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I remember 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.080 when the email hit my inbox that I'd have the 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.960 chance to interview the vice president and it was the 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.280 dream of a lifetime. I immediately called my team, we 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:09.160 started plotting. We had a few obstacles. It needed to 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:13.160 take place more than a thousand miles away in Minneapolis, Oh, 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.200 and we had to interview her in just thirty six hours. 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:21.240 We booked flights, prepared for the interview, tried to remain calm. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:25.040 I'll be honest, this wasn't my first time interviewing powerful 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.640 political women. In my previous life, my pretty pivot. I 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:32.359 was all in on politics. I started my career working 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.000 on the repeal of Donas Dontell, I worked on the 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.400 Obama campaign, and I worked as a vice president in 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.600 one of the top think tanks in the country. But 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.960 having kids and working at all hours, it wasn't working, 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.560 and eventually I had to make the choice to pivot. 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.639 It wasn't easy, and to this day, I still question 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.920 if leaving behind my old career was really the right move. 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.720 Still I keep a toe in appearing on countless cable 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.720 news shows as a political correspondent, joining us now to 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:02.880 discuss Democratic strategist Emily titch Sussman and political dissture with 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.120 you and just kind of get your reaction of what 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.639 we heard handle Emily titch Susman is a democratic strategist, 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:13.880 Joe Walsh and interviewing so many incredible women like Stacy Abrams, Speaker, 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:20.280 Nancy Pelosi, and the HRC. That was cool. It's been 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.560 a whirlwind of ups and downs, and through it all 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:27.640 I began to redefine my idea of success. So I 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:31.200 started this show She Pivots as a way to bring 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:35.000 stories of women like me who have changed career paths entirely, 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.840 or explored new roads and then found their way back. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:43.320 It's that exact mentality that I wished we embraced more. 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:48.360 There's always tomorrow, There's always something new, and maybe even 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:55.880 something better than you ever could have imagined. When I 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.680 was preparing for my interview with the Vice President, I 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.160 realized her story is at the crux of what this 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:06.360 show is all about. On paper, there's no question that 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:10.120 Kamala Harris has achieved success, but the real success is 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.760 taking on the challenge of the pivot and occupying spaces 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:17.039 so many people told her that she was not welcome in, 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.840 she always took that next step, rising to the occasion 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:25.000 to meet the needs of those around her. Pivoting is 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:29.680 many things, but pushing the envelope and finding new determinants 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.880 of what success means to us and been making that 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:38.599 change is essential to this show. Welcome back to she 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:48.479 Pivots Vice President. Kamala Harris has been in public service 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.360 for several decades, ever since she started her career as 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.800 a young prosecutor in San Francisco with a ninety percent 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:01.400 conviction rate. Superstar prosecutor. Kamala Harris made history when she 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:07.160 was elected California's first African American female district attorney. She 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.720 then set her sights on statewide office and announced her 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:14.600 run for Attorney General of California. Then in twenty fifteen, 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.360 she announced her run for the Senate, launching her into 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:21.200 the national spotlight. After her short success in the Senate, 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:25.279 she announced her candidacy for president in January of twenty nineteen. 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:31.839 And that's why we are here today. And that's why 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.960 we are here today. I stand before you today to 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:49.640 announce my candidacy for President of the United States. Fast 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.159 forward a few months into twenty twenty. The COVID nineteen 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.120 pandemic was at its peak and the country was grappling 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.919 with a racial reckoning, and Joe Biden had to announce 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:02.800 his running mate, promising to select a woman. The decision 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.440 was delayed and delayed again, with reports swirling that he 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:10.960 would choose Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer over Harris, But eventually, 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.440 on August eleventh, twenty twenty, Biden announced that he had 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:18.039 chosen Kamala Harris as his running mate. The presidential candidate 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.520 Joe Biden has made his choice. NBC News is confirmed 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:25.400 that Biden has picked California Senator Kamala Harris to be 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.120 his running mate. First of all, is the answer yes? 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:32.320 The answer is absolutely, And I am ready to work. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.800 I am ready to do this with you, for you. 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.479 The Biden Harris ticket one in November twenty twenty, and 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.719 Kamala Harris was inaugurated as the first female black Asian 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:53.000 American Vice president in United States history on January twentieth, 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:57.960 twenty twenty one. We did it, Joe, You're going to 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.600 be the next President of the United Dave. Is a 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:06.920 historic moment of verse to administer the oath to our 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:11.080 first African American, our first Asian American, and our first 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:16.720 woman vice president, Kamala Harris. It is my great privilege I, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:22.760 Kamala Davy Harris, do solemnly swear by Kamala Davy Harris 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.640 issmly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:33.600 of the United States. Threw every up and down. She 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.000 stepped into each role knowing that she could impart change 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.760 and have a real lasting impact on people. But I 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.440 wanted to understand the catalyst that set her up on 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.800 that path to the White House. She started by telling 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:48.880 us a story about how one of her high school 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:57.600 friends inspired her into the work. Was there a moment 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.160 in your life that you thought, Yes, this is the 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.520 thing that is going to change my perspective, and I'm 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.760 going to do it. One of my best friends in 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.440 high school, while we were in high school, I learned 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:18.320 that she was being molested and I immediately said to her, well, 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.840 you have to come live with us. And I called 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.840 my mother and I was like, Mommy, and she was like, yeah, 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.840 she has to come live with us. And so she did, 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:36.439 and I learned what it was and just one the 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.959 horrendous nature of what was happening in terms of the 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:45.440 act itself, but also the effect and which is you know, 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:50.400 there's so many layers to it, but the powerlessness that 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.120 also is a part of it, that that one is 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:57.679 rendered to feel as though they are powerless in many ways. 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.000 That was one of the reasons I became a prospers, 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.400 which is was born out of a feeling that you know, 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.439 you have to right certain wrongs and address certain injustices 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:12.079 and protect people who are vulnerable and deserve the autonomy 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:16.000 of their bodies and their life. Vice President Harris has 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.080 never backed down from a fight, something she said she 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:23.080 learned from her mother. My mother had two goals in 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:27.520 her life to raise her two daughters and to end 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:32.200 breast cancer. So she was a breast cancer researcher, and 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.319 you know, one of the few women as a scientist, 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.520 and the few women of color. And my mother was 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:45.520 always fighting for the right for women to have dignity 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:49.720 in the healthcare system. But she really she saw so 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:53.320 much that was about the disparity in terms of the 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:57.720 treatment of women, taking them seriously, giving them dignity through 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:02.800 the process. So from my earlier stages of growth and development, 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.200 I was aware of this issue and cared about it. 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.640 And then you know, through my career as a prosecutor, 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.400 the vast amount of my work and priority was on 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:17.520 crimes against women and children and so and then the 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:21.840 Dobbs decision came down. The Supreme Court has reached a 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.920 decision on the landmark Roe v. Wade case. The ruling 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.840 is on a case called Dobbs versus Jackson Women's Health Organization. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:35.160 It's Mississippi and hyperbole suggests a very solemn moment. Today, 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.840 the Supreme Court of the United States expressly took away 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:44.400 a constitution right from the American people that had already recognized. 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:50.000 They didn't limit it, they simply took it away. And 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:54.160 I was actually traveling out of side of DC, and 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.040 as as soon as it came down, I actually called 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.120 my husband and I just I was in an absolute 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.160 you know, I knew it was going to come because 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:05.200 of the leaked decision, but it was still unimaginable that 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:10.000 it actually happened. You know that the highest court in 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:16.720 our land, the United States Supreme Court, took a constitutional 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:21.679 right that had been recognized from the people of America, 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.680 from the women of America. So much about the progress 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.280 of our nation when we have tracked it has been 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:35.240 measured by the expansion of rights, and now we are 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:43.080 saying an intentional restriction of rights. What is that saying 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:49.000 about the trajectory and the direction of our country. There's 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:53.440 so much at stake with this seemingly one issue that 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:57.719 actually is chock full of issues that should concern us. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.840 My girls are and four, and I think about them. 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.920 They were my thought when the Dobs decision came out, 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.760 and I think about the fact that they're growing up 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.960 with fewer rights than what I had with fewer rights 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:16.640 than their grandmother had. What connects you to bring you 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:20.920 into this fight? Well, like you, our twenty three year 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.920 old daughter will have fewer rights than my eighty one 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.120 year old mother in law, and they're both acutely aware 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:32.040 of it. I understand why it is important when we 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.240 are looking at this issue because you see where the 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:42.480 state has laws that can protect individual rights. We would 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:47.600 want and hope as patriotic Americans that the person who 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:51.000 has the power to enforce those rights and protect those 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:57.200 rights will value and appreciate their responsibility. In states where 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:01.679 they're criminalizing healthcare providers, don't doctors, nurses. Health care providers 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.720 are being criminalized with laws that are being proposed and 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:09.360 passed that would literally put a healthcare provider in jail. 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:17.760 On this issue, what is going on? So who is 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.120 in Congress to your point of federal, state, and local 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.920 really matters. We have to look at it in terms 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:26.600 of what are we doing to and so this is 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:28.679 part of how we've been addressing it, is to ddress 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:32.600 it in terms of really deconstructing the issue. We have 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:36.720 to recognize how much is at stake for everyone in 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:42.480 our country. I read the decision including Clarence Thomas's words, 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:47.439 Clarence Thomas said the quiet part out loud. He literally said, 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:53.800 this opens up the next steps, which are to re examine, 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.880 which means question, which means attack as far as I'm concerned, 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:00.880 the right to contraception and the right to marry the 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:06.600 person you love. So let's bring everybody together though, because 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:10.680 we are picking up there was a movement that started 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.640 that culminated in Roe v. Wade, like you were saying, 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.280 you know, when you're talking about and we can talk 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:21.000 about our family members, our mothers, grandmothers. It is now 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:25.120 our responsibility, all of us to pick that movement up 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.120 and to take it to the next step. This rally 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:33.640 in Denver, Loverbody, this one in Louisville, just a few 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:37.560 of many demonstrations happening across the US, with more planned 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:41.080 over the weekend. Abortion whites, some with very personal reasons 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.360 for showing up. And I know that there's will effect 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.640 work in class black women and people more than anybody else. 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.040 You know, you mentioned what's at stake. There's so much 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.280 at stake. We've talked about a lot of it here 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.440 and a lot of the issues that are coming up, 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:58.160 like it's not it's we're seeing them in a lot 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:02.000 of the same places. So what are you seeing from 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:07.800 your perspective? 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You know the three circles. 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.240 I love vendiagrams. I just like, just throw it into 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.080 a Venn diagraph. I will tell you everything you need 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.679 to know about any issue, especially where there is you know, 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.800 you're trying to understand the intersection and the connections, right, 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.960 So I asked my team to prepare a ven diagram 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:14.760 for me and the challenge I gave them is tell 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.920 me from which states we are seeing an attack on 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:22.240 women's reproductive health, from which states are we seeing an 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.879 attack on voting rights, and from which states are we 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:31.000 seeing an attack on LGBTQ rights. The three circles of 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.399 the ven diagram showed a significant overlap of the states 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:38.439 where all three restrictions of rights were happening, and this 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:43.719 moment also became somewhat of a viral sensation. What that 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:48.240 also tells us is there is an incredible opportunity for 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:53.679 coalition building, right for bringing in all the folks that 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:59.520 have been fighting for reproductive health rights and maternal health rights, 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.040 all the folks who've been fighting for voting rights, all 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:06.000 the folks who've been fighting who successfully fought for marriage 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:07.800 and now we still have a lot of work to 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:09.760 do in terms of trans rights and everything else, but 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:14.560 bring everybody together. At what point did you think I 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.720 can make a bigger impact in a bigger stage When 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:20.600 I ran for DA one of the reasons I ran 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:25.240 was because the incumbent hadn't and there should have been 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:29.119 a whole division set up to deal with child sexual assault. 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:33.760 There needed to be greater attention being given to the 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:38.360 issue of Domestic Violence. Vice President. Harris was born as 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.680 the daughter of an interracial couple in the sixties. Her mother, 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.800 who was an accomplished breast cancer researcher, had met her 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:48.960 father through the civil rights movement, so basically action was 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:52.760 in her blood. So it was kind of the same idea, 0:20:52.840 --> 0:21:00.879 which is, okay, well, I'll do it right, and I 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:05.200 mentor a lot of people because when I ran, there 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.800 had never been a woman. This is San Francisco, California, 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:09.639 with all of the reputation it has, there'd never been 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:11.800 a woman. There had never been a person of color. 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.440 When I was elected DA of San Francisco, I was 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:17.800 the first black woman to ever have been elected any 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:23.840 DA of anywhere in the state of California. Thirty eight 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.680 year old Kamala Harris came out of nowhere and was 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.920 swept into office of San Francisco's District Attorney. And as 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.919 she did, she made history. She was the first woman 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.879 ever to be the city's top prosecutor, and she is 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:38.919 the first African American in such a job ever in 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:42.440 the state of California. Most important things don't come easy, 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:44.960 So it's not going to be a cake wak. There's 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:46.680 a lot of work to do, and so you can 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:48.560 imagine when I decided to run and I took on 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:53.320 an incumbent, the number of people that said to me, Oh, 0:21:53.760 --> 0:22:00.840 they're not ready for you. It's not your time. It's 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:07.840 going to be hard work for bride. And I didn't listen. 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.200 And with all of the people that I mentor, I 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:12.680 say them. I just had a group of students actually 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:14.840 yesterday that I was talking with and I said, look, 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:18.159 don't you ever hear no unless And then they were 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:19.679 a little younger, so I said, unless it comes from 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:24.480 your parents, but don't ever hear no that it can't 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:27.760 be done or no one like you did it. And 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:29.960 then I have this thing I say, you know, look 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:36.360 I eat no for breakfast. I have to admit one 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.720 of the many reasons I left my career in politics 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:42.520 was due to burnout. Not only were the hours unsustainable, 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:46.840 but the emotional weight felt heavy. It's something I know 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:50.560 that many of us experienced after twenty twenty, so I 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:54.919 wondered how she kept going through it all. The first 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:57.840 political thing I ever did was I was in college 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.400 during the March for Women's Lives and I went down. 0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:02.199 I was supposed to go down with my mother and 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:05.200 my grandmother. And as I was on the way down, 0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:06.800 we went to go pick up my grandmother and my 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.480 grand so we are literally passing it along, and my 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.240 grandmother said, oh, I've marched enough. It's your turn, right, 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:17.359 So you know. But there's also there's a quote that 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:20.720 all I paraphrase all the time, and I will do 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:26.240 that here from Kreta Scott King who famously said the 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.880 fight for civil rights, which is again, it's the fight 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:35.400 for justice and equality, freedom. The fight for civil rights 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:39.320 must be fought in one with each generation. And I 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:43.600 think there are two points to that. One is it 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:48.720 is the nature of it all that whatever gains we make, 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:53.160 they will not be permanent. So the second point then 0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:57.840 is therefore understanding it is the nature of it all, 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:06.399 do not be overwhelmed, do not be tired, Do not 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:08.920 throw up your hands when it's time to roll up 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:14.080 your sleeves. It's just the nature of it all. So 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:21.040 knowing that good, I'm up for a good fight, you know, Yes, 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:26.520 So I have to put on my magazine editor at 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:31.120 hat here and ask you how you must be exhausted, 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:33.600 Like how do you keep going? Do you have like 0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:36.480 a routine here? Like, what do you do. I work 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:39.679 out every morning, all right, no matter how much sleep 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.240 I get, I just have to. It's for me. It's mind, 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:43.879 body and spirit and just But it's not I mean, 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:47.520 just half an hour on the elliptical usually that's when 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:51.000 I catch the morning news. I love to cook when 0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:53.920 I have the opportunity and the time to cook, it's 0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:56.240 just so therapeutic. And you know, you got to work 0:24:56.240 --> 0:25:00.880 stuff out. You just chop, chop, chop, chop chop. Who 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:07.160 are you envisioning on that shopping board. As we began 0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:12.240 to wrap our interview, it was important to bring in hope. 0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:19.520 Well gives me hope? Is our willingness to fight for 0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:22.119 this country that we love. That gives me hope. And 0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.120 I'm going to tell you why there is so much 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:27.320 about this issue again, all of the layers to this issue. 0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:31.080 That the fact that this is about as much as anything, 0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:35.120 our democracy and the state of our democracy. And I 0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:39.240 think that I think of democracy as being there are 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.600 like two sides to it. There's a duality to it. 0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:46.600 On the one hand, when the principles upon which our 0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:56.680 democracy was founded, freedom, liberty, justice. When a democracy is intact, 0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:02.840 it is extraordinarily strong and the power it gives the people. 0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:09.199 The duality is that, on the other hand, it is 0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:16.520 extremely fragile, this democracy. It is only as strong as 0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:23.320 our willingness to fight for it. What gives me hope 0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.240 is I know we are prepared to fight for it. 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:35.680 That gives me hope. We're not gonna let it go, 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.800 Madam Vice President, Madam Lieutenant Governor. This has been i'd say, 0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:44.880 my favorite live episode of she pivots. Thank you so much, 0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.080 and thank you for having us. Thank you all, Thank you. 0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:57.200 Vice President Harris continues to work every day on behalf 0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:00.440 of the American people. She's made problems solving the through 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.639 line of her career, pivoting her spotlight back to the 0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:07.160 issues that matter to Americans over and over. From her 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:12.359 work advocating for women for the LGBTQ plus community, reducing 0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:17.600 black maternal mortality, gun violence, prevention, healthcare, and more. She's 0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:21.760 always led with action, and as she treads fearlessly into 0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:24.800 the unknown, she leaves behind a legacy that will lead 0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:28.280 to a better future for people like my daughters. I 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.400