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Speaker 1: people were losing their loved ones, and this guy was

425
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: just in office refusing to step down. And like there's

426
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: like a vacancy in CD for its scene during the

427
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: worst time possible. Um, So I think about stuff like that,

428
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: like and now there's always constituents having to fill in

429
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: the gaps and they're not getting paid to. Yeah. You

430
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: know what I really like about this podcast, or about

431
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: the way this story is told, is that it really

432
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: reveals how powerful council members are. And I don't think

433
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: that constituents or any like l a city resident, not

434
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: all realize how powerful and how much their weight is

435
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: valued behind certain top big So when you talk about

436
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: the city council, like all we start had to do

437
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: to stop a developer would be to like make a

438
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: phone call so that a family wouldn't get evicted, you know,

439
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: And it had a lot of weight. And I think

440
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: that because there's lots of reasons if folks don't necessarily

441
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: get involved civically. Um, it's filling in that gap for

442
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: maybe people that are like, Wow, I didn't realize my

443
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: city council person had that much power, like let me

444
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: attend a meeting or let me email with my city

445
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: council person. Who is my city council person? Right? And

446
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: so I really feel like it's also serving that need

447
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: for education, um, that maybe not all folks have. So

448
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: I think that's really powerful. So props on that aspect

449
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: of it. But you know, as a listener, I think

450
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: we're constantly plagued with this question, this ongoing question of

451
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: how can someone that's like me or like my family

452
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: sell out my community? Right? And so I'm curious if

453
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: we will see more of that or if we that

454
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: that question will be uncovered or answered throughout the series.

455
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: What can we expect? Well, verst of all, thank you. Yeah,

456
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you think that, you know, we're

457
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: filling in a need. I definitely I wish we all

458
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 1: had civic education courses and our high schools. I didn't

459
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: like that they could tell you like this is like

460
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 1: a city council member does, right, but not everyone gets that.

461
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: Um Like I didn't know what my city council member

462
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: did until a couple of years ago, and I'm still learning.

463
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: So anyways, uh yeah, I think it's kind of difficult

464
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: to know all these different positions and what they're doing.

465
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: But anyways, I think to your point of like how

466
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: can someone do this their own community, it's like really brazen, right,

467
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: like not only like okay, yeah, like you know your

468
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: Latino you're saying from the community have a similar experience.

469
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: But he really repped it, like he really like went

470
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: a little like he really ran with it, and it

471
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: was pretty I don't I thought it was really corny

472
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: looking back and going through all this stuff, but I'm

473
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: sure at the time people are like, wow, representation it up.

474
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: You feel like alone, you know, like there's like there's

475
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: like states in Mexico where they like Rep Hard and

476
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: I feel like one of them. Yeah, yeah, Ria Mariachi

477
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: and you know his family, guess and he's from there too.

478
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, so, how do you feel you know,

479
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: we because how do you feel about this? And he's like,

480
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. Insert Marian Carey meme. I don't know her.

481
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. But yeah, to your point about how

482
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: can this happen? Uh, not necessarily how can this happen?

483
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: But more so, like what can we expect from the

484
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: series because we're only on episode three, like us the listener, right,

485
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: we only have access to three episodes, So what can

486
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: we expect to hear without giving away too many of

487
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: the details and you know, so that we can anticipate

488
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: what's next. But can we expect some type of understanding

489
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: as to why this happened or how this could happen? Oh,

490
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna know a lot about how everything got set

491
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: into motion. You're gonna find out like how he even

492
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: got the power to do what he did because he

493
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: wasn't just a regular city council member. He was on

494
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: the plumb committee. So you're gonna find out and you're

495
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: also gonna find out how he got downtown through redistricting

496
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: and how that kind of you know, set him up.

497
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: And then I mean trigger warning, but you're going to

498
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: learn about, um, a sexual harassment case that happened that really,

499
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, we feel uh lad to his alleged corruption

500
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: like really opened the floodgates for this all. So really

501
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: learn about the mechanics of how it happened. We can

502
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: get into it more if you would like to. I

503
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: feel like the sexual harassment case is really important, um,

504
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: But also I think we're not going to be able

505
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: to get too much into like if there was like

506
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: a turning point into his head, we weren't able to

507
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: interview him. Also, I kind of don't care if he's

508
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: if we sat like woke up one day and was like,

509
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: you know what, I want to be corrupt. That's what

510
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do today. I'm just gonna be corrupt. I'm

511
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: gonna be a cryp politician, and that's what I'm gonna do.

512
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: Allegedly cryd politician. That's what I'm gonna do. Like we

513
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: don't know that, And honestly, I don't care because he

514
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: did what he allegedly did what he did um. But

515
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: at the same time, we do see that there was

516
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: a turning point where the alleged corruption started. So basically

517
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: it kind of started from this sexual harassment suit. So

518
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: he had the staffer. UM, I'm gonna give it away

519
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: a little bit, but it's okay. I think it's important. Uh.

520
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: So he had the staffer and he was harassing her.

521
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: The details were incredibly disturbing, and she sued him. Um,

522
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: he like he harassed her. He sickly was like calling

523
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: her a bunch. She called her mom. He was like

524
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: outside the door of her home at one point it

525
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: basically saying that he was going to ruin her chances

526
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: at being elected the community college board of trustees if

527
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: she didn't sleep with him. So she sued him, and

528
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: suddenly he needed like five thousand dollars really quick to

529
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: settle this suit privately because he wants to go away,

530
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: even tho it was already in the news. He wanted

531
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: to make it disappear really quietly. And who in l

532
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: A has five thousand dollars to spend? Developers, And that's

533
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: kind of what we think kick started. That's kind of

534
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: what we found that like seemed to kick start the

535
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: alleged corruption. So anyways, holy moly, Wow, I knew about

536
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: or allegation, but I did not know. I hadn't piece

537
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: that together. So that's that's really interesting that the sellout

538
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: is providing that that connection of all the dots, because yeah,

539
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: you heard it here, and it's like, of course, of

540
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: course he's being a fucking abuse and now he is

541
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: going to displace thousands of people to pay for his yes, yeah,

542
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: basically justifying l A because to pay for his well

543
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: to allegedly and ram through new developments to allegedly pay

544
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: for m to settle this out because he was he

545
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: was basically up for reelection and he was like, man,

546
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: I need to make this go away really quickly because

547
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: he didn't want to lose his election. I think, yeah.

548
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: I think I find really disturbing though, is that this

549
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: wasn't the news like you knew about it. Um. I

550
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: think everyone knew about it, but it disappeared quietly and

551
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: he was still elected. Like you can make the suit

552
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: go away with all you know, however much money, but

553
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: you can't erase that from the public consciousness, and people

554
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: still elected him, and people were in a lot of

555
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: folks are still I think still viewing him as like

556
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: a progressive kind of you know, politician, So I don't

557
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: know that part is a woman for me really didn't

558
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: kind of does disturb me in quite a bit. Yes,

559
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: I was going to say as a latina though, that

560
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me that it's like, oh, that's okay, you know,

561
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: we'll still vote for him. Yeah, it's it's it's I've

562
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: been watching impeachment right, um, And it's fascinating because I

563
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: forgot that when all of this was going down with

564
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, like we were children, Like

565
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: I was a child, but now as an adult, I'm like,

566
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: wait a second, So you're telling me that Bill Clinton,

567
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: there was like dozens of women that he was having

568
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: affairs with and scandals and there were lawsuits and they

569
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:46,959
Speaker 1: were investigations before Monica like openly you know. And this

570
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: is the sort of thing that it reminds me of,

571
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: like there's still this disposability around women and men in power.

572
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: They can do all kinds of horrible things and it's

573
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: permissible and forgive a bowl even chronically if the person

574
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: being harmed is like a woman, a woman on staff

575
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: in particular, and it just doesn't really seem to matter.

576
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: So like we hear it and we're like scandalized, and

577
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: that's awful, But it's it's amazing how so many other

578
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: people can hear about it and it's really not it's

579
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: not raising an eyebrow. Really, yeah, I think it doesn't

580
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: definitely echo that. I think it's like really disturbing, but

581
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily surprising. I think he kind of grew

582
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: up with like a oh, you know, like boys will

583
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: be boys, and I don't know, but it is really

584
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: disgusting because like the fact that he was able to

585
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: kind of still retain his image and the fact that

586
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: he basically still right on the street is that they

587
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: did have a consensual affair at one point, right, um, yeah,

588
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: that's a word on the street. So he used that

589
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: against her. He basically said, like, oh, I made a mistake.

590
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: I need I need to ask for give us for

591
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: my wife. It was a mistake, we had a consensual affair,

592
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: and basically using that to discredit her. And you know,

593
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: that's disgusting because like you know, even if if you're

594
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: being harassed allegedly harassed by your ex, um, if you're

595
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: being allegedly harassed by your ex if your ex shows

596
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: up at your house when you do not want them there,

597
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: if they are calling you repeatedly and they're trying to

598
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: get you to have sex essentially, um, and that's not

599
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: what you want. It's it's wrong. And you know, I

600
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: mean consent one oh one, it's ongoing. Right. You have

601
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: every right to withdraw your your yes, your consent. You

602
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: know this is basic. Um. But it also Yeah, it

603
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me that he would use there or anyone,

604
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: any abuser would use the fact that there was a

605
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: previous consensual relationship to prove to try to prove Oh no,

606
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: it's not possible that I was abusing you. Yeah, um yeah.

607
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: So I thought that was really I thought that was

608
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: really disturbing because he was like using their like whether

609
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: it's true or not, he was trying to use that

610
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: against her, just credit her and kind of manipulate it like, oh,

611
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: I made a mistake, instead of like I am abusing

612
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: my power and I'm trying to wield my power to

613
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: make you do what I want. So turning it into

614
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: like this emotional thing and turning it into like this

615
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: like using it to flip the narrative. And I thought

616
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: that was pretty heinous and he was married the whole time. Yes,

617
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: Like there's there's no positive way to slice it. For like,

618
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: he was married the whole time. So while he's harassing her,

619
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: while he's consensually engaging with her, still married. I mean

620
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: we're seeing that now, Like I mean in the Mark

621
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: really Thomas case, you know, he got in trouble recently

622
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: or he was you know, it was a whole indictment

623
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: um for like corruption with USC, and he was not

624
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: the person that allegedly harassed somebody. It was actually his son.

625
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: But he wanted to protect his son. So he was like,

626
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: how am I going to protect my son and ensure

627
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: that my son can keep his you know, uh, you

628
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: know financially finances. Okay, So basically he set up this

629
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: whole deal with USC. They were like, you know what,

630
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: let's have him be a student at USC but also

631
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: be faculty at USC. So there was like uh and

632
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: then there was like a government uh and to tease involved,

633
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: it was like two big ones that are involved. Uh.

634
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: So it's, as my editor Karna say Lewis says, sexual

635
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: harassment is often the smoky leads to the fire. Um.

636
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Speaker 1: You know, we can be like, oh, my god, scandalous,

637
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: but also like there are constituents that are being involved.

638
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: If this guy who was actually harassing people, he's a

639
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: faculty member at USC. There are a lot of young

640
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: girls to go to USC. I don't want to be

641
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: my teacher, professor. I had no idea there was harassment

642
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: at the core of this. I thought it was just

643
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: pay for play to get him jobs and positions entitled,

644
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: but there is more. So yeah, Thomas, Yeah, try to

645
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: set up his son, allegedly leged set up his son

646
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: to have more, um, you know, just kind of secure future.

647
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: I suppose I've literally been on mute the whole time

648
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: because I was like screaming because I had no idea.

649
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: But I think, what's so sad, you know, for such

650
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: a wonderful city like l A, with like such a

651
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: rich community, is that this is also not uncommon. We

652
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: have we saw we have Margaret Ley Thomas, and then

653
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: we also have the city of bell that had its

654
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: own corruption, the Manabella School District right that had its

655
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: own scandal, right and all. And it's the community that's affected. Um,

656
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: it's all these different lives that it touches. And so

657
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: while this is a very special story and that it's

658
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: like one particular district that you are that you're you

659
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: and your team are examining. It's also very much a

660
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: part of like being in a big city. There's like corruption,

661
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean in the just government anywhere, right at every level,

662
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: there's corruption. And while these fools are busy being corrupt,

663
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: our streets are riddled with potholes and they owe me

664
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 1: money for all the tires that I have literally popped.

665
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: Just driving in l A is like off roading sometimes,

666
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: and these fools, these fools are over here doing all

667
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: their bullshit. Can we get and can we get so

668
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: we get some problems? Please God? Like because I agree

669
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: with that hundred percent. Oh my god. You know, it's

670
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: kind of crazy, and it's really sad because now there's

671
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: all this lack of leadership, always gaps in leadership, and

672
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: they're getting paid all this money to like what what

673
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: are they doing? Uh? And then what happens The sad

674
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: part is what happens at the community members actually end

675
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: up having to fill in those gaps. So the tenants

676
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: unions have to go help people that are facing evictions.

677
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: There are people that are you know, making food pantries

678
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: and setting those up. You know, all these kinds of

679
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: things different like orcs, and these people are just don't

680
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: eating their time. And the problem is that we all

681
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: have really high rents to pay, and we all work

682
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: a lot. Well I don't like I'll work, but a

683
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: lot of us work a lot. So on top of

684
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: so just like all this extra stress and burden is

685
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: being put on our communities when you know that time

686
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: and money could be invested elsewhere. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah.

687
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: I think all this to say, like it is important

688
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: to like for us to remember. I think people get

689
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: really attached to their city council people and there's that

690
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: blind loyalty like we were talking about earlier that he

691
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: still we started, still got elected even with this public

692
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: harassment suit like out there, you know. And one of

693
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: the reasons why folks get re elected, re elected reelected,

694
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: they have the money and the resources behind them, and

695
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: I think that there are folks who go out and

696
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: campaign hardcore for them to like make sure that they

697
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: get re elected, right, And I just think it's important

698
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: for all of us to remember if your city councilperson

699
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: is not delivering, and your neighborhood is not getting the

700
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: resources and the attention that it needs, like, why do

701
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: we have blind loyalty, you know, to it to these

702
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: folks when clearly they are using the time and the

703
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: money and the power for things other than improving the

704
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: quality of life for constituents, which is what's supposed to

705
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: be happening. Yeah, I agree, I think honestly, I feel

706
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: like one of the most important people you could elect

707
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: to office and one of the most influence you have,

708
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: is really city council. If you don't like bottom ount.

709
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't say voting up people is like

710
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: the is like they answer to everything. It's not. But

711
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: you don't like it, you know, you can actually do

712
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: something about it. If you can show up the city council.

713
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: Your voice has a lot more weight in local politics,

714
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: even though in l A it's still kind of difficult.

715
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: You have more, much more weight in local politics than

716
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: you do nationally. So if you get bumped out by

717
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: national politics because it depresses me a lot, you can

718
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: just focus a little bit more on, you know, city

719
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: council because you have a lot more weight there and

720
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: you have a lot more power there. And in a

721
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: city like l A, the city council is big enough

722
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: and powerful enough that like, come on, look, no further.

723
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean this is not like Parks and rec like

724
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: these guys like, this is some real ship. So I

725
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: agree completely and I think we could all stand to

726
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: learn more about our city council. Yeah, it's an aud Yes,

727
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: so important. So finally, just to wrap up, thank you

728
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: Maria for all that you've shared with us today. On

729
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: a more technical side, I'm curious as a podcaster myself, UM,

730
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: tell us about finding your voice as a host. Is

731
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: this your first time hosting a podcast or what's the

732
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: background here? So background here is I used to to

733
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: the l a Taco podcast. Um. It was like really small,

734
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, cute, and we didn't have the resources to

735
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: keep it going, so we stopped it. Um. Unfortunately it's

736
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: a little bit podcasting as an intern before, um elsewhere. Yeah,

737
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: but the voice finding my voice, Yeah, my first time

738
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: hosting a big thing like this, that's for sure. But

739
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, I've moderated panels before, you know, I like

740
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: hosted things like other events. But it was really difficult,

741
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: I think, you know, finding your voice because I think

742
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, it takes a little bit of vulnerability to

743
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: be a good podcast host. You have to show who

744
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: you are a little bit I think and be a

745
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: little vulnerable, and I don't like doing that. I wanted

746
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: to just use my reporter voice. I wanted to sound

747
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: kind of a professional ish um and not professional. I

748
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: just use a different voice because if people don't like

749
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: that voice, at least it's not your real voice, you know.

750
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: Uh uh. But then uh, I showed my I was like,

751
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: you know what, I need to make sure I get

752
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: some non media latinos in here and making sure that

753
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm not making anything wack. So I brought in my cousin.

754
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: I brought in her husband, who was born and Raisin

755
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: bull Heights, and I showed them in an early scratch

756
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: tape and my cousin listened to it, and I was like,

757
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: so what do you think? And then she was like,

758
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: uh yeah, Mariah, yeah, you know, are you just trying

759
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: to go for the educated, like you know, demographic like you?

760
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: And I was like hey to that her. I was like,

761
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: she's like an older sister to me, and like I'm

762
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: wishing impressed her. So I was like out. I was

763
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: a little upset, and then I was like, you know what,

764
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: let me think about this. So I brought the feetback

765
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: back to my team and I was like, hey, guys,

766
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: my cousin says, uh, you know that it doesn't really

767
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: resonate with her the way we have it, and that

768
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: we should try maybe a different approach. Um, So I

769
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: need to work on my tracking. I need to make

770
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: it sound different. So my cousin was like, Mary, why

771
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: don't you just talk the way you talk to me

772
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: when we're hanging out and stuff. You don't have to

773
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: go all the way, but you know, just try to

774
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: sound more like sound with me when you're telling me

775
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: about a political process, when you're explaining the news to me.

776
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: We're at a bar and you're just like talking to me, Like,

777
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: can you just do it that way? She's like, people

778
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: will like it more if you do it the way

779
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: who you actually are. And I like, that's really scary

780
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: because I don't want to ever feel like I don't know,

781
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: I don't know how you all feel, but I kind

782
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: of feel like I have to be comfortable to let myself,

783
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: you know, be It's hard to be yourself when you're recording,

784
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: so it's hard to get comfortable. So I was like,

785
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: you know what, am I just act like Vanessa is

786
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: here and I'm just gonna try to do my best

787
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: So I told my producer we're in we're in her

788
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: shed recording together, and I was like, Carla, ah, okay,

789
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do is we're gonna pretend we're

790
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: at a bar. Bret the Nova Kane Bar was my

791
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: favorite bar. It's a Huntington Park. I love that place. Uh,

792
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: and uh, we're gonna I don't drink when I check

793
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: because I just want to focus. But I was like,

794
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna pretend we're having drinks and I'm just gonna

795
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: be talking to you as if I'm talking to my

796
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: cousin or whatever, and we're just gonna make it happen.

797
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, the first episode, I feel like it's probably

798
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: like my worst tracking, even though I think it still

799
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: sounds okay. But I got more comfortable with myself and

800
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: I got a lot of good feedback my other team.

801
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: I was working with the editors, like hey, we like

802
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: your voice, Hey, we like you want to use your

803
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: deeper voice. And it was the first time I felt like, oh,

804
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: I can use my deeper voice, Like that's cool, and

805
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: I just felt really affirming to me. So, yeah, just

806
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: trying to be myself, trying to be really unapologetic about it,

807
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: and you know, also just trying to bring a lot

808
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: of energy, like I want to show them a cool story.

809
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: I want them to feel like wow, like you're just

810
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: listening and you can laugh at some parts. You can

811
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: laugh at the incompetence. Oh yeah. The other thing that

812
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: I thought was really important was that someone pointed out

813
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: and said, like, I sound like I'm laughing a little bit,

814
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: as we said, like I'm not laughing, but sounds like

815
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm on the verge of laughing at the incompetence. And

816
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: that was actually a very uh, it was a very

817
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: intentional choice because men who are allegedly abusive hate it

818
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: when women laugh at them. So we're like, we're gonna

819
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: get some smiles and they we're gonna make us sound

820
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: like I'm about to laugh because men hate it, and

821
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: well then they're alleged labies have really hate it. So

822
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: I thought it could be kind of fun because I

823
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: know he obsessively checks his social media. I know he

824
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: obsessively checks who's talking about him, so I know he's

825
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: probably already heard the show, and I know because he

826
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: has a big court date coming up, he can't say anything,

827
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: So okay, I didn't say that part, but I know

828
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: he's probably listening to it, and I know that he

829
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 1: has like a hearing coming up soon, so he can't

830
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: really I think it would be in his best interest

831
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: to not respond or say anything yet. Um So I

832
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, hearing this woman just kind of

833
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: come out and like say, kind of like they're laughing

834
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't think he's gonna like that very much,

835
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: you know what. It kind of makes me a little happy.

836
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I of it also, Maria,

837
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 1: because in the podcast, you have this tagline that includes

838
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: this phrase path like pathological greatness, which I love because

839
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: I feel like what you're describing to me here is

840
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: like a very well orchestrated, well thought out like you're

841
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: trolling him a little bit, and I'm like, here for it.

842
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: It's hilarious. Well, it's so great to hear some you know,

843
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: backstory on your particular voice as a host for this

844
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: show and the intention behind it, and it definitely sounds authentic.

845
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: That's definitely one of the things that I liked listen.

846
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: When I was listening to it, it felt like somebody

847
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Speaker 1: that I would talk to or someone you know what

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