1 00:00:05,046 --> 00:00:08,046 Speaker 1: A Huddle is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:08,086 --> 00:00:20,966 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio or look at that. What's good? Everybody, Welcome 3 00:00:21,566 --> 00:00:26,126 Speaker 1: to another episode of the l Huddle podcast. Will Solve 4 00:00:26,166 --> 00:00:35,246 Speaker 1: alongside me ermana MJ cost out Ruis oh Man, Well, 5 00:00:35,286 --> 00:00:37,486 Speaker 1: I doesn't feel like we've been doing this podcast now 6 00:00:37,566 --> 00:00:40,446 Speaker 1: for like fifteen years. It's been in fifteen weeks. I 7 00:00:40,446 --> 00:00:44,046 Speaker 1: don't know. Is that an indictment on me on if 8 00:00:44,086 --> 00:00:46,446 Speaker 1: it feels good? Like I feel like we've been in 9 00:00:46,526 --> 00:00:49,966 Speaker 1: this group now right like family reunion every week. I 10 00:00:50,046 --> 00:00:53,166 Speaker 1: love this for us. I do as well. It has 11 00:00:53,206 --> 00:00:56,086 Speaker 1: been an absolute blast, and it's also been a blast 12 00:00:56,166 --> 00:00:59,246 Speaker 1: to cover all the different topics that we've had over 13 00:00:59,326 --> 00:01:03,126 Speaker 1: these past several weeks. And imagine yourself, m J. That 14 00:01:03,286 --> 00:01:08,926 Speaker 1: you're just take a leisurely stroll as the waves are 15 00:01:09,126 --> 00:01:15,686 Speaker 1: crashing background and you're just walking along the sand, and 16 00:01:15,886 --> 00:01:18,566 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you see this older, good looking 17 00:01:18,686 --> 00:01:23,006 Speaker 1: gentleman who's hunched over and he's talking into his cell phone, 18 00:01:23,486 --> 00:01:27,566 Speaker 1: and this is what we get. Good morning, guys. I'll 19 00:01:27,606 --> 00:01:32,486 Speaker 1: get to the point right away. I'm retiring for good. 20 00:01:33,886 --> 00:01:36,806 Speaker 1: I know the process was a pretty big deal last time. 21 00:01:36,846 --> 00:01:39,086 Speaker 1: So when I woke up this morning, I figured I 22 00:01:39,246 --> 00:01:42,286 Speaker 1: just press record and let you guys know first, so 23 00:01:43,326 --> 00:01:45,846 Speaker 1: I won't be long winded like you only get one 24 00:01:45,966 --> 00:01:50,206 Speaker 1: super emotional retirement essay and I use my nut last year. 25 00:01:50,326 --> 00:01:54,286 Speaker 1: So really, thank you guys so much, to every single 26 00:01:54,326 --> 00:01:59,966 Speaker 1: one of you for supporting me, my family, my friends, 27 00:02:00,246 --> 00:02:05,686 Speaker 1: my teammates, my competitors. I could go on forever. There's 28 00:02:05,686 --> 00:02:09,166 Speaker 1: too many. Um, thank you guys for allowing me to 29 00:02:09,246 --> 00:02:15,646 Speaker 1: live my absolute dream. I wouldn't change the thing you 30 00:02:15,726 --> 00:02:19,766 Speaker 1: all he almost got me. Well, yeah, we love you too, Tom. 31 00:02:20,126 --> 00:02:23,126 Speaker 1: Tom is also doing things with a calm app I 32 00:02:23,126 --> 00:02:25,086 Speaker 1: don't know if you knew that. M Oh my god, 33 00:02:25,206 --> 00:02:29,166 Speaker 1: that's what he was doing out there. So Tom Brady 34 00:02:29,326 --> 00:02:32,326 Speaker 1: retiring this time for good? What did you think of 35 00:02:32,366 --> 00:02:34,406 Speaker 1: the message? What'd you think of the fact that this 36 00:02:34,646 --> 00:02:38,166 Speaker 1: is actually legitimately happening. Um, you know me, I have 37 00:02:38,286 --> 00:02:41,566 Speaker 1: trust issues, so I don't know that I believe it, 38 00:02:41,726 --> 00:02:45,286 Speaker 1: believe it, but um, I think a little skeptical, a 39 00:02:45,406 --> 00:02:47,486 Speaker 1: little skeptical. But you know what, at this point, we 40 00:02:47,606 --> 00:02:51,726 Speaker 1: have we have explored every single possibility. I mean literally, 41 00:02:51,846 --> 00:02:55,086 Speaker 1: the day before he released this video, we were talking 42 00:02:55,126 --> 00:02:57,046 Speaker 1: about on Total Access I'm like, oh, how cool would 43 00:02:57,046 --> 00:02:58,966 Speaker 1: it be if he went to the Niners, the team 44 00:02:59,046 --> 00:03:03,566 Speaker 1: he loved as a kid, Baba. Because upon his unretirement, 45 00:03:04,526 --> 00:03:06,806 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, he really still has a 46 00:03:06,846 --> 00:03:08,406 Speaker 1: lot left in the tank. So he's probably going to 47 00:03:08,446 --> 00:03:11,246 Speaker 1: be around until he's fifty years old. So this little 48 00:03:11,606 --> 00:03:13,846 Speaker 1: cat and mouse game that we're playing here, Tom, I'm 49 00:03:13,886 --> 00:03:22,206 Speaker 1: glad that you've you've stopped it here, Thomas Edward Patrick Brady, Um, 50 00:03:22,446 --> 00:03:24,246 Speaker 1: I love this for him, you know. I mean, he 51 00:03:24,326 --> 00:03:27,086 Speaker 1: gave us a bonus season. Um, if this is the end. 52 00:03:27,166 --> 00:03:29,046 Speaker 1: If it isn't, I think that's all part of the 53 00:03:29,406 --> 00:03:32,406 Speaker 1: Tom Brady mystique. At this point. Um, I don't know 54 00:03:32,526 --> 00:03:34,846 Speaker 1: how much more fanfare we could do for you, Tom. 55 00:03:34,926 --> 00:03:36,766 Speaker 1: So if you do want to retire, just keep that 56 00:03:36,886 --> 00:03:39,486 Speaker 1: in mind. You've used up all of the chances, all 57 00:03:39,526 --> 00:03:42,086 Speaker 1: of them we're getting for clemps. Like, I'm not I'm 58 00:03:42,126 --> 00:03:45,566 Speaker 1: not reading another essay, Tom, that's it. Just know from 59 00:03:45,606 --> 00:03:49,646 Speaker 1: our end. Well, some of that stuff has been recycled 60 00:03:49,846 --> 00:03:53,126 Speaker 1: from last year, of course, right, So some of the 61 00:03:53,246 --> 00:03:56,326 Speaker 1: things that the Patriots social media department had sent out 62 00:03:56,406 --> 00:03:58,926 Speaker 1: last year they sent out again. I'm sure a lot 63 00:03:58,966 --> 00:04:03,086 Speaker 1: of the statements are still the same, although Patriots team 64 00:04:03,126 --> 00:04:06,646 Speaker 1: owner Robert draft It said that he'd liked to see 65 00:04:07,366 --> 00:04:11,086 Speaker 1: Tom Brady officially retire as a Patriot, even if it's 66 00:04:11,126 --> 00:04:14,126 Speaker 1: just for a one day contracts. We'll see if that happens. 67 00:04:14,566 --> 00:04:18,086 Speaker 1: I'm still convinced that Tom thinks that he could still 68 00:04:18,286 --> 00:04:21,006 Speaker 1: play at a high level because he did. It's not 69 00:04:21,166 --> 00:04:25,726 Speaker 1: like we saw him deteriorate his skills not being there. 70 00:04:26,126 --> 00:04:30,926 Speaker 1: They were there. And with the global look at this 71 00:04:31,286 --> 00:04:33,206 Speaker 1: announcement of his which, by the way, I liked it. 72 00:04:33,326 --> 00:04:35,726 Speaker 1: It was simple, it was to the point, and it 73 00:04:35,806 --> 00:04:40,366 Speaker 1: came from him when I was back in Mount Laurel, 74 00:04:40,446 --> 00:04:45,046 Speaker 1: New Jersey, and this was March thirteenth through the nineteenth 75 00:04:45,726 --> 00:04:50,046 Speaker 1: when the pandemic was happening. In twenty twenty just starting. 76 00:04:50,326 --> 00:04:54,886 Speaker 1: Everything is shutting down, bars, restaurants, No one's flying on 77 00:04:55,006 --> 00:04:59,646 Speaker 1: the plane. I know, I know, right, it's bring it back, 78 00:04:59,766 --> 00:05:03,166 Speaker 1: like I know. I know, you're like PTSD, No, I get. 79 00:05:03,526 --> 00:05:05,886 Speaker 1: There is a point to this though. I was there 80 00:05:06,646 --> 00:05:11,486 Speaker 1: with three of our other NFL Network colleagues, and I 81 00:05:11,606 --> 00:05:17,046 Speaker 1: remember announcing that Tom Brady was leaving the Patriots, and 82 00:05:17,486 --> 00:05:21,326 Speaker 1: that felt like there was finality. But it also felt 83 00:05:21,686 --> 00:05:24,526 Speaker 1: seismic at that point in time because because here was 84 00:05:24,646 --> 00:05:29,126 Speaker 1: this major news event that was happening and permeating our lives, 85 00:05:29,486 --> 00:05:32,286 Speaker 1: and yet Tom Brady saying that he wasn't going to 86 00:05:32,366 --> 00:05:35,566 Speaker 1: be with the Patriots kind of took you back a 87 00:05:35,646 --> 00:05:39,166 Speaker 1: little bit. And for me, this feels like this is 88 00:05:39,286 --> 00:05:41,926 Speaker 1: the end for him, like there is not going to 89 00:05:42,006 --> 00:05:45,566 Speaker 1: be another chapter again. I thought that he would at 90 00:05:45,646 --> 00:05:48,446 Speaker 1: least play another year and maybe go to a team 91 00:05:48,566 --> 00:05:52,006 Speaker 1: like the forty nine ers, or maybe join Josh McDaniels 92 00:05:52,046 --> 00:05:56,966 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, but not to be decided to step away. 93 00:05:57,646 --> 00:06:01,206 Speaker 1: And even though my mom and people like her would say, 94 00:06:01,246 --> 00:06:04,966 Speaker 1: oh no, Montana Mejorge Brady, and they're going to be 95 00:06:05,046 --> 00:06:08,566 Speaker 1: those people that say Tom Brady's lived his charmed life. 96 00:06:08,646 --> 00:06:13,286 Speaker 1: Everything's been perfect for him, and they also right, and 97 00:06:13,446 --> 00:06:19,286 Speaker 1: they also get on him for deflate Gate and wondering 98 00:06:19,406 --> 00:06:23,086 Speaker 1: where there's actual legitimacy and some of these things that 99 00:06:23,126 --> 00:06:25,246 Speaker 1: he's done. It's like, stop it already. The man has 100 00:06:25,286 --> 00:06:29,406 Speaker 1: made ten Super Bowls, He's one seven of them. It 101 00:06:29,606 --> 00:06:33,646 Speaker 1: is extremely hard to make one super Bowl. Just ask 102 00:06:33,926 --> 00:06:37,566 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Dan Marino, or we're going to bring 103 00:06:37,646 --> 00:06:40,006 Speaker 1: out I'm sorry, I didn't meet too. That was was 104 00:06:40,046 --> 00:06:42,286 Speaker 1: the first one that came to my mind. But it's true. 105 00:06:43,606 --> 00:06:46,766 Speaker 1: It's very difficult. Yeah, let alone one super Bowl, let 106 00:06:46,806 --> 00:06:49,366 Speaker 1: alone seven to your point, and you hit it on 107 00:06:49,446 --> 00:06:53,806 Speaker 1: the head earlier. Will This retirement announcement came from him 108 00:06:54,526 --> 00:06:56,566 Speaker 1: on his terms, the way that he wanted to do it, 109 00:06:56,686 --> 00:06:59,286 Speaker 1: and I think we all sort of missed that from 110 00:06:59,566 --> 00:07:02,926 Speaker 1: the go around exactly one year ago. So for his 111 00:07:03,686 --> 00:07:06,406 Speaker 1: for his legacy, for his stamp, right, I mean, it's 112 00:07:06,446 --> 00:07:09,446 Speaker 1: not like we haven't seen someone on retire before. Shoot, 113 00:07:09,686 --> 00:07:11,686 Speaker 1: he pulled his buddy Gronk out of retirement to go 114 00:07:11,806 --> 00:07:15,166 Speaker 1: win another championship ring in Tampa, you know. But I mean, 115 00:07:15,286 --> 00:07:19,126 Speaker 1: so it's it's not like it's it's unprecedented. And how 116 00:07:19,206 --> 00:07:21,046 Speaker 1: lucky are we that we got to see yet another 117 00:07:21,126 --> 00:07:25,046 Speaker 1: year of Tom Brady under center and still breaking records 118 00:07:25,086 --> 00:07:27,606 Speaker 1: his own records, mind you, I think this is great. 119 00:07:27,646 --> 00:07:29,446 Speaker 1: Good for him. By the way, now he's he has 120 00:07:29,446 --> 00:07:32,086 Speaker 1: a nice broadcast contract waiting for him on the other side, 121 00:07:32,086 --> 00:07:35,446 Speaker 1: so he'll be one of us, one of us, and 122 00:07:35,526 --> 00:07:38,606 Speaker 1: then shortly thereafter, just a few years, we will definitely 123 00:07:38,646 --> 00:07:40,606 Speaker 1: see him in a gold jacket, without question, there's no 124 00:07:40,806 --> 00:07:42,686 Speaker 1: there's no doubt in my mind. So whether this is 125 00:07:42,726 --> 00:07:46,646 Speaker 1: the last one, we don't know. We'll see um, but 126 00:07:47,286 --> 00:07:50,286 Speaker 1: I'm happy for Tom, good for you. Let's see what 127 00:07:50,366 --> 00:07:51,886 Speaker 1: comes next, because it's not like we're not going to 128 00:07:51,926 --> 00:07:56,886 Speaker 1: see him again. Let's be abundantly clear about that. Absolutely, 129 00:07:57,046 --> 00:07:59,886 Speaker 1: And he's going to be going token with JJ Watt two, 130 00:08:00,286 --> 00:08:04,046 Speaker 1: who had announced his retirement with two games left in 131 00:08:04,086 --> 00:08:07,286 Speaker 1: the regular season. So the two of them, Wow, blockbuster 132 00:08:07,406 --> 00:08:09,366 Speaker 1: class already. I love that. I know it's gonna be 133 00:08:09,406 --> 00:08:13,046 Speaker 1: tough that year for everybody else. Um, but this seems 134 00:08:13,046 --> 00:08:15,246 Speaker 1: to be true. But we do have to check in 135 00:08:15,366 --> 00:08:17,046 Speaker 1: on a couple of other things that may or may 136 00:08:17,086 --> 00:08:25,286 Speaker 1: not be Ah yes saying that my mom would say, 137 00:08:29,726 --> 00:08:35,966 Speaker 1: essentially saying I'm calling BS right right translation BS or not? Um. 138 00:08:36,126 --> 00:08:38,806 Speaker 1: One of the one of the things is surrounding UM, 139 00:08:38,966 --> 00:08:42,486 Speaker 1: tom Brady's former backup qb UM, the team that we 140 00:08:42,846 --> 00:08:46,726 Speaker 1: thought maybe Tom Brady would go to. YEP. Coach Kyle 141 00:08:46,766 --> 00:08:50,726 Speaker 1: Shanahan was asked, Hey, there scenario where Jimmy Garoppolo could 142 00:08:50,726 --> 00:08:53,926 Speaker 1: be returning. Here's what Channy had to say about that. 143 00:08:54,966 --> 00:08:57,366 Speaker 1: I wish you guys could see Jimmy being back, and 144 00:08:57,486 --> 00:08:59,886 Speaker 1: if so, what what would that like? No, I don't 145 00:08:59,886 --> 00:09:07,366 Speaker 1: see any scenario that. Okay, direct, he does not mence works. 146 00:09:07,446 --> 00:09:10,886 Speaker 1: I will tell you like he's pretty straightforward, but he's 147 00:09:10,886 --> 00:09:13,926 Speaker 1: a little testy, and well he was. He was over right, 148 00:09:14,206 --> 00:09:17,446 Speaker 1: very and you just see that the lower third on 149 00:09:17,486 --> 00:09:21,446 Speaker 1: their fall short of a super bouchalt in the wood. 150 00:09:21,766 --> 00:09:23,726 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think any of us expected for 151 00:09:24,086 --> 00:09:26,366 Speaker 1: for for Jimmy to be back with the forty nine ers, 152 00:09:26,446 --> 00:09:29,206 Speaker 1: should we. I hesitated to think that he would be 153 00:09:29,286 --> 00:09:32,086 Speaker 1: back in San Francisco last year. I'm glad that he was. 154 00:09:32,966 --> 00:09:35,206 Speaker 1: I mean, he certainly has. He has done a lot 155 00:09:35,246 --> 00:09:37,726 Speaker 1: for that team. Look at the record. You can criticize 156 00:09:37,806 --> 00:09:40,166 Speaker 1: him all you want about key moments in games, but 157 00:09:40,446 --> 00:09:44,246 Speaker 1: the man won a lot of games for the forty 158 00:09:44,326 --> 00:09:47,806 Speaker 1: nine ers and is really beloved within the building and 159 00:09:47,886 --> 00:09:50,166 Speaker 1: certainly by the fans as well. But I think that's it, 160 00:09:50,486 --> 00:09:52,486 Speaker 1: sort of that relationship has has sort of come to 161 00:09:52,566 --> 00:09:57,566 Speaker 1: its end, and now James Richard gets to explore, explore 162 00:09:57,646 --> 00:10:00,926 Speaker 1: other things. But I don't know that it's because coach 163 00:10:00,966 --> 00:10:05,406 Speaker 1: set Us told us straight up, yes, let there's no 164 00:10:05,526 --> 00:10:08,646 Speaker 1: reason to doubt it. I guess though, We doubted it 165 00:10:08,806 --> 00:10:14,006 Speaker 1: earlier because in the off season he had said, ah, 166 00:10:14,166 --> 00:10:17,446 Speaker 1: well goodbye, you know, thanks to everybody. I'm good. And 167 00:10:17,606 --> 00:10:20,806 Speaker 1: then it just worked out that he came back and 168 00:10:21,126 --> 00:10:23,686 Speaker 1: they both needed each other. He didn't have a market 169 00:10:24,086 --> 00:10:26,726 Speaker 1: and he handled all this with a lot of class, 170 00:10:27,166 --> 00:10:30,566 Speaker 1: where he could have made this a messy divorce, a 171 00:10:30,766 --> 00:10:34,806 Speaker 1: messy ending, and he didn't. Both parties needed each other. 172 00:10:35,006 --> 00:10:38,966 Speaker 1: I think it was mutually beneficial. I do think this time, 173 00:10:39,046 --> 00:10:42,246 Speaker 1: though he's leaving, I think they're happy with Trey and 174 00:10:42,406 --> 00:10:46,406 Speaker 1: Brock party. And what's funny is to hear Trey Land 175 00:10:46,486 --> 00:10:48,446 Speaker 1: say no, no, no, but I'll be ready in three 176 00:10:48,526 --> 00:10:50,326 Speaker 1: to four weeks. I said, don't forget about me, and 177 00:10:50,406 --> 00:10:52,766 Speaker 1: brock Purty's like, no, no, no, no, I'll be ready 178 00:10:53,286 --> 00:10:57,326 Speaker 1: by training camp, don't you worry. So I think the 179 00:10:57,446 --> 00:10:59,366 Speaker 1: forty nine ers feel like they've got a good thing 180 00:10:59,486 --> 00:11:02,446 Speaker 1: going with that quarterback room, and maybe they go out 181 00:11:02,526 --> 00:11:06,606 Speaker 1: and get and experienced of some kind. Right, I mean, 182 00:11:06,686 --> 00:11:09,126 Speaker 1: they've been through it so much at the quarterback position. 183 00:11:09,286 --> 00:11:12,846 Speaker 1: I mean, certainly several years ago, and we're talking twenty eighteen, 184 00:11:12,846 --> 00:11:16,206 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, when Jimmy first got there, there was all 185 00:11:16,286 --> 00:11:19,406 Speaker 1: this hope, and we've that entire squad made it all 186 00:11:19,446 --> 00:11:21,806 Speaker 1: the way to a Super Bowl. A lot of has 187 00:11:21,846 --> 00:11:24,566 Speaker 1: happened since then and they've gone through and at that position. 188 00:11:24,686 --> 00:11:26,686 Speaker 1: But I think with everything else, they're one of the 189 00:11:26,766 --> 00:11:31,646 Speaker 1: most complete teams in the NFL, without question. But you 190 00:11:31,806 --> 00:11:34,126 Speaker 1: have to be solidified at the most important position on 191 00:11:34,206 --> 00:11:36,206 Speaker 1: the field or you're never going to make it. You 192 00:11:36,286 --> 00:11:38,606 Speaker 1: do back to a Super Bowl. So they have a 193 00:11:38,686 --> 00:11:41,166 Speaker 1: lot to talk about. But between the minds of John 194 00:11:41,246 --> 00:11:44,326 Speaker 1: Lynch and Kyle Shanahan, I'm not concerned they're gonna make 195 00:11:44,406 --> 00:11:47,206 Speaker 1: something happen. If I'm a qube on the market, I 196 00:11:47,326 --> 00:11:50,606 Speaker 1: want to go there, wouldn't you? Sure? Sure? Well, yeah, 197 00:11:50,726 --> 00:11:54,966 Speaker 1: I mean they've got a genius play call or if 198 00:11:54,966 --> 00:11:56,646 Speaker 1: you want to call him that, even though he doesn't 199 00:11:56,806 --> 00:11:59,806 Speaker 1: like that, Moniker, they have that. They have the pieces 200 00:11:59,846 --> 00:12:03,926 Speaker 1: in place, and their window is right now because some 201 00:12:04,086 --> 00:12:08,726 Speaker 1: of these guys Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle, Deebo Samuel, they 202 00:12:08,886 --> 00:12:13,246 Speaker 1: are all on the same contract parallel track right now. 203 00:12:13,366 --> 00:12:15,886 Speaker 1: So if they're going to do something, do it now. 204 00:12:16,086 --> 00:12:18,646 Speaker 1: Swing for the fences, Brady would have been nice. That's 205 00:12:18,726 --> 00:12:21,326 Speaker 1: now off the table. We'll see what else they do. 206 00:12:21,646 --> 00:12:24,846 Speaker 1: But they've got a good thing going there with Brock 207 00:12:24,926 --> 00:12:27,766 Speaker 1: and Trey. I will say this as you know will 208 00:12:28,046 --> 00:12:29,646 Speaker 1: and for those who don't know listening right now, I 209 00:12:29,726 --> 00:12:31,886 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with the forty nine Ers franchise. 210 00:12:31,926 --> 00:12:34,686 Speaker 1: When I started here at the NFL Network five years ago, 211 00:12:34,806 --> 00:12:36,926 Speaker 1: that was my beat. I was in the Bay Area 212 00:12:37,006 --> 00:12:39,326 Speaker 1: with the Niners and with the Raiders, and having been 213 00:12:39,406 --> 00:12:42,246 Speaker 1: so well ingratiated with this team, I sort of know 214 00:12:42,886 --> 00:12:45,446 Speaker 1: the context and the culture of how they operate, and 215 00:12:45,606 --> 00:12:48,846 Speaker 1: what they have built in this time span is nothing 216 00:12:48,966 --> 00:12:52,126 Speaker 1: short of incredible. They have been intentional at every step. 217 00:12:52,446 --> 00:12:54,886 Speaker 1: The locker room culture is unlike any that I've seen 218 00:12:54,966 --> 00:12:57,406 Speaker 1: throughout the league. And so if you're a forty nine 219 00:12:57,446 --> 00:13:00,886 Speaker 1: Ers fan right now, you have plenty to be excited 220 00:13:00,886 --> 00:13:03,766 Speaker 1: about and hopeful for, because look at what they've done. 221 00:13:04,286 --> 00:13:07,726 Speaker 1: You guys, we've already but third fourth string quarterback by 222 00:13:07,766 --> 00:13:09,926 Speaker 1: the time we got to the NFC Championship. Get come on, 223 00:13:10,846 --> 00:13:14,166 Speaker 1: this team is ready to win. It's one very important 224 00:13:14,246 --> 00:13:16,886 Speaker 1: key piece. Uh. And of course a lot of those 225 00:13:16,966 --> 00:13:20,246 Speaker 1: hopes are relying on Trey Lance, who was the starter 226 00:13:20,406 --> 00:13:23,206 Speaker 1: to start this season. But let's see what's what happens 227 00:13:23,206 --> 00:13:26,126 Speaker 1: over the next few months after Super Bowl fifty seven 228 00:13:26,286 --> 00:13:27,486 Speaker 1: is over all? Right, Well, why don't we take a 229 00:13:27,486 --> 00:13:30,446 Speaker 1: little break, recalibrate our lives and come back with Warren 230 00:13:30,486 --> 00:13:40,686 Speaker 1: a little let's do it to the phone RT there's touchdown. 231 00:13:41,046 --> 00:13:52,206 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles fanatistics chat. Absolutely love those calls, one of 232 00:13:52,246 --> 00:13:55,526 Speaker 1: the many Eagles touchdowns scored to punch their way into 233 00:13:55,606 --> 00:13:58,726 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And speaking of Super Bowl, we're joined 234 00:13:58,766 --> 00:14:02,846 Speaker 1: by a two time Super Bowl winner, also Super Bowl NDP. 235 00:14:03,646 --> 00:14:07,846 Speaker 1: Let us give a loud and strong welcome to the 236 00:14:08,046 --> 00:14:18,086 Speaker 1: l Huddle Podcast to Jim Plunket, Jim Hottie, Jim much better. 237 00:14:18,326 --> 00:14:21,126 Speaker 1: Now that we are talking to you, we'll dive into 238 00:14:21,206 --> 00:14:24,406 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, the particulars and some of your memories. 239 00:14:24,526 --> 00:14:27,966 Speaker 1: But since it's fresh and it just happened, what were 240 00:14:28,046 --> 00:14:31,566 Speaker 1: your initial thoughts of Tom Brady saying that this was 241 00:14:31,806 --> 00:14:34,926 Speaker 1: indeed it for him? Well, you know, it's a long 242 00:14:35,046 --> 00:14:38,726 Speaker 1: history of Tom. He's from the Bay Area where I'm from. 243 00:14:39,526 --> 00:14:43,126 Speaker 1: Father's career for a long long time. There's no question 244 00:14:43,166 --> 00:14:45,566 Speaker 1: about it. Obviously, one of the best to ever play 245 00:14:45,646 --> 00:14:50,286 Speaker 1: that position in the NFL. And you know, eventually you 246 00:14:50,406 --> 00:14:54,926 Speaker 1: have to pass that mantalon and and he's done. He's 247 00:14:54,926 --> 00:14:56,966 Speaker 1: had a great career, there's no doubt about that, and 248 00:14:57,726 --> 00:15:00,326 Speaker 1: he's accomplished a lot. And uh, you know, for a 249 00:15:00,366 --> 00:15:02,006 Speaker 1: lot of people, it's sad to see him go, but 250 00:15:02,366 --> 00:15:05,486 Speaker 1: he's making the decision what's best for him, right and 251 00:15:05,966 --> 00:15:07,566 Speaker 1: at some point he's got to be able to kick 252 00:15:07,606 --> 00:15:09,606 Speaker 1: off his feet on that beach where he was and 253 00:15:10,166 --> 00:15:13,006 Speaker 1: just enjoy sort of the fruits of all his labor. Jim, 254 00:15:13,046 --> 00:15:15,566 Speaker 1: we were going through this research packet, right The research 255 00:15:15,606 --> 00:15:17,766 Speaker 1: packet on Tom Brady's career was almost thicker than the 256 00:15:17,846 --> 00:15:20,486 Speaker 1: research packet for the Super Bowl matchup coming up, and 257 00:15:20,646 --> 00:15:23,726 Speaker 1: rightfully slow spanned over twenty three seasons, a lot of 258 00:15:23,806 --> 00:15:27,526 Speaker 1: firsts in there, similar to your career. I mean, you 259 00:15:27,566 --> 00:15:31,086 Speaker 1: have been so monumental, especially for the Latinos who who 260 00:15:31,246 --> 00:15:33,446 Speaker 1: follow and love this game and were the first Latino 261 00:15:33,486 --> 00:15:36,766 Speaker 1: starting QB to win a Super Bowl, Force Latino draft pick. 262 00:15:36,766 --> 00:15:38,846 Speaker 1: I mean, I could go on and on, but from 263 00:15:39,126 --> 00:15:41,046 Speaker 1: when you look back at your career, when you sit 264 00:15:41,126 --> 00:15:43,526 Speaker 1: back on that proverbial beach, what's it been like for 265 00:15:43,646 --> 00:15:46,366 Speaker 1: you to know that you set the tone for so 266 00:15:46,486 --> 00:15:50,286 Speaker 1: many others who looked to follow that that path. Well, yeah, 267 00:15:51,526 --> 00:15:53,526 Speaker 1: from that perspective, you know, it did a lot of 268 00:15:53,606 --> 00:15:59,246 Speaker 1: things that the Hispanic population to be proud of. You know, 269 00:15:59,686 --> 00:16:04,406 Speaker 1: it was a struggle growing up. You know, my parents 270 00:16:04,486 --> 00:16:08,006 Speaker 1: were line. Didn't know what I was going to do 271 00:16:08,126 --> 00:16:11,486 Speaker 1: in my career, but I studied very hard, was able 272 00:16:11,526 --> 00:16:15,326 Speaker 1: to get into Stanford, had a great coach in John Ralston, 273 00:16:15,366 --> 00:16:18,166 Speaker 1: which helped me along the way. But you know, I 274 00:16:18,286 --> 00:16:21,486 Speaker 1: made a lot of progress and you know, I'm happy 275 00:16:21,646 --> 00:16:25,086 Speaker 1: for you know, myself, my family and the Hispanic community 276 00:16:25,166 --> 00:16:29,246 Speaker 1: without a question, you know, did Jim did you? And 277 00:16:29,646 --> 00:16:32,166 Speaker 1: Coach Flores we had him on the podcast as well, 278 00:16:32,286 --> 00:16:35,806 Speaker 1: and he talked about it. Did you both realize like 279 00:16:36,246 --> 00:16:39,246 Speaker 1: what you were doing and what you represented at the 280 00:16:39,326 --> 00:16:44,366 Speaker 1: time with the Raiders? Probably not that At that time specifically, 281 00:16:44,446 --> 00:16:46,326 Speaker 1: I was you know, I was happy to be where 282 00:16:46,366 --> 00:16:50,246 Speaker 1: I was. I worked very hard, both on and off 283 00:16:50,326 --> 00:16:53,726 Speaker 1: the field to to to get there. And then, uh, 284 00:16:53,926 --> 00:16:58,526 Speaker 1: you know, went to New England. I spent five years there, 285 00:16:58,606 --> 00:17:01,046 Speaker 1: two years in San Francisco. Things weren't working out for me. 286 00:17:01,086 --> 00:17:03,526 Speaker 1: I didn't know where what direction my career was going 287 00:17:03,566 --> 00:17:05,646 Speaker 1: to go if I had one at all after that 288 00:17:05,806 --> 00:17:09,566 Speaker 1: point and mister Davis and Kus Flowers took a chance 289 00:17:09,686 --> 00:17:12,486 Speaker 1: on me after being cut by the forty nine ers, 290 00:17:12,646 --> 00:17:16,246 Speaker 1: and you know, it's certainly paid off for me and 291 00:17:16,406 --> 00:17:18,286 Speaker 1: for the Raiders as well. So you know, I'm very 292 00:17:18,326 --> 00:17:20,206 Speaker 1: happy I wounded up where I did and had the 293 00:17:20,286 --> 00:17:23,286 Speaker 1: success later in my career as it turned out to be, 294 00:17:23,846 --> 00:17:25,766 Speaker 1: and still repping the Silver and Black. We see you 295 00:17:25,806 --> 00:17:28,686 Speaker 1: there with your Raiders h polo shirt. And that's what 296 00:17:28,766 --> 00:17:31,566 Speaker 1: I love about all of the players who have been 297 00:17:31,726 --> 00:17:34,166 Speaker 1: with that franchise because it's very true. You hear a 298 00:17:34,246 --> 00:17:36,846 Speaker 1: time and again, Once a Raider, always a Raider. And 299 00:17:36,926 --> 00:17:42,286 Speaker 1: we were talking with with Tom Flora's about it about 300 00:17:42,326 --> 00:17:45,926 Speaker 1: the new generation of Raiders fans, right, because he says 301 00:17:45,966 --> 00:17:49,326 Speaker 1: that his grandkids when they're out at events and people 302 00:17:49,406 --> 00:17:53,086 Speaker 1: freak out, that's when they realized like, okay, maybe Grandpa, 303 00:17:53,166 --> 00:17:55,486 Speaker 1: maybe I would always is a big deal. Do you 304 00:17:55,686 --> 00:17:58,726 Speaker 1: find have you had any interactions like that was sort 305 00:17:58,726 --> 00:18:01,126 Speaker 1: of like the new gen Z wave of Raiders fans 306 00:18:01,206 --> 00:18:03,446 Speaker 1: or I feel like they're pretty well versed in the 307 00:18:03,566 --> 00:18:06,446 Speaker 1: history though of the team, I think, so, you know, 308 00:18:07,446 --> 00:18:09,926 Speaker 1: I won't say the majority of fans for the Raiders 309 00:18:10,006 --> 00:18:14,206 Speaker 1: were Hispanic, but certainly a great deal of They're proud 310 00:18:14,286 --> 00:18:17,806 Speaker 1: of what you know, uh, that it brought to the 311 00:18:17,886 --> 00:18:20,926 Speaker 1: Hispanic community, and and and we live on that, we 312 00:18:21,086 --> 00:18:24,126 Speaker 1: thrive on it. They've been very gracious over the many years. 313 00:18:25,526 --> 00:18:28,886 Speaker 1: And you know, we've got a strong, strong fan following 314 00:18:29,006 --> 00:18:32,966 Speaker 1: both in the United States and in Mexico. It's it's 315 00:18:33,086 --> 00:18:38,486 Speaker 1: almost worldwide in a sense, the Raiders tradition and history. Well, 316 00:18:38,606 --> 00:18:40,606 Speaker 1: what do you think of the fan base down in 317 00:18:40,726 --> 00:18:44,086 Speaker 1: Mexico given the fact that we've heard and MJ was 318 00:18:44,206 --> 00:18:47,086 Speaker 1: there in Mexico City herself felt like it was a 319 00:18:47,246 --> 00:18:52,486 Speaker 1: super Bowl the way that crowd was so excited and 320 00:18:52,806 --> 00:18:57,606 Speaker 1: so into the game. Knowing the players, the passion down there, 321 00:18:58,406 --> 00:19:03,366 Speaker 1: what would you stay to having more games down there, 322 00:19:03,566 --> 00:19:07,766 Speaker 1: maybe even a team down there, as your former Coachtown 323 00:19:07,766 --> 00:19:11,326 Speaker 1: Floras even suggested. You know, I don't know about having 324 00:19:11,366 --> 00:19:13,686 Speaker 1: a team down there. I don't know where they all 325 00:19:13,766 --> 00:19:19,246 Speaker 1: that would entail. But there's no doubt the Mexican community 326 00:19:20,766 --> 00:19:26,246 Speaker 1: is very very uh yeah, I see, you know, I'm 327 00:19:26,286 --> 00:19:29,846 Speaker 1: trying to think of the right words, but they're huge, 328 00:19:30,006 --> 00:19:33,086 Speaker 1: They're very into sports, they're very passionate. Uh, you know, 329 00:19:33,206 --> 00:19:37,206 Speaker 1: they display their emotions quite vividly, uh, And it was 330 00:19:37,326 --> 00:19:41,846 Speaker 1: quite an experience of being down there among the Hispanic people. 331 00:19:42,006 --> 00:19:44,726 Speaker 1: You know, I although I'm Hispanic, I was born and 332 00:19:44,846 --> 00:19:48,206 Speaker 1: raised in California and my family was from Albuquerque and 333 00:19:48,406 --> 00:19:51,126 Speaker 1: Santa Fe. So I had not spent a lot of 334 00:19:51,166 --> 00:19:52,886 Speaker 1: time down there. But when I do go down there, 335 00:19:52,886 --> 00:19:55,486 Speaker 1: they treat me with great respect. They talk about the 336 00:19:55,606 --> 00:19:58,006 Speaker 1: Raiders to coach Coach Flores and all the things that 337 00:19:58,086 --> 00:20:01,406 Speaker 1: he accomplished. Jim, we got to talk about the Super 338 00:20:01,446 --> 00:20:04,806 Speaker 1: Bowl because I think the game certainly has evolved tremendou 339 00:20:04,846 --> 00:20:06,766 Speaker 1: to sleep even if you look back just at the 340 00:20:06,846 --> 00:20:09,966 Speaker 1: last two to five years, right and the quarterback position. 341 00:20:10,046 --> 00:20:13,726 Speaker 1: Two no better example of that than Patrick Mahomes and 342 00:20:13,806 --> 00:20:16,846 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, who are the first two black quarterbacks actually 343 00:20:16,886 --> 00:20:18,566 Speaker 1: to go head to head in a Super Bowl before. 344 00:20:18,926 --> 00:20:21,846 Speaker 1: How have you seen not just the QB position evolve 345 00:20:21,966 --> 00:20:24,606 Speaker 1: over the years, but even just the way the game 346 00:20:24,766 --> 00:20:27,526 Speaker 1: is played as you're leading up to the biggest game 347 00:20:27,766 --> 00:20:30,526 Speaker 1: of the season, Well, you know, years ago is a 348 00:20:30,686 --> 00:20:34,686 Speaker 1: run run throw, run, run, throw, you know, get control 349 00:20:34,766 --> 00:20:37,446 Speaker 1: of the game on the ground. Now it's a passing game, 350 00:20:37,526 --> 00:20:40,326 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. You've got two great quarterbacks 351 00:20:40,406 --> 00:20:42,806 Speaker 1: playing right now that can I only throw the football 352 00:20:45,406 --> 00:20:48,286 Speaker 1: on the run. They doing amazing things with their feet, 353 00:20:48,886 --> 00:20:53,166 Speaker 1: but you know, they're also very active. They drive defense 354 00:20:53,326 --> 00:20:55,606 Speaker 1: is crazy because of their ability to pick up first 355 00:20:55,646 --> 00:20:57,486 Speaker 1: downs on the ground as well as through the air. 356 00:20:57,966 --> 00:21:00,086 Speaker 1: And so this is a new age of quarterbacks and 357 00:21:00,366 --> 00:21:03,006 Speaker 1: all the things they can do out in the field. Before, 358 00:21:03,046 --> 00:21:05,166 Speaker 1: if we got out of the pocket. In my era, 359 00:21:06,086 --> 00:21:08,246 Speaker 1: quarterback the coaches would say what the heck you do? 360 00:21:08,326 --> 00:21:11,086 Speaker 1: And stay in the pocket, you know, But now it's 361 00:21:11,606 --> 00:21:13,366 Speaker 1: those A lot of those players are designed for the 362 00:21:13,446 --> 00:21:16,686 Speaker 1: quarterback to run. Uh And I think it's made a 363 00:21:16,806 --> 00:21:21,806 Speaker 1: more exciting game over the years, and it's just continuing 364 00:21:21,886 --> 00:21:25,726 Speaker 1: to evolve. Well, Jim, how do you think you would 365 00:21:25,806 --> 00:21:28,566 Speaker 1: do in this era if they said all right, let's 366 00:21:28,606 --> 00:21:31,806 Speaker 1: go toss it all over the yard? Would you say, yeah, 367 00:21:31,926 --> 00:21:34,246 Speaker 1: let's do it? Or how would how would you feel 368 00:21:35,046 --> 00:21:36,806 Speaker 1: you got to You gotta remember I ran quite a 369 00:21:36,886 --> 00:21:39,246 Speaker 1: bit and when I've got to New England Fairbanks came in, 370 00:21:39,326 --> 00:21:42,326 Speaker 1: I was running the option so down in New England, 371 00:21:42,406 --> 00:21:44,526 Speaker 1: so you know, I'm quite used to running. I run 372 00:21:44,606 --> 00:21:47,686 Speaker 1: in college and high school. Uh And but it wasn't 373 00:21:47,726 --> 00:21:49,726 Speaker 1: the strongest part of my game. I guarantee you that. 374 00:21:50,646 --> 00:21:53,166 Speaker 1: But you know, I loved running what I could and 375 00:21:53,366 --> 00:21:55,486 Speaker 1: I'd like the planes that were designed for the quarterback 376 00:21:55,526 --> 00:21:58,926 Speaker 1: in certain situations. Uh, but you know it's still it's 377 00:21:58,926 --> 00:22:00,686 Speaker 1: still you got to throw the ball down the field 378 00:22:01,326 --> 00:22:05,006 Speaker 1: to win most of these football games. And that's what 379 00:22:05,166 --> 00:22:08,246 Speaker 1: got me, you know, scholarship to Stanford, got in the 380 00:22:08,366 --> 00:22:11,806 Speaker 1: NFL being able to throw the football down the field. Jim, 381 00:22:11,926 --> 00:22:14,566 Speaker 1: when you look at this matchup to Patrick Mahomes going 382 00:22:14,606 --> 00:22:16,926 Speaker 1: to his third Super Bowl start, this is the first 383 00:22:16,966 --> 00:22:19,406 Speaker 1: time around for Jalen Hurts. How much more of an 384 00:22:19,446 --> 00:22:22,646 Speaker 1: advantage is it when you're both still pretty pretty new 385 00:22:22,726 --> 00:22:25,406 Speaker 1: in the league. But just having the context of having 386 00:22:25,526 --> 00:22:28,486 Speaker 1: played in the biggest game that changes a lot. I 387 00:22:28,526 --> 00:22:31,886 Speaker 1: would imagine, Oh, I think it does. You know, for 388 00:22:32,046 --> 00:22:34,926 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, it's his first time getting into the into 389 00:22:34,966 --> 00:22:38,126 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. He's excited. He might be over anxious 390 00:22:38,126 --> 00:22:40,646 Speaker 1: when he gets into the game. And it can happen 391 00:22:40,726 --> 00:22:43,966 Speaker 1: both ways. You might be so excited that you're making 392 00:22:44,006 --> 00:22:46,086 Speaker 1: mistakes all the time, or you get two conservatives and 393 00:22:46,126 --> 00:22:48,766 Speaker 1: you don't want to make a mistake. So it can 394 00:22:48,846 --> 00:22:51,326 Speaker 1: go either way. But Jalen Hurts has certainly proven himself 395 00:22:53,086 --> 00:22:55,046 Speaker 1: the type of quarterback he is. He seems to do 396 00:22:55,166 --> 00:22:58,806 Speaker 1: the right things at the right time, and that's very key. Mahomes. 397 00:22:58,886 --> 00:23:01,326 Speaker 1: You know, this is this is now. I won't say 398 00:23:01,366 --> 00:23:03,646 Speaker 1: past day. I'm sure it's excited. It was the first 399 00:23:03,686 --> 00:23:05,846 Speaker 1: time he win, but I'm sure he's more common and 400 00:23:05,886 --> 00:23:09,686 Speaker 1: collective than Jalen Hurts will probably be. But you know, 401 00:23:09,806 --> 00:23:11,606 Speaker 1: after a little bit, you calm down and you go 402 00:23:11,686 --> 00:23:15,006 Speaker 1: out there and do the job that got you there. Jim, 403 00:23:15,086 --> 00:23:18,006 Speaker 1: at this time of year, do you always kind of 404 00:23:18,046 --> 00:23:20,846 Speaker 1: get a little juice up, a little bit more hyped 405 00:23:20,966 --> 00:23:25,406 Speaker 1: up because it's the Super Bowl and you think back 406 00:23:25,526 --> 00:23:28,406 Speaker 1: to your trips to the Super Bowl and the success 407 00:23:28,846 --> 00:23:32,686 Speaker 1: you had. Well, yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, I get 408 00:23:32,726 --> 00:23:35,206 Speaker 1: a little pumped up getting you know, look forward to 409 00:23:36,166 --> 00:23:40,486 Speaker 1: to see these games played each and every weekend. You know, 410 00:23:40,566 --> 00:23:42,766 Speaker 1: it's unfortunately the Wraiders aren't there, but you know that's 411 00:23:42,766 --> 00:23:45,406 Speaker 1: the way it goes sometimes. But yeah, I get excited. 412 00:23:45,406 --> 00:23:47,366 Speaker 1: I want to see great performances out of these some 413 00:23:47,406 --> 00:23:48,926 Speaker 1: of these great players, or I want to see the 414 00:23:48,966 --> 00:23:50,926 Speaker 1: guy you haven't heard too much about all of a 415 00:23:51,166 --> 00:23:54,246 Speaker 1: sudden explode on the football field and some of these 416 00:23:54,326 --> 00:23:57,486 Speaker 1: big games. But it's all very excited to me. You know, 417 00:23:57,526 --> 00:23:59,726 Speaker 1: it's it's what I did for a living for seventeen years. 418 00:24:00,566 --> 00:24:02,526 Speaker 1: You know, I love the game. I love the players. 419 00:24:03,046 --> 00:24:04,686 Speaker 1: I'd like to see what they do on the field, 420 00:24:04,846 --> 00:24:07,606 Speaker 1: and especially in crucial situations when it's third down and 421 00:24:07,686 --> 00:24:10,126 Speaker 1: eighteen and the quarterbacks got to come up with a player. 422 00:24:10,246 --> 00:24:12,286 Speaker 1: Receiver's got to make a great catch to make it 423 00:24:12,366 --> 00:24:14,726 Speaker 1: happen or get opened down the field. You know, those 424 00:24:14,766 --> 00:24:18,526 Speaker 1: are things that really excite me. You know, the days 425 00:24:18,566 --> 00:24:21,046 Speaker 1: of you know, run run, throw, you know, are pretty 426 00:24:21,126 --> 00:24:23,326 Speaker 1: much gone. Sometimes they throw ten times in a row 427 00:24:23,406 --> 00:24:26,046 Speaker 1: and that's the nature of the game. And I you know, 428 00:24:26,086 --> 00:24:28,846 Speaker 1: I've been a passer all my life, and you know, 429 00:24:28,886 --> 00:24:31,446 Speaker 1: I like to see that those those balls go down 430 00:24:31,526 --> 00:24:33,766 Speaker 1: the field in the air and make those great catches, 431 00:24:34,006 --> 00:24:36,606 Speaker 1: come up with big plays. That's all very exciting to me. 432 00:24:38,046 --> 00:24:41,086 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've worked with many of the current players 433 00:24:41,126 --> 00:24:44,006 Speaker 1: now are being able to interact with them. Has there 434 00:24:44,086 --> 00:24:46,646 Speaker 1: been a piece of advice that someone has asked you 435 00:24:46,846 --> 00:24:49,686 Speaker 1: for that sort of caught you off guard? Like him, 436 00:24:49,726 --> 00:24:52,806 Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting him to ask me about this aspect 437 00:24:52,846 --> 00:24:55,126 Speaker 1: of the game, whether it's on the field or not. 438 00:24:55,246 --> 00:24:57,566 Speaker 1: Because I think what folks don't realize now that this 439 00:24:57,806 --> 00:25:02,526 Speaker 1: generation of players are in a bubble all the time 440 00:25:02,686 --> 00:25:05,166 Speaker 1: because of social media and just just how much more 441 00:25:05,286 --> 00:25:08,766 Speaker 1: visible um they are to the public house. How would 442 00:25:08,806 --> 00:25:11,566 Speaker 1: you square that even um um as a player who's 443 00:25:11,566 --> 00:25:14,566 Speaker 1: who's trying to balance the responsibility of leading a team. 444 00:25:15,606 --> 00:25:18,806 Speaker 1: And also, you know, I'm having eyeballs all the time. Well, 445 00:25:18,926 --> 00:25:21,606 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a little distant time. You know, I 446 00:25:21,886 --> 00:25:25,366 Speaker 1: haven't played a long time. Uh, And uh, you know, 447 00:25:25,486 --> 00:25:29,766 Speaker 1: they really don't come to me for advice. Maybe they 448 00:25:29,886 --> 00:25:34,366 Speaker 1: should come on, they should, you know, but uh, you know, 449 00:25:35,646 --> 00:25:37,606 Speaker 1: I've been out of the game a long time. And 450 00:25:37,726 --> 00:25:39,406 Speaker 1: some of these kids didn't even know who I was 451 00:25:39,486 --> 00:25:41,926 Speaker 1: when I walked out of the field at practice or something, 452 00:25:42,286 --> 00:25:45,486 Speaker 1: which you know, I can understand that, but you know, 453 00:25:45,606 --> 00:25:49,606 Speaker 1: these kids are a different breed. I would I think, 454 00:25:49,726 --> 00:25:52,566 Speaker 1: you know, they've learned a lot. The passing game is 455 00:25:52,966 --> 00:25:55,246 Speaker 1: not new to them. Uh. And a lot of these 456 00:25:55,326 --> 00:25:57,686 Speaker 1: kids pretty much think they know everything to begin with. 457 00:25:57,886 --> 00:26:02,606 Speaker 1: Sometimes and other and others and others you know, are great. 458 00:26:02,686 --> 00:26:06,006 Speaker 1: They come up, they hello, mister plunket. It's just a 459 00:26:06,086 --> 00:26:07,766 Speaker 1: pleasure to meet you. I've heard a lot about you. 460 00:26:08,766 --> 00:26:10,726 Speaker 1: I wish i'd seen you play those kinds of things. 461 00:26:10,886 --> 00:26:14,286 Speaker 1: Those comments are very dairy and very respectful, and I 462 00:26:14,366 --> 00:26:19,486 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Jim so Um, you know, in talking to you, 463 00:26:20,006 --> 00:26:22,366 Speaker 1: you lamented the fact that the Raiders aren't playing in 464 00:26:22,406 --> 00:26:26,886 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. There were expectations that maybe they could 465 00:26:27,126 --> 00:26:29,646 Speaker 1: make a run the postseason, given the fact that the 466 00:26:30,166 --> 00:26:35,406 Speaker 1: season before they went to the playoffs. Derek Carr, you 467 00:26:35,526 --> 00:26:37,726 Speaker 1: saw how that all played out there. What do you 468 00:26:37,886 --> 00:26:40,766 Speaker 1: think that the Raiders need to do to get back 469 00:26:40,846 --> 00:26:43,246 Speaker 1: on the winning track and what should they do with 470 00:26:43,406 --> 00:26:48,286 Speaker 1: the with the quarterback position. Well, you know they've got 471 00:26:48,846 --> 00:26:52,526 Speaker 1: a young player end of the season after car Uh, 472 00:26:52,766 --> 00:26:55,526 Speaker 1: you know, decided not to play those last two games, 473 00:26:56,126 --> 00:26:59,366 Speaker 1: and he's got a lot of potential, but he needs 474 00:26:59,366 --> 00:27:02,166 Speaker 1: a lot more seasoning. But you know, you don't play 475 00:27:02,206 --> 00:27:05,446 Speaker 1: without You don't play well at the quarterbacksition unless you've 476 00:27:05,446 --> 00:27:08,326 Speaker 1: got an offensive line that can protect you receivers and 477 00:27:08,446 --> 00:27:10,486 Speaker 1: gets the ball for you and a defense that gets 478 00:27:10,486 --> 00:27:12,886 Speaker 1: you the ball back in great position during the course 479 00:27:12,926 --> 00:27:15,886 Speaker 1: of a ball game. But you know, these quarterbacks will grow. 480 00:27:17,326 --> 00:27:20,646 Speaker 1: They have You're a real fine coaching staff at the Raiders, 481 00:27:21,006 --> 00:27:23,926 Speaker 1: and you know, I expect you know, a lot of 482 00:27:24,006 --> 00:27:27,326 Speaker 1: improvement to occur. Uh. You know over the next you know, 483 00:27:27,526 --> 00:27:30,166 Speaker 1: few months and going into the next season. You know, 484 00:27:30,446 --> 00:27:33,006 Speaker 1: you work hard, you get better, uh. And you know, 485 00:27:33,046 --> 00:27:36,166 Speaker 1: hopefully they surround the quarterback with the players that he 486 00:27:36,326 --> 00:27:38,926 Speaker 1: needs to be able to do his job. It's not 487 00:27:39,006 --> 00:27:42,806 Speaker 1: always on the quarterback, you know that part, although some 488 00:27:42,846 --> 00:27:44,846 Speaker 1: people would disagree with you for sure because they always 489 00:27:44,846 --> 00:27:47,286 Speaker 1: that's the most visible position, so everybody jumps on him. No, 490 00:27:47,446 --> 00:27:50,166 Speaker 1: for sure. One thing is definitely for certain, Gym. It's 491 00:27:50,206 --> 00:27:54,006 Speaker 1: going to be a whirlwind of an off season, an 492 00:27:54,046 --> 00:27:56,806 Speaker 1: autumn wind. If you will, I don't know, I'll see 493 00:27:56,846 --> 00:28:00,366 Speaker 1: myself out. I'll see myself out. Thank you so much 494 00:28:00,486 --> 00:28:03,166 Speaker 1: for joining us. We appreciate you coming on um and 495 00:28:03,646 --> 00:28:06,086 Speaker 1: just drop a knowledge is always. Thank you so much, 496 00:28:07,206 --> 00:28:26,846 Speaker 1: Thanks Jim, I appreciate it. At least up he can 497 00:28:27,046 --> 00:28:39,806 Speaker 1: sail our buddy and Kabak on the call. There forcede 498 00:28:39,926 --> 00:28:42,366 Speaker 1: le visa. I love that, Pata. We have to bring 499 00:28:42,486 --> 00:28:46,646 Speaker 1: back the football terms in Spanish situation maybe next week, 500 00:28:46,686 --> 00:28:49,286 Speaker 1: you know, thank you. Honestly, MJ. I want to ask 501 00:28:49,326 --> 00:28:53,926 Speaker 1: you about that. How how closely do they in in 502 00:28:54,126 --> 00:28:58,566 Speaker 1: those broadcasts? Do they use quarterback or Mariscal de Campo 503 00:29:01,166 --> 00:29:04,046 Speaker 1: or wide receiver. I think the words have become so 504 00:29:04,166 --> 00:29:07,166 Speaker 1: ubiquitous in English and in Spanish where even if you're 505 00:29:07,206 --> 00:29:11,046 Speaker 1: not a native English speaker, you know what quarterback means. Right. 506 00:29:11,206 --> 00:29:13,806 Speaker 1: It's sort of like a proper noun at this point, 507 00:29:13,966 --> 00:29:17,086 Speaker 1: like we know all huddle is a huddle, right, NFL 508 00:29:17,166 --> 00:29:19,326 Speaker 1: is NFL, Like there's no translation for it, even though 509 00:29:19,366 --> 00:29:21,886 Speaker 1: there is a literal translation. I think if you say 510 00:29:22,006 --> 00:29:24,886 Speaker 1: quarterback or wide receiver, like they still get it. But 511 00:29:25,406 --> 00:29:27,766 Speaker 1: it is fun to see. It's not wrong, but it 512 00:29:27,926 --> 00:29:30,006 Speaker 1: is fun to see how it translates. I was trying 513 00:29:30,006 --> 00:29:37,686 Speaker 1: to teach much how to say that we pivoted, we pivoted. 514 00:29:37,726 --> 00:29:40,406 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let's just say and he's like, 515 00:29:40,526 --> 00:29:42,806 Speaker 1: what does that mean? And I'm like touchdown like they 516 00:29:42,966 --> 00:29:46,406 Speaker 1: like they scored basically, He's like, but what? Like he 517 00:29:46,566 --> 00:29:48,326 Speaker 1: had a lot of questions, as Mooch always does, that's 518 00:29:48,326 --> 00:29:50,046 Speaker 1: who should? It was fantastic. I have the video, you 519 00:29:50,126 --> 00:29:51,486 Speaker 1: know what, I think I'll post it on my social 520 00:29:51,526 --> 00:29:55,646 Speaker 1: media again because whenever I've had a discussion with him, 521 00:29:56,086 --> 00:29:59,726 Speaker 1: he gets really passionate and really excited, and he stands up. Yes, 522 00:30:00,126 --> 00:30:03,206 Speaker 1: and he's he's totally giving a pep talk to the 523 00:30:03,366 --> 00:30:06,366 Speaker 1: locker room. But he's in it. Picture. I'm saying that, yes, yeah, 524 00:30:06,446 --> 00:30:09,926 Speaker 1: he's in He's saying no, Marty's called the compo and 525 00:30:10,166 --> 00:30:16,206 Speaker 1: Jay and then over here reciptor abierto. And he doesn't 526 00:30:16,246 --> 00:30:17,966 Speaker 1: give up. So like if he feels like he didn't 527 00:30:17,966 --> 00:30:20,046 Speaker 1: get it perfect, he's like, no, let's let's do it again. 528 00:30:20,086 --> 00:30:23,206 Speaker 1: I love that about him. Never change, mooch, We love you. Um. Okay, 529 00:30:23,286 --> 00:30:28,286 Speaker 1: let's get into a little bye or selva. Ladies and gentlemen. 530 00:30:28,766 --> 00:30:34,766 Speaker 1: It's time or bye or selva. And let's start with 531 00:30:34,966 --> 00:30:39,406 Speaker 1: oh man, Aaron Rodgers. This guy. Every week you get 532 00:30:39,686 --> 00:30:43,526 Speaker 1: bummed out. You're just hero every week with this guy. Okay, 533 00:30:44,406 --> 00:30:48,966 Speaker 1: here's the phrase, buy or selva. Aaron Rodgers will be 534 00:30:49,846 --> 00:30:55,726 Speaker 1: the New York Jets quarterback next season. I'm going to 535 00:30:56,006 --> 00:31:00,606 Speaker 1: selva on this only because I can't picture his West 536 00:31:00,686 --> 00:31:05,726 Speaker 1: Coast hippie vibe ayahuasca thing going overwell in New York. Now. 537 00:31:05,966 --> 00:31:09,366 Speaker 1: I just don't see that vibe happening there. Now. Nathaniel 538 00:31:09,406 --> 00:31:12,526 Speaker 1: Hackett is there. He's the offensive coordinator. He even calls 539 00:31:12,606 --> 00:31:15,806 Speaker 1: him hack and he says, that's my guy. He said 540 00:31:15,886 --> 00:31:19,566 Speaker 1: that said that McAfee. I just don't see that being 541 00:31:19,686 --> 00:31:22,886 Speaker 1: a fit. I could see the Raiders maybe being a 542 00:31:23,006 --> 00:31:27,246 Speaker 1: fit for him. Uh and listen, he could just end 543 00:31:27,326 --> 00:31:30,526 Speaker 1: up staying in Green Bay anyway. But it's just like 544 00:31:30,646 --> 00:31:32,486 Speaker 1: the way that he's been talking, it just feels like 545 00:31:32,806 --> 00:31:37,006 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be there. But like you like, 546 00:31:37,126 --> 00:31:41,166 Speaker 1: you're correct, You're you're grunt that you had before, You're 547 00:31:41,406 --> 00:31:44,366 Speaker 1: you're like I wrong about it. I mean, the eye roll, 548 00:31:44,526 --> 00:31:46,846 Speaker 1: any of those things. I just feel like, you know, 549 00:31:47,206 --> 00:31:51,766 Speaker 1: hold on because we're gonna be white knuckling this month. 550 00:31:52,246 --> 00:31:55,126 Speaker 1: Is Aaron Rodgers, Yes, but it could just content at 551 00:31:55,206 --> 00:31:57,406 Speaker 1: least it does right, um, real quick. I don't know 552 00:31:57,406 --> 00:31:59,846 Speaker 1: if you saw it last night, Um. Devantae Adams was 553 00:32:00,006 --> 00:32:04,486 Speaker 1: answering questions from fans on Twitter, and the one fan said, one, 554 00:32:04,806 --> 00:32:08,606 Speaker 1: your brohood is Aaron Rodgers, moving to Tay's response, mine 555 00:32:10,166 --> 00:32:14,366 Speaker 1: agent of chaos. Stop it, bro, We have plenty right, 556 00:32:14,566 --> 00:32:17,646 Speaker 1: don't do this. We gotta hit him up for sure, Okay, bye? 557 00:32:17,926 --> 00:32:22,166 Speaker 1: Or Selva Sean Payton now the Broncos head coach will 558 00:32:22,326 --> 00:32:27,606 Speaker 1: fix Russell Wilson. I am going to say bye only 559 00:32:27,686 --> 00:32:31,086 Speaker 1: because we have seen this from Sean Payton before. He 560 00:32:31,286 --> 00:32:36,806 Speaker 1: helped fix Jameis Winston, he helped fix Teddy two Gloves. 561 00:32:37,046 --> 00:32:41,526 Speaker 1: He helped fix Drew Brees as well, and they were 562 00:32:41,646 --> 00:32:44,486 Speaker 1: very prolific together. I think that he is going to 563 00:32:46,086 --> 00:32:49,046 Speaker 1: do a hard reset there and say, yo, Russ, this 564 00:32:49,206 --> 00:32:51,406 Speaker 1: is what we need to do to make you cook. 565 00:32:51,846 --> 00:32:54,766 Speaker 1: First off, you can't have your own office. Let's be 566 00:32:54,926 --> 00:32:57,846 Speaker 1: here with the guys. Let's do this, Let's figure this 567 00:32:57,966 --> 00:33:00,646 Speaker 1: thing out. And right now they're both getting paid a 568 00:33:00,726 --> 00:33:03,246 Speaker 1: lot of money, so they have to fix this thing. 569 00:33:03,326 --> 00:33:06,326 Speaker 1: And if there is one person that's out there who 570 00:33:06,406 --> 00:33:09,246 Speaker 1: could do it, I think it is definitely Sean Payne. 571 00:33:09,846 --> 00:33:13,286 Speaker 1: But also to the point of Russ having an office, 572 00:33:13,406 --> 00:33:16,766 Speaker 1: I don't think this even gets to a conversation where 573 00:33:16,766 --> 00:33:20,246 Speaker 1: they're negotiating Wishon without Russell having been in the mix. 574 00:33:20,366 --> 00:33:23,406 Speaker 1: If I'm Russ, yes, please, for the love of God, 575 00:33:23,486 --> 00:33:25,966 Speaker 1: bring in a man with a fifteen years of experience 576 00:33:26,006 --> 00:33:28,086 Speaker 1: that also has a Super Bowl ring, by the way, 577 00:33:28,446 --> 00:33:32,046 Speaker 1: to lead this team. I think this is interesting. Now 578 00:33:32,846 --> 00:33:35,446 Speaker 1: we were wondering if him and Hackett would be a 579 00:33:35,526 --> 00:33:37,966 Speaker 1: good duo. It looked like they were very chummy, and 580 00:33:38,246 --> 00:33:43,126 Speaker 1: it didn't. The vibes were not correct. So we'll see. 581 00:33:43,166 --> 00:33:46,526 Speaker 1: Because one thing about Champagne, he's not listening. He's gonna 582 00:33:46,566 --> 00:33:50,326 Speaker 1: get everybody together. Hey listen, he's from that Parcels coaching tree, right, 583 00:33:50,486 --> 00:33:52,486 Speaker 1: so he's not messing around. He's not. He's going to 584 00:33:52,606 --> 00:33:55,886 Speaker 1: go in there. He's going to establish the culture. He 585 00:33:56,086 --> 00:33:58,846 Speaker 1: commands that respect, as you mentioned, won that Super Bowl, 586 00:33:59,286 --> 00:34:02,246 Speaker 1: and I think this offense is really going to be 587 00:34:03,326 --> 00:34:07,366 Speaker 1: much better than what we saw this past year. And 588 00:34:08,006 --> 00:34:12,166 Speaker 1: it was another anecdote that was told that the the Broncos, 589 00:34:12,886 --> 00:34:17,126 Speaker 1: they don't care about how much money they spend on something. 590 00:34:17,246 --> 00:34:20,086 Speaker 1: There is no expense as much to that for them. 591 00:34:20,526 --> 00:34:23,606 Speaker 1: And even if if the turf isn't doing it, they 592 00:34:23,686 --> 00:34:26,526 Speaker 1: have to get new turf resided, whatever it is, they'll 593 00:34:26,566 --> 00:34:28,846 Speaker 1: pay four hundred thousand dollars whatever it is to do. 594 00:34:29,086 --> 00:34:32,126 Speaker 1: So he's also going to have spend an ownership that's 595 00:34:32,206 --> 00:34:36,566 Speaker 1: willing to expand, to spend at least with as much 596 00:34:36,606 --> 00:34:38,486 Speaker 1: as they're investing, because that's what it is. It's an 597 00:34:38,526 --> 00:34:42,006 Speaker 1: investment at this point in just this coaching and quarterback 598 00:34:42,086 --> 00:34:46,486 Speaker 1: duo masle Valley to have a winning record at minimum 599 00:34:47,086 --> 00:34:50,086 Speaker 1: in this coming season. All right, well, I like these 600 00:34:50,126 --> 00:34:52,286 Speaker 1: You're you're feeling generous today? Is it? You know I'm 601 00:34:52,326 --> 00:34:54,846 Speaker 1: not good with the stock market? Is it You're feeling bullish? 602 00:34:55,606 --> 00:34:59,126 Speaker 1: Very I don't know, I'm feeling a little bullish. Yeah, 603 00:34:59,286 --> 00:35:01,606 Speaker 1: I guess financial advisor sent me up. All right, um, 604 00:35:01,766 --> 00:35:05,526 Speaker 1: let's get it. Let's get financial. It's rough, very confusing. 605 00:35:06,086 --> 00:35:10,526 Speaker 1: What's not confusing is our final thoughts on this episode. 606 00:35:10,846 --> 00:35:13,526 Speaker 1: Let's got to ipoto. Well, what's your final thought for 607 00:35:13,606 --> 00:35:18,286 Speaker 1: this week? My final thought is it's been fun to 608 00:35:19,286 --> 00:35:23,206 Speaker 1: ride the Pro Bowl Games wave because it is going 609 00:35:23,326 --> 00:35:27,086 Speaker 1: to bring in a whole new audience, whether it's dodgeball 610 00:35:27,926 --> 00:35:33,446 Speaker 1: or trying to drive a golf ball or the crazy catches, 611 00:35:33,566 --> 00:35:36,606 Speaker 1: which is the equivalent of the slam dunk contest. And 612 00:35:37,086 --> 00:35:42,246 Speaker 1: I remember seeing stuffind digs dropping down and falling on 613 00:35:42,566 --> 00:35:47,086 Speaker 1: a table, uh, you know, crazy stuff like that. So 614 00:35:47,326 --> 00:35:50,606 Speaker 1: I'm gonna enjoy it and then really hunker down and 615 00:35:50,806 --> 00:35:55,446 Speaker 1: get fully focused on the Super Bowl. I will flow 616 00:35:55,566 --> 00:35:58,846 Speaker 1: with that same wave there with the Pro Bowl Games 617 00:35:58,886 --> 00:36:04,286 Speaker 1: because flag football game um features two of my favorite 618 00:36:04,366 --> 00:36:07,046 Speaker 1: quarterback in the Anna Flores who was the quarterback for 619 00:36:07,126 --> 00:36:10,966 Speaker 1: the Mexican national flag football team UM world champs, and 620 00:36:11,166 --> 00:36:15,086 Speaker 1: Vanita Crowd whose the US quarterback as well, and they 621 00:36:15,166 --> 00:36:20,206 Speaker 1: are offensive coordinators for each corresponding team. They'll be working 622 00:36:20,646 --> 00:36:22,966 Speaker 1: with the Manning brothers. I mean, this is going to 623 00:36:23,086 --> 00:36:25,926 Speaker 1: be phenomenal. I think the flag football game is going 624 00:36:26,006 --> 00:36:28,526 Speaker 1: to be really fun. The guys are going to get 625 00:36:28,566 --> 00:36:30,406 Speaker 1: after it, um and they have two of the best 626 00:36:30,566 --> 00:36:33,606 Speaker 1: leading them, so that'll be really cool. What a week 627 00:36:34,166 --> 00:36:36,166 Speaker 1: um Pro Bowl games coming up. We have a lot 628 00:36:36,166 --> 00:36:38,606 Speaker 1: of collegiate games too, coming up on NFL Network, and 629 00:36:38,686 --> 00:36:42,566 Speaker 1: then of course will be under We'll be in single 630 00:36:42,646 --> 00:36:45,806 Speaker 1: digits in our countdown to Super Bowl fifty seven. We 631 00:36:45,886 --> 00:36:48,686 Speaker 1: have a lot in store for all of you listening 632 00:36:49,086 --> 00:36:51,766 Speaker 1: here on l Huddle. 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