Speaker 1: So forgive me that I don't watch the show. I
Speaker 1: don't watch TV. I've realized I watch only like weird
Speaker 1: crime dramas happening in like rainy bleak towns in Wales
Speaker 1: or whatever. So you are still an active real estate broker.
Speaker 2: I do real estate, but now I'm flipping houses with Taric.
Speaker 2: So I took, you know, what I learned from real estate,
Speaker 2: and then I learned how to flip houses on the
Speaker 2: first season of our show. And after flipping, now I've
Speaker 2: done i'd say, twenty five houses.
Speaker 1: You you're saying, I feel like with you or this
Speaker 1: is like yours? Okay, two of you just you do houses?
Speaker 2: Yeah, with our chimn have we have a team, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean we have a like a bright business. So
Speaker 2: but I mainly like I handled the design and no
Speaker 2: I help with the flipping. But I'm still learning, you know,
Speaker 2: there's continuous learning in this business. But it was it
Speaker 2: was like interesting to see, like I went from learning
Speaker 2: on TV which was really real, and I got a
Speaker 2: lot of shit for it. It was people were so
Speaker 2: mean to me. But I'm like, listen, I'm learning a craft,
Speaker 2: a whole new like craft that I have to learn
Speaker 2: and you guys are watching me do it, like give
Speaker 2: me a little grace here. But uh, and then season
Speaker 2: two you see like really what I learned and what
Speaker 2: we put into action, And I'm proud of myself. I
Speaker 2: mean I not only went from like a reality TV
Speaker 2: where it's like, yeah, they give you your talking points
Speaker 2: like as you know, but the scenes are the scenes.
Speaker 2: And then I went into like a hosting position where
Speaker 2: I'm flipping houses, but I'm on AHGTV. You're more of
Speaker 2: like a host. You're having to teach people how to
Speaker 2: do the things along the way and banter back and
Speaker 2: forth about these things that I'm learning. And so I
Speaker 2: like not only learned how to slip houses, I had
Speaker 2: to learn how to be on a whole new TV network.
Speaker 2: Like it's a very different experience than Netflix. And no,
Speaker 2: it's less it's less mess. It's more like formatted and struck. Sure, sure,
Speaker 2: then just fast and loose. Yeah, and you said twenty
Speaker 2: one you've done.
Speaker 3: Well, probably that twenty five at this point.
Speaker 1: So it's funny because I don't know why I didn't
Speaker 1: even think of this, which because I'm talking to you,
Speaker 1: I have probably I have to count flipped I don't
Speaker 1: know personally maybe six or seven places, and it was amazing.
Speaker 1: It was accidental, so I never I was like late
Speaker 1: thirties and I was broke, and then I made a
Speaker 1: lot of money and bought my first place and that
Speaker 1: I had put in I don't know, ptend, like eight
Speaker 1: hundred into it, so I you know, that was that
Speaker 1: was a big profit. And that was the first time
Speaker 1: I ever did that. And I came from like an
Speaker 1: Ikea design department, so I didn't realize you could put
Speaker 1: in your own finishes. And that place needed a lot
Speaker 1: of work. And every place you think needs work, it
Speaker 1: needs a ton more. It's like it's always more because
Speaker 1: you want to get perfection. You've gone so far.
Speaker 3: That's me. That's me because I like luxury.
Speaker 2: So I'm bringing in luxury to our flips, but at
Speaker 2: a lower cost. But I'm someone that if I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put my name on something, I can't just be like,
Speaker 2: oh that's okay.
Speaker 3: I want to do more. I want the ox and
Speaker 3: wal I want the wallpaper.
Speaker 2: I want like I'm learning, because I'm not a designer,
Speaker 2: I'm learning how to design. I have a good eye,
Speaker 2: i'd say, but you know, I don't like to call
Speaker 2: myself a designer because I'm not.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a very you know.
Speaker 1: Get it. I'm not a designer by any stuff. You
Speaker 1: have good takee you, but you have good taste. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's uh. You're sort of selling yourself short
Speaker 1: by saying like I'm not a designer, because the truth is,
Speaker 1: designers indulge in expensive decisions without thinking about the investment
Speaker 1: at hand. And so what's happened now as a business
Speaker 1: person unintentionally, but it's always happening that if I'm looking
Speaker 1: for a personal property, I'm always thinking about how it's
Speaker 1: being designed so it's economical and not to tape specific,
Speaker 1: so you can get out of it if you need to,
Speaker 1: and someone else will on it. But it'd be exactly
Speaker 1: what I want. And I'm always thinking of each place
Speaker 1: as something that if the shit hits the fan, I
Speaker 1: would be willing to sell or live there. Like it's
Speaker 1: very flexible, so every place I buy has a little
Speaker 1: bit of a transactional aspect to it in nature, even
Speaker 1: though I'm not intentionally flipping it. I'm not a flipper.
Speaker 1: I just have done it and done really well. So
Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing for people at home
Speaker 1: to know. Also, I don't ever start from scratch. I
Speaker 1: don't like guts and I don't like perfect. I always
Speaker 1: go in with something no one else would want to
Speaker 1: even deal with, because that's when you get the good
Speaker 1: deals and that's when you make the money. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I bet that's is that how you are?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we find the I mean we don't
Speaker 2: care well what we want as is crappy at houses
Speaker 2: because we can happier, we can we want a good deal. Yes,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, oh yes, and it's fine, like I must say,
Speaker 2: like real estate was, you know, it's found what you're
Speaker 2: dealing with other people, Like this is him and I
Speaker 2: getting down and dirty with it, doing this together, and
Speaker 2: it's so much fun and I've learned so much. I'm
Speaker 2: constantly still learning and I love the end result.
Speaker 3: Like it's so fun for me. And then you know,
Speaker 3: when you make a great profit.
Speaker 2: We don't do like five million dollar houses, we do
Speaker 2: you know it might be my solls like one point
Speaker 2: to two mill.
Speaker 1: And oh so you're doing a volley that kind of
Speaker 1: in and out.
Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, I mean I wish it could be in
Speaker 2: and out, but we're permitting everything and that's like what
Speaker 2: we you know, a lot of people get in and
Speaker 2: now they don't permit, but we permit everything. And obviously
Speaker 2: sometimes that can be totally yes because of the cities.
Speaker 2: So we think we're going to get in and out
Speaker 2: of one project, it could take over a year. So
Speaker 2: you know, it's just it's a huge gamble, and but
Speaker 2: we love it. But my husband does a lot of wholesaling,
Speaker 2: so he does a lot of that where we do
Speaker 2: the flipping together.
Speaker 1: That's another model though, like for example, that's another version
Speaker 1: of trickery.
Speaker 3: I love this space. I love it.
Speaker 1: So for example, another model, I bought a condo in
Speaker 1: Miami and I got it for a deal because the
Speaker 1: building is renovating and renovating their pool that I have
Speaker 1: a pool, but it's on the beach, so I wouldn't
Speaker 1: care about the pool anyway. And you always want to
Speaker 1: look for like things like that that like you're you know,
Speaker 1: but I knew that they were building a lot of
Speaker 1: amazing other like high end clubs and properties right next
Speaker 1: to it, so I was like, this is good. But
Speaker 1: I found my I needed to get in a certain point,
Speaker 1: and my my filter was I would do any kind
Speaker 1: of work that didn't require a permit. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of trickery, like there was a disgusting tile and
Speaker 1: to rip out the tile would have been permitted, but
Speaker 1: like micro you know, different things like covering a vanity.
Speaker 1: There was a bidet in the bathroom that to get
Speaker 1: it removed what it had to be permitted and it
Speaker 1: was like a bulky thing, and I needed a new closet,
Speaker 1: so I created a closet and just like this covered cabinet.
Speaker 1: So there's still a bidet in there, but it looks
Speaker 1: like it's just like a little wall like almost like
Speaker 1: a radiator cover. So I feel like that's so it
Speaker 1: is so creative. What are your top three to five
Speaker 1: things that you've learned, not meaning meaning like do this
Speaker 1: instead of that, Like do this type of paint and
Speaker 1: it's like Venetian plaster, Like what are your like things
Speaker 1: that you're you know, cover a hole with a fireplace,
Speaker 1: like with electric fireplace. Like what are things that you've
Speaker 1: done that's like trickery that has added value and been
Speaker 1: like fast and easy.
Speaker 2: I'd say, like paint paint is fast, easy, cheap. So
Speaker 2: if you are like an accent wallperson, which I love accents,
Speaker 2: doing like wallpaper can be thousands of dollars like between
Speaker 2: the labor and that's.
Speaker 1: Why you like only what this is literally a room
Speaker 1: like a box in my house that used to be
Speaker 1: an electric room. So you notice this because this is
Speaker 1: one wall, only two and it's literally decals, not even wallpaper. Yes,
Speaker 1: I love an accent wall too, because if you can't
Speaker 1: afford you to the whole room, do one wall, and
Speaker 1: you can do really cool paint designs too. So we've
Speaker 1: done and like you know, because not every house we
Speaker 1: can put in wallpaper or not every A lot of
Speaker 1: times we do, but sometimes you just don't have the
Speaker 1: We have the budget, but does the neighborhood doesn't.
Speaker 3: It's not for the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: And so we'll do like really cool designs of paint
Speaker 2: on a wall where it looks more high end and
Speaker 2: the buyer walks into like oh oh, madam. We're trying
Speaker 2: to like create create moments for people and where what
Speaker 2: would I want in my house? So that's what Tark
Speaker 2: and I always constantly thinking, like how would we want
Speaker 2: to live in this house? What would we do if
Speaker 2: we were owning this house and living in this house?
Speaker 3: I always like I love. This isn't saving money, But.
Speaker 2: I love a real fireplace too, because you know, we
Speaker 2: can't put fireplaces in anymore. So anytime a house has
Speaker 2: a real fireplace, I will keep fireplace that will do
Speaker 2: everything I can to keep it. I think drawer pulls
Speaker 2: are a big thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Changing out all the hardware in a house like it
Speaker 1: can hard really change the freshness because people's eyes go
Speaker 1: to the details and people forget about that stuff. That's
Speaker 1: the stuff people don't do. They might paint the door,
Speaker 1: but it's like just a polished synergy through a whole house.
Speaker 1: Is that you know, true to your point?
Speaker 3: Paint?
Speaker 1: I think people just redoing their linens, they're betting freshens
Speaker 1: up a house. Yeah. I think there are little things
Speaker 1: that make a big big Oh. One of my trickeries
Speaker 1: is I have dogs that will pee on the corners
Speaker 1: of things and like they are their peers. I'm an
Speaker 1: outdoor rug indoor person, always like just decorative out I
Speaker 1: don't even play games because I don't want to ruin
Speaker 1: my day and get the steamer, get the people. So
Speaker 1: I always have outdoor rugs inside.
Speaker 2: Yep, I made a mistake because you know I came
Speaker 2: from luxury real estate. So I like nice things I
Speaker 2: like and I made a mistake of getting this big
Speaker 2: silk rug in our own personal home, but I did
Speaker 2: seal it. So I sealed all the furniture from like
Speaker 2: the dogs and the kids, so anytime things are spilled,
Speaker 2: it doesn't like see like go into like the drug.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I did that to every.
Speaker 2: Single piece of furniture in our house, which really helped
Speaker 2: curb appeal. Like you can change like the outside, like
Speaker 2: add some some plants, paint the outside of the house,
Speaker 2: like clean up your the outdoors.
Speaker 3: So that's what people see with the curb oppin.
Speaker 1: Like you said, a good point and like the approach.
Speaker 1: And if you can't do it well, do like less
Speaker 1: like keep it clean and don't get all cluttered up
Speaker 1: with like doing halfway with the Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: I mean this is the thing is I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to do it for a living because then I would
Speaker 1: it would take away from it for me. But I've
Speaker 1: I'm literally doing something right now. I found it. I
Speaker 1: find it very Uh it's satisfying because it is satisfying.
Speaker 1: It's very satisfying because you get to have vision do
Speaker 1: something and make it your own so I think that's
Speaker 1: really it's great what you guys do.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Yeah, good for you. I mean, listen, life
Speaker 2: as life as life. So I I feel like everyone,
Speaker 2: you know, we have our challenges and I have, you know,
Speaker 2: weeks where I'm not motivated. Like last week, I felt
Speaker 2: like I'm a very motivated, driven person, but like last week,
Speaker 2: I just didn't have it in me.
Speaker 3: I mean, I also was like not feeling well and
Speaker 3: I was sick.
Speaker 2: But you know, I said to Tark, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: just not in a good place this week.
Speaker 3: And He's like, we all go through that. Like he's
Speaker 3: very We're really.
Speaker 2: Good at when I'm feeling down or something's not going
Speaker 2: right for me, He's right there to be like motivate
Speaker 2: me and get me going again, and like it's a
Speaker 2: or gives me space to feel it's okay to not
Speaker 2: feel like perfect every day. It's okay to not feel
Speaker 2: like your best every day. And you know, I think,
Speaker 2: like I'm I am a perfectionist, so I'm hard on myself.
Speaker 3: So if I'm not like and he's he's hard to
Speaker 3: keep up with.
Speaker 2: He is probably one of the most hard working people
Speaker 2: I've ever met. In my life and he'll always say,
Speaker 2: you don't have to keep up with me. But I think,
Speaker 2: like when you're in like a relationship, like I'm not
Speaker 2: going to be at the Montage every day laying out
Speaker 2: drinking like Margarita's all day, right, Like I'm very like
Speaker 2: a driven person. I would I want to, but I'm not.
Speaker 2: But no, things are good. I mean, you know, we
Speaker 2: go to couples therapy. We go like every other week
Speaker 2: to get that was like a newer thing for us
Speaker 2: to just learn how to communicate. Like as our relationship gets,
Speaker 2: you know, deeper and longer and we've been together for
Speaker 2: a longer time to talk through like certain things that
Speaker 2: maybe it's a little uncomfortable to talk about at home
Speaker 2: or you know, when you have the kids, Like it's
Speaker 2: trying to find space to talk about deeper things without
Speaker 2: like maybe getting into an argument and just kind of
Speaker 2: learning we're different if you talking like in the ennock
Speaker 2: in the.
Speaker 3: Door before you get rubbed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like just why not, you know, why not
Speaker 2: like talk about deeper things. I mean, I'm at a
Speaker 2: place I'm thirty seven, I'm turning thirty eighth this year,
Speaker 2: and I've really enjoyed motherhood. I've loved having a baby
Speaker 2: of my own. It's my most favorite thing I'm doing
Speaker 2: in my life. And he's the yummiest, sweetest boy, and
Speaker 2: it made me want another baby, and Taric does not
Speaker 2: want way, so we're.
Speaker 3: Kind of dealing.
Speaker 2: It's not like fifty percent he wants one and no,
Speaker 2: it's like no, and that was it's really hard for me.
Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting. That is hard for you. But I
Speaker 1: was your age when I had my daughter, and oh, yep,
Speaker 1: I guess how old you were, thirty seven or thirty
Speaker 1: eight when you had I'm thirty seven right now and
Speaker 1: I had Tristan out there thirty five. Never mind, I
Speaker 1: was your age now when I had my daughter, and
Speaker 1: I think I thought about maybe having another one. I
Speaker 1: will say, it sounds like you're very driven, and it's
Speaker 1: it's nice to like. I'm just saying because you it
Speaker 1: sounds like you're in a great relationship and you got
Speaker 1: it going good. And if you're going to mess up
Speaker 1: your dynamic and have him have some resentment and I
Speaker 1: want to go back in, that could mess up the
Speaker 1: whole apple cart. Like in a deal, not everyone gets
Speaker 1: what they want, and having another child is a big one,
Speaker 1: so you'd have to really decide what's more important to
Speaker 1: you in your life. It sounds like you have a
Speaker 1: whole good dynamic, which is extraordinarily rare. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: will say that you I am surprised to be I was.
Speaker 1: When I left The Housewives for the second time, I
Speaker 1: was kind of retiring. I was going to do this
Speaker 1: podcast is to play around. This doesn't take a lot,
Speaker 1: and I could talk about tune of Fish. That doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what I talk about.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 1: It's like nothing to do. And I kind of was
Speaker 1: walking out of everything, and by just living honestly and
Speaker 1: having fun and doing what I wanted to, I ended
Speaker 1: up cracking open a career much bigger than my other career,
Speaker 1: like drastically exponentially. And remember I was on the cover
Speaker 1: of Forbes magazine and making millions of dollars years ago
Speaker 1: on The Housewives, and you know, like made a lot
Speaker 1: of money on Skinner Ger. I'm doing much bigger than
Speaker 1: I was then, And this is like playing with the
Speaker 1: house is money. Now I'm in my fifties and it's crazy.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, you could have a whole other
Speaker 1: chapter depending upout what your personal priorities are is money
Speaker 1: and success is certainly not everything. But it's not really
Speaker 1: about money at all. It's about like fulfillment and me
Speaker 1: realizing Wait a second, Like I now, when you say
Speaker 1: your age, you think you're old, Like I, I can't
Speaker 1: believe how young you are, like young young, because I
Speaker 1: still go out on dates and have guys think I'm
Speaker 1: hot and get which you are on the thank you
Speaker 1: and get flown around the world and get brand deals
Speaker 1: with twenty two year old. Yeah, so I'm saying it's
Speaker 1: longer journey than you think. So I'm just saying you
Speaker 1: never like you might let the cards be what they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be. I'm in fight for what you want
Speaker 1: an advocate.
Speaker 2: You have this personality like your TikTok is just so good,
Speaker 2: and you've you're doing something that like TikTok, I feel
Speaker 2: like was so structured. Before it was like you know,
Speaker 2: and now like I feel like you go on and
Speaker 2: you just talk.
Speaker 3: About it's like a podcast.
Speaker 2: I feel like for you, and I feel like it's
Speaker 2: people are getting to know you on Like I've gotten
Speaker 2: to know you from your TikTok on a level that
Speaker 2: I never knew you before. I knew you from you know,
Speaker 2: the Housewives and uh, the Margarita and like everything you did,
Speaker 2: and but now I'm like, wow.
Speaker 3: And you're so good.
Speaker 2: You do it gracially, yeah, but you're your grace full
Speaker 2: with that, which I think is like, it's so rare
Speaker 2: to be so cute and so graceful at the same time.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna cry because I I you just talking
Speaker 1: to you. I just realized that. Like I've said this intellectually,
Speaker 1: but the thing is years ago. I remember going on
Speaker 1: the Apprentice of my best friends being like, wait a second,
Speaker 1: but why didn't they show you being funny. I'm like,
Speaker 1: because that's not what the show is about. The show
Speaker 1: was about the task at hand, Like they want to
Speaker 1: know who's winning the task, who's losing, and who I'm
Speaker 1: fighting with. Then I'm on the house. It's the reality show.
Speaker 1: They're like, but wait, that's not even you. Why you
Speaker 1: have any these arguments, I'm like, because that's what the
Speaker 1: show is about. It's by trashing other women and covering
Speaker 1: and frosting and doing a charity event pretending we're women
Speaker 1: supporting women. That's so finally, like, there's no vehicle like that.
Speaker 1: Then you do another show that's now it's money Court formatted,
Speaker 1: but now you're stuck in a box and you're talking
Speaker 1: about so there was I just found the place where
Speaker 1: I always wanted to be because I'm insane, I'm wacky,
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't care what I look like. I'm
Speaker 1: not vain like all of it's real. So finally I
Speaker 1: found the reality show that I don't have to sit
Speaker 1: in a conference room to decide someone to decide what
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be doing, and then edited, and six
Speaker 1: months later, I'm doing a press tour feeling like I
Speaker 1: have a leash on my neck. I'm not that girl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is who I am. I'm a crazy lady with
Speaker 1: my pajamas on eating chicken salad. So I love it.
Speaker 1: I found my universe. So I'm saying to you that
Speaker 1: bringing it back to you is that you're on a journey.
Speaker 1: You're in the process. First of all, you could still
Speaker 1: have kids in five years. I mean it sounds like
Speaker 1: you couldn't to you, but you definitely could. And let
Speaker 1: the journey. You know, stick to what you want for yourself,
Speaker 1: but think about the whole big picture because you just
Speaker 1: don't know what you'll be doing in fifteen years and
Speaker 1: having kids is a lot of responsibility.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: I think that's where, you know, my baby's two years
Speaker 2: old now, and I really feel so I launched a
Speaker 2: beauty line on Valentine's Day and that kind of case,
Speaker 2: I was in, like a really really sad place when
Speaker 2: he was like, it's a hard no for me, and
Speaker 2: you know, we kind of went back and forth, and
Speaker 2: I think for him it was like it's so easy
Speaker 2: to say no, but then I'm a whole different person
Speaker 2: where it's like I really love being a mom so
Speaker 2: much I want another one, and it was hard for me.
Speaker 3: It was just hard. It was it was tough. It's
Speaker 3: harder for you. I was dying a lot. I was very.
Speaker 2: Emotional, very emotional, and then I launched How the Essentials,
Speaker 2: and it kind of took over a big part of
Speaker 2: my life where it kind of felt like it filled
Speaker 2: a void for me maybe where you know, I wanted
Speaker 2: another baby so bad. And then I launched How the
Speaker 2: Essentials and that took over and it's still it's taking
Speaker 2: over so much of my life that I haven't you know,
Speaker 2: I was thinking every day about a baby every day,
Speaker 2: every day, every day, and I was talking to process it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but when I wasn't talking to my husband about it,
Speaker 2: I wasn't like I want a baby.
Speaker 3: I want a baby.
Speaker 2: So when I was like, I want a baby's like
Speaker 2: you do? Like I didn't like, yes, of course I do.
Speaker 2: How did you not know? And anyways, I feel like
Speaker 2: starting this venture in my life, it's kind of taken
Speaker 2: me away from feeling like I want that baby so bad,
Speaker 2: which has been good for me. It's been healthy for
Speaker 2: me because I was in a really sad place and
Speaker 2: now I'm feeling a lot better.
Speaker 1: So you need perspective, and I also validate both of
Speaker 1: your positions. I completely understand. I don't know how old
Speaker 1: he is, but I understand not wanting to go back in.
Speaker 1: And also you have a great when you have a
Speaker 1: great child and you got it going good, I always
Speaker 1: worry about Notckwood like missing with success.
Speaker 3: Right, there's that.
Speaker 1: But second of all, like I just I'm going to
Speaker 1: say this because of the life you both have, I'm
Speaker 1: equal for both. I want you to have what you want.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this last thing to say the truth
Speaker 1: and how I feel about it is that like I
Speaker 1: can't believe I get to look at my daughter and
Speaker 1: be like, you want to come to Paris Fashion Week
Speaker 1: with me when I walk as a supermodel for Lorial
Speaker 1: at fifty four years old, or like we're going to
Speaker 1: can These are all superficial things, but they're kind of
Speaker 1: not when it's between my daughter and I because I
Speaker 1: can roll with her, like it's not a big group summit.
Speaker 1: It's called like, let's go get on the boat.
Speaker 3: We're going.
Speaker 1: I'm taking a whom I'm getting a boat.
Speaker 3: Like a yacht.
Speaker 1: I hate to say that word for just her and
Speaker 1: I because we're going to Europe. If you have another kid,
Speaker 1: you have another sport, you have another thing. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: They both have their benefits. But I'm really liking this.
Speaker 1: There's a big life change that we're making that I
Speaker 1: actually have to do on this podcast, and we're just
Speaker 1: doing it like together, almost like your little best See
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's almost like them. So I'm
Speaker 1: saying there's something to be said for not like committee.
Speaker 3: But we already had the two others. Don't forget that.
Speaker 1: But it's not the same.
Speaker 3: Yes, but they are older. They are older.
Speaker 1: They're older, and you you know you can let's just
Speaker 1: say that your your son is uh, you know, sixteen.
Speaker 1: My best friend her son and she just took him
Speaker 1: to Europe. I'm just saying, I'm not saying I'm not
Speaker 1: selling you against it. I'm just saying there are total
Speaker 1: aspects to both, So try to like meditate on them
Speaker 1: just at night instead of in a state of hysteria.
Speaker 1: Just breathe and when you're going to bed, just like
Speaker 1: work through all the scenarios and the answer will come
Speaker 1: to you. You have to do it's best for you.
Speaker 1: I just, you know, just thought that that was maybe perspective. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so wow, I could talk to you forever. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy to meet you. I didn't have to say is
Speaker 1: there anything you wanted to talk about that that I
Speaker 1: did not get to.
Speaker 3: The only thing was when I touched on it a
Speaker 3: little bit. Is my beauty line?
Speaker 2: You know, I've really put, like I put three and
Speaker 2: a half years, four years into before I launched. Launching
Speaker 2: was like a really scary thing for me, even though
Speaker 2: I have you know, I have a name, I I
Speaker 2: you know, you never know how people are going to
Speaker 2: respond to something that you've done and been working on,
Speaker 2: and so I was really scared to launch, and I
Speaker 2: launched on Valentine's Day and I sold out in two days.
Speaker 2: What yeah, where I launched just sold that way on
Speaker 2: my website, just D two C so just paid marketing,
Speaker 2: just my my promotion, my social media, and I you know,
Speaker 2: worked really hard. So that was like a really validating,
Speaker 2: really special moment for me. And then I launched two
Speaker 2: more lip glosses since then that are doing really well.
Speaker 3: And then I launch I'm launching.
Speaker 2: Oh I almost almost gave it away, but I'm launching
Speaker 2: more products in April.
Speaker 1: So well, your I was going to ask you if
Speaker 1: you did your makeup because you look like a makeup artist,
Speaker 1: like your makeup is.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad.
Speaker 1: I put some makeup on today, very little because I
Speaker 1: don't wear makeup, but I was doing something, uh and
Speaker 1: I just was like, oh no, is this girl gonna
Speaker 1: come on here and like look cute? And of course
Speaker 1: you stunning, So I was like, I got to put
Speaker 1: a little makeup on.
Speaker 3: I didn't know how to show for you. I was like,
Speaker 3: is it cozy comfies or am I looking by? Like
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I liked writing.
Speaker 2: Usually, you know, I usually take my days that I like,
Speaker 2: am looking you know better, and I'm I take it
Speaker 2: and then I go to content or I do something
Speaker 2: else with it. Stack And because like most of the
Speaker 2: you know, I like to me in my sweats and
Speaker 2: my cozy's and I prefer no makeup because I like
Speaker 2: to have clean, fresh skin. But so I'm like, I
Speaker 2: use it as like okay, let's go and like work
Speaker 2: and do something else done.
Speaker 1: Stack. Yeah, well you look amazing. Yes I did. I
Speaker 1: did make I did make a more than nothing effort,
Speaker 1: which I usually was like, she's gonna be young. And
Speaker 1: so it's so nice to meet you. Congratulations on your line.
Speaker 1: I'm so I'm so uh, I'm so happy to talk
Speaker 1: to you and excited for your future. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to hear what happens and tell your husband and your
Speaker 1: ex his ex.
Speaker 3: I say, hello, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2: I was really excited to talk with you and get
Speaker 2: to know you.