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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us? What went wrong? Joining

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Speaker 1: why did mom get a text from emergency services? Well?

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Speaker 1: best way to describe her is perfect. These are the

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Speaker 1: precious memories Merissa Colburn and Blake Brier will cherish forever.

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Speaker 1: Their beautiful baby girl, Harper Rose Briar had just started crawling,

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Speaker 1: holding her bottle on her own and got her first tooth.

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Speaker 1: Dad Blake was working in mom Marissa decided to go

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Speaker 1: back to school full time for social work at Castleton University,

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Speaker 1: but she spent three months vetting daycare providers to make

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Speaker 1: sure she chose the right one. She says it was

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Speaker 1: hard enough, dropping Harper off with another person counting down

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Speaker 1: the minutes until they were together again. And on only

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Speaker 1: the third day of daycare, Marissa was just leaving school

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Speaker 1: on her way to the daycare to pick Harper up

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Speaker 1: when she got the news. You were hearing baby Harper

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Speaker 1: Rose Brier from home videos. That's BTE MTV Samantha Di

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Speaker 1: Machio speaking to Harper's mom, Marissa Colburn, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: imagining the mom watching videos, looking at photos I saw

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Speaker 1: she has left of Harper. She left Harper at daycare

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Speaker 1: on day three, she gets a text from EMTs. There's

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Speaker 1: a problem. Troy Slayton, California defense attorney. How can you

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Speaker 1: with a straight face argue that this was an accident

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Speaker 1: or negligence when it's clearly an overdose of beIN a drill.

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Speaker 1: She didn't even know the baby had vomited all over

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Speaker 1: her baby blanket because she wasn't taking care of the children.

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Speaker 1: She would have known that a child can vomit and

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Speaker 1: not make a lot of noise. What we really need

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Speaker 1: to look at is all the surrounding circumstances. Doctor Moroney

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Speaker 1: laid it out well at as well as your crime

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Speaker 1: scene investigator, We need to look at what the other

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Speaker 1: children had as far as dosage of benadrill. If all

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Speaker 1: these kids have hair samples that show positive for benadrill,

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Speaker 1: then this daycare provider is finished. And I agree with

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Speaker 1: you that they should charge murder in that instance. But

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Speaker 1: if this is an isolated incident and she was just

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Speaker 1: dosing this child for a legitimate purpose, some sort of

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Speaker 1: allergic reaction, some sort of hives, something for which benadrill

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Speaker 1: obviously not in this dose, would be indicated, then I

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Speaker 1: think we don't have a case of murder or even manslaughter,

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Speaker 1: and I think that it should be something even less,

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Speaker 1: like some sort of gross criminal negligence. I'm sure you do,

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Speaker 1: Troice Light, And I am sure you do, Troice Light

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Speaker 1: and renowned California defense lawyer. And now you see why

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Speaker 1: you wins so many cases. It's like a snake charmer.

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Speaker 1: If you listen long enough, you start swaying along and

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Speaker 1: believing that. But sometimes you just have the facts in

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Speaker 1: the law on your side. M let's talk about the facts.

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Speaker 1: Doctor William Moroney, medical examiner, author of American Narcan on Amazon.

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Speaker 1: You can't argue with the level of diphan hyjamine in

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Speaker 1: this baby girls system. You can't argue with that she

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Speaker 1: did not the baby Harper did not drive to CVS

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Speaker 1: and buy the benadrill and down it out in her

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Speaker 1: car in the parking lot. Somebody gave it to her

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't the parents, it was the daycare provider,

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Speaker 1: Stacy Villancourt. What does the evidence tell you, doctor Moroney

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Speaker 1: about the level of benadrill in this child's system. The

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Speaker 1: other thing we have to consider, babies don't metabolize like adults,

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Speaker 1: so it built higher. What you have is whatever dose

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Speaker 1: she got might have been on the first day, might

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Speaker 1: have been on the second day. But we have evidence

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Speaker 1: from the patient, the client when the deceased went home,

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Speaker 1: the parents said this baby slept like way too long.

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Speaker 1: That's physical evidence. That's a story that benagrul was given

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Speaker 1: previous to the day that she died, in addition to

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Speaker 1: benadryl was given on the day she died. So you

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Speaker 1: have at least two days where benegrol's given back to

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Speaker 1: back in a baby with the acceptable level of benegrul

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Speaker 1: without physician supervision is zero. And you have the medical

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Speaker 1: examiner's death certificate saying homicide this is no accident. Well,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, when I don't get doctor Moroney, is

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Speaker 1: somewhere in that medical explanation I didn't get from you.

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Speaker 1: How much benajil you think the daycare woman Villancourt gave her?

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Speaker 1: Is that because you don't know if it's a build

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Speaker 1: up over the last two days. Well, how much benegel

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Speaker 1: do you think the child had in her system to

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Speaker 1: kill her? That she could have got infant benadrol and

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Speaker 1: would have been a high volume where she could have

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Speaker 1: got regular benadrol the low volume but a high concentration.

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Speaker 1: But the end result is to get to that six

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Speaker 1: hundred nanograms, that baby had to have between fifty and

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Speaker 1: one hundred milligrams, and those are adult doses that are

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Speaker 1: ten times the does to John Limley, Crime online dot

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Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter John Limley, how much did she have

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Speaker 1: in her system? I think you may know the answer

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Speaker 1: to that as well. Six hundred seventy nanograms per milli leader.

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Speaker 1: As I said before, the chief medical Examiner says, that's

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Speaker 1: about eight times the average blood concentration for a baby

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Speaker 1: of Harper's weight. What does that mean, Doctor Moroney? In

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Speaker 1: a nutshell and in regular people talk plays. Eight to

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Speaker 1: times the amount that was in her system means she

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Speaker 1: got ten times the amount that would have been a

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Speaker 1: normal dose under physician supervision, and the acceptable doses still

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Speaker 1: zero good gravy. Well, we know what the autopsy said, listen.

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Speaker 1: Defendants sedated he otherwise beautiful, happy, healthy six month old

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Speaker 1: to the point where that baby could not lift her

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Speaker 1: head and died. Bryer was pronounced dead while en round

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Speaker 1: to the Runtland Regional Medical Center. The State Police say

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Speaker 1: Valencourt was the infant's only caregiver leading up to her death,

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Speaker 1: and had been in her care for the two days prior.

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Speaker 1: The autopsy shows the infant died of difen hydramine intoxication.

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Speaker 1: Her death was ruled a homicide. The state is alleging

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Speaker 1: that the defendant acted criminally negligent and because of that action,

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Speaker 1: the child died. Harberbrier died, so state will be arguing

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Speaker 1: that she acted with a criminal negligent intent. Valencourt and

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Speaker 1: her attorney, Robert McCullen, declined to comment on the case.

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Speaker 1: Following today's court proceedings, she was released on a twenty

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Speaker 1: five thousand dollars security bond. She must not have contact

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Speaker 1: with any children under the age of five, with the

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Speaker 1: exception of her nine month old grandson. She will be

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Speaker 1: back in. We're hearing w v and YTV Spencer Colin

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Speaker 1: talking to the Rutland County States Attorney Rosemary Kennedy. And

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Speaker 1: just so you know, the state asked for a fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars bond and a judge reduced that in half

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Speaker 1: to a twenty five thousand dollar bond, which she put

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Speaker 1: up twenty five hundred dollars to get out. Clearly, to

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Speaker 1: some people, a baby's life means less than an adult's life.

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Speaker 1: Why would you let somebody out on a case like

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Speaker 1: this where you've got a dead child on twenty five

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars payment to John Limley Crime online dot Com

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Speaker 1: investigative reporter, I got a question, why did the EMTs

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Speaker 1: contact the mother via text? Why didn't the daycare owner,

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Speaker 1: Stacy Villancourt call her. Well, we've found that information out

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Speaker 1: from the police. Harper's mother told the investigators there that

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Speaker 1: Villancourt didn't have emergency contact information for her the mother

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Speaker 1: to fill out, because her printer was broken. Every Thing

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Speaker 1: is wrong with this scenario. I am researching a book

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Speaker 1: I'm working on Don't Be a Victim, And one of

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Speaker 1: the chapters that took the most time for me to

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Speaker 1: write is your child safe at daycare with babysitters at

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Speaker 1: play school. And one of the first things I've learned

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to do is to have all of the

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Speaker 1: contacts emergency contacts, poison control, mom's number, dad's number, other

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Speaker 1: contact number, everything about whatever drugs, medications the child is

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Speaker 1: supposed to have or not. Everything is supposed to be

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Speaker 1: filled out so at the drop of a hat you

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Speaker 1: can be contact. I mean, it's just insult to injury.

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Speaker 1: She didn't call mommy because she didn't have her number

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Speaker 1: because her printer was broken. Oh we wait as justice

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Speaker 1: unfolds for baby Harper. Nancy Grace crime story signing up

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Speaker 1: Goodbye Friend,