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Speaker 1: Travis en Buck Sexton Show. We have so much plan

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Speaker 1: to dive into very exciting show lined up here. We've

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Speaker 1: got the aftermath of Friday's Oval Office showdown with Trump,

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Speaker 1: Vance and Zelenski. The media that is anti Trump at

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Speaker 1: least in full freak out mode over the weekend. I

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Speaker 1: was in the gym this morning, Clay, and on the

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Speaker 1: anti Trump channels, just one former lightweight national security official

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Speaker 1: after another saying that what Trump did is ruined America

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Speaker 1: for the future. We'll see about that. We'll discuss what

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Speaker 1: that means for Trump's peace efforts to end the Ukraine War.

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Speaker 1: We've also got and we've asked him if you could

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Speaker 1: join us to tell us more details. But the Governor

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Speaker 1: of Virginia, Glenn young Kid, signed an executive order mandating

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Speaker 1: that state and local law enforcement will cooperate with Ice.

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Speaker 1: That's right, State and local in Virginia are going to

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Speaker 1: be helping with the enforcement of the law and deportations.

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Speaker 1: Our friend, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, It's amazing to say

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Speaker 1: that out loud. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is directing the

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Speaker 1: civilian workforce of DoD to respond to the elon doge.

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Speaker 1: What would you say you did here last week, email

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Speaker 1: or over the last week. And then we've got a

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Speaker 1: just astonishing but not surprising response from the mayor of

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Speaker 1: and law enforcement had to use lethal force to stop him.

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Speaker 1: We will bring you all of that and more. But Clay,

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Speaker 1: and as I sit here in South Florida with so

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Speaker 1: many Floridians basking in the incredible Florida late February early

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Speaker 1: March weather that we've had, I can't help but see

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Speaker 1: that there is someone rising in the Democrat ranks right now,

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Speaker 1: I think you laid out and I would agree this

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Speaker 1: is someone who thinks he will be the mayor of

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Speaker 1: New York and then we'll run for president. That is

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Speaker 1: the plan for Andrew Cuomo. But let's start with cut

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Speaker 1: two here. This is what he says, because I was

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Speaker 1: in New York, as many of you recall you were

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Speaker 1: listening to the show back then. I was in New

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Speaker 1: York during COVID. I have some thoughts on this, but

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Speaker 1: the would be governor and leader of the Democrat Party

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Speaker 1: if he gets his way. Andrew Cuomo had this to say, on.

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Speaker 2: Top of it all, we faced COVID, which was an

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Speaker 2: historic life and death challenge, and we had it first

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Speaker 1: Clay, he was absolutely horrible. I know you were following

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Speaker 1: it as a Tennesseean and recognize how terrible he was,

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Speaker 1: But I can tell you as a New Yorker, this

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Speaker 1: is the guy who thought that shutting bars down early

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Speaker 1: their cocktail was going to help stop the spread of COVID.

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Speaker 1: He was a monstrous and idiotic dictator. And I want

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Speaker 1: to make it my life's mission to the degree that

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Speaker 1: And I don't think he should be the mayor of

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Speaker 1: tall for me. So he's going to be the Mayor

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Speaker 1: the primary. I was looking this up the primaries in

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Speaker 1: June buck so all of this has been super brilliant

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Speaker 1: the vote's going to happen. He's going to be the

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Speaker 1: which Eric Adams has talked about, unless you think that's

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Speaker 1: going to be a viable alternative, Andrew Cuomo is going

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Speaker 1: going to spend about six months or nine months trying

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Speaker 1: and let me hit you with something, buck that is crazy.

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Speaker 1: And I know this frustrates you. I think that he

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Speaker 1: I had my challenges I'm speaking as Cuomo, but the

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Speaker 1: not a sexual harasser, just Italian. That they gave him

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Speaker 1: be mayor of New York City. Let me make this clear.

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Speaker 1: New York City is a stepping stone to where he

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Speaker 1: wants to be. You don't go from governor of New

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Speaker 1: New York City's mayorship is a stepping stone to allow

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Speaker 1: him to be back at the upper rational line of

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Speaker 1: going to put him there, So prepare yourselves. Cuomo has

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Speaker 1: paid no price for being one of the worst governors

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Speaker 1: during COVID. All of these people just pretend and there

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Speaker 1: were virtually no discussion about Tim Walls's failures during COVID.

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Speaker 1: I know all of you who live in Minnesota, Michigan, California,

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Speaker 1: and New York and are listening to me right now

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Speaker 1: feel this. No one lost their job overscrewing up COVID.

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Speaker 1: There were no consequences, and he is going to just

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Speaker 1: put that in the background, the fact that he sent

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Speaker 1: because of all the kids having to wear masks, because

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Speaker 1: you had to get a COVID shot if you lived

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Speaker 1: in New York to go to freaking McDonald's. None of

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Speaker 1: that's going to matter. Buck, He's going to claim vindication

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Speaker 1: and he's going to be running for president of the

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Speaker 1: United States within a year. Generally, historically speaking, it has

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Speaker 1: been a lot easier to use the governorship of New

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Speaker 1: York to run for president, which makes sense, right, Running

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Speaker 1: governors have become president Clay. Can you give me one

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Speaker 1: And that was that was the one that There's a

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Speaker 1: the three porter to retire on for sure. But so

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Speaker 1: there have been a number of presidents who have been

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Speaker 1: trickier when you look at somebody who had just the mayor,

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Speaker 1: just the mayorship. Michael Bloomberg didn't happen. Rudy Giuliani didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: John Lindsay back in nineteen seventy two. Let me see

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Speaker 1: who else Adelais Stevenson had Robert Wagner, who had been

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Speaker 1: a number who have done it. Here's what's different, I think,

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Speaker 1: Clay about this right now, I've never seen a Democrat

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Speaker 1: field so wide open, and it is it's anybody's ballgame

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Speaker 1: right now to seize the leadership of the Democrat Party

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Speaker 1: And Cuomo, this is cut three. He knows that one

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Speaker 1: thing that New Yorkers are any sane New Yorker. Now, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: I always say about twenty percent of the country is unreachable, right,

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Speaker 1: have a conversation with them. In New York. It may

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Speaker 1: I mean, but there are still some New Yorkers who

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Speaker 1: New Yorkers are just fed up on because it got

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Speaker 2: Cut three, we must attack the crime problem. After politicians

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Speaker 2: have been minimizing the need for police and cutting funding.

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Speaker 2: We must acknowledge this simple truth that they are just

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Speaker 2: playing wrong, deadly wrong. They set us back, and we

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Speaker 1: But you know, the Democrats as a party have not

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Speaker 1: actually embraced that. But he realizes that's his pathway on

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Speaker 1: a policy level in New York. Just take take the

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's really he's learning the most obvious lessons

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Speaker 1: All of his announcement video was not about New York City.

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Speaker 1: It was about being president of the United States. I

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Speaker 1: mayoral office is a total stepping stone. And even Buck

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Speaker 1: his argument there to be fair. If he comes in

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you he is. It is all so

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Speaker 1: readily apparent to me what the game plan is here,

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Speaker 1: right down to not announcing till March. Buck, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's really smart. He's not gonna give himself very much

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Speaker 1: going to take a punch. I really don't think Buck,

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Speaker 1: For Republicans, until Trump, it was Reagan. Every Republican who

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Speaker 1: But I think that Cuomo historically is going to reach

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Speaker 1: back to the greatness of the one and only FDR.

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Speaker 1: I think that's now greatness. I put in quotes there,

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Speaker 1: did they buy a couple one hundred thousand dollars maybe

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Speaker 1: of Facebook ads, But the idea that somehow he rigged

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Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen election, which is what was alleged by

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Speaker 1: themselves all Pulitzers for it, the made up Steele dossier,

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's campaign, all of it was a lie. And

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Speaker 1: so if you're Trump and you're looking at this conflict

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Speaker 1: now between Ukraine and Russia, I think Trump will. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he thinks Vladimir Putin's a great guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that I want to go to dinner and

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Speaker 1: like hang out with Putin, But I think Putin was

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Speaker 1: more honest about what he did during the twenty sixteen

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Speaker 1: election than the American media was about the way that

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Speaker 1: they covered Putin in the twenty sixteen election. I just

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Speaker 1: want to address this. One of our VIPs, Troy in Michigan,

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Speaker 1: says he disagrees with me about Zelensky's attire because Arab

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Speaker 1: leaders don't wear suits at the White House. If you're

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Speaker 1: different from showing up in a tracksuit. Zolensky doesn't know

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Speaker 1: a wartime or a wartime leader, wartime president, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really even matter what the protocol is. He

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Speaker 1: should know enough about Trump to know that Trump didn't

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Speaker 1: want him showing up the way that he did. So

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Speaker 1: that's misstep number one. Whether someone agrees with it or

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Speaker 1: not doesn't really matter, because Zelensky should be able to

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Speaker 1: anticipate that. Yeah, and if you do do that, because

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Speaker 1: there are photos out there of Winston Churchill basically showing

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Speaker 1: up in non suit attire to meet with FDR, I

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Speaker 1: think if you are, your idea is we're at war,

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Speaker 1: so I'm going to wear a war type uniform, which

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Speaker 1: I think is what Zolensky would argue. Then, to your point, earlier.

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Speaker 1: Church Hill worked as hard as he could to express

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Speaker 1: his respect, admiration, and deep gratitude for the support of

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Speaker 1: the American people, and fought as hard as he could

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Speaker 1: to get them to get in on his side with

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Speaker 1: the war. Remember, we probably don't get into World War

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Speaker 1: two if the Japanese don't make the decision to attack

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Speaker 1: us in Pearl Harbor. I mean, I don't know exactly

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Speaker 1: how the history of the world plays out if that

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Speaker 1: attack doesn't happen. But if you know, and there is

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Speaker 1: word that Trump said, Hey, it would be appreciated if

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Speaker 1: Zolensky would dressed in a suit as a Western leader

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Speaker 1: typically would. If you know that you're doing something to

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Speaker 1: provoke the eyre based on the wardrobe that you start.

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Speaker 1: If you are smart guy, you probably don't feud with him.

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Speaker 1: Other thing that you pointed out, Buck and I went

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Speaker 1: conference too. That was the final question. They actually said,

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Speaker 1: public media availability. Just don't blow it up at the

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Speaker 1: very end, and you would have gotten your signed mineral

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Speaker 1: rights agreement. I think Buck, I really do. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he wants a cease fire. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: wants peace. I just don't. Then this forces us to

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Speaker 1: look at well, then what if that were true? What

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Speaker 1: does he want right now? He says he wants to

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Speaker 1: cease fire with all kinds of guarant with all kinds

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Speaker 1: of guarantees. I would note that he says, well, we

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Speaker 1: can't trust the ceasefire with Putin. He needs an additional

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Speaker 1: guarantee beyond that. But the truth is that you know

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Speaker 1: anal guarantees in this world period. Okay, you make the

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Speaker 1: best deal you can with the realities you have them.

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Speaker 1: You hope that there are some enforcement mechanisms, there are

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Speaker 1: some carrots and sticks, and you go forward with that.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to be perfect. But here's the fundamentally

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Speaker 1: the problem. This is a war that he can't win.

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Speaker 1: There's no future in which he can win this war

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Speaker 1: and expel Russia, the Russian Federation, the Russian forces from

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Speaker 1: the territory of Ukraine. So it has to be a

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Speaker 1: negotiated settlement. Everybody agrees about that. The only disagreement so far,

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Speaker 1: at least, that's what we're led to believe, is what

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Speaker 1: are the terms of the negotiated settlement. You don't play

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Speaker 1: games with the only arbiter that you really have in

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Speaker 1: this process who has the kind of leverage to get

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Speaker 1: something done, which is Donald Trump. You don't play games

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Speaker 1: with them in front of the press on his home

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Speaker 1: turf and is in the White House in your own language. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, he speaks English well enough to

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Speaker 1: know what was going on there. But I still think

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Speaker 1: I think that it was it was a mess from

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Speaker 1: the perspective of what the Ukrainian people are trying to

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Speaker 1: achieve and what would be best for them. And I

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Speaker 1: think it the people that are so opposed to this,

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Speaker 1: what is their plan exactly? They have? All Biden did

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Speaker 1: was sit and send taxpayer dollars to Ukraine with no

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Speaker 1: accountability whatsoever, for them to be fighting a war that's

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Speaker 1: never going that doesn't seem like it's going to end

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Speaker 1: until they've killed off every single military age and able

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Speaker 1: bodied man in Ukraine. I mean, that's where this is heading.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, at least in the first couple of years,

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Speaker 1: might go. Even if the overall favoritism of the odds

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Speaker 1: favored Russia all along. Now there is no argument. I haven't

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Speaker 1: heard a single person say, hey, Ukraine is going to

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Speaker 1: kick Russia out of the territory they invaded and restore

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Speaker 1: their pre twenty twenty two border. So if you know

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Speaker 1: that that's impossible, and I think everybody does, why are you

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Speaker 1: still allowing tens of thousands of people to die? It

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Speaker 1: feels like everyone, including seventy eight percent of Americans according

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Speaker 1: to the most recent C and End poll, support a

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Speaker 1: ceasefire and into the war. Look talking about a ceasefire

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Speaker 1: and into a war. Situation in the Middle East is

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Speaker 1: still tumultuous. A man was killed four others wounded in

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Speaker 1: estabbing attack at a transit of in northern Israel. Today,

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Speaker 1: Hamas praise the attack, stop short of claiming responsibility. Israeli's

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Speaker 1: want a normal life again, but with the ceasefire on

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton podcast. You can get clips, you can

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Speaker 1: be able. I noticed this the other day, Buck, I

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't my wife, who says that she listens

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Speaker 1: Our friend Alexi Lawless, Fox Sports soccer analyst listens every day.

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Speaker 1: What's Up Alexi? And he listens at double speed while

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Speaker 1: he's working out out in California. My wife listens at

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Speaker 1: double speed. Someone was listening at double speed as I

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Speaker 1: was walking past to go pick up my kid. A

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Speaker 1: this morning, and I thought he was going to tell me, hey, buddy,

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Speaker 1: and instead he said I love your show. You and

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Speaker 1: Clay do a great job. And I was like, of course,

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Speaker 1: because you're a jacked, handsome patriot down here in South Florida.

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Speaker 1: So he was a podcast listener as well. I've got

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Speaker 1: a funny story that I meant to share a while back,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to the latest drama from the state

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Speaker 1: of Florida, Casey DeSantis Byron Donald's info there that is

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Speaker 1: super interesting. But this happened Buck and I meant to

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Speaker 1: share it. So I was at the Super Bowl down

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans and I did our friend Shannon Breams

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Speaker 1: They had the desk where they put all the football analysts.

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Speaker 1: this security. It's not uncommon. We over index massively on

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys, somebody will come over and they don't

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Speaker 1: want to make a big show, but they'll be like, man,

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Speaker 1: really appreciate what you and Buck are doing. Keep up

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Speaker 1: the fight. Things like that. We over index with security personnel.

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Speaker 1: I thought, that's what he wanted me for So I

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he's going to tell me something about

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Speaker 1: Not sure that he had any idea who I was.

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Speaker 1: I leaned over, expecting to hear, hey, thanks for being

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Speaker 1: zipped my fly up. Thank you to that security guard

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Speaker 1: love the show. Other times, I just can't manage to

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Speaker 1: can get it all right now, Casey DeSantis Buck, we

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Speaker 1: wants an office to run from. Ron DeSantis is term

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Speaker 1: for governor. That is Ron DeSantis's wife, and there is

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Speaker 1: a big NBC news story that came out last night

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Speaker 1: saying that basically she is preparing for the run. We

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Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit Byron Donald's congressman from

647
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Speaker 1: South Florida, has already announced this is setting up. I

648
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Speaker 1: want to look not only in the governor's race. But

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Speaker 1: also I want to consider this larger picture as a

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Speaker 1: continuing Trump versus DeSantis battle. I want to get your

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Speaker 1: take on it. But first let's play this audio. We

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Speaker 1: played it on Friday, but you had ducked out and

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Speaker 1: it was at the end of the near the end

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Speaker 1: of the show Casey DeSantis was asked about it, and

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Speaker 1: this is how she responded, Well, I.

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Speaker 6: Would say one thing, to quote the late great Yogi Vera,

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Speaker 6: when you come to a fork in.

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Speaker 1: The road, ticket.

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Speaker 7: You guys can read it out with you.

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Speaker 1: One look.

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Speaker 7: I mean I think that I've been I've got people

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Speaker 7: coming up to me for years begging to get her

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Speaker 7: in the fray because I think you see with her presentation.

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Speaker 7: I mean, she's passionate, she's articulate, she's smart, she's got

665
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Speaker 7: solid values. I remember Rush Limbaugh, late great, great friend

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Speaker 7: of mine, and he was always upset because he thought

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Speaker 7: that the spouses pulled the office holder to the left.

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Speaker 7: And he said, with Casey, I don't have to worry

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Speaker 7: about that. She's she's more conservative than you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Buck, you are a Floridian, it may be

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Speaker 1: the case that next year you have to decide in

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Speaker 1: a Republican primary. Who would you vote for? What is

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Speaker 1: going on here? We know Byron Donalds has announced he

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Speaker 1: wants to be governor. He is running. I saw he's

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Speaker 1: already sharing clips from his social media account about his

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Speaker 1: governor's race. We talked to him last week. Casey, certainly

677
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Speaker 1: we'd love to have her on the show if she announces.

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Speaker 1: But and I think she would do a great job.

679
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Speaker 1: By the way, I think she's super smart. And I

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Speaker 1: think Ron DeSantis has been such a great governor that

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Speaker 1: on some level, knowing who he wants to be the

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Speaker 1: next governor would make sense. But let me just I

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Speaker 1: want to toss this to you and get your read.

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton ran for office, but she ran for office

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Speaker 1: after Bill Clinton's political career was over, and then she

686
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Speaker 1: built her own political career. Ron DeSantis's political career, in

687
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Speaker 1: my opinion, is not over. I know he's turn limited

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Speaker 1: out in twenty twenty six. He has to figure out

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Speaker 1: what to do. I think he probably would run for president.

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Speaker 1: What is the play here so far as you see

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Speaker 1: it in the event, and again it appears that it's

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Speaker 1: going to happen. Casey DeSantis also throws her hat in

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Speaker 1: the ring and we get what I think it's fair

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Speaker 1: to say would be another Trump versus DeSantis esque battle,

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Speaker 1: because Trump has already endorsed Byron Donald's and Trump would

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Speaker 1: certainly know if Casey was preparing to run, this would

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Speaker 1: as well plugged in as he is in Florida. This

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be a surprise to him. This is the system

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Speaker 1: we have. I don't view this as a problem either way.

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Speaker 1: I think that if you want to have a robust

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Speaker 1: Republican primary in this state which different very strong candidates,

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Speaker 1: then that's fine and that the people of Florida will

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Speaker 1: will get to decide. I also think that there's nothing

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Speaker 1: wrong with saying, let's see what the various candidates have

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Speaker 1: to say about what they do as governor. You know,

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Speaker 1: I share your sentiments about Governor DeSantis being a fantastic

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Speaker 1: I mean, a true A plus governor, and I'm very

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Speaker 1: thankful to him as a Floridian for what he has done.

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Speaker 1: I also think Byron Donald's is an excellent congressman and

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for him, and we've

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Speaker 1: we've spent time talking to him and know where he

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Speaker 1: is on a lot of national level issues. And Casey

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Speaker 1: DeSantis is very impressive and charming, and there's you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot to recommend, recommend her for. I like that office.

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Speaker 1: So I don't feel like there's a definitive anything right now.

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Speaker 1: She hasn't even decided to get into the race. Byron,

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Speaker 1: Donald's already has Trump's endorsement. That's obviously going to carry

718
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Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of weight. Remember, Trump is a Floridian,

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Speaker 1: which I feel like doesn't always we think give him

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Speaker 1: as a New Yorker, but he actually now is officially

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Speaker 1: and has been, perhaps in part because of DeSantis during

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Speaker 1: COVID is an official Floridian. So there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot that plays out here. We'll see whether DeSantis. I

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Speaker 1: can't just say DeSantis because Casey and Ron Ron supporting

725
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Speaker 1: his wife would be no surprise to anybody who spent

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Speaker 1: five minutes with the guy. So if she decides that

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Speaker 1: she wants to get in, He's going to push, push,

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Speaker 1: aggressively for her to take over the governor's chair, and

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Speaker 1: we'll see, you know, the chips fall where they may.

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Speaker 1: I don't really I don't really have much for it

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Speaker 1: beyond that we haven't even we don't even know who's

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Speaker 1: in the race yet. So how could we judge who

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Speaker 1: should win the race. It's interesting to me because we

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Speaker 1: know DeSantis ran for president, and frankly, if Trump hadn't run,

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Speaker 1: I think DeSantis would have won the nomination. In other words,

736
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Speaker 1: if Trump had just decided, hey, I'm out. But now

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Speaker 1: the calculus is different with jd Vance, because if Trump

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Speaker 1: had picked Doug Bergham, I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: would have seen that as a Mike Pence like choice.

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Speaker 1: In other words, let me put it this way, do

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Speaker 1: you think if Trump had won in twenty twenty, do

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Speaker 1: you think that Mike Pence would have been the nominee

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. I think there's a zero percent

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Speaker 1: chance that Mike Pence would have been the nominee even

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Speaker 1: as Trump's vice president, because I think a lot of

746
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Speaker 1: people saw him, frankly, as not a particularly strong leader.

747
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Speaker 1: I don't know that Trump would have even endorsed him.

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Speaker 1: JD Vance, on the other hand, I think as an

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Speaker 1: entirely different kind of vice president. I think even the

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Speaker 1: fight that we saw with the Zolensky, Mike Pence would

751
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Speaker 1: have never done that, and Trump backed JD Vance. I

752
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Speaker 1: will be surprised if Trump doesn't back JD. Vance in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, and so I think the political calculus

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Speaker 1: is different because Vance is going to enter into the

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Speaker 1: race and I think he's gonna run starting about twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: which isn't very long from now, as a substantial favorite

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Speaker 1: to be the publican nominee. And so if you're looking

758
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Speaker 1: around there, then you've got eight years of JD. Vance

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Speaker 1: potentially soaking up a lot of the attention. In other words,

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Speaker 1: Trump's selection of JD. Vance I don't think has been

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Speaker 1: talked about enough as being incredibly consequential in how all

762
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Speaker 1: of the political chips are set up going forward in

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Speaker 1: a way that never occurred with Mike Pence, and I

764
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: don't think would have occurred. I'm not trying to take

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Speaker 1: a shot at him. If he had picked somebody like

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Speaker 1: Doug Berghum, I don't know that there would be the

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Speaker 1: expectation of him as next man up. Does that make sense?

768
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Speaker 1: And so I'm kind of curious about the DeSantis maneuvering.

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Speaker 1: What is the play here? Casey could be governor for

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Speaker 1: eight years if she won, if she lost, and Byron

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Speaker 1: Donald's won, I also don't know how this plays out,

772
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Speaker 1: but I don't see it as just about the governor's race,

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Speaker 1: just like I don't see the New York City mayor's

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Speaker 1: race as just about the New York City mayor's race.

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Speaker 1: If that makes sense. Well, I think that the DeSantis

776
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: political brand would not really be relevant if he does

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00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: not become the nominee in twenty eight, is essentially out

778
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: of the game. So if Casey becomes the governor, then

779
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Speaker 1: you have a DeSantis in a very prominent role in

780
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Speaker 1: American politics for the foreseeable future. Right, So it's a

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Speaker 1: way of staying in the game. And you know, I

782
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: think they also really believe. Look, Ron DeSantis has done

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Speaker 1: great things in Florida, So I think that it's very

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Speaker 1: fair to say that there's also the true public service

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Speaker 1: going on of running a state the way that it

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00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: should be run, having hundreds of thousands of people moving

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Speaker 1: to that state as fast as they can, and very

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Speaker 1: happy with that move. I remember people all saying, oh,

789
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Speaker 1: everyoneho moves to Florida, They're all going to leave. Not true,

790
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: that said that is not fact. More people are continuing

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Speaker 1: to go to Florida. Yeah, And I think other states

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Speaker 1: that can are looking at some of what Florida has

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Speaker 1: done and thinking about how they could kind of they

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Speaker 1: could try to replicate it. Know, I just it's very

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Speaker 1: early in all this process. It will be interesting to see,

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Speaker 1: if you, you know, if you do have a heavyweight,

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Speaker 1: a heavyweight bout, if you will, between Casey DeSantis and

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Speaker 1: Byron Donald's. I can't imagine there'd be another candidate in

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Speaker 1: that mix who would really make a big difference in

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Speaker 1: the governor's race. But we'll see. Maybe also this talk

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Speaker 1: with Casey, maybe Ron, Ron and Trump played golf I

802
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: think very recently, so yeah, they seem to be on

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Speaker 1: good terms. Maybe this is just a conversation, but actually

804
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Speaker 1: there'll be something for Ron and the administration down the line.

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Speaker 1: Who knows. I would also point out that, yeah, I

806
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Speaker 1: bet you'll feel very comfortable signing onto this. Florida is

807
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: not a toss up state in any stretch at all.

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Speaker 1: The winner of the Republican primary is going to win

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Speaker 1: comfortably as the governor in twenty twenty six. So effectively,

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Speaker 1: the Florida governor's race, if it were Casey DeSantis versus

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Speaker 1: Byron Donald's, is actually in the primary, as often happens

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Speaker 1: in red states or blue states where there isn't a

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Speaker 1: functional competitor. I think that what the biggest legacy of

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Speaker 1: DeSantis has been. It's going to be really hard for

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Speaker 1: twenty years into the future, in the state of Florida,

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Speaker 1: and it may not happen for the next generation. That's

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Speaker 1: a pretty incredible legacy. We'll talk about there. We'll take

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Speaker 1: some of your calls. I'm curious how Floridians would would

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Speaker 1: realize that this is an eighty twenty issue against them.

856
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Speaker 1: You are still coming up against at least opposition when

857
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Speaker 1: it comes to the Democrats, the laws, they want, the policies.

858
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Speaker 1: What's the latest in the fight for women in athletics

859
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Speaker 1: not having to compete against men.

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Speaker 6: Well, it is so good to be back on with you. Look,

861
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 6: we know the American people know we are finally in

862
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Speaker 6: a position which is in total contrast to the last

863
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Speaker 6: four years. We are finally in a position to get

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Speaker 6: things done. We have the ability to especially at the

865
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Speaker 6: federal level. We've seen President Trump find a beautifully and

866
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Speaker 6: thoroughly written executive order banningman from participating in women's sports.

867
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Speaker 6: We've seen Hr twenty eight past the House. We will

868
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Speaker 6: see a cloture vote tonight in the US Senate, which

869
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 6: transparently is not looking too good. Of course, this is

870
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Speaker 6: something that you can imagine will fall on party lines.

871
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 6: They need to cross that sixty vote hurdle, so we

872
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 6: shall see there. But all that to say, this executive

873
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 6: order and what's happening at the federal level, it certainly

874
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 6: does not absolve states from doing what they need to

875
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 6: do in passing legislation to protect women. So I'm thrilled

876
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 6: today to be in Minnesota, of course, governed by Tim Walls.

877
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 6: You remember that guy Tampon, Tim. So we had a

878
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 6: fantastic rally today myself alongside people, amazing leaders like Jack Brewer,

879
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 6: who has just been fantastic in this fight. Other initiatives

880
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 6: he's taken on is you know, the fatherlessness epidemic, especially

881
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 6: among those who are incarcerated. He's amazing. So it was awesome.

882
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 6: We had so many people, you know, concerned parents, We

883
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Speaker 6: had young athletes. There are hundreds of Minnesotas who had

884
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Speaker 6: had enough who are ready to lend their voices to

885
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Speaker 6: the fight, similar to what we've seen in Main over

886
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Speaker 6: the past few days. Of course, following that interaction between

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Speaker 6: Governor Mels and President Trump just a few weeks ago.

888
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Speaker 1: Riley, appreciate you being on with us and all the

889
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Speaker 1: battles that you're fighting. I just kind of want to

890
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Speaker 1: bring this home for everybody out there listening, and you

891
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Speaker 1: can correct me if I'm wrong, because you've been far

892
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: more involved in all these details this bill to protect

893
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: women and ensure that women's sports are only played by

894
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: women only got two Democrat votes in the House. I

895
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: believe Republicans uniformly supported it, but only two Democrats did

896
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Speaker 1: in the Senate. There are fifty three Republicans that are

897
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Speaker 1: going to vote for this, but in order for it

898
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Speaker 1: to actually become a law due to the filibuster, we

899
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Speaker 1: need sixty total votes. Right, so that would mean seven

900
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: Democrat senators would need to step forward and support it.

901
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: You can explain that a little bit more. But have

902
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Speaker 1: any Democrats senators yet publicly said that they will vote.

903
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: I can't believe this is real. I still can't believe

904
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Speaker 1: this is political, that they will vote to ensure that

905
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Speaker 1: men don't compete in women's sports. Have any Democrat senators said, hey,

906
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Speaker 1: I'm for.

907
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Speaker 6: This, that's funny. Clay the only one that did listen

908
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 6: Inner Mansion, so of course is not there any longer.

909
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Speaker 6: So no, we have not seen any support from Democrats.

910
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Speaker 6: You mentioned the House, we saw two Democrats vote in

911
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Speaker 6: favor of protecting women and girls in sports, and of

912
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Speaker 6: course these were two Texas Democrats who probably don't want

913
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Speaker 6: to lose their seat in twenty twenty six or twenty

914
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Speaker 6: twenty eight, but nothing from the Senate, which is amazing

915
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Speaker 6: to me because you have all these swing states, especially

916
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Speaker 6: where you know, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada where President Trump won

917
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Speaker 6: but the Republican Senate nominee did not. So all that

918
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Speaker 6: to say, we are watching, especially people in these sway states,

919
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Speaker 6: people like Timmy Baldwin. Hopefully we can see some common

920
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 6: sense from Fetterman, that is someone who you know. Of

921
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 6: course I would not count on him, that's for sure,

922
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Speaker 6: but we've been surprised by Fetterman before a last flockin

923
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Speaker 6: potentially Senator Ossoff in Georgia, maybe Senator Warnock in Georgia.

924
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Speaker 6: These are states where we're watching. The people are watching

925
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Speaker 6: as well.

926
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Speaker 1: That's where I was going to hammer. Here is Riley,

927
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Speaker 1: the state of Georgia, double Democrat senators. Trump won by

928
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: several points. Brian Kemp, the governor has won by seven

929
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Speaker 1: or eight. I saw Tommy Tuberville share that seventy three

930
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 1: percent of Georgians, and I bet it's higher than that actually,

931
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: but seventy three percent of Georgians don't believe that women

932
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Speaker 1: should be able to compete again, that men should be

933
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Speaker 1: able to compete against women that would be wild if

934
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Speaker 1: Georgia's Democrat senators aren't willing to get online, particularly Asoff,

935
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Speaker 1: who is up for reelection and there's talk that Brian

936
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Speaker 1: Camp may be running against him. I would think that

937
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Speaker 1: that might be a pretty big deal next year in Georgia.

938
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Speaker 6: You know, I think so too, and I want it

939
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Speaker 6: to be look louding. Let me make myself very very

940
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Speaker 6: clear here. If these Democrats, or I really will say when,

941
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Speaker 6: especially those in very blue states, when these Democrats vote,

942
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 6: know they can expect twenty four to seven Republican ads

943
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Speaker 6: during the campaign cycle to consistently hammer home the fact

944
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Speaker 6: that they do not believe girls as are fair sports.

945
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Speaker 6: Senator Warnock ad Get another Georgia senator. You know, I

946
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Speaker 6: would have maybe had a little hope, But again, this

947
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 6: is the same senator who just a few weeks ago

948
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Speaker 6: voted no on the Lake and Riley Act, and that

949
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Speaker 6: happened in his home state of Georgia. So I don't

950
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 6: know if there's a lot of hope for Warnot, but

951
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Speaker 6: there are some eyes on as Off for sure.

952
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Speaker 1: We're speaking to Riley Gaines of out kicking Fox News. Riley,

953
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Speaker 1: we have fantastic VIPs on this show who write into

954
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Speaker 1: the special VIP email and one of them has a

955
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: question for you, or rather I guess a comment that

956
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to make it to you. Be sure and

957
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: ask Riley this is from Mark. Be sure and ask

958
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Speaker 1: Riley about her prayer at NASCAR yesterday where she included

959
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: President Trump in it. Awesome tell us about this one,

960
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: because I didn't see it.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm so used to the liberal backlash that

962
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 6: I receive, but yesterday I was so honored to pray

963
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 6: say the pre race invocation at the NASCAR race in Austin, Texas.

964
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 6: And so in my prayer, of course I pray for

965
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 6: the safety of the drivers and their protection and the

966
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Speaker 6: families and the staff and all of that. But in

967
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 6: my prayer I mentioned, you know, I said something to

968
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 6: the effect of bless pressart, our president, bless his cabin breast,

969
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 6: Bless all of our leaders, that they may seek the

970
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 6: Lord and his guidance and all decisions that they make,

971
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 6: because if that is done, we will never be steered

972
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 6: wrong and America will be made great again. But for

973
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 6: saying that, it is amazing the response that I've gotten,

974
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 6: which I will say is the support is tenfold anything negative.

975
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 6: But people who have reached out to me saying, you know,

976
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 6: why would you make this prayer political. Let me be clear.

977
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 6: The Bible calls Christians to pray for those in authority.

978
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 6: That's made very clear in First Timothy. So that's what

979
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 6: I was doing again, to seek the Lord's guidance and

980
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,959
Speaker 6: every decision that they make, of course, and that's something

981
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 6: I prayed for when President Biden was in office as well.

982
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 6: I prayed that his eyes would be open to the truth,

983
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 6: but I also prayed that he seeks the Lord. So

984
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 6: the backlash is just amazing to me and NASCAR, of course,

985
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 6: when I said that, you can imagine the response of

986
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 6: the crowd, roaring, applause, clapping, all the things, because NASCAR

987
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 6: is a sport where that is the base, which is

988
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 6: not why I do anything. Of course, I did not

989
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 6: say that to appease the base, but the response that

990
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 6: I received from the audience was telling.

991
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: Riley, you were in the White House when the President

992
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: signed his Protecting Women in Sports Decree and it was

993
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: an incredible scene with all the young girls in particular,

994
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: all gathered around. What has the NC double A response

995
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: been so far, and do you think it's adequate.

996
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 6: Well, the NC double A and true NC double A

997
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 6: fashion has remained spinalless. I find it very obscure to

998
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 6: believe that the NC DOUBLEA essentially grew a backbone overnight

999
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 6: and decided to protect their athletes, especially their female athletes.

1000
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 6: That they did release the statement following President Trump's executive order,

1001
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 6: Charlie Baker did saying that he will do everything to

1002
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 6: comply with this CEO and with the federal law. But

1003
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 6: they release their new policy, and this policy has glaring loopholes.

1004
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 6: First and foremost, it does not define male, female or

1005
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 6: the word sex itself. It does define gender identity, and

1006
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 6: it does define man and woman, and it says that

1007
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 6: these two words are just gender identities. So we see

1008
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 6: the problem when you don't have these terms defined. We

1009
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 6: see unelected bureaucrats growth as a backdoor and reinterpret these

1010
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 6: words to mean what they want them to mean. But

1011
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 6: the big problem here is it also it resorts to

1012
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 6: birth certificates as a way to determine sex, which again,

1013
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 6: you can change your birth certificate in all but six

1014
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 6: states in this nation and across the world for that matter.

1015
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 6: So again this is not adequate. I believe it's in

1016
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 6: direct contrasts totally conflicting with President Trump's thoroughly and beautifully

1017
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 6: written executive order. But the White House has been pretty

1018
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 6: quick to praise the NCAA in this policy, and so

1019
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 6: it's been a mission of mind to make sure they know, look,

1020
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 6: this policy is not good. And if something happens at

1021
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 6: this point, I believe President Trump will have egg on

1022
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 6: his face because he has supported this policy. So there's still,

1023
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 6: of course time for him to come back and say,

1024
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 6: you know what, Charlie Baker into double A, this is

1025
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 6: not adequate and this does not follow this executive order.

1026
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 6: So that's really what we're hoping for.

1027
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: Riley. As you're out there pushing for sanity here and

1028
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: trying to defend women's sports, I'm wondering what your take

1029
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: is on this. Clinton. I just talked about it a

1030
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: few moments ago before you came on and joined us.

1031
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: The Democrats right now, perhaps I think in retreat on

1032
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: this issue, maybe in remission on this issue, are what

1033
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: in your mind, what is it going to take for

1034
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: them to change their minds? Or rather, if they won

1035
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: the next election based on what you see out there,

1036
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: do you think that they would try to enforce all

1037
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: of the gender ideology stuff all over again. I mean,

1038
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Speaker 1: are they still committed to walking down this pathway of

1039
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Speaker 1: you know, macho man Randy Savage competing against the women

1040
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Speaker 1: in the triathlon, etc. Is that still a die in

1041
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: the world Democrat plan or do you think they are

1042
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: looking for an exit off this whole situation.

1043
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 6: You know what, if you would have asked me this

1044
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 6: before November five, I would have told you that, of

1045
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Speaker 6: course the Democrats will recant, they will distance themselves from

1046
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 6: their voting record. Kamala Harris desperately tried to do such

1047
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 6: in her campaign cycle. So that's what I would have

1048
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 6: told you. But what we have seen following the election

1049
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 6: is not at all what I expected. We have seen

1050
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 6: these elected officials, essentially the entire political party as well

1051
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 6: as you know les leaning media double triple quadrupled down

1052
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Speaker 6: on this topic, which can only lead you to believe

1053
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 6: that that really it's their religion. They are so committed,

1054
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Speaker 6: you'll I mean again, take the governor of Maine. She's

1055
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 6: willing to put her state in a position where they

1056
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 6: risk losing over five billion dollars in federal funding. As

1057
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 6: a small state population of one point four to one

1058
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 6: point five million are very poor fit. They can't survive

1059
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 6: without federal funding. But you have a governor who is

1060
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 6: willing to risk every single maners I mean federal funding

1061
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Speaker 6: for all to insist that boys have a spot to

1062
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Speaker 6: trample and you know, violate women on women's teams and

1063
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Speaker 6: in women's locker rooms. It is total lunacy. So I believe,

1064
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Speaker 6: look tomorrow, if the Democrats were to win, Let's say,

1065
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Speaker 6: you know, in four years, god forbid someone like aoc

1066
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Speaker 6: I saw this morning actually where Governor Wallas is considering

1067
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Speaker 6: running for president in twenty twenty eight. God forbid either

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Speaker 6: of these people get in office. I believe at this

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Speaker 6: point a lot can happen in four years. But I

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Speaker 6: believe they will continue to push this nonsense, that the

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Speaker 6: nonsense that the American people reject.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Riley, keep the fight going. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, by the way, is going to

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Speaker 1: happen in Minnesota? Is tampon Tim's home state going to

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Speaker 1: protect women playing sports? Or do you think they're going

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Speaker 1: to sign up and want more boys in girls' sports.

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Speaker 6: Well, Minnesota is very because they have a one vote

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Speaker 6: majority in the House and the Democrats have a one

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Speaker 6: vote majority in the Senate, so it's a very politically diverse,

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Speaker 6: confusing state, so most everything falls on party line, so

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Speaker 6: it's not hopeful. It's helpful. It will pass the House

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Speaker 6: by one vote, but it won't be heard in the Senate.

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Speaker 6: And of course, if this were to get on Governor

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Speaker 6: have the majority to override this, so look, it's not likely.

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Speaker 6: But again it's important these people are on record. Do

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Speaker 6: they believe women are worthy of calling themselves champions or not?

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Speaker 6: It's simple. This, this, how they vote on this bill

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Speaker 6: gives the Minnesotas and again the American people everything they

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Speaker 1: Riley Gain, stay in the fight, keep swimming upstream. Thanks

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