WEBVTT - Episode 20: Transformers 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:13.680 Hey, what's up? If the Nation in fernis welcome to 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.200 another episode of NERD. If he said, we are here 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:19.560 and today we're talking about I kind of teased it 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.720 out last week and there are a lot of people 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:24.840 hyped for Transformers, and this was one of the fun 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.880 ones where we why we scraped it up just a 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:30.880 little bt s. We had like a gap between when 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:32.920 our research for the next episodes are up, and I 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.080 was like, let me try and tackle you know, transformers. 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.879 I can research that, and man, there's a lot of transformers. 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:42.159 There's so much Transformers. But we'll get into that. I'm 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.000 if you wa waite and sitting across from me is 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:46.680 Danny Fernandez. Yeah. I like that. You added if your 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.519 nation and Ferns. Fernie was something that I jokingly started 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.200 to do. If you don't follow me on Instagram, follow 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.000 me on Instagram because I make the dumbest videos called 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.960 Rumor Control, which if He has been in and several 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:02.120 other people have been in, where I just I refer 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.720 to everyone as fernees and then tackle a really dumb 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:10.520 rumor but it's stuck, it's stuck behind it. If he 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:15.399 Transformers is something that I kind of didn't really grow 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:20.160 up with as much and actually really enjoyed the film 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:24.280 with Shila b Well, it's what's crazy. I really liked 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.080 I was in high school and it was it was 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.720 like such a big deal in high school, like everyone 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.080 I think it came out in the summertime, and I right, yeah, 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.240 and so I just remember in Megan Fox and it 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.080 was like ha in these cars and like, yeah, well 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.600 it was a banger because it came out my third 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.160 which is Weekend, and no people liked it. I was 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:43.720 the only one who didn't like it. And we will 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:47.200 be able to chronicle, like it's crazy because doing the 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.600 research for this, I chronologically see why I hated it 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.000 so much and we'll get into that. And everything made sense. 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.040 Everything I found out made everything makes so much sense 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.640 to me because it just truly just my wee heart 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:04.280 was always there. But it's funny because we touched on 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.440 Transformers a little bit on our g R G I 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:11.320 Joe episode, and well, it's cool about it is the 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.800 reason because we always know that Hasbro and G I 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.360 Joe they've kind of been hand in hand because they 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:19.280 were under the same brand. But what's crazy is it's 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.600 because they kind of have always been together because in 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:27.600 nineteen seventy four, the Takara Company Limited launched the Microman 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:32.480 in Japan and this was the mold that Hasbro license 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.200 to make g I. Joe's. There are these very articulate 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.560 kind of humanoid figures, and eventually they did a spin 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.880 off called diet Clone, which were like Microman, but they 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.959 turned into everyday objects. Oh these are so cool. I 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:47.400 was gonna say, I'm looking it up right now, so 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.160 like to give people a visual. They do kind of 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:54.799 look like more slender Transformers um with like these chrome 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.920 alien looking heads. As far as Microman, yeah, and actually 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.560 the people who signed the Dia Clone went on to 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:06.320 be the designers from across the anime that had the 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:10.280 mix that turned into fighter jets and was super cool. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.560 And but yeah, it's it's crazy because it goes hand 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:15.400 in hand. And I want to I'm gonna touch on 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.480 this because a good friend of ours row Com touched 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:19.880 on He was like, oh man, I want to be 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.240 in the Transformers episode. But we mentioned molds, and molds 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.160 are very very important. I've gotten more into toys, so 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.520 my just to say, wait, I thought you called them 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.600 action figures, Well yeah, they are action figures. But these 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:36.040 I'm talking about toys, Vinyl toys and they and there's 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.960 a whole huge community about it. And you know how 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.840 they'll sell the blanks of the toys. Some you have 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:46.480 to be in to paint them. Like no regular Joe 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.840 off the street can really paint the toys and sell 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.920 them because then you'll then the creator of the blank 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.640 will be like, whoa, you're painting over Like I made 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.640 it blank on purpose. And this is all stuff that 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.120 we're going to get into Vinyl way and all that. 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.400 That's when we're bringing you on Rocom, you and Kuang, 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.280 because that's what they do. Rocom just launched a toy 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.800 which he just premiered, the one that I got, the 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.640 one off because I support the Kickstar, support your friends Kickstars. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:18.799 But back to the Diacloge. Hasbro bought the molds from 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.719 Takara and then from there they were able to create 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.200 g I Joe. And with the hit, they went and 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:29.440 grab the diaclones to make the Transformers. And what was 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.479 cool was just like g I Joe, they wanted to 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:36.719 hire people to make the background stories of these toys. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:41.320 And in around that time, Jim Shooter, who was Marvel's 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.840 ninth editor in chief, and that's a whole lot of 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:45.520 drama which I was reading then I was like, oh 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.600 my gosh, we're gonna have to do an episode on this. 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.520 He was a controversial editor in chief because he was 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.160 such a hard ass. That's all. That's the only way 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:54.560 I know how to say it. He was a hard 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.880 ass and he had like very strict rules, and creators 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.400 felt like he was he was kind of ramp in 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.119 their style. But he wasn't around when they was okay, 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:07.520 because remember our Image Comics episode when all those artists 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.800 pieced out. Was he after that? He was gone by then, 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.120 but I'm sure so she probably contributed to that feeling 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.640 there because he after that went on to make Valiant 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:21.200 Comics and then uh And so it was between Jim 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.320 Shooter and Dennis O'Neill who wrote Spider Man and Doctor Strange, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.760 and they're hired by Hasbro to create like the backstories 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.400 for all the Transformers. As a matter of fact, Dennis 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.840 O'Neill is the one who made the name Optimus Prime. 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.320 That was him, but the rest were by Bob Boudinski, 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.760 who came on board and basically created most of the 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.880 Transformers characters and went on to write the comics for Marvel, 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.280 which was crazy because the first run of Transformers uh 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.839 comics were Marvel Cannon like they went to the strange lands. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.960 Nick Fury got involved. That was wild. Does that mean 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.479 that they could show up again? I hope? So you know, 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.640 now that everything's all coming together, we got like our 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.320 X Men, Fox and Disney merged like you know, transformed 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:11.159 Transformers in there the Shark when it's like um because 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.080 you know, like I always say that poster, that Marvel 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.680 poster could not get more packed. They didn't even have 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.719 my man Hawkeye on there because they were like, it's 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.920 which is too much? We can only have the top ted. Yeah, 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.279 no it was. It was great and it was wild, 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.760 and I love that. That is a piece that technically 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:30.039 the Transformers are Marvel Cannons. Wait before we move on those, 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.680 So did the Transformers you're saying, we're essentially just like 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.880 G I J and teenage Mutant NA Turtles. They brought 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.039 these guys on so that they could create stories, so 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.080 they would sell the toys. Yeah, exactly, just to drive 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.159 home which you saying, Yes, this is another thing that 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.480 people love that was only created to sell toys, which 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.359 but it's cool. What's cool about Transformers is as it grows, 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.040 there is a nice cannon that builds around it. But 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.479 in the end, I think that is important to understand 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:01.400 that these things that people have ownership and attack other 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:06.479 people are are these stories that were created. I mean 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:12.600 it's turned in our exactly, So put put your laser 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.160 gats down and stop attacking people. Just trying to make 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.000 this thing that was once created just to sell toys 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.600 good for another generation. I feel like this is something 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.920 we're gonna touch on a lot, because every day it 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.080 feels like there's another story that's about that. But we're 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.440 gonna jump to the TV series because the TV series 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.360 is also cool. Everything is so cool. We'll get to this. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.160 But I came in during Beast Wars and I was 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.600 a huge Transformers boy. You'll and we'll get to this. 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.240 And that's why I didn't like the first movie. This 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:47.080 reignite this. Doing the research for this reignited my all 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:51.760 spark and I am now about Transformers again. I am 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.000 so back on board. And that's why I like this podcast. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.200 Is the fun thing about revisiting the things that we 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.880 used to really be into a maybe not so much 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.280 in finding new things like I've been. I've still been 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:08.000 watching all of Twilight Zone from the first. Yeah, it's 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:12.040 been fun just dumping into all these different fun things. Okay, 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.080 I'm gonna go and watch Trent because I think the 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.480 nice thing about you and I is we complement each other. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:18.480 So like whereas Twilight Zone, I'm like, this is my 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.880 bread and butter. I could talk about this all day 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.960 and then you like went and started watching it, and 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.640 so now this is your bread and butter. Like you 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.880 know way more about Transformers than I do, and now 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:30.760 I can go home and start watching it. Yeah, you 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.319 can skip this, you can. You can really jump all 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.280 the way to the I d w com What about 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.520 you don't want me to watch wars Wars. You can 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.120 get in there, but watch like one or two episodes. 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.559 I'm sure it doesn't hold up, is okay? Okay, okay. 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:47.480 So in September sevente the first episode of Transformers the 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.080 TV series air and it's produced by Sunbo and Marvel Productions. 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:53.640 I wanted to take a second to look at the 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:58.760 three top credited writers on IMDb because and by top credit, 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.640 they just have the most episodes under the belt, because 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.240 it's funny when we visit these properties, like when we 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.200 did the Nickelodeon and we found that Neil Brennan was 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.360 all that. These guys ended up doing a lot of 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.720 things we does. So David Wise, who wrote fifteen episodes, Uh, 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.160 he went on to write for Batman, the animated series, 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:21.600 Wildcats and the Mighty Ducks animated series, which was so dope. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.560 I feel like it didn't get its Just do they 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:27.840 gave out the pucks at McDonald's. I wanted. Here's the thing, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.520 my parents never let me get into roller hockey because 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:34.040 you know, uh, there's no roller hockey leagues Incompton. Who cares. 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:35.960 We should have found it. We should have drove to 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.160 the Orange County to get Who wouldn't know. I could 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:42.280 have been the new Wayne Gretzky or or whoever that 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:49.120 translates the same but hockey, but you know, kind of uh. 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.920 And then the next up is Donald F. Glutt, who 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.000 he wrote twelve episodes, and he went on to write 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.560 Duck Tails and X Men, and then Booth, who was 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:02.160 the third but in my heart, he knocked it out 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.719 the park. He went on. Doug Booth went on to 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.680 write Mighty Max which oh man, I got another angry 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.800 at my parents store for that. So when I went 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:14.680 to remember Mighty Max, you might I'll Mighty Max was 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:20.680 the boy branded toy for Polly Pockets, so little girls 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:25.160 and the little boys got Mighty Max. And so I 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.680 had a Mighty Max. Uh. And I brought it to 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:30.319 my dad at Toys and resumes, like, okay, we will 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.840 get this for you, and he uh and he we 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.440 went to the the cash register. He got all the 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:40.040 things he got and then I went through the bag 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:41.800 because I was excited to play with and I couldn't 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.200 find it. And we're walking down. I was like, Dad, Daddy, 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.360 she forgot. She forgot to put in the Mighty Max. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.360 He was like, oh, it's okay, and it's like so 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.400 he did the Yeah, he did the old parents switchero 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.640 where he took it to the register and this is 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:56.240 why I have trust issues. But yeah, so Mighty Max 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.000 and then my faith. I think I might have touched 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.520 on this on t m NT. But street Sharks baby, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:06.520 he wrote on street Sharks don't at me? Do you 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:11.280 feel like sharks is why you are into such like 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:15.839 the weightlifting buff? Oh yeah, life, Oh I definitely buff 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:19.960 like everything. It's funny because I find like Street Sharks, 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.520 rocket Power and all this stuff is made for California 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.680 little boys, which I was so I was all about like, 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:31.559 oh they roller blade, don't skateboard. Oh they like burger. Meanwhile, me, 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.680 I'm very like sexually confused because it's like, why does 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:38.079 the Shark have pets? Like the sharks should not have 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:42.760 a twelve pack. Danny is very confused. Big shout out 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.520 to Street Sharks because they did have representation because they 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.839 brought in the black character and he was an orca, 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.320 which is the blackest fish. As a matter of fact, 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.000 they named a movie black Fish about orcas, and I 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.679 was like, I get it, and I'm here for it. 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.439 Have you ever seen Street Shark, cause play like I 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.240 need to see that. I'm gonna it. Oh my gosh, 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.400 if you find it, keep it away from let's do it. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.280 I want to do. Oh there is Okay, I'm gonna 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.800 tweet out this photo once this episode drops. But then 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.240 he also did the Spider Man animated series, which was 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:17.600 Oh no, I'm sorry, look at this. That's comfortable. It 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:22.640 is way too sexy. Okay, it should be. It is 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.480 a very sexy ass Shark and oh his navel too. Okay, 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:31.120 let's move on. And then he also did the nine G. I. 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.839 Joe reboot. But basically, in the TV series, the auto 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:35.800 Bots are looking for new energy sources and they end 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:40.199 up crash landing as the Decepticons attacked. And then uh, basically, 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:44.360 Marvel interpreted the Autobots as destroying a rogue asteroid approaching 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.480 Cybertron and shock Wave loyal to the Megatron and the 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:51.239 TV series and keeping Cybertron in a stalemate during his absence, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.600 but in the comic books, he attempts to take command 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:57.840 of the Decepticons. The TV series would also differ widely. Basically, yeah, 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.560 the TV series was a hit, I mean came out. 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:05.559 It dropped in September four, and then by August two 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:10.360 years later, in Transforms, the movie hits theater and it's 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.360 written by Ron Friedman, directed by Nielsen Shin. And yeah, 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.520 this one was wild because we talked about this in G. I. Joe. 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.200 Because this is the reason that they don't kill Duke, 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:24.640 because Optimist Primes gets bodied in this within like the 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.400 first act. It's not like at the end he's like, oh, 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.360 it's cool they body him. In the movie just moves 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.800 on without him. But wait, didn't it not do so well? 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:35.960 Because wasn't that and didn't we say that like that 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.439 affected GI their g I Joe property in the movie? Yeah, 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:41.680 I believe so yeah, let me, I'll get the exam. 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:46.680 Dan our producer is saying, yes, yeah, he had to 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.440 listen to our episode multiple times, and editors all our 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.920 episodes multiple time. Can I just say before we move 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.800 on that I created a chronic illness group. I don't 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:56.520 know if everyone knows about me, but I have an 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.160 autoimmune disorder, and so we did a walk to raise 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:03.600 money and we called ourselves the Autoimmune Bots. Oh my gosh, 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.200 that is hilariouson I love it, Little known Fernie back. Yeah, 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.360 and just to confirm what you said earlier, you're right. 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.720 The budget was six million and it made five point 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.040 eight million. It didn't even make its money back. So yeah, 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.440 it was a huge flop. It made kids very sad, 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.120 and uh, I think that's why it pieced out for 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.840 a bit. But the soundtrack was banging. Okay, we got 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.880 my man uh stand Bush coming with You got the touch, 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:35.600 you got the power. Once you hear it, you'll never 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.720 stop hearing it. And Also they threw weird al Yankovitz 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.360 dare to be Stupid on it, which which I'm like, 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.560 all right, I'm down for any soundtrack. So at least 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.280 we got that. But this period that we're talking about 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.720 right now has been coined by fans and creators alike 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:55.840 as Generation one of the Transformers and Generation two begins 0:14:55.880 --> 0:15:00.560 from til about and it started off the the toys 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.520 during generation to start off as pretty much a reissue 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.320 of the Generation one toys but just with new color schemes. 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:14.560 But then September happens and Beast Wars premiers. Now little 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.520 known fact this is the Transformers. I knew this was 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:22.040 my first experience with Transformers were the beast Wars, so 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.240 so I actually started with Beast Wars and had to 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.600 like learn about the Transformers later and figure out what 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.400 they had to do. But the series featured uh, they 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:35.800 didn't have Auto Autobots and Decepticons. They had the Maximals 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.800 and Predacons. Yeah, descendants of the Autobots and Decepticons. And 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:44.240 this is this is where the funniness of a story 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.680 created to sell toys versus like you know, comic book 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:52.000 creators and future creators making legitimate stories and having to 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.240 retcon because it was apparently it was set in the 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:59.520 future of the original Transformers continuity, but then eventually it 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.120 was revered yield that they had traveled back in time 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.720 before the series began and we're actually on prehistoric Earth 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.000 and that's why they turned in the dinosaurs. I feel 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:12.520 like that does make sense because the same way Transformers 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:17.000 came to Earth and picked cars to turn into, the 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.280 Beast Wars did the same with animals, and they were 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.520 all prehistoric. So for it to be set in the 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.880 future would have been weird, or it could have been 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.640 that what was it the time Traveler when the future 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:28.600 goes so far in the future and then it turns 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:32.760 prehistoric again. That has stuck with me for my whole life. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:34.640 So do you remember what you watched it on? Like? 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:39.320 That was Fox? Fox Kids? Yeah, and Fox Kids kind 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.440 of had the lock on the Transformers brand for a 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.280 bit because in September eight of two thousand one, the 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:48.920 Transformers Robots and Disguise launches, which was basically a Transformers anime. 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:53.360 So this after Beast Wars, Transformers has been anime and 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.880 I think that has been slept on fact by mostly 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:01.320 me because from so This was a series that was 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:05.960 produced in Japan and came out and was dubbed out here. 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.879 It started in two thousand one and it ran for 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:13.560 thirty nine episodes on Fox Kids and outside of the Page. 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.800 Because all during this time, you know, the Transformers comics 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.400 was kind of just stagnant. After kind of living with Marvel. 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.879 In December two thousand one, dream Wave Productions ended up 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.879 acquiring the Transformers licensing and then they created their own universe, 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.600 adapting and borrowed a lot of things and also added 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.720 some stuff, like they had like a whole bit of 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.920 all Transformers not believing in the existence of Primus, which 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:40.760 was actually on a Transformers Generation one number five original 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:45.280 sin which was released in May two thousand four. And uh, 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.680 the corruption in Cybertronian government that was first led by 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:53.080 Megatron to begin the roar was dropped in Transformers Generation 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.639 one number ten, two thousand four. Uh, the Root of 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.040 All Evil. So if you didn't think this podcast was 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:03.359 nearly enough, now we're quoting actual. This is so weird 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.800 to me because, like I said, I remember it vaguely, 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.560 but I didn't really grow up with it too much. 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.080 And I'm while you were talking, I was looking up, 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.240 like what else was on Fox Kids at that time? 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.520 And it was all things that I watched. It was 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.560 Batman animated series, Bobby's World, which I was addicted to 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:22.320 in the Cat, goose Bumps, which I read and watched 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.480 um and owned some of the VHS tapes Mighty morphin 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.119 Power Rangers, the tick like where where on Earth is 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:33.000 Carmen San Diego? Um? And uh I didn't know that 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:37.600 was different than where um? Anyways, uh so I am 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.800 I'm confused of during that hour that it that it aired. 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:44.560 My parents like turned off the TV. They're like, go outside, 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.879 go outside. Well, it also had that like weird CG animation. 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:53.159 You probably were like the animated beast Wars was the 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.840 was CG animated? And I looked at some episodes recently 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:01.239 and it that CJ doesn't Oh I see what you mean? 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:08.720 Oh yeah no, I definitely turned this out. It looked okay, yeah, 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.119 definitely this And I did watch reboot. I loved Reboots, 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:18.399 but see what you mean? Okay, the animation, wow do 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.080 people really enjoy? Yeah? Also, I remember I had the 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:25.000 Beast Wars toys that would combine into one big Transformers 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:30.159 and I remember how just kind of like gross in 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.320 macab it would look because it was like this machine 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:38.840 animal like meshed together to make this mega machine animal. 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:42.080 And I think he had like a rhino. It was okay. Actually, 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.920 now that I'm looking at some of the characters, I remember, yeah, this, 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.679 but it was like a flash in the pan. Really, 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.320 but this was the start of, like I feel like, 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.679 the basis of, for lack of a better way of 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:58.320 describing it, and in risk of infuriating some of the 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:02.880 O G fans, the good A Transformer arcs because dream 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.480 Waves started off and then we had a new show. 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:15.679 But we'll talk about all that after the break and 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:21.080 welcome back everyone, all right, just up top. So Danny 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.000 had something important to run off and do, so I 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:30.280 went to the Dan archives and got another Dan, Dan Goodman, 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.080 who you may not have heard yet. I mean, I 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:39.040 think you might have said a thing or two my 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.600 voice and you try to keep it very very edited out, 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.800 you know. But he is the editor and producer of 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:48.520 They're Difficent, and he's popping in for a bit. If 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:49.800 it was a pleasure to be here, Thank you for 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:53.399 having me, Thank you for doing it. You know, uh, 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.000 you know, it's it's good to have someone who can 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.960 step up when I am late yet again pushing into 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:03.600 people's other schedules, and uh, hey it is It is 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:06.000 no problem at all. I happened to love Transformers, so 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.280 it's always happy to be in the rule. Yeah. Yeah, 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.560 you are already, you know, piping in with a few 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.560 hot takes. Yeah. Uh, do you want to give people 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:15.720 a quick rundown of who you are and what you 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:18.560 do outside of what I just said? Sure? Hello, everybody. 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.000 My name is Dan Dan Goodman. I'm the producer and 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:23.399 editor of Nerdificence. I also edited a lot of the 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:25.200 shows on the How Stuff Works Network, so you probably 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:27.680 heard my handywork on some of the other shows. I'm 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:31.200 a longtime nerd. My specialties are definitely in the video 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:34.439 game department. Um. You may call me Mr Steel your aerial. 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:36.280 If you catch me on the Rocket League fields, I 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.399 will take you down. Um. But than other that, I 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:41.399 am proud to be part of the network, proud to 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:44.359 be part of the show, and happy to add my 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:48.160 own voice on nerdy stuff whenever it is needed. Oh nice, Well, 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:51.159 we when we left off, we just touched on the 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:57.440 Robots and Disguise franchise, which was the anime bad classic. Yeah, 0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.920 that was in two thousand one, and dream Way pick 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.679 it up in two thousand one as well. You know, 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:05.920 real quick, embarrassing story. Just the phrase the first time 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:07.760 I heard and this is this is this attributes to 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.520 my classic mishearing of lyrics throughout my entire life. But 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:12.360 when I heard robots in disguise for the first time, 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:14.040 I thought they were I thought it was robots in 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:17.320 the skies, like flying robots. I was like, yeah, some 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:19.040 of them are playing with robots and disguise. You know 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:22.680