WEBVTT - Shocking Study Will Make You Reconsider Your Next Alcoholic Beverage 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it is Tuesday, June ninth, and Americans are

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<v Speaker 1>drinking at the lowest rate ever recorded. And after you

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<v Speaker 1>hear this episode, that number is probably going to go

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<v Speaker 1>down even more. And with that, welcome to this episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Amy and TJ. Good Lord, have mercy. All the

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<v Speaker 1>studies have been going this way. You almost roll your eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you. Robe Sometimes here's another study that says coffee's

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<v Speaker 1>good for your coffee's bad, red wine is good, but

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<v Speaker 1>only this much. Probably get all these random studies. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to us. This is not a random study. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a big deal study and you need to listen

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<v Speaker 1>because robes, they are telling us we need to be

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<v Speaker 1>drinking even less.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is I hate to use the word sobering,

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<v Speaker 2>but this has been a sobering review of this new study.

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<v Speaker 3>And look, they looked exclusively here.

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<v Speaker 2>At US Americans, at the United States, and they looked

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<v Speaker 2>at the relationship between having one drink a day and

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<v Speaker 2>your life expectancy. When you look at what these researchers

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<v Speaker 2>found to be true, how many people have two drinks

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<v Speaker 2>a day? That was the recommendation up until just a

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<v Speaker 2>short while ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Men, you can have two drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>A day, and everybody knows this, and women can have

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<v Speaker 1>one drink a day. This has been standard. Everybody understands this.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows this. They've even been some suggestions over the

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<v Speaker 1>past several years, Robes even that you know what, even

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<v Speaker 1>light drinking, have some red wine, it's good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people still have that in their minds, Robes. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a stunning result from a legit organization. Some controversy

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<v Speaker 1>behind it, and Robes, this one has to be paid

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<v Speaker 1>attention to. But it does go in line with where

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<v Speaker 1>the research has been going for several several years.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is any amount of alcohol is dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Any drop period, healthy period, and.

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<v Speaker 2>One drink a day increases your risk of premature death period.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have two drinks a day, that risk jumps

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<v Speaker 2>so significantly.

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<v Speaker 3>It shocked the heck out of me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's shocking, and it's coming from a study we are

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<v Speaker 1>getting that was just published yesterday Journal of Studies on

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<v Speaker 1>Alcohol and Drugs. That was the name of the journal

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<v Speaker 1>where it came out. But this particular study is called

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<v Speaker 1>the Alcohol Intake and Health Study, and it was commissioned

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<v Speaker 1>by the Biden administration. So Ropes to pick up there.

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<v Speaker 1>This is relevant to the story about where these studies

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<v Speaker 1>come from in the first place. So a little background here,

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<v Speaker 1>just brief background, just get you caught up to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know what we're talking about here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so one of two studies commissioned by the Biden administration, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>studying the impact of alcohol. They were being made in

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<v Speaker 2>an attempt to rewrite new dietary guidelines, which we just.

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<v Speaker 3>Got from the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll explain how all of this plays into our new guidelines,

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<v Speaker 2>the veguesst guidelines, the Vegas guidelines. Ever, but there is

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<v Speaker 2>a suggestion there's a reason why they're so vague the result.

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<v Speaker 3>It involves money.

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<v Speaker 2>The results of this study, though, did not go in

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<v Speaker 2>line with what the alcohol industry was being for, and

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<v Speaker 2>so the allegation is that the Trump administration didn't include

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<v Speaker 2>these new findings in their health guidelines because there was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of money at stake via the alcohol industry.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, the study we're talking about had had been

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<v Speaker 1>going on for some time, and some preliminary results came

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<v Speaker 1>out last year or were being floated around not publicly, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, the alcohol industry got wind of this. So

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<v Speaker 1>the lobbying starts behind the scenes. And sure enough, Robes.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier this year, remember they gave us the reverse pyramid, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they gave new health guidelines and a part of that

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<v Speaker 1>was guidelines having to do with alcohol consumption. So we

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<v Speaker 1>were waiting on an update from Doc Doz. Right here

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<v Speaker 1>he is, he's gonna tell us this is what you

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<v Speaker 1>should eat now. So tell us also what we should

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<v Speaker 1>drink now. And he told us Robes, it is two

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<v Speaker 1>drinks a day, okay for guys, one drink a day

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<v Speaker 1>okay for women. He didn't get into the numbers, no, he.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, these new guidelines set by the Trump of

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<v Speaker 2>industry actually took away the numbers, the numbers that we

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<v Speaker 2>just talked about that we were also familiar with. I

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<v Speaker 2>think most women know that one drink a day, or

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a man, two drinks a day is what

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<v Speaker 2>is considered safe. Ish, I guess maybe, but that was

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<v Speaker 2>basically the limit. That's what you shouldn't drink more than

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<v Speaker 2>now the limit is hey, just you know, drinking less

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<v Speaker 2>is better. That's that is the guideline from the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is I think we all understand that. But

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<v Speaker 1>so many in the medical field, Robes, we're saying, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to give people more than that, to give

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<v Speaker 1>them guidance for how they should behave. Drinking less for

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<v Speaker 1>TJ is different than leading drinking less for Robock. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>drinking less for another couple is different from the Robot

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<v Speaker 1>Holmes house. Correct, That was what the argument was at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, Doctor Oz. Even then, this was the funny

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<v Speaker 1>part of it, Robes. He said, well, there are benefits

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<v Speaker 1>the alcohol, social benefits, and it's healthy to get out

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<v Speaker 1>and be around people more. That was actually what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was describing liquid courage and medicating I guess

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<v Speaker 2>against social anxiety. That doesn't seem to be good enough

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<v Speaker 2>or a good enough reason. When you look at these

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<v Speaker 2>numbers and you increase risk of prematurely dying, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about from alcohol related disease and even injury they

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<v Speaker 2>include in that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, all of this is related to directly attributable

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<v Speaker 1>to something you did with alcohol. So this is another

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<v Speaker 1>reason Robes to study with such a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so if you have one drink a day, you

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<v Speaker 2>increase your risk for premature premature death one in one

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<v Speaker 2>thousand people.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, now what does that end up being the percent?

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<v Speaker 1>You hear that and go, okay, big deal. So if

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<v Speaker 1>someone if doesn't drink at all, and then there's another

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<v Speaker 1>person who has just one drink a day, you are

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<v Speaker 1>still at an increased risk. But that risk only shows

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<v Speaker 1>up in one in one thousand people. That doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot. Good robes the next.

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<v Speaker 2>One here, So yes, that one. I'm like, all right, fine, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think do you think of it? Okay, how many

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<v Speaker 2>people say they might average two drinks a day. I

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<v Speaker 2>would be willing to guess those who drink that's a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty fair standard number. Well, if you have two drinks

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<v Speaker 2>a day, that risk jumps dramatically for premature death. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about one in twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>What I thought I was reading it wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>So did I.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot believe that a difference of one drink a

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<v Speaker 1>day that you make and you go from the risk

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<v Speaker 1>of premature death from one in one thousand to one

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a high risk.

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<v Speaker 1>Ropes that will make you reconsider what you have during

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<v Speaker 1>the next NBA Finals game. Ropes that is, I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>believe that number.

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<v Speaker 2>The marijuana industry just did a collective leap.

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<v Speaker 3>Woo high five. Not that there aren't risks that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure we'll find.

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<v Speaker 2>Out all about those as that becomes more studied, as

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<v Speaker 2>it becomes more heavily consumed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not always the joke.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a trade off.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard of anybody dying of weed.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I know that is true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a joke, but still if you get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but California sober may become just the new thing, New.

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<v Speaker 1>York sober, Arkansas sober, Louisiana. So that's all get on

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<v Speaker 1>board with this. This stut Robes, folks, we can't say

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<v Speaker 1>that enough. One drink making a difference of having two

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<v Speaker 1>a day versus one a day, and your risk of

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<v Speaker 1>dying directly because of alcohol jumps from one in a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand to one in twenty five. Robes, that is the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest signal that we should all stop drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>I got chills from head to joe seeing that. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>if you are at risk for cancer, if you are

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<v Speaker 2>a cancer survivor, and if you are a woman and

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<v Speaker 2>you had breast cancer, I mean they actually specify this.

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<v Speaker 3>You should not be drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know my doctors all told me as a

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<v Speaker 2>breast cancer survivor once I was diagnosed to limit my alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>I have in periods. I have, certainly more recently. But

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<v Speaker 2>when I read something like this, why the hell are

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<v Speaker 2>we putting poison in our bodies so we can feel

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<v Speaker 2>a little looser at night, so we can relax a

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<v Speaker 2>little more, so we can feel more comfortable around other folks. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there's enjoyment, but this certainly makes I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of us who are now reading this for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time even become more intentional than we were before.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really stunning. And look, we enjoy our drinks,

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<v Speaker 1>we absolutely do, but we have cut back, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been happening past a couple of years. More and more

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<v Speaker 1>things come out, more and more studies zero. There is

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<v Speaker 1>zero health benefit to drinking alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the only claim was that it can. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>even doctor Oz pointed this out. Besides the social aspects,

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<v Speaker 2>there are studies that have shown that there is a

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<v Speaker 2>benefit to heart health if you are a moderate drinker,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning one to two drinks a day. However, the point

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<v Speaker 2>being any benefit you get, which I believe is actually

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<v Speaker 2>provable to your heart health, it is offset by your

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<v Speaker 2>risk of cancer and other alcohol related diseases that far

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<v Speaker 2>outweighs any benefit you might get in your heart health.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're gonna die early with a good heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, exactly, awesome, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>This is that this one is pretty studying. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about competing studies. We'll get into here a seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>As we talk about this, how many drinks, it goes

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth. I'm using the official CDC reference here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that's another part of the confusion. You

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<v Speaker 1>tell people, hey, how many drinks are safe, They'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you two for men and one for yeah, and then well,

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<v Speaker 1>how many drinks is two drinks? I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 1>everybody can clearly define what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and when you really think about this, obviously, every

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<v Speaker 2>time I have had a glass of wine and the

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant or the a lot of it is at the

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<v Speaker 2>airport lounge will ask you do you want five ounces

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<v Speaker 2>or nine ounces?

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<v Speaker 3>And I laugh, I'm like, duh, I want nine ounces.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you look at a five ounce poor, especially

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<v Speaker 2>any wine drinker out there, it is I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 2>half at least half of what you pour yourself that

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<v Speaker 2>you count for one drink. It is five ounces of

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<v Speaker 2>wine twelve ounces of beer. That's fairly standards. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>a can of beer basically, or a bottle of beer

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<v Speaker 2>and then one point five ounces of hard liquor.

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<v Speaker 3>But we've talked about this.

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<v Speaker 2>If you drink a margarita, you are drinking way more

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<v Speaker 2>than one point five ounces of liquor because that's just

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<v Speaker 2>the tequila. Correct, Then you've got the quantro or the

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<v Speaker 2>triple sack or whatever else you.

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<v Speaker 3>Put in there.

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<v Speaker 2>So mixed drinks, especially cocktails, end up being more like

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<v Speaker 2>two drinks, maybe even three drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say that most people at home I was

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<v Speaker 1>about to say women, but people at home, when they

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<v Speaker 1>pour their glass of wine at home, is it usually

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<v Speaker 1>a nine ounce pore?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I would think five.

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<v Speaker 3>It's definitely not five.

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<v Speaker 2>If I had to guess, I should actually just pour

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<v Speaker 2>what I think, because I actually you know what I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I have big glasses of wine that feel fun if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna just if I don't care. But I have

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<v Speaker 2>very small glasses of wine that almost are like for

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<v Speaker 2>a dessert wine.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is probably a five ounce po.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember when I joked and said I'm pouring a

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<v Speaker 2>second glass, but I swear it was only five ounces.

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<v Speaker 3>So but I always try, like they say, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to lose weight, buy smaller plates.

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<v Speaker 2>So I actually used that with some wine glasses I

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<v Speaker 2>bought so that I would only pour myself five ounces,

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<v Speaker 2>because yes, it's very easy. Yes, I know, if I

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<v Speaker 2>use my smaller wine glasses, I'm pouring myself a five

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<v Speaker 2>minut five ounce poar.

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<v Speaker 1>We've changed some habits to where we actually use a

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<v Speaker 1>shot glass, yes, to measure the drink makes a difference

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<v Speaker 1>versus just pouring in there. I know that sounds small.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds but all those little things wrote robes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You start getting into habits and the next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're only drinking on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm only drinking on game weekends, and now I'm only

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<v Speaker 1>drinking on very special occasions. Roads is not a bad

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<v Speaker 1>thing for all of us to cut back on.

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<v Speaker 3>Drinking, not at all. And you know, my brother had

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<v Speaker 3>a great plan.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a physic and he is always trying to spread

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<v Speaker 2>the wealth of information that he's amassed over his years

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<v Speaker 2>in practice. But yes, he is somebody who drinks on

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend, but really, aside from special events, does not

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<v Speaker 2>drink Monday through Thursday or Sunday through Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe is how he rolls and Rome.

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<v Speaker 1>I just the industry. Now, we talked about it at

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<v Speaker 1>the top, around the top talking about we're at a

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<v Speaker 1>record low for the number of Americans that drink that

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<v Speaker 1>numbers at fifty four percent. We talk about half, just

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<v Speaker 1>half of Americans consume alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that's remarkable. And by the way, I couldn't believe this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is according to Gallops, so it's legit. Literally in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two, we're talking four years ago that rate

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<v Speaker 2>was sixty seven percent.

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<v Speaker 3>We're now at fifty four percent and dropping. That's remarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>Dropping. You know what's going up? Weed sales and what

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<v Speaker 1>was the one of the weed and few We call

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<v Speaker 1>it weed water, but it's.

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<v Speaker 3>DHC infused water as an alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>If a lot of people, it really is about having

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<v Speaker 2>a sensory memory or just having a glass with ice

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<v Speaker 2>in your hand, maybe in a wine glass or something.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, if you want to get a little buzz

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<v Speaker 3>or feel a little you know, relaxed.

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<v Speaker 2>THHC drinks are an alternative to alcohol, and they're rising

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<v Speaker 2>crazily in popularity.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep them in stocks these days, so freak feel go

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<v Speaker 1>in that direction. Robes younger for your daughter, your oldest

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<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of her friends. They go out. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not looking for alcohol, No, which is expensive and dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know, and I'm not promoting here weed gummies,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah you can for I don't know what it

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<v Speaker 2>ends up being three bucks for one gummy. You can

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<v Speaker 2>spend your night feeling a little loose, a little happy,

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<v Speaker 2>drink some soda water, and you wake up feeling great

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<v Speaker 2>the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, we are we are going to get zero alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>sponsorships on the show. We're consumers, but we're also folks

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<v Speaker 1>health conscious and we know as what we run. We

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<v Speaker 1>are keto, we cut back, are, we pay attention to

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<v Speaker 1>our sleep. All these things we do for health, and

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<v Speaker 1>this one thing we don't necessarily let go of. But

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<v Speaker 1>stay here. This was one major study that came out,

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<v Speaker 1>just came out yesterday. It wasn't necessarily supposed to. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>explain how this one came out in the first place,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll explain the other competing study, the one that

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<v Speaker 1>actually says go ahead, drink, just drink less. Stay here,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, folks will continue here on Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Put the drink down. Put it down, folks, pick up

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<v Speaker 1>a joint. That is what a new study say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they left out joint. It left out the joint part,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was implied. No, it was not what the

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<v Speaker 1>new study we are discussing here that is telling us, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no safe level of alcohol consumption. It is

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<v Speaker 1>actually putting some stacker numbers in front of us that

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<v Speaker 1>your risk of dying from something alcohol related prematurely goes

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<v Speaker 1>up significantly if you go from drinking one drink a

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<v Speaker 1>day to two drinks a day. This is incredible. With Robes,

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<v Speaker 1>this study we were talking about was supposed to come

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<v Speaker 1>out along with all the guidelines that the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 1>put out in I think it was January of this year,

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<v Speaker 1>February of this year. Okay, it was supposed to go

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<v Speaker 1>with that, But we are just getting it now, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily a leak, Robes, but it's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>an authorized release, if you will. I don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>right way to put this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, I mean it was released despite the fact.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, a government alcohol study that was published

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<v Speaker 2>finally came out, but the one that the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 2>relied on said something very very different.

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<v Speaker 1>It was said they said very different, and Robes. They

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<v Speaker 1>also the folks that said it were a big part

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<v Speaker 1>of the controversy. Several of the people who were a

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<v Speaker 1>part of this other panel for this other study have

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<v Speaker 1>connections to.

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<v Speaker 2>The alcohol industry nations, they had a financial incentive for Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you could argue this particular study, this one was from

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<v Speaker 2>a panel appointed by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering,

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<v Speaker 2>and Medicine, and their report came to the opposite conclusion truly,

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<v Speaker 2>of the one we just mentioned, the one that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was just released.

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<v Speaker 2>It suggested that moderate drinking, and we're talking about again,

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<v Speaker 2>those two drinks a day for.

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<v Speaker 3>Men one for women was healthier, healthier, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Than not drinking at all. However, it did make the

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<v Speaker 2>asterisk It noted moderate drinking was also linked to a

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<v Speaker 2>higher breast cancer risk. That's the only asterisk that one had.

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<v Speaker 1>That that is very difficult to You know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need science, I don't need a backup scientist. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need the other side. I need to refute. That

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<v Speaker 1>just sounds silly.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You're telling me I can drink and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be than if I didn't drink. That just doesn't sound right.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't I mean, it just flies in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Face of common sense, and so they try to make

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<v Speaker 1>that argument that you're almost discredited robes as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>that comes out. Yes, So that's why these two studies

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<v Speaker 1>competing studies, if you will. But a lot of folkses

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<v Speaker 1>are dismissive of that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and this new report that came out. A former

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<v Speaker 2>government official, his name is Robert M. Vincent, said he

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<v Speaker 2>believes he was actually fired from his position because the

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<v Speaker 2>report that we just talked about, this one that absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>I believe will change your alcohol habits if you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>already changed them, based on information we've been hearing. But

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<v Speaker 2>he believed that he lost his job because he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>this out. He wanted this report out, and he says

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<v Speaker 2>that he was technically fired for a reduction in force

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<v Speaker 2>overhaul at the agency.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thing's happens. Economy could be tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it could just be a coincidence, but he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>think it was probably AI. He said this my He's

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<v Speaker 2>like this report was going to cost the alcohol industry money.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't like going from two to one for men,

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<v Speaker 2>and they didn't like the mention of cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>I can understand that road. The alcohol industry is struggling

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<v Speaker 1>they are. They are struggling, not like we are talking

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<v Speaker 1>and borderline existential to some particular places and drinks and

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<v Speaker 1>what was it? Oh my goodness, what am I thinking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Where they had just they had just.

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<v Speaker 3>Bourber Jim beam it was bourbon, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Just sitting. I mean they had to do with taxes

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<v Speaker 1>and had to do other stuff. But ro those folks

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<v Speaker 1>aren't drinking it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and wineries are shutting down like this is a issue. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>wineries are shutting down. Alcohol distilleries are shutting down. People

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<v Speaker 2>are not consuming alcohol the way they were, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing for the health of this country. It's

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<v Speaker 2>certainly a bad thing if you make your money in

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<v Speaker 2>the alcohol industry. There is no question they have powerful

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<v Speaker 2>lobbies Washington, just like the smoking industry did for oh

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<v Speaker 2>so long and still does to an extent. But yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a fight, and it's all over money. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not about health. I think, as you pointed out, use

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<v Speaker 2>your common sense. It's not hard to get your head

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<v Speaker 2>around the idea that excessive drinking, or drinking more than

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<v Speaker 2>one drink a day could lead to premature death.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, that reads.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not shocked when you see by how much that

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<v Speaker 2>is the shocking number I think for a lot of us.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, I do think one drink a day is

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<v Speaker 2>so reasonable. And look, one in one thousand you're still

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<v Speaker 2>obviously increasing your risk of premature death.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's a hell of a lot better than one

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn, that is stunning. So I hope this gets the

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<v Speaker 1>attention that it does deserve. And if nothing else, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to fight about it. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>take this side of that side. But we're albad to

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<v Speaker 1>give us all something to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to have information, you can make your personal choice.

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<v Speaker 2>You can decide what risk you want to take. We

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<v Speaker 2>all do it every day in everything we do, when

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<v Speaker 2>we eat, how much we exercise, all of that. But

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<v Speaker 2>knowing what our actual risks are is very important when

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<v Speaker 2>you're making those decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite Robes that I wanted to leave with, and

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<v Speaker 1>we saw sort of articles on this, but they did

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<v Speaker 1>quote a one of the scientists who was ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>that study that was talking about sometimes drink it could

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<v Speaker 1>be good for you or there you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, socials, he's a social anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>They let they finished their article Robes with this quote

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<v Speaker 1>from the guy from that study. And I quote, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe anyone should start drinking for health reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I did see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Even he has to. You just have to, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what you gotta. Like, that's common sense. We all know.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody should be drinking because it's going to improve your health.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>And every single sip you take hurts you in some

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<v Speaker 1>way how bad. Don't know. Where do you fall in

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<v Speaker 1>that one in one thousand and one and twenty five?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know, but that's the risk you take. But Robes,

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<v Speaker 1>now you got a little more information, and look, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Knowledge is power and knowledge can be life saving. So

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to pass along this eye popping, jaw dropping

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<v Speaker 2>headline we saw about alcohol and how much you should

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<v Speaker 2>be having, which apparently is almost never. I'm with that everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for listening to us. I'm Ami Robot alongside TJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.