1 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: So forgive me that I don't watch the show. I 2 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: don't watch TV. I've realized I watch only like weird 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: crime dramas happening in like rainy bleak towns in Wales 4 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: or whatever. So you are still an active real estate broker. 5 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: I do real estate, but now I'm flipping houses with Taric. 6 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: So I took, you know, what I learned from real estate, 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 2: and then I learned how to flip houses on the 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: first season of our show. And after flipping, now I've 9 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: done i'd say, twenty five houses. 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: You you're saying, I feel like with you or this 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: is like yours? Okay, two of you just you do houses? 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, with our chimn have we have a team, you know, 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: I mean we have a like a bright business. So 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: but I mainly like I handled the design and no 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: I help with the flipping. But I'm still learning, you know, 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: there's continuous learning in this business. But it was it 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: was like interesting to see, like I went from learning 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: on TV which was really real, and I got a 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: lot of shit for it. It was people were so 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: mean to me. But I'm like, listen, I'm learning a craft, 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: a whole new like craft that I have to learn 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: and you guys are watching me do it, like give 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: me a little grace here. But uh, and then season 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 2: two you see like really what I learned and what 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: we put into action, And I'm proud of myself. I 26 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 2: mean I not only went from like a reality TV 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: where it's like, yeah, they give you your talking points 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: like as you know, but the scenes are the scenes. 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: And then I went into like a hosting position where 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: I'm flipping houses, but I'm on AHGTV. You're more of 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: like a host. You're having to teach people how to 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: do the things along the way and banter back and 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: forth about these things that I'm learning. And so I 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: like not only learned how to slip houses, I had 35 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: to learn how to be on a whole new TV network. 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: Like it's a very different experience than Netflix. And no, 37 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: it's less it's less mess. It's more like formatted and struck. Sure, sure, 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: then just fast and loose. Yeah, and you said twenty 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: one you've done. 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: Well, probably that twenty five at this point. 41 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: So it's funny because I don't know why I didn't 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: even think of this, which because I'm talking to you, 43 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: I have probably I have to count flipped I don't 44 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: know personally maybe six or seven places, and it was amazing. 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: It was accidental, so I never I was like late 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: thirties and I was broke, and then I made a 47 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: lot of money and bought my first place and that 48 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: I had put in I don't know, ptend, like eight 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: hundred into it, so I you know, that was that 50 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: was a big profit. And that was the first time 51 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: I ever did that. And I came from like an 52 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: Ikea design department, so I didn't realize you could put 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: in your own finishes. And that place needed a lot 54 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: of work. And every place you think needs work, it 55 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: needs a ton more. It's like it's always more because 56 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: you want to get perfection. You've gone so far. 57 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: That's me. That's me because I like luxury. 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: So I'm bringing in luxury to our flips, but at 59 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: a lower cost. But I'm someone that if I'm gonna 60 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: put my name on something, I can't just be like, 61 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: oh that's okay. 62 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 3: I want to do more. I want the ox and 63 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: wal I want the wallpaper. 64 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: I want like I'm learning, because I'm not a designer, 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: I'm learning how to design. I have a good eye, 66 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: i'd say, but you know, I don't like to call 67 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: myself a designer because I'm not. 68 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a very you know. 69 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: Get it. I'm not a designer by any stuff. You 70 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: have good takee you, but you have good taste. I 71 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: don't think it's uh. You're sort of selling yourself short 72 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: by saying like I'm not a designer, because the truth is, 73 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: designers indulge in expensive decisions without thinking about the investment 74 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: at hand. And so what's happened now as a business 75 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: person unintentionally, but it's always happening that if I'm looking 76 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: for a personal property, I'm always thinking about how it's 77 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: being designed so it's economical and not to tape specific, 78 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: so you can get out of it if you need to, 79 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: and someone else will on it. But it'd be exactly 80 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: what I want. And I'm always thinking of each place 81 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: as something that if the shit hits the fan, I 82 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: would be willing to sell or live there. Like it's 83 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: very flexible, so every place I buy has a little 84 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: bit of a transactional aspect to it in nature, even 85 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: though I'm not intentionally flipping it. I'm not a flipper. 86 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: I just have done it and done really well. So 87 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing for people at home 88 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: to know. Also, I don't ever start from scratch. I 89 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: don't like guts and I don't like perfect. I always 90 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: go in with something no one else would want to 91 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: even deal with, because that's when you get the good 92 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: deals and that's when you make the money. So anyway, 93 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: I bet that's is that how you are? 94 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we find the I mean we don't 95 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: care well what we want as is crappy at houses 96 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: because we can happier, we can we want a good deal. Yes, 97 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: oh yeah, oh yes, and it's fine, like I must say, 98 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: like real estate was, you know, it's found what you're 99 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: dealing with other people, Like this is him and I 100 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: getting down and dirty with it, doing this together, and 101 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: it's so much fun and I've learned so much. I'm 102 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: constantly still learning and I love the end result. 103 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: Like it's so fun for me. And then you know, 104 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: when you make a great profit. 105 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: We don't do like five million dollar houses, we do 106 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: you know it might be my solls like one point 107 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: to two mill. 108 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: And oh so you're doing a volley that kind of 109 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: in and out. 110 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, I mean I wish it could be in 111 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: and out, but we're permitting everything and that's like what 112 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: we you know, a lot of people get in and 113 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: now they don't permit, but we permit everything. And obviously 114 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: sometimes that can be totally yes because of the cities. 115 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: So we think we're going to get in and out 116 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: of one project, it could take over a year. So 117 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: you know, it's just it's a huge gamble, and but 118 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: we love it. But my husband does a lot of wholesaling, 119 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: so he does a lot of that where we do 120 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: the flipping together. 121 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: That's another model though, like for example, that's another version 122 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: of trickery. 123 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: I love this space. I love it. 124 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: So for example, another model, I bought a condo in 125 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: Miami and I got it for a deal because the 126 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: building is renovating and renovating their pool that I have 127 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 1: a pool, but it's on the beach, so I wouldn't 128 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: care about the pool anyway. And you always want to 129 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: look for like things like that that like you're you know, 130 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: but I knew that they were building a lot of 131 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: amazing other like high end clubs and properties right next 132 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: to it, so I was like, this is good. But 133 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: I found my I needed to get in a certain point, 134 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: and my my filter was I would do any kind 135 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: of work that didn't require a permit. And there's a 136 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: lot of trickery, like there was a disgusting tile and 137 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: to rip out the tile would have been permitted, but 138 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: like micro you know, different things like covering a vanity. 139 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: There was a bidet in the bathroom that to get 140 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: it removed what it had to be permitted and it 141 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: was like a bulky thing, and I needed a new closet, 142 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: so I created a closet and just like this covered cabinet. 143 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: So there's still a bidet in there, but it looks 144 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: like it's just like a little wall like almost like 145 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: a radiator cover. So I feel like that's so it 146 00:06:52,200 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: is so creative. What are your top three to five 147 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: things that you've learned, not meaning meaning like do this 148 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: instead of that, Like do this type of paint and 149 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: it's like Venetian plaster, Like what are your like things 150 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: that you're you know, cover a hole with a fireplace, 151 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: like with electric fireplace. Like what are things that you've 152 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: done that's like trickery that has added value and been 153 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: like fast and easy. 154 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: I'd say, like paint paint is fast, easy, cheap. So 155 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: if you are like an accent wallperson, which I love accents, 156 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: doing like wallpaper can be thousands of dollars like between 157 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: the labor and that's. 158 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: Why you like only what this is literally a room 159 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: like a box in my house that used to be 160 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: an electric room. So you notice this because this is 161 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: one wall, only two and it's literally decals, not even wallpaper. Yes, 162 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: I love an accent wall too, because if you can't 163 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: afford you to the whole room, do one wall, and 164 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: you can do really cool paint designs too. So we've 165 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: done and like you know, because not every house we 166 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: can put in wallpaper or not every A lot of 167 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: times we do, but sometimes you just don't have the 168 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: We have the budget, but does the neighborhood doesn't. 169 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: It's not for the neighborhood. 170 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: And so we'll do like really cool designs of paint 171 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: on a wall where it looks more high end and 172 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: the buyer walks into like oh oh, madam. We're trying 173 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: to like create create moments for people and where what 174 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: would I want in my house? So that's what Tark 175 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: and I always constantly thinking, like how would we want 176 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: to live in this house? What would we do if 177 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: we were owning this house and living in this house? 178 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: I always like I love. This isn't saving money, But. 179 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: I love a real fireplace too, because you know, we 180 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: can't put fireplaces in anymore. So anytime a house has 181 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: a real fireplace, I will keep fireplace that will do 182 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 2: everything I can to keep it. I think drawer pulls 183 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: are a big thing. 184 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 185 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: Changing out all the hardware in a house like it 186 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: can hard really change the freshness because people's eyes go 187 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: to the details and people forget about that stuff. That's 188 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: the stuff people don't do. They might paint the door, 189 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: but it's like just a polished synergy through a whole house. 190 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: Is that you know, true to your point? 191 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: Paint? 192 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: I think people just redoing their linens, they're betting freshens 193 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: up a house. Yeah. I think there are little things 194 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,479 Speaker 1: that make a big big Oh. One of my trickeries 195 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: is I have dogs that will pee on the corners 196 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: of things and like they are their peers. I'm an 197 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: outdoor rug indoor person, always like just decorative out I 198 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: don't even play games because I don't want to ruin 199 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: my day and get the steamer, get the people. So 200 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: I always have outdoor rugs inside. 201 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: Yep, I made a mistake because you know I came 202 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: from luxury real estate. So I like nice things I 203 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: like and I made a mistake of getting this big 204 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: silk rug in our own personal home, but I did 205 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: seal it. So I sealed all the furniture from like 206 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: the dogs and the kids, so anytime things are spilled, 207 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: it doesn't like see like go into like the drug. 208 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I did that to every. 209 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: Single piece of furniture in our house, which really helped 210 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: curb appeal. Like you can change like the outside, like 211 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: add some some plants, paint the outside of the house, 212 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: like clean up your the outdoors. 213 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: So that's what people see with the curb oppin. 214 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: Like you said, a good point and like the approach. 215 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: And if you can't do it well, do like less 216 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: like keep it clean and don't get all cluttered up 217 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: with like doing halfway with the Yeah, I love it. 218 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean this is the thing is I wouldn't want 219 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: to do it for a living because then I would 220 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: it would take away from it for me. But I've 221 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm literally doing something right now. I found it. I 222 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: find it very Uh it's satisfying because it is satisfying. 223 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: It's very satisfying because you get to have vision do 224 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: something and make it your own so I think that's 225 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: really it's great what you guys do. 226 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: It's amazing. Yeah, good for you. I mean, listen, life 227 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: as life as life. So I I feel like everyone, 228 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: you know, we have our challenges and I have, you know, 229 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: weeks where I'm not motivated. Like last week, I felt 230 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: like I'm a very motivated, driven person, but like last week, 231 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: I just didn't have it in me. 232 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I also was like not feeling well and 233 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 3: I was sick. 234 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: But you know, I said to Tark, I'm like, I'm 235 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: just not in a good place this week. 236 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: And He's like, we all go through that. Like he's 237 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: very We're really. 238 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: Good at when I'm feeling down or something's not going 239 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: right for me, He's right there to be like motivate 240 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: me and get me going again, and like it's a 241 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: or gives me space to feel it's okay to not 242 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: feel like perfect every day. It's okay to not feel 243 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: like your best every day. And you know, I think, 244 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: like I'm I am a perfectionist, so I'm hard on myself. 245 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 3: So if I'm not like and he's he's hard to 246 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 3: keep up with. 247 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: He is probably one of the most hard working people 248 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: I've ever met. In my life and he'll always say, 249 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: you don't have to keep up with me. But I think, 250 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: like when you're in like a relationship, like I'm not 251 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: going to be at the Montage every day laying out 252 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: drinking like Margarita's all day, right, Like I'm very like 253 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: a driven person. I would I want to, but I'm not. 254 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: But no, things are good. I mean, you know, we 255 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 2: go to couples therapy. We go like every other week 256 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 2: to get that was like a newer thing for us 257 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: to just learn how to communicate. Like as our relationship gets, 258 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: you know, deeper and longer and we've been together for 259 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: a longer time to talk through like certain things that 260 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: maybe it's a little uncomfortable to talk about at home 261 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: or you know, when you have the kids, Like it's 262 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: trying to find space to talk about deeper things without 263 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: like maybe getting into an argument and just kind of 264 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: learning we're different if you talking like in the ennock 265 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: in the. 266 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: Door before you get rubbed. 267 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like just why not, you know, why not 268 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: like talk about deeper things. I mean, I'm at a 269 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: place I'm thirty seven, I'm turning thirty eighth this year, 270 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: and I've really enjoyed motherhood. I've loved having a baby 271 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: of my own. It's my most favorite thing I'm doing 272 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: in my life. And he's the yummiest, sweetest boy, and 273 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: it made me want another baby, and Taric does not 274 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: want way, so we're. 275 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: Kind of dealing. 276 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: It's not like fifty percent he wants one and no, 277 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: it's like no, and that was it's really hard for me. 278 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting. That is hard for you. But I 279 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: was your age when I had my daughter, and oh, yep, 280 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: I guess how old you were, thirty seven or thirty 281 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: eight when you had I'm thirty seven right now and 282 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: I had Tristan out there thirty five. Never mind, I 283 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: was your age now when I had my daughter, and 284 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: I think I thought about maybe having another one. I 285 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: will say, it sounds like you're very driven, and it's 286 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: it's nice to like. I'm just saying because you it 287 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: sounds like you're in a great relationship and you got 288 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: it going good. And if you're going to mess up 289 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: your dynamic and have him have some resentment and I 290 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: want to go back in, that could mess up the 291 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: whole apple cart. Like in a deal, not everyone gets 292 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: what they want, and having another child is a big one, 293 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: so you'd have to really decide what's more important to 294 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: you in your life. It sounds like you have a 295 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: whole good dynamic, which is extraordinarily rare. Yeah, and I 296 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: will say that you I am surprised to be I was. 297 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: When I left The Housewives for the second time, I 298 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: was kind of retiring. I was going to do this 299 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: podcast is to play around. This doesn't take a lot, 300 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: and I could talk about tune of Fish. That doesn't 301 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: matter what I talk about. 302 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: It. 303 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: It's like nothing to do. And I kind of was 304 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: walking out of everything, and by just living honestly and 305 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: having fun and doing what I wanted to, I ended 306 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: up cracking open a career much bigger than my other career, 307 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: like drastically exponentially. And remember I was on the cover 308 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: of Forbes magazine and making millions of dollars years ago 309 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: on The Housewives, and you know, like made a lot 310 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: of money on Skinner Ger. I'm doing much bigger than 311 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: I was then, And this is like playing with the 312 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: house is money. Now I'm in my fifties and it's crazy. 313 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, you could have a whole other 314 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: chapter depending upout what your personal priorities are is money 315 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: and success is certainly not everything. But it's not really 316 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: about money at all. It's about like fulfillment and me 317 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: realizing Wait a second, Like I now, when you say 318 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: your age, you think you're old, Like I, I can't 319 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: believe how young you are, like young young, because I 320 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: still go out on dates and have guys think I'm 321 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: hot and get which you are on the thank you 322 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: and get flown around the world and get brand deals 323 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: with twenty two year old. Yeah, so I'm saying it's 324 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: longer journey than you think. So I'm just saying you 325 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: never like you might let the cards be what they're 326 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: supposed to be. I'm in fight for what you want 327 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: an advocate. 328 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: You have this personality like your TikTok is just so good, 329 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: and you've you're doing something that like TikTok, I feel 330 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: like was so structured. Before it was like you know, 331 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: and now like I feel like you go on and 332 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: you just talk. 333 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: About it's like a podcast. 334 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: I feel like for you, and I feel like it's 335 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: people are getting to know you on Like I've gotten 336 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: to know you from your TikTok on a level that 337 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: I never knew you before. I knew you from you know, 338 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: the Housewives and uh, the Margarita and like everything you did, 339 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: and but now I'm like, wow. 340 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: And you're so good. 341 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: You do it gracially, yeah, but you're your grace full 342 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: with that, which I think is like, it's so rare 343 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: to be so cute and so graceful at the same time. 344 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna cry because I I you just talking 345 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: to you. I just realized that. Like I've said this intellectually, 346 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: but the thing is years ago. I remember going on 347 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: the Apprentice of my best friends being like, wait a second, 348 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: but why didn't they show you being funny. I'm like, 349 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: because that's not what the show is about. The show 350 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: was about the task at hand, Like they want to 351 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: know who's winning the task, who's losing, and who I'm 352 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: fighting with. Then I'm on the house. It's the reality show. 353 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: They're like, but wait, that's not even you. Why you 354 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: have any these arguments, I'm like, because that's what the 355 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: show is about. It's by trashing other women and covering 356 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: and frosting and doing a charity event pretending we're women 357 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: supporting women. That's so finally, like, there's no vehicle like that. 358 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: Then you do another show that's now it's money Court formatted, 359 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: but now you're stuck in a box and you're talking 360 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: about so there was I just found the place where 361 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: I always wanted to be because I'm insane, I'm wacky, 362 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't care what I look like. I'm 363 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: not vain like all of it's real. So finally I 364 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: found the reality show that I don't have to sit 365 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: in a conference room to decide someone to decide what 366 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be doing, and then edited, and six 367 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: months later, I'm doing a press tour feeling like I 368 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: have a leash on my neck. I'm not that girl. Yeah, 369 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: this is who I am. I'm a crazy lady with 370 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: my pajamas on eating chicken salad. So I love it. 371 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: I found my universe. So I'm saying to you that 372 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: bringing it back to you is that you're on a journey. 373 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: You're in the process. First of all, you could still 374 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: have kids in five years. I mean it sounds like 375 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: you couldn't to you, but you definitely could. And let 376 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: the journey. You know, stick to what you want for yourself, 377 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: but think about the whole big picture because you just 378 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: don't know what you'll be doing in fifteen years and 379 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: having kids is a lot of responsibility. 380 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: I know. 381 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: I think that's where, you know, my baby's two years 382 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: old now, and I really feel so I launched a 383 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: beauty line on Valentine's Day and that kind of case, 384 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 2: I was in, like a really really sad place when 385 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 2: he was like, it's a hard no for me, and 386 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: you know, we kind of went back and forth, and 387 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: I think for him it was like it's so easy 388 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: to say no, but then I'm a whole different person 389 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: where it's like I really love being a mom so 390 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 2: much I want another one, and it was hard for me. 391 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: It was just hard. It was it was tough. It's 392 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: harder for you. I was dying a lot. I was very. 393 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: Emotional, very emotional, and then I launched How the Essentials, 394 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: and it kind of took over a big part of 395 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: my life where it kind of felt like it filled 396 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: a void for me maybe where you know, I wanted 397 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: another baby so bad. And then I launched How the 398 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: Essentials and that took over and it's still it's taking 399 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: over so much of my life that I haven't you know, 400 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: I was thinking every day about a baby every day, 401 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: every day, every day, and I was talking to process it. Yeah, 402 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: but when I wasn't talking to my husband about it, 403 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 2: I wasn't like I want a baby. 404 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: I want a baby. 405 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: So when I was like, I want a baby's like 406 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: you do? Like I didn't like, yes, of course I do. 407 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: How did you not know? And anyways, I feel like 408 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: starting this venture in my life, it's kind of taken 409 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: me away from feeling like I want that baby so bad, 410 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: which has been good for me. It's been healthy for 411 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: me because I was in a really sad place and 412 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: now I'm feeling a lot better. 413 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: So you need perspective, and I also validate both of 414 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: your positions. I completely understand. I don't know how old 415 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: he is, but I understand not wanting to go back in. 416 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: And also you have a great when you have a 417 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: great child and you got it going good, I always 418 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: worry about Notckwood like missing with success. 419 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: Right, there's that. 420 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: But second of all, like I just I'm going to 421 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: say this because of the life you both have, I'm 422 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: equal for both. I want you to have what you want. 423 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying this last thing to say the truth 424 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: and how I feel about it is that like I 425 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: can't believe I get to look at my daughter and 426 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: be like, you want to come to Paris Fashion Week 427 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: with me when I walk as a supermodel for Lorial 428 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: at fifty four years old, or like we're going to 429 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: can These are all superficial things, but they're kind of 430 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: not when it's between my daughter and I because I 431 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: can roll with her, like it's not a big group summit. 432 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: It's called like, let's go get on the boat. 433 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: We're going. 434 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm taking a whom I'm getting a boat. 435 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 3: Like a yacht. 436 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: I hate to say that word for just her and 437 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: I because we're going to Europe. If you have another kid, 438 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: you have another sport, you have another thing. I'm just saying. 439 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: They both have their benefits. But I'm really liking this. 440 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: There's a big life change that we're making that I 441 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: actually have to do on this podcast, and we're just 442 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: doing it like together, almost like your little best See 443 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's almost like them. So I'm 444 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: saying there's something to be said for not like committee. 445 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: But we already had the two others. Don't forget that. 446 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: But it's not the same. 447 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: Yes, but they are older. They are older. 448 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: They're older, and you you know you can let's just 449 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: say that your your son is uh, you know, sixteen. 450 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 1: My best friend her son and she just took him 451 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: to Europe. I'm just saying, I'm not saying I'm not 452 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: selling you against it. I'm just saying there are total 453 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: aspects to both, So try to like meditate on them 454 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: just at night instead of in a state of hysteria. 455 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: Just breathe and when you're going to bed, just like 456 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: work through all the scenarios and the answer will come 457 00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: to you. You have to do it's best for you. 458 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: I just, you know, just thought that that was maybe perspective. Yeah, 459 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: so wow, I could talk to you forever. I'm so 460 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: happy to meet you. I didn't have to say is 461 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: there anything you wanted to talk about that that I 462 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: did not get to. 463 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 3: The only thing was when I touched on it a 464 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: little bit. Is my beauty line? 465 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: You know, I've really put, like I put three and 466 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: a half years, four years into before I launched. Launching 467 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: was like a really scary thing for me, even though 468 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: I have you know, I have a name, I I 469 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: you know, you never know how people are going to 470 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 2: respond to something that you've done and been working on, 471 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: and so I was really scared to launch, and I 472 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: launched on Valentine's Day and I sold out in two days. 473 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: What yeah, where I launched just sold that way on 474 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: my website, just D two C so just paid marketing, 475 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: just my my promotion, my social media, and I you know, 476 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: worked really hard. So that was like a really validating, 477 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: really special moment for me. And then I launched two 478 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: more lip glosses since then that are doing really well. 479 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: And then I launch I'm launching. 480 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: Oh I almost almost gave it away, but I'm launching 481 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 2: more products in April. 482 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: So well, your I was going to ask you if 483 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: you did your makeup because you look like a makeup artist, 484 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: like your makeup is. 485 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: I'm so glad. 486 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: I put some makeup on today, very little because I 487 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: don't wear makeup, but I was doing something, uh and 488 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: I just was like, oh no, is this girl gonna 489 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: come on here and like look cute? And of course 490 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: you stunning, So I was like, I got to put 491 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: a little makeup on. 492 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 3: I didn't know how to show for you. I was like, 493 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: is it cozy comfies or am I looking by? Like 494 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 495 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 2: No. 496 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: I liked writing. 497 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: Usually, you know, I usually take my days that I like, 498 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: am looking you know better, and I'm I take it 499 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: and then I go to content or I do something 500 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: else with it. Stack And because like most of the 501 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: you know, I like to me in my sweats and 502 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 2: my cozy's and I prefer no makeup because I like 503 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: to have clean, fresh skin. But so I'm like, I 504 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 2: use it as like okay, let's go and like work 505 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: and do something else done. 506 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: Stack. Yeah, well you look amazing. Yes I did. I 507 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: did make I did make a more than nothing effort, 508 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: which I usually was like, she's gonna be young. And 509 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: so it's so nice to meet you. Congratulations on your line. 510 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm so I'm so uh, I'm so happy to talk 511 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: to you and excited for your future. I can't wait 512 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: to hear what happens and tell your husband and your 513 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: ex his ex. 514 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 3: I say, hello, thanks for having me on. 515 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: I was really excited to talk with you and get 516 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: to know you.