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Speaker 1: as we have for How long to go The Doug

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Speaker 1: Gotlip Show start two thousand and seven? We get eighteen

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Speaker 1: years now, not four eighteen years, three networks, four different locations.

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Speaker 1: The something man I was just I was just reading

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Speaker 1: about Indiana's life. Ian Backer in Dukeway, who looks like

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Speaker 1: he's gonna miss the remainder of the season. Got hurt celebrating. God,

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Speaker 1: that's the kind of buyer. That's the kind of stuff

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Speaker 1: that happens to my angels and to our chargers. Right,

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Speaker 1: you get hurt celebrating, That's exactly what happened. That happened. Okay,

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Speaker 1: got a metric ton to get get you ready for

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Speaker 1: I do think there's some post mortem for Monday night football.

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Speaker 1: It was Chargers versus the Eagles, and Jalen Hurts had

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Speaker 1: threw an interception that ultimately, ultimately they didn' ultimately that

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Speaker 1: that ended the game. And I bring it up because, well, first,

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Speaker 1: there was a radio conversation between Nick Sirianni and H

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Speaker 1: just an interesting back and forth. I won't play for you,

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Speaker 1: actually a really good kind of coaching discussion in terms

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Speaker 1: his radio had asking about what they can do with

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. Is there a possibility later this season if

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's ridiculous. You know, I think you

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Speaker 2: know Jalen Hurts. I know every time I go out

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Speaker 2: in that field with Jalen Hurts as our quarterback, we

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of things to it. First, just the

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Speaker 1: idea that you're going to replace Jalen Hurts is just it.

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Speaker 1: It's so laughable. And while you might say, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go by how you're playing this year, not

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Speaker 1: how what you've done in total like that, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: Like just because a guy makes a ton of money,

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagle. I thought Nick Sirianni handled it really well.

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Speaker 1: And this is something that when you're a coach, sometimes

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Speaker 1: I haven't loved all parts of the Knick sirian experience.

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Speaker 1: They're too deep into a season. Let's not go crazy.

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Speaker 1: And if you want any sort of leadership going into

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Speaker 1: ship on Jalen hurts when he's going through a bet

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Speaker 1: like Mahomes isn't playing well. Why are we not talking

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Speaker 1: One Hurts has been to two one to one. What

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Speaker 1: terrible for the entire organization if that happens. The only

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Speaker 1: southist with the big head right with he walked in

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with Jalen Hurts?

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Speaker 4: Huh, It's funny. I do. I do radio and like

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Speaker 4: ten markets each week or something eight to ten. But

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Speaker 4: Because he actually threw the ball really well. Can't turn

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Speaker 4: the ball over if you Doug, If you I just

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Speaker 4: like the hurts his throws right, if you just go

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Speaker 4: through every throw, you go well, he meets some great

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Speaker 4: throws he had too that were not on him. Two

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Speaker 4: turnovers were clearly on him. Then the craziness of setting

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Speaker 4: So his actually was not much wrong with him. He

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Speaker 4: timing stuff. He actually did not play badly. Like it's funny,

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Speaker 4: I'm checking in a lot of players this week and

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Speaker 4: a lot of the situations around the league. I don't

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Speaker 4: think the Eagles are terribly upset. They're pissed it they

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Speaker 4: lost the game, but I don't it's not what the

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Speaker 4: fans thought. I understand the reaction because when you turn

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Speaker 4: the ball over five times, everybody points to the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: That's understandable. You played point guard, you know, Doug. It's

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Speaker 4: all on the guy who's distributing the football. Hurts as

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Speaker 4: a ball distributor, as a quarterback, and he can't turn

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Speaker 4: the brawlover. But there was really nothing. What was wrong

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Speaker 4: with him was really the Bears game. He was awful

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Speaker 4: in that game. This game he was really not. But again,

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Speaker 4: that keeps scoring under twenty points, and that is the

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Speaker 4: part that's on the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: You, Philly? I would say that it would be hard

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Speaker 4: for them not to win the division. They're game in

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Speaker 4: half up. No one, Doug. It's one of the most

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Speaker 4: ridiculous records in sports. No one's won the NFC East

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Speaker 4: back to back in twenty one years, but Philly should

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Speaker 4: have it. They have a little bit of an easier

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Speaker 4: But you know, it's a funny business this. You know,

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Speaker 4: we talk about Jalen Hurts, and you know here in Philly,

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Speaker 4: in this market, fans don't know what to make of them.

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Speaker 4: He's so inconsistent. But if you really and I was

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Speaker 4: We had a great talk about Hurts, ironically in a

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give you, Doug what I have on this.

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Speaker 1: Show on Fox Sports Tradiingo. I have breaking news caps,

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Speaker 3: Denny breaking news from Fox Sports Doug.

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Speaker 5: A report from ESPN says that the University of Michigan

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Speaker 4: it was. But this is why these guys move on

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Speaker 4: because you never know if you don't, if you don't

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Speaker 4: meet expectations.

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Speaker 1: Of what.

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Speaker 4: Uh the alumni want and people are in charge, you're

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Speaker 4: going to get fired. You know that, and you know

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Speaker 4: you know you're coaching college basketball. You kind of know

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Speaker 4: the pressure that there is now that that's surprising me.

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Speaker 4: I didn't see that one coming.

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Speaker 1: Then I saw it coming next year.

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Speaker 4: I did not see coming with more Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Coming coming coming this year, but a last year. We

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Speaker 1: are really quickly in the off season. Okay, in the

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Speaker 1: off season. How valuable is Kyler Murray going to be

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Speaker 1: on the open market.

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Speaker 4: It's a great question. Here's the thing with Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 4: It's this contract. There's a significant amount of guaranteed money

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Speaker 4: of that money be able to trade him. They're gonna

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Speaker 4: have to eat some of that money. That's the first thing. Now, Carla,

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Speaker 4: Murray's not gonna be for everybody. He's under five fot ten.

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Speaker 4: He's about five to nine in a quarter, and that's

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Speaker 4: you know, that's gonna be a deterrent from teams trading

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Speaker 4: for him. But they're they're only thirty two of these jobs.

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Speaker 4: Someone will be interested. It'll probably happen. He's coming off

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Speaker 4: of this front injury and that's the concern. But the

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Speaker 4: hottest guy I'm telling you this right now because I

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Speaker 4: got this from two NFL people. It's gonna be Mac Jones.

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Speaker 4: Believe or not. I know it's some people are like

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Speaker 4: Mac Jones, get out of here. His tape, I'm told,

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Speaker 4: is phenomenal when he filled in for brock Purty. That's

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Speaker 4: another reason why they're still hanging in there. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna make the playoffs most likely, but why they're

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Speaker 4: alive for that division and just why they're playing well

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Speaker 4: is mac Jones kind of kept everything to float and

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Speaker 4: played well. But he's got to be in a West

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Speaker 4: Coast system. He does not have a strong arm. He's

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Speaker 4: a timing based quarterback, and if he's in the right system,

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Speaker 4: he actually could be this year's Daniel Jim.

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Speaker 1: not getting in the middle with you.

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Speaker 3: It's time for stuck in the middle, the midway.

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Speaker 1: Okay there, Jason, what's the topic of the midway from here?

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Speaker 6: I sent out two topics to the group text and

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Speaker 6: got one response, So I think we need to do

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Speaker 6: a product meeting on the air. I gave two options.

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Speaker 6: A third was not presented. So here are the two options.

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Speaker 7: What is your fix for the college football playoff?

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Speaker 4: Fix?

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Speaker 6: What's your fix? You know, we can have an interesting

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Speaker 6: conversation about each other's fixes.

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Speaker 4: I think R J.

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Speaker 6: Young he presented a fix thirty minutes ago that Doug

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Speaker 6: utterly shot down and demoralized and it wasn't even fair.

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Speaker 1: They're just not going to play seventy games.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the listeners heard it. They saw they saw the

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Speaker 6: massacre on the air, and then Marcus Freeman getting interest

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Speaker 6: from the NFL and it it kind of struck a

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Speaker 6: personal cored with me. And I want to say, in life,

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Speaker 6: do you stay at a great job that you are

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Speaker 6: loved at and you're good at for a bigger challenge,

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Speaker 6: more stress, but more money.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's more stress. Again, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what Marcus Freeman's job's like. But again I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's more strep But again, both are great topics. Dan,

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Speaker 1: do you have a lean?

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Speaker 5: Well, I did on the group text.

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Speaker 4: I did tell you.

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Speaker 5: She tells me you didn't read my response, Doug, I said, job,

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Speaker 5: I have ideas on the college football playoff, but I'd

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Speaker 5: rather talk about.

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Speaker 1: The Jay Stews.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I kind of like the job. You know, everyone

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Speaker 7: could relate.

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Speaker 1: To that, right, Okay, buyer, why don't you go first?

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Speaker 5: So I think that there's a lot of and it's

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Speaker 5: not just Marcus Freeman, just even reading within the last

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Speaker 5: hour Jim Knowles. Remember, Jim Knowles was the hottest name

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Speaker 5: in college football for a couple of years for what

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Speaker 5: he did at Oklahoma State is their defensive coordinator. Then

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Speaker 5: Ohio State lures him away for millions. Penn State then

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Speaker 5: lures him away last off season for probably a million more,

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Speaker 5: and now he's likely on his way to Tennessee as

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Speaker 5: James Franklin's no longer a happy Valley and Matt Campbell's

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Speaker 5: bringing in his his own crew. So when you chase

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Speaker 5: the money, I think that that is a situation that

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Speaker 5: can show you, all right, maybe the grass isn't always greener.

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Speaker 5: Now mat Ohio State, he ended up winning a national championship,

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Speaker 5: right for the two million dollars a year that they

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Speaker 5: paid him to get him to leave Oklahoma State. But

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Speaker 5: then maybe leaving Ohio State wasn't the greatest thing for

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Speaker 5: him to go for a million dollars more. I think

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Speaker 5: it's the grass. The grass being greener. On the other side,

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Speaker 5: cannot be about money. It has to be about accomplishment.

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Speaker 5: So if Marcus Freeman's goal is to become a Super

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Speaker 5: Bowl winning head coach, then I think you should go

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Speaker 5: to the National Football League and take those offers to

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Speaker 5: do that. But if you're just chasing the dollar, I

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Speaker 5: don't think that you're ever going to be happy.

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Speaker 1: Look, he has six kids, is that right? Remember? Right,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot to gaggle. It's more than a couple,

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Speaker 1: definitely more than a few. I think it's six. Could

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Speaker 1: be wrong, Dan is a five or is six? I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 7: Actually I don't seven seven.

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Speaker 1: Children, all right, that's a recruiting class.

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Speaker 2: Uh so.

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Speaker 1: And and he does a great job of crediting his

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Speaker 1: wife with like, hey, I'm barely home. You know, she

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Speaker 1: does an amazing job.

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Speaker 7: I just.

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Speaker 1: With the realities of these jobs. I know we're sitting

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Speaker 1: there going like it doesn't really matter. I'm gonna tell you,

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Speaker 1: I think it does, especially a guy who has seven

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Speaker 1: kids and it matters that much to him. My guess

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Speaker 1: is he ain't leaving for the pros. Now. The good

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Speaker 1: thing about the pros is your off season is actually

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Speaker 1: your off season college. You don't recruit off campus nearly

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Speaker 1: as much as you used to. You're recruiting out of

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Speaker 1: the portal. It can be a fairly impersonal a high

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Speaker 1: school recruiting is still big at Notre Dame, but they

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Speaker 1: do recruit out of the portal a good amount as well.

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Speaker 1: I just think in terms of family and community, you

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Speaker 1: stay or in the college environment. Now, my only question

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Speaker 1: is this is actually really Dan? He played Ohio State?

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Speaker 1: Is his dream job Ohio State? And if his dream

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Speaker 1: job is Ohio State, he just you got I guess

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Speaker 1: wait it out, or you go to the Pros and

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Speaker 1: then you can always come back when Ohio State comes

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Speaker 1: open and you've cashed in a bunch of money. The

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Speaker 1: problem is, again, you've got seven kids. I'm guessing five

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Speaker 1: or six of them are school age. I don't know

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Speaker 1: the spread of all the number of kids taking them out,

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Speaker 1: moved them to like New York, the Giants or something like.

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Speaker 1: I just it's a hard life and I don't see it.

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Speaker 5: I'll say this like when you talk about the Ohio

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Speaker 5: State job, like, honestly, there's a bunch of guys at

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Speaker 5: their dream job is Ohio State. She just went from

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Speaker 5: South Florida, Auburn probably dream job go back to Ohio State.

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Speaker 5: Ryan Hartline who just left us, you know he's going

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Speaker 5: to stay on through the playoff as the coordinator, but

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Speaker 5: he's going to go to South Florida. Why did he

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Speaker 5: take the South Florida job?

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Speaker 1: So? Is it the only way to get the hoigh

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Speaker 1: of stage?

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's at least what a lot of people feel.

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Speaker 5: So like in those instances, like what is the best

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Speaker 5: way to do it? And somebody's going to be left out? Now,

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Speaker 5: if Ryan Day were to leave tomorrow, Marcus Freeman being

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Speaker 5: a candidate at the top, you know, would he definitely

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Speaker 5: topped the list of anybody out there of taking that job.

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Speaker 5: But you know what would would that be the would

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Speaker 5: that even be the timing of the move.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you who's going to come after him in

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Speaker 1: a year.

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Speaker 7: Who's that?

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Speaker 1: Michigan?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Maybe, yeah, sure, the Sharon More era. Yeah, has

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Speaker 5: not come to fruition despite signing. They just had a

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Speaker 5: really good recruiting class. Michigan. Will see how that pans out.

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Speaker 7: He has improved year over year on his record, Right, it's.

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Speaker 1: Two years he started a freshman quarterback. They're going to

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Speaker 1: have ups and downs. I mean, you gotta get yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got to get better.

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Speaker 8: Quit by five and now he's nine and three, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I actually yeah, I like from the outside looking in

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Speaker 8: and not knowing all of the ins and outs there,

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Speaker 8: I've actually felt that he's done an alright job.

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Speaker 5: But there is this and maybe it's social media blowing

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Speaker 5: it out of proportion, but there's a bit of this

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Speaker 5: undercurrent that isn't happy with what he's done.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if he should have gotten

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Speaker 5: the job for all the other stuff that he was

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Speaker 5: implicated in, but that's neither here nor there. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: if they have a they have an eight and three

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Speaker 5: season and lose to Ohio State again, yeah, I think that,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's going to be a name that's put

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Speaker 5: out there. But would you leave Notre Dame for Michigan.

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Speaker 5: The Dame job to me is I mean top of

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Speaker 5: the top.

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Speaker 1: So so for you guys to understand, Okay, Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: for a long time didn't pay, didn't pay, didn't take transfers,

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Speaker 1: and it was hard to get into. Okay, that was

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Speaker 1: that was what limited Notre Dame. Didn't pay, hard to

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Speaker 1: get into, didn't take transfers, take transfers. Now, I think

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Speaker 1: they pay a lot of money. They have a ton

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Speaker 1: of money, and they're more reasonable. Again, it's not a

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Speaker 1: junior college, not a lot to everybody in, but more

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Speaker 1: reasonable about getting kids into school. If you do that

647
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Speaker 1: at Notre Dame, why would you ever leave? Why would

648
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: why would you ever leave? I would, I would never leave.

649
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Speaker 1: It is an unbelievable job.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 1: I think again, if those three things are true, it's,

652
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Speaker 1: in any conversation, the best job in the country. Okay,

653
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Speaker 1: because it's synonymous with college football. You can get into

654
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Speaker 1: any household for recruiting. You're a draw national TV. You're

655
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Speaker 1: making a lot of money. It does cost nothing to

656
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Speaker 1: live there. You know you can, you know you can

657
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Speaker 1: go to Michigan. You know, drive up to Michigan the

658
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Speaker 1: coast and have a have a home there in the

659
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Speaker 1: summer and be on the water, play golf whatever. Like

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Speaker 1: you're an hour and a half from Chicago. You got

661
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Speaker 1: alums everywhere, Notre Dame alums. Let me tell you what

662
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Speaker 1: it's like to play a Notre Dame in basketball. And

663
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: we weren't any good everywhere we played, and we played

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Speaker 1: all over the country. After the game, there be a

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame club of Baltimore, of Miami, of Los Angeles,

666
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Speaker 1: of wherever, and you know, you'd have you'd meet and

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00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: kind of kidd it's a while or whatever. Now those

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Speaker 1: guys are all influential in terms of nil Again, Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame is not a job. I'm leaving an NFL job.

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Speaker 1: NFL job is just a job, just a job.

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Speaker 7: You know, you're not going to see your seven children.

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Speaker 1: It's all stressful. Okay, yeah, none of it's not stressed.

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Speaker 8: But like the sleeping in the office thing that they

674
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Speaker 8: claim to do, you know, and I'm sure they do,

675
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Speaker 8: but like in the NFL, it's like even more time

676
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Speaker 8: put into game planning.

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Speaker 5: And I've heard people say though that the NFL, at

678
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Speaker 5: least it's just about football.

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Speaker 7: Yeah that's true. Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 1: And honestly college college where I just had a conversation

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Speaker 1: to the break about a class with one of my players,

682
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Speaker 1: but for the most part at the highest level, kind

683
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: is just about football there too. But now here's the

684
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: downside to college sports. Now, how it's do you got

685
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Speaker 1: to deal with agents, which you have to deal with

686
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, but more so and if you're not

687
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Speaker 1: dealing always with the same level or quality of agent,

688
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Speaker 1: And until you get multi year contracts with guys, you

689
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: can have free agency every year, and that's really hard.

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing that will push guys to the

691
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Speaker 1: pros from college because dude, do I have to recruit

692
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Speaker 1: a whole news team every year? That's really really hard.

693
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: I have ten new players. It is not easy. Not easy.

694
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Speaker 1: Like can I touch you guys this? Like nope, thought

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Speaker 1: that last year.

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Speaker 5: I would also say this that if we're talking about

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Speaker 5: Marcus Freeman, that the Notre Dame job is probably better

698
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Speaker 5: than two thirds of the NFL jobs, like of just

699
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Speaker 5: of we're looking at it like in a way, like

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Speaker 5: the FL is a step up because it's professional football,

701
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Speaker 5: it's at its highest level. I don't think that's ultimately.

702
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Speaker 5: I think some guys are made to coach pro football,

703
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 5: some guys are made to coach college football, and others

704
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 5: can go back and forth between both. But if you

705
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 5: took two thirds of the openings in the NFL and said, hey,

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Speaker 5: Marcus Freeman, you want to come here, considering like would

707
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 5: Marcus Freeman leave for the Raiders, that would that would

708
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 5: be absurd. Why would you ever go to that ownership group? Right,

709
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 5: never have your family to Vegas like that doesn't and

710
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 5: so then you can lose the job in three or

711
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Speaker 5: four years like that. So so like even Notre Dame,

712
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Speaker 5: when we're talking about the value of Notre Dame, they're

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Speaker 5: half the NFL is eliminated in my mind, Yeah, I

714
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Speaker 5: agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you're not you're not taking Falcons, You're not

716
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Speaker 1: taking the Jets, are taking Jets, Like that's not taking Raiders.

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Speaker 1: It's not. Listen, you keep saying stress.

718
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Speaker 7: No, I mean, but like like just the the monumental pressure,

719
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Speaker 7: just like it's just.

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Speaker 1: Talks Sam Sam, Sam, Sam Sam. How many SEC coaches

721
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Speaker 1: were fired this year?

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Speaker 7: A whole lot.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna talking about the New York media though, I'm

724
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Speaker 8: just talking about the pressure them, you know, under the mic.

725
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Speaker 1: Again, let me just explain, he's the head coach at

726
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Everything is micro managed. Okay, everything is micro managed.

727
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Speaker 1: There's an incredible level of stress and anxiety. Heck, they

728
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: lost two games by four points and won the rest

729
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Speaker 1: of their games and they're not in the college.

730
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Speaker 7: No, no, I know I'm talking. I'm just speaking about it.

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Speaker 1: And you have you have James Franklin. Okay, James Franklin's

732
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Speaker 1: won a Rose Bowl. James Franklin's done everything for Penn State.

733
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Speaker 1: Three games in the season he was fired. He didn't

734
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Speaker 1: have the choice, he had to move his family. Absolutely,

735
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Speaker 1: go Look my Gundy won of twenty one years, eighteen

736
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Speaker 1: of them. He won won more games there than anybody's

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Speaker 1: ever won. Three games in Gone now his alma mater,

738
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Speaker 1: he's no longer the coach there. It's super weird. So

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Speaker 1: my point is that if you think that thel is

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Speaker 1: more stressful than college football, no, I got news for it.

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Speaker 8: The culture surrounding the Jets, like a job like that

742
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Speaker 8: is just there's it's so negative, Like a place like

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Speaker 8: Notre Dame.

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Speaker 5: You can't win, is kind of what you're saying. Unless

745
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 5: I win big. You can't win Notre Dame.

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Speaker 8: It's going to be a pressure cooker, but it's also

747
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Speaker 8: there's going to be a lot of positivity behind you,

748
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Speaker 8: and those fans are going to be in the stands

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Speaker 8: every weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you college, I agree with that second you

751
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Speaker 1: have now, South Bend's not a college town. The campus

752
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame is beautiful, it's not South Bend. There are

753
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Speaker 1: some brilliant Mishawaka is a really nice area. But I

754
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Speaker 1: do generally agree with you. It's not truly a college town.

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Speaker 5: What was a smaller town then small town vibes not

756
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Speaker 5: small interject here, but I think that we have two

757
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Speaker 5: people in on this conversation that have had prominent jobs before,

758
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Speaker 5: not that they aren't now, but Jason was such a

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Speaker 5: key part of Jim Rome and Doug you are such

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Speaker 5: a big part of Es. You've talked about the moving

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Speaker 5: of those jobs and moving to different spots. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think that that's sort of even just on the

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Speaker 5: on in this business or any other business, there's the

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Speaker 5: grass maybe isn't always greener.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point. Don't don't mess with happy. I

766
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Speaker 1: just say, don't mess with happy if you're not happy, well, okay,

767
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: there's no amount of money that's going to make you happier.

768
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Speaker 1: But if you're happy and you like who you work for,

769
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Speaker 1: you like who you work with, and you like where

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Speaker 1: your family is, just don't don't move.

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Speaker 7: Just ask Kirk ference