1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Good morning. It's Monday, the twenty ninth of January in London. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Daybreak Europe podcast. I'm Stephen Carroll. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Coming up today. Joe Biden vowed retaliation for the killing 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: of three American soldiers in Jordan, putting the US on 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: a possible collision course with Iran. The world's most indebted 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: property developer evergrand Is ordered into liquidation by a Hong 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Kong court, and Ursula vonder lyons EU stewardship comes into question. 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: We have a special report on the brewing leadership fight 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: at the heart of the European Union. Let's start with 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: a roundup of our top stories. The risk of a 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: direct confrontation between the United States and Iran is growing 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: after three American soldiers were killed by Iran backed militants 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: and Jordan. The serviceman died in a drone attack that 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: also wounded twenty five others near the Syrian border. In 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: a statement, President Joe Biden said the US would retaliate 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: our Middle East. Economics and Government editor Paul Wallace says 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: political pressure in the US to take action is already mounted. 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: If you look at some hawkish members of Congress, they 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: want something very firm. For example, Lindsay Graham, the Republican 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: He has said that the US has to attack Iran directly. 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: Now that may not happen. 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: Iran has plenty of assets and commanders in Iraq and Syria, 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: and the US may decide to go after them. It 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: may see that as a slightly less escalatory step than 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: attacking Iran itself. But certainly I think all eyes will 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: be on what the US does this week in reaction 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: to these attacks, and then after that what Iran says 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: and does in response. 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: To that has been Brooks Paul Wallace. US bases in 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: Iraq and Syria have come under fire multiple times Moran 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: supported groups since the Israel Hamas War up toed in October. 32 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: A source familiar with the US position has told Bloomberg 33 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: that these latest deaths of American soldiers will force a 34 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: stronger response than what the US has done so far. 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: Turning now to other news in the Middle East, the 36 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: New York Times is reporting the talks on an UC's 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: fire and the Israel Hamas War in closer to a deal. 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: This is NBC says the Biden administration may slow or 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: pause deliveries of some weapons to Israel to pressure the 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Bendamnettia, who to scale back military operations 41 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: in Gaza. CAI director William Burns is set to join 42 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: talks in the coming days, seeking a deal that US 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: and regional officials say would be part of a ceasefire 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: of at least two months. The Chinese property the giant Evergrand, 45 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: is heading for liquidation. The Hong Kong High Court has 46 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: ordered the trouble for and be wound up to deal 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: with its massive debts. Bloomberg's Loretta Chen says attempts to 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: restructure Evergrand's debt didn't work. 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 4: We're talking about a company that has over three hundred 50 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 4: billion dollars in debt and the bulk of that is 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 4: in mill in China on shore, whereas the offshore creditors 52 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 4: holds about twenty billions of dollars of debt and that 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: they were looking to restructure. But that restructure plan eventually 54 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: fall apart, and Evergrand right now has offshore assets such 55 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: as listed companies of the China Evergrond unit. 56 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: It has a evun the writ of Chen Bloomberg's loans 57 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: and bonds. Reporter there, Judge Linda Chan says the ruling 58 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: will result in new management at the home builder, alongside 59 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: addressing other issues. A further hearing this afternoon is expected 60 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: to determine if the court will regulate the liquidation process. 61 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: The UK government has asked city firms to submit proposals 62 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: for a potential retail offering of nat West shares. The 63 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: respective advisors must send their bids by late February, with 64 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: the Treasury hoping to issue an update alongside the budget 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: on the sixth of March. Economic Secretary to the Treasury 66 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: bim Afalami told Bloomberg last week of the government's hopes 67 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: for the sale. 68 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 5: We announced at the Autumn Statement that nat West share 69 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 5: sale to retail offer to the public that is going 70 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 5: to happen this year. The prospects for that are looking good. 71 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 5: The prospects more broadly for IPOs are looking good. And 72 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 5: so if you're somebody watching this who's thinking about listing, 73 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 5: go ahead, come and speak to the Treasury, come and 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 5: speak to us. 75 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: That's the City Minister bim Afalami speaking to Bloomberg. People 76 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: familiar with the matter say a disco entered retail offer 77 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: to the public is likely alongside an offer to institutional investors. 78 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: The plans are part of the government's wider effort to 79 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: attract more funds to UK shares. 80 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: And boost growth. 81 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: Almost one in five UK listed companies but at a 82 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: profit warning last year. That's more than during the financial crisis. 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: The data from ey Parthenon suggests businesses are in distress 84 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: after dealing with the highest interest rates in fifteen years. 85 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg James Wilcock has. 86 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 6: More higher borrowing costs, steeper prices and delayed decisions coming 87 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 6: home to roost. Those are the three main reasons making 88 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 6: British companies worry about their profits. Hiring data has also 89 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 6: fallen by the most in three years last month, which 90 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 6: some experts say points to firms holding back due to 91 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 6: economic uncertainty. It's all a sign that the Bank of 92 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 6: England is slamming on the economic breaks and that's having 93 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 6: a major effect, but not without an impact on growth. 94 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 6: In London James Wilcock, Bloomberg Radio. 95 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: And homes in London are at their most affordable level 96 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: in a decade. That's according to data from the property 97 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: portals Zuplow, which sees houses in the capital costing thirteen 98 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: times the annual earnings of an average worker in the UK. 99 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: That's down from over fifteen times in twenty sixteen. Zuoper 100 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: is also pointing to an increase in sales agreed at 101 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: the start of this year. The CEO of Property Mark, 102 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: Nathan Emerson says it's not just London seeing a booster demand. 103 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 7: You're sure and Humber, for example, you're looking at a 104 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 7: sort of nineteen percent increases in activity there and you're 105 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 7: also looking at the West Midlands you know that's currently 106 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 7: sitting at around about seventeen percent increase, so very positive 107 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 7: signs from that. 108 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: Emerson notes that London is still far more expensive than 109 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: any other part of the UK. He predicts that buying 110 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: activity UK wide will start to follow London upward as 111 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: interest rates fall well. Coming up in a moment, we 112 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: will get more on the latest events in the Middle 113 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: East and the pressure on the US president to respond 114 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: to the weekend's attacks. Will also be looking at the 115 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: leadership battle ahead in the European Union as we look 116 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: towards the European elections in June of this year. But 117 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: another story that caught my eye this morning from Germany 118 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: and forty five companies joining a trial of the four 119 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: day week, so the six month program starting on the 120 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: first of February will give hundreds of employers one hundred 121 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: employees rather an extra day off every week, well keeping 122 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: them on full pay. It's aiming to find out if 123 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: unions are right, that they could leave staff healthier and happier, 124 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: but also more productive. Now it's happening at a time 125 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: in Germany too, where there is a continued lack of 126 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: skilled workers that's putting pressure on companies who are trying 127 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: to hire. So that shortage, coupled with high implation, has 128 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: emboldened employees across industries to seek wage increases. In fact, 129 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: half of German companies are at least partly unable to 130 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: fill the vacancies that they're trying to Germany is also 131 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: facing a demographic issue. More than seven million people are 132 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: set to leave the German workforce by thirty five, so 133 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: all of that combining to this expansion of a trial 134 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: of the four day week to these forty five companies. 135 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: Germany is the country that has one of the highest 136 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: portions of part time workers in the EU. The hope 137 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: is that perhaps the four day week might be able 138 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: to attract more people into the labor force and perhaps 139 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: solve some of those issues. Of tightness in the labor 140 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: market as well, so that trial the six month pilot 141 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: beginning on the first of February. Well, let's go to 142 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: our top story now and the events in the Middle 143 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: East and the pressure on Joe Biden to respond to 144 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: the attack which left three American soldiers dead in Jordan 145 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: at the weekend, an attack being blamed on around backed militants. 146 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: Our Middle East Economics and Government editor Paul Wallace has 147 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: more for us this morning. Paul, First of all, what 148 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: exactly do we know about the details of this attack? 149 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: I seen? So these attacks happened over the weekends sort 150 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: of it we think late Saturday it was a big, 151 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: aggressive drone attack on a US base in the northeast 152 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: of Jordan called Tower twenty two. It's slightly smaller than 153 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: some of some of the US's main bases in the region. 154 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: This is more like a garrison, but nonetheless, these drones 155 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: seem to have hit the living quarters. They killed three 156 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: US soldiers and injured dozens more, at least thirty four 157 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: according to the Pentagon Is. The basis is right on 158 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: the border with Syria and Iraq, and so it's close 159 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: to where a lot of Iranian backed proxy groups operate 160 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: in those two countries, Iraq and Syria. Biden has vowed 161 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 3: a response, and I think that's something that Blober markets 162 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: will be watching very closely in the next week or so. 163 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: These are the first deaths from an attack, a US 164 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: death in the region from an attack since the Israel 165 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 3: Hamas War started and roiled the region. So it is 166 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: a pretty major development. 167 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: What could the response from the US look like? As 168 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: you say, this is a significant escale for the US 169 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: with these first first American. 170 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: Death it is. And if you look at some of 171 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: the let's say the Hawks in Washington, I'll take Lindsay 172 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: Graham or Republican Senator as an example. He has said 173 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: that Biden must attack targets inside Iran. So he's saying 174 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: not just Iranian proxies in Iraq or Syria or places 175 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: like that, but actually inside Iran. 176 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 8: That would be a serious, serious development that I think 177 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 8: would could potentially be very very bullished for energy markets, 178 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 8: especially oil. 179 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: Biden has other oxygens aside from that. He may opt 180 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: to hit Iranian targets, if you know, that's the roots 181 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: he goes, but outside the country, so Iraq and Syria 182 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: would be the obvious examples. I suppose it depends partly 183 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 3: on which group the Americans decide carried out these attacks. 184 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: There was a claim yesterday from an Iraqi based group 185 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: that's backed by Iran. It's said that it attacked US 186 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: Bass over the weekend. It didn't specifically say that it 187 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: attacked this one in Jordan's so we still don't know, 188 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: but no doubt the Americans they already know or they're 189 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: working that out now, and then that may determine where 190 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 3: they strike and how hard. 191 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: What would this escalation of around US tensions mean for 192 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: efforts to broke or cease far in the Israel Hamas war. 193 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: At the moment, the US and the UK and Salites 194 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: are trying to separate what's going on in Gaza with 195 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: these other conflicts around the Middle East, whether SOCU Diip 196 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: attacks in the Red Sea or these strikes on a 197 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: US basis in a Rack and Syrian and now Jordan. 198 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: Obviously they're all linked and they're very you know, what's 199 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: going on outside Gaza is very much a consequence of 200 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: that war and the atensions being inflamed by it in 201 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: the region. However, I think the US very much wants 202 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: to deal with these separate lease So there's no suggestion 203 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 3: in so far that Israel Kamas hostage talks are going 204 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: to be derailed by what's going on. But it is possible, 205 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 3: of course, because at the center of all this is Iran, 206 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: and if Iran wanted to gop those hostage talks, it 207 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 3: could presumably do that Viajamas. There's no suggestion again that 208 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: it will do that, but it has the ability to. 209 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Paul wallas Im ad Least Economics and Government editor, 210 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Next to a story from the 211 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: top levels of the European Union in the future of 212 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: Commission President Arsla Vanderline. She's expected to seek a second 213 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: term ahead of elections in June, but the achievements of 214 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: her first term haven't come without controversy. Bloomberg' Jorge Valleiro 215 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: has been writing about this and he joins us from 216 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: Brussels this morning. Good morning to you, hore Arth Levanderline. 217 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: First of all, a good Commission President. 218 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 9: I think we can stay in short jazz with the nuances, 219 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 9: of course, and this is the same conclusion that you 220 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 9: reach when you talk to analyst, the diplomats and people 221 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 9: in the European Parliament of course she had a very 222 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 9: difficult manday because of the COVID crisis, war in Ukraine, 223 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 9: energy crisis. But she's been the strong question of the 224 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 9: Commission that broke the block forward. 225 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 10: Of course, it's been also controversial, as. 226 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 9: You said, because her style, her management style and the 227 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 9: Commission didn't make everybody is happy because she centralized a 228 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 9: lot of power or you've. 229 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: Been looking at in the story though, some of the 230 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: dilemmas that the facing the EU that s Levonderline could 231 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: be looking at in a possible second mandate. What are 232 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: the big issues that the next Commission president needs to 233 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: be worried about. 234 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 9: We can summarize it in two big squeeze we'll call 235 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 9: it like that. One is this fight between the two 236 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 9: big titans, the US and China, and how the EU 237 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 9: is trying to forge its own stand and with this 238 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 9: the riskiness strategy. And the other one is a difficult 239 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 9: compromise between the green deal that the EU is championing 240 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 9: with the competitiveness of its economy and the fact that 241 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 9: the EU lacks many of the critical minerals and energy 242 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 9: sources for this to remain a competitive economy, and how 243 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 9: green deal push and how the fact that the EU 244 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 9: might need to centralize more competencies in the future if 245 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 9: he wants to remain strong, is at the same time 246 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 9: fueling the rise of far right in many corners of 247 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 9: the EU. 248 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: What could a second arsen Evonderline Commission look like given 249 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: the experience that we've had of the past five years, Yeah. 250 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 10: I mean it's for sure. 251 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 9: I mean the past five years, it's been one of 252 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 9: the most difficult mandates and periods in the history. And 253 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 9: we've seen a lot, as you know well over the 254 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 9: past decades with the Uroson crisis, migration and break sists 255 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 9: and so forth. 256 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 10: But the past five years have been especially difficult. 257 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 9: But the following one, the follow Monday, can be even 258 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 9: worse because, on top of the war against Ukraine, the 259 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 9: Kaza crisis, a possible return of Trump and more assertive China, 260 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 9: the Commission will face a very difficult situation with greatly 261 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 9: practically no budget difficulties to complete the implementation of the 262 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 9: Recovery Fund, the COVID Recovery Fund, with the pushback against 263 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 9: the Green Day legislation, and also with the Parliament that 264 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 9: very likely will see more fragmentation, the rise of far 265 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 9: right among its it's members, of the Parliament. 266 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 10: So yes, it's gonna be complicated. 267 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: Indeed, and of course the composition of the European Parliament 268 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: after Jean's election is going to be very important in 269 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: that development too. 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