 1: Combine on Steeler's Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Rocking and rolling here Day number two Radio Row, live

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Speaker 2: inside the Indiana Convention Center. It's the morning shift Wes

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Speaker 6: That's h and and Wes. Your production does not being

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Speaker 3: So I hope he comes back.

438
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Speaker 6: But if he doesn't, Yeah, I feel good enough about

439
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 6: what Dylan Cook did that I don't think they need

440
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 6: to be scrambling at that position.

441
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Speaker 2: Confidence meter that Aaron Rodgers is a Steeler and confidence

442
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Speaker 2: meter within a appropriate timeline.

443
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel good about the appropriate timeline. Everyone seems

444
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 6: to be pretty aligned on that. I don't think there's

445
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 6: any reason for it to drag into the offseason the

446
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 6: way it did last time around. He knows them, they

447
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 6: know him. I think at anytime, you're eliminating a lot

448
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 6: of the uncertainty from his standpoint. Last year, he really

449
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 6: did not know what he was getting into, and this

450
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 6: time he will have a really good idea as far

451
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 6: as what's gonna happen. Everybody asked me, you know, go

452
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 6: on every go on the radio, go to the grocery store.

453
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 6: What's going on with Aaron Rodgers? Like, I don't know,

454
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 6: get in his head. I like, that's that's a hard

455
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 6: thing to do. I have no idea what he's thinking.

456
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Speaker 6: It seems like there's some cautious optimism from Mike McCarthy

457
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 6: when he talks about it, But I'd have a hard

458
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Speaker 6: time feeling real confident that I know what Aaron Rodgers

459
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Speaker 6: is thinking.

460
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Speaker 5: I think that just to kind of pile on that

461
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 5: that could change what Aaron Rodgers is thinking, you know

462
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Speaker 5: what I mean, from one day to the next, or

463
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Speaker 5: from one hour to the next, or from one week

464
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Speaker 5: to the next. And I think that's why he's taking

465
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Speaker 5: this time, whatever period it's gonna be. He wants to

466
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Speaker 5: be absolutely positively sure, you know, there were people speculating

467
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 5: as the thing dragged on last year as well, if

468
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 5: it's taken him this long, if he doesn't know, then

469
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 5: he's out. You know, he's not going to be all in.

470
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Speaker 5: He was all in when he got here. I mean

471
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Speaker 5: he was great.

472
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Speaker 6: I mean that I was really blown away by that

473
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Speaker 6: actual part of it, that he was fully bought in

474
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Speaker 6: and committed to the full team process. He was a

475
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Speaker 6: fantastic teammate, a great leader. I felt like he filled

476
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Speaker 6: a role that they hadn't had in a while in

477
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Speaker 6: terms of having that quarterback who was the guy that

478
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Speaker 6: the offense really gravitated toward. And he was a guy

479
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Speaker 6: that people didn't want to let down. And I think

480
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 6: that was good when you have an offense it's really

481
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 6: full of young guys outside of him, I thought that

482
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 6: was really necessary. I think that's one of the biggest

483
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 6: advantages when you're talking about like looking at what's out

484
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 6: there for the Steelers. I mean, he was not a

485
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 6: great quarterback last year. I think average is probably the

486
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 6: best thing you could say. And there are other quarterbacks

487
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 6: out there that might be a little bit better, but

488
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Speaker 6: they also might be a lot worse. And I think

489
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 6: you should feel good about bringing that person back into

490
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Speaker 6: the room and if it's just average again, okay, you know,

491
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Speaker 6: and then maybe find that future guy some other way.

492
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Speaker 2: Alan Saunders with us here on Radio Row. Alan, I

493
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Speaker 2: feel like we've had this same conversation in the last

494
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Speaker 2: two years, now third straight year. Maybe it's becoming a

495
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: trilogy here, really deep wide receiver group. We know that

496
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 2: this is not going to be the Arthur Smith of

497
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 2: you know, living in twelve and thirteen personnel offense. It's

498
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 2: going to be the opposite in Mike McCarthy's offense. Is

499
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Speaker 2: this the year that we finally put that conversation to

500
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Speaker 2: beat we see it addressed.

501
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Speaker 6: That was my column this morning at Steelers Not dot Com.

502
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Speaker 6: I think so. I asked Omar that directly.

503
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 4: Yesterday just slid that plug in.

504
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might to teet him up on that one.

505
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I asked Omar that yesterday. You know, they really

506
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 6: were very obviously focused on the trenches when Omar and

507
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 6: obviously Andy Widel has a big influence in that as well,

508
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 6: took over. I think it was something like seven linemen

509
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 6: and three classes. Obviously we just talked about tackle. Left

510
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 6: guards still up in the air, probably still need one

511
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 6: more d tackle before you feel like those boxes are

512
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 6: kind of checked. But I do feel like they have

513
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 6: enough there that there really needs to be a big

514
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 6: shift in focus. I believe this is going to be

515
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 6: a draft that is much more about perimeter players on

516
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 6: offense and defense than it has been this trenches focused

517
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 6: thing of of the last couple of years. Uh, not

518
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 6: that they're totally done, but I do think and it

519
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 6: lines up with a really good class at wide receiver.

520
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 6: It's also a very good free agent class at wide receiver.

521
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 6: They only have, I mean, there's some some future contracts guys,

522
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 6: but in terms of people that were on the roster

523
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 6: that were catching balls in the NFL, DK Metcalf, Ben

524
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 6: Scronic and Roman Wilson, and the second two of those

525
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 6: guys were not making big statistical contributions. So I mean,

526
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 6: it wouldn't be crazy for them to add three.

527
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: Or four wide receivers this offseason.

528
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Speaker 5: It's you know, it's all very well spoken and thought out,

529
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 5: and I'm sure you wrote the hell out of it,

530
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 5: but we don't really know, do we, Because we don't

531
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Speaker 5: know what Mike McCarthy's thinking or what the what the

532
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 5: approach is going to be I'm sure you like myself,

533
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 5: we at least thought after a while. All right, I

534
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 5: got a beat on Mike tom But I kind of

535
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 5: can tell who's the Mike Toba player. Who is it,

536
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 5: what he's thinking, what he wants when he wants it.

537
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 5: It's all conjecture at this point.

538
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 6: I was talking to h Josiah Trotter just now, and

539
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 6: he's standing up there, very well spoken young man, talking.

540
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 2: About Yeah, of course he started his collegiate education at WU.

541
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 6: Obviously NFL bloodline, Very well spoken young man talking about

542
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 6: how important the physical part of football is to him.

543
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 6: And I'm like, well, if this was Mike Tomlins Steelers,

544
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 6: I'd be putting you in my mock draft right now.

545
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 6: Like you, you check all the boxes, But I don't know,

546
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 6: but I do think. Look, I mean, we know Mike

547
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 6: McCarthy's gonna play West Coast offense. He's gonna we know

548
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy's gonna feature a lot of love and personnel.

549
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 6: They only have three wide receivers. You gotta have more

550
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 6: than that, I mean, so they have to invest in

551
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 6: the position to do what he wants to do on offense.

552
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Speaker 5: They have three wide receivers right now, and one of

553
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 5: them scrow dirt.

554
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 6: Yescial it says, don't call me a wide receiver.

555
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's his line.

556
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 4: And the other guy can't get on the field.

557
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 6: Well yeah, so they have they almost are forced to

558
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 6: invest in the wide receiver positions, just a matter of

559
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 6: when and how much and yeah and how you know,

560
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 6: do they want to address it? Uh, go take a

561
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 6: big swing in the trade market. They have some caps.

562
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 6: Do they want to go after Romeo Dobbs or Alec

563
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 6: Pierce or Juwan Jennings. I think it's a really good

564
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 6: free agent class, or dive into these guys here at

565
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 6: the draft where it is also very very deep.

566
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: Maybe a combination of both certainly on the table too. Alan,

567
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: let's talk about I know these linebackers were at the

568
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: podium this morning, Rvel Reese. I mean the the Micah

569
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 2: Parsons comparisons are flying. I think there we could get

570
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: to a point where maybe him going too to the

571
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: Jets becomes as assumed as Mendoza. First overall, you think

572
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: he's that type of prospect. Like if I'm looking at

573
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: this class right now and you make me pick one

574
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: guy who's gonna be in Canton, one day. It feels

575
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: like he might be that answer. Caleb Downs would be

576
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: in the conversation Ohio this couple of other of those

577
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: a high state defensive guys.

578
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 4: But how did they not win?

579
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: Well, what happened was, seriously, what happened was this game

580
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 2: of football right for a long time, what's mattered most

581
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: is your big people against your opposition's big people. In Miami,

582
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: these big people kick the crap out of Ohio State's

583
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 2: big people, and they got to pick six. That's how

584
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: Ohio State lost.

585
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 4: I'm just look at these lists of names.

586
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 6: Well, one of those big people is another guy. I

587
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 6: think it's that conversation's Ruby Bain.

588
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: Yes, the edge from from Miami.

589
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 6: Vell by the way he's decided he's going by now, Well,

590
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 6: well he's on the sheet today is just Vell? Oh

591
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 6: good lord, we've lost the ruh. He's a special player.

592
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 6: I don't know how the Jets get away from him.

593
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 6: I'm not sure that he's a guy that in a

594
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 6: normal draft class would be talking about at number two overall,

595
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 6: because the linebacker position doesn't traditionally have that level of value.

596
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 4: But there are aren't a.

597
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 6: Lot of like typically you're like, okay, quarterback left tackle,

598
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 6: edge rusher, And it's just not that deep of a

599
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 6: draft class at those positions, especially at the top where

600
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 6: I think you're gonna see a linebacker. You talk about downs,

601
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 6: a safety another position that isn't usually valued that way.

602
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: Safety is taken in the first round.

603
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 6: Climbing up the board for sure, and then we'll see

604
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 6: where the wide receivers go. Jordan Tyson is the guy

605
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 6: that I really like, is not running here. That's probably

606
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 6: not going to help his stock. He's had injury issues.

607
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 6: So but if it's not a wide receiver, I think

608
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 6: Reese is as good as anybody else.

609
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: If you're talking.

610
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 5: Number two, interesting, you know, uh, Doz is not throwing either, right.

611
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 6: No, he's doing it as Pro Day, which is usually

612
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 6: like next week.

613
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 5: I'm coming around in the opinion that it doesn't really

614
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 5: matter here. If they do well in the pro day,

615
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 5: then all as well.

616
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: It gives you the second chance. Yeah, you get you

617
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: get a do over.

618
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: But if you handle the pro.

619
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: Day, you're good.

620
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 5: And I think you come here and talk to people,

621
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 5: do your interviews, get your medical.

622
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 4: And all the road and the rest of it's kind

623
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: of optional.

624
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 6: And I think we saw with Scheidar Sanders also last

625
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 6: year that I do think there is like a you

626
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 6: kind of have to know who you are.

627
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: If Mendoz is going.

628
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 6: Number one, we all know that unless he just totally

629
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 6: looks awful in the rest of this process, he's going

630
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 6: number one. He can kind of pick and choose who

631
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 6: he wants to talk to, where he wants to throw,

632
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 6: how he wants to do it. But if you sort

633
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 6: of misrepresent the way the league thinks about you in

634
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 6: your dealings with them, I don't think they like that

635
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 6: very much. If you're not as good, if they don't

636
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 6: think you're as good as you think you are, and

637
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 6: the way you act and behave in this process, I

638
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 6: still think they'll hold it against you.

639
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: That's well said. Is ty Simpson clearcut QB two or

640
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: is that still up in the air.

641
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 6: I mean he is throwing, and I think given his

642
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 6: injuries over the course of the season, the elbow, the back,

643
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 6: the rib, he needs to prove something.

644
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: He was not the same guy down the stretch.

645
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 4: That he was.

646
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 6: The last look at him was horrendous, hard to watch,

647
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 6: and so I do think he needs to prove that

648
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 6: he is the guy that we saw at the beginning

649
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 6: of the year and not what we saw at the

650
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 6: end of the year.

651
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: If he does that, then yeah, he's he's definitely quarterback too.

652
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 4: Who's quarterback three?

653
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 6: Oh, I don't know. It probably depends on what you're

654
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 6: looking for. I thought Garrett Mesmeyer was very good at

655
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 6: the Senior Bowl. I thought he clearly was the best

656
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 6: quarterback there. But he doesn't have elite traits. I think

657
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 6: he has a pretty low ceiling for a guy that

658
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 6: you would be drafting in that range.

659
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 5: Just to kind of make a point about how interpretive

660
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 5: or open to interpretation his quarterback class is because it's

661
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 5: so unsettled. I got Carson Beck third, and I'm not

662
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 5: a huge Carson Beck fan.

663
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 6: I have Drew Aller fourth. I was gonna say Aler next.

664
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 6: I mean, I think he's right there.

665
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 5: And he's hard and oh, by the way, he lost

666
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 5: to Oregon UCLA and Northwest started a row before he

667
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 5: got hurt.

668
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 4: My five is the kids from North Dakota State.

669
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: Just because because he could.

670
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: Run well, just that's that's Matt's draft crow.

671
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 6: Honestly, I think so many of these guys in this

672
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 6: class that were so hyped up before the season and

673
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 6: they were big prospects, not Smyron and Clubnick and.

674
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: And al and alor you know.

675
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 6: I think I think peyton Is is taking advantage of

676
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 6: fact that just nobody he hasn't let anybody down yet.

677
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 6: You know, he hasn't had any because nobody's he hasn't

678
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 6: had any expectations that he hasn't met. So I think

679
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 6: that's why you're seeing some hype about it. I didn't

680
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 6: think he was particularly good at the Senior Bowl, but

681
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 6: he wasn't worse than I thought he'd be, which is

682
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 6: what everybody else in this class has done.

683
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: At some point.

684
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 5: I turned on Clemson a couple of times early in

685
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 5: the year and I was like, this is the guy

686
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 5: everybody's saying is oh my god, Like that was bad.

687
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: There was something in the water with Clemson this year

688
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: when you look at the talent that they had, and

689
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just that there something weird was going on.

690
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 5: There also a commentary on the quarterback class. My sleeper

691
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 5: is I got to figure out how to pronounce this

692
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 5: guy's name. It's the kid from from I think it's

693
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 5: Joe Fagano Vignano. Yeah, he's from Maine to Yukon. But

694
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 5: if you throw twenty eight touchdowns at one pick. I

695
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 5: want to see you do some more stuff.

696
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 6: From Williamsport, PA to Maine to you times him at

697
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 6: the Shrine Bowl. Great interview. So I mean, we love that.

698
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: We do love that.

699
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 6: But hey, you know, I I think we've seen over

700
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 6: the years that where you come from doesn't necessarily matter

701
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 6: that much. Now, he had a journey of a college

702
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 6: career and many injuries a seven year career. There's a

703
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 6: reason his draft stocks.

704
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 5: Seven years of college down the tree they're called doctors

705
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 5: is where it is.

706
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 6: But I don't dislike the idea of taking I get

707
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 6: he's just as good as all the rest of these guys.

708
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 4: I think that's that's a kind way to put it.

709
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 5: He's just as good as all the rest of these guys.

710
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: Last thing I wanted to pick your brain on about

711
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: twenty minutes from now, defensive linemen are going to take

712
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: the podium. I feel like there's a chance at pick

713
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: twenty one that DT one could still be on the board.

714
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: You know, last year, you take Derek Harmon at twenty one,

715
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: he was the fourth, you know, interior defensive lineman. You

716
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 2: could have your choice at the first and yeah, you'd

717
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: be going back to the well two straight years. But

718
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: they did that with offensive tackle. If all those guys

719
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: are there, Peter Woods to bring up another Clemson name

720
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: and Lee Hunter and is it McDonald out of Ohio State? Right, yeah,

721
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: Banks from Florida, Caleb Banks absolutely the big guy. Would

722
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 2: you be would you be interested of having your pick

723
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: of of that crop at twenty one?

724
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? And right now.

725
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 6: I mean one of the very interesting things about this

726
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 6: offseason with the Steelers is, like Mike was saying, like,

727
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 6: we don't really know how Mike McCarthy's going to operate.

728
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 6: It's difficult to sort of analyze them from afar. The

729
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 6: other thing is I just think they, yeah, they obviously

730
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 6: need wide receiver, they need a left guard, they they

731
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 6: I think they need a linebacker, especially a run run

732
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 6: stopping linebacker. They probably need a free safety. They definitely

733
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 6: need a corner corner. Yeah, And so there's so many

734
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 6: different directions they could go. And one of the things

735
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 6: talking with Omar is like, I don't think they have

736
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 6: any idea what they're gonna draft. The last three or

737
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 6: four years in a row. By the time I got here,

738
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 6: I was down to about three guys. I'm not down

739
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 6: to three positions right now, and so yeah, it could

740
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 6: be detackle, but also by we get to late April,

741
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 6: like oh no, tackle settled, they got it taken care of.

742
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think we have to be open to

743
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 6: a lot of different outcomes, and I think that's really

744
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 6: good value for that pick.

745
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 3: And I like a couple of those players.

746
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: Alan Saunders kind enough to lend us some of his

747
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: time here on this Wednesday morning on Radio Row. Make

748
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Speaker 2: sure you're checking out all his work Steelers Now dot com.

749
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time to Thanks Fels. We will

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Speaker 2: be back to close down this morning hour when we

751
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Speaker 2: return on the other side, before we do a little

752
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 2: bit of a line change with Jerry Dulac and Rob King.

753
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Speaker 2: Still in the morning phase here of all of our coverage,

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Speaker 2: it's ongoing live from Radio Row inside the Indiana Convention Center,

755
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Speaker 2: West Uler, Mike Persuda, Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

756
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Speaker 2: Back inside the Indiana Convention Center here, I've got one

761
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Speaker 2: more segment to go before we'll do a little line

762
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Speaker 2: change with Jerry Dulac and Rob King Mike Persuda with

763
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Speaker 2: those guys until noon. Then it'll be Kinger, Doulac and

764
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: myself noon to two, and then of course the Drive

765
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Speaker 2: with Matt Williamson from to to five. So still an

766
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: hour number one of eight hours of Steeler's coverage here today,

767
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: I'm getting some reps in much like the much like

768
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: the athletes out here. They got me here, they got

769
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 2: me there. They're poking, they're prodding. I'm on, I'm off.

770
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: You're like you never come off the ice.

771
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 2: Early morning and late. Now you know that's I didn't

772
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: even think about that. How often do you have the

773
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: person that's doing the morning show does the last show too.

774
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I might want to remember these things. And

775
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: contract negotiations roll around.

776
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 4: I'll be your agent.

777
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: What are you taking? Are you just like Shenderovits Genner

778
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: Ocean Fisherman. You got my back and not my wallet.

779
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 4: I'll get money for you.

780
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: Appointing trev I wanted to ask you about some of

781
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: the names that we've mentioned from a Steeler's perpective that

782
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: are gonna be free agents and your interest in bringing

783
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: them back and.

784
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 4: And oh, this is gonna be fun like this let's.

785
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: Start with Isaac Sayamalu at left guard.

786
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 5: The impression I got yesterday and I would be in agreements,

787
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 5: in agreement with this fillmore Khan is thinking the way

788
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 5: I think he is thinking.

789
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 4: I don't think he's coming back. Okay, he mentioned Isaac Samalo.

790
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 5: Then he quickly Omar Khan did mentioned the draft class,

791
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 5: free agency and how good Spencer Anderson played when they

792
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 5: called upon him to do more than be the eligible guy.

793
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 4: How well Spencer Anderson played. So now I just I

794
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: know that he was a real leader for that group.

795
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 5: But I also think that the center, the right guard

796
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 5: and the right tackle or on the fast track, and

797
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 5: they're all really good players, and they're self starters and

798
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 5: they're kind of figuring it out now and they don't

799
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 5: need the elder States big brother anymore.

800
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: Like they'll be the guys leading the charge.

801
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: Sure.

802
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 4: Sure, So I would say, no, he's not coming back.

803
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: That's the way I'm leaning to. And I think when

804
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: you're trying to have a group that develops, you know,

805
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: a young group that develops together. And this is no

806
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: knock on Samalu. He's earned this. He's a veteran, he's

807
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: at that stage of his career, but he got a

808
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: lot of veterans rest days, a lot of limit to

809
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: practice days, and they might want somebody who's going to

810
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: be part of that five every practice, every rep, grow

811
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: and build together.

812
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, it's a great point. Uh.

813
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 5: I get you got to take care of your team.

814
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 5: But I'm also starting to think maybe practice helps and

815
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 5: practice matters.

816
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers seems to take it very seriously.

817
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: Pretty much, everyone right, two.

818
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: Practices all year, except it was because of that risk.

819
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's a great observation by you and that

820
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 5: offensive line new coach, new coaches.

821
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, did every assistant of some kind of offensive line thinking.

822
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: They all did, got like four offensive line coach.

823
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 4: He was great. You know.

824
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 5: I like that as well. But yeah, I appreciate it.

825
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 5: Isaac can say them all when he was here. I

826
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 5: got to tell you, if he does not come back,

827
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 5: I'll miss those times in the locker room when I'd

828
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 5: go up to him and say, Isaac, he got a minute.

829
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: He look at me and go.

830
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: Nah, soft spoken Isaac say them all it.

831
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 5: Which was pretty much every time I think I got.

832
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 5: But he was how long was here?

833
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 4: Three years?

834
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: Three years?

835
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think I got.

836
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 5: Three interviews with him in the three years, and the

837
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 5: three were great, Like, he had so much to say,

838
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 5: but he just didn't like doing media. Hey, I don't

839
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 5: blame him, but when he did it was fascinating. I'm

840
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 5: not being sarcastic or try to. I wish he would

841
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 5: have would have opened up a little more, but that's

842
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 5: who he is.

843
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: You know. Absolutely, he seems like a well respected guy.

844
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: But it might just be it might just be time

845
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: to go in a different direction. What about James Pierre.

846
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: He's a tough He's a tough eval for me because

847
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: he played so well, albeit in a small sample size. Yeah,

848
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: it's kind of a similar same church, different pew. Do

849
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 2: you use one of your lines to the Dylan Cook conversation.

850
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 5: I think he's a layup to come back. I don't

851
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 5: think he hits the open and I know it's a

852
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 5: cornerback starved leg.

853
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 4: I think as your.

854
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 5: Last cornerback and one of your better special teamers, that's

855
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 5: his spot. And I think he's established himself as that here,

856
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 5: although I don't know the old special teams coach is

857
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 5: in uh Tampa now. Yeah, and uh they could use

858
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 5: some help in uh that department, So we'll see. But

859
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 5: I would. I would bring him back. I don't think

860
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 5: you're cann have to break the bank to bring him back.

861
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 5: And although I haven't spoken with James Pierre about this specifically,

862
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 5: I would think he's pretty comfortable here, even though the

863
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 5: coaching staff has changed.

864
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 4: Sure, sure that that might be.

865
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 5: Fast forwarding to an assumption I shouldn't make, because I

866
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 5: guess everybody's got to reevaluate nobody.

867
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 4: Nobody really knows what Mike McCarthy. Yeah.

868
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 5: One of the things Omark kept saying yesterday, a guy's

869
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 5: name would come up and he would say, well, yeah,

870
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 5: he's getting to know the new coaches.

871
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 4: They're getting to know it.

872
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, maybe maybe some perceptions have changed on the

873
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 5: part of the staff, like Mike McCarthy and his guys

874
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 5: won't necessarily evaluate these players the way Mike Tomlin and

875
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 5: his guys did.

876
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: So, and for for some guys that might be a

877
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: bad thing. For some guys, like if you're Roman Wilson

878
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: and Kie Johnson, it's breath of fresh air. Yeah, new

879
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: life here in the Black and Gold. Yeah, I would.

880
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 2: I would love to have him back. My only worry

881
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: is because you know, listen, the Steelers have cap space

882
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 2: they're in a good position in that regard. But there's

883
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: a lot of teams in the NFL, with the way

884
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: the cap keeps rising, that are just flush with cap space.

885
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: And you know there's a floor that you have to hit.

886
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 4: Two.

887
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: Everyone knows the salary cap, but there's also the salary floor.

888
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: And some team you know makes makes Pierre an offer

889
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: he can't refuse and doesn't crazy overpay him, but gives

890
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: him a couple extra million bucks because they because they can,

891
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: because they have the space.

892
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 5: Theoretically possible, and he's Pierre's been banging away at this

893
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: for a while now. He's not going to get too

894
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: many more contracts, I wouldn't think, so it might be

895
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 5: time for him to get while the getting's good.

896
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: You don't know, Yeah, totally last one reigning team MVP

897
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: Kenneth Gainwell.

898
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 4: I think that's a slam Doug.

899
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 5: You bring him back, right, Yeah, Aaron Rodgers loves throwing

900
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 5: into the flat.

901
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 4: That's a West Coast thing too, Yes, it is.

902
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: Running back better be able to catch.

903
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 5: I think you're gonna have to pay him some money,

904
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 5: but running backs still aren't making stupid money.

905
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 4: I think he comes back.

906
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: I'll be interesting to see what happens there. I I obviously,

907
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: just on the surface, would would love to have him back.

908
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: I think he was such an asset.

909
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 5: I think he's versatile, and I think if they resolved

910
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 5: the Rogers thing and he's back officially before gain Well

911
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 5: has a chance to go, and then I think it's automatic. Yes,

912
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 5: because fum Kenny Gane. I was like, this guy made

913
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 5: me a stought.

914
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: This guy's been singing my praises and talking about how

915
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 2: good I am all year.

916
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's my champion, you know.

917
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: The only the only thing for me is they need

918
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: a They need a hammer in that running back. Supposed

919
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: to be John supposed to be Caleb Johnson, and his

920
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: story is far from written. That chapter is not.

921
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope, I hope you're right.

922
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 5: I wanted to buy that book so bad last year,

923
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 5: but I think I already fast forward into the ending.

924
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: You're giving up on your on your fellow Big ten

925
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: brethren after one year.

926
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 5: It was not the story I thought it was gonna be.

927
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 5: But if you say they're still being written, I hope

928
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 5: you're right.

929
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: Well, listen, it was not the story I thought it

930
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: was gonna be either, but it would be a different

931
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: conversation for me, if we saw a bunch of him

932
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: and he was a disaster, yeah, but we saw very

933
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: little of him. And yes he had one disaster moment

934
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: against Seattle, but that was the second game of his

935
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: rookie season. On special teams.

936
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: I saw a lot of practices at Saint Vincent.

937
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: Yes you did. And during the regular season, I was.

938
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 4: Who's the guy wearing Johnson's jersey? Was light?

939
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: I thought he I thought he showed some bursts and

940
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: things like that.

941
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 5: I just didn't see any anywhere near what I thought

942
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 5: I was gonna see it anywhere near as much as

943
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 5: I wanted to see it. And you know, and if

944
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 5: he's gonna be and he is, if he's say volume

945
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 5: back that, you know, he starts getting better at carry

946
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 5: ten and better at carried fifteen, that's gonna be a

947
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 5: problem because he's not gonna be just handed a starting

948
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 5: job and say, okay, show us when you get to

949
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 5: carry ten and carry fifteen.

950
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 2: I mean, I get you fired in the National Football Yeah,

951
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: as a coach.

952
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: So I don't know.

953
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 5: I just and I really love I like that big

954
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 5: Hammer guy too. Don't get me wrong, Big drum bettis

955
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 5: Le'Veon Bell slamming up in there.

956
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: Arden short goal line stuff.

957
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 5: Jalen Warren's really good. He is, and I think Ken

958
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 5: Kenny Gain was really good, and I think the line

959
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 5: will continue to improve.

960
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: I thought they were to continue to do the brotherly shove.

961
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 4: I thought they were well.

962
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 5: I don't know if Connor Hayward's back, Uh, he was

963
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 5: the key, of course. I don't know that they knew

964
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 5: how good a running team they were. I don't think

965
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 5: they ran the ball enough last year. I was probably

966
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 5: some of that's an Arthur Smith thing. I think some

967
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 5: of that's one of the negatives you get with Aaron

968
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 5: Rodgers that you have to live with.

969
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: I think that's that's clear.

970
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 5: But he's checking out. He's not checking out of a

971
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 5: past to a run.

972
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: Correct, correct, and the other way around. And it happens

973
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: often and he has certainly earned that right, but that

974
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: doesn't mean he's always right.

975
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 5: Well, I'd love Aaron, and we talked to about how

976
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 5: we think he should come back in a good fifty.

977
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 4: He's not a perfect player.

978
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 5: Nobody is, and there are positives and negatives associated with

979
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 5: everybody's game.

980
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 4: And that's one associated with Airs.

981
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'll gain well and then you know the

982
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 5: special teams think to score a touchdown and they go

983
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 5: cover the subsequent kickoff.

984
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: I love that.

985
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: It is great, It is fantastic. You need those type

986
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 2: of guys in the locker room and on the roster.

987
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 2: We're gonna do a little bit of a line change here.

988
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: Rob King and Matt Williamson are going to slide in

989
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: with Pursuda for the next two hours until the noontime.

990
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: Our coverage goes until five pm, eight hours, nine to five.

991
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: Like Dolly Parton here every day on Radio Row for

992
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: Mike Persuda, I'm West Shuler. It's all been part of

993
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: our ongoing coverage that continues.

994
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 4: For live other teams. Here's the combine with the amount

995
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: of ongoing coverage.

996
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about the Jets. The Jets media people were like,

997
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: you guys do eight hours of live radio a day.

998
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: What's the matter with you? You psychos? We were like, yeah,

999
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: that's why we got six Lombardies and Yan's call one

1000
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: Bulert pursuit inside the Indiana Convention Center. All part of

1001
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: our ongoing.

1002
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Speaker 4: Head Get that from a guy from beaver Falls, the one.

1003
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: The one, of course, Broadway Joe, the Cradle of Quarterbacks

1004
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 2: that we'll learn more about on the Football Town. The

1005
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: fun NFL Films feature on Pittsburgh that is debuts here

1006
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 2: this weekend, actually at the Cayman Science Center. All Right,

1007
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: that's enough of me. King and Williamson slide in with

1008
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: pursuit of next all part of our ongoing coverage here

1009
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Speaker 2: on Radio Row. It's the combine Steelers Nation Radio on

1010
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Speaker 2: a Steelers audio network.