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Speaker 2: Good Morning.

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Speaker 3: I will tee you guys up on a team, okay,

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Speaker 3: maybe one of these teams that's been heavily involved in

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Speaker 3: free agency, and you are tasked with writing one word

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Speaker 3: on the whiteboard, and no, no hyphenated words, not two words,

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Speaker 3: not a phrase, one word that you think applies to

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Speaker 3: the T, the TP in this case being the New

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Speaker 3: York Giants active on Monday. Let's feast your eyes on

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Speaker 3: the New York Giants under John Harbaugh. All right, so

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Speaker 3: Isaiah likely you know, has a long relationship with him.

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Speaker 3: Tremaine Edmonds from the Bears was really good. It was

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Speaker 3: banged up a little last year, but like your classic

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Speaker 3: middle linebackers, makes a ton of plays. And then a

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Speaker 3: couple other guys, including going a Chefsky Jamina Luminor like

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Speaker 3: they got some guys. John Harvard's not messing round and

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Speaker 3: neither are we. One word to describe how you feel

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Speaker 3: about the Giants right now. I love, love, love.

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Speaker 2: What I'm seeing about the Giants right now. Mine is resurgence.

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Speaker 2: The resurgence of the New York Giants. I'll tell you guys,

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Speaker 2: a little bit story. You saw the signing Tremaine Edmonds,

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Speaker 2: three year, thirty six million dollars. I was training with

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Speaker 2: Tremaine Edmonds in ax Selston, Pensacola, Florida, and I swear

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Speaker 2: to you, guys, I was twenty one. Tremaine Edmonds was

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Speaker 2: like sixteen years old. He's in his eighth year and

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Speaker 2: he's like twenty four. This is like still a young player,

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Speaker 2: and he's great. He's got great size, a ton of tackles,

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Speaker 2: interceptions last year. He is a playmaker and he's ready

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Speaker 2: to lead this defense. I think he's better than Bobby

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Speaker 2: Ocaerke and he they replace him. I think this is great.

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Speaker 2: Isaiah likely as well. I don't know how the Ravens

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Speaker 2: let this guy out of their building. Hayma, Mark Andrews

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Speaker 2: was crushing it. He'll have the opportunity to be a

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Speaker 2: true tight end number one with a nice surging young

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Speaker 2: player in THEO. Johnson, I love, love, love what the

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Speaker 2: Giants are doing right now, and John Harbaugh, let's get

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Speaker 4: I would say I love don't I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 4: I love it. I like it, but I am encouraged.

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Speaker 4: I'm encouraged by the fact that you see that Isaiah

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Speaker 4: likely getting added in really helps Jackson Dart really his development.

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Speaker 4: You're adding another playmaker into the mix for a young quarterback.

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Speaker 4: You cannot have enough of those. And then resigning a

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Speaker 4: lumin or you cannot help your quarterback if he's getting

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Speaker 4: sacked every place. So you know, going in there and

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Speaker 4: investing in that old line is the most important part

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Speaker 4: when you have a young quarterback. And then one of

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Speaker 4: my favorite linebackers in the league right now has been

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Speaker 4: tremain Edwards Edmunds because of what he has done in

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Speaker 4: the league and every time that we've played him when

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Speaker 4: I was in Cleveland, he's had a hell of a

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Speaker 4: game almost to pick six the last time he played

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Speaker 4: him a couple years ago, and I just think he's

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Speaker 4: a true difference maker on that defense. The issue is,

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Speaker 4: though they can't stop now. They have a couple more

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Speaker 4: need it soon. So I'm encouraged by what they have

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Speaker 4: going on, but they can't stop now.

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Speaker 3: There is a dastardly internet conspiracy theory that John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 3: as Ravens head coach somehow masterminded the big contract extension

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Speaker 3: for Mark Andrews, so then he could get Isaiah Likely

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Speaker 3: out of Baltimore. I don't know if it really stands

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Speaker 3: up to a timeline or a credibility issue, but it

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Speaker 3: is kind of funny to think about. And I'll say,

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Speaker 3: here's my word. We don't say this is a ton

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Speaker 3: about the New York Giants for the last decade. But

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Speaker 3: I think when I see these moves and I see

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Speaker 3: that coach, I think they matter. They also brought in

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Speaker 3: a lot of raw matter in the scientific sense. But

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Speaker 3: when did we talk about the New York Giants. Is like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, this could be a team that really

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Speaker 3: moves the needle very rarely, very rarely over the last decade.

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Speaker 3: Last year they were a lot of fun at the

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Speaker 3: beginning of the season with Jackson Dart and Scotty Win

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Speaker 3: all that, But then that changed everything. And then John

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Speaker 3: Harbud did with John Harper was done for years. He

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Speaker 3: It feels like the New York Giants, albeit in March,

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Speaker 3: feels like they matter. How about the defending NFC North champions.

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Speaker 3: How about the Chicago Bears? How about the Chicago Bears?

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Speaker 3: She had some things yesterday. Do we have what the

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Speaker 3: Three year, forty million dollars deal. Devin Bush replaces Edmunds

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Speaker 3: Neville Gallimore. I saw someone online saying we're signed Harry

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Speaker 3: Potter characters very different from the long Bottom family. Enough

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Speaker 3: Johnson agrees. So, guys, here we go. One word to

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Speaker 3: describe how you feel about the Bears, the pride and

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Speaker 3: the Bears right now? Scary?

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Speaker 2: Scary, but in a great way. Look, I talked about

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Speaker 2: were going to be a dark horse. They absolutely were

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Speaker 2: go to the playoffs. Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams. I said

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Speaker 2: it was going to be a slow start, and it

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Speaker 2: You're able to replace the immediate needs and Jawan Brisker

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Speaker 2: leaving you go and you get Kobe Bryant, Devin Bush

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Speaker 3: This team is poised to take over.

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Speaker 4: See my thoughts of the Chicago Bears are that they

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Speaker 4: are an ascending team. I love what I'm seeing from

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Speaker 4: the Bears right now in free agency. They are cool

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Speaker 4: going in to the defensive side of the ball, getting

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Speaker 4: it works for thee And then they went and they

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Speaker 4: bringing in Garrett Bradberry is is this another step in that.

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Speaker 4: But I definitely believe the Bears are as sending and

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Speaker 4: the rest of the NNC North should is definitely put

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Speaker 4: on notice from here on out.

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Speaker 3: You're right about the defense Shelby numerically or statistically, rather,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't fantastic. They just had so many turnovers and takeaways.

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Speaker 3: They would get interceptions, they would get fumbles, and that's

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Speaker 3: For the Chicago Bears, it's just the word ast coach.

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Speaker 3: Anything Ben Johnson wants to do, I'm down with. Anything

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Speaker 3: just it all defers to him, and of course credit

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Speaker 3: a different French I think it's a different city. So

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Speaker 3: if Ben Johnson came out yesterday and the Bears, if

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Speaker 3: they signed Mike Evans, if they spent two hundred million

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Speaker 3: and saluting Ben Johnson, and he has my proxy, he

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Speaker 3: has my support. Anything he wants to do, I'm in.

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Speaker 3: And if he wants to do some really cool, solid

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Speaker 3: things to make the team better, like he Inpultad yesterday, fine,

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Speaker 3: But he could have done something completely nonsensical and asin.

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Speaker 3: I'm guess what I'd be sitting here this morning saying

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Speaker 3: I don't care. Ben Jonson likes it, and so do I.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, let's talk about what's not on another

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Speaker 3: one because we got a few more of these are

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Speaker 3: always fun. What is the word to describe how you feel?

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Speaker 3: Right now? Kansas City Chiefs Cabinda because we got the

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Speaker 3: running back, you got the pop culture sensation and podcaster

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Speaker 3: who is one of the best tight ends ever played.

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Speaker 3: Taekwan Thornton is stand Althohi Gilman, Curious Tonga, three year,

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Speaker 3: twenty one million. That's the new Chiefs. There's going to

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Speaker 3: be others to come in the draft and otherwise, but

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Speaker 3: right now, never mind the draft. It's March tenth. How

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Speaker 2: It's unfortunate, But look, this is what I got for you.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know if it's enough. Look, we know

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes. He's gonna do what he does.

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Speaker 2: He's coming off a devastating leg injury. We got to

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Speaker 2: see what he's going to look like. Right but when

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Speaker 2: you look at the wide receiver situation, you look at

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Speaker 2: Rashie Rice and the off field issues, they don't even

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Speaker 2: gonna even have him this year. I like the Taekwan

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Speaker 2: Thornton signing Travis Kelce. He's aging, he doesn't have it

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Speaker 2: how he used to. He's not a man killer anymore.

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Speaker 2: He's kind of solely a zone killer right now. Love

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Speaker 2: the Kenneth Walker trade, I absolutely love it. I think

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Speaker 2: they need a lean on the run game right now,

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Speaker 2: but I just don't think they have enough. I don't

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Speaker 2: feel the same Jews. It's feeling the knee like the

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Speaker 2: dynasty is over and they can't just continue to lean

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Speaker 2: on the Patrick Mahomes magic a year after year after year.

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Speaker 4: So I'm I'm nervous about this Chiefs team. Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 4: has been sacked seventy times combined over the last two years.

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Speaker 4: That right there is not a recipe for success. And

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Speaker 4: that's also exactly the reason why Patrick Mahomes is out

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Speaker 4: right now with an ACL injury. The Chiefs have spent

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Speaker 4: a considerable amount of draft capital on O lineman in

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Speaker 4: the last three years, and they really haven't worked out

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Speaker 4: for them yet. And I don't know if necessary, if

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Speaker 4: it's time to try to reach out the free agency

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Speaker 4: to try to fix those holes. But my thought process

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Speaker 4: behind it is they got to do something because you

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Speaker 4: can't have your franchise slash all world quarterback getting hit

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Speaker 4: thirty five times, not just getting hit, getting sacked thirty

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Speaker 4: five times a year, and expect to be successful come

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Speaker 4: playoff time. It just doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go this way, my word undertaker, and

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Speaker 3: not that the Chiefs are dead. I'll try to do

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Speaker 3: don't know if they're Super Bowl team. We'll see what

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Speaker 3: AFC West. Not the Chargers, No, not the Broncos. How

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Speaker 3: All kinds of different names up there. Some of them

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Speaker 3: you know. Tyler Linderbaum absolutely incredible three year eighty one million,

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Speaker 3: March tenth. Look, this is what I got for the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: I still see holes on this team. I like the moves.

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Speaker 3: You've got Ashton JENTI are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Everything's gonna be all good.

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Speaker 3: He's a great guy. Think he's a great fit for

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Speaker 2: But I just do not believe this team is ready

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Speaker 3: I like the moves, love.

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Speaker 4: I'm very interested right now and the moves that the

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Speaker 4: It's very intriguing watching what the Raiders are doing right now.

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Speaker 4: You know, right they have They're changing the tide right

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Speaker 3: But it's very intriguing right.

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Speaker 4: Now their thought process and going all in and bringing

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Speaker 3: Well, Las Vegas out in the deserts. I have another

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Speaker 3: It's the headliner and the big fonts it's Mendoza I

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Speaker 3: don't know if he can play or not. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if he rocks. I don't know if it's worth

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Speaker 3: gotta bring water, they're gonna patch you down, all that

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Speaker 3: but it's good. I don't know. We'll find out. Good morning,

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Speaker 3: all right, buckle up here we go, Ian Rappaport, Tom Pellisero,

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Speaker 3: come on in here. An hour ago we were talking

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Speaker 3: about what the Ravens' potential future could be with them.

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Speaker 3: Just hypothetically. Ian, two minutes ago you tweeted it. You

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Speaker 5: It is not hypothetical, it is real. The Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 3: With the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 5: Perhaps you've heard the Ravens had an agreement with Max

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Speaker 3: That trade is now off.

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Speaker 5: The Baltimore Ravens works incredibly quickly to get in the mix.

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Speaker 5: Tom Portray Hendrickson, Crosby out Hendrickson in. They solidify the

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Speaker 6: So let's make the natural connections here of how all

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Speaker 6: we'll do very little to quiet some of the questions

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Speaker 6: Last year, Hendrickson dealt with an injury. He is also

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Speaker 6: the Ravens after four pm Eastern time today, Babari another surprise,

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Speaker 6: Hendrickson gets paid.

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Speaker 3: The top free agent.

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Speaker 6: Task structure is now off the market for the Raiders.

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Speaker 6: They now have Max Crosby's contract back on the books.

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Speaker 6: They may have to adjust some things, delay some things,

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Speaker 3: Because the new league year begins.

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Speaker 6: At four pm Eastern time today, they need to have

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Speaker 3: We have a solar eclipse. First of all, thrill for

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Speaker 3: at least twice a year. Let's get into the Stoke beers.

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Speaker 3: We talked about it last hour. I want to hear

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Speaker 3: Tom and I want to hear Ian. Just riddle me this.

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Speaker 3: The Baltimore Ravens are going to bring in Max Crosby.

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Speaker 3: They're thrilled. We do the photoshops. They got their pass

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Speaker 3: Those are loaded words. I want to response from the Ravens.

428
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Speaker 3: In the meantime, both of you guys followed this stuff.

429
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Speaker 3: What's your reaction, Kyle. The fans are important. We love

430
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Speaker 3: the fans. I would tell you the same things.

431
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Speaker 6: And as you see both me and Ian both looking

432
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Speaker 6: over at our iPads as texts are flooding in. I

433
00:21:34,188 --> 00:21:37,588
Speaker 6: am getting texts from vms right now with many, many

434
00:21:37,708 --> 00:21:41,828
Speaker 6: questions about the circumstances of what took place over the

435
00:21:41,868 --> 00:21:46,748
Speaker 6: last several days since the Ravens acquired a player temporarily

436
00:21:47,268 --> 00:21:51,668
Speaker 6: unofficially on Friday night who the entire league knew was

437
00:21:51,708 --> 00:21:55,868
Speaker 6: coming off of a significant meniscus repair surgery and was

438
00:21:55,908 --> 00:21:59,028
Speaker 6: not going to be fully healthy until roughly June.

439
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Speaker 3: It's a four to six month recovery.

440
00:22:01,348 --> 00:22:04,428
Speaker 6: His agents were transparent with teams that he was not

441
00:22:04,508 --> 00:22:06,468
Speaker 6: going to be cleared until right around the start of

442
00:22:06,548 --> 00:22:10,068
Speaker 6: training camp, with full expectation that Max Crosby would be

443
00:22:10,148 --> 00:22:11,988
Speaker 6: on track to play in twenty twenty six.

444
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Speaker 3: One of his AGENTCJ. Leboy, took to social.

445
00:22:14,188 --> 00:22:16,588
Speaker 6: Media last night and say if anything, doctor Neil la

446
00:22:16,708 --> 00:22:19,908
Speaker 6: Trac performed the surgery, said that Crosby is ahead of schedule.

447
00:22:20,428 --> 00:22:21,948
Speaker 3: What happens in these.

448
00:22:21,828 --> 00:22:25,068
Speaker 6: Trades is the teams, because no trades can be official

449
00:22:25,068 --> 00:22:28,308
Speaker 6: till at the four pm Eastern time today, enter into

450
00:22:28,428 --> 00:22:31,868
Speaker 6: a pre trade agreement in which the new team has

451
00:22:31,908 --> 00:22:34,228
Speaker 6: the ability to put the player that they are set

452
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Speaker 6: to acquire through a physical exam. They flew in Max Crosby.

453
00:22:38,548 --> 00:22:40,748
Speaker 6: He was in Baltimore, he was in the building, he

454
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Speaker 6: was meeting with coaches. This was the start of the

455
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Speaker 6: Max Crosby era in Baltimore yesterday. But part of that

456
00:22:46,788 --> 00:22:50,428
Speaker 6: was their doctors and the Ravens also consultant other doctors

457
00:22:50,468 --> 00:22:54,828
Speaker 6: about his knee, taking an examination and figuring out how

458
00:22:54,868 --> 00:22:58,308
Speaker 6: the knee was healing and what their long term prognosis was.

459
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Speaker 6: There are thirty two teams, thirty two doctors, thirty two

460
00:23:01,748 --> 00:23:06,028
Speaker 6: degrees of risk, tolerance. What we know h is for

461
00:23:06,108 --> 00:23:09,828
Speaker 6: one reason or another, and the Ravens told the Raiders

462
00:23:10,188 --> 00:23:13,348
Speaker 6: it was because of medical they decided not to move

463
00:23:13,388 --> 00:23:16,228
Speaker 6: forward with the trade for Max Crosby.

464
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Speaker 3: The fallout.

465
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Speaker 6: Again, regardless of what you believe happened, and there are

466
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Speaker 6: many questions within the league and outside the league about

467
00:23:23,308 --> 00:23:27,628
Speaker 6: exactly what happened, the result is undisputed, and it is this.

468
00:23:28,308 --> 00:23:32,308
Speaker 6: The Ravens have landed a Pro Bowl caliber pass rusher.

469
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Speaker 3: It is Trey Hendrickson, and.

470
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Speaker 6: They have both their first round picks in twenty twenty

471
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Speaker 6: six and twenty twenty seven still at their disposal to

472
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Speaker 6: fill other holes on their rostery.

473
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean all that is true, and my text

474
00:23:47,868 --> 00:23:50,428
Speaker 5: are flooding in. Like you said, it seems like the

475
00:23:50,548 --> 00:23:54,508
Speaker 5: entire league is reacting right now to the circumstances, to

476
00:23:54,628 --> 00:23:58,468
Speaker 5: the Ravens pivoting extremely quickly. My understanding is late late

477
00:23:58,588 --> 00:24:02,028
Speaker 5: last night, when they learned, when it became clear that

478
00:24:02,108 --> 00:24:04,908
Speaker 5: the Max Crosby trade was not happening, very quickly pivoted

479
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Speaker 5: to Trey Hendrickson. This is sort of an argument for

480
00:24:08,388 --> 00:24:11,588
Speaker 5: free agents if you believe your value, and Hendrickson for

481
00:24:11,668 --> 00:24:14,508
Speaker 5: sure believed his value. Wanted close to thirty million dollars,

482
00:24:14,828 --> 00:24:17,188
Speaker 5: ends up getting twenty eight point five million dollars on

483
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Speaker 5: a four year deal. He believed in his value and

484
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Speaker 5: he waited, and there were several teams interested. In the

485
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Speaker 5: Indianapolis Cold who have lu Anarumo, his old defensive coordinator.

486
00:24:25,468 --> 00:24:28,148
Speaker 5: They were interested, the Bucks, where he has an offseason home,

487
00:24:28,428 --> 00:24:31,028
Speaker 5: they were interested. The Bills had some interest as well,

488
00:24:31,068 --> 00:24:34,628
Speaker 5: the Commanders. They ended up signing Kylevon Chase onto a

489
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Speaker 5: one year, twelve million dollar deal.

490
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Speaker 3: Also that I just tweeted.

491
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Speaker 5: And the Ravens kind of hung around and hung around,

492
00:24:40,748 --> 00:24:43,588
Speaker 5: and then the Crosby deal fell apart due to his

493
00:24:43,668 --> 00:24:48,228
Speaker 5: medical and very quickly moved on Trey Hendrickson. So really,

494
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Speaker 5: here's the landscape of what we have. We have the

495
00:24:51,028 --> 00:24:54,188
Speaker 5: Ravens with Hendrickson on a four year, one hundred and

496
00:24:54,188 --> 00:24:56,388
Speaker 5: twelve million dollar deal. You have the Cowboys, who are

497
00:24:56,388 --> 00:24:59,108
Speaker 5: the other team having traded for Rashaan Gary said with

498
00:24:59,148 --> 00:25:01,788
Speaker 5: the players they have and not expected to pursue Crosby.

499
00:25:02,188 --> 00:25:04,268
Speaker 5: And then you have the Las Vegas Raiders, who have

500
00:25:04,388 --> 00:25:06,708
Speaker 5: spent two hundred and eighty one million dollars plus in

501
00:25:06,748 --> 00:25:09,348
Speaker 5: free agency, loading up on the roster to make it

502
00:25:09,388 --> 00:25:12,948
Speaker 5: a lot better, and it certainly feels like the Raiders

503
00:25:12,948 --> 00:25:16,348
Speaker 5: have just now acquired Max Crosby for themselves.

504
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Speaker 3: That is where it all stands. Well, where I stand

505
00:25:19,788 --> 00:25:23,388
Speaker 3: is I suspect that if Trey Henderson was not available,

506
00:25:23,628 --> 00:25:25,868
Speaker 3: that Max Crosby is a Raven right now. That's just

507
00:25:25,948 --> 00:25:28,668
Speaker 3: my suspicion, and I haven't heard anything otherwise from anybody

508
00:25:28,708 --> 00:25:30,988
Speaker 3: else with the Ravens. Also, here's where we're going to

509
00:25:31,028 --> 00:25:33,228
Speaker 3: head with this thing. Let's say that Max Crosby does

510
00:25:33,348 --> 00:25:36,548
Speaker 3: end up on another team. Let's say something happens that

511
00:25:36,588 --> 00:25:38,748
Speaker 3: team puts them through the physical that seems like, yeah,

512
00:25:38,748 --> 00:25:41,028
Speaker 3: it's fine, It's exactly what we suspected. He's got some

513
00:25:41,108 --> 00:25:43,428
Speaker 3: rehab left to do, but we're thrilled about it. Then

514
00:25:43,468 --> 00:25:45,988
Speaker 3: he's out there in workouts and he's crushing at week

515
00:25:46,028 --> 00:25:49,188
Speaker 3: one for the new team. Doesn't this medical report age

516
00:25:49,308 --> 00:25:52,108
Speaker 3: bizarrely at best hold on? It does? To me? Ian,

517
00:25:52,148 --> 00:25:55,988
Speaker 3: go ahead, here's what I would say, this is a risk.

518
00:25:56,068 --> 00:25:56,148
Speaker 4: Right.

519
00:25:56,228 --> 00:25:58,388
Speaker 5: So I had this conversation with the general manager last

520
00:25:58,468 --> 00:26:01,188
Speaker 5: night to try to understand like what does this mean?

521
00:26:01,428 --> 00:26:01,588
Speaker 3: Right?

522
00:26:01,708 --> 00:26:05,148
Speaker 5: Okay, So basically, what the Ravens with theoretically do is

523
00:26:05,148 --> 00:26:07,468
Speaker 5: they would take a bet, not a real bet, betting

524
00:26:07,548 --> 00:26:09,868
Speaker 5: is bad, but take a bet on Max Crosby. You

525
00:26:09,868 --> 00:26:12,628
Speaker 5: would say, we believe his knee is good, and I would.

526
00:26:12,388 --> 00:26:14,748
Speaker 3: Bet ten dollars. Would you bet one hundred dollars? Okay,

527
00:26:14,788 --> 00:26:17,268
Speaker 3: I would? What about a thousand? Sure? I would. Then

528
00:26:17,268 --> 00:26:20,948
Speaker 3: it's like what about your house? Would you bet your house? Like?

529
00:26:21,108 --> 00:26:23,068
Speaker 5: Would you bet all the money you have? That's really

530
00:26:23,108 --> 00:26:24,868
Speaker 5: what it is for the Baltimore Ravens. So we can

531
00:26:24,908 --> 00:26:27,548
Speaker 5: all talk about, well, they should have been comfortable to projection,

532
00:26:27,748 --> 00:26:31,148
Speaker 5: and you know theoretically they knew that it had some

533
00:26:31,228 --> 00:26:32,868
Speaker 5: ways to go, even though he's doing well.

534
00:26:33,188 --> 00:26:33,788
Speaker 3: Yes, that is.

535
00:26:33,788 --> 00:26:36,948
Speaker 5: All true, But the Ravens needed to bet the house

536
00:26:37,148 --> 00:26:40,548
Speaker 5: on Max Crosby, and they just after the medical exams,

537
00:26:40,588 --> 00:26:42,588
Speaker 5: after getting in there, after doing all the work that

538
00:26:42,628 --> 00:26:45,468
Speaker 5: they had to have preliminary work yesterday afternoon was the

539
00:26:45,508 --> 00:26:48,748
Speaker 5: real work. They did not believe the risk was worth it,

540
00:26:48,788 --> 00:26:52,308
Speaker 5: so they deal was off. They pivoted to Hendrickson without

541
00:26:52,348 --> 00:26:54,228
Speaker 5: knowing whether or not they were going to get him,

542
00:26:54,348 --> 00:26:56,788
Speaker 5: and this morning, as we just reported, they got him.

543
00:26:57,468 --> 00:27:00,428
Speaker 6: Let me give you a little bit of amateur doctrine

544
00:27:00,468 --> 00:27:03,468
Speaker 6: here because those of us who cover these things gain

545
00:27:03,508 --> 00:27:06,668
Speaker 6: a fair amount of infat about different types of surgeries,

546
00:27:06,748 --> 00:27:10,668
Speaker 6: the risk factors involved in prognosis. So there's really two

547
00:27:10,748 --> 00:27:12,868
Speaker 6: types of meniscus surgeries, and a lot of times you

548
00:27:12,948 --> 00:27:15,908
Speaker 6: don't know the doctors do not know for sure which

549
00:27:15,988 --> 00:27:19,148
Speaker 6: version they need to do until they actually perform the surgery.

550
00:27:19,188 --> 00:27:21,988
Speaker 6: There is a meniscus trim, which is what it sounds like,

551
00:27:22,028 --> 00:27:25,868
Speaker 6: where they cut out the damaged meniscal cartilage from the knee.

552
00:27:25,988 --> 00:27:28,068
Speaker 6: That has a faster recovery time. You can be back

553
00:27:28,108 --> 00:27:31,428
Speaker 6: on the field in several weeks, but it also means

554
00:27:31,788 --> 00:27:34,508
Speaker 6: you have less cartilage left in your knee, which in

555
00:27:34,548 --> 00:27:38,308
Speaker 6: turn means that there is no way to regenerate muiscal cartilage.

556
00:27:38,308 --> 00:27:40,308
Speaker 6: So as time goes on, when you hear about a

557
00:27:40,348 --> 00:27:42,588
Speaker 6: guy eventually having a bon on bone situation, if you

558
00:27:42,668 --> 00:27:45,588
Speaker 6: keep doing meniscus trims, eventually you're going to have.

559
00:27:45,548 --> 00:27:47,588
Speaker 3: A knee that's not going to be as healthy.

560
00:27:47,788 --> 00:27:52,028
Speaker 6: The meniscus repair is the way to preserve the cartilage.

561
00:27:52,108 --> 00:27:55,588
Speaker 6: It can actually extend a player's career. It's better for

562
00:27:55,668 --> 00:27:58,028
Speaker 6: long term health, which is why usually if you've got

563
00:27:58,148 --> 00:28:01,948
Speaker 6: young players, they opt for meniscus repair. Surgeries because you

564
00:28:01,948 --> 00:28:04,828
Speaker 6: don't want at age twenty three to be cutting out cartilage.

565
00:28:04,868 --> 00:28:08,628
Speaker 6: Max Crosby's twenty nine, he decided to undergo or the

566
00:28:08,708 --> 00:28:12,308
Speaker 6: doctors decided to do a meniscus repair surgery, which has

567
00:28:12,348 --> 00:28:14,788
Speaker 6: a longer timeline it is four to six months, but

568
00:28:14,908 --> 00:28:18,228
Speaker 6: is preserving the cartilage in the knee. All of which

569
00:28:18,268 --> 00:28:20,908
Speaker 6: is to say, the real question here is not whether

570
00:28:20,988 --> 00:28:24,788
Speaker 6: or not Max Crosby could play on his knee. Regardless

571
00:28:24,828 --> 00:28:26,548
Speaker 6: of what you see. Max Crosby was playing with this

572
00:28:26,668 --> 00:28:30,668
Speaker 6: injury throughout last season. He wanted to continue to play

573
00:28:31,028 --> 00:28:34,748
Speaker 6: with that injury. But if you're prognosticating that to Ian's point,

574
00:28:34,868 --> 00:28:37,148
Speaker 6: and I would disagree. If we say betting is bad,

575
00:28:37,388 --> 00:28:39,268
Speaker 6: we're just not allowed to do it because of what

576
00:28:39,348 --> 00:28:42,988
Speaker 6: our jobs are. I would say it's about four years

577
00:28:43,028 --> 00:28:45,948
Speaker 6: from now, five years from now, what is Max Crosby.

578
00:28:46,148 --> 00:28:48,388
Speaker 6: The flip side of that is you would say, well,

579
00:28:48,468 --> 00:28:50,668
Speaker 6: he's a twenty nine year old player. The knee is

580
00:28:50,708 --> 00:28:53,028
Speaker 6: not going to look like a twenty two year old's knee.

581
00:28:53,188 --> 00:28:54,548
Speaker 6: We think he's going to be able to go for

582
00:28:54,588 --> 00:28:56,788
Speaker 6: a while. We knew the risk that we were taking

583
00:28:56,828 --> 00:28:59,868
Speaker 6: on training for a twenty nine year old player who

584
00:28:59,988 --> 00:29:04,668
Speaker 6: just had a significant knee surgery. The Ravens again, and

585
00:29:04,708 --> 00:29:07,188
Speaker 6: they it's not just their doctor. I understanding, as they

586
00:29:07,228 --> 00:29:10,268
Speaker 6: sought opinions from other leading doctors around the country, was

587
00:29:10,308 --> 00:29:12,828
Speaker 6: that this was just something that they were not willing

588
00:29:13,188 --> 00:29:15,908
Speaker 6: to take the risk. They're not saying Max Crosby cannot

589
00:29:15,908 --> 00:29:18,348
Speaker 6: play football anymore. They're saying, we're not willing to give

590
00:29:18,428 --> 00:29:21,348
Speaker 6: up two first round picks for Max Crosby to play

591
00:29:21,348 --> 00:29:25,428
Speaker 6: football and pay him. The fact that now thirteen hours

592
00:29:25,468 --> 00:29:28,308
Speaker 6: later they have signed, if you just joined us, Trey

593
00:29:28,308 --> 00:29:32,068
Speaker 6: Hendrickson agreed to terms very important for this reason to

594
00:29:32,108 --> 00:29:34,948
Speaker 6: say agreed to terms on a four year, one hundred

595
00:29:34,988 --> 00:29:37,148
Speaker 6: and twelve million dollars that we're saying our four year,

596
00:29:37,188 --> 00:29:40,268
Speaker 6: one hundred and twelve million dollar contract in Baltimore is

597
00:29:40,308 --> 00:29:45,068
Speaker 6: going to do nothing to dampen these suspicions within the

598
00:29:45,148 --> 00:29:49,108
Speaker 6: league that these situations are all related. I would just

599
00:29:49,548 --> 00:29:51,988
Speaker 6: tell you this, Okay, there's listen, there's a lot of

600
00:29:52,028 --> 00:29:54,788
Speaker 6: risk factors. It's hard to project these things, all right.

601
00:29:55,228 --> 00:29:58,988
Speaker 6: Medical science is not always an exact science. When you're

602
00:29:59,028 --> 00:30:04,388
Speaker 6: talking about projecting player performance coming off of injuries. There's analytics, studies,

603
00:30:04,588 --> 00:30:07,548
Speaker 6: teams employ entire departments to analyze these things.

604
00:30:07,588 --> 00:30:08,908
Speaker 3: They give them scores.

605
00:30:08,548 --> 00:30:10,708
Speaker 6: Coming out in the draft about Okay, this guy can play, now,

606
00:30:10,868 --> 00:30:12,988
Speaker 6: where is he going to be in five years. The

607
00:30:13,068 --> 00:30:16,788
Speaker 6: other side of it is there's a trust factor involved

608
00:30:16,788 --> 00:30:19,108
Speaker 6: in these trades, involved in every deal we've seen done

609
00:30:19,148 --> 00:30:22,468
Speaker 6: during the negotiating period because nothing can be final, no

610
00:30:22,588 --> 00:30:25,108
Speaker 6: trades are final. There's a pre trade agreement that allows

611
00:30:25,428 --> 00:30:27,348
Speaker 6: the Ravens to do this exam. They don't have an

612
00:30:27,388 --> 00:30:30,228
Speaker 6: actual trade done, nor can trades be official till four

613
00:30:30,228 --> 00:30:33,788
Speaker 6: pm Eastern time. Every deal that's agreed to, nothing is signed.

614
00:30:34,228 --> 00:30:38,868
Speaker 6: There's a trust factor that other gms feel has been broken.

615
00:30:39,388 --> 00:30:45,028
Speaker 6: I have heard words like buyer's remorse, among others, dirty pool.

616
00:30:45,668 --> 00:30:48,348
Speaker 6: I got a text just now and I would say

617
00:30:48,388 --> 00:30:51,068
Speaker 6: this may not be every person's opinion, but it's a

618
00:30:51,108 --> 00:30:55,148
Speaker 6: text from another established GM in the NFL who wrote this.

619
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Speaker 6: I hope refer to the Ravens. I hope they get

620
00:30:58,908 --> 00:31:02,228
Speaker 6: crushed for this. Just not how you do business. Very

621
00:31:02,308 --> 00:31:05,468
Speaker 6: bs to treat Max or Raiders like this, that is

622
00:31:05,508 --> 00:31:07,388
Speaker 6: something the Ravens are going to have to deal with.

623
00:31:07,748 --> 00:31:10,468
Speaker 6: There's not necessarily anything that can be done because trades

624
00:31:10,468 --> 00:31:12,908
Speaker 6: are unofficial. You can fail guys on fiscals if you

625
00:31:12,948 --> 00:31:15,388
Speaker 6: want to, but it just creates this ripple effect across

626
00:31:15,428 --> 00:31:17,628
Speaker 6: the entire league. Well we know is this the Ravens

627
00:31:17,628 --> 00:31:19,188
Speaker 6: have their pass rusher if they still have their two

628
00:31:19,228 --> 00:31:20,068
Speaker 6: first round picks.

629
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Speaker 3: As they move forward now and when they introduce Trey

630
00:31:22,868 --> 00:31:26,468
Speaker 3: Hendrickson and when they have a press conference, all anyone

631
00:31:26,588 --> 00:31:28,468
Speaker 3: is going to want to ask about is Max Crosby

632
00:31:28,988 --> 00:31:31,308
Speaker 3: and the Ravens can just scope their company in line

633
00:31:31,348 --> 00:31:33,908
Speaker 3: and matches medical medical medical. We weren't. We weren't comfortably,

634
00:31:33,908 --> 00:31:37,068
Speaker 3: weren't comfortable, and that's fine up until the idea again,

635
00:31:37,268 --> 00:31:39,388
Speaker 3: if Max Crosby is to change teams, I want to

636
00:31:39,388 --> 00:31:41,468
Speaker 3: ask you about this Ian someone else will give a

637
00:31:41,508 --> 00:31:44,388
Speaker 3: medical examination and pass them with flying colors and says

638
00:31:44,428 --> 00:31:46,668
Speaker 3: right where we wanted him. Ian to that point, ripple

639
00:31:46,668 --> 00:31:49,668
Speaker 3: effects for this it seems now like Tom said, up

640
00:31:49,708 --> 00:31:52,628
Speaker 3: is down. Let me give you a hypothetical. Somebody who

641
00:31:52,668 --> 00:31:56,108
Speaker 3: was in the Max Crosby pursuit business, like the Dallas Cowboys,

642
00:31:56,628 --> 00:32:00,308
Speaker 3: they say, well, you know now things have changed. Maybe

643
00:32:00,308 --> 00:32:03,628
Speaker 3: Max Crosby's price is down, maybe it's lower, maybe getting

644
00:32:03,668 --> 00:32:06,468
Speaker 3: for cheaper. Could we then go to Rashaan Gary and

645
00:32:06,468 --> 00:32:09,188
Speaker 3: say sorry, we love you, but things change and maybe

646
00:32:09,228 --> 00:32:11,428
Speaker 3: his fail things go gets failed. Like what are the

647
00:32:11,428 --> 00:32:13,748
Speaker 3: potension ripples? You don't do that. That's the whole point.

648
00:32:14,108 --> 00:32:14,868
Speaker 3: Now you knew it.

649
00:32:15,028 --> 00:32:17,668
Speaker 6: That's how the game's being played now the moment, the

650
00:32:17,748 --> 00:32:18,828
Speaker 6: moment things are broken.

651
00:32:18,828 --> 00:32:20,508
Speaker 3: But that's the whole thing, all right.

652
00:32:20,908 --> 00:32:23,948
Speaker 6: Like Ian and I are reporters, Okay, we have new relationships.

653
00:32:23,988 --> 00:32:26,908
Speaker 6: Everything's based on trust. You tell me information. We don't

654
00:32:26,908 --> 00:32:29,028
Speaker 6: report ninety five percent of the things we know because

655
00:32:29,028 --> 00:32:31,828
Speaker 6: it's not stuff that's reportable. The moment that I go

656
00:32:31,868 --> 00:32:34,468
Speaker 6: out there and say something that was off limits, that

657
00:32:34,508 --> 00:32:36,148
Speaker 6: person's never gonna talk to me again.

658
00:32:36,268 --> 00:32:37,268
Speaker 3: It's the same thing.

659
00:32:37,308 --> 00:32:41,348
Speaker 6: From teams to teams, from teams to agents once again.

660
00:32:41,388 --> 00:32:43,708
Speaker 6: And this is just the optics the Ravens. I don't

661
00:32:43,708 --> 00:32:46,148
Speaker 6: anticipate they're going to say anything. They would dispute this,

662
00:32:46,428 --> 00:32:49,628
Speaker 6: but the optics to people within the league is that

663
00:32:49,748 --> 00:32:52,708
Speaker 6: now the Ravens are not a team that you can

664
00:32:52,828 --> 00:32:56,948
Speaker 6: rely on. I had a high profile, well known agent

665
00:32:56,988 --> 00:33:00,508
Speaker 6: who has big clients tell me yesterday, I would not

666
00:33:01,028 --> 00:33:03,308
Speaker 6: unless the Ravens are the last team, I would not

667
00:33:03,468 --> 00:33:08,348
Speaker 6: send another player there. I don't trust them. That is well, Tom,

668
00:33:08,348 --> 00:33:10,748
Speaker 6: they're saying, this is all the coincidence. Are going to

669
00:33:10,748 --> 00:33:13,908
Speaker 6: stand by our doctors. Those teams can kiss our behind.

670
00:33:13,988 --> 00:33:15,748
Speaker 6: It's all just this is how we didn't like the

671
00:33:15,748 --> 00:33:17,028
Speaker 6: medical and then oh trades there.

672
00:33:17,188 --> 00:33:19,708
Speaker 3: They can just stay on the whole way. This is

673
00:33:19,708 --> 00:33:22,268
Speaker 3: all the coincidence. We didn't do anything wrong. But you

674
00:33:22,308 --> 00:33:23,068
Speaker 3: can't go down the road.

675
00:33:23,148 --> 00:33:25,268
Speaker 6: You can't go down the road though, of unwinding trades,

676
00:33:25,308 --> 00:33:28,148
Speaker 6: because then you're going to unwinding other free agent deals.

677
00:33:28,188 --> 00:33:30,228
Speaker 6: All right, there's every now and then every year there's

678
00:33:30,228 --> 00:33:32,708
Speaker 6: one or two or three guys ian I'll then I'll

679
00:33:32,748 --> 00:33:35,308
Speaker 6: let you talk that back out right, the players because

680
00:33:35,308 --> 00:33:36,988
Speaker 6: the player had a change of heart. I know of

681
00:33:37,028 --> 00:33:39,468
Speaker 6: one that happened this week where a player agreed to

682
00:33:39,588 --> 00:33:41,468
Speaker 6: terms and then all of a sudden, the other team

683
00:33:41,508 --> 00:33:43,948
Speaker 6: made a huge push and got them to flip and

684
00:33:43,988 --> 00:33:46,508
Speaker 6: go to a different team. That can still happen right now,

685
00:33:46,588 --> 00:33:49,508
Speaker 6: the hundred deals we've reported, they all could happen, but

686
00:33:49,548 --> 00:33:50,508
Speaker 6: it's bad business for.

687
00:33:50,468 --> 00:33:52,068
Speaker 3: The agents to engage in that.

688
00:33:52,108 --> 00:33:54,628
Speaker 6: It would certainly be bad business for teams to start

689
00:33:54,708 --> 00:33:58,388
Speaker 6: unwinding trades and agreements. You're on a slippery slope here again,

690
00:33:58,508 --> 00:34:00,908
Speaker 6: the Ravens, if and when they speak, and I don't

691
00:34:00,908 --> 00:34:03,348
Speaker 6: anticipate you're going to get any specifics from them publicly

692
00:34:03,588 --> 00:34:05,548
Speaker 6: about Max Crop, it's.

693
00:34:05,388 --> 00:34:05,948
Speaker 3: Going to be.

694
00:34:06,068 --> 00:34:07,908
Speaker 6: If they say anything, it'll be it's medical.

695
00:34:07,988 --> 00:34:09,188
Speaker 3: It was a medical issue.

696
00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:11,988
Speaker 6: It's just not worth the risk for what we were

697
00:34:12,028 --> 00:34:14,748
Speaker 6: giving up. That's the bottom line. Ian, That's where they're

698
00:34:14,788 --> 00:34:18,428
Speaker 6: going to stand. They signed Trey Hendrickson. Other people have suspicions,

699
00:34:18,428 --> 00:34:20,228
Speaker 6: but none of this is official, nor could it be

700
00:34:20,428 --> 00:34:22,948
Speaker 6: until four pm Eastern time today, So who knows. We

701
00:34:22,988 --> 00:34:24,748
Speaker 6: could get another one of these at some point along

702
00:34:24,748 --> 00:34:25,028
Speaker 6: the line.

703
00:34:25,108 --> 00:34:26,148
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah.

704
00:34:26,188 --> 00:34:28,708
Speaker 5: Just to go back to the point that Kyle was

705
00:34:28,748 --> 00:34:30,948
Speaker 5: making about the Cowboys, it feels to me like the

706
00:34:30,988 --> 00:34:33,348
Speaker 5: Cowboys have moved on. It kind of feels to me

707
00:34:33,508 --> 00:34:36,668
Speaker 5: like like everybody has moved on. I mean, Tom's right,

708
00:34:36,748 --> 00:34:39,788
Speaker 5: you cannot unwind any of these trades, and I don't

709
00:34:39,788 --> 00:34:42,028
Speaker 5: really get the sense that it's going to happen. So

710
00:34:42,108 --> 00:34:44,548
Speaker 5: what happened last night, to my understanding, is when this

711
00:34:44,788 --> 00:34:48,428
Speaker 5: became public, when the Raiders said that the Ravens backed out,

712
00:34:48,468 --> 00:34:51,828
Speaker 5: teams called the Raiders to be like ooh, Max Crosby's

713
00:34:51,828 --> 00:34:53,308
Speaker 5: available and the price is going to be low.

714
00:34:53,508 --> 00:34:54,228
Speaker 3: We would like him.

715
00:34:54,268 --> 00:34:56,988
Speaker 5: Got a lot of calls, and to my understanding, the

716
00:34:57,028 --> 00:35:00,268
Speaker 5: reaction was like, well, the price is the price. There's

717
00:35:00,308 --> 00:35:02,988
Speaker 5: two first round picks for Max Rosby. Originally, I don't

718
00:35:02,988 --> 00:35:05,028
Speaker 5: get the censor's going to be a disco. I don't

719
00:35:05,028 --> 00:35:06,868
Speaker 5: get the sense anyone who's going to trade him now,

720
00:35:06,948 --> 00:35:11,588
Speaker 5: especially because the physical was, according to the Ravens, not

721
00:35:11,708 --> 00:35:15,348
Speaker 5: what anybody would have wanted. Maybe things happened down the

722
00:35:15,348 --> 00:35:17,748
Speaker 5: line in the NFL is as we've learned, crazy, So

723
00:35:17,948 --> 00:35:22,268
Speaker 5: maybe in June or August or whenever, there is something.

724
00:35:22,548 --> 00:35:25,868
Speaker 5: But it certainly feels to me like everyone is moving

725
00:35:25,908 --> 00:35:29,868
Speaker 5: forward with Max Crosby being a member of the Raiders,

726
00:35:30,428 --> 00:35:33,188
Speaker 5: And if the Raiders were unsure about trading their best

727
00:35:33,188 --> 00:35:36,068
Speaker 5: player the face of their franchise, they also have a

728
00:35:36,108 --> 00:35:40,108
Speaker 5: redo now. And I would say it certainly seems like

729
00:35:40,188 --> 00:35:45,348
Speaker 5: Crosby himself is sort of okay with it and moving forward.

730
00:35:45,908 --> 00:35:48,668
Speaker 3: I hear what you say. Max Crosby tweeted this morning

731
00:35:49,028 --> 00:35:52,028
Speaker 3: celebrating his own sobriety and saying that God does not

732
00:35:52,068 --> 00:35:54,348
Speaker 3: make mistakes, so he's plugged into something more powerful. He's

733
00:35:54,388 --> 00:35:56,748
Speaker 3: back with the Raiders. Guys. We could talk about this

734
00:35:56,868 --> 00:36:00,028
Speaker 3: all day. The Ravens are going to maintain we will.

735
00:36:00,468 --> 00:36:03,628
Speaker 3: They didn't back out of the Max Crosby deal. Max

736
00:36:03,708 --> 00:36:06,508
Speaker 3: Krosby's he backed out of the Max Crosby deal. It's

737
00:36:06,508 --> 00:36:08,628
Speaker 3: not our fault. We didn't like it, and it's we

738
00:36:08,668 --> 00:36:11,348
Speaker 3: will continue into Tom excellent work. Ian, Thank you very much.

739
00:36:11,388 --> 00:36:12,668
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you guys shortly. We have to get

740
00:36:12,708 --> 00:36:16,468
Speaker 3: to Los Angeles. We would have our two pros slash expros,

741
00:36:16,468 --> 00:36:18,628
Speaker 3: who are being incredibly patient. We wake you guys up

742
00:36:18,628 --> 00:36:20,148
Speaker 3: in one in the morning to talk about football, and

743
00:36:20,188 --> 00:36:21,668
Speaker 3: you got to sit here and wait for the inside.

744
00:36:21,828 --> 00:36:25,188
Speaker 3: They do have the news. Cabinda Shlby pleased. Tell us

745
00:36:25,268 --> 00:36:28,188
Speaker 3: your thoughts. Trey Hendrickson is a Raven. Max Crosby is

746
00:36:28,188 --> 00:36:29,868
Speaker 3: a Raider, take it anywhere you want. Wow.

747
00:36:30,508 --> 00:36:32,708
Speaker 2: Look, if you're the Ravens, you gotta feel a little

748
00:36:32,708 --> 00:36:35,428
Speaker 2: bit like like Dak Prescott. I mean, you had a

749
00:36:35,468 --> 00:36:39,508
Speaker 2: beautiful wedding plan in Italy, us, the fans, everybody in

750
00:36:39,508 --> 00:36:42,308
Speaker 2: the room, we were all invited to this wedding. And

751
00:36:42,348 --> 00:36:45,028
Speaker 2: then Dak found out that his wife had a torn

752
00:36:45,148 --> 00:36:48,028
Speaker 2: meniscus and started to feel like, man, what if my

753
00:36:48,108 --> 00:36:50,228
Speaker 2: kids are going to be injury prone because my wife

754
00:36:50,228 --> 00:36:54,668
Speaker 2: had a torn meniscus? Sounds like BS, right, That's exactly.

755
00:36:54,228 --> 00:36:55,908
Speaker 3: What it is. At the end of the day, it

756
00:36:55,948 --> 00:36:56,828
Speaker 3: is BS.

757
00:36:56,828 --> 00:36:58,708
Speaker 2: And what it looks like to me is that the

758
00:36:58,788 --> 00:37:01,308
Speaker 2: Ravens felt like because we're losing so much players. We

759
00:37:01,348 --> 00:37:03,988
Speaker 2: lost our center, we were losing players here, We lost

760
00:37:03,988 --> 00:37:06,668
Speaker 2: Isaiah likely our best tight end. Man, are we gonna

761
00:37:06,668 --> 00:37:09,188
Speaker 2: have enough money to be able to get players here

762
00:37:09,228 --> 00:37:10,868
Speaker 2: and to be able to shore up the offensive line

763
00:37:10,908 --> 00:37:12,668
Speaker 2: and be able to Are we going to be able

764
00:37:12,708 --> 00:37:15,508
Speaker 2: to bet the house? Is this marriage worth the house?

765
00:37:16,108 --> 00:37:17,908
Speaker 2: And it just seems like at the end of the day,

766
00:37:17,908 --> 00:37:19,588
Speaker 2: all we're gonna hear from the Ravens is that it

767
00:37:19,628 --> 00:37:22,588
Speaker 2: was a medical issue. But what really happened behind the scenes,

768
00:37:22,628 --> 00:37:24,988
Speaker 2: let's called a spade a spade, is that the Ravens

769
00:37:24,988 --> 00:37:26,988
Speaker 2: at the end of the day got cold feet and

770
00:37:27,068 --> 00:37:27,708
Speaker 2: change their mind.

771
00:37:28,428 --> 00:37:33,068
Speaker 4: Man, this is the complete example of buyer's remorse. You

772
00:37:33,508 --> 00:37:37,188
Speaker 4: traded for a Max Crosby two first round picks. You

773
00:37:37,228 --> 00:37:39,508
Speaker 4: went and looked at his knee. You knew he had

774
00:37:39,588 --> 00:37:43,628
Speaker 4: maniskat surgery. We knew this. This is nothing new but

775
00:37:43,708 --> 00:37:46,068
Speaker 4: then you saw like like a Venda said, you lost

776
00:37:46,108 --> 00:37:49,668
Speaker 4: your center, You're losing players, and then Trey Hendrickson is

777
00:37:49,708 --> 00:37:53,588
Speaker 4: still sitting on the market right there for the same

778
00:37:53,628 --> 00:37:56,068
Speaker 4: price you could give a Max Crosby, but with two

779
00:37:56,188 --> 00:37:59,988
Speaker 4: less first round picks. It seems like the NFL is

780
00:38:00,028 --> 00:38:02,428
Speaker 4: going to have to find a way to deal with

781
00:38:02,468 --> 00:38:05,868
Speaker 4: these tampering period deals where once we say it's not

782
00:38:06,028 --> 00:38:08,788
Speaker 4: finalized until a certain time, you're going to see a

783
00:38:08,828 --> 00:38:10,788
Speaker 4: lot of teams, a lot of players now kind of

784
00:38:10,828 --> 00:38:15,068
Speaker 4: cautious about doing any any of these deals. Now it

785
00:38:15,468 --> 00:38:20,108
Speaker 4: sets a nasty precedent to what really the Ravens just did,

786
00:38:20,188 --> 00:38:23,548
Speaker 4: and we'll see exactly how it really ripples through the NFL.

787
00:38:24,468 --> 00:38:27,308
Speaker 2: And let's also, I don't want this to get lost

788
00:38:27,428 --> 00:38:30,948
Speaker 2: either because we're talking negative. We're talking about Max Crosby,

789
00:38:30,988 --> 00:38:34,188
Speaker 2: we're talking about the Ravens. Trey Hendrickson just signed a

790
00:38:34,308 --> 00:38:37,668
Speaker 2: four year, one hundred and twelve million dollars contract. So

791
00:38:37,748 --> 00:38:40,708
Speaker 2: let's talk about the positive as well, because this is

792
00:38:40,748 --> 00:38:43,148
Speaker 2: a dude that has gone through a lot of bs

793
00:38:43,188 --> 00:38:46,148
Speaker 2: as well with his organization. Let's talk about the timeline.

794
00:38:46,228 --> 00:38:49,348
Speaker 2: Right March twenty twenty one, Hendrickson signed a four year,

795
00:38:49,388 --> 00:38:52,788
Speaker 2: sixty million dollars year deal with the Bengals. Right twenty

796
00:38:52,828 --> 00:38:55,908
Speaker 2: twenty one has fourteen sacks that season. Next year twenty

797
00:38:55,908 --> 00:38:59,308
Speaker 2: two has eight sacks. Twenty twenty three, they come back

798
00:39:00,268 --> 00:39:02,708
Speaker 2: and they signed him to just a one year, twenty one.

799
00:39:02,628 --> 00:39:03,988
Speaker 3: Million dollar dollar deal.

800
00:39:04,188 --> 00:39:08,548
Speaker 2: He wanted long term, he wanted security in Cincinnati. They

801
00:39:08,628 --> 00:39:11,228
Speaker 2: refused the year after year to give it to him.

802
00:39:11,348 --> 00:39:13,948
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four has seventeen and a half sacks. He

803
00:39:14,028 --> 00:39:17,028
Speaker 2: comes back and he requests the trade. He requests the trade.

804
00:39:17,028 --> 00:39:18,428
Speaker 2: He said, you guys don't want to hold me down.

805
00:39:18,588 --> 00:39:21,548
Speaker 2: Look what I'm doing, like, I need security too, I

806
00:39:21,588 --> 00:39:24,708
Speaker 2: need long term. Another year, another seventeen and a half sacks.

807
00:39:24,748 --> 00:39:26,828
Speaker 2: Then we saw the hold in in twenty twenty five,

808
00:39:26,868 --> 00:39:29,348
Speaker 2: which ends up he has a four sacked season. Last

809
00:39:29,388 --> 00:39:31,468
Speaker 2: year because he only played in seven games. He ends

810
00:39:31,508 --> 00:39:35,108
Speaker 2: up getting hurt, has surgery, core muscle surgery. Hopefully he

811
00:39:35,188 --> 00:39:37,028
Speaker 2: will be okay. So let's not hold our breath on

812
00:39:37,068 --> 00:39:40,508
Speaker 2: this either, because Trey Hendrickson as well had surgery, and

813
00:39:40,548 --> 00:39:42,948
Speaker 2: we saw how the other deal with another player who

814
00:39:42,948 --> 00:39:46,508
Speaker 2: had surgery went down, So let's let's not all believe

815
00:39:46,588 --> 00:39:49,468
Speaker 2: everything just yet. Let's not hold our breath, Okay, but

816
00:39:49,508 --> 00:39:51,388
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, let's be happy for

817
00:39:51,468 --> 00:39:55,828
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson because he finally and most definitely well deserved

818
00:39:56,068 --> 00:39:59,228
Speaker 2: got the long term security and extension that he's deserved

819
00:39:59,228 --> 00:39:59,948
Speaker 2: for quite some time.

820
00:40:00,308 --> 00:40:02,668
Speaker 3: Poetic words could been there. If there's anything more apropos

821
00:40:02,708 --> 00:40:06,388
Speaker 3: for today, then let's not all belie leave everything just yet. Well,

822
00:40:06,428 --> 00:40:08,828
Speaker 3: I believe this. I'm excited for the Trey Hendrickson and

823
00:40:08,868 --> 00:40:11,428
Speaker 3: Ravens to play against the Bengals next year. I wish

824
00:40:11,508 --> 00:40:14,308
Speaker 3: that the Max Crosby Raiders were playing against the Ravens

825
00:40:14,348 --> 00:40:16,748
Speaker 3: next year. They're not. But you know what else I wish.

826
00:40:16,788 --> 00:40:20,348
Speaker 3: I wish that Max Crosby does eventually get traded, if

827
00:40:20,428 --> 00:40:23,468
Speaker 3: only so he can go through a physical for another

828
00:40:23,508 --> 00:40:26,308
Speaker 3: team and all of their doctors line up be like.

829
00:40:26,628 --> 00:40:29,068
Speaker 7: Beautiful, clean as a whistle of the best knees we've

830
00:40:29,108 --> 00:40:29,548
Speaker 7: ever seen.

831
00:40:29,588 --> 00:40:31,668
Speaker 3: We've never seen better news. Here's the knees of an

832
00:40:31,668 --> 00:40:36,308
Speaker 3: eighteen year old gymnast. It's beautiful. We'll see what happens

833
00:40:36,308 --> 00:40:38,628
Speaker 3: with this thing. Again. I keep saying this all morning.

834
00:40:38,868 --> 00:40:40,908
Speaker 3: I would really like to hear something from the Ravens

835
00:40:40,908 --> 00:40:44,228
Speaker 3: who I completely respect. There's just a lot of mud

836
00:40:44,268 --> 00:40:48,068
Speaker 3: being slung by fans by other teams coming at their

837
00:40:48,108 --> 00:40:51,948
Speaker 3: reputation and their integrity. I would really like to hear

838
00:40:51,988 --> 00:40:53,188
Speaker 3: from that, Shelby, what do you got?

839
00:40:53,948 --> 00:40:56,628
Speaker 4: Once again, the saddest part about this whole thing is

840
00:40:56,788 --> 00:41:00,028
Speaker 4: no one's talking about Trey Hendrickson. This is always going

841
00:41:00,108 --> 00:41:03,988
Speaker 4: to be known as the deal that everyone feels like

842
00:41:04,028 --> 00:41:07,548
Speaker 4: screwed Max Crosby. This is what Trey Henderson has been

843
00:41:07,588 --> 00:41:11,708
Speaker 4: working for his whole life, and it's being overshadowed by

844
00:41:11,908 --> 00:41:15,108
Speaker 4: the sketchiness of the deal by the Baltimore Ravens. I

845
00:41:15,108 --> 00:41:18,108
Speaker 4: think it's not fair to Trey Henderson because he's been

846
00:41:18,148 --> 00:41:21,068
Speaker 4: a hell of a player his whole career and this

847
00:41:21,148 --> 00:41:23,108
Speaker 4: is something that he's worked for his whole life. It's

848
00:41:23,108 --> 00:41:25,668
Speaker 4: something that we really should be focusing on him and

849
00:41:25,748 --> 00:41:29,228
Speaker 4: his accomplishments. But with the ray that the way that

850
00:41:29,268 --> 00:41:31,908
Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens did the deal, this is always going

851
00:41:31,988 --> 00:41:35,388
Speaker 4: to be the second story to really Max Crosby and

852
00:41:35,428 --> 00:41:37,228
Speaker 4: where he's going to end up this year.

853
00:41:37,948 --> 00:41:40,268
Speaker 3: It's thoughtful, it really is, Shelby. The good news is,

854
00:41:40,428 --> 00:41:42,068
Speaker 3: as I'm looking at Twitter here and I'm following like

855
00:41:42,108 --> 00:41:45,188
Speaker 3: everybody else's. Trey Hendrickson couldn't give a damn about being

856
00:41:45,228 --> 00:41:46,988
Speaker 3: talked about. Thank god, He's not that type of guy.

857
00:41:47,228 --> 00:41:49,228
Speaker 3: He is the opposite of that. He wants to play

858
00:41:49,228 --> 00:41:51,068
Speaker 3: football and you know what, he wants to get paid.

859
00:41:51,068 --> 00:41:53,908
Speaker 3: And now he is Trey Hendrickson, love you, congratulations, go

860
00:41:53,988 --> 00:41:56,948
Speaker 3: have twenty sacks this year. He is a Baltimore Raven.

861
00:41:57,508 --> 00:42:02,148
Speaker 3: Agreed to terms nine figures. Trey Hendrickson is staying in

862
00:42:02,188 --> 00:42:04,948
Speaker 3: the division and going to the rival Raven, whereas Max

863
00:42:05,028 --> 00:42:08,948
Speaker 3: Crosby is allegedly with his terrible knee that is completely shot,

864
00:42:09,308 --> 00:42:11,508
Speaker 3: allegedly is going back to the Raiders. We're gonna keep

865
00:42:11,508 --> 00:42:12,708
Speaker 3: talking about this, don't go anywhere.

866
00:42:27,308 --> 00:42:32,108
Speaker 8: Good mon, football, Time for a little buying or keep trying. Now,

867
00:42:32,228 --> 00:42:34,868
Speaker 8: Mike ge, we heard what Ian had to say on Wednesday.

868
00:42:34,868 --> 00:42:37,228
Speaker 8: You actually reported Kyler is not going to be annoyed

869
00:42:37,228 --> 00:42:39,388
Speaker 8: at that starter. He made reference to the fact that

870
00:42:39,668 --> 00:42:42,828
Speaker 8: this is a situation where he could be competing for

871
00:42:42,908 --> 00:42:44,828
Speaker 8: a job. Is that what the reality is going to

872
00:42:44,828 --> 00:42:46,428
Speaker 8: be when you bring in a guy like Kyler Murray.

873
00:42:46,588 --> 00:42:48,788
Speaker 9: I gotta buy my own report, right, I can't be

874
00:42:48,908 --> 00:42:50,748
Speaker 9: like I keep trying I get and know what he's

875
00:42:50,788 --> 00:42:51,348
Speaker 9: talking about.

876
00:42:51,388 --> 00:42:53,428
Speaker 3: So yes, I am buying it.

877
00:42:53,908 --> 00:42:57,108
Speaker 9: From my understanding, this is going to be something where

878
00:42:57,828 --> 00:43:00,148
Speaker 9: they want it to be good for the short term

879
00:43:00,148 --> 00:43:02,468
Speaker 9: and also the long term for the Vikings.

880
00:43:02,668 --> 00:43:06,148
Speaker 3: And by that I mean and go back to last year.

881
00:43:06,068 --> 00:43:08,468
Speaker 9: Right, like we kept talking about the Vikings should bring

882
00:43:08,468 --> 00:43:10,108
Speaker 9: in a proven veteran and they didn't.

883
00:43:10,308 --> 00:43:13,028
Speaker 3: They had a clear runway once they lost Sam Donald

884
00:43:13,068 --> 00:43:13,788
Speaker 3: to the Seahawks.

885
00:43:14,308 --> 00:43:17,948
Speaker 9: For JJ, McCarthy didn't want anybody looking over his shoulder

886
00:43:17,988 --> 00:43:19,668
Speaker 9: or in his ear like we wanted to give him

887
00:43:19,708 --> 00:43:22,628
Speaker 9: the chance to understand that he's the future of the franchise.

888
00:43:22,788 --> 00:43:24,108
Speaker 3: This is gonna be a little different, though.

889
00:43:24,188 --> 00:43:26,108
Speaker 9: This is gonna be you gotta beat this guy out,

890
00:43:26,548 --> 00:43:30,268
Speaker 9: and in their minds, Kyler Murray could go in play

891
00:43:30,308 --> 00:43:33,868
Speaker 9: extremely well, sort of like Sam Darnald did for the

892
00:43:33,948 --> 00:43:37,828
Speaker 9: Vikings and reset himself up as a proven long term

893
00:43:37,868 --> 00:43:40,068
Speaker 9: starter for a team, whether it's the Vikings or somebody else,

894
00:43:40,788 --> 00:43:44,748
Speaker 9: and maybe that's their guy moving forward, or maybe McCarthy responds,

895
00:43:45,148 --> 00:43:49,028
Speaker 9: still got some growing up to do, still got some

896
00:43:49,748 --> 00:43:51,828
Speaker 9: coming along to do, and maybe he does it because

897
00:43:51,828 --> 00:43:53,428
Speaker 9: of the challenge. So I am buying that it will

898
00:43:53,468 --> 00:43:55,748
Speaker 9: be a quarterback competition, and that we will be covering

899
00:43:55,748 --> 00:43:58,068
Speaker 9: the vikings at inside training camp saying, hey, what's the

900
00:43:58,148 --> 00:44:01,468
Speaker 9: latest in the competition competition between Kyler Murray and JJ McCarthy.

901
00:44:01,868 --> 00:44:03,508
Speaker 10: Mike Ge, I'm with you on this one. I was

902
00:44:03,548 --> 00:44:05,548
Speaker 10: against you on the map scrawsby thing. I still think

903
00:44:05,588 --> 00:44:08,188
Speaker 10: it's very effishing, But this one, I'm buying this one.

904
00:44:08,228 --> 00:44:08,548
Speaker 3: This is a.

905
00:44:08,588 --> 00:44:12,628
Speaker 10: Quarterback competition, no doubt about it. Because tell me what

906
00:44:12,788 --> 00:44:16,588
Speaker 10: has either quarterback done, Kyler Murray or JJ McCarthy. What

907
00:44:16,708 --> 00:44:19,588
Speaker 10: have they done to prove that they are the starters?

908
00:44:19,748 --> 00:44:22,628
Speaker 10: I mean JJ McCarthy obviously rookie year, he's heard, he's

909
00:44:22,628 --> 00:44:23,348
Speaker 10: out the whole season.

910
00:44:23,388 --> 00:44:25,628
Speaker 3: He came back. Look at this what is it? Look

911
00:44:25,628 --> 00:44:27,908
Speaker 3: at his throws? What are we talking about here? This?

912
00:44:28,308 --> 00:44:31,468
Speaker 10: This guy cannot be your proven starter. There's no chance

913
00:44:31,788 --> 00:44:34,628
Speaker 10: that after the body of work the JJ McCarthy put

914
00:44:34,628 --> 00:44:37,228
Speaker 10: out the last season in Minnesota, everybody wants him to

915
00:44:37,268 --> 00:44:40,388
Speaker 10: be the next quarterback, then the next franchise quarterback for Minnesota.

916
00:44:40,428 --> 00:44:42,068
Speaker 10: If you're a fan, you want to and you saw

917
00:44:42,148 --> 00:44:43,788
Speaker 10: glimpses of it, I'm not gonna lie.

918
00:44:43,828 --> 00:44:46,108
Speaker 3: You saw glimpses of it. JJ McCarthy look.

919
00:44:46,108 --> 00:44:48,468
Speaker 10: Like, Okay, he's got the skills, right, he can, he can,

920
00:44:48,668 --> 00:44:50,748
Speaker 10: he can, especially in crunch time, maybe he can get

921
00:44:50,748 --> 00:44:52,388
Speaker 10: it done. But at the end of the day, I go,

922
00:44:52,788 --> 00:44:54,908
Speaker 10: what has he done to show me that he is

923
00:44:55,028 --> 00:44:57,508
Speaker 10: absolutely one hundred percent the quarterback of the future. He

924
00:44:57,588 --> 00:44:59,988
Speaker 10: had every opportunity last year to get it done. He's

925
00:45:00,028 --> 00:45:03,268
Speaker 10: got maybe the best wide receiver in all the football

926
00:45:03,308 --> 00:45:05,908
Speaker 10: and justin Jefferson they couldn't get on the same page.

927
00:45:05,988 --> 00:45:08,628
Speaker 10: So you and he's got a quarterback guru and koc there.

928
00:45:08,788 --> 00:45:10,628
Speaker 10: You tell me what has he done?

929
00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:11,628
Speaker 3: Kyler? Same thing?

930
00:45:11,708 --> 00:45:13,468
Speaker 10: I go, Okay, you look at his body, you work

931
00:45:13,468 --> 00:45:16,868
Speaker 10: in Arizona. What has he done to show me coming

932
00:45:16,868 --> 00:45:18,708
Speaker 10: in that this is going to be your guy? These

933
00:45:18,748 --> 00:45:20,628
Speaker 10: guys you've got it. You've got to put them both

934
00:45:20,668 --> 00:45:24,228
Speaker 10: in there, spin them around, spit one out, and let's

935
00:45:24,268 --> 00:45:25,068
Speaker 10: see who we're going with.

936
00:45:25,148 --> 00:45:26,908
Speaker 3: That's how I feel about it. I'm buying baby, What

937
00:45:26,988 --> 00:45:27,268
Speaker 3: about you?

938
00:45:27,348 --> 00:45:31,028
Speaker 2: Covinda, I'm also buying it, and I'm buying it because

939
00:45:31,348 --> 00:45:33,908
Speaker 2: I think these are two quarterbacks who are at a

940
00:45:34,108 --> 00:45:37,428
Speaker 2: fork in the road for both of their careers. I

941
00:45:37,468 --> 00:45:40,148
Speaker 2: was never very high on JJ McCarthy coming out of college.

942
00:45:40,388 --> 00:45:42,308
Speaker 2: You see some of those stat lines, you know he

943
00:45:42,388 --> 00:45:44,588
Speaker 2: was carried like a backpack with that run game in Michigan.

944
00:45:44,788 --> 00:45:46,428
Speaker 2: And I'm not just saying that because I'm a Penn

945
00:45:46,468 --> 00:45:49,428
Speaker 2: State guy and I absolutely hate the University of Michigan,

946
00:45:49,588 --> 00:45:52,188
Speaker 2: but because it's just the truth. Ten passes some games,

947
00:45:52,228 --> 00:45:54,588
Speaker 2: eleven passes some games. I just didn't feel like I

948
00:45:54,628 --> 00:45:59,068
Speaker 2: saw enough output from JJ McCarthy to warrant franchise quarterback

949
00:45:59,068 --> 00:46:01,548
Speaker 2: coming out of college. And now you've seen in the NFL,

950
00:46:01,708 --> 00:46:04,108
Speaker 2: and he struggled pretty early. Obviously, he had an injury

951
00:46:04,148 --> 00:46:06,948
Speaker 2: to get a true rookie year, and then got tossed

952
00:46:07,028 --> 00:46:09,588
Speaker 2: right into the fire that following year and was not

953
00:46:09,628 --> 00:46:11,588
Speaker 2: able to perform very well. And then you look at

954
00:46:11,588 --> 00:46:14,468
Speaker 2: a guy like Kyler Murray who's uber talented, but just

955
00:46:14,548 --> 00:46:16,588
Speaker 2: based on specs, this is a guy who's listed at

956
00:46:16,628 --> 00:46:19,508
Speaker 2: five ten, one hundred and ninety five, probably closer to five.

957
00:46:19,308 --> 00:46:21,028
Speaker 3: To eight if we're being completely honest.

958
00:46:21,268 --> 00:46:24,268
Speaker 2: But look, twenty thousand passing yards, three thousand rushing yards,

959
00:46:24,308 --> 00:46:28,348
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty three touchdowns over seven seasons. Got talent,

960
00:46:28,428 --> 00:46:31,268
Speaker 2: got league talent, got the impossible angles and stuff.

961
00:46:31,428 --> 00:46:32,668
Speaker 3: But is it winning football.

962
00:46:32,828 --> 00:46:36,268
Speaker 2: Is it a play style that can translate into winning football.

963
00:46:36,268 --> 00:46:38,708
Speaker 2: That's the real question with Kyler Murray. There are gonna

964
00:46:38,708 --> 00:46:41,348
Speaker 2: be teams and organizations who rule him out just based

965
00:46:41,388 --> 00:46:42,908
Speaker 2: off specs and the fact that that's just not the

966
00:46:42,908 --> 00:46:44,908
Speaker 2: type of quarterback that they want to play with.

967
00:46:45,108 --> 00:46:46,708
Speaker 3: You know, he's at a fourth.

968
00:46:46,468 --> 00:46:50,068
Speaker 2: From a standpoint of being a journeyman quarterback or continuing

969
00:46:50,068 --> 00:46:51,988
Speaker 2: to play meaningful football in his career.

970
00:46:52,268 --> 00:46:52,908
Speaker 3: Both of these.

971
00:46:52,788 --> 00:46:54,948
Speaker 2: Guys will be highly motivated. I think it's going to

972
00:46:54,988 --> 00:46:57,148
Speaker 2: be a great quarterback battle to see who's gonna.

973
00:46:56,908 --> 00:46:58,508
Speaker 11: Win out situation NOL.

974
00:46:59,228 --> 00:47:02,348
Speaker 8: The situation really does matter when we talk about successive quarterbacks.

975
00:47:02,348 --> 00:47:03,468
Speaker 11: I dick about Kyler Murray.

976
00:47:03,468 --> 00:47:05,668
Speaker 8: Where he's been in are a multiple head coaches, We

977
00:47:05,708 --> 00:47:08,148
Speaker 8: talk about a revolving tour on the offensive line, skill position,

978
00:47:08,308 --> 00:47:10,348
Speaker 8: they try to bolster some of those things. I do

979
00:47:10,428 --> 00:47:12,588
Speaker 8: wonder the fit and to Set's point, it does make sense.

980
00:47:12,588 --> 00:47:14,228
Speaker 8: He would have argue to be the best wide receiver

981
00:47:14,268 --> 00:47:16,748
Speaker 8: in the game, and justin Jefferson. But Mike, when I

982
00:47:16,788 --> 00:47:20,828
Speaker 8: think about the scenario here, you tell me in NFL circles,

983
00:47:21,028 --> 00:47:23,948
Speaker 8: is it from a Pittsburgh perspective? Just wait and see

984
00:47:23,988 --> 00:47:27,188
Speaker 8: on Aaron Rodgers or their conversations meaningful conversations that you

985
00:47:27,268 --> 00:47:29,148
Speaker 8: expect to happen with regard to Kyler.

986
00:47:28,988 --> 00:47:30,708
Speaker 11: Murray maybe being their starting quarterback.

987
00:47:31,468 --> 00:47:36,908
Speaker 9: It's somewhere in between. The Steelers have started to look

988
00:47:36,908 --> 00:47:39,788
Speaker 9: at potential contingency plans because they don't know, but they also,

989
00:47:39,988 --> 00:47:41,948
Speaker 9: you know, if Rodgers wants to come back, it seems

990
00:47:41,988 --> 00:47:45,348
Speaker 9: like that's the opportunity that he has in Pittsburgh to

991
00:47:45,428 --> 00:47:49,108
Speaker 9: reunite with Mike McCarthy and be the guy there. And

992
00:47:49,988 --> 00:47:52,068
Speaker 9: the way that they've approached it, the Steelers have I

993
00:47:52,068 --> 00:47:56,588
Speaker 9: think they're confident that Rogers comes back, just because if they.

994
00:47:56,468 --> 00:47:57,988
Speaker 3: Weren't, they would have been more active.

995
00:47:57,988 --> 00:48:01,708
Speaker 9: I would have heard them more involved with these conversations

996
00:48:01,748 --> 00:48:02,468
Speaker 9: with quarterbacks.

997
00:48:02,468 --> 00:48:04,308
Speaker 3: It seems like it's more of a hey, you know,

998
00:48:04,668 --> 00:48:05,468
Speaker 3: where are you now?

999
00:48:05,468 --> 00:48:07,028
Speaker 9: They're going to have some options if you look at

1000
00:48:07,028 --> 00:48:10,188
Speaker 9: the quarterback market, whether it's Kirk Cousins or you know,

1001
00:48:10,268 --> 00:48:12,228
Speaker 9: some of these other options that are potentially available.

1002
00:48:12,228 --> 00:48:14,988
Speaker 3: I talked about Derek Carr yesterday. By the way, teams

1003
00:48:15,028 --> 00:48:15,468
Speaker 3: did have.

1004
00:48:15,428 --> 00:48:18,708
Speaker 9: Conversations internally at least about Derek Carr, but the Saints

1005
00:48:18,748 --> 00:48:22,028
Speaker 9: were going to want compensation back because they still hold

1006
00:48:22,068 --> 00:48:25,068
Speaker 9: his rights. Whereas for Kyler Murray or to a tongue

1007
00:48:25,068 --> 00:48:27,788
Speaker 9: of Iloa or Gino Smith, there was no cop Well,

1008
00:48:27,908 --> 00:48:29,828
Speaker 9: Gino there was a trade, but the other guys there

1009
00:48:29,868 --> 00:48:32,548
Speaker 9: was no compensation via a trade. And the Bay salary

1010
00:48:32,588 --> 00:48:34,188
Speaker 9: is so low because the other teams are picking up

1011
00:48:34,188 --> 00:48:36,388
Speaker 9: the tab there. So the Steelers are going to have

1012
00:48:36,428 --> 00:48:39,188
Speaker 9: options moving forward if Rogers doesn't come back, but they're

1013
00:48:39,188 --> 00:48:41,788
Speaker 9: not hitting the throttle right now with regard to Kyler

1014
00:48:41,868 --> 00:48:43,308
Speaker 9: Murray being their guy.

1015
00:48:43,388 --> 00:48:45,268
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, So once again, more on Rogers coming

1016
00:48:45,308 --> 00:48:47,388
Speaker 8: up in just a bit here on Good Morning Football. Meanwhile,

1017
00:48:47,388 --> 00:48:49,748
Speaker 8: the Colts, speaking at quarterbacks, they brought back their guy,

1018
00:48:49,828 --> 00:48:52,308
Speaker 8: Daniel Jones, two year, eighty eight million dollar deal. You

1019
00:48:52,348 --> 00:48:54,628
Speaker 8: could push that total up to one hundred million dollars

1020
00:48:54,668 --> 00:48:57,188
Speaker 8: based on incentives and at the wide receiver spot.

1021
00:48:57,228 --> 00:48:57,428
Speaker 3: I know.

1022
00:48:57,468 --> 00:48:58,748
Speaker 11: So there's a lot of cash here.

1023
00:48:59,108 --> 00:49:01,828
Speaker 8: Alex Pierce, who is a hot name on the agent market,

1024
00:49:01,828 --> 00:49:04,108
Speaker 8: four year, one hundred and fourteen million dollar deal.

1025
00:49:04,468 --> 00:49:06,828
Speaker 11: Are you buying what the Colts have done?

1026
00:49:07,188 --> 00:49:09,788
Speaker 8: Were we a little sort of concern right now based

1027
00:49:09,828 --> 00:49:11,948
Speaker 8: off of seth what we saw that finish at the

1028
00:49:12,028 --> 00:49:12,548
Speaker 8: end of the year.

1029
00:49:13,668 --> 00:49:16,468
Speaker 10: I mean, it was a very epic collapse. I mean,

1030
00:49:16,508 --> 00:49:18,628
Speaker 10: if you're a Colts fan, you know you still have

1031
00:49:18,708 --> 00:49:21,868
Speaker 10: those feelings of what could have been last season. Look,

1032
00:49:21,988 --> 00:49:25,068
Speaker 10: I am buying what they've done. They locked up their quarterback,

1033
00:49:25,108 --> 00:49:27,508
Speaker 10: their QB one, they locked up their wide receiver one.

1034
00:49:27,668 --> 00:49:29,788
Speaker 10: They're in a good position. They got Tyler Warren there

1035
00:49:29,828 --> 00:49:32,188
Speaker 10: at tight end. They still got Jonathan Taylor, and they

1036
00:49:32,188 --> 00:49:34,628
Speaker 10: got Shane Stikeen. That offense is going to be fine. Look,

1037
00:49:34,788 --> 00:49:37,948
Speaker 10: this team wins the AFC South. I'll throw it out there.

1038
00:49:37,948 --> 00:49:41,268
Speaker 10: They win the AFC South if Daniel Jones doesn't get hurt.

1039
00:49:41,508 --> 00:49:42,868
Speaker 10: I know they had a little bit of a rough

1040
00:49:42,908 --> 00:49:46,068
Speaker 10: stretch before he went down, but he was kind of

1041
00:49:46,108 --> 00:49:48,988
Speaker 10: holding the whole thing together. Remember they finished the season

1042
00:49:49,548 --> 00:49:55,348
Speaker 10: with Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers old man Rivers out of retirement.

1043
00:49:55,388 --> 00:49:58,228
Speaker 10: Were the only conversation we are having was Ken, this

1044
00:49:58,348 --> 00:50:01,828
Speaker 10: guy just win one game with the Colts to get

1045
00:50:01,868 --> 00:50:03,188
Speaker 10: them into the playoffs.

1046
00:50:03,188 --> 00:50:04,028
Speaker 3: That's where we were at.

1047
00:50:04,468 --> 00:50:06,308
Speaker 10: I mean, if you throw Daniel Jones in there, a

1048
00:50:06,348 --> 00:50:09,148
Speaker 10: healthy Daniel Jones at the way he was playing for

1049
00:50:09,308 --> 00:50:11,028
Speaker 10: most of the first half of the season, I think

1050
00:50:11,068 --> 00:50:12,868
Speaker 10: the Colts win the playoffs and we aren't even having

1051
00:50:12,868 --> 00:50:15,348
Speaker 10: this buying to keep trying situation. So I am buying

1052
00:50:15,388 --> 00:50:17,948
Speaker 10: what they've done. They made the moves. Kudos to Daniel Jones,

1053
00:50:18,028 --> 00:50:20,148
Speaker 10: the guy who's written off in New York and has

1054
00:50:20,188 --> 00:50:23,788
Speaker 10: now gotten paid. Man, gotten paid for what he's done

1055
00:50:23,908 --> 00:50:24,548
Speaker 10: on the field.

1056
00:50:24,548 --> 00:50:25,788
Speaker 3: That is an awesome story.

1057
00:50:25,828 --> 00:50:26,868
Speaker 11: But yeah, I'm buying this.

1058
00:50:27,068 --> 00:50:28,468
Speaker 3: I'm buying it. Come in then let's go.

1059
00:50:28,708 --> 00:50:32,508
Speaker 2: Look seth. I love the sentiment. Yeah, Q, it sounded good.

1060
00:50:32,508 --> 00:50:35,028
Speaker 2: They had the little one year Super Bowl window. Man,

1061
00:50:35,148 --> 00:50:38,788
Speaker 2: it was one moment. Look, look, I love it was cute.

1062
00:50:38,948 --> 00:50:41,748
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones was able to do the resurgence story.

1063
00:50:41,788 --> 00:50:42,988
Speaker 3: It felt so good.

1064
00:50:43,428 --> 00:50:45,388
Speaker 2: But I think there are some moves that have truly

1065
00:50:45,468 --> 00:50:48,188
Speaker 2: hurt this team this offseason. I absolutely hate that they

1066
00:50:48,268 --> 00:50:50,588
Speaker 2: let a guy like Zaire Franklin go, a four or

1067
00:50:50,628 --> 00:50:52,628
Speaker 2: five time captain for that team, led the league in

1068
00:50:52,668 --> 00:50:57,148
Speaker 2: tackles multiple years, has the tackling record there in Indianapolis.

1069
00:50:57,148 --> 00:51:00,788
Speaker 2: He letting Nick Cross go, you're starting safety. You overpay

1070
00:51:00,868 --> 00:51:03,908
Speaker 2: for Alec Pearson. I say overpaid because Alec Pierce is

1071
00:51:03,908 --> 00:51:07,708
Speaker 2: more splash play wide receiver. I think to garner that

1072
00:51:07,788 --> 00:51:10,228
Speaker 2: type of money, you need to be a routine play

1073
00:51:10,228 --> 00:51:12,428
Speaker 2: wide receiver, and for me, Alex Pierce is more of

1074
00:51:12,468 --> 00:51:15,708
Speaker 2: a deep ball, flash play, splash play type of receiver

1075
00:51:16,508 --> 00:51:18,228
Speaker 2: just over a thousand yards. I know he had a

1076
00:51:18,228 --> 00:51:20,628
Speaker 2: lot of yards per catch, but he's not a guy

1077
00:51:20,668 --> 00:51:23,228
Speaker 2: that is just so involved in an offense. From a

1078
00:51:23,268 --> 00:51:25,828
Speaker 2: standpoint like man, you could rely on him down after

1079
00:51:25,988 --> 00:51:28,228
Speaker 2: down after down. I just don't feel that way about him.

1080
00:51:28,228 --> 00:51:30,188
Speaker 2: I love the speed, I love the big play potential,

1081
00:51:30,428 --> 00:51:33,268
Speaker 2: but I just I don't like that. And then you

1082
00:51:33,308 --> 00:51:36,228
Speaker 2: also let Quitty pego one of your better pass rushers.

1083
00:51:36,308 --> 00:51:38,788
Speaker 2: I understand you went and got arden Key, but arden

1084
00:51:38,868 --> 00:51:41,508
Speaker 2: Key is more of a true pass rusher. Quitty pay

1085
00:51:41,588 --> 00:51:43,628
Speaker 2: is a more complete defensive end. And I know he's

1086
00:51:43,668 --> 00:51:46,308
Speaker 2: older and things of that nature, but I just don't

1087
00:51:46,348 --> 00:51:48,308
Speaker 2: like the moves. And I think that that little one

1088
00:51:48,388 --> 00:51:51,348
Speaker 2: year Super Bowl windows is closedow one year.

1089
00:51:51,828 --> 00:51:53,628
Speaker 3: You know who else is a complete defensive end.

1090
00:51:53,628 --> 00:51:55,868
Speaker 9: I'm so glad you brought that up, because Trey Hendrickson

1091
00:51:55,908 --> 00:51:57,028
Speaker 9: is a complete defensive end.

1092
00:51:57,028 --> 00:51:58,868
Speaker 3: And Trey Hendrickson has history with.

1093
00:51:58,868 --> 00:52:02,108
Speaker 9: Defensive coordinator lou Anromo and played unbelievable football for him

1094
00:52:02,108 --> 00:52:02,868
Speaker 9: in Cincinnati.

1095
00:52:03,228 --> 00:52:05,588
Speaker 3: And I really thought the Indianapolis Colts.

1096
00:52:05,668 --> 00:52:07,548
Speaker 9: I know they were involved, but I really thought they

1097
00:52:07,588 --> 00:52:09,428
Speaker 9: were gonna say, we are going to go for it.

1098
00:52:09,428 --> 00:52:11,268
Speaker 9: We're gonna go for it hard with Trey Hendrickson and

1099
00:52:12,188 --> 00:52:14,908
Speaker 9: maybe had not maybe had themselves a window before the

1100
00:52:14,908 --> 00:52:17,068
Speaker 9: Max Crosby trade fell apart and the Ravens said we

1101
00:52:17,108 --> 00:52:18,708
Speaker 9: absolutely got to do what we have to do to

1102
00:52:18,708 --> 00:52:21,468
Speaker 9: get Hendrickson that they could have potentially gotten it done.

1103
00:52:21,508 --> 00:52:24,468
Speaker 9: So I'm gonna say keep trying because arden Key is good.

1104
00:52:24,468 --> 00:52:27,428
Speaker 9: You're right, pass rusher are gonna create a little bit

1105
00:52:27,508 --> 00:52:31,188
Speaker 9: of an issue for quarterbacks, But Trey Hendrickson On that

1106
00:52:31,268 --> 00:52:33,908
Speaker 9: defense would have been something that would have taken it

1107
00:52:33,948 --> 00:52:35,388
Speaker 9: to the next level of my mind. So I'm going

1108
00:52:35,428 --> 00:52:37,388
Speaker 9: to keep trying a little disappointed that they didn't go

1109
00:52:37,708 --> 00:52:38,988
Speaker 9: even harder for Hendrickson.

1110
00:52:39,068 --> 00:52:40,948
Speaker 8: Yeah, to be fair, by the way, Mike, they did

1111
00:52:40,988 --> 00:52:42,668
Speaker 8: put the Chips in the middle of the table last

1112
00:52:42,748 --> 00:52:43,668
Speaker 8: year at the trade deadline.

1113
00:52:43,708 --> 00:52:44,588
Speaker 11: Two first round picks.

1114
00:52:44,588 --> 00:52:47,988
Speaker 8: That's pretty significant compensation for Sauce Gardner, who.

1115
00:52:47,588 --> 00:52:49,028
Speaker 11: Once again was banked up.

1116
00:52:49,068 --> 00:52:51,108
Speaker 8: I don't we you know, Sethan, I know you say

1117
00:52:51,188 --> 00:52:52,988
Speaker 8: keep trying here, but at the same time, like, let's

1118
00:52:53,028 --> 00:52:54,548
Speaker 8: see that guy out on the football field.

1119
00:52:54,588 --> 00:52:58,148
Speaker 11: And figure out what they end up looking like.

1120
00:52:58,468 --> 00:53:00,068
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, look, you got to go out there

1121
00:53:00,068 --> 00:53:02,228
Speaker 10: and play the games. It's not like the division's awful.

1122
00:53:02,268 --> 00:53:04,948
Speaker 10: You know, the Texans are good, the Jaguars are good division.

1123
00:53:04,988 --> 00:53:07,268
Speaker 10: But I do think they put themselves in the best

1124
00:53:07,268 --> 00:53:10,828
Speaker 10: position to win the games. And again we look at

1125
00:53:10,828 --> 00:53:14,068
Speaker 10: the collapse, but Daniel Jones was out, he was gone,

1126
00:53:14,148 --> 00:53:15,988
Speaker 10: he was done, and they were a different They were

1127
00:53:16,028 --> 00:53:19,188
Speaker 10: a shell of themselves with Philip Rivers love old man Rivers,

1128
00:53:19,188 --> 00:53:20,948
Speaker 10: great story, but they were just a shell of themselves.

1129
00:53:20,948 --> 00:53:23,788
Speaker 10: So I come on, I'm buying I like these movies.

1130
00:53:23,828 --> 00:53:28,228
Speaker 3: Guys, I would all keep trying. I'm buying it. Baby,

1131
00:53:28,308 --> 00:53:29,108
Speaker 3: let's go Colts.

1132
00:53:29,508 --> 00:53:30,668
Speaker 11: I'm locked, I swear.

1133
00:53:37,508 --> 00:53:39,148
Speaker 3: Good Morning Football.