WEBVTT - What Is A Superconductor?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Daniel, When you think of physics, what images come

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<v Speaker 1>to mind for you? I think of the cosmos, I

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<v Speaker 1>think of planets. I think of the fire inside the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of crazy people with weird hair when you

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<v Speaker 1>look in the mirror. When you think of physics, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the difference? Well, what about a dance party. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say that's in the top one thousand associations I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Might maybe not even in the top five thousand. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out that physics and dance actually have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in common. They have a lot of fun connections.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right? Yeah, they can help us understand the

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<v Speaker 1>topic of our podcast to day. That's right. Thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>the way people dance and the way they shake their

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<v Speaker 1>booty could actually help you understand the physics, the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>topic of today's podcast. So get out there, shake your

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<v Speaker 1>and get ready to download some physics into your brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Get into the groove. It's time for physics. Hi'm h

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Daniel. Welcome to our podcast, Dancing with Physicists.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the podcast Daniel and Jorge explain the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>in which we take something weird, something fascinating in the

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<v Speaker 1>universe and try to explain it to you, sometimes using

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<v Speaker 1>dance to be on the podcast, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a physics phenomenon that is everywhere. It's everywhere, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's helping make some of the greatest scientific experiments in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. That's right. It's really important, it's fascinating, it's weird,

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<v Speaker 1>it's quantum, and yet it's not really very well understood.

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<v Speaker 1>And more most important, it's super that's right. And it conducts.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh what, it's conductive. There you go, that's right. The

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<v Speaker 1>topic of today's podcast is super conductors. What are they?

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<v Speaker 1>Who are they? Who are they? Super? No? Super conductivity

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<v Speaker 1>is fascinating question, something behind a lot of really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>research in the last few decades, and something we thought

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<v Speaker 1>was worth getting into because there's a lot of puzzles there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking, the first time I heard about

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<v Speaker 1>super conductors was in the eighties, right, and let's when

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<v Speaker 1>it sort of became this big buzz about it. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a lot of big advances in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>How old were you in the eighties? Or I was

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<v Speaker 1>old enough apparently to read about science news, but but

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<v Speaker 1>you would always see it tied to the to this

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<v Speaker 1>footage of this little magnet floating on top of something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a classic application of super conductivity. Yeah. Yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think forever, that's what people think of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people think of when they think of super conductors,

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<v Speaker 1>like that one image. Yeah, there's that. There's also the

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<v Speaker 1>super conducting super collider that they were going to build

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas in the nineties that was going to cost

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<v Speaker 1>a huge amount of money and that they canceled halfway through.

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<v Speaker 1>And so a lot of people connect those two phrases

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<v Speaker 1>super conducting and super colliding. Oh yeah, no, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hear about that one in the eighties. Um, So it

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<v Speaker 1>sort of seems like it's been out there in the

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<v Speaker 1>popular culture for a while, and but we were wondering

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<v Speaker 1>how much people knew about it, and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>part of the popular culture and the people maybe have

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<v Speaker 1>heard about it or whatever. It's strangely, it hasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>entered like, um, you know, um comic books or science

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<v Speaker 1>fiction that much. You don't see like super conducting technology

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place in science fiction. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen that comic called The super Conductor Adventures of

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<v Speaker 1>Crime Fighting super Conductor. That's right, During the day, he's

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<v Speaker 1>just a mild mannered, regular bus conductor, but at night

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<v Speaker 1>he's a super duper conductor. No, I haven't seen that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't see it. Um. You know, playing a

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<v Speaker 1>prominent role in science fiction movies like particle physics is

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere in science fiction movies. The Higgs boson explains everything

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<v Speaker 1>and causes problems, etcetera. But you don't see super conductivity

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<v Speaker 1>used and abused much in popular culture. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>I missed it? Yeah, I don't know. I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>not flashy, right, it's not um. It's not a word

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds as cool as quantum or leasers or higgs boson. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so I went around campus and I asked people, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what super conductivity is? Can you explain it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you understand it? Here's what people had to say.

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<v Speaker 1>What about super conductivity? Have you heard of that? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you explain that? Best? Guess maybe it has two

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<v Speaker 1>conductors and for some stuff. Okay, uh, yeah, I've also

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<v Speaker 1>heard of it, but I also have no idea either. Okay, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a phenomena that happens at very low temperatures because

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<v Speaker 1>electrons have very low resistance to movement due to the

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<v Speaker 1>very slow vibrations of the matrix of the metal of

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<v Speaker 1>the nucleus of the atom, so the electrons have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more space to move through. Something along those lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the one with the magnets and they could float.

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<v Speaker 1>That's about all I know about that one where no

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<v Speaker 1>I can guess though, Um, my conductivity with like wires,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, or like metal so super conductive, then it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good conductor, doesn't burn out. I would assume that

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<v Speaker 1>it has something to do with objects that are conductive. Alright, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I like the person who said that it has

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<v Speaker 1>something to do with conductors and force and stuff. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's somebody out there who clearly is reading the

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<v Speaker 1>same magazine you were, because they're like, oh, it has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with magnets that can float. Yeah, yeah, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know which clip I'm talking about? I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they used the same clip for years and years and

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<v Speaker 1>years and years and years. Yeah. I totally know what

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<v Speaker 1>you mean. A little black magnet floating over a very

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<v Speaker 1>cool surface. With like liquid hydrogen sublimating off of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty cool looking. And then somebody comes and pokes

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<v Speaker 1>the magnet and it just keeps floating there. Yeah, exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So people had some sense, you know, they knew what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. Nobody was like, I've never heard that word before,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? Right, But nobody could explain

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<v Speaker 1>it to me. Like some people knew you had to

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<v Speaker 1>be cold to be a superconductor, but nobody could give

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<v Speaker 1>me a solid explanation for what it was and how

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<v Speaker 1>it worked. Right. I guess this one has something understandable,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a conductor, and you know, I guess people

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<v Speaker 1>in high school figure out that or learned that it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that conducts electricity, and so a super conductor must

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<v Speaker 1>just be something that is super ad That's right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>awesome at conducting extracity. Right, that should be the next discovery.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome conductors. That's right. Superconductors last year, this year, awesome

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<v Speaker 1>conductors next year, uber conductors. Um. But there is really

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<v Speaker 1>something special about superconductors, which is not just that they

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<v Speaker 1>can conduct a lot, but that they conduct with no

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<v Speaker 1>resistance at all, where that you can't have anything better

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<v Speaker 1>than a superconductor. So it is pretty amazing, and they

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<v Speaker 1>are really important for things like particle physics, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a lot of really cool applications. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a physics phenomenon that has really great applications for

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<v Speaker 1>important experiments like the Large Hadron collider. That's right, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's also a really fun physics puzzle. You know. The

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<v Speaker 1>kind of physics that I do personally is like take

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<v Speaker 1>everything apart and understand the smallest bits. That's totally worthwhile

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<v Speaker 1>obviously and leads to deep insights. But there's a whole different,

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<v Speaker 1>other kind of way of doing physics that's like can

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<v Speaker 1>we put things together in a weird way that makes

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<v Speaker 1>weird materials? You know, we have lots of materials around

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<v Speaker 1>us on Earth that we're familiar with, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>think like can we rearrange those bits to make new

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of stuff. So there's a whole group of people

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<v Speaker 1>out there in physics departments because basically all their job

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<v Speaker 1>is is to make new kinds of goo, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's mix this together and add a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>that and a little bit of this, and maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>we zap it with a laser will get this weird

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<v Speaker 1>crystal with strange behaviors that like nothing anybody's ever seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you talking about solid state physics? Yeah? These days

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<v Speaker 1>I think they call it condensed matter physics. But essentially, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, can we build new kinds of stuff? It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the properties of bulk materials, you know, UM, not

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<v Speaker 1>individual particles, but like what happens when you put all

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<v Speaker 1>these different kinds of particles together in a certain lattice

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<v Speaker 1>and a certain in a certain arrangement. Do they behave

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<v Speaker 1>in strange ways? And what can we learn about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what solids can and cannot do, right, because they do

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<v Speaker 1>different things right, Like, you can make things behave in

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<v Speaker 1>a totally different, a new way just by the way

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<v Speaker 1>you arrange them. Yeah, and you know, the periodic table

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<v Speaker 1>is the first lesson of that. Everything in the periodic

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<v Speaker 1>table is made out of the same bits, right, protons

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<v Speaker 1>and neutrons and electrons, but they're pretty different, right. Uranium

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty different stuff than lithium, for example, And so

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<v Speaker 1>you can get an incredible variety of behaviors just by

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<v Speaker 1>rearranging the same stuff. And so solid state physics, that

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<v Speaker 1>whole field UM is just taking that to in extremes

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<v Speaker 1>like how can we combine these elements and zap them

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<v Speaker 1>and chill them and heat them and do all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of crazy stuff. It's basically like cooking, right, what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cakes can you make with the same ingredients right

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<v Speaker 1>that that taste totally different exactly and can float above

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<v Speaker 1>your countertop? Right? Super connecting cakes, that's the next breakthrough.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just renaate that department stuff physics, physics, stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>physics of stuff. Yeah, exactly, the physics of stuff. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is pretty interesting. Rights, the whole podcast called stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You should know how stuff works? Then we should join

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<v Speaker 1>that podcast network. I think there's stuffed pretty full cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into it all right, um, and let's

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<v Speaker 1>break it down. So let's what's a superconductor. Let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with just the conductor part. Dig in a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>into what it means to be a conductor, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>a conductor is something where electricity can move through it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And you have to understand the electricity moving through it

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<v Speaker 1>is not necessarily the same as like electrons flowing through it.

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<v Speaker 1>You put the electricity on one side of a of

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<v Speaker 1>a wire and you get electricity on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the wire. It's tempting to think about it like

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<v Speaker 1>a hose, like you put water on one side and

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<v Speaker 1>water comes out the other side. Like a tube. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like a tube. And you know what happens is you

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<v Speaker 1>put electrons in on one side and the electrons all

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<v Speaker 1>sort of shift over like it's it's like a tube

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<v Speaker 1>full of water. You put a little bit of water

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<v Speaker 1>in the front, and a little bit of a different

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<v Speaker 1>piece of water that was already in there pushes out

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<v Speaker 1>the side. It's kind of like um, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a two and you blow in it. The air that

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<v Speaker 1>comes out the the end is not necessarily the air

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<v Speaker 1>they came out of your mouth. It's like it causes

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of it pushes all the air through and

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that come out are the ones that we're

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<v Speaker 1>waiting closest to the end exactly. And that's only possible

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<v Speaker 1>if the electrons can move. Right. And so a conductor

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<v Speaker 1>is just any material where you have electrons that can

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<v Speaker 1>jump from atom to atom. Right. Think about a material

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<v Speaker 1>and a microscopic scale, it's really a bunch of atoms, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And if it's simple or regular, then it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>lattice like a grid, and it's like regularly distributed atoms,

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<v Speaker 1>and the electrons can jump from one to the other.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you blow on one side, you like pushing

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<v Speaker 1>about some electrons on one side, then all the electrons

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<v Speaker 1>sort of hop over one slot and you get some

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<v Speaker 1>out the other side. It's kind of like, um, like

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<v Speaker 1>playing hot potato. Yeah exactly. And the difference between something

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<v Speaker 1>that can conduct electricity a conductor, and something that can't,

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<v Speaker 1>an insulator, is that conductors have enough electrons that can

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<v Speaker 1>jump between atoms, whereas insulators have all their electrons held

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<v Speaker 1>really tight by each of those atoms in the grid,

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<v Speaker 1>so that there's no way for the electrons to jump

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<v Speaker 1>from one to the other. Conductors have these free electrons

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<v Speaker 1>that are sort of just like floating around happily. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's something that is not a conductor doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a spare electrons, or they don't they don't

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<v Speaker 1>let electrons fly around freely. Yeah exactly. And so and

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<v Speaker 1>you just you know, you put electrons on one side

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<v Speaker 1>and they just go nowhere, right, So you can't get

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<v Speaker 1>electrons through the material. Okay, so wait, wait, why not?

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<v Speaker 1>So I introduce an electron in an insulator and something

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't conduct what's going to happen to the electron?

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<v Speaker 1>It won't go through, yeah, it just it won't cause

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<v Speaker 1>a current. Right, you can't get a current through there.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get all the electrons to jump over one

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<v Speaker 1>atom for example. Okay, so it's kind of like, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>a conductor has a bunch of atoms, and everyone kind

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<v Speaker 1>of has everyone's pretty loose with their electrons. That's right. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's one. Oh, I'll take one. R I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>another one. Oh. Um, electrons can just kind of flow

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<v Speaker 1>through from atom to atom. Yeah, And it's best to

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<v Speaker 1>think of them really as a lattice, because these atoms

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<v Speaker 1>individually act a little different than they do when they're

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<v Speaker 1>together in a material. And when they're together in a material,

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<v Speaker 1>the electrons slash easily back and forth between them. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>for a conductor, for an insulator, that doesn't happen. And

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<v Speaker 1>then of course there's lots of different kinds of conductors

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<v Speaker 1>that things that are good conductors and things that are

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<v Speaker 1>bad conductors. And by a lattice, you mean like a

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<v Speaker 1>like a grid or like a like a rack, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the electrons are arranged kind of like um in rows

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<v Speaker 1>and in columns, right, Yeah, exactly. If you zoom in

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<v Speaker 1>on a crystal, for example, or a piece of metal,

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<v Speaker 1>anything that has a regular arrangement of the atoms, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see that they're organized in this in this pattern right there,

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<v Speaker 1>built out of these basic units, and that they're pretty regular.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's like lines of atoms. Um, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just like a big heaping mess. Right. Um, These these solids,

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<v Speaker 1>these metals, these things that are conductors are pretty well organized,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you'll see them in rows and and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what we mean by the lattice. You have

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<v Speaker 1>just like a grid of atoms. And so you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>like us can flow through or jump freely between atoms,

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<v Speaker 1>but not perfectly right, that's right. And here's where the

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<v Speaker 1>temperature comes in. So, Um, the colder the material is.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about what temperature really is. What is temperature? It's

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<v Speaker 1>how much the atoms inside something are wiggling. The atoms

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<v Speaker 1>inside liquid are wiggling more than the atoms inside of solid, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why it's liquid, and the atoms inside of

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<v Speaker 1>gas are totally free and bouncing around everywhere. But even

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<v Speaker 1>inside of solid, even if it's solid, you have different temperatures. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>You can have a piece of metal that's hot or

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<v Speaker 1>piece of metal that's cold. What's happening there is that

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<v Speaker 1>the atoms are moving less, right, They're wiggling less, and

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<v Speaker 1>as it gets colder and colder, they wiggle less and

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<v Speaker 1>less and less. And this is important for the electron

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<v Speaker 1>because remember, it's trying to jump from atom to atom.

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<v Speaker 1>That's easier when the atoms are not wiggling around, when

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<v Speaker 1>they're like regularly spaced rows, like when they're frozen in place. Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's where the dance analogy comes in. Right. Imagine trying

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<v Speaker 1>to walk through a crowd and everybody's like jumping. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a mosh pit, right, and they're going crazy into

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<v Speaker 1>punk consider or something. It's really hard to get across

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<v Speaker 1>the crowded room if everybody's jostling and bouncing and moving

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<v Speaker 1>around a lot, Right, It's much easier if they're calm,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're like, you know, slow dancing or something. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, yeah, you would. If it's a marsh

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<v Speaker 1>pit and everyone's moving and dancing, you would just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lose a lot of energy just kind of bumping

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<v Speaker 1>against people and just trying to make it through. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You would lose a lot of energy. That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the resistance, right. So electrical resistance is electrons losing

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<v Speaker 1>energy as they bump into the atoms that are wriggling

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<v Speaker 1>around because they're moving like. It's related to the kinetic

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<v Speaker 1>motion of the atoms. Yeah, absolutely, it's related to the

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<v Speaker 1>kinetic motion of the atoms. It makes it harder for

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<v Speaker 1>the electrons to get through and as they get through,

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<v Speaker 1>they lose some energy. Right. Okay, so that's resistance, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's um vehicles. The resistance of a wire or a conductor,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it is. It's it's like electrons going through

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<v Speaker 1>but sort of bumping too much into the atoms. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so things that are conductors have low resistance, and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to use things that have low resistance so

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<v Speaker 1>that most of the energy you're sending along a wire,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, gets there. And if you use something with

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<v Speaker 1>low resistance like copper or gold, then most of the

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<v Speaker 1>energy you put into a wire will get to the

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<v Speaker 1>other side. If you use something with really bad resistance,

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of resistance, then it will heat up

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<v Speaker 1>the wire. That energy from the electrons will create resistance,

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<v Speaker 1>which turns into heat and that's not good. But sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you sort of want resistance, right, Like in circuits, some

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<v Speaker 1>resistors are sometimes good. Yeah, sometimes you want resistance so

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<v Speaker 1>you can put it in on purpose. For example, a

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<v Speaker 1>light bulb, that's a resistor, right. What it does is

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<v Speaker 1>it steals the energy from the electrons and it heats

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<v Speaker 1>of the material, which then glows and gives you light.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome if that's what you wanted, right, But you don't

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<v Speaker 1>really want them wires in your house glowing. You want

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<v Speaker 1>them to transmit that energy to your iPhone or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is you're sending. And those power lines along the road, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want those heating up and melting. Want those

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<v Speaker 1>to transmit the energy from the power station to your

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<v Speaker 1>house without losing much energy. Unless you your house is

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<v Speaker 1>a dance floor, that would be pretty cool, Like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you going to power those speakers without the electrons? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the speakers will glow too. Sounds like an awesome party,

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<v Speaker 1>Send me an invite. And I think that brings us

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<v Speaker 1>to the cool point, which is that the resistance of

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<v Speaker 1>a conductor depends on the temperature. Yeah, exactly, So as

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<v Speaker 1>it gets colder, the lattice, this grid of atoms gets

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<v Speaker 1>more regular, and it gets easier for the electrons to

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<v Speaker 1>get through, and so the resistance goes down with temperature.

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<v Speaker 1>So hot wire is harder to get electrons through it

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<v Speaker 1>because all the apps are are moving more. But a

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<v Speaker 1>cold wire lets the electrons flow easy, more easy. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, cool, that's that's a conductor, not somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>drives a bus or directs an orchestra. That person is

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<v Speaker 1>also a conductor. Yeah, but is he a superconductor? Is

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<v Speaker 1>he resistant? Does he glow? Does he steal energy from

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<v Speaker 1>innocent electrons? All right, that's a conductor, And now let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into superconductors. But first let's take a quick break,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Daniel, So it fills in what is a

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<v Speaker 1>super conductor and what is so super about them? Superconductors

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<v Speaker 1>are really pretty super. The thing that makes them super

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<v Speaker 1>is that they have zero resistance, not just like very small,

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<v Speaker 1>not like Ebsalon resistance, but zero, like zero point zero

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<v Speaker 1>zero zero zero. Keep going with the zeros there, man,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's zero all the way. Okay, Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It means that, for example, if you had a loop

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<v Speaker 1>of super connecting wire, you could put a current into

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<v Speaker 1>it and it would just zoom around it forever. It

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<v Speaker 1>would like never get used up. It's a pretty hard

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<v Speaker 1>concept to imagine. It's like, it's like living in a

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<v Speaker 1>world without friction. And you know, it's like imagine you

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<v Speaker 1>had a sheet of ice, you pushed a block on it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you expect it to go for a while and then

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<v Speaker 1>eventually slow down because every surface has some friction. But

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<v Speaker 1>what if you had a perfectly smooth surface with no

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<v Speaker 1>resistance and you pushed it, it would just go forever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a perpetual motion machine. Yeah, sort of like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it kind of like if you if you're

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<v Speaker 1>out in space and you start spinning something a top,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just going to keep spinning for a long time

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<v Speaker 1>because there's nothing there's no air, no resistance, no nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to stop it from spinning. That's right, yeah, exactly. And

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<v Speaker 1>so a superconductor is something that has zero resistance and

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<v Speaker 1>so the electrons can just flow right through it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing, all right. So let's get into how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what's cool I heard is that physicists

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know what's going on. Yeah, well, there's some

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<v Speaker 1>there are different kinds of superconductors, and some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty well understood, the old fashioned ones, the classic ones.

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<v Speaker 1>But rees they've made a bunch of really strange superconductors

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<v Speaker 1>um that nobody really understands in great detail. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we have some simulations we can describe it, but a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it's just too complicated or like write down

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<v Speaker 1>equations on paper that we can understand. Okay, So there's

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<v Speaker 1>different flavors of superconductors. Yeah, the first thing they all

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<v Speaker 1>have in common is that you've got to get it cold.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we were saying earlier, you want to lower the

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<v Speaker 1>resistance first, get it cold, and so chill that thing down.

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<v Speaker 1>And people built refrigerators to get things down to like

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<v Speaker 1>really really really cold temperatures like ten or twenty degrees kelvin.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's like just above absolute zero. And and

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<v Speaker 1>the point is that one gets colder that cold, the

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<v Speaker 1>grid in the material stops moving, it stops vibrating, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. And you can't get anything down to actually

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<v Speaker 1>absolute zero, but you can get it down really really cold,

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<v Speaker 1>and the grid stops vibrating, as you say, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it gets easier and easier for electrons to go through,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that will bring you down to low resistant,

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<v Speaker 1>even very low. Some might even say super low, but

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<v Speaker 1>it won't get you all the way down to zero resistance. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I see, if you just had a regular like if

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<v Speaker 1>I took a copper wire and I froze it to

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<v Speaker 1>almost zero kelvin, it would give me pretty low resistance,

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<v Speaker 1>but not necessarily zero resistance. I don't actually know if

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<v Speaker 1>copper can become a superconductor, but I just mean that

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<v Speaker 1>chilling it down is not the all the explanation. To

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<v Speaker 1>explain how something loses its resistance. You need more than

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<v Speaker 1>just understanding that it gets colder and therefore it's easier

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<v Speaker 1>for the electrons to go through. You need there's another

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<v Speaker 1>piece of the explanation. There's some extra magic going on there,

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<v Speaker 1>some extra dance magic. Yeah, exactly, because physics, if you

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<v Speaker 1>just think about the temperature physics as you shouldn't have superconductors,

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<v Speaker 1>but we do have them. It was in the early

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<v Speaker 1>part of the twentieth century that people made superconductors and

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<v Speaker 1>observed it, and people thought, what, how is this even possible?

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<v Speaker 1>And then the theorists spend decades thinking about it and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to come up with explanations like we know this exists, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this one favorite things in science when we have something

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<v Speaker 1>we know it exists, but we don't know how it

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<v Speaker 1>can work, Like it doesn't seem like it should be possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet here we have one. And then one night they

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<v Speaker 1>went dancing and they figured it all out. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>They were getting knocked over in the mosh pit, and

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<v Speaker 1>when they woke up from their concussion, they had a

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant idea. Well, that's that's kind of the analogy here, right, Like, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're this is a dance party and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>mosh bit and people are jumping and going crazy, it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be really hard to go through it. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly turn out the music and everyone did the manne

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<v Speaker 1>Can challenge, it would be a lot easier to walk

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<v Speaker 1>through it. But it wouldn't be perfectly easy to go through.

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<v Speaker 1>You still might bump into people, rub against people, and

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<v Speaker 1>so the resistance would be low, but not zero. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So to get down to zero and took a really

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<v Speaker 1>clever bit of thinking boy theorists to explain how this

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<v Speaker 1>could work. And it comes down to a concept called

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper pairs. And the short version of the explanation is

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<v Speaker 1>that lecture don't go through individually, they gather together into

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<v Speaker 1>pairs like you know, like pair dancing, um, like you know,

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 1>square dancing or waltzing or whatever. Oh my goodness, the

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:13.399
<v Speaker 1>dance analogies don't stop. Why should they write? It's a

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<v Speaker 1>dance party to the end of time? Um, and going

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<v Speaker 1>through in pairs they can accomplish actually zero resistance, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so um, it's sort of related to some quantum effects, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>at some point to get to zero resistance, you need

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of quantum magic to make an up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really awesome because it's really fun when quantum

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<v Speaker 1>mechanics is not just like hidden under the rugs, some

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<v Speaker 1>tiny little effect that only affects tiny particles, when it

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<v Speaker 1>actually gives you a macroscopic thing that you can measure,

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<v Speaker 1>that you can see, you can prove. Look, quantum mechanics

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<v Speaker 1>is real and this is an example of that. And

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<v Speaker 1>to understand it, a little bit of quantum mechanics you

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<v Speaker 1>need to know is just that electrons are a certain

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<v Speaker 1>kind of particle we call them fermons, and that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of particle doesn't like to share. It doesn't like to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the same state as another kind of article.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can't have two electrons both occupying, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest rung on the energy ladder of an atom.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't like to be in the same one. So

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>this one already there, the next one will feel the

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.479
<v Speaker 1>second rung, and the next one will feel the third rung.

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.119
<v Speaker 1>They don't all like to hang out together on the

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 1>bottom rung, right, Usually they like to dance solo. That's right, exactly.

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.760
<v Speaker 1>They all think they're the best dancer ever Ene danced

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 1>by themselves in the Dance Lord. But what happens when

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 1>you get two of them together is that they act

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 1>like the other kind of quantum particle. We call those bosons,

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 1>And bosons are totally happy to pile up on top

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 1>of each other and they can occupy the same state,

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 1>no big deal. Maybe you've heard of a Bose Einstein condensate.

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>That's an example of a bunch of bosons getting really

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.360
<v Speaker 1>really cold and all sitting in exactly the same quantum state,

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the lowest energy state, and then they all act together

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and do really weird quantum effects. We should do a

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.679
<v Speaker 1>whole podcast on the Bosonstein condensate. That's pretty cool stuff.

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:58.879
<v Speaker 1>But there's something going on because normally electrons don't like

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.400
<v Speaker 1>to pair up like this, But when you cool down

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>a superconductor, suddenly it becomes possible and even preferable for

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:09.360
<v Speaker 1>them to pair up. Yeah. Well, electrons are both negatively charged, right,

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and so they don't like to hang out with each other.

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.160
<v Speaker 1>They repel each other quite a bit. But you only

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>need a very slight attraction this. These Cooper pairs are

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>not like they're not like really bound tightly together, just

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of like loosely associated. You know, they're like two

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:25.880
<v Speaker 1>people eyeing each other across the dance floor, sending signals

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.400
<v Speaker 1>back and forth. So can you describe the effect here,

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>like why do they pair up and how that helps

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 1>him flow through the material. The reason they pair up

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 1>is that they essentially they deform the lattice in this

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>in the same way, so like they're moving through the

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>lattice together. There's grid of atoms, and you know, think

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 1>of the lattice like you might think of like a mattress, right,

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 1>like on your bed um. If you sit down in

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the mattress, it makes a depression in it. Right, If

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 1>somebody else sits on the mattress, it also makes a depression.

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 1>And which way are you most likely to roll? Right?

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>If there's a depression on the mattress another one next

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to it that you're gonna lean in towards the center,

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>unless you have like a really awesome, very expensive mattress.

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>But making one depression makes it makes you attracted to

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:11.679
<v Speaker 1>the next depression, right, And so that's what kind of

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>brings the electrons together m exactly. They sort of shake

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the lattice in this way that makes them more likely

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>to be closer to each other than further apart. And

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 1>it has to be cold, because if the whole bed

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 1>is shaking and moving, you know, this effect is not

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna matter. Be careful. Pretty soon we're gonna be doing

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.880
<v Speaker 1>analogies involving dancing and beds, and you know where that's

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>going to go. Dirty dancing. Yeah, keep your dancing vertical here, folks,

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:45.679
<v Speaker 1>I see where are you going with that key pokey?

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 1>So the electrons are moving through the lattice, and they

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:56.959
<v Speaker 1>like to stay together. This is a very small attractive

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>force that keeps them in pairs. You know, it doesn't

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>they don't like it's not like they're you know, it's

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 1>a snow particle with a minus to charge or anything.

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>They're just sort of like grouped together as they move

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>through the lattice um and because the electrons by themselves

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>are fermions, things that don't like to share states, but

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>together they're bosons, then they act differently. If you heard,

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:22.640
<v Speaker 1>for example, of liquid helium. Liquid helium is a super fluid.

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:26.679
<v Speaker 1>It's something that can flow without any resistance. And the

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>reason is that helium is a boson, right, the atom

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>itself is a boson, and and when it gets really

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>really cold, they can flow without resistance. And so electrons

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>are kind of like that. When they get really really cold,

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>they pair up, and these cooper pairs are boson, so

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>they can share states just like liquid helium atoms, and

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>they can then they can slide through the lattice with

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>with basically zero resistance. It's sort of incredible. It's kind

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>of like individually, there's this this this whole mess of

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:56.640
<v Speaker 1>atoms blocking their way. But once they pair up, it's

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>almost like the laws of physics. They're operating under a

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 1>different instead of laws of physics almost, And so then

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>suddenly the highway opens up in front of him. Yeah,

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like following somebody through a dance floor is easier

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>than going through the dance floor yourself. Right, And so

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>two people moving through the dance floor together sort of

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 1>orbiting around each other a little bit can just sort

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of make the other dancers move out of their way

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>just the right way for them to slip through without

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>feeling any resistance. It's like crowdsurfing exactly. It's like crowdsurfing,

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's a subtle effect. You know. This attraction between

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the electrons is small, and so it took people a

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>long time to understand. There are a lot of crazy

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>ideas that people had to explain super connectivity, most of

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>which were wrong. And this one crazy idea which turned

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>out to be true. And so that's why they have

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>to be cold to so that there's sort of m

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>room for these electronicity to get together. That's right. Super

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>connectivity was discovered in materials like ten or twenty degrees kelvin,

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.479
<v Speaker 1>and as we said, that's necessary to have the regular

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>lattice and to have this thing happened. Um. And also,

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>this attraction between the electrons is very fragile, and so

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>if things are too hot, then that attraction is really

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>is hard to make. And so for a long time

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 1>people thought, well, superconductors are cool, they have cool applications.

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>But jeez, if you've got to be twenty degrees kelvin,

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>that's not very practical. You know, you're not gonna have

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the wires in your house being twenty degrees kelvin. That's

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>super cold. Okay, let's get into the different flavors of superconductors,

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>but first let's take another break. All right, So, Daniel,

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you were telling me that there are different flavors of superconductors,

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>like super duper conductors, and well, they're all super conductors,

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>but they're made in different ways, different kinds of materials.

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>So for like fifty years, there are only a few

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 1>superconductors that were known. But then in the eighties, probably

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>described by this magazine article you read, there was a breakthrough.

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>People found superconductors that could work at real tie high temperatures,

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, up to like maybe between thirty and a

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred degrees kelvin. That's still super cold. I mean, I

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 1>think parts of Canada might be a hundred degrees calenright now.

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>And these are like metals or I think I read

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>they're ceramics, right, They're they're not just all metals. There's

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>some of them are ceramics. Yeah, some of them are

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>ceramics exactly, which really surprised people. Um, but they can

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>do super connectivity at fairly high temperatures, you know, versus

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>thirty degrees and then fifty degrees in the sixty degrees,

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and these days they're up above a hundred degrees kelvin,

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 1>which is still pretty cold, but it's it's getting closer

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>to like the liquid nitrogen level, where you can get

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.239
<v Speaker 1>something cold pretty cheaply. If you eat something down like

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>ten degrees levin, you have to have super world class

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>refrigeration and liquid helium, which is all very hard. You

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>only need something pretty cold. You can use liquid nitrogen,

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 1>which is cheap and easily available and so maybe practical. Yeah,

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>now you can just go down to the store and

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>pop open a bottle of liquid nitrogen. That's right. And

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 1>this is a pretty exciting field because every few years,

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>like a new kind of materials discovered that can do

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>super conductivity at a higher temperature. It's like every five years,

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, hey, look, I zapped this with

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>this new kind of goo, and I smeared peanut butter

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>on it and dunked it into good nungrogen and fried

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>in the microwave, and look now it's a superconductor. I

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>think your colleagues are probably regretting having talked to you

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>at this point. Probably, I mean not literally, they're not

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>actually using peanut butter, but they are just exploring wacky

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>stuff and sometimes they're surprised, like there's an amazing kind

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>of superconductor that uses these graphene sheets, right, this really

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>weird arrangement of carbon. And if you take two of them,

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>two sheets, and you twist one at just the right angle,

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>then the sheets together can act like a superconductor. And

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you were saying that these high temperature superconductors, they're the

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>ones that we don't really understand. Yeah, because remember, to

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>have superconducting materials, you need these cooper pairs to move

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>through the materials, so you need their electrons to be

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>attracted to each other somehow. But that attraction is very,

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>very very low, and so if the material is hot,

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>then that attraction is basically nothing compared to the energy

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>of the electrons and the energy of the lattice. And

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>so it's hard to understand how that works. And there

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of smart people working right now on

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>theories of high temperature superconductors, and you know, they have

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>some tools that have good simulations that can describe this

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and describe that, but it's not as far advanced as

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the theories of low temperature superconductors. And that's important because

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>we'd like to predict, like, hey, will this material be

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>a superconductor or what materials should we make in order

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>to have superconductors that work at room temperature? That's the

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>final goal. And so nobody really understands how these works.

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of hard because you can't just sort

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>of sort of like poke it right, you can just

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of open it up and look look at what's

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>going on. You you have to kind of use theory

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>and simulations. Yeah, exactly. It's a complicated problem. Um, but

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>it's really interesting. You know. People love making new kinds

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of stuff and trying to get it to do weird

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>things and understanding these mysteries. Um, I think it's really fun.

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>These guys have a lot of fun building these simulations

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>and thinking about it. And you know, I asked them like,

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>do you think there will ever be room temperature superconductors?

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>And nobody wants to say yes, because that's predicting the future.

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>But there is a lot of confidence because every few

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>years we get a new kind of superconductor that's warmer

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>than any of the others. And so if that continues,

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, another few decades, we might get superconductors that

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>are at fairly warm temperatures. It's all about finding the

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>right recipe exactly. It's finding the right recipe, the right

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of ingredients, mix them in the right kind of ways,

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>app them with the right kind of laser, all this

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. Do a dance a certain way, exactly,

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you gotta do the dance. Okay. So that's that's super

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>conductors and how they work. Um, but this sort of

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 1>their biggest application is kind of not really in conducting electricity.

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>It's more in magnets, right, and making super magnets. That's right.

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Of course, there's a connection because how do you bank

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>an electromagnet? Right? How do you make a magnet that

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you can turn on and off? But you do that

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>by having something which conducts electricity. You make a loop

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>of current, because a loop of current will make a magnet.

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>And so if you have something which can do super

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>conducting electronics, then you can have current flowing through it

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>at a really high rate and it doesn't heat up

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>and and break down. Or anything, and so you can

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>get really strong magnets. Oh, lets you um make magnets

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 1>that you can turn on and off. It's like a yes,

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>electric magnets, Yeah, electromagnets. You can turn them on and off.

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>You can dial their strength up and down, which is

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 1>really important for a particle collider. And if you use

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 1>superconductors then you can there's no resistance and so you

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 1>can really get really strong magnets. Yeah exactly. And you

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>want really strong magnets that are pretty small. They don't

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>take you know, they aren't like the size of a

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>school bus or something. So you want them to be powerful.

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>You want them to be small, and that's what we

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 1>need at the particle collider. And also you want super

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>strong magnets for other things like who doesn't want to

0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>ride in a magnetically levitating train that would be also right.

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.760
<v Speaker 1>The others are the magleft ones in Japan, right, Yeah exactly.

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 1>And um, so the stronger the magnets, the easier that

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 1>technology is, the more practical that technology is. Right and so, um,

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 1>superconductors play a lot of role in making really strong magnets.

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.720
<v Speaker 1>But then also very directly, you know you want superconductivity,

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.399
<v Speaker 1>Well it would be great to have in your transmission lines.

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Like we were saying earlier, your electricity would be cheaper

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>if you could get it straight from the power station

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.720
<v Speaker 1>without losing any energy. Right, they lose a significant fraction

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>in the energy they generate just in sending it to us.

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. So if you can, Yeah, if you

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:39.720
<v Speaker 1>find a recipe for a room temperature superconductor, you would

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>revolutionize everything. Right, you would be a zillionaire and you

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<v Speaker 1>could just dance all night and not have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about anything ever again, seriously, that would be a zillion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar invention. Temperature superconductors, like you would you would haven't

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<v Speaker 1>elect a grid with no loss like your you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your phone wouldn't heat up and lose energy. Yeah. Plus

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a fascinating mystery of physics, like how

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<v Speaker 1>does that happen? How is it possible? Um? I love

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<v Speaker 1>when we can create stuff that we don't understand because

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<v Speaker 1>it gives us like a concrete hook into some mystery

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe, something that says, there's something here that

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<v Speaker 1>will teach you a lesson, there's some insight here waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for you to discover. And of course there could be

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<v Speaker 1>insights anywhere. You never know. But when you have something

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<v Speaker 1>physical that you don't understand, you know there's an insight there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like a concrete clue you can follow up, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, that's very exciting. Wow. Yeah, alright, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we can safely conclude that superconductors have

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<v Speaker 1>to do with conductors and force and stuff and dance

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<v Speaker 1>and dancing. So we have danced our way through this topic,

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<v Speaker 1>and we hope that you enjoyed it and that you

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<v Speaker 1>now understand a little bit more about superconductivity. So go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and find a pair to dance with. And

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<v Speaker 1>they don't necessarily have to be called Cooper, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>And they even can have the same charge. Right. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>times opposites attract, sometimes electrons attract. Oh my goodness, how

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<v Speaker 1>many times can we dance around this punt? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're breaking down. We'll break dancing pruct a

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<v Speaker 1>dance all right, guys, Thanks for joining us, See you

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