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Speaker 1: And now your hosts, Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda,
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Speaker 4: in the SWBC studios. And since it's our final show
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Speaker 3: Glad you're with us.
Speaker 4: We've got Isaiah Standback, John Matchoda, Nick Harris, We've got
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Speaker 3: I'm Kyle Yonan's gentlemen, how are we doing today?
Speaker 6: Doing fantastic. It's a beautiful morning, Kyle y, It is
Speaker 6: a beautiful morning.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit chilly. What yeah, it's chili.
Speaker 5: I'm wearing shorts, Kyle.
Speaker 6: What is Seattle whatrea can go?
Speaker 4: Are you just trying to make a point, You're just
Speaker 4: trying to show off a little bit.
Speaker 5: No, actually it is. I agree it is chilly. I
Speaker 5: will not cross the line and say that it is cold,
Speaker 5: but it is chilly mainly because of the breeze. The
Speaker 5: temperature is not bad. The breeze will cut through whatever
Speaker 5: you have on.
Speaker 6: Well, it's thirty eight degrees, so.
Speaker 7: Yeah, anything about fifty I'm good.
Speaker 3: I will say it's not fifty eight degrees or thirty eight.
Speaker 5: We're talking ut on here.
Speaker 6: Oh, let's put that up there real quick. That's amazing.
Speaker 4: If you could take my solo shot here, got that
Speaker 4: done today, got that in last night.
Speaker 5: Let's go.
Speaker 6: That's incredible.
Speaker 4: Oh hell yeah, let's go.
Speaker 6: Yeah, bad words, let's go.
Speaker 5: I need that.
Speaker 3: Se I need that.
Speaker 4: I had to commemorate my favorite moment of talking cowboys
Speaker 4: history for those of you listening on the podcast side
Speaker 4: of the I have a black T shirt on and
Speaker 4: it's a screen grab from the whip cream moment on
Speaker 4: the Hot Sauce segment Friday Show.
Speaker 6: That's phenomenal stuff.
Speaker 3: That guy, that guy right there, that guy, but that guy,
Speaker 3: how about that?
Speaker 6: That's that is amazing.
Speaker 4: I told Isaiah earlier in the week, I was like,
Speaker 4: if I walk in with a puffy jacket, just know
Speaker 4: something's coming and uh, I think you forgot.
Speaker 5: It's been a crazy week.
Speaker 3: It has been a wild week.
Speaker 5: I love that shirt. That shirt is class. That is amazing.
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame team.
Speaker 6: You'd have done the all.
Speaker 3: No, it was like online So.
Speaker 5: He's a guy, he's a guy has a guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I had to rush order it though because
Speaker 4: I wanted to get here before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 6: It's not quite the hundred liffy shirt, but it's I
Speaker 6: mean that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go on.
Speaker 6: That is incredible. Yeah, it is incredible.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: With that being said, let's get into some news and notes.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I don't know if I could drump that. But uh,
Speaker 8: practice report yesterday. Once again, since the short week, things
Speaker 8: are moving pretty quick. So yesterday was treated like a
Speaker 8: Yesterday was treated like a Friday, like a Thursday in
Speaker 8: the building. My bad, there's so much going on. Yesterday
Speaker 8: was treated like a Thursday in the building. Today will
Speaker 8: be treated more like a Saturday as far as practice
Speaker 8: schedule goes.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 8: So the practice report coming out of yesterday's practice, Rico
Speaker 8: Dudele still did not practice with his ankle injury. This
Speaker 8: is just me theorizing I'm not super confident in him
Speaker 8: playing tomorrow. Michael Gallup he missed yesterday's practice with a
Speaker 8: personal issue. I don't really know what's going on there,
Speaker 8: but wishing all the best for him. Ceedee Lamb was
Speaker 8: a full participant with his ankle injury yesterday, and we
Speaker 8: were able to even talk to him yesterday and kind
Speaker 8: of asked, like, how's that ankle? He said, I'm straight,
Speaker 8: I'll be good to go. So he'll he'll be playing tomorrow,
Speaker 8: no doubt. Let's see, oh said Yezua remained a full
Speaker 8: participant as well as Peyton Hendershot. Jay Ron Curse did
Speaker 8: not practice once again with a back issue. Still waiting
Speaker 8: to hear how severe that one is. We're all able
Speaker 8: to talk to jay Ron in the in the locker
Speaker 8: room by chance.
Speaker 6: No, yeah, I didn't. I didn't, didn't guess.
Speaker 7: So yesterday was a lot of things jammed into one day,
Speaker 7: so it was like one after another. Tony Pollard, dak
Speaker 7: CD Micah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so yeah, it was mainly Hallway stuff yesterday.
Speaker 8: Terrence Steele he was upgraded to full with his ankle injury,
Speaker 8: so looking good there, and then Cavante Turpin remains full
Speaker 8: with his shoulder injury. And then Tyron Tyron Smith had
Speaker 8: his rest day yesterday, so that's the that's the injury
Speaker 8: report going into tomorrow. The team will hold a walk
Speaker 8: through today. It's a it's a little bit more of
Speaker 8: it's a little bit more than a walk through and
Speaker 8: a little bit less than a practice. So it's typically
Speaker 8: what they do on Saturdays, and we'll have game designations
Speaker 8: coming out of today's practice, which should be around three o'clock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so a lot of just speculation at this point,
Speaker 3: nothing official.
Speaker 4: But would you say you're concerned about Ricco Daubell? What
Speaker 4: about jay Ron Curse? Where do you feel gut wise
Speaker 4: on you?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a that's another one for sure.
Speaker 8: But the thing is that if Jayron Curse can't go,
Speaker 8: I think that's going to open up some opportunities for
Speaker 8: guys like one Ya Thomas or even Izzymkuamou to get
Speaker 8: in there and even just to have some sort of
Speaker 8: some sort of presence. But I think it's more so
Speaker 8: one Yeah, like that's that's the guy I would want
Speaker 8: to see if jay Ron can't go tomorrow, that makes sense.
Speaker 7: And then if Rico can't go, you go and Douce
Speaker 7: Vaughan under Lipke.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great point. That's a great point.
Speaker 8: I say, just give Hunter Lookey about fifteen carries and
Speaker 8: you know something healthy like that.
Speaker 7: One of the most random things I saw in Charlotte
Speaker 7: was and this guy had a great seat. He was
Speaker 7: in the first row right behind, like right on the
Speaker 7: fifty right behind the Panthers bench, has a Hunter Lipke
Speaker 7: Cowboys jersey on. No way, but was wearing a cheesehead. Wow,
Speaker 7: it's just real random.
Speaker 8: It must be like a family member because he's from Wisconsin.
Speaker 8: It's got to be like a family member, just like.
Speaker 3: A stubborn family member. That's like, I'm still a fan
Speaker 3: of the I'm still I'm still a Packers fan. He's
Speaker 3: got the cheese head on, and then he's respect the jersey.
Speaker 6: I respect that a lot.
Speaker 4: We need to get you.
Speaker 3: That's that should be our Christmas present to you. Is
Speaker 3: just one hundred lifty jersey.
Speaker 6: You can wear it every day. Look, I'd wear it.
Speaker 6: I'd appreciate the gift.
Speaker 8: I know.
Speaker 3: All right, let's go ahead and jump right into this preview.
Speaker 4: Since we have a shortened week, we're down two shows,
Speaker 4: We're gonna preview both sides of the ball today. We'll
Speaker 4: start with the defensive preview up against Washington. The Washington Commanders,
Speaker 4: of course, coming in fresh off of their loss to
Speaker 4: the New York Giants. I mean, this is a team
Speaker 4: that has not been consistent. They've been up and they've
Speaker 4: been down all year long. That's just kind of how
Speaker 4: it's been for them. But they do have the league
Speaker 4: leader in passing yards at the moment, and that's same.
Speaker 4: How isn't that interesting?
Speaker 7: So I mean a lot of times they come from
Speaker 7: playing in a lot of games here now and throwing
Speaker 7: a lot.
Speaker 5: But yeah, you're off as a coordinator, just maybe a
Speaker 5: dude the.
Speaker 6: Enemy is just though, is he's a head coach, he's
Speaker 6: a future coach, needs.
Speaker 5: To be most likely to head coach next year, I
Speaker 5: would assume of Washington.
Speaker 6: Yes, interesting, I wouldn't hate it.
Speaker 7: What'd you do?
Speaker 5: But new ownership, based off of they being able to
Speaker 5: see everything, what has been, what what needs to be,
Speaker 5: what the team needs, I think they're I think the
Speaker 5: ownership group over there now, I don't think they're in
Speaker 5: a business of playing games well based off of their
Speaker 5: four and seven record. They're gonna have to change something
Speaker 5: down the line. But they've been scoring points for the
Speaker 5: most part. Yeah, the quarterback is the is a problem.
Speaker 3: Sam Howe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, twelve interceptions, I believe that is. I think he
Speaker 5: has twelve on the year something like that. He does twelve. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he's not doing very well. And his interceptions are bad.
Speaker 5: They are They are bad reads, man, and bad decisions.
Speaker 5: It's just terrible decisions. I'm talking about like pull you
Speaker 5: in the first quarter type decisions. Because they must not
Speaker 5: have anybody else that they feel good about on his roster,
Speaker 5: because the decision is that he is making is absolutely insane.
Speaker 5: They are not I know they have Jacoby Brissett, that's
Speaker 5: their backup, but like they're going to draft a quarterback
Speaker 5: very high. Like if they don't have a high pick
Speaker 5: at the end of this year, they will trade up
Speaker 5: and go get a quarterback because Eric b Enemy is
Speaker 5: not going to go to waste in Washington. It's not
Speaker 5: gonna happen. And right now you see the office, you
Speaker 5: see the potential. They're scoring points, they're getting yards, all
Speaker 5: that jazz, but there's the mistakes that keeps putting them
Speaker 5: in terrible to the situations and it's because of their
Speaker 5: quarterback play. It is they they would continue to ads
Speaker 5: to their personnel groups. Okay, they have some pieces. Obviously,
Speaker 5: they have good running back, to have scary terry receiver.
Speaker 5: Those things are all in place, but they you can't
Speaker 5: fix a bad quarterback.
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, man, like a Jayden Daniels or Michael PENNOCKX
Speaker 6: in Washington with Eric that'd be fun.
Speaker 3: Washington and Washington.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 3: They would currently hold the seventh pick in the draft
Speaker 3: right now, by the way.
Speaker 6: That would put them in prime like Jaden Daniels, quin
Speaker 6: you weres J J. McCarthy territory.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 7: So that doesn't answer anything to be on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm with you.
Speaker 7: I mean, those guys are great college quarterbacks, but I
Speaker 7: don't know if I'm sitting here going, oh no, they
Speaker 7: got Pennix and Daniels, they've fixed it all.
Speaker 5: Okay, No, they have a lot of work, But you
Speaker 5: have to start there.
Speaker 7: About this Heisman race that I find interesting how it's
Speaker 7: like all these guys have been playing like ten years
Speaker 7: in college, all on their second I mean, there's just
Speaker 7: let's yeah, I'm with you on it's great for college.
Speaker 3: I love college from Washington.
Speaker 7: It's my favorite thing.
Speaker 6: But you mean Oregon sam Ellinger, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 7: Sam Howell was good in.
Speaker 3: College too, so he was very good in college.
Speaker 4: I will say outside of that, they have name recognition.
Speaker 4: I mean, you've got Brian Robinson junior. He's having a
Speaker 4: nice year. Five hundred and fifty eight yards, he's got
Speaker 4: five touchdowns, he's been decent, but they've been really running
Speaker 4: him significantly four yards per carry, so it's not like
Speaker 4: he's really torching people. Then you've got Terry McLaurin, Logan,
Speaker 4: Thomas johan Dotson, Curtis Samuel those four legitimate.
Speaker 5: Targets to throw the football too. You got to be
Speaker 5: able to throw it. Yeah, It really just it comes
Speaker 5: down to him just making terrible decisions. So some of
Speaker 5: the things that we've seen from Dak in the past
Speaker 5: were now we're praising him for just tucking the ball
Speaker 5: sometimes taking the sack right, throwing the ball out of bounce.
Speaker 5: That's exactly where Sam Howe's at right now. Right Dak
Speaker 5: had had his interception run last year, Sam Howe's smack
Speaker 5: dab in the middle of that. But the only thing is,
Speaker 5: you know what Dak Prescott is capable of, and so
Speaker 5: you were able to give him grace last year, right
Speaker 5: as a fan. As a fan, you're able to give
Speaker 5: him grace because you're like, ah, that's a terrible year
Speaker 5: for you. You know, bad decisions, interceptions, Okay, but we
Speaker 5: know that you're going to get better. That we know
Speaker 5: that what you're capable of. Sam Howell, not so much
Speaker 5: the case, Sam how You're just in the thick of it,
Speaker 5: just kind of just Mari nadan In just garbage and
Speaker 5: he's making these garbage decisions and he's throwing garbage passes,
Speaker 5: and you don't have the hope, you don't have the
Speaker 5: evidence of times past to say, okay's this is just
Speaker 5: a rut that he's in and he's going to get
Speaker 5: out of this. We'll be better going forward. Right now,
Speaker 5: they're hopeless out there, and Dallas has all the hope
Speaker 5: in the world going into this game because of Sam
Speaker 5: how So, who do you.
Speaker 3: Think that benefits on the defensive side? Is it is
Speaker 3: it the takeaway category.
Speaker 7: Or is it the pressure that takes away that you
Speaker 7: can think of, like who takes the ball away? Would
Speaker 7: who would want to throw the ball.
Speaker 5: Near Gallimore with the interception?
Speaker 3: That's who you want?
Speaker 5: Would Neville Gallimore interception ran back for a touchdown? Could
Speaker 5: you imagine celebration.
Speaker 6: Could you imagine if Mazi did it? Oh jeez, on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 5: He just do it, be exactly what he would do.
Speaker 8: I think it benefits anybody with a start in their helmet.
Speaker 8: On the defensive side, I mean that the pressures are
Speaker 8: going to get there. Sam Housman under pressure literally every
Speaker 8: time he's breathed post snap this season, So that pass
Speaker 8: rush is going to get home. It's going to force
Speaker 8: turnovers on the back end. I think this is the
Speaker 8: week that Gilmour gets a gets a big pick. That's
Speaker 8: kind of what I felt the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 8: But that's what Deron Bland got last week instead.
Speaker 3: But would you like to make a bed?
Speaker 6: Just kidding look at me. I'm not the next one
Speaker 6: to make a bet on the show.
Speaker 4: Oh you're right, So I want to see you're you're
Speaker 4: talking about decisions and we're talking about how they do
Speaker 4: have held on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what what's the other side? I mean of the
Speaker 7: bat So if he doesn't get out of it, if
Speaker 7: he wouldn't have gotten one hundred yards, I would have
Speaker 7: had to do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Oh, I never heard anything about that.
Speaker 5: There was really no point because it was you're talking
Speaker 5: about he had it in the first half, so I
Speaker 5: was very confident Cooks is going to get over one hundred.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah yeah, if yeah, if he didn't hit that,
Speaker 3: Mark Isaiah would do it.
Speaker 4: And then if it was right down the middle, if
Speaker 4: it was one hundred and it was a push away,
Speaker 4: all three of us.
Speaker 5: Were going to do I would his palette is way
Speaker 5: more tolerable to mine.
Speaker 3: I would have cried the whole way all right, we
Speaker 3: would have the shirt. That wouldn't have the shirt.
Speaker 7: That's great quite the moment.
Speaker 4: The But going back to the conversation of the decision
Speaker 4: making and the pressure, do you feel like the pressure
Speaker 4: that Sam Howe's under is a benefactor to some of
Speaker 4: those decisions. Maybe he just doesn't trust the offensive line
Speaker 4: and he trusts his weapons enough to try and go
Speaker 4: get the football.
Speaker 5: I can see that.
Speaker 3: I think it's just straight back quarterbacking. It could be
Speaker 3: that too.
Speaker 5: I think it's a combination, right, it's a combination of everything.
Speaker 5: But there's no way that he continually keeps making these
Speaker 5: decisions like he just literally is just chucking it in
Speaker 5: the air and just kind of just wishing upon the
Speaker 5: star and almost like take the ball don't take me.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, like pretty much is what
Speaker 5: it looks like, and it's unfathomable as a starting quarterback
Speaker 5: in the NFL, but that's what they're in and they're
Speaker 5: just weathering the storm.
Speaker 6: The bright side is he's got weapons.
Speaker 8: He's got Brian Robinson and Antonio Gibson out of the backfield.
Speaker 8: He's got Terry McLaurin, Curtis Samuel Johan Dottson. I mean,
Speaker 8: these are all guys that we've looked at in the
Speaker 8: last two to three years and said, you know, he's
Speaker 8: had a good game, or he's a guy that could
Speaker 8: be scary, and then the tide end grad Logan Thomas
Speaker 8: has really stepped up this year and become a really
Speaker 8: good safety net option across the middle for him, and
Speaker 8: he does a lot of things out of that tight
Speaker 8: end position. I think, honestly, that's going to be a
Speaker 8: really big challenge for Dallas, especially if General Curse can't go.
Speaker 8: You look at Logan Thomas as a guy who could
Speaker 8: probably have a big day. His size is athleticism, but
Speaker 8: it's not gonna matter if the pressures get home like
Speaker 8: they did against Carolina and you saw it really crashing
Speaker 8: on Bryce Young there. It was after their touchdown drive
Speaker 8: whenever he just he couldn't get anything out of the
Speaker 8: pocket and things couldn't develop at all downfield. I think
Speaker 8: you'll probably see that against the Commanders, but I think
Speaker 8: earlier in the game it's a much more difficult offensive
Speaker 8: line situation up front for them.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I look back to just last year's game. I
Speaker 7: thought it was interesting that Dak mentioned that right on
Speaker 7: the podium when he was asked about like looking a
Speaker 7: had I mean, it's not going to be something you
Speaker 7: have to really dig up here. They're pretty aware of
Speaker 7: how the egg that they laid in that Week eighteen
Speaker 7: last time that they played Washington. And now I will
Speaker 7: say that's more because of the offense. And I know
Speaker 7: we're talking about the Cowboys defense right now, but I'm
Speaker 7: just bringing that up because I just don't have any
Speaker 7: concerns about the Cowboys defense being able to handle business
Speaker 7: against this Washington offense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those things where you can call
Speaker 4: it a trap game where you want, but there's no
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any trapping Dallas this week because
Speaker 4: of that eight Week eighteen matchup.
Speaker 7: I mean, they went twenty six to six. Yeah, Sam
Speaker 7: Howell threw for one hundred and sixty nine yards, one touchdown,
Speaker 7: one interception. It's not like, oh, they just put on
Speaker 7: because he's had some glited year where he throws for
Speaker 7: over three hundred yards and it keeps them in games
Speaker 7: and things like that. But that wasn't why they beat
Speaker 7: the Cowboys last year twenty six to six. The Cowboys
Speaker 7: offense was terrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a gosh, that was a rough game.
Speaker 4: If we see anything close to that tomorrow, I would
Speaker 4: be beside myself shocked.
Speaker 3: I don't think you're gonna see anything close to that.
Speaker 4: By the way, the nine to seven one says Nick
Speaker 4: just keeps disrespecting bodacious bo Nicks. It's part of it
Speaker 4: bo Nicks at me, Yeah, Isaiah's disrespectful.
Speaker 5: Bow Nicks have a freaking banner on a building in Dallas.
Speaker 3: I know, man, Yeah, really make that makes sense.
Speaker 6: Some strange stuff. So he has a he has.
Speaker 7: Perhaps the University of Oregon.
Speaker 5: They spend money.
Speaker 7: Man, he's got some the same thing that that's the
Speaker 7: same one that's in time Square.
Speaker 5: The only reason why they're ranked that high.
Speaker 8: He's got some financial people live in Dallas. I'll say that,
Speaker 8: but I was looking at a staft the other day
Speaker 8: Bo Nixon. I think it was sixty eight percent of
Speaker 8: his passing yards or yards after the catch, Like, get
Speaker 8: him out of here, get him out of stop.
Speaker 5: It, stop it?
Speaker 2: You do.
Speaker 4: Top yeah, but without mind strike at four.
Speaker 3: Four, Top four, top four, year off again, year back there?
Speaker 5: Top four?
Speaker 4: What number do you wear in college?
Speaker 5: Were four?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 5: Just your top four? Though?
Speaker 4: All right, let's take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 4: We're gonna do some QB vision. We're gonna take a
Speaker 4: look at the Washington defense, the biggest segment of the year.
Speaker 3: Really, you that quick.
Speaker 4: We've got to talk about something around this game.
Speaker 6: Some guys defense.
Speaker 4: Yes, there are there, definitely are. When we come back
Speaker 4: with more talking cowboys.
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Speaker 4: Commanders on Thanksgiving Day. They've faced Washington on Thanksgiving Day
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Speaker 4: Nick Harris, John Matchoda. I'm Kyle Yeomans with Chris Beam
Speaker 4: in the back, Isaiah standback has us some why Dadie,
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Speaker 5: Go for it. Well, Kyle, I hate to disappoint the
Speaker 5: people out there. It's not a lot the last few weeks,
Speaker 5: there hasn't been much right. We kind of told you
Speaker 5: what to expect last.
Speaker 4: Week, and this Washington team didn't give up a whole lot.
Speaker 3: Of the gain.
Speaker 5: This Washington team is at the bottom of the league
Speaker 5: in defense. Felt like we said that the last few weeks,
Speaker 5: but that.
Speaker 4: Is they only gave up thirty seven against Buffalo, thirty
Speaker 4: four against Philly, forty against Chicago, forty against Chicago. That's
Speaker 4: twenty yeah, thirty eight against Philadelphia. But that was a
Speaker 4: close game. It was thirty eight thirty one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, good talk. Yeah, So you guys given up a
Speaker 5: lot of points. They're not a good defense. However, let's
Speaker 5: address the elephant in the room. There's actually two elephants
Speaker 5: in the room to Alabama elephants in a room actually
Speaker 5: down there. You see what I did there, Big Big
Speaker 5: Jonathan Allen and Deron Payne. Those guys are still in
Speaker 5: the building. Everybody thinks, oh okay, this d line is
Speaker 5: not as day as they once were, and they're not
Speaker 5: as dangerous as they once were because obviously they traded
Speaker 5: away their their their their defensive ends at Montese Sweat
Speaker 5: and Chase you Chase Young, So got rid of both
Speaker 5: of those guys. So if you were going to run
Speaker 5: the ball against this defense, John, where would you run it?
Speaker 5: Would you run in the middle?
Speaker 7: Probably not?
Speaker 5: Probably not, yeah, probably not. Now that those guys are gone,
Speaker 5: they're a little soft around the edges, kind of like
Speaker 5: the the end caps of the bread kill, a little
Speaker 5: soft around the edges. So you can definitely run the ball.
Speaker 5: You could top this rock to the edges, but don't
Speaker 5: mess with those big fellas in the middle, Like don't
Speaker 5: like you're gonna have to see them, but like don't
Speaker 5: attack them. Like let's let's not be let's not be silly. Okay.
Speaker 5: If there's a way to get from one side of
Speaker 5: the of a brick wall to the other, the best
Speaker 5: route is probably going around. So let's let's do that.
Speaker 5: Let's take that route and go around these big fellas
Speaker 5: in the middle. They have big John Ridgeway. If you
Speaker 5: guys remember that name. Last year's fourth round pick was
Speaker 5: a fifth Sorry that was fifth. Sorry, I keep thinking
Speaker 5: about myself last year number four. Yeah, the four just
Speaker 5: keeps popping up. Last year's fifth round pick for Dallas
Speaker 5: Cowboys that obviously did not make the roster. The Washington
Speaker 5: picked them up, and he's actually making a contribution. Surprisingly,
Speaker 5: he's making some good contributions. He's showing up on the film.
Speaker 5: But that is pretty much the synopsis of their defensive front.
Speaker 5: That's where they're strong at. That's where the strength of
Speaker 5: their defense is at. As you get to the secondary,
Speaker 5: I don't have a guy that sticks out for me.
Speaker 5: I know they have a few names, but there are
Speaker 5: not any there's nobody that's popped out on the film.
Speaker 5: To me, this defense is much like the charge the Chargers.
Speaker 5: To me, this is very similar to the Chargers, except
Speaker 5: for I guess they're similar in the sense that they
Speaker 5: play they want to play a too high show. They
Speaker 5: want to play cover four, they want to sit back.
Speaker 5: We've seen that story a couple of times this year.
Speaker 5: The Rams ran a lot of that and the Chargers
Speaker 5: ran a lot of that. Right, very similar defenses. Cover four,
Speaker 5: ben but don't break. We're gonna sit back and keep
Speaker 5: everything in front of us type of deal. That's what
Speaker 5: they want to do. The thing that they do that
Speaker 5: I think is pretty pretty clever, and that might have
Speaker 5: an impact on Dallas because Dallas runs so many over
Speaker 5: routes with ceed Lamb specifically. We've seen it with Ceede Lamb.
Speaker 5: We've seen it with Comant Toe Turpin on his touchdown.
Speaker 5: We've seen it with Brandon Cooks on his big play
Speaker 5: a couple weeks back. Is they cut their safeties and
Speaker 5: when I say cut their backside, to cut their safeties,
Speaker 5: meaning they run this cover four umbrella coverage right cornerback
Speaker 5: has a quarter safety safety as a quarter cornerback has
Speaker 5: a quarter but what happens is a lot of times
Speaker 5: there's only three underneath the fenders, and you could you
Speaker 5: can easily take advantage of their between their second and
Speaker 5: their third level defenders by running over routes. The way
Speaker 5: in which they negate that they cut that out is
Speaker 5: they take that backside safety and they cut that corner.
Speaker 5: They cut that over route with that guy. Meaning if
Speaker 5: I see you running over, John and I'm playing the
Speaker 5: backside safety as I see you coming over, I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna let you just cross in front of me. I'm
Speaker 5: now going to drop down as if it's a single
Speaker 5: high coverage and I'm gonna cut off your route. Right,
Speaker 5: So if the quarterback sees cover four, then you think
Speaker 5: that it's open. Hey, this over route is typically open
Speaker 5: versus cover four. They want to give that appearance and
Speaker 5: that then that safety is going to drop down and
Speaker 5: try to intercept the ball or take your head off
Speaker 5: by picking off that that over route.
Speaker 6: Is there a way to bait that though, with like
Speaker 6: Brandon Cook's coming over.
Speaker 5: The top, by the time you bait it, you've been
Speaker 5: in the pocket for forces. It's a long time. So right,
Speaker 5: so I'm saying you're coming across the formation, you're getting
Speaker 5: behind the linebackers, you're working up to the backside safety.
Speaker 5: That's where that that kind of that honey hole passes
Speaker 5: right a goal post throw, throw it up and over,
Speaker 5: drops over the the second level defenders, and it drops
Speaker 5: in right between the third level defenders. Being the safety.
Speaker 5: These guys don't want that. They know that Cover four
Speaker 5: is a soft defense. So the only way that they
Speaker 5: can make it a little bit tougher is by ensuring
Speaker 5: that the over routes don't happen. So you do that
Speaker 5: both safeties. It's not like one safety has has the
Speaker 5: role of being the cutting safety is whatever side you're
Speaker 5: going to, if you're going to his side, he's going
Speaker 5: to drop down and try to cut you off. So
Speaker 5: by the time you if you take a snapshot of
Speaker 5: this defense at the completion of the play or what
Speaker 5: the ball was in the air, is going to look
Speaker 5: like a Cover three, it's gonna look like a soft
Speaker 5: Cover three because the cornerbacks are going to be out
Speaker 5: of there the safety. One safety is going to be
Speaker 5: back further, and one safety is kind to kind of
Speaker 5: drop down a little bit. So if you're not paying attention,
Speaker 5: it will look like a single high safety, but when
Speaker 5: you look at the coverage of the corners and the
Speaker 5: techniques and all that stuff, it is a very very
Speaker 5: soft Cover four with just a safety that's cutting. So
Speaker 5: that's pretty much what they like to run. They'll run
Speaker 5: a Cover two from kind to time. Every so often
Speaker 5: they'll drop down to a single high and play man,
Speaker 5: but it's not what they want to do. It's not
Speaker 5: their thing. They don't have the pass rushers to get home,
Speaker 5: to be to be applying pressure while playing while playing
Speaker 5: Cover one, you can't play man and not get pressure.
Speaker 5: So they're not putting themselves in that situation. They're saying, Hey,
Speaker 5: we're gonna keep everything in front of us. We want
Speaker 5: to play downhill hopefully paying and Allen can get home
Speaker 5: by kind of two gapping and driving guys back. But
Speaker 5: that's pretty much what they have going on defensively, and
Speaker 5: it shows because they're at the bottom of the league
Speaker 5: and all the statistics defensively.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're lasting points per game, points per game allowed
Speaker 4: over twenty seven and a half points per game allowed,
Speaker 4: most by any Ron Rivera coach team. They're twenty ninth
Speaker 4: in total yards allowed, passing yards allowed. Their thirtieth and
Speaker 4: passing touchdowns allowed. They've allowed twenty four passing touchdowns, which
Speaker 4: is dead.
Speaker 7: Last, and opposing quarterbacks passer raining against them as one
Speaker 7: hundred point seven, which is the worst league. That's so
Speaker 7: I don't see any way, especially with the way Dak's
Speaker 7: playing right now and how they've played at home. I
Speaker 7: don't see any issues with them being able to throw
Speaker 7: the ball, but I am interested to see how they
Speaker 7: run against them. Yeah, And the only reason why I
Speaker 7: say that is just because last year, if you look
Speaker 7: at the Cowboys worst games in terms of running the football,
Speaker 7: the worst two were both against the Commanders.
Speaker 5: Interesting.
Speaker 7: Yeah, now, they won the first one and they only
Speaker 7: rushed for sixty two yards. That was their worst game
Speaker 7: of the season. But that last game against the Commanders
Speaker 7: they only ran for sixty four yards, And then that
Speaker 7: was the Tampa Bay game only ran for seventy one,
Speaker 7: and then the Niners game only ran for seventy six.
Speaker 7: So those are three losses out of those four. They
Speaker 7: beat the Commanders despite only running for sixty two yards,
Speaker 7: But I don't see them having as much of an
Speaker 7: issue you running the ball with some of the moves
Speaker 7: that they've made because it's to me. Also, the thing
Speaker 7: with the Commanders is it's not just the personnel. It's
Speaker 7: the message that's sent when you trade away Montese Sweat,
Speaker 7: when you trade away Chase Young. It's that there's things
Speaker 7: like that that when a teams I think they've lost
Speaker 7: seven of their last nine, I mean, who's really really?
Speaker 7: I mean, I guess it could happen, but it's very
Speaker 7: rare that a team just like, no, we'll overcome that,
Speaker 7: We'll play better without those guys. It's probably not going
Speaker 7: to happen, But I am interested, especially with like you said,
Speaker 7: Nick ricodoud Will being injured. What do they do in
Speaker 7: the run game? You know, can Tony Pollard build off
Speaker 7: of that run? I thought that that was his best
Speaker 7: run of the season, the touchdown run last week, the
Speaker 7: twenty one yarder, broke four or five tackles, ran angry.
Speaker 7: Can he build off that? Can you have another run
Speaker 7: like that? That's kind of more what I'm looking for
Speaker 7: as opposed to ken the Cowboys win this game.
Speaker 4: We had a question from the nine to one seven
Speaker 4: off of that, do you feel like there's maybe a
Speaker 4: chance for Dallas to force the issue in a good
Speaker 4: way or a bad way to run the football with Tony.
Speaker 5: Pollard on the interior, whor do you have to go outside.
Speaker 5: I am not in the business of challenging these two
Speaker 5: guys up front. I mean, obviously you have to have
Speaker 5: some inside runs, right because people take that and run
Speaker 5: with it. Oh, you have to run inside. Let's go outside.
Speaker 5: Let's make that the primary if you had to, you know,
Speaker 5: if you had to split it up, I want seventy
Speaker 5: percent outside. Get the edges, combo block right, your center
Speaker 5: and your guard working together to be able to try
Speaker 5: to seal allen or pain whichever direction you want to go.
Speaker 5: Because those guys are gonna be sitting smack dab in
Speaker 5: the middle next to each other's like Siamese twins, So
Speaker 5: you might as well find a way to get to
Speaker 5: one side of them. If you come downhill at them,
Speaker 5: it's not gonna turn out.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 5: I don't care if you have Tyler Smith Adam on them.
Speaker 5: I don't care if you have Zach Martinaham and like
Speaker 5: these guys are these are dogs? Like these guys are
Speaker 5: they're freaking good twins. Yeah, seriously, I mean, at the
Speaker 5: very I mean, you could hope if you have one
Speaker 5: on one on these guys. You're hoping to have a
Speaker 5: stealemate at the defensive line, right, You're you're hoping that
Speaker 5: these guys just don't go anywhere. Like that's a win
Speaker 5: if you're playing against these guys coming downhill straight at them. Like, so,
Speaker 5: don't don't be silly and try to think that you're
Speaker 5: gonna move these guys off the ball, you know, repeatedly.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that you might win one or two
Speaker 5: or you know, across a whole game span, but like,
Speaker 5: don't make that your mission. Don't don't don't do that.
Speaker 8: Somebody had asked Tony Pollard ahead of the San Francisco
Speaker 8: game earlier in the season, talking about Trent Williams was
Speaker 8: referring to the Cowboys as an ice bag game, and
Speaker 8: you know, it's always going to be physical, And they
Speaker 8: asked Tony Poller's like, hey, do you feel like San
Speaker 8: Francisco's an icebag game? Which, looking back, that's kind of tone,
Speaker 8: def considering he broke his leg against San Francisco the
Speaker 8: previous year. But anyway, he was like, no, not really,
Speaker 8: Washington is the is the icebag game? So I asked
Speaker 8: him about that yesterday. I was like why do you
Speaker 8: feel like it's an icebag game and it's the same thing.
Speaker 8: Super physical in the interior. Those guys they whenever they
Speaker 8: bring you down, they bring you down, they put all
Speaker 8: that body weight on you.
Speaker 6: They know how to just like make you tired within
Speaker 6: the tackle.
Speaker 8: But he also did mention that Montese Sweat and Chase
Speaker 8: Young were part of that as well, So a little
Speaker 8: bit of different personnel up front, but I think it's
Speaker 8: still going to be as physical.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a question.
Speaker 4: I know we already talked about the defense, but before
Speaker 4: we get into pre predictions, I want to kind of
Speaker 4: reiterate this. Do you feel like the opposite thing can
Speaker 4: happen against the Dallas run defense and Washington running the
Speaker 4: football more effectively with their run game and maybe trying
Speaker 4: to take the ball out of Sam Howe's hands a
Speaker 4: little bit On the opposite side, I think they'll try
Speaker 4: kind of complete opposite from all way on the opposite.
Speaker 5: No, absolutely, I think they'll try. I think Eric Bannaby
Speaker 5: will obviously try his best to put forth the best
Speaker 5: game plan, and the best game plan against Dallas is
Speaker 5: running the ball. There's no doubt about it. They have
Speaker 5: the personnel to do so in the backfield. The question
Speaker 5: is do they have the offensive lineman that can go
Speaker 5: out there and move that Dallas' defensive line off the ball.
Speaker 5: And they'll test that out early and if they are
Speaker 5: having some success there, Eric banna Mey is smart enough,
Speaker 5: savvy enough and discipline enough to keep going with that.
Speaker 5: Now he wants to throw the ball, I'll put you
Speaker 5: know he's he is the sinse to Kellen Moore. I
Speaker 5: consider that right, He's the dragonfly Jones of throwing the ball.
Speaker 5: So I think they he wants to get to throw
Speaker 5: on the ball. But if he knows that the best
Speaker 5: way to do it to beat Dallas is run the ball,
Speaker 5: run the clock out, don't you know, try to keep
Speaker 5: these guys out there, get him tired, and don't allow
Speaker 5: this offense to get back on the field. That's what
Speaker 5: he wants to do. He wants to wear you, wear
Speaker 5: you down. He did the same thing in Kansas City,
Speaker 5: except for instead of running the ball doing it, he
Speaker 5: would throw the ball all over the place and he would,
Speaker 5: you know, use the screens. He would use the quick
Speaker 5: little passes, the now routes, to slant routes, all those
Speaker 5: kind of things to be his running game when they
Speaker 5: didn't have a solid running back, and that's how he
Speaker 5: wore you down, you know, made you go sideline the sideline.
Speaker 5: I can foresee some of those things going on and
Speaker 5: him forcing maybe Gilmour to come up and try to
Speaker 5: be physical out on the edges instead of trying to
Speaker 5: come downhill at our defensive line. Not to say that
Speaker 5: we have the greatest run stopping defense. They've done a
Speaker 5: great job. Last week. They got beat up a little bit.
Speaker 5: But if I'm Eric Banamy, I want these cornerbacks to
Speaker 5: have to go out there and make plays because I'm
Speaker 5: gonna wear you down, wear down your your your I'm
Speaker 5: gonna get away from your biggest asset, which is your
Speaker 5: defensive line and your rush, your pass rush. And then
Speaker 5: I know that Deron blan is having a heck of
Speaker 5: a season and I know that Gilmore is a sav event,
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna make those guys tired and didn't. Once
Speaker 5: those guys are tired, now I'm gonna pass the ball
Speaker 5: down the field and I'm gonna se those guys can
Speaker 5: come out of the auditor break.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because they may have to do that.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at some of these Sam how sacked numbers
Speaker 4: and their mind Bossard, how much he's been pressured. Sam
Speaker 4: Howe has been sacked a commander's franchise record fifty one
Speaker 4: times in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: Reminder, we're in.
Speaker 4: Week twelve and he's been sacked fifty one times. No
Speaker 4: other quarterback has more than forty this year. The previous
Speaker 4: record was forty nine by Trent Green in nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 4: and he played in fifteen games that year. Hall is
Speaker 4: on pace to be the third quarterback in NFL history
Speaker 4: to lead the NFL in both passing yards and times
Speaker 4: sacked in the same season. He would be the first
Speaker 4: one to do it since Jeff George in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 7: I just can't even take you serious right now because
Speaker 7: I keep looking at that shirt.
Speaker 8: Yeah, sure, I always got a clipse of it, and
Speaker 8: it just throw me off. He's on pace to break
Speaker 8: the David Carr record, like by healthy, what is that
Speaker 8: seventy six?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he could get there healthy, especially if Dallas gets
Speaker 4: home and they do throw the football around. That's what
Speaker 4: Dallas wants teams to do. They want them to drop
Speaker 4: back and throw it. And Washington has I like Brian
Speaker 4: Robinson Junr.
Speaker 5: I do like what he brings to the table.
Speaker 4: If he plays a good game and they're able to
Speaker 4: block up front, they may just run him one hundred
Speaker 4: times and that might be better than him dropping back
Speaker 4: and trying to throw against this fast.
Speaker 5: I foresee there being at least ten like forms of
Speaker 5: wide receiver screens in this game, Like just get it
Speaker 5: out of my hand quick boom right right now, make
Speaker 5: one block as another receiver. Make one block now, I'm
Speaker 5: trying to get five six yards right, which you know what?
Speaker 6: That'll pave way to turnovers? And can I pick sixes?
Speaker 6: Who could do that on this team?
Speaker 4: If Doron has the pick six this week, what would
Speaker 4: the national reaction be? Of course, Cowboys Nation would lose
Speaker 4: their mind. I feel like I would lose.
Speaker 8: He's starting to get that national buzz, like it's starting
Speaker 8: to happen, like you could see more, you see more
Speaker 8: people pick them up.
Speaker 7: So the two games against Commanders last year, the Commanders
Speaker 7: ran for one fifty, so that was obviously a huge
Speaker 7: part of their game plan and they had success to it.
Speaker 5: So completely different OC though, Yeah, completely different OC different approach, right,
Speaker 5: So I mean, yeah, they've had success in the past,
Speaker 5: But again you have to see is that going to
Speaker 5: be their approach this year? Yeah, you know, I mean personnel.
Speaker 5: A lot of the personnels are the same, but again,
Speaker 5: being in me has a completely different mind, and I
Speaker 5: think you really can lean on his history as a
Speaker 5: OC and see exactly how you can slow it. He
Speaker 5: wants to get to the throw. He wants to get
Speaker 5: the throwing. So how can I how can I have
Speaker 5: a negative impact on these defensive backs? These guys have
Speaker 5: been all over the place, right, how can I wear
Speaker 5: them down? It's not even so much. I can't wear
Speaker 5: down this defensive line. That's reality. I can't wear these
Speaker 5: guys down. There's waves of them, right, There's there's three
Speaker 5: waves of defensive line. So if I spend my energy
Speaker 5: trying to trying to beat these guys, Okay, I got
Speaker 5: Michael Parson, I got d law I got them tired. Okay,
Speaker 5: Now there's a Sam Williams, there's a Dante Fowler. Now
Speaker 5: there's somebody else coming in right, So those it's like
Speaker 5: facing the dou Juggernaut. Like there's this there's just waves
Speaker 5: right playing the Horde mode on uh what was the
Speaker 5: name of the video game. I can't remember anyways, right,
Speaker 5: Sorry I blanked out, but yeah, what hoard? Here's the war.
Speaker 5: Here's a war playing zombis level and call of duty
Speaker 5: right like, there's waves of them, so like it doesn't
Speaker 5: make sense to take that approach because the next man
Speaker 5: that's coming in is is gonna be just as effective.
Speaker 5: So where do I know that they don't.
Speaker 4: Have that depth outside?
Speaker 5: So I could physically beat them up by blocking them,
Speaker 5: trying to run them into the dog on gatorade, you know,
Speaker 5: a patch, and then when they're tired, now I can
Speaker 5: throw the ball. Now I can throw the ball on them, right,
Speaker 5: and now I can see, Okay, are these guys able
Speaker 5: to defend because they don't want to play zone Dallas
Speaker 5: wants to play man. So now they have to follow
Speaker 5: me around the field while they're gassed, while they're physically
Speaker 5: beat up, and now I can get to the concepts
Speaker 5: that I really want to get to. So that's that
Speaker 5: would be me if I'm airy being me, that's my
Speaker 5: game plan. I'm gonna wear out your corners and I'm
Speaker 5: gonna say, okayf Dron Bland or Gilmore have to go out.
Speaker 5: Now who's coming in?
Speaker 8: I'm running the ball I'm running the ball distantly like
Speaker 8: thirty times, like I'm just hand off Brian Robinson, hand
Speaker 8: off Brian Robinson.
Speaker 5: I'm running it as screen outside receiver screen. That's what
Speaker 5: I'm doing.
Speaker 6: I'm doing perspected. I see, I see your vision.
Speaker 8: But man, I'm seeing what Miles Sanders did to that
Speaker 8: defense at times last week whenever he was really starting
Speaker 8: to find a groove. And you look at what is
Speaker 8: plagued this defense the most this season. I prove to
Speaker 8: I'm I'm going out there if I most see I'm saying, hey,
Speaker 8: you're gonna have to show me that you can stop
Speaker 8: Brian Robinson. That's one I think that's one of the
Speaker 8: more physical runners will see all season.
Speaker 4: It's lots of pressure on the front seven to get
Speaker 4: the job done against Washington tomorrow. Who's going to get
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Speaker 3: As always should be a whole lot of fun. All right,
Speaker 3: it's time to get to our pick'ems. Though, let's pick
Speaker 3: them last week. I don't know if this has ever
Speaker 3: happened before.
Speaker 4: Every single person had the exact same record.
Speaker 5: Let's go.
Speaker 4: Everybody was four and two. Everybody, how about that pretty
Speaker 4: wild look at us? So our stand look at us
Speaker 4: were just to update the entire standings. Bringing up the
Speaker 4: rear right now is none other than Isaiah's right, I
Speaker 4: see everybody thirty four and twenty six, so he is
Speaker 4: a solid six games above five hundred. Next up on
Speaker 4: that list, John Machoda eight games above five hundred, bad math, Actually.
Speaker 3: Twelve games up five hundred. It is bad math.
Speaker 4: That was thirty six and twenty four is John Matchoda.
Speaker 4: Nick Harris is one game up on him thirty seven
Speaker 4: and twenty three, one game up on Nick Harris. As
Speaker 4: the fans at thirty eight and twenty two, and then
Speaker 4: I'm at the top right now forty three and seventeen.
Speaker 3: Lely damn got a five game lead.
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Speaker 4: Check here about that?
Speaker 3: All right? You sure about that?
Speaker 4: On the line today, Raja in Virginia, Raja, you're on
Speaker 4: talking cowboys.
Speaker 3: How's it going?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 5: As good?
Speaker 3: A's it going? What part of Virginia y'all happy? Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 3: What part of Virginia?
Speaker 4: Springfield?
Speaker 7: So like right in the DC area?
Speaker 4: Okay, so you're not too far from from Washington Commander's country.
Speaker 5: No, No, I'm right in it, right in the middle
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 12: So this going to be spending the day with my
Speaker 12: brother in law and his family.
Speaker 5: All Commander's fans will be the only Cowboys and in
Speaker 5: the building. So I have a serious question for you.
Speaker 5: Who's responsible for the macaroni of cheese at the residence
Speaker 5: that you're gonna be eating at? Who's responsible? That's right?
Speaker 5: Is this really? Honestly? I don't think they ever past
Speaker 5: couple of years i've been I don't think they ever
Speaker 5: had hack and cheese.
Speaker 3: You're going to the wrong house, sir. Not only are
Speaker 3: you the only Cowboys fan.
Speaker 5: But that which is good turkey is always the winner.
Speaker 5: I don't need is going on in this play. I
Speaker 5: love it. I love it.
Speaker 7: Oh Man.
Speaker 4: Well, we appreciate you holding down the fort out there
Speaker 4: in Washington, uh, in Virginia, out there in Washington, Commander's country.
Speaker 4: We're gonna pick all three Thanksgiving games. Of course, the
Speaker 4: Cowboys and Commanders will go last. We've got the Packers
Speaker 4: in the Lions starting things off, Nick Harris, I'll let
Speaker 4: you begin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lions, Lions, big time, John oh.
Speaker 7: Man, Lions.
Speaker 4: They have restored the roar happens.
Speaker 3: You don't like cheese, he doesn't any noodles?
Speaker 5: All right, I'm going Lions.
Speaker 4: Roger I got I'm taking Detroit there as well. Give me,
Speaker 4: give me the lions across the board. Forty nine ers
Speaker 4: at the Seahawks San Francisco at Seattle, Isaiah, Seattle, bounce bag, baby,
Speaker 4: I hope you're right.
Speaker 3: I hope you're right.
Speaker 7: In what world do you live in?
Speaker 5: Bird Land?
Speaker 8: Baby?
Speaker 4: My god?
Speaker 7: This Niners?
Speaker 3: Give me the Niners, bang bang Niner.
Speaker 6: Ye, Nick, I'm gonna take the I'm gonna take the
Speaker 6: Seahawks right lot. But the Seahawks, oh, the home home seven.
Speaker 5: Give it to me.
Speaker 6: I feel like they come out you know what it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they might not have Kenneth Walker though.
Speaker 5: That's okay. We won't have.
Speaker 7: Their brain. It's fine.
Speaker 3: I've got a five game leak turning.
Speaker 5: I don't have a victory coming into play Dallas, trust me.
Speaker 3: Okay, I hope, I hope you're right.
Speaker 5: I am right, I hope you're right. All right?
Speaker 3: Uh, Roger, what do you got?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be Niners gig. Yeah, he's the two
Speaker 5: guys that don't eat cheese.
Speaker 3: Sorry guys, Uh, he didn't say he doesn't eat cheese.
Speaker 3: John said he just doesn't eat noodles. That's all it is,
Speaker 3: mac and cheese.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've never seen it.
Speaker 2: There for Thanksgiving Unfortunately, I've never seen it.
Speaker 4: He's just at the wrong household, that's the problems.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he needs an invite to Dallas.
Speaker 5: Is what it needs to happen.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Cowboys press box.
Speaker 3: There you go. Oh man, best mac and cheese I've
Speaker 3: ever had, all.
Speaker 4: Right, other than yours, Other than yours, yours is Yours
Speaker 4: is better.
Speaker 11: It is better.
Speaker 3: The smoke mac and cheese is better.
Speaker 4: All right, Jaguars and sins Uh, this is a tight
Speaker 4: MATCHUPJ Stroud's been balling. But can he take down Trevor
Speaker 4: Lawrence and the Jags? Roger will start with you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a tough one.
Speaker 5: I must go see Thetroud. He's hot right now. I
Speaker 5: think the Texans went at home taking the Texans.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Texans already got him once. I think they
Speaker 6: get him twice.
Speaker 3: I don't think they get him twice.
Speaker 5: Give me the Jags on.
Speaker 3: The road to bounce back.
Speaker 7: I agree, I'm going Jags on the road. I just
Speaker 7: the CJ. Stroud story is great and I probably should
Speaker 7: go with him. But give me the Jags.
Speaker 3: Jaguar, yes, Duvovo all right?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 4: The Browns at the Broncos. The Broncos speaking of a
Speaker 4: team that's real hot right now. The Browns are seven
Speaker 4: and three currently, they have a better record or above
Speaker 4: the standings at the moment than the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Pretty interesting there.
Speaker 4: Give me, I keep picking against the Browns and they
Speaker 4: come back to bite me. Give me the Browns on
Speaker 4: the road.
Speaker 3: To get the job done. Isaiah Keebler ilves the Browns.
Speaker 2: Another tough one.
Speaker 5: Bronco Country.
Speaker 11: Okay, Nick, I'm gonna take the Browns.
Speaker 3: Taking the Browns. I'm trying to.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to decide between some of these other other games,
Speaker 4: because these other games are kind of interesting. So not Ravens, Chargers, Rams, Cardinals.
Speaker 5: We could do the toilet Bowl here. We can do.
Speaker 3: Patriots and Giants. I think that's what we should do,
Speaker 3: all right. Patriots at the Giants. Oh, I thought you
Speaker 3: already said sorry, sorry, noodle hate right there.
Speaker 6: He looks so upset.
Speaker 5: He did.
Speaker 3: He was just waiting for me.
Speaker 7: Okay, sorry, we're doing this.
Speaker 3: Sorry, John, I'll.
Speaker 5: Let you go here for this.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, John. Patriots at Giants? Who you got there?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 7: That's so bad.
Speaker 3: It is bad.
Speaker 7: Give me the Patriots, I just I mean the veto
Speaker 7: We're not doing this Patriots.
Speaker 4: Giants did beat the Commanders last week.
Speaker 7: Though it says a lot about the commanders.
Speaker 3: It does say a lot about the commanders.
Speaker 6: Nick Man, this is a this is god. This is gross,
Speaker 6: isn't it?
Speaker 7: It's gross?
Speaker 6: Giants?
Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, give me the pats that head of jail.
Speaker 6: I don't know it was giants.
Speaker 5: Rosa, Yeah, I think Patriots get it done. Bill needs
Speaker 5: a way.
Speaker 4: He does need a win, no doubt about it. You
Speaker 4: know who else needs to win? The Dallas Cowboys on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4: It's like a Thanksgiving tradition against Commanders. Eight and two
Speaker 4: all time against Washington. And it's a three twenty five
Speaker 4: kickoff on c b S. Should be a fun one.
Speaker 4: Roger will let you start this one off.
Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna say it with my chest.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be uh, we're gonna win for shoot.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 5: Guest fired.
Speaker 4: Eric Benley becomes a new interim head coach.
Speaker 3: Wow, so you're you're making a couple of tranches there.
Speaker 7: I like it.
Speaker 3: Ye say it with your chest. It's happening very nice.
Speaker 5: Rosa.
Speaker 4: Appreciate you holding down the four out out on the
Speaker 4: East coast. Keep doing the Lord's work out there and
Speaker 4: enjoy your non macaroni and cheese Thanksgiving tomorrow with all
Speaker 4: your your family and friends. Thank you, appreciate you as always.
Speaker 3: There he goes. He said it with his chest. Forty
Speaker 3: to twenty one, Isaiah, I love.
Speaker 5: Magic Johnson, but he's not gonna win this game. Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm going twenty seven to ten Dallas Cowboys twenty seven.
Speaker 5: What if he plays magic.
Speaker 7: When he comes in at quarterback in the second half?
Speaker 7: That changed this at all?
Speaker 4: In your mind?
Speaker 3: I do believe six eight.
Speaker 5: I do believe that Rajah I might have might be
Speaker 5: onto something in terms of run Vera possibly getting fired
Speaker 5: earlier in the season.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would think he has to be pretty high
Speaker 7: in the list of next got season.
Speaker 8: It's like they're going into a long weekend, so you know,
Speaker 8: that's that's when conversations happened.
Speaker 3: Who knows, Maybe he's got an inside track. He's out there,
Speaker 3: he is, he's.
Speaker 10: On the ground.
Speaker 6: There's maybe that was like Josh Harris on the on
Speaker 6: the on the call, making the decision.
Speaker 3: Maybe what do you think?
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, Cowboys, I think they I'm with I'm with Raja.
Speaker 8: I think they get a forty burger. I'm gonna go
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go forty five. I'm gonna go forty five twenty.
Speaker 8: I think it's gonna just gonna be a high scoring
Speaker 8: a lot of a lot of feasting in this game.
Speaker 5: Oh how scores twenty four?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, this offense is.
Speaker 3: Say, put up points. They just can't stop.
Speaker 6: Mean a Veto scored seventeen, We forget about that.
Speaker 5: That means it RN. I think you routed up.
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 5: No, I'm playing.
Speaker 3: That sounded like a Blandard Gilmour, which was somebody's getting beat.
Speaker 5: You give up twenty four points.
Speaker 3: Late in the game.
Speaker 6: I think I think the running game gets beat Ooh yeah,
Speaker 6: but we'll see fair.
Speaker 4: I originally thought it was gonna be a lower scoring
Speaker 4: game as well, but I'm gonna give I'm gonna give
Speaker 4: a forty burger update as well. Give me Cowboys forty
Speaker 4: five twenty finals scour.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they get it done. I'll let John finish it off.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go fifty two.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that would have been fun.
Speaker 7: No, because of Thanksgiving and just the way that they
Speaker 7: play against Washington, I just don't think it'll be quite
Speaker 7: to that level. So I'll go Cowboys thirty one, Washington thirteen.
Speaker 4: There you go, so wins across the board for the
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys. Hope you had fun with us here in
Speaker 4: the short week. We will be back on Monday really quick.
Speaker 8: Me and Nicky Me were doing this yesterday. Six teams
Speaker 8: that have never played the Cowboys on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 6: Can you name them all?
Speaker 5: Real quick?
Speaker 10: Well?
Speaker 6: Lions, but bang, we couldn't figure that out. One out. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so I'm glad we always played exactly.
Speaker 5: Jaguars, Jaguars, the Panthers Nope, no that game.
Speaker 6: The rest of them are AFC teams. I'll give you
Speaker 6: all that.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking Cam Newton game. The rest are NFC.
Speaker 6: AFC, AFC. We got lines and Jaguars.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 6: Steelers play the Steelers quite a bit.
Speaker 8: Cheaps nope, Jets nope, Mmm, Dolphins nope, Browns.
Speaker 3: Nope, Jacks nope.
Speaker 6: We are said the Jacks.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, pat Patriots nope.
Speaker 6: Chargers nope. No, that was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: Browns Nope.
Speaker 8: My god, y'all are going all around it. It's wild
Speaker 8: really yeah. Wow, Bills, you want to just run him down? No,
Speaker 8: we had that a couple of years ago to Texans, Colts, Ravens, Bingles.
Speaker 4: Texans should ahead of the Texans, Colts, Bengals, Ravens and.
Speaker 3: Gosh and then the Lions and the.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Texans, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, Lions, Jaguars. Anyway, there we go, interesting.
Speaker 3: Little Cowboys Ravens on Thanksgiving would be fun.
Speaker 5: That would be really fun.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: That does it for us here on talking Cowboys. Hope
Speaker 4: you enjoy your Thanksgiving holiday, and you've got plenty of
Speaker 4: mac and cheese to enjoy for Isaiah's purposes.
Speaker 3: The disappointment, Yeah, you're upset.
Speaker 5: It's okay.
Speaker 3: I can't believe John. I don't know if you'll ever
Speaker 3: look at John the same ever. Again, It's fine, It's okay.
Speaker 5: John doesn't care strawberry salad.
Speaker 3: That doesn't for us.
Speaker 4: I hope you had as much fun as we did
Speaker 4: for Chris Beam, Isaiah's standbag, John, Nick Carroens, some Kyle
Speaker 4: Yomas saying so long from the Star on Frisco.
Speaker 3: We'll see you on Monday.
Speaker 5: Go Cowboys.
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