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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about

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Speaker 1: that high school drama, girl drama, girl, all about them

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Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in

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Speaker 1: our comic girl Cheering for the right drama, queens up

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Speaker 1: girl fashion, but your tough girl, you could sit with us.

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Speaker 1: Girl drama, queens drama, Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama, Drawn, Queen's Drama,

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Speaker 1: Queen's Hell. Love. Friends, that we missed you, Hi, I

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Speaker 1: I know. That's how you know your friends have your back,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, take some time off for your honeymoon?

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Speaker 1: Did you so? Thank you much? You're you look fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Did you take a vacation for the first time in

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Speaker 1: your adult life? Sophia, I couldn't believe it, I said too.

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Speaker 1: I said to Grant. I was like, I feel like

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Speaker 1: know how this works, but it is so good to

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Speaker 1: be back with you. Angels. We are here for season three,

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Speaker 1: Episode eight, The Worst Day Since Yesterday, which aired originally

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Speaker 1: on November two thousand five. It is the first game

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Speaker 1: of the season for the Tree Hill Ravens. Brooke is

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Speaker 1: reeling from her drunken mistake Let's call it a drunken disaster.

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Speaker 1: Dr Lucas choices us making poor choices. After Lucas found

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Speaker 1: her in bed with Chris Keller in the most incredible

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Speaker 1: camera reveal of all time, she decides to take matters

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Speaker 1: Ncas is having a hard time focusing on the game,

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Speaker 1: and Karen and Dan continue their campaigns on the radio,

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Speaker 1: but Karen is presented with some damning video recording by

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Speaker 1: Mouth always the hero Don't Don't. I liked this episode.

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Speaker 1: We had some doozies that I was not into, but

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Speaker 1: this one was like back to happy sad, happy sad.

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Speaker 1: That's the balance of the show, you know, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's some fun stuff happening. It kept my interest the

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Speaker 1: going to happen. It didn't feel like it was lagging

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Speaker 1: they can keep the episode going. You know, no more

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Speaker 1: bottle episodes of weirdness. And so much of the dialogue

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Speaker 1: I always love seeing the three of us together too.

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Speaker 1: There's something something magical about those scenes. And the boys

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Speaker 1: are fine. The boys are fine. We love them. Everyone

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Speaker 1: knows that we love them. But the scenes were were together.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, I just love you guys. This show

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Speaker 1: is fun. I love it. Step away from the Kike. Yes,

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Speaker 1: think I ate like four cakes that day. It was miserable.

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Speaker 1: It just felt good. I was like, I want to

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Speaker 1: It was so good together and the humor in it,

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Speaker 1: my gosh, always to unn that, like to scoop that

426
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: out of your innerds and have space for this, like

427
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:47,959
Speaker 1: I wish this for everyone. Yeah, absolutely, more of the story. Kids,

428
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: Just say it, Just say the thing, to say the thing,

429
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: and then move on say the thing. And in fact,

430
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,479
Speaker 1: it's probably why Peyton and Haley were able to hear

431
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: their heal their relationship because for last five episodes, I

432
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: guess since Peyton has been mad at her, she's been

433
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: very direct, I'll tell you exactly why I'm mad at

434
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: you and her, and then that's it. And and Haley

435
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: has had a couple of things to say about it

436
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: as well. And even though they didn't resolve it, they

437
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: were both being honest. And the honesty is so important.

438
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: So don't be passive aggressive with your friends. Don't be

439
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, everything's fine, it's fine. Whatever you said, it's fine,

440
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: it's not fine. If your friend says it's fine, just

441
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: like pusher, no it's not. And you know what, I

442
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: will say, we didn't have this language when we were

443
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: in high school or twenty year olds pretending to be

444
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: in high school. One of the most helpful tools that

445
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: I've learned in recent years is to say, I don't

446
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: know what your experience is right now, but what I'm

447
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: experiencing is what I'm feeling is not off base or

448
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: is there something like to just make enough room for

449
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: someone to realize that the two of you might be

450
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: having different experiences, your vulnerability, your experience is painful that

451
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: I have found can be such a key to having

452
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: a constructive Oh no, this is what I'm thinking, or yeah,

453
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: that's kind of annoyed me, but I didn't mean to

454
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: hold on to it or whatever, rather than a I

455
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: didn't say that and then it turns in but you know,

456
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: you know what, I started a little bit of space.

457
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: That is such good advice. I heard something kind of

458
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: similar the other day. Not the other day, which is

459
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: probably like two years ago. The other day. Time time

460
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: is a construction. We don't know what time is anymore,

461
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: but it was somebody and I started incorporating this into

462
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: my communication, which somebody said, Um, I I feel like

463
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: this is what's happening. I'm having a desire to commit

464
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: to win emotion and I but I don't. I need

465
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: information from you. You have to tell me before I

466
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: can commit to an emotion in this scenario, so I

467
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: need some info. And it was so great, and I've

468
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: started using that. UM and it's great because it gives

469
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 1: you a pause. You can just take that. You know.

470
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm dog sitting for a friend of mine, and the

471
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: first three nights I was here, UM, another friend of

472
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: hers came and picked up the dog and took the

473
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: dog to the house and dog sitting and I eventually

474
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: on the third day, I was like because then I heard,

475
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: oh yeah, the dogs are gonna go to somebody else's

476
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: house for a couple of days. And I was like,

477
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: do you. I was like, I feel like you don't

478
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: trust me with your dog, and UM, but you asked me,

479
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: you know, like so before I commit to how I

480
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: feel about that and like making up that whole story

481
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: in my head and what I'm gonna do about it.

482
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: I was really like the information from you, and of

483
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: course it was like, no, it's not about you and

484
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: all the dogs on the other side of town. It's

485
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: the easiest way to get her back here. We didn't

486
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 1: want to put you out by making you drive all

487
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: the way out there to get her. And you know,

488
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: it's like not about you at all. It's fine. So

489
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: that I could just relax and release it, and I

490
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: didn't carry it around all day like I had been

491
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: all morning, like oh my gosh, am I like people

492
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: don't trust me with their pets. I mean, I know

493
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: I can be get irresponsible, but I raised a child.

494
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: I raised a child. Have you seen my beautiful child?

495
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: I can do It's okay, that's hilarious, joy, but you

496
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like just being able to say

497
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: I need info before I can commit to an emotion.

498
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: Here I need info and you and Nathan are communicating

499
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: so well as because here's here's the important thing. Your friendships,

500
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: especially when you're younger, our practice for your long term relationships,

501
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: and if you want to get married, your marriages right,

502
00:29:52,880 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: and so practicing healthy fighting is honey. Come on for

503
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: your engagements whatever you collect I understand the collective marriages

504
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: because um or you know, life is long, you know,

505
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: do whatever you want baby um, but it is you

506
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: have to practice with your friends in order to be

507
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: UM well exercised in that for your like more intense relationships.

508
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: And Haley is doing that. She's practicing it with her

509
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: friends and committing to Nathan. And she's not groveling anymore.

510
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: She's not sad. She's like so acute in that little outfit,

511
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: just that little Cherland outfit. I loved it. That was fun.

512
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: I started to I was happy to be a cheerleader,

513
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: but I was annoyed that I had to be there

514
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: on game days now, because Haley never had to deal

515
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: there on game days except they were like, come between

516
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: like five and eight night and we'll get your shot in,

517
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: you know. Now, it was like I gotta be there

518
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: all day long. But it's just so stupid. Those are

519
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: champagne problems. I mean, they were paying me. I was

520
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: happy to be there. That scene was so sweet, especially

521
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: to counter that awful violent moment between Dan and Nathan. Obviously,

522
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: he's like he's scared, he's heartbroken, and he walks outside

523
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: and there you are. He says, you leave it for me,

524
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: killed me, Like she's a little safe place for him.

525
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: She was right at the right moment she was there.

526
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh that was so good. Yeah. I like seeing them

527
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: come back together. And it was very sweet, the little

528
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: phone call and yeah, it's the immediate phone call. Super

529
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: super cute. Um. Yeah that back to that thing with

530
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: Dan in the locker room. The abuse, that thing up

531
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: intense abuse. And you said it too when we were

532
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: watching it. Can you imagine how embarrassed, not just embarrassing,

533
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: is like too light of a word. How it's humiliating, humiliating, shame,

534
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: the shame that would create to have to have your

535
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: entire team watch you, the star basketball player, get abused

536
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: by your father and Whitey shows up with the bat.

537
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: Whitey came in hot. It was so good, like chariots

538
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: of fire. And you know it was interesting. I had

539
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: a moment when we were watching it go down because

540
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: the team had walked in white He was at the door,

541
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: he was about to talk, and then Dan came in.

542
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: And when Dan had Nathan up against the locker, I'm going,

543
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: where's Whitey? And then you see the door swinging behind

544
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: him and he's got a bat, and I'm like, God,

545
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: he's so cool. He just went right to his office

546
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: to get a baseball bat. I love that man, just

547
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: who lets Dan in all these spaces? This man is everywhere?

548
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: And I wonder sometimes, like with the scripting of our show,

549
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: like at what point they were just like, screw it,

550
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna just let him be everywhere, you know, Like

551
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't need to make sense. He's at the river Court,

552
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: he's in other people's homes. He just knows how to

553
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: find everyone all the time. He's a stalker. He can

554
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: just show it. And you made a point, I think, Joy,

555
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: you said, you know who lets parents just walk into

556
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: the locker room, And now that we're talking about it,

557
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm realizing, Well, we've established Dan is a complete narcissist.

558
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: He's abusive. I mean, the way he's manipulating deb in

559
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: this episode, making her own script, it's so gross. Of

560
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: course he would walk right into the locker room because

561
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: he thinks it belongs to him. Yeah, of course, he

562
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: thinks everything belongs to him. I still embothered by the

563
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: inconsistency of the fact that, let me tell you something,

564
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: when one of my daughter's friends parents followed me so far.

565
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: When her friend's parents behave badly, Um, you know something,

566
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: if they yell at one of the kids, or if

567
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: they if there's anything that I hear about it, they come,

568
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure you do to him. They come home and

569
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: they're like, so and So's mom are so and So's

570
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: dad did blah blah blah, And you know it's word

571
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: travels fast, and in a small town like Tree Hill,

572
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: world travels fast. So Dan walking into a locker room

573
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: this is being one of the you know, this is

574
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: probably like four d and seventy five on the list

575
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: of things that he's publicly done to his family or

576
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: anybody else. How are people? How is he still running

577
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: for mayor and still see me? Like he's talking at

578
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: the PEP rally. He's like a pillar, a beacon in

579
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: the community. I don't understand. You know, these parents know

580
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: what's up. Their kids are coming home like, you know, yeah,

581
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: Dan was rough and up Nathan in the locker room today.

582
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like maybe though, that's why

583
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: there's the moment where Mouth has the video, because Dan

584
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: screwed up and he did it front of everybody. Yeah, yeah,

585
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: that's true. So much of the insidious stuff that he

586
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: does is in quiet. It's in an aside. He gets

587
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: in your face here in Narcissists know how to look

588
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: presentable to people who don't know them, but at home

589
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: they're monsters and he did it in front of everyone,

590
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: and now there's a video. M Okay, great point. It's

591
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: also worth noting to, Like, I think, because we were

592
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: young when we shot this show and they were older

593
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: than we were, we just kind of took it for granted, like, yes,

594
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: of course it makes sense for a thirty six not

595
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: even they're playing thirty four year old because they were

596
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: supposed to be eighteen when Lucas is born and Lucas

597
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: is only they're playing. Is it even legal for Dawn

598
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: to run for may or do we have to be

599
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: thirty five or something like? You know what I mean.

600
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: It's like the idea, So this kind of this idea

601
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: of reputation, you know, as local politicians are just like

602
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: local business people get older, you know, scandals come out

603
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: in your in your forties and your fifties and your seventies,

604
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, like whatever, Dan's really really young. Like maybe

605
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: the the word isn't out there with the voter base

606
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: because they're not people that he went to school with.

607
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: It's people who were like decades older than him, and

608
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: they just remember like the golden kid. On the cover

609
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: of the local newspaper. You know, the kids went to

610
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 1: school with noise and actual But you know, typically voter

611
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: base is a little bit older, and they're like, Oh,

612
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: that's that winner, that's that Scott kid. What a winner.

613
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: Yabout my car from him? I bought my car from

614
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: that boy. What an ambitious young man. Yeah, well, I

615
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what happens with this video. I

616
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 1: love it, and I hope that Karen doesn't high horse

617
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: it and be like, I'm above releasing this. She should.

618
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: I was like, she's going to be classy, and I

619
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: wish she wouldn't. No, I love a smear campaign because

620
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: it's the truth. Tell me the truth. Can release it.

621
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: Karen doesn't have to have anything to do with it.

622
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: She can just be like, whatever you do with that

623
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: is none of my business. But I really hope I

624
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: wake up and see it on the news tomorrow. Well,

625
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: and also, it's a wonderful tool for deb who has

626
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: had Dan dangled this idea of freedom over her head.

627
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: If she's got a video, she can show a judge

628
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: and be like, this man hurts my child. She doesn't

629
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: have to play his game anymore. You know, she's got

630
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 1: physical over proof. This is the bed day all over

631
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: for Dan Scotty. Oh you know what I will say

632
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: on a on a high note, whether she releases the

633
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: video or not. For Karen, Moira played that moment with

634
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: Karen and Lucas so well, which she goes, well, then

635
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: it's her loss. You know, someone once said to me

636
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: the best way to get over the money to get

637
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: under someone else. Oh my god, I just realized what

638
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: that meant, Like it was so so cute, funny, so cute.

639
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: I am philosophical than that. The scenes between Karen and

640
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: Lucas are so I guess I never clocked him before

641
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: because I didn't have a kid, and now I've got

642
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: this twelve year old boy with a mustache, and I'm

643
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: watching these interactions between a mom and a son and

644
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, these are the conversations that

645
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: I have with Gus. Like we just watched Breakfast Club

646
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: and asked that is this that you guys really talk?

647
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: Because I was watching the episode of like, did boys

648
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: really talk to their mothers that way? Yes, my son,

649
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: we just watched the Breakfast Club and he had so

650
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: many questions and he was so angry with Judd Nelson's

651
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: character because he stuck his face in Molly Ringwald's lap

652
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: under the library table, and Gus was disgusted, and so

653
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: at the end of the movie when they end up together,

654
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: Gus is de gusted and he's like asking me all

655
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: of these questions and like Jeff, for sure Gus would

656
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: be into that character because he's like the edgy one

657
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: with airing and like, yeah, yeah, no part. Gus wanted

658
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: no part of that character. And so having those conversations

659
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: about like sexuality and respect and you know, just kind

660
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: of like ethics with your child, Gus wanted he held

661
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: my hand the whole time we watched the movie. He

662
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: just had his little head on my shoulder so I

663
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: could scratch his hair, like I love seeing it in

664
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: an older boy, you know, like sit down with his

665
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: mommy and be like on the boat of the joke

666
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: of shoulders, mom, and just like cock do it. You know.

667
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: It's not trying to be cool. He's like, mom, all

668
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: the girls are being really mean to me, and nobody

669
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: likes me, and I just wanted to go to homecoming

670
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: with somebody and I'm just going to go pay my

671
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: door black. That was hilarious, So yes, baby, I can

672
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: tell by the black do or other side of the

673
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: house you got jobbed. I love too? Is that in

674
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: a weird way, He also gets mothered by Rachel. Yes,

675
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: she's move on, get over yourself and get out of

676
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: my car. I'm better than this. I was like, yes, girl,

677
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: you go. I loved it the way daniel delivered that line,

678
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: the I'm better than that. You know, she's like you,

679
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: you've been using me to make Brook jealous. That's fine,

680
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: but I'm better than that. And I know that she

681
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: didn't say it in a mean way. She didn't say

682
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: it in a cocky way like Danielle played that so

683
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: totally correct because it was just it was just a

684
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: young woman correcting a young man in a way that

685
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: wasn't malicious that he could hear, and being like, so

686
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: we're done with this. Okay, good, you don't do this

687
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: to me or anybody. Yeah, it would have been if

688
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: we made an arrangement, but you don't get to just

689
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: do this and pretend like we don't know both know

690
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: what's going on. And I liked that she didn't do

691
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: it in a way of like I'm better than this,

692
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: Like she wasn't hurting my feelings. She was just like,

693
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: this is gross. Stop it. I'm not going to tolerate it.

694
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: It was so at I guess that's why it feels

695
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: to me a little bit like Karen and Rachel are

696
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: kind of mirrors for him. They're both looking at him

697
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: in this episode like grow up, stop pouting. Well, and

698
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: it's kind of nice. She's also the one that calls

699
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: out Chris Keller for being a creep coming into the

700
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: high school hitting on teenage. Yes, it's so gross. We've

701
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: talked about it so much. Why boy hanging around? And

702
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: even when he walks in, he goes three cheerleaders. It's

703
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: so right. Then, it's so gross. And she just was like,

704
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: you're disgusting, You're a pervert. And I loved I loved that.

705
00:41:54,080 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: Somebody said it also, you just said the thing. It's like, Dann,

706
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: is this the episode where the Chris Keller Dan Scott

707
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: theory started? Maybe I know your mother? Oh yeah, that's right. Well,

708
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: apparently this is a fan there's a big fan theory

709
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: that Dan was just dropping a little Easter egg, but

710
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: that Chris Keller is actually Dan's son and Chris is

711
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: the third Scott brother. That's true. I don't think I've

712
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: seen so many fans say that though. They're just like,

713
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: Chris Keller is totally one of Dan's God's kids. He's

714
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: a young Dan. He definitely functions like a young Dan,

715
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 1: just showing up random places, walking in wherever he thinks

716
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: he belongs, picking up you know, any woman that he

717
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: sees that He's just like, oh you, I'll pick I'll

718
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: pick on you. It's gross. It's super gross. Um, and

719
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: it's Tyler is the only person that I think could

720
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: have made him work in a way that feels lovable,

721
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: because otherwise it just comes off so sleazy. But because

722
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: he is so it's still yeah, he can't help it.

723
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: Even playing a sleazy character, the pure goodness that is

724
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: Tyler seeps through. So you gotta love to hate this guy.

725
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: It's so true. We were we were debating while we

726
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: were watching. We're like, Okay, fans, this is going to

727
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: be our poll for you guys, who does Tyler look

728
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: more like Elvis or Chris Isaac? And I just always

729
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: such a ringer for Chris Isaac. But you're what does

730
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: the Elvis thing is very really I see a lot

731
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: of Elvis to you know what I want somebody to

732
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: do you know how they do those things with couples

733
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: where they put your faces together and tell you what

734
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: your children would look like. I would love for somebody

735
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: to put Elvis and Chris Isaac's together and see if

736
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: it's Tyler home. Okay, somebody's got a project, has that

737
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: app I don't want to download it, I'm lazy, but

738
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: he has it and they could just tweet it to

739
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: us and it would be great. Thank you in advance.

740
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: We appreciate it advance for your help. We're at at

741
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: the point where we should probably take a fan question

742
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: or two if we have any. One of the highlights

743
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: of these bigger episodes is that we have like everybody

744
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: in them, right. You know. We've got Tim being Tim

745
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: with the tramp stamp, which is delicious. We have g

746
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: G being like totally infatuated with all the basketball players,

747
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: which is super a little swoo, she's so cute, and

748
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: we get to see all the boys. And it's nice

749
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: to hear their real names announced at the beginning of

750
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: the game, because our basketball players were a huge part

751
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: of our show and they didn't necessarily have lines, but

752
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: they were important, um and so to hear their real

753
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: names called out over the loud speaker. And then we've

754
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: got our Bevan, who is so funny in this episode

755
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: with her giving Whitey like this is the place, yeah yeah,

756
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: and then like being the one with Chris Keller that's

757
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: like okay bye, you know, and then she looks at

758
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: Rachel and goes sorry, she's so good and you I mean,

759
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: I think most of our fan base knows that Bevan

760
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: recently lost her husband and she was on our show

761
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: like two months ago talking about how wonderful he is

762
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: and their life that they've built here together in Wilmington's. Um.

763
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: You know, I don't people can't see us because it's

764
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: the podcast, but I'm in a hotel room in Wilmington's

765
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: right now, and what I can say is that we've

766
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: had more time together as a unit in the past

767
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: like six months, Like all of us we've seen each

768
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: other at weddings, at these celebrations of life, you know,

769
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: like we're all able to interact. Convention coming up to

770
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: we're going to be back in Wilmington's. It's um. I

771
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: don't know, the universe putting us together, the gift that

772
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: we have that we got to grow up together, and

773
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: we've got kind of this record of it where we

774
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: get to you know, cheer Bevan on, you know, in

775
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: a moment like this and be like that's our girl. Um,

776
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: it's cool. And and being back here with everyone like

777
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: you guys, I told you we saw our director of photography,

778
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: Peter Kowalski, like Leonora's drove down, Daniel's here. You know

779
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: the magic. I think there are a lot of the

780
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: fan base is like, um, it feels like suspension of belief.

781
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: It's like this was a magical group of people. This

782
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: was like a magical experience, a magical show. It feels

783
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: so weird to be back for the first time post

784
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: pandemic and it's like it's real. You know. It's like

785
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: everyone's out walking the loop. Everyone's like going to the

786
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: Brasserie for dinner. You know, like the magic is just

787
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: real and the community is real. And um, for our

788
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: drama Queens fans that have uh gone to Recess Bevan's

789
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: business that she built here with her husband, that has

790
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: been such a gift and it really means a lot

791
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 1: to her, it means a lot to the other girls

792
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: that work there. And so if you're coming to Willington,

793
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: well if they're coming to Willington's for the summer, or

794
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: for an anniversary, or for any trip at all, Like

795
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: like Recess is part of the drama Queen's Scavenger Hunt.

796
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: So just make a plan of taking a class with

797
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: any of the teachers there and then yeah, be a

798
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: part of this community because we all know what just

799
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: just like it's so special for us when we meet

800
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: y'all and you're wearing like a close over Brose hat

801
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: or a T shirt with Peyton's art on it. Even

802
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: if spinning is not your thing, Listen, not all of

803
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: us love Cardio. Um you can. You can pop by

804
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: Recess and say hi and get a hat, get a

805
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: T shirt. You can support the business and you can

806
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: do that for our girl because it's I mean, you

807
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: said best, Hillary. It's like such a it's been such

808
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: a season of reunion for us, and it's so odd

809
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: to be sort of celebrating the highest of highs and

810
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: also lifting up our community in moments that are the

811
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: lowest of low And I think what is so beautiful

812
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: to watch is that no matter what it is, we're

813
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: all here, Like whether it was Puppy piling in the

814
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: corner with all of you at my wedding or everybody

815
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: who could flying into Wilmington to hold Bevan. It's like,

816
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: after twenty years, no matter what, everybody's there and it's

817
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's the family. It is the most meaningful stuff.

818
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't have predicted it in a million years,

819
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: you guys, like when we were year olds, Like I

820
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: couldn't never ever have predicted we'd all still be in

821
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: love with each other. And way that's just kind of

822
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: it's wholesome, foundational. Yeah. Yeah, So at some point the

823
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: three of us are gonna have to do a spin

824
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: class together. I can't wait for you. I'm the least

825
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: coordinated woman on the planet. You've seen the cheerleading dances.

826
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what you guys want, but we're here

827
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: for each other and that's awesome and um, and we

828
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: appreciate the fan base also being here for us. And

829
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: so we'll answer your questions. Now give us the questions,

830
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: your questions, let us give you the love. Hailey wants

831
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: to know, how did you come up with the name

832
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: Drama Queens for the podcast and how did you all

833
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: come together and decide to do it? Um, Hillary, were

834
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: you the ones that said drama quits one of us.

835
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: Just it was like in the pile of names, we

836
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: were throwing names out. I don't. I don't remember who

837
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: said it. I mean some of the other names we

838
00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: were thinking. Remember we started with most likely too. That's right,

839
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: it was most likely too, it's the most likely to

840
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: in the yearbook. And then that actually turned into our

841
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: wheel are most likely to use, like our spin the wheel.

842
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't it was one of YouTube drama queens. Is

843
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: definitely not me. I don't remember it was me. It

844
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: was because I was getting made fun of. It's like

845
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: somebody had made funny like drama queens, and I was like,

846
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: you know what, We're going to turn a negative into

847
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Speaker 1: a positive queen teen drama And it just felt so egotistical.

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Speaker 1: How many teen dramas are out there, and for us

849
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Speaker 1: to be like, no, no, no, no no. That was

850
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Speaker 1: so bitchy in the funny way, now in the best way,

851
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: and it's tongue in cheek, and you know what, everybody

852
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: made us feel real bad back then we're taking back

853
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: our calm and it's goddamn it all I'm saying. Those

854
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of the Teen Choice Awards, we were

855
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Speaker 1: not beloved and we got picked on and so that

856
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: is I've got a chick shoulder about it. While we

857
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: were still on zoom, like that's it, that's the name.

858
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Speaker 1: Oh my goad. I like split screen to my computer

859
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: and I got online and started ordering crowns. I was like, no,

860
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: we're doing it on my crown who deserved this? You

861
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: did have tiaras so fast. I ordered so many options,

862
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: but we went through so many names. We were just

863
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: spitballing for like a week or two, and then finally

864
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: you just said that and we all were like, oh,

865
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Speaker 1: that's it. Bango bango that somebody locked down the LLC

866
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Speaker 1: right now. That's but Sophia brought us the idea of

867
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Speaker 1: podcast because you've been doing work in progress and you

868
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: were like, yes, we can actually like work from home

869
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: and provide yeah, and like make things cool. You know,

870
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: there was a lot of unspoken stuff that fans always

871
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: kind of tiptoed around it conventions in the Q and

872
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: A S and we're like, you know what, let's put

873
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Speaker 1: out the laundry. Let's just let's just do it, do it.

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Speaker 1: And there's something I think what I learned, you know,

875
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: doing work in progress is we're so used to doing

876
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Speaker 1: an interview, and they use like a sentence on a

877
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: sound bite. Half the time they take out of context

878
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: for a clickbait title like it's all just yucky. And

879
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: and the length of a podcast allows you to be

880
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: curious two debate thoughtfully to ask questions, well, what do

881
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: you think? What do you think that's interesting? Maybe maybe

882
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: this is a reality or an option I've never thought of,

883
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: Like it's it's a real life. It's like a dinner party.

884
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: And and for us to be able to do that

885
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: together and and not have somebody be like the girls,

886
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: it's like, that's actually not what we said. We'll tell

887
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 1: you what we have to say. It's so empowering when

888
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: it also was so universally like destined um, because everything

889
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: went right on like the first try, you know what

890
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Like Shore I sat down to write that

891
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: theme song and send it to us in like a voice.

892
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: It looks like a little tiny thing, and it was

893
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: just like, what do you guys think? This is this okay?

894
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: And we're like, is this okay? What are you talking about? Match?

895
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 1: Since it's like when God is opening up all the doors,

896
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: there is just something magical that happens and you just

897
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: take your hands off of it and watch it go.

898
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: And that's what we did. I mean, we showed up

899
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: to do the work, but we didn't have to push

900
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: and bang down doors and not that there isn't a

901
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: season for that, but it's so nice when you just

902
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: see all the doors just opening and you know you're

903
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: on the right track and everything's working. It's a relief.

904
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: Being in flow is such an unmistakable feeling, and you

905
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: feel like it's coming through you, and it's such a

906
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 1: lesson that not everything has to be that brutal climb

907
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: up the hill with the rock. Yeah, you can just

908
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: like like, you don't have to be a mountain. You

909
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: can be water. So nice. I want to be water rich.

910
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: Here this feel we're water. I love it. I'm just

911
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: the river. You just send things right on down to

912
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: send things right to me. I will take you on

913
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 1: a boat together the river country. We're going to get

914
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: another on. Can love this if you don't take us

915
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: as your date to like the Grammys when you win

916
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: awards for your country, was like to be real, man,

917
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: I agree on dates, dates for life. Teasing my hair,

918
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Speaker 1: You'll be like, excuse me, I need three seeds. Three

919
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: I'll just sit in one of your laps. I was

920
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: going to say, yeah, okay, So Jackie wants to know,

921
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Speaker 1: what is the biggest mistake you think your care after

922
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: made I feel like you're being targeted right now with

923
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: this Chris Keller thing, Sophia I was about in this episode. Personally, Jackie,

924
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: the biggest mistake, It's hard to know because we've only

925
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: seen up to season in season three, So let's just

926
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Speaker 1: say so between like, you know one and three, what's

927
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: our biggest mistake? Webcam's biggest mistake when when Nathan came

928
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: to say hi to her backstage. Her biggest mistake was

929
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: not saying I love you. I'm so happy to see you.

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00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. I'm so confused and freaked out and

931
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, but I love you

932
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: to death and I will die if you leave. Just

933
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: stay stay here. I will be right back and help

934
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: me figure this out. I need your help. That was

935
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: her big If she had said that, I think everything

936
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: would have changed. Say the thing you said that earlier,

937
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: Just the thing man that this episode. Yeah, yeah, mine's

938
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: cam kids. Don't do that, Like, don't just gross beguard

939
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: yourself on the internet. Man, you gotta get one of

940
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: those post it notes and stick it on those little stickers,

941
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: and I know I've got a band aid on my

942
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: laptop and on. All right, yeah, we all watched that

943
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: Edwards Snowden movie. We're all freeking. It's also gross. Um

944
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: oh man, I think, I mean Brooks made a lot

945
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: of mistakes, but just trying to remember his name, Yeah,

946
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: let's un I'd say currently up to season three, episode eight,

947
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: Felix is probably number one and Chris Keller's probably number two,

948
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: only because I like Tyler so much. Yeah yeah, yeah,

949
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: and you only like and brook only slept with him once,

950
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: and Felix is like an ongoing thing. She made that

951
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: choice multiple times. And that's like cutting like it really is.

952
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: That is that's that's the behavior of self harm. We

953
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: don't do anyone, that's right, all right, we're spending a wheel.

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Speaker 1: What do we got this week? Most likely to win

955
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: big in Vegas? Who's because it's because it's also based

956
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: on luck. I probably he would lose it at t Yeah,

957
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: Chris Keller for sure. That kid steps in it. You know,

958
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: just you know, he's working on a record store and

959
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: Tree Hill and all of a sudden he's on like

960
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: a big national tour and you know, oh, um, but

961
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: who in real life? I feel like Antoine is always

962
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: in Vegas, like playing dominoes. I feel in Vegas. So

963
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: that Staff, well, friends, we love you. We're so grateful

964
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: that you show up for us every week. Please as

965
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: a reminder, show up for Bevan right now. Go. Um,

966
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: if you're in Wilmington's go visit Recess. If you are online,

967
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: grab go pick up a hat or a T shirt

968
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: or something and um, you know, send her some love.

969
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: And there is also a go fund me that the

970
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: family put together. Her husband was such an incredibly accomplished

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00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: man and had a business brain and a creative brain

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00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: like nobody else, and he did so much amazing work

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00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: in his own right. He helped her put Recess together

974
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: and it was something that they did as this family dream.

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Speaker 1: And so the really cool thing about the go fund

976
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Speaker 1: me that so many of us have shared and we'll

977
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: share it again, is that it raises money for a

978
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: cause that Will was deeply passionate about. And um, we'll

979
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: go to continuing to help Recess as a business. Um

980
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: as everyone figures out, you know what it means to

981
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: to hold that up in in his absence. And it's

982
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: in these moments that you know, people really need us

983
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: to kind of be the bridges from from one reality

984
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: to another. And so there's so many ways to to help,

985
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 1: and if you know, taking a class or donating money

986
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: isn't something you're able to do, even just sending a

987
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: message of support really means a lot. Yeah, we thank

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00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: you guys for being a part of our family. Can't

989
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: wait to see you next week. You love you all. Hey,

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00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review.

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Speaker 1: are all about that high school drama. Girl Drama Girl,

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