Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about
Speaker 1: that high school drama, girl drama, girl, all about them
Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in
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Speaker 1: girl fashion, but your tough girl, you could sit with us.
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Speaker 1: Queen's Hell. Love. Friends, that we missed you, Hi, I
Speaker 1: missed you guys too bad. You weren't off doing anything important.
Speaker 1: I know. That's how you know your friends have your back,
Speaker 1: and they're like, take some time off for your honeymoon?
Speaker 1: Did you so? Thank you much? You're you look fantastic.
Speaker 1: Did you take a vacation for the first time in
Speaker 1: your adult life? Sophia, I couldn't believe it, I said too.
Speaker 1: I said to Grant. I was like, I feel like
Speaker 1: we've been away for a year. He was like, well,
Speaker 1: it's been two weeks so far, and you might need
Speaker 1: to take more vacations. And I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how this works, but it is so good to
Speaker 1: be back with you. Angels. We are here for season three,
Speaker 1: Episode eight, The Worst Day Since Yesterday, which aired originally
Speaker 1: on November two thousand five. It is the first game
Speaker 1: of the season for the Tree Hill Ravens. Brooke is
Speaker 1: reeling from her drunken mistake Let's call it a drunken disaster.
Speaker 1: Dr Lucas choices us making poor choices. After Lucas found
Speaker 1: her in bed with Chris Keller in the most incredible
Speaker 1: camera reveal of all time, she decides to take matters
Speaker 1: into her own hands with her designs Peyton and Hayley
Speaker 1: mint fences to support Brooke in her time of need.
Speaker 1: Ncas is having a hard time focusing on the game,
Speaker 1: and Karen and Dan continue their campaigns on the radio,
Speaker 1: but Karen is presented with some damning video recording by
Speaker 1: Mouth always the hero Don't Don't. I liked this episode.
Speaker 1: We had some doozies that I was not into, but
Speaker 1: this one was like back to happy sad, happy sad.
Speaker 1: That's the balance of the show, you know, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some fun stuff happening. It kept my interest the
Speaker 1: whole time. I was like, what's going to happen, What's
Speaker 1: going to happen. It didn't feel like it was lagging
Speaker 1: or it didn't feel like an episode where the writer's
Speaker 1: room was just desperately trying to patch something together so
Speaker 1: they can keep the episode going. You know, no more
Speaker 1: bottle episodes of weirdness. And so much of the dialogue
Speaker 1: felt real. I felt like, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: people were ad living a little more freely in this
Speaker 1: episode because you know, the director was giving them permission
Speaker 1: to or what. But so many convert stations felt really
Speaker 1: real and snappy and quirky, and it didn't feel like dialogue. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I always love seeing the three of us together too.
Speaker 1: There's something something magical about those scenes. And the boys
Speaker 1: are fine. The boys are fine. We love them. Everyone
Speaker 1: knows that we love them. But the scenes were were together.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I just love you guys. This show
Speaker 1: is fun. I love it. Step away from the Kike. Yes,
Speaker 1: when you guys walk into the apartment and I just
Speaker 1: have my face in a tropol Okay, good god, I
Speaker 1: think I ate like four cakes that day. It was miserable.
Speaker 1: It just felt good. I was like, I want to
Speaker 1: watch this for an hour. Did he sing to you? Yes? Scene?
Speaker 1: It was so good together and the humor in it,
Speaker 1: everyone trying to help been saying the wrong thing. And
Speaker 1: each of us saying something as advice but then realizing
Speaker 1: it was like a diss to something else someone had done,
Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna leave them a message. I'm sorry. Look.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Sophia, you're so good at being overwhelmed
Speaker 1: by shames. The amount I literally wrote that, you guys
Speaker 1: in my notes. It's notes notes, Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: a groupie, and in all caps the shame. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've all done that. We've all either kissed the person
Speaker 1: or like hooked up with the person that we have
Speaker 1: to explain later. And it is such a miserable feeling,
Speaker 1: like the worst and laughable later. You got to give
Speaker 1: yourself like a grace period. We can laugh at for
Speaker 1: brook now, but oh yeah, in the moment, in the moment,
Speaker 1: it's so awful. I remember even doing that scene where
Speaker 1: Lucas walks in and it looks like Brooks alone in
Speaker 1: the bed and then Chris pops up behind her, and
Speaker 1: even filming the scene felt like a nightmare, like I
Speaker 1: knew I could see even though I was in it.
Speaker 1: It was like I had a bird's eye view. I
Speaker 1: had like left my body and I was up in
Speaker 1: the corner and I was like, this is awful. Were
Speaker 1: you freaked out about like the fans reactions like were
Speaker 1: you at all? Where like they're going to revolt? And
Speaker 1: think you know, because I can watch it now and
Speaker 1: still be team Brooke and be like, but she said
Speaker 1: they weren't exclusive, what do you want? You know? I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I knew people would be upset, But what I will
Speaker 1: say I appreciated is that, you know, sometimes the writers
Speaker 1: would want to wrap up a storyline in an episode
Speaker 1: which doesn't ever let you dig into something. And for
Speaker 1: all of the beginning of season three, you're really seeing
Speaker 1: how Brooke is trying to learn to cope with her
Speaker 1: feelings and she doesn't know how to get over feeling betrayed,
Speaker 1: and she wants to trust him but she just can't
Speaker 1: and she's scared. So I felt like, I mean, I
Speaker 1: felt like it was a step too far. I was like, cod,
Speaker 1: she's gotta like bang this guy. We're teenagers. But I
Speaker 1: also thought so many people look for outlets for their
Speaker 1: pain that are not healthy, and when you're a kid
Speaker 1: and you don't have the language, like I could understand
Speaker 1: it if it had happened in the second episode of
Speaker 1: season two or three. I think it would have been real,
Speaker 1: real bad. Yeah, yeah, I love that about Brooke. Brook
Speaker 1: is so good at living messy, living messy, just big
Speaker 1: and loud and messy, and the same way that Peyton
Speaker 1: is so um aggressively chasing after life. I feel like
Speaker 1: every day ship Peyton is just like there's a fire
Speaker 1: in her belly always and wherever she is, whatever she's doing,
Speaker 1: she's even when she's tender, it's just like her your
Speaker 1: heart on your sleeve all the time. Everything you know
Speaker 1: or it's like it's bottled up, but your heart is
Speaker 1: always under sleep. I don't know how to explain that,
Speaker 1: but that's one of the things I love about Peayton.
Speaker 1: But for Brooke, you're so big and messy. It's just
Speaker 1: a big, giant, messy life. And to be able to
Speaker 1: do that, um, I think it's actually really beautiful. I
Speaker 1: maybe I just envy it because I wasn't able to
Speaker 1: live that way for a long time in my life,
Speaker 1: and I'm just starting to discover the freedom of what
Speaker 1: that feels like. You are living right now, yes, but
Speaker 1: you know it's it's hard to do. And I think
Speaker 1: you can see it in Haley because she's she's a
Speaker 1: lot more bottled up and controlled and just trying to
Speaker 1: do everything the right way. And Brooke certainly has I
Speaker 1: feel like she's got pure motives all the time. But
Speaker 1: it's just that she allows herself to be a mess
Speaker 1: and it's kind of great. She's puppies, like Brooke, Davis
Speaker 1: is fun to look at and really fun to pet
Speaker 1: and fun to play with. But sometimes they shoot on
Speaker 1: the floor and you just have to be okay with
Speaker 1: that if you like puppies. Guys, I had big puppy
Speaker 1: energy for a long time, and it took me a
Speaker 1: while to be like, oh, if I as a person,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna love this big Sometimes that's going to be
Speaker 1: really messy, all right, I'd rather love everybody, man, No,
Speaker 1: we this is a fun episode two because we got
Speaker 1: a real basketball game out of this episode, right. This
Speaker 1: basketball game was shot so well. This is the most
Speaker 1: interesting basketball game we've had on the series. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: it was and it's as much basketball as I can handle,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, like that montage was a solid three
Speaker 1: and a half minutes. Girls and Jack's Mannekins song, Yes
Speaker 1: it was. I wonder if that's how they got their
Speaker 1: rights to the song. Was that they had to agree
Speaker 1: to play the entire the song in its entirety in
Speaker 1: the episode, because you know how they chopped things up sometimes,
Speaker 1: Oh so you can pay less? Is that how? It was?
Speaker 1: Like furgular song? Right? So Jet? Yeah? That that album
Speaker 1: Jack's Mannequin? You know what was it? What was the
Speaker 1: name of that album? Do we know? It was? Like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a really good album. And I
Speaker 1: think they were courting him to come on the show
Speaker 1: because he hasn't come on yet, has he not yet?
Speaker 1: Not yet? He comes on eventually and like shot a
Speaker 1: music video and really became like one of our you know,
Speaker 1: raw ra artists. Um, but this was I think their
Speaker 1: way of kind of like stroking his ego and be like,
Speaker 1: hey man, we want a whole song. We only gave
Speaker 1: really gave these other guys like forty five seconds, but
Speaker 1: we're going to do an entire basketball montage a mixtape
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be freaking radical. Was it? Wait? Our
Speaker 1: producer just dropped a note in the chat? Was it
Speaker 1: everything in transit? I want to google this? Hold on?
Speaker 1: This would make selfun did this? Um? We had as
Speaker 1: John Asher directed this episode? Is that right? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He did a really nice job with the sports, I
Speaker 1: have to say, and the comedy too. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of everything in Transit two. Genius. There you go.
Speaker 1: Asher was always really good with movement. He did a
Speaker 1: lot of like really a live movement, and I think
Speaker 1: it especially in an episode like this, like even Hillary,
Speaker 1: when you and I go into the store and we're
Speaker 1: stealing all the clothes back, like we're moving through the
Speaker 1: store the whole time, there's never stillness, and it adds
Speaker 1: an element of excitement. Yeah, it's very cool. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: part of why the episode felt like it was flowing
Speaker 1: so well and moving so quickly from storyline to storyline. Everything,
Speaker 1: all the pieces kind of kept moving. I think it
Speaker 1: helped that he's a really young He was a really
Speaker 1: young director. He was only a few years older than us,
Speaker 1: you know, and having that kind of shorthand. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that grew up in the business. His
Speaker 1: parents were in Hollywood, like has been around in his
Speaker 1: whole life, so he had just as most experience as
Speaker 1: every other director we worked with. But he was just
Speaker 1: a baby um, and we could improvise with him, like
Speaker 1: to your point earlier, Joy, we could add live because
Speaker 1: he was like, yes, let them just say it the
Speaker 1: way they want to say it. And yeah, sometimes older
Speaker 1: school directors aren't as game for that. You know, you're
Speaker 1: bringing the wild kid. I always felt really creative when
Speaker 1: when Asher was around, like we could just play and
Speaker 1: have fun and didn't take it so seriously. You know,
Speaker 1: which it really turns out usually turns out the best
Speaker 1: performance in my opinion. Well, and it's an interesting point
Speaker 1: you make Hill about sometimes with older directors there's a stiffness,
Speaker 1: and I think especially when you know someone who's in
Speaker 1: their fifties is coming in to deal with a bunch
Speaker 1: of kids that are twenty two, they're like listen, kids,
Speaker 1: and you're all You're like, okay, Because you just got
Speaker 1: out of college. You're like used to shutting up when
Speaker 1: your professor tells you to. And it can be intimidating
Speaker 1: to try to play with an authority figure. But to
Speaker 1: like play with someone who kind of reminds you of
Speaker 1: like your cool young uncle who you always called your
Speaker 1: cousin because he doesn't feel old enough to be your uncle.
Speaker 1: Like it's a different energy for sure. Yeah, he's going
Speaker 1: to play dodgeball with us after work, like like drink
Speaker 1: with us when we wrap. You know. Also, God, I
Speaker 1: wish we had him on the episode because I have
Speaker 1: a question to being a movement. When Nathan goes in
Speaker 1: to tell Chris Kelly's that dick, and Chris thinks it's
Speaker 1: about Brooke and then Nathan shoves him, Tyler fell all
Speaker 1: the way over that chair in a way that like
Speaker 1: he felt real. Yeah, that did, because there's no stop, Matt.
Speaker 1: You can see you can see the floor. So only
Speaker 1: when we do a stunt like that, they like frame
Speaker 1: it so that you can't see the floor, so there
Speaker 1: could be something that there's nothing there. I think the
Speaker 1: camera department was just like we called it. We called it.
Speaker 1: I think I bet John told Tyler just fall just
Speaker 1: like let him, don't try and stop yourself, just fall over.
Speaker 1: And he wonders if like he was just standing so
Speaker 1: close to the chair and James bopped him and he
Speaker 1: just went that could have been it too, Like it
Speaker 1: was so genuine and embarrassing. Yeah. I love that Tyler
Speaker 1: was so game for it though, because you know, he
Speaker 1: didn't try and stop and be like oh whoa, I
Speaker 1: didn't give he just he something right along with it.
Speaker 1: You know those memes where It's just like in sports,
Speaker 1: like a basketball you know somebody it pretends like they've
Speaker 1: been fouled and they just throw themselves on the floor
Speaker 1: like it's a little shove. But the next thing you know,
Speaker 1: they're like twenty feet away and they're holding their knee
Speaker 1: and remember, what are you doing? Oh, we kind of
Speaker 1: pounded on Chris Keller in this episode. I love slapping
Speaker 1: him in this episode. And then that's like one of
Speaker 1: those things that fans want to like have Tyler and
Speaker 1: I recreate all the time. They're like, you guys have
Speaker 1: done so many Christmas movies, but we like it better
Speaker 1: when you hit each other. When you guys walked in
Speaker 1: there so pissed, enjoy you started in on him, and
Speaker 1: then Hillary you watched in. I literally, while we were
Speaker 1: watching it, thought hit him and then you did. I
Speaker 1: was like, I really really liked the Haley Peyton stuff
Speaker 1: in this episode because I never understand me. We've talked
Speaker 1: at nauseum about like why Peyton's being a dick to
Speaker 1: Haley Um, But I appreciate that there are there's prob
Speaker 1: progress in this episode, you know, like like Haley and Nathan,
Speaker 1: She's not groveling anymore. Like things are feeling nice and
Speaker 1: Halien Peyton, there's progress there because people are just talking
Speaker 1: about how they feel. It's just feeling so MOPy. Everybody
Speaker 1: was moping for a while, so it's nice. Lucas really
Speaker 1: is the only one moping now well, And even when
Speaker 1: Nathan called it out, Nathan was like, just forgive her man,
Speaker 1: Like God, so good. There's something I was thinking about
Speaker 1: watching that scene with you guys in the car, which
Speaker 1: was so nice. We'll make shot nice, Sophia not it's
Speaker 1: green screen. Well it was a very bad green screen,
Speaker 1: but very good act your parts. I totally like NS
Speaker 1: and I was good, but you guys were so good.
Speaker 1: And you know, we were talking earlier about how Brooke
Speaker 1: doesn't have the language to cope with how she's feeling.
Speaker 1: And there's a shared understanding when Brooke needs help, because
Speaker 1: Hailey and Peyton are two women who have screwed up
Speaker 1: and have worked their way or are working their way
Speaker 1: into forgiveness for their mistakes and and and into forgiving themselves.
Speaker 1: And when they see that Brooke needs that, it kind
Speaker 1: of saws things between them. And then in the car,
Speaker 1: the first young person who seems to really be able
Speaker 1: to admit what she's feeling in this episode is Peyton,
Speaker 1: and she says, well, I think the reason I've been
Speaker 1: being such a bit is because everybody leaves and you're
Speaker 1: the only one who's come back, and I'm taking out
Speaker 1: all that anger on you. And I was like, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1: That's that heart on her sleeve stuff I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: She's so honest and it has nothing if not honest
Speaker 1: and edged sword. Guys in my own life. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to have to not be Payton story
Speaker 1: in real life because I think, you know, these were
Speaker 1: formative years for us, and I was kind of that
Speaker 1: person anyway. That was just like, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: exactly what I think, whether it's good or bad or whatever.
Speaker 1: And there's a good obviously, there's like a good part
Speaker 1: to that too. But sometimes revisiting our sordid youth and
Speaker 1: seeing you know, myself act like Peyton, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: why was I so combative? Who we could temper things
Speaker 1: as an adult. Let's just we don't to tell the
Speaker 1: whole truth, Let's just tell a fraction of fourth. I
Speaker 1: like this with Haley and Peyton too, because I never
Speaker 1: had a sister growing up, always wanted one, but never did,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that. I had a lot of
Speaker 1: friendships where I knew how to fight and that it
Speaker 1: was okay if you fight, like it's actually okay and
Speaker 1: probably healthy, and then you just apologize or you know,
Speaker 1: figure out what happened and then find your way back. Um,
Speaker 1: and you didn't have sisters either, Hillary, Uh, well, neither
Speaker 1: to do so, I mean, but so like I was
Speaker 1: part of like a big pack of chicks though, Like
Speaker 1: I had the same girls from you know, sixth grade
Speaker 1: through graduation and then lived. Oh yeah, my girlfriends from
Speaker 1: home were like sisters, you know, and then I went
Speaker 1: to I went to school and had to live with
Speaker 1: nine women in the dorm. So I had had a
Speaker 1: little bit of practice, but not you know, I wanted
Speaker 1: that's huge. I never got that, and I always wondered,
Speaker 1: how go ahead? So what were you gonna say? No,
Speaker 1: I was going to say, that's amazing. I mean because
Speaker 1: as a kid, we moved a lot. So I had
Speaker 1: two great friends, but every couple of years I'd move
Speaker 1: and then we'd have to sort of start over. And
Speaker 1: my experience when our show started is the friends I
Speaker 1: had made in high school did not like it. What
Speaker 1: they didn't translate, like it really didn't turn and it
Speaker 1: was really ugly and sad, and I have I have
Speaker 1: three girlfriends that I've had since middle school, but like,
Speaker 1: truly I don't talk to anyone else I went to
Speaker 1: high school with like it was. It was like pretty
Speaker 1: cruel and that experience mixed with like, you know, the
Speaker 1: stuff we all carry from when we're kids in our
Speaker 1: little brains don't know how to process things. For me,
Speaker 1: because I didn't have siblings, fights I learned in my family,
Speaker 1: especially with like the dysfunction at the sort of level
Speaker 1: of my grandparents, was that if you fought and people yelled,
Speaker 1: everything was nuclear, like the world was over. So there
Speaker 1: were things in my twenties that I learned to just
Speaker 1: not say and I just internalized like fear, anxiety, sadness,
Speaker 1: feeling like the odd man out kind of vibe. And
Speaker 1: it took me until much later, And it took me
Speaker 1: until like really making like the core best friends that
Speaker 1: you have been in my life for the last fifteen
Speaker 1: years to unlearn some of those things, to have people
Speaker 1: say no, you can tell us stuff and we can
Speaker 1: get in an art like an argument isn't a fight.
Speaker 1: Arguing is okay. Sometimes you have to argue to get
Speaker 1: to the point. Sometimes you sit on the couch and
Speaker 1: cry and bury your soul and someone cries with you
Speaker 1: and then you feel better. But like, arguing is part
Speaker 1: of communicating sometimes, and that has been so powerful. But
Speaker 1: I just I didn't have examples of that as a
Speaker 1: kid at all. That is hard to find, yeah, outside
Speaker 1: of your family, because the thing about family is you're
Speaker 1: stuck with them no matter what. So there's you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, there's a there's a sort of a
Speaker 1: safety net there. Um. Obviously you have to be careful
Speaker 1: not to abuse that privilege, but there is a safety
Speaker 1: net there. And and I also moved around a lot
Speaker 1: as a kid, and yeah, and I think I guess
Speaker 1: living in big cities to New York in l A,
Speaker 1: I've found that that's extra hard because everybody sort of
Speaker 1: keeps everybody at an arms length. And so if someone
Speaker 1: does something that people are like, you know, a friend
Speaker 1: might be like, I can't believe she did that. I
Speaker 1: can't believe uh whatever that that it would they just
Speaker 1: stopped talking, like And I've been I've been guilty of
Speaker 1: it too, and I'll notice behavior and someone that I'm
Speaker 1: like becoming friends with, and then I'm like, hmmm, I'm
Speaker 1: just going to distance myself. And sometimes that's good, but
Speaker 1: not always. Sometimes it's worth being like, hey, do you
Speaker 1: know that, like you actually interrupt me literally every single
Speaker 1: time that I'm talking. And I don't know if you
Speaker 1: know that you do that? Not you, but you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, I have friends like those kinds of
Speaker 1: things that you would never say to people. You're just like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm sick of hanging out this person
Speaker 1: because all they do is interrupt me and it doesn't occur.
Speaker 1: You know. Now that, um, I'm getting older and I
Speaker 1: just have more experience, I start realizing like, oh, some
Speaker 1: people just aren't aware that they do. It doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that they're narcissist or they're self centered or they're like
Speaker 1: not worthy of being friends. They just I'm just using
Speaker 1: this as an example. But you know, um, but there's
Speaker 1: things that that instead of working through them, you just
Speaker 1: move on to a new friend until there's friction and
Speaker 1: then just move on to somebody else. And because I
Speaker 1: never had sisters growing up, it's been hard to find
Speaker 1: girl girlfriends. Living in big cities where you know, feel
Speaker 1: safe to just have a big disagreement but still love
Speaker 1: each other and come right back. One of the reasons
Speaker 1: why I'm so grateful for what we have here. I
Speaker 1: just feel terrible. I wish I'd known all this, because
Speaker 1: like when we were kids, we didn't talk about like
Speaker 1: our upbringings or like the difference between being an only
Speaker 1: child or being one of a lot of kids, And
Speaker 1: so I always fight, and so I can only imagine
Speaker 1: how awful I was for you guys to experience, because
Speaker 1: I'd be like, what the are you doing about that?
Speaker 1: You know, like, because for me, I have a feeling
Speaker 1: for five minutes and then it's over and then it's
Speaker 1: just like, okay, what are we singing a karaoke? But
Speaker 1: I can only imagine how traumatizing that was for you too,
Speaker 1: And so I'm just like, I'm really sorry, like I'm
Speaker 1: feeling really emotional about it because you don't you don't
Speaker 1: know like I I do. Come at everything like Peyton
Speaker 1: like splat, this is the feeling. Okay, well I do
Speaker 1: that more now. I'm way more like that now. But
Speaker 1: also what a gift like, because yeah, for sure there
Speaker 1: were there were early times like I totally have a like,
Speaker 1: so you and I gotten a fight about something and
Speaker 1: then everything was different. But isn't it interesting that years
Speaker 1: later we realized that he who shall not be named
Speaker 1: knew we got in a fight about something and then
Speaker 1: got in both of our ears because he didn't want
Speaker 1: us to make up, And it took us a long
Speaker 1: time to get there. I mean long, it's short really
Speaker 1: and now the grand scheme of things, but it's really amazing,
Speaker 1: I think in the way that we all talk about
Speaker 1: how this has been such a gift for us, and
Speaker 1: it's fun for us, and it's ridiculous and it's delicious,
Speaker 1: and it's all these things. But we've each, separately and
Speaker 1: together when asked about this, talked about how healing this is.
Speaker 1: We've been able to sort of re It's like we've
Speaker 1: reparented our younger selves together and not to be like
Speaker 1: so woo woo, but in the sort of generational tradition
Speaker 1: of women like being the ones who collect in the village,
Speaker 1: we've we've healed our little village. And I think, especially
Speaker 1: like Joy and I have talked a lot about this,
Speaker 1: learning things about how our brains have worked that we
Speaker 1: didn't know when we were younger to find safety in
Speaker 1: women when your lack of tools as a young woman
Speaker 1: made you think, Oh, I'm the one who's not safety.
Speaker 1: Everyone else has a thing, but I don't have the thing.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna hang out over here. And like,
Speaker 1: I love everybody, but I think everybody's secretly hates Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, always to unn that, like to scoop that
Speaker 1: out of your innerds and have space for this, like
Speaker 1: I wish this for everyone. Yeah, absolutely, more of the story. Kids,
Speaker 1: Just say it, Just say the thing, to say the thing,
Speaker 1: and then move on say the thing. And in fact,
Speaker 1: it's probably why Peyton and Haley were able to hear
Speaker 1: their heal their relationship because for last five episodes, I
Speaker 1: guess since Peyton has been mad at her, she's been
Speaker 1: very direct, I'll tell you exactly why I'm mad at
Speaker 1: you and her, and then that's it. And and Haley
Speaker 1: has had a couple of things to say about it
Speaker 1: as well. And even though they didn't resolve it, they
Speaker 1: were both being honest. And the honesty is so important.
Speaker 1: So don't be passive aggressive with your friends. Don't be
Speaker 1: you know, everything's fine, it's fine. Whatever you said, it's fine,
Speaker 1: it's not fine. If your friend says it's fine, just
Speaker 1: like pusher, no it's not. And you know what, I
Speaker 1: will say, we didn't have this language when we were
Speaker 1: in high school or twenty year olds pretending to be
Speaker 1: in high school. One of the most helpful tools that
Speaker 1: I've learned in recent years is to say, I don't
Speaker 1: know what your experience is right now, but what I'm
Speaker 1: experiencing is what I'm feeling is not off base or
Speaker 1: is there something like to just make enough room for
Speaker 1: someone to realize that the two of you might be
Speaker 1: having different experiences, your vulnerability, your experience is painful that
Speaker 1: I have found can be such a key to having
Speaker 1: a constructive Oh no, this is what I'm thinking, or yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of annoyed me, but I didn't mean to
Speaker 1: hold on to it or whatever, rather than a I
Speaker 1: didn't say that and then it turns in but you know,
Speaker 1: you know what, I started a little bit of space.
Speaker 1: That is such good advice. I heard something kind of
Speaker 1: similar the other day. Not the other day, which is
Speaker 1: probably like two years ago. The other day. Time time
Speaker 1: is a construction. We don't know what time is anymore,
Speaker 1: but it was somebody and I started incorporating this into
Speaker 1: my communication, which somebody said, Um, I I feel like
Speaker 1: this is what's happening. I'm having a desire to commit
Speaker 1: to win emotion and I but I don't. I need
Speaker 1: information from you. You have to tell me before I
Speaker 1: can commit to an emotion in this scenario, so I
Speaker 1: need some info. And it was so great, and I've
Speaker 1: started using that. UM and it's great because it gives
Speaker 1: you a pause. You can just take that. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm dog sitting for a friend of mine, and the
Speaker 1: first three nights I was here, UM, another friend of
Speaker 1: hers came and picked up the dog and took the
Speaker 1: dog to the house and dog sitting and I eventually
Speaker 1: on the third day, I was like because then I heard,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, the dogs are gonna go to somebody else's
Speaker 1: house for a couple of days. And I was like,
Speaker 1: do you. I was like, I feel like you don't
Speaker 1: trust me with your dog, and UM, but you asked me,
Speaker 1: you know, like so before I commit to how I
Speaker 1: feel about that and like making up that whole story
Speaker 1: in my head and what I'm gonna do about it.
Speaker 1: I was really like the information from you, and of
Speaker 1: course it was like, no, it's not about you and
Speaker 1: all the dogs on the other side of town. It's
Speaker 1: the easiest way to get her back here. We didn't
Speaker 1: want to put you out by making you drive all
Speaker 1: the way out there to get her. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's like not about you at all. It's fine. So
Speaker 1: that I could just relax and release it, and I
Speaker 1: didn't carry it around all day like I had been
Speaker 1: all morning, like oh my gosh, am I like people
Speaker 1: don't trust me with their pets. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: I can be get irresponsible, but I raised a child.
Speaker 1: I raised a child. Have you seen my beautiful child?
Speaker 1: I can do It's okay, that's hilarious, joy, but you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like just being able to say
Speaker 1: I need info before I can commit to an emotion.
Speaker 1: Here I need info and you and Nathan are communicating
Speaker 1: so well as because here's here's the important thing. Your friendships,
Speaker 1: especially when you're younger, our practice for your long term relationships,
Speaker 1: and if you want to get married, your marriages right,
Speaker 1: and so practicing healthy fighting is honey. Come on for
Speaker 1: your engagements whatever you collect I understand the collective marriages
Speaker 1: because um or you know, life is long, you know,
Speaker 1: do whatever you want baby um, but it is you
Speaker 1: have to practice with your friends in order to be
Speaker 1: UM well exercised in that for your like more intense relationships.
Speaker 1: And Haley is doing that. She's practicing it with her
Speaker 1: friends and committing to Nathan. And she's not groveling anymore.
Speaker 1: She's not sad. She's like so acute in that little outfit,
Speaker 1: just that little Cherland outfit. I loved it. That was fun.
Speaker 1: I started to I was happy to be a cheerleader,
Speaker 1: but I was annoyed that I had to be there
Speaker 1: on game days now, because Haley never had to deal
Speaker 1: there on game days except they were like, come between
Speaker 1: like five and eight night and we'll get your shot in,
Speaker 1: you know. Now, it was like I gotta be there
Speaker 1: all day long. But it's just so stupid. Those are
Speaker 1: champagne problems. I mean, they were paying me. I was
Speaker 1: happy to be there. That scene was so sweet, especially
Speaker 1: to counter that awful violent moment between Dan and Nathan. Obviously,
Speaker 1: he's like he's scared, he's heartbroken, and he walks outside
Speaker 1: and there you are. He says, you leave it for me,
Speaker 1: killed me, Like she's a little safe place for him.
Speaker 1: She was right at the right moment she was there.
Speaker 1: Oh that was so good. Yeah. I like seeing them
Speaker 1: come back together. And it was very sweet, the little
Speaker 1: phone call and yeah, it's the immediate phone call. Super
Speaker 1: super cute. Um. Yeah that back to that thing with
Speaker 1: Dan in the locker room. The abuse, that thing up
Speaker 1: intense abuse. And you said it too when we were
Speaker 1: watching it. Can you imagine how embarrassed, not just embarrassing,
Speaker 1: is like too light of a word. How it's humiliating, humiliating, shame,
Speaker 1: the shame that would create to have to have your
Speaker 1: entire team watch you, the star basketball player, get abused
Speaker 1: by your father and Whitey shows up with the bat.
Speaker 1: Whitey came in hot. It was so good, like chariots
Speaker 1: of fire. And you know it was interesting. I had
Speaker 1: a moment when we were watching it go down because
Speaker 1: the team had walked in white He was at the door,
Speaker 1: he was about to talk, and then Dan came in.
Speaker 1: And when Dan had Nathan up against the locker, I'm going,
Speaker 1: where's Whitey? And then you see the door swinging behind
Speaker 1: him and he's got a bat, and I'm like, God,
Speaker 1: he's so cool. He just went right to his office
Speaker 1: to get a baseball bat. I love that man, just
Speaker 1: who lets Dan in all these spaces? This man is everywhere?
Speaker 1: And I wonder sometimes, like with the scripting of our show,
Speaker 1: like at what point they were just like, screw it,
Speaker 1: We're gonna just let him be everywhere, you know, Like
Speaker 1: it doesn't need to make sense. He's at the river Court,
Speaker 1: he's in other people's homes. He just knows how to
Speaker 1: find everyone all the time. He's a stalker. He can
Speaker 1: just show it. And you made a point, I think, Joy,
Speaker 1: you said, you know who lets parents just walk into
Speaker 1: the locker room, And now that we're talking about it,
Speaker 1: I'm realizing, Well, we've established Dan is a complete narcissist.
Speaker 1: He's abusive. I mean, the way he's manipulating deb in
Speaker 1: this episode, making her own script, it's so gross. Of
Speaker 1: course he would walk right into the locker room because
Speaker 1: he thinks it belongs to him. Yeah, of course, he
Speaker 1: thinks everything belongs to him. I still embothered by the
Speaker 1: inconsistency of the fact that, let me tell you something,
Speaker 1: when one of my daughter's friends parents followed me so far.
Speaker 1: When her friend's parents behave badly, Um, you know something,
Speaker 1: if they yell at one of the kids, or if
Speaker 1: they if there's anything that I hear about it, they come,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you do to him. They come home and
Speaker 1: they're like, so and So's mom are so and So's
Speaker 1: dad did blah blah blah, And you know it's word
Speaker 1: travels fast, and in a small town like Tree Hill,
Speaker 1: world travels fast. So Dan walking into a locker room
Speaker 1: this is being one of the you know, this is
Speaker 1: probably like four d and seventy five on the list
Speaker 1: of things that he's publicly done to his family or
Speaker 1: anybody else. How are people? How is he still running
Speaker 1: for mayor and still see me? Like he's talking at
Speaker 1: the PEP rally. He's like a pillar, a beacon in
Speaker 1: the community. I don't understand. You know, these parents know
Speaker 1: what's up. Their kids are coming home like, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: Dan was rough and up Nathan in the locker room today.
Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like maybe though, that's why
Speaker 1: there's the moment where Mouth has the video, because Dan
Speaker 1: screwed up and he did it front of everybody. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. So much of the insidious stuff that he
Speaker 1: does is in quiet. It's in an aside. He gets
Speaker 1: in your face here in Narcissists know how to look
Speaker 1: presentable to people who don't know them, but at home
Speaker 1: they're monsters and he did it in front of everyone,
Speaker 1: and now there's a video. M Okay, great point. It's
Speaker 1: also worth noting to, Like, I think, because we were
Speaker 1: young when we shot this show and they were older
Speaker 1: than we were, we just kind of took it for granted, like, yes,
Speaker 1: of course it makes sense for a thirty six not
Speaker 1: even they're playing thirty four year old because they were
Speaker 1: supposed to be eighteen when Lucas is born and Lucas
Speaker 1: is only they're playing. Is it even legal for Dawn
Speaker 1: to run for may or do we have to be
Speaker 1: thirty five or something like? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like the idea, So this kind of this idea
Speaker 1: of reputation, you know, as local politicians are just like
Speaker 1: local business people get older, you know, scandals come out
Speaker 1: in your in your forties and your fifties and your seventies,
Speaker 1: you know, like whatever, Dan's really really young. Like maybe
Speaker 1: the the word isn't out there with the voter base
Speaker 1: because they're not people that he went to school with.
Speaker 1: It's people who were like decades older than him, and
Speaker 1: they just remember like the golden kid. On the cover
Speaker 1: of the local newspaper. You know, the kids went to
Speaker 1: school with noise and actual But you know, typically voter
Speaker 1: base is a little bit older, and they're like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's that winner, that's that Scott kid. What a winner.
Speaker 1: Yabout my car from him? I bought my car from
Speaker 1: that boy. What an ambitious young man. Yeah, well, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what happens with this video. I
Speaker 1: love it, and I hope that Karen doesn't high horse
Speaker 1: it and be like, I'm above releasing this. She should.
Speaker 1: I was like, she's going to be classy, and I
Speaker 1: wish she wouldn't. No, I love a smear campaign because
Speaker 1: it's the truth. Tell me the truth. Can release it.
Speaker 1: Karen doesn't have to have anything to do with it.
Speaker 1: She can just be like, whatever you do with that
Speaker 1: is none of my business. But I really hope I
Speaker 1: wake up and see it on the news tomorrow. Well,
Speaker 1: and also, it's a wonderful tool for deb who has
Speaker 1: had Dan dangled this idea of freedom over her head.
Speaker 1: If she's got a video, she can show a judge
Speaker 1: and be like, this man hurts my child. She doesn't
Speaker 1: have to play his game anymore. You know, she's got
Speaker 1: physical over proof. This is the bed day all over
Speaker 1: for Dan Scotty. Oh you know what I will say
Speaker 1: on a on a high note, whether she releases the
Speaker 1: video or not. For Karen, Moira played that moment with
Speaker 1: Karen and Lucas so well, which she goes, well, then
Speaker 1: it's her loss. You know, someone once said to me
Speaker 1: the best way to get over the money to get
Speaker 1: under someone else. Oh my god, I just realized what
Speaker 1: that meant, Like it was so so cute, funny, so cute.
Speaker 1: I am philosophical than that. The scenes between Karen and
Speaker 1: Lucas are so I guess I never clocked him before
Speaker 1: because I didn't have a kid, and now I've got
Speaker 1: this twelve year old boy with a mustache, and I'm
Speaker 1: watching these interactions between a mom and a son and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, these are the conversations that
Speaker 1: I have with Gus. Like we just watched Breakfast Club
Speaker 1: and asked that is this that you guys really talk?
Speaker 1: Because I was watching the episode of like, did boys
Speaker 1: really talk to their mothers that way? Yes, my son,
Speaker 1: we just watched the Breakfast Club and he had so
Speaker 1: many questions and he was so angry with Judd Nelson's
Speaker 1: character because he stuck his face in Molly Ringwald's lap
Speaker 1: under the library table, and Gus was disgusted, and so
Speaker 1: at the end of the movie when they end up together,
Speaker 1: Gus is de gusted and he's like asking me all
Speaker 1: of these questions and like Jeff, for sure Gus would
Speaker 1: be into that character because he's like the edgy one
Speaker 1: with airing and like, yeah, yeah, no part. Gus wanted
Speaker 1: no part of that character. And so having those conversations
Speaker 1: about like sexuality and respect and you know, just kind
Speaker 1: of like ethics with your child, Gus wanted he held
Speaker 1: my hand the whole time we watched the movie. He
Speaker 1: just had his little head on my shoulder so I
Speaker 1: could scratch his hair, like I love seeing it in
Speaker 1: an older boy, you know, like sit down with his
Speaker 1: mommy and be like on the boat of the joke
Speaker 1: of shoulders, mom, and just like cock do it. You know.
Speaker 1: It's not trying to be cool. He's like, mom, all
Speaker 1: the girls are being really mean to me, and nobody
Speaker 1: likes me, and I just wanted to go to homecoming
Speaker 1: with somebody and I'm just going to go pay my
Speaker 1: door black. That was hilarious, So yes, baby, I can
Speaker 1: tell by the black do or other side of the
Speaker 1: house you got jobbed. I love too? Is that in
Speaker 1: a weird way, He also gets mothered by Rachel. Yes,
Speaker 1: she's move on, get over yourself and get out of
Speaker 1: my car. I'm better than this. I was like, yes, girl,
Speaker 1: you go. I loved it the way daniel delivered that line,
Speaker 1: the I'm better than that. You know, she's like you,
Speaker 1: you've been using me to make Brook jealous. That's fine,
Speaker 1: but I'm better than that. And I know that she
Speaker 1: didn't say it in a mean way. She didn't say
Speaker 1: it in a cocky way like Danielle played that so
Speaker 1: totally correct because it was just it was just a
Speaker 1: young woman correcting a young man in a way that
Speaker 1: wasn't malicious that he could hear, and being like, so
Speaker 1: we're done with this. Okay, good, you don't do this
Speaker 1: to me or anybody. Yeah, it would have been if
Speaker 1: we made an arrangement, but you don't get to just
Speaker 1: do this and pretend like we don't know both know
Speaker 1: what's going on. And I liked that she didn't do
Speaker 1: it in a way of like I'm better than this,
Speaker 1: Like she wasn't hurting my feelings. She was just like,
Speaker 1: this is gross. Stop it. I'm not going to tolerate it.
Speaker 1: It was so at I guess that's why it feels
Speaker 1: to me a little bit like Karen and Rachel are
Speaker 1: kind of mirrors for him. They're both looking at him
Speaker 1: in this episode like grow up, stop pouting. Well, and
Speaker 1: it's kind of nice. She's also the one that calls
Speaker 1: out Chris Keller for being a creep coming into the
Speaker 1: high school hitting on teenage. Yes, it's so gross. We've
Speaker 1: talked about it so much. Why boy hanging around? And
Speaker 1: even when he walks in, he goes three cheerleaders. It's
Speaker 1: so right. Then, it's so gross. And she just was like,
Speaker 1: you're disgusting, You're a pervert. And I loved I loved that.
Speaker 1: Somebody said it also, you just said the thing. It's like, Dann,
Speaker 1: is this the episode where the Chris Keller Dan Scott
Speaker 1: theory started? Maybe I know your mother? Oh yeah, that's right. Well,
Speaker 1: apparently this is a fan there's a big fan theory
Speaker 1: that Dan was just dropping a little Easter egg, but
Speaker 1: that Chris Keller is actually Dan's son and Chris is
Speaker 1: the third Scott brother. That's true. I don't think I've
Speaker 1: seen so many fans say that though. They're just like,
Speaker 1: Chris Keller is totally one of Dan's God's kids. He's
Speaker 1: a young Dan. He definitely functions like a young Dan,
Speaker 1: just showing up random places, walking in wherever he thinks
Speaker 1: he belongs, picking up you know, any woman that he
Speaker 1: sees that He's just like, oh you, I'll pick I'll
Speaker 1: pick on you. It's gross. It's super gross. Um, and
Speaker 1: it's Tyler is the only person that I think could
Speaker 1: have made him work in a way that feels lovable,
Speaker 1: because otherwise it just comes off so sleazy. But because
Speaker 1: he is so it's still yeah, he can't help it.
Speaker 1: Even playing a sleazy character, the pure goodness that is
Speaker 1: Tyler seeps through. So you gotta love to hate this guy.
Speaker 1: It's so true. We were we were debating while we
Speaker 1: were watching. We're like, Okay, fans, this is going to
Speaker 1: be our poll for you guys, who does Tyler look
Speaker 1: more like Elvis or Chris Isaac? And I just always
Speaker 1: such a ringer for Chris Isaac. But you're what does
Speaker 1: the Elvis thing is very really I see a lot
Speaker 1: of Elvis to you know what I want somebody to
Speaker 1: do you know how they do those things with couples
Speaker 1: where they put your faces together and tell you what
Speaker 1: your children would look like. I would love for somebody
Speaker 1: to put Elvis and Chris Isaac's together and see if
Speaker 1: it's Tyler home. Okay, somebody's got a project, has that
Speaker 1: app I don't want to download it, I'm lazy, but
Speaker 1: he has it and they could just tweet it to
Speaker 1: us and it would be great. Thank you in advance.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it advance for your help. We're at at
Speaker 1: the point where we should probably take a fan question
Speaker 1: or two if we have any. One of the highlights
Speaker 1: of these bigger episodes is that we have like everybody
Speaker 1: in them, right. You know. We've got Tim being Tim
Speaker 1: with the tramp stamp, which is delicious. We have g
Speaker 1: G being like totally infatuated with all the basketball players,
Speaker 1: which is super a little swoo, she's so cute, and
Speaker 1: we get to see all the boys. And it's nice
Speaker 1: to hear their real names announced at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the game, because our basketball players were a huge part
Speaker 1: of our show and they didn't necessarily have lines, but
Speaker 1: they were important, um and so to hear their real
Speaker 1: names called out over the loud speaker. And then we've
Speaker 1: got our Bevan, who is so funny in this episode
Speaker 1: with her giving Whitey like this is the place, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and then like being the one with Chris Keller that's
Speaker 1: like okay bye, you know, and then she looks at
Speaker 1: Rachel and goes sorry, she's so good and you I mean,
Speaker 1: I think most of our fan base knows that Bevan
Speaker 1: recently lost her husband and she was on our show
Speaker 1: like two months ago talking about how wonderful he is
Speaker 1: and their life that they've built here together in Wilmington's. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't people can't see us because it's
Speaker 1: the podcast, but I'm in a hotel room in Wilmington's
Speaker 1: right now, and what I can say is that we've
Speaker 1: had more time together as a unit in the past
Speaker 1: like six months, Like all of us we've seen each
Speaker 1: other at weddings, at these celebrations of life, you know,
Speaker 1: like we're all able to interact. Convention coming up to
Speaker 1: we're going to be back in Wilmington's. It's um. I
Speaker 1: don't know, the universe putting us together, the gift that
Speaker 1: we have that we got to grow up together, and
Speaker 1: we've got kind of this record of it where we
Speaker 1: get to you know, cheer Bevan on, you know, in
Speaker 1: a moment like this and be like that's our girl. Um,
Speaker 1: it's cool. And and being back here with everyone like
Speaker 1: you guys, I told you we saw our director of photography,
Speaker 1: Peter Kowalski, like Leonora's drove down, Daniel's here. You know
Speaker 1: the magic. I think there are a lot of the
Speaker 1: fan base is like, um, it feels like suspension of belief.
Speaker 1: It's like this was a magical group of people. This
Speaker 1: was like a magical experience, a magical show. It feels
Speaker 1: so weird to be back for the first time post
Speaker 1: pandemic and it's like it's real. You know. It's like
Speaker 1: everyone's out walking the loop. Everyone's like going to the
Speaker 1: Brasserie for dinner. You know, like the magic is just
Speaker 1: real and the community is real. And um, for our
Speaker 1: drama Queens fans that have uh gone to Recess Bevan's
Speaker 1: business that she built here with her husband, that has
Speaker 1: been such a gift and it really means a lot
Speaker 1: to her, it means a lot to the other girls
Speaker 1: that work there. And so if you're coming to Willington,
Speaker 1: well if they're coming to Willington's for the summer, or
Speaker 1: for an anniversary, or for any trip at all, Like
Speaker 1: like Recess is part of the drama Queen's Scavenger Hunt.
Speaker 1: So just make a plan of taking a class with
Speaker 1: any of the teachers there and then yeah, be a
Speaker 1: part of this community because we all know what just
Speaker 1: just like it's so special for us when we meet
Speaker 1: y'all and you're wearing like a close over Brose hat
Speaker 1: or a T shirt with Peyton's art on it. Even
Speaker 1: if spinning is not your thing, Listen, not all of
Speaker 1: us love Cardio. Um you can. You can pop by
Speaker 1: Recess and say hi and get a hat, get a
Speaker 1: T shirt. You can support the business and you can
Speaker 1: do that for our girl because it's I mean, you
Speaker 1: said best, Hillary. It's like such a it's been such
Speaker 1: a season of reunion for us, and it's so odd
Speaker 1: to be sort of celebrating the highest of highs and
Speaker 1: also lifting up our community in moments that are the
Speaker 1: lowest of low And I think what is so beautiful
Speaker 1: to watch is that no matter what it is, we're
Speaker 1: all here, Like whether it was Puppy piling in the
Speaker 1: corner with all of you at my wedding or everybody
Speaker 1: who could flying into Wilmington to hold Bevan. It's like,
Speaker 1: after twenty years, no matter what, everybody's there and it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's the family. It is the most meaningful stuff.
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't have predicted it in a million years,
Speaker 1: you guys, like when we were year olds, Like I
Speaker 1: couldn't never ever have predicted we'd all still be in
Speaker 1: love with each other. And way that's just kind of
Speaker 1: it's wholesome, foundational. Yeah. Yeah, So at some point the
Speaker 1: three of us are gonna have to do a spin
Speaker 1: class together. I can't wait for you. I'm the least
Speaker 1: coordinated woman on the planet. You've seen the cheerleading dances.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you guys want, but we're here
Speaker 1: for each other and that's awesome and um, and we
Speaker 1: appreciate the fan base also being here for us. And
Speaker 1: so we'll answer your questions. Now give us the questions,
Speaker 1: your questions, let us give you the love. Hailey wants
Speaker 1: to know, how did you come up with the name
Speaker 1: Drama Queens for the podcast and how did you all
Speaker 1: come together and decide to do it? Um, Hillary, were
Speaker 1: you the ones that said drama quits one of us.
Speaker 1: Just it was like in the pile of names, we
Speaker 1: were throwing names out. I don't. I don't remember who
Speaker 1: said it. I mean some of the other names we
Speaker 1: were thinking. Remember we started with most likely too. That's right,
Speaker 1: it was most likely too, it's the most likely to
Speaker 1: in the yearbook. And then that actually turned into our
Speaker 1: wheel are most likely to use, like our spin the wheel.
Speaker 1: I don't it was one of YouTube drama queens. Is
Speaker 1: definitely not me. I don't remember it was me. It
Speaker 1: was because I was getting made fun of. It's like
Speaker 1: somebody had made funny like drama queens, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, We're going to turn a negative into
Speaker 1: a positive queen teen drama And it just felt so egotistical.
Speaker 1: How many teen dramas are out there, and for us
Speaker 1: to be like, no, no, no, no no. That was
Speaker 1: so bitchy in the funny way, now in the best way,
Speaker 1: and it's tongue in cheek, and you know what, everybody
Speaker 1: made us feel real bad back then we're taking back
Speaker 1: our calm and it's goddamn it all I'm saying. Those
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of the Teen Choice Awards, we were
Speaker 1: not beloved and we got picked on and so that
Speaker 1: is I've got a chick shoulder about it. While we
Speaker 1: were still on zoom, like that's it, that's the name.
Speaker 1: Oh my goad. I like split screen to my computer
Speaker 1: and I got online and started ordering crowns. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: we're doing it on my crown who deserved this? You
Speaker 1: did have tiaras so fast. I ordered so many options,
Speaker 1: but we went through so many names. We were just
Speaker 1: spitballing for like a week or two, and then finally
Speaker 1: you just said that and we all were like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's it. Bango bango that somebody locked down the LLC
Speaker 1: right now. That's but Sophia brought us the idea of
Speaker 1: podcast because you've been doing work in progress and you
Speaker 1: were like, yes, we can actually like work from home
Speaker 1: and provide yeah, and like make things cool. You know,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of unspoken stuff that fans always
Speaker 1: kind of tiptoed around it conventions in the Q and
Speaker 1: A S and we're like, you know what, let's put
Speaker 1: out the laundry. Let's just let's just do it, do it.
Speaker 1: And there's something I think what I learned, you know,
Speaker 1: doing work in progress is we're so used to doing
Speaker 1: an interview, and they use like a sentence on a
Speaker 1: sound bite. Half the time they take out of context
Speaker 1: for a clickbait title like it's all just yucky. And
Speaker 1: and the length of a podcast allows you to be
Speaker 1: curious two debate thoughtfully to ask questions, well, what do
Speaker 1: you think? What do you think that's interesting? Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: this is a reality or an option I've never thought of,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's a real life. It's like a dinner party.
Speaker 1: And and for us to be able to do that
Speaker 1: together and and not have somebody be like the girls,
Speaker 1: it's like, that's actually not what we said. We'll tell
Speaker 1: you what we have to say. It's so empowering when
Speaker 1: it also was so universally like destined um, because everything
Speaker 1: went right on like the first try, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like Shore I sat down to write that
Speaker 1: theme song and send it to us in like a voice.
Speaker 1: It looks like a little tiny thing, and it was
Speaker 1: just like, what do you guys think? This is this okay?
Speaker 1: And we're like, is this okay? What are you talking about? Match?
Speaker 1: Since it's like when God is opening up all the doors,
Speaker 1: there is just something magical that happens and you just
Speaker 1: take your hands off of it and watch it go.
Speaker 1: And that's what we did. I mean, we showed up
Speaker 1: to do the work, but we didn't have to push
Speaker 1: and bang down doors and not that there isn't a
Speaker 1: season for that, but it's so nice when you just
Speaker 1: see all the doors just opening and you know you're
Speaker 1: on the right track and everything's working. It's a relief.
Speaker 1: Being in flow is such an unmistakable feeling, and you
Speaker 1: feel like it's coming through you, and it's such a
Speaker 1: lesson that not everything has to be that brutal climb
Speaker 1: up the hill with the rock. Yeah, you can just
Speaker 1: like like, you don't have to be a mountain. You
Speaker 1: can be water. So nice. I want to be water rich.
Speaker 1: Here this feel we're water. I love it. I'm just
Speaker 1: the river. You just send things right on down to
Speaker 1: send things right to me. I will take you on
Speaker 1: a boat together the river country. We're going to get
Speaker 1: another on. Can love this if you don't take us
Speaker 1: as your date to like the Grammys when you win
Speaker 1: awards for your country, was like to be real, man,
Speaker 1: I agree on dates, dates for life. Teasing my hair,
Speaker 1: You'll be like, excuse me, I need three seeds. Three
Speaker 1: I'll just sit in one of your laps. I was
Speaker 1: going to say, yeah, okay, So Jackie wants to know,
Speaker 1: what is the biggest mistake you think your care after
Speaker 1: made I feel like you're being targeted right now with
Speaker 1: this Chris Keller thing, Sophia I was about in this episode. Personally, Jackie,
Speaker 1: the biggest mistake, It's hard to know because we've only
Speaker 1: seen up to season in season three, So let's just
Speaker 1: say so between like, you know one and three, what's
Speaker 1: our biggest mistake? Webcam's biggest mistake when when Nathan came
Speaker 1: to say hi to her backstage. Her biggest mistake was
Speaker 1: not saying I love you. I'm so happy to see you.
Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. I'm so confused and freaked out and
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, but I love you
Speaker 1: to death and I will die if you leave. Just
Speaker 1: stay stay here. I will be right back and help
Speaker 1: me figure this out. I need your help. That was
Speaker 1: her big If she had said that, I think everything
Speaker 1: would have changed. Say the thing you said that earlier,
Speaker 1: Just the thing man that this episode. Yeah, yeah, mine's
Speaker 1: cam kids. Don't do that, Like, don't just gross beguard
Speaker 1: yourself on the internet. Man, you gotta get one of
Speaker 1: those post it notes and stick it on those little stickers,
Speaker 1: and I know I've got a band aid on my
Speaker 1: laptop and on. All right, yeah, we all watched that
Speaker 1: Edwards Snowden movie. We're all freeking. It's also gross. Um
Speaker 1: oh man, I think, I mean Brooks made a lot
Speaker 1: of mistakes, but just trying to remember his name, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's un I'd say currently up to season three, episode eight,
Speaker 1: Felix is probably number one and Chris Keller's probably number two,
Speaker 1: only because I like Tyler so much. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you only like and brook only slept with him once,
Speaker 1: and Felix is like an ongoing thing. She made that
Speaker 1: choice multiple times. And that's like cutting like it really is.
Speaker 1: That is that's that's the behavior of self harm. We
Speaker 1: don't do anyone, that's right, all right, we're spending a wheel.
Speaker 1: What do we got this week? Most likely to win
Speaker 1: big in Vegas? Who's because it's because it's also based
Speaker 1: on luck. I probably he would lose it at t Yeah,
Speaker 1: Chris Keller for sure. That kid steps in it. You know,
Speaker 1: just you know, he's working on a record store and
Speaker 1: Tree Hill and all of a sudden he's on like
Speaker 1: a big national tour and you know, oh, um, but
Speaker 1: who in real life? I feel like Antoine is always
Speaker 1: in Vegas, like playing dominoes. I feel in Vegas. So
Speaker 1: that Staff, well, friends, we love you. We're so grateful
Speaker 1: that you show up for us every week. Please as
Speaker 1: a reminder, show up for Bevan right now. Go. Um,
Speaker 1: if you're in Wilmington's go visit Recess. If you are online,
Speaker 1: grab go pick up a hat or a T shirt
Speaker 1: or something and um, you know, send her some love.
Speaker 1: And there is also a go fund me that the
Speaker 1: family put together. Her husband was such an incredibly accomplished
Speaker 1: man and had a business brain and a creative brain
Speaker 1: like nobody else, and he did so much amazing work
Speaker 1: in his own right. He helped her put Recess together
Speaker 1: and it was something that they did as this family dream.
Speaker 1: And so the really cool thing about the go fund
Speaker 1: me that so many of us have shared and we'll
Speaker 1: share it again, is that it raises money for a
Speaker 1: cause that Will was deeply passionate about. And um, we'll
Speaker 1: go to continuing to help Recess as a business. Um
Speaker 1: as everyone figures out, you know what it means to
Speaker 1: to hold that up in in his absence. And it's
Speaker 1: in these moments that you know, people really need us
Speaker 1: to kind of be the bridges from from one reality
Speaker 1: to another. And so there's so many ways to to help,
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