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Speaker 1: Every day exactly. We become our parents, just their version

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Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Vishel, I'm rather Strong, and I'm Wilfordell.

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Speaker 1: Are we in the same book. We're in the same book, right, Uh?

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Speaker 6: This one is called Chicken Soup for the Kid's Soul,

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Speaker 6: Week of a seven week cross country road trip, loving

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Speaker 1: Crazy cats, guys, are we are? We are.

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Speaker 6: Thinking about you. It's been a while since we've talked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that would have been ninety eight, so that

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Speaker 6: That it was like it's been a couple of weeks

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Speaker 6: Okay, let's jump into our Chicken Soup for the Kid's Soul.

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Speaker 6: It's the nineteen ninety eight installment of the immensely popular

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Speaker 6: They eventually landed on a very small publisher in Florida,

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Speaker 2: I got to write a blurb saying I liked chicken soup.

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Speaker 6: Of blurbs in this one that we can hit too.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, well, they'd eventually branch out of books. They

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Speaker 5: They bought, they bought Crackle and Red Box.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, chickens for that, I can't rent this movie.

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Speaker 6: Well, at least twenty six thousand red Box kiosks we

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Speaker 3: Well, just so you know, I follow the Red Box

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I can't, no, I do This was

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure how many of their books included celebrities,

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Speaker 5: And the foreword was from Muhammad Ali.

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Speaker 4: Cool when, by the way, to go along with this,

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Speaker 5: Just say you know, Charles, Charles, please, how dare you

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Speaker 1: the idea of this poem and my grandfather and my

441
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 1: relationship with him, and sort of made that into the

442
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,919
Speaker 1: chicken soup. And then I remember them coming back and

443
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,360
Speaker 1: making me change a bunch because they thought the vocabulary

444
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 1: was too complicated or hard for kids. And I pushed

445
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 1: back a little bit, and I remember David Combs, and

446
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,880
Speaker 1: I liked debating and discussing and then settling with what's

447
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,199
Speaker 1: in there? Which I hadn't read since I saw And

448
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 1: I was it's so, I don't know, it's okay.

449
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 5: I can't wait. I can't wait. I want to hear it.

450
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,400
Speaker 6: I want you to read it for us, please. It's

451
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 6: called my grandfather's gift.

452
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 1: Oh God, so painful that the voice itself is just

453
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 1: so boring, Oh writer, my grandfather's gift. A child's life

454
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: is like a piece of paper on which every person

455
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 1: leaves a mark Chinese proverb. When I was a child,

456
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 1: storytelling was an active part of my upbringing. My parents

457
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: fostered any activity that might exercise my imagination. As a

458
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 1: result of this encouragement, I have indeed become the modern

459
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 1: version of a storyteller, an actor. Surprisingly, not one relative

460
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 1: on either side of my family has ever taken up

461
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 1: this profession before. The only person to whom I can

462
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: trace a storytelling gene is my grandfather on my mother's side.

463
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 1: This grandfather, in the great tradition of grandfather's everywhere, has

464
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 1: always been a source of wisdom in my life. When

465
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: I was younger, my entire family would go camping, and

466
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 1: as it grew dark, we would roast marshmallows around a

467
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 1: fire and listen to my grandfather recite a poem. It

468
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: was always the same poem that my grandfather would recite

469
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 1: from memory. When my grandfather was fourteen, he discovered the

470
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: poem in a book of verse. He was working with

471
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: horses at the time, and he had read the poem

472
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 1: only two or three times. When one of his horses

473
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 1: had gotten loose, he was forced to chase the horse

474
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 1: for miles, and somewhere in the course of the chase,

475
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: he lost the book after only committing the first half

476
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 1: of the poem to memory. He tried for years to

477
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: find another copy of the poem, but not knowing the

478
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 1: author's name, he gave up his search, content to have

479
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: memorized only the beginning. My First Cigar is a poem

480
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 1: about a child's first attempt at smoking. Neither my grandfather

481
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 1: nor I have ever smoked, but the poem contained such

482
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: an endearing quality of innocent introspection that I was always

483
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: thoroughly entertained by it. It was not just the poem

484
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 1: that got to me. It was the light in my grandfather,

485
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: the lilt in his speech, and the sweeping movements of

486
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 1: his arms that would passionately involve me in the verse.

487
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: Each one of these performances would be cut short when

488
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: my grandfather would shrug and say, that's as far as

489
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: I memorized, and we would all nod and be left

490
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: wondering how the poem ended. We accepted his inability to

491
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: finish because we all knew why he could not. Last year,

492
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: about seventy years from the time my grandfather had originally

493
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 1: found the poem, he installed a computer system in his

494
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: local library free of charge. As a return favor, he

495
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: asked the library researchers to try to find my first cigar.

496
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: Several months later, one of them sent him the poem

497
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 1: through the mail. I remember reading the rest of it

498
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: for the first time with joy. My grandfather has never

499
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: recited the poem since, and I have never asked him to. Perhaps,

500
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: now that my grandfather knows the poem's ending, his personal

501
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: involvement with it is complete. For me, the story was

502
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: better when it was incomplete, when it still had a future.

503
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: I've since become actively involved in poetry, both reading and writing,

504
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: and I credit my interest in my grandfather entirely. It

505
00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: was a wonderful moment not long ago when I was

506
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 1: meming Wordsworth's poem My heart leaps up aloud, and my

507
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: grandfather surprised me when he said, I know that poem

508
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: and was able to recite it with me. He had

509
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: enjoyed the poem many years ago. I was memorizing it myself,

510
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: and it was here that our two generations were bridged.

511
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: After seventeen years of knowing my grandfather better than most

512
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 1: people I know in my life, every now and then

513
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: he still decides to open the treasure chest that is

514
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: his mind and surprise me with a gift of wisdom.

515
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 5: So beautiful, I love it. Do you want to do

516
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 5: you want to read the poem?

517
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: Then?

518
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 5: My first cigar?

519
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: Sure? Okay, my first cigar? Actually does it say who

520
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: it's by? It doesn't have the author's name on here.

521
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: Because they finally found it. We should probably get that.

522
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: Twas just behind the woodshed. One glorious summer day far

523
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: o'er the hills, the sinking sun pursued its western way,

524
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: and in my safe seclusion, removed from or the jar

525
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: and dim of Earth's confusion. I smoked my first cigar.

526
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: It was my first cigar. It was my worst cigar, raw, green, dank,

527
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: hide bound and rank. It was my first cigar, ah bright,

528
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: the boyish fancies, wrapped in smoke, wreath blue. My eyes

529
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: grew dim, My head was light. The woodshed round me

530
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: flew dark night closed in around me, black night without

531
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: a star, grim death. Methought had found me and spoiled

532
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: my first cigar. It was my first cigar, a six

533
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 1: for five cigar, no violer torch, the air could scorch.

534
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 1: It was my first cigar. All pallid was my beaded brow.

535
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: The really night was late. My startled mother cried in fear,

536
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: my child, What have you ate? I heard my father's

537
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: smothered laugh. It seemed so strange and far. I knew

538
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 1: he knew. I knew he knew. I'd smoked my first cigar.

539
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: It was my first cigar, a giveaway cigar. I could

540
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: not die. I knew not why it was my first cigar.

541
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: Since then, I've stood in reckless ways. I've dared what

542
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: men can dare. I've mocked a danger, walked with death.

543
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: I've laughed at pain and care. I do not dread

544
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: what may befall neath my malignant star. No frowning fate

545
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: again can make me smoke my first cigar.

546
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 4: Now I'm curious how far into the poem did did

547
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 4: he recite?

548
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: How pretty far? There's what he actually did now that

549
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. He actually he he remembered the

550
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: mom and the dad part and put that stanza earlier.

551
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: So he actually was missing about half the palm. But

552
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: he had remembered the parents reaction and that was where

553
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: he ended it. But there was also a part of

554
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: above that that that was also.

555
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 5: So he had like yeah, he just he just remembered his.

556
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: Favorite parts and then he couldn't remember how it ended,

557
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 1: which is too bad because the ending is hysterical, you know,

558
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: the idea that like I'm now the greatest, bravest person

559
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: because I can survive my cigar. But it was always

560
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: just about you know, he would stand up and swing

561
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: his arms and it would just get us all laughing,

562
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, but yeah, it was so funny,

563
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: like it's and it's crazy that they let me include

564
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: because it's about smoking. Like now, I don't think they

565
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: would ever do that, but you know, I mean, I

566
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: guess in a way. It's a it's anti smoking, it's.

567
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 5: Kind of anti smoking. It sounds pretty awful.

568
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 6: The poet is Robert J. Burdette. By the way, Robert J.

569
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 6: Burdette my first cigar. Well, from that beautiful story of

570
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 6: of you and your grandfather and poetry, I'd like to

571
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 6: give you a sharp contrast to to who you.

572
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 5: Were as people and I.

573
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 6: My story that I wrote was called a Friend by

574
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 6: Danielle Fischell, and it starts with a quote friendships multiply

575
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 6: joys and divide grief by Thomas Fuller.

576
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 5: Here we go.

577
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 6: Recently, one of my best friends, whom I've shared just

578
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 6: about everything with since the first day of kindergarten, spent the.

579
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 5: Weekend with me.

580
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 6: Since I moved to a new town several years ago,

581
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 6: we've both always looked forward to the few times a

582
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 6: year when we can see each other. Over the weekend,

583
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 6: we spent hours and hours staying up late into the

584
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 6: night talking about the people she was hanging around with.

585
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 6: She started telling me stories about her boyfriend, about how

586
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 6: he experimented with drugs and was into other self destructive behavior.

587
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 5: I was blown away. She told me how she had been.

588
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 6: Lying to her parents about where she was going, and

589
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 6: even sneaking out to see this guy because they didn't

590
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 6: want her around him. No matter how hard I tried

591
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 6: to tell her that she deserved better, she didn't believe me.

592
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 6: Her self respect seemed to have disappeared. I tried to

593
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 6: convince her that she was ruining her future pooh and

594
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 6: heading for big trouble. I felt like I was getting nowhere.

595
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 6: I just couldn't believe that she really thought that it

596
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 6: was acceptable to hang with a bunch of losers, especially

597
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 6: her boyfriend. By the time she left, I was really

598
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 6: worried about her and exhausted by the experience. It had

599
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 6: been so frustrating. I had come close to telling her

600
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 6: several times during the weekend that maybe we had just

601
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 6: grown too far apart to continue our friendship, but I didn't.

602
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 6: I put the power of friendship to the ultimate test.

603
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 6: We'd been friends for far too long. I had to

604
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 6: hope that she valued me enough to know that I

605
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 6: was trying to save her from hurting herself. I wanted

606
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 6: to believe that our friendship could conquer anything. A few

607
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 6: days later, she called to say that she had thought

608
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 6: long and hard about our conversation, and then she told

609
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 6: me that she had broken up with her boyfriend. I

610
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 6: just listened on the other end of the phone with

611
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 6: tears of joy running down my face. It was one

612
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 6: of the truly rewarding moments in my life. Never had

613
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 6: I been so proud of a friend. And then after

614
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 6: the story, there are small submissions from teens and preteens

615
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 6: about what they believe a friend is like. A friend

616
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 6: never blames everything on you or helps you get up

617
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 6: when you fall at the roller skating rink. But before

618
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 6: we get into theirs, I kick it off with some

619
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 6: of my wisdom. A friend won't allow you to self distract,

620
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 6: will take all the time that's needed, no matter what

621
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 6: time of day, to listen to your problems and give

622
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 6: you her best advice. Is someone who can open up

623
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,239
Speaker 6: and be herself around you, will swallow her pride to

624
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 6: take your advice, will never write you off.

625
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 5: By Daniel Fish, So, I mean.

626
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: Do you remember I'm a nark?

627
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: So you're the one who had had my girlfriend break

628
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 4: up with me just because I was doing drugs.

629
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: That was me and I was a very good little nark.

630
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 5: If you or anyone you.

631
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: Know you did not knark on anybody.

632
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: That's show you gave advice.

633
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: I thought, and the first time through I was like, oh, wait,

634
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: is this about her giving an ultimatum to her friend

635
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: because you said I made the ultima sacrifice. But then

636
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: I reread it was like, oh no, she actually is

637
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: a very mature point, which is like, I'm not going

638
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: to not be your friend. I'm going to love you

639
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: and trust you, but I'm also going to be straight

640
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: with you. Y how old were you?

641
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 6: Nineteen ninety eight, so, I mean at this point, by

642
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 6: the time it was printed, I was seventeen. But this

643
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 6: conversation did happen when I was around fifteen?

644
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was seventeen. I said, I said something

645
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: about seventeen in mine, so I thought, I figured.

646
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, this conversation. I remember this conversation.

647
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 6: I remember the situation and we were we were to

648
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 6: fourteen or fifteen?

649
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: What kind of drugs?

650
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 5: I don't really remember. I don't remember.

651
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: I mean, did this guy like smoke a joint once

652
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: or was certain smack?

653
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 6: No, I don't, I don't remember. I don't remember what

654
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 6: it was. I also remember that what I didn't include

655
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 6: in the book is I think he had also like

656
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 6: grabbed her by the arm. He had gotten he'd even

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Speaker 6: gotten like physical with her, and it was like, I,

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Speaker 6: I was really shocked that she was. She had never

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Speaker 6: really shocking weekend. But yeah, it's.

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Speaker 1: Too bad you can't get specific because you know, I

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Speaker 1: feel like left in the generic terms of he was doing,

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Speaker 1: he was a loser. It's kind of like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you could just go the goody two shoes who sucks,

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Speaker 1: But if you know, the specifics are kind of the

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Speaker 1: point in this sex. You know, like your judgment should

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Speaker 1: be based on actually what you were judging, and we

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Speaker 1: should be able to hear that. Otherwise it's kind of.

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Speaker 5: Like exactly, And that's what I think.

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Speaker 6: My biggest takeaway from the story was was like, either

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Speaker 6: I either didn't because I felt like it was a

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Speaker 6: to give the details, or they.

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Speaker 5: Wouldn't allow me to give the details. They may not

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Speaker 5: have wanted me to.

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Speaker 2: Are you still friends with this person?

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Speaker 5: No, I haven't seen her in forever.

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Speaker 6: Unfortunately she's dating a loser because she was dating a loser.

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Speaker 2: She was dating. This is what happens.

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Speaker 5: I said, you know what, we've just grown too far apart.

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Speaker 1: There's no one phrase other self destructive behavior. That's just

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Speaker 1: doing a lot of work in this exactly what does

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Speaker 1: others self destructive? What are other things you.

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Speaker 5: Don't need to know?

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Speaker 6: Just trust me, he's a loser not going to church,

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Speaker 6: for instance, saying nighttime prayers.

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Speaker 1: You know, who knows what Danielle was.

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Speaker 6: Upsets what Danielle could have been so curious about? But

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Speaker 6: I yeah, anyway, we writer and I were very different teens.

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Speaker 1: It's a difficultween seventeen and fifteen too, Like.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true, that's true.

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Speaker 6: Well, thank you for taking this trip down memory lane

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Speaker 6: with the chicken soup for the soul with us. If

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Speaker 6: you need any advice on how to not you know,

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Speaker 6: be an arc, or how to call your friend's boyfriend's losers, or.

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Speaker 5: If you I'm also looking your first cigar.

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Speaker 6: Or if you want to, we're figuring out how to

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Speaker 6: get rid of your first cigar the taste in your mouth.

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