WEBVTT - 01/06/22 DPS Best Of 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.360 Sports Radio. Chris Mannocks from Sports Illustrated Joints is on 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:10.480 the program. How do you think this plays out? Was Zion? Yeah, 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:14.680 as far as this year, we certainly are trending in 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.960 that direction. The latest news about Zion doesn't really give 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:21.759 you much reason to be optimistic. He's going to be 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.640 backstay before the All Star break. And if you get 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:27.840 past the All Star break and the Pelicans are still 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:30.680 in a situation where they are at or near the 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:34.040 bottom of the Western Conference, you start to wonder what's 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:35.840 the point. I mean, if you want to add more 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.599 talent around Zion, why not let him sit out this 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.199 entire year and you know, add something for next year. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:47.800 But longer term, it is curious. I mean, it's not unprecedented, Dan, 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:52.560 to have a player with a long term injury work 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.160 out away from a team. That happens in basketball and 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:00.400 I'm sure in other sports. But there's just the always 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:04.800 been kind of this unease, perhaps I don't know how 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.319 I also want to phrase, but some tenuousness between Zion 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.160 and the Pelicans. So when you hear he's going to 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.360 be rehabbing in porth And Oregon on the other side 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.200 of the country away from this team, and the Pelicans 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.880 quick to point out in that release, you'll be doing 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.080 it under their medical supervision. You have to wonder kind 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.679 of what exactly is going on between these two who 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:31.880 plays first, Zion or Ben Simmons. I still think Ben 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:37.040 Simmons will get moved before the trade deadline. If he's not, somehow, 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:41.040 some way, you'll find his way back into the Philadelphia lineup. Now. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.680 You know, there were some reports over Christmas about attraction 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.440 between Simmons or the Sixers and other teams and bobbing Simmons. 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.720 I haven't heard much of that lately. The Sixers are 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:55.760 still holding out for a significant offer that includes, you know, 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:59.080 all star level talents that can help them this year, 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.440 and teams around the lead at least at this point, 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:03.520 are not willing to offer it. I think you're going 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.680 to see this go all the way up until the 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.480 February trade deadline, because I don't think the six are 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.120 getting the kind of offers that they're looking for, and 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.520 they won't get those kind of offers until we get 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:20.760 right up against that deadline. I was watching Kyrie last night, 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.640 and I've never had any doubts about his talent, you know, 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:25.920 I have doubts about some of the things that he 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:30.919 believes in. But here he is on display and he 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:35.280 looks spectacular last night. What do you think the status 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.960 is going to be the rest of this season? You know, 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:41.400 if he's just a road player, and if you're the Nets, 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.600 do you want a fifth seed or a sixth seed 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.560 where you're playing more road games in the playoffs than 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.520 you would if you're a top four seed. Well as 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.640 far as seeding goes, And I've kind of had sort 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:58.919 of casual conversation people in Brooklyn about that that's not 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.040 a variable. I mean they One of the responses I 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:05.040 get is that who says we can't win in six games? 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:09.799 Like they believe that these three guys have enough talent 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.520 for them, you know, not to be forced into that 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.240 seven game situation. You look at it, I mean, Kyrie 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.400 was brilliant, as you said last night, twenty two points, 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.960 shot better than fifty percent from the floor in his 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:24.239 first game that he's played competitively in many months at 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.560 this point. And if you go back to last season, 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.280 I mean the offensive rating for Kyrie, James Hard and 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.240 Kevin Durant in the two hundred and two minutes they 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.120 played was about one hundred and nineteen in the playoffs. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.080 That number spiked to an absurd one hundred and thirty 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.920 in limited minutes that they played together in the post seeds. 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:46.200 So they are great offensively together. I think, Look, the 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.760 nets are going to keep him around. They're going to 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.320 keep him in the practice facility, keep him going as 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.040 a part time player because they don't know I mean 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:58.760 Dan by this time tomorrow. Would it surprise you if 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.520 Kyrie just got vaccinated, Like his vaccination is going to 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.520 happen without any fanfare. He's probably gonna walk into a 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.160 Walgreens and just get vaccinated on a whim, like so 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.400 that you know. Kyrie didn't dismiss that possibility during his 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.000 interviews last night, So that's out there. Also out there 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.520 is the possibility that the New York City mayor, the 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.680 new mayor, Eric Adams could tweak this mandate. Now this 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:28.120 isn't an argument about vax or anti vax Dan, but 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.760 the New York City mandate is ridiculous. The fact that 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:36.360 Kyrie Irving can't play, but the three percent of other 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.839 NBA players who are un vaccinated can come into Barclay's 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.680 center and play is absurd. So if I'm the Nets, 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.520 in addition to kind of crossing our fingers and hoping 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.760 James Harden and Kevin Durant can convince Kyrie Irving to 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.760 get vaccinated or Kyrie can do it on his own, 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.159 I'm kind of lobbying city Hall and saying, look, you know, 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.960 if you want to make this vaccine mandate, that's fine. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.599 We believe in public health too, but make it fair 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.680 across the board. If unvaccinated players are coming in here 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:09.480 who presumably posed the exact same health risk as Kyrie Irving, 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.840 they shouldn't be allowed to play either. We're talking to 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:17.480 Chris Mannix Sports Illustrated NBA senior writer Clay Thompson coming back. 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:22.760 It looks like their pinpointing Sunday. His addition means what 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:27.080 for this team this year? I mean, even if it's 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.839 seventy five eighty percent of the Clay Thompson we're used to, 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.920 it's enormous. And you know when I talk to people 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.000 in and around Golden State, all you hear is how 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.880 great he looks, and you know how patient they have 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.440 been with him, kind of trying to work him back 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.080 to being as close to game shape as possible. Now. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.359 The things to watch for with Clay Thompson earlier not 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:50.960 going to be the three point shot like he has 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.160 been working on that shot. You know, he's been able 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.480 to do that for weeks and weeks, if not months now. 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:00.720 Clay what made him a great all around layer or 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.320 two other fast to his game. One he was able 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.800 to use the threat of the three point shot to 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.880 ball fake, get to the basket, pull up from mid range. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:13.080 Does he have that same spring on that move to 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:16.200 the basket. That's the first one. And defensively, Clay was 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.080 a high level defensive guy, you know for most of 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.679 his years and the Warriors I think right now top 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:26.160 two in the NBA and defensive efficiency. Is he that 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:30.320 same type of guy If he's again of what he 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.520 once was, I mean, they're basically getting back an All 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.720 Star ish level player. If he's lost a little bit 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.560 and can't get that back, at least not this season, 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.400 that's something Golden State will have to adjust to. I'm 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:46.200 federally mandated to ask you about Lebron James and the Lakers. 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.760 Lebron's been playing great, but I don't think he can 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:54.839 play great enough though your assessment of the Lakers now 0:06:54.920 --> 0:07:02.000 we're into January, it's you're hard pressed to find or 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.800 to look for a pathway that sees them making a 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:08.039 deep run in the playoffs right now. You know, the 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.960 Lakers are active out there on the trademark, and I 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.160 had one GM say to me two nights ago, it's like, 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.880 you know, why do we keep hearing about the type 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:21.560 of players the Lakers can acquire for this Taylor Horton, Tucker, 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.960 Kendrick Nunn first round draft pick, kind of poo poo 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:29.040 platter that is being sort of floated out there as 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:33.080 as a possibility. Yeah, Horton Tucker is an appealing prospect, 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:36.080 But if you're looking at some of the top names 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.480 that are out there, whether it's Jeremy Grant in Detroit, 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.200 maybe Christian Wood down at Houston, those teams are gonna 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:47.280 have better offers for the Lakers. I think for LA, 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:51.880 their only hope for I guess salvation this season is 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.640 if Anthony Davis comes off this injury and gets back 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.240 to looking like the bubble Anthony Davis. We haven't seen 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:02.000 that player dan in you know, over a year now. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:03.560 I mean, he was pretty good last year and You 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.280 could certainly make the argument that if he doesn't get 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.520 hurt in the first round, Lakers are in the finals 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.960 last season, but he has not been the same player 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.640 this year. His perimeter shooting has fallen off a cliff. Look, 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.920 he's got to be there full time five, and he 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.560 has got to be a highly effective full time five. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.120 DeAndre Jordan really doesn't have a lot left. Dwight Howard 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.040 really doesn't have a lot left. I mean, I know 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.880 we're kind of getting excited about this Lebron James as 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.160 a five kind of option, but that's not gonna work 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.320 long term, especially now when you go up against bigger 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.280 teams in the postseason, the Lakers. Whenever Anthony Davis comes back, 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.400 he has got to be a top five player in 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:43.280 the NBA, and I'm not sure based on what I've 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.280 seen this season that he has that in it. Great 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.199 to talk to you again, Chris, Thanks for joining us. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.840 Not bad for the least valuable guest of twenty twenty one. 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.440 You heard about that, huh. I was set that clip 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:00.040 by no fewer than three people. But you're in a 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:06.080 award winner. It's not like a Razzie kind of kind 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.600 of and you know, I didn't vote. I did not 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.839 vote on the least valuable guest. But we love having 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.920 you on. All right, I've I've now signed an exclusive 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.439 deal with Maggie and Perlop, So talking you're leaving, You're 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:23.200 gonna join mcclevin. Okay, good luck with that. Good luck 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.400 with that. This might be the last time we see 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:27.880 or here from Chris Mannix. Thanks for listening to The 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.440 Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.920 every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:37.080 nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 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That's like the first 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:28.800 thing I learned in college is that whether it's conscious 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:33.160 or subconscious, everybody has an inherent bias. I mean, hub 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.800 Arkish just kind of said the quiet part out loud. 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.360 I know for a fact certain guys that don't vote 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.040 for guys for the Hall of Fame the first year 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.840 because they don't like them because they were jerks, and 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:47.640 they don't want them to get in on the first ballot. 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:49.520 They don't want them to get in at all. So 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.800 this kind of stuff happens a lot more than any 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.040 of us realize. And I'm not going to get all 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.640 up in arms about hub Arkish because, to be honest, Dan, 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.440 in my opinion, he really just said what's already been 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:08.040 going on. It already happens for years. But has Aaron 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:14.400 Rodgers been detrimental to his team in any way? Well? Yeah, 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.600 I mean he missed a game. He missed a game, 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.560 and it could have been a very costly game, a 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:22.000 very important game. They probably win that game in Kansas 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.760 City against the Chiefs if Aaron Rodgers plays, I personally 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:29.960 think that is one knock against him for the MVP. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.000 I hear a lot people say, well that Chiefs game 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.160 proved how valuable he was. That Chiefs game proved that 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.240 he's the MVP. Wait a minute, wait, I don't think 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.400 it should help you or your case for the MVP 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.960 if you miss one. There's only seventeen of them and 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:46.760 you miss one. Thing about what that would have meant 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.480 for a baseball player, a basketball player, and how your 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.800 backup does when you don't play should not have an 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:58.439 impact on MVP. Look, I'm pretty confident Dan, if Brady 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.120 didn't play, that playing gap would stink up the joint? 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:02.600 Is that what we need? Do we need Brady sit 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.840 out a game and have Gabrit go out there and 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.400 play bad to see how valuable Brady is. I think 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.720 it's funny. Look, I think Aaron Rodgers has a great 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:15.920 argument for being MVP. He probably is. I don't blame 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:20.400 anybody of the votes for him. But Brady has more touchdowns, 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:26.000 more completions, more yards. They've got one less win. He's 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.000 had guys banged up too, He's had guys get hurt 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:31.680 and not play. I just think it's funny. What happened 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:35.480 is Brady got shut out by the Saints. Rogers hasn't 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.240 had any bad games down the stretch. You know, these 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:42.160 awards turn into like what happens the last four weeks 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.360 when I'm actually paying attention, Oh, Brady got shot by 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.600 It's like when he got shut out by the Saint Stand. 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.760 It's like they turned the light off on the Brady MVP. 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.720 Can't like just he's done. Shut it off over, Let's 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.720 move on to the Jonathan Taylor well put. I was 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:02.319 also wondering about this. That feels like, once again, this 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:06.040 is fluid. It's like week to week. Aaron Rodgers might 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:10.040 realize how good he has it in Green Bay because 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.520 he might not like the front office. But the front 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.960 office is very good at drafting players. They may not 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.400 have drafted the right player with Jordan Love, but you 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:23.480 play the Bears, the Lions, and the Vikings, you have 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:28.160 six games against them. Why would you want to leave that? 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.199 Like you want to go to Denver? Whatever it is. 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:38.120 I keep coming back to. Green Bay still has offensive line, 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.679 the defense is you know, one of the top five. 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:44.280 You're getting star players back. You got Davante Adams there. 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.160 What is it that he's going to that's going to 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.880 be so much better than Green Bay? Yeah, I think 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.360 a lot of things have happened and will happen over 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.800 the next few weeks. That will affect his mindset there. 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:02.360 I think the Roethlisberger send off had an impact on him. 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.120 I mean, how could it not, right. I think that 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.800 is something that he will factor in. I think the 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:13.480 fact that its meaning, the meaning, the embracement of the fans, 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.720 and that cal Ripken Victory lap is that that's what 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.200 you mean, it'll have an impact on Rogers. Yeah, I 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.040 mean I think it would be. It would be a 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:25.160 little bit unnatural to look at that and not think 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.320 I would want that, Like, I mean, I was obviously 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:32.280 a seven year journeyman. Oh lineman, so but I watched 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.680 that and been like, man, that must be awesome, Like 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:38.080 that must be really really cool, and you know, if 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.720 you leave to go to another team, you never really 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:44.200 get that. I do think he realizes how good the 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.680 team is in Green Bay. It does appear as if, 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.400 you know, he just wanted to say, he just wanted 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.920 to say, and when they went out and got Randall 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:56.520 Cobb and some other things they've done there, they've given 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.760 him that say, so he's kind of got what he 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:04.200 wanted that said. Then if they lose in the playoffs, again, 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:09.360 and it's a special teams issue or defense, maybe he'll 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.520 still want to leave. What I find interesting is the 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.040 Jordan Love component of it, because a lot of people 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.720 always thought that this would be the offseason that the 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.840 Packers trade Aaron Rodgers. But if you win the MVP 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.760 again or maybe they win the Super Bowl, they can't 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.280 trade him. I mean, they're not gonna want to trade him. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.880 It might be time for Jordan Love to go somewhere else. 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:36.840 Antonio Brown situation, I said, you know what, everybody got 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:40.000 what they deserved here that they did win a Super Bowl. 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.360 You were playing with fire. He's burnt down buildings and 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.960 three other stops here and he's doing the same thing 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:49.000 in Tampa Bay. Now, I have to look at both sides. 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:52.200 As much as I love Bruce arians I think Bruce's 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.200 being disingenuous when he says he didn't know about Antonio 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:00.000 Brown's ankle injury. The guy was limited in practice, didn't 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.840 practice a couple of days, he was questionable for the game, 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.760 and I don't know if he checked out of that game. 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.280 There was a moment where I thought Brady walking down 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.440 the bench and you could see where Antonio Brown had 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.840 his arms up on the bench and it looked like 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:17.600 he had basically checked out of the game before he 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.680 kind of lit the fuse here. So I don't know 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.200 how this plays out. He said that he was told that, 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.120 you know, hey, you got to get shot up with 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.160 a dangerous drug here. I don't think you spend a 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.320 decade in the NFL and you don't know about torridall. 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:39.920 But is Antonio Do you think he has a case 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:43.360 here against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that he can get paid, 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:47.680 get released, and maybe play with somebody else. Well, that's 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.840 certainly what he's trying to do. I got a bunch 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.960 of thoughts on this. Then, you know, first of all, 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:57.960 one of his main problems is Antonio Brown has lost 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.480 the benefit of the doubt. Yeah right, I mean, there 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.240 have been so many things over the last three years 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.720 that even with these text messages he's sending out, even 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:13.240 if he's one hundred percent right in this situation, I 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.040 think he'll have a tough time in the court of 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.720 public opinion because of a couple of different things. Number One, 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.320 everything's tapping up until this point. But also, Dan, I've 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.280 seen guys with bad ankles. I've seen guys with ankle 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:29.200 sprains whatever. They're not exiting like he exited that game. 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.119 They're not jumping up and down in the end zone 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.240 like like if you have an ankle injury, that ankle's 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.440 bothering you and you're limping on it. He didn't show 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.399 any limp or anything in the end zone, which I 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:46.199 think also hurts his cause. And here's the last name, 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.119 which I think is the most important. I played for 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:55.640 five teams. Dan. There are some guys who don't play 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.480 or try not to play because of injury, but it's 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:03.360 really more mental than physical, if that makes sense. Like, yeah, 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.320 they have an injury, but what's preventing them from actually 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.720 going out there is what they're thinking in their head 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:15.159 about the injury as opposed to the physical malady itself. 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:16.560 I had a guy one time. I'm not going to 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:20.520 embarrass him, but this guy was a high pick. He 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:22.680 would do whatever it took to try to not play 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.320 in the game. I mean there were times where I 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:29.560 can remember the head coach flipping out on the orthopedic 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.160 surgeon because all of a sudden the guy didn't wasn't 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.320 gonna play that day and he was supposed to be 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.879 practiced that week. I remember one time we were playing it. 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:42.280 We're playing in San Francisco and they did fireworks before 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:46.040 the game and we're all standing there and then it's foggy. 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.640 It was Candlestick. There's a little bit of fog there. 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:50.800 All of a sudden, we're about to go out there 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:55.520 Dan for the first series and the same guy is like, oh, oh, 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:59.119 my eyes, the fireworks got in my eyes. Like I 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.479 can't play. I'm not I swear to God. And the 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:07.480 trainers gave mishelmet, they lift, they helped him off the 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.000 bench and they're like, you're fine, go out there. You're fine, 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.800 Like they like pushed him out there, like he did 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.880 not want to. I mean, we were all we were laughing, 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:19.480 but that that was him. So I think how we 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:24.840 can balance Aran side and Antonio brown Side is that 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.440 he did have an ankle issue. By the way, everybody 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.600 playing at this point in the season has an issue. 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.840 Everybody has at least one thing bothering them. I can 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.400 assure you otherwise, what have you been doing the whole time? 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:42.200 And I think arians thought it was Antonio brown mentally 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:47.120 not going back out there as opposed to because of 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:51.080 the ankle. And I think with Antonio Brown's history. I 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:55.919 can totally understand why arians felt that way. Talking to 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:59.400 Ross Tucker, the host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast, 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:03.000 he is going to take part in the National championship 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.440 game between Montana State and North Dakota State. I love 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:10.040 that and that will be noon on Saturday on Westwood One. 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.440 He's got the Chargers Raiders game on Sunday night, also 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:16.959 on Westwood One. Paulie, how many times did Ron Stucker 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.240 play in San Francisco? Well, you'd think a lot with 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.440 the long career. I got you his one road game 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:24.800 in San Francisco, Ross in two thousand and four with 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:30.280 the Buffalo Bills. I was on the team for Washington 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.760 in two thousand and two when we played out there 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.560 as well, But I don't think I think that was 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:39.960 the first game of my career. I was inactive. However, 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:44.159 you don't know whether or not that was the firework 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:50.840 game or not. So the okay, can we guess the 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:54.879 player who didn't want to play because he had smoke 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:59.920 in his eyes? Um, look, you could probably google it. 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:02.119 I don't know. I don't know if that story has 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:06.119 ever been told, but it was. It was hilarious. Paulie, 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.520 can you guess is the I team on this? The player? 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.520 Is it a good player, a really good player, or 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:15.679 a role He was a high pick? Ross said he 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:20.080 was a high draft pick. There's names like Takeo Spikes. 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:24.800 Don't know. It's a wide receiver. Oh a wide receiver? 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:29.320 Is that? I didn't say it was a didn't know? Okay, 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:33.080 that's not Eric Molt. You guys are so good at this. 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:35.520 You guys always try to get I don't look, I 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:37.840 don't want to embarrass the guy. He hasn't played for 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:41.080 a while. He was a nice guy. Uh, he was 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:45.200 really into video games. I'm sure he's got a great life. Now, 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:48.240 I don't I don't want to embarrass him any further. 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.320 I probably talked about him on other shows before. What 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.360 what has what does playing video games have to do 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:58.479 with this? He's a good guy, plays video games. Um, 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:02.960 he was more in tense about playing video games in 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:06.399 the players lounge that he was on the field. And 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:10.760 that is a fact. Okay, he got more animated playing 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:15.000 Halo in the players lounge than he ever did on 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.719 the field. Ever. Oh that's so good. I like how 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:19.719 you don't want to embarrass the guy talk about him, 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:22.399 but now you keep adding more layers to this, Paulie. 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:28.440 It wasn't Lee Evans, was it. I'm not saying. I'm 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:31.840 not saying. I'm not saying because it just by the way, 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:35.480 it's better. It's like the whole Franco Harris immaculate reception. Yeah, 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:45.440 not quite the same, Not not quite. But it'll make 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.040 the story go on longer, and you guys will spend 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:50.439 more time trying to figure out who it is if 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:52.320 I don't tell you who it is, all right, Charger's 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:55.200 Raiders final game of the regular season, and that will 0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:59.199 come down to what in this game. Yeah, I think 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:02.200 it'll come down to the last drive. And I gotta 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:05.800 be honestly, I kind of give the benefit of the 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:09.119 doubt there to the Raiders. Yeah, the Raiders have one. 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:10.960