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Speaker 1: first your door final final preseason game. He was three
Speaker 1: or six fourteen yards forty one yards lost on five sacks.
Speaker 1: I know you watched this game as I did. I
Speaker 1: want to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 3: First.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, listen, George Sanders didn't play bad?
Speaker 4: Chat those that follow me on Twitter?
Speaker 5: Yeappy, that is he did.
Speaker 2: He didn't.
Speaker 4: He didn't play well. He didn't play well. He played bad.
Speaker 4: Obviously he stunk it up. But let me let me
Speaker 4: let me clarify.
Speaker 3: Why, officer insight.
Speaker 4: Let me give you a little insight, I said, So
Speaker 4: he comes in in the third quarter, at I correct,
Speaker 4: the third quarter?
Speaker 5: About them?
Speaker 4: Okay, boom, So the players that are playing in the
Speaker 4: third quarter, excuse me if I'm excuse me, if I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: You can do your homework. Will those players make the
Speaker 4: fifty three man roster?
Speaker 2: On?
Speaker 3: A lot of them?
Speaker 2: Will?
Speaker 3: A lot of them will not make much.
Speaker 4: Man rock exactly. So again, I'm off a quarterback competition.
Speaker 4: But if you're gonna put him in a situation that
Speaker 4: is not advantageous to him and competing at a high level.
Speaker 5: Boom, Let's give him a chance. Let's give him a
Speaker 5: chance with the play calling.
Speaker 4: You know you have an offensive line that isn't playing
Speaker 4: that well.
Speaker 5: So what do we do? Why not just play the
Speaker 5: short game so we can get the ball out of.
Speaker 4: His hands very fast to run a competent goddamn offense.
Speaker 4: Purposely running players that are ten, twelve, fifteen yard routes knowing,
Speaker 4: damn well, the goddamn offensive line is not going to
Speaker 4: be able to hold up is ridiculous.
Speaker 5: It's clear.
Speaker 4: I played football for a very long time. I played
Speaker 4: the NFL at a very high level for a very
Speaker 4: very long time. I understand in the situation like that,
Speaker 4: when it comes to the threes and four that you're
Speaker 4: playing with that aren't going to be that aren't going
Speaker 4: to be on the squad and not going to make
Speaker 4: the team, give your quarterback a chance. Okay, you know what,
Speaker 4: you know they can't hold up that long. Let's play
Speaker 4: quick game. Let's play quick game just to get your
Speaker 4: door in a goddamn rhythm. But no, you come out
Speaker 4: calling regular office and plays that are very long. Damn
Speaker 4: their play action, damn near play action. If he was
Speaker 4: under center knowing they'd take a while to develop. Knowing good,
Speaker 4: goddamn well, the whole line and the people you have
Speaker 4: out there right now, we're not gonna be able to.
Speaker 5: Hold up outside of that.
Speaker 4: She Door has to be better in understanding that the
Speaker 4: office line that you're working with right now is not adequate.
Speaker 4: Get the ball out your hands, Get the ball out
Speaker 4: of hand. But he's holding the ball for one reason.
Speaker 4: He's holding the ball because the goddamn players aren't open.
Speaker 4: He's waiting for things to develop, which is why he's
Speaker 4: holding the ball and trying to make something happen by
Speaker 4: holding on to it, by scrambling, moving, obviously, running out
Speaker 4: an area, running out of real estate, and being sacked.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what game you guys are watching again,
Speaker 4: I stayed. Sure did play bad, he did, But why
Speaker 4: he played bad is clear as day if you understand
Speaker 4: the game of football and what he had to work with.
Speaker 5: Kevin Sefanski.
Speaker 4: Not let your door come back in the game to
Speaker 4: finish the two minute drill. Oh, I've never seen that before.
Speaker 4: I've never, never, in my life ever have seen anything
Speaker 4: like that before.
Speaker 5: What are we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 4: No disrespect to Snoop Huntley, Snooping probably not going to
Speaker 4: be on the team.
Speaker 5: He's probably not going to be on the team, So
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what you were waiting to.
Speaker 4: Look Snoop was on the team simply because quarterbacks were injured,
Speaker 4: so they brought into extra body. I not allowed the
Speaker 4: players that are competing for a job in this instance.
Speaker 4: She door Sanders to finish off the two minute drill.
Speaker 5: Agree, what are we doing? Who makes that call? He
Speaker 5: makes that call?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 4: Because I want the last thing people to see. I
Speaker 4: want the last people, the last thing for people to
Speaker 4: remember is the mistakes in the sacks that happen, and
Speaker 4: not give him a chance to redeem himself because I
Speaker 4: think probably what would have happened. Okay, we can't have
Speaker 4: to do it. Come in here and finish this two
Speaker 4: minute drive and go down and get a touchdown. We
Speaker 4: don't want that, so we're gonna leave him on the sideline.
Speaker 4: So these are bad taste in those mouths. So now
Speaker 4: there's nothing that they can say. There's nothing that they
Speaker 4: can say because now you've got a small sam size
Speaker 4: of him playing with people that are probably not going
Speaker 4: to be on the team, and they're by on Twitter
Speaker 4: and gonna say former.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: Come on, man, but okay, I can't wait to hear
Speaker 4: your peace and chat. For those of you who are
Speaker 4: listening to watch it, I'm not making an excuses for him.
Speaker 5: He played bad.
Speaker 4: He played bad, But I can tell you why you
Speaker 4: play bad. I mean, if you know the game of
Speaker 4: football and not understanding the game of football, understand that
Speaker 4: those that are in there with him during that time,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be able to tea.
Speaker 5: Don't go ahead, man, I.
Speaker 1: Agree with everything you say. He did play bad, and
Speaker 1: you and I we come out here and we're on.
Speaker 1: We talked four or five nights a week, sometimes six
Speaker 1: nights a week. We've gone six straight nights. We've gone
Speaker 1: nine straight days before. And what we do we tell
Speaker 1: it like it is. TI is like my grandma say, boy,
Speaker 1: tell it like it tis is. We tell it like
Speaker 1: it is. Shudor did not play well today. He played awful.
Speaker 1: Everything that you said is true, Shaudoor. You know this
Speaker 1: offensive line is not competent enough to give you a protection.
Speaker 1: And I understand it, says, oh cho, I'm in competition.
Speaker 1: I saw what Dylan Gabriel did with the guys that's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be on the team. I'm trying to match that,
Speaker 1: but what happened is is that they didn't give him
Speaker 1: the necessary pieces in order to match this. If you
Speaker 1: want me to fight, if you want me to win
Speaker 1: a war, give me the weapons. You can't expect me
Speaker 1: to win a modern war with muskets and cannons. They
Speaker 1: used drones. Now they used stuff with precision point accuracy.
Speaker 1: So you're expecting me to win a modern game, and
Speaker 1: you're giving me old time. That won't work. So Shador
Speaker 1: has to do a better job of getting the ball
Speaker 1: out of his hands. Oh Joe, he had some time.
Speaker 1: It's okay, coach, Hey, that ain't my game. That's Lamar Jackson's.
Speaker 1: That's a Josh Allen, that's Jalen Hurts. That's their game,
Speaker 1: buying time like that. Shaduur has in a pocket. He
Speaker 1: can move side to side, but he doesn't have that ability,
Speaker 1: that escapability like these other quarterbacks, like I put, like
Speaker 1: the bour mentioned I mentioned.
Speaker 3: I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Why you would let Snoop Huntley take the two minute
Speaker 1: unless he's gonna be one of the four quarterbacks that's
Speaker 1: gonna be on your roster. You give that to Shador.
Speaker 1: I agree with what you said, because you said, look,
Speaker 1: we've seen guys play bad beat great in the two
Speaker 1: minute drill, and you forget they played bad the entirety
Speaker 1: of the game. I don't know what's inside Kevin stefanski head.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's like, hey, I wanted to knew you know
Speaker 1: we're gonna probably we're gonna end up releasing him, and
Speaker 1: you know we wanted him to go. Look Snoop Hunt
Speaker 1: has been in the league for five years. He started
Speaker 1: several games for the Ravens when Lamar Jackson would hurt.
Speaker 3: Hell, he started a pre a postseason game.
Speaker 1: So this notion that you doing him some type of
Speaker 1: favor when the man who's been in the league four
Speaker 1: or five years, he started six seven games in his career,
Speaker 1: he started a postseason game.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just just disingenuous.
Speaker 1: With all that being said, I agree, the offensive line
Speaker 1: wasn't very good. And the one thing that a coach
Speaker 1: used to always tell me, he say, Son, don't make
Speaker 1: a bad play worse you see your offensive line break
Speaker 1: down your door. Don't make a bad play worse. Don't
Speaker 1: run around and lose five, don't lose ten. He got
Speaker 1: sacked five, he got sacked five times, lost forty one yards,
Speaker 1: fumbled the ball. Come on, you gotta be better than that.
Speaker 1: And I understand when you and competition, O Joe, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to compete, So I'm gonna scratch claw and do
Speaker 1: whatever I think is necessary. That's gonna help me, put
Speaker 1: me in an advantageous situation so I can.
Speaker 3: Compete, so I can win. But I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get what they did, why they did it.
Speaker 1: Some things is not for. Some things it is all
Speaker 1: for without explanation. Some things you and I can't explain,
Speaker 1: even though with the thirty with the thirty plus years
Speaker 1: between us of NFL experience and a number.
Speaker 3: Of Pro Bowls and All pros, both.
Speaker 1: Of us are in our team's respective ring of things.
Speaker 1: Some things we just can't answer because we as not in.
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski says, we don't here it is, O Joe,
Speaker 1: here's Kevin Stefanski not letting you do a run the
Speaker 1: two mini drill at the end of the Gray at
Speaker 1: the end of the game with the Browns.
Speaker 3: Let's take a list of what he had to say.
Speaker 4: Kevin, it was obviously a bit of a rough second
Speaker 4: half fording the brown entire Prince offense, Like, why didn't
Speaker 4: you keep doing for you meet you?
Speaker 5: Why'd you deign to tell.
Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously we didn't play great as an offense in
Speaker 6: the second half. That's that's never on one person. Uh,
Speaker 6: so we can be and we can be better in
Speaker 6: a bunch of areas. And just felt like we wanted
Speaker 6: to give Snoop a last draft.
Speaker 3: Did uh shouldn't have something along with them after the game?
Speaker 2: Kind of training to do that. Yeah, he's good.
Speaker 5: Walked up to you after taking you just walk down
Speaker 5: to the palne and then he walked.
Speaker 2: Back up to you on the sidelines before before Snoop
Speaker 2: went in and he said something to do to you.
Speaker 5: You shook your head. I mean, is he trained to
Speaker 5: get that? He's a competitive kid.
Speaker 6: But the plan was to go with Snoop there, so uh,
Speaker 6: but I wouldn't make any more of it than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, coach, let me get this, let me get
Speaker 1: this last one, give me an opportunity.
Speaker 3: Now we're good. We're going to take a.
Speaker 4: Look at they know what they're doing. They know what
Speaker 4: they're doing. Listen a blad man and see that. A
Speaker 4: blad man can see that. Again for those in the chat,
Speaker 4: I listen I'm not taking it fur I'm gonna say
Speaker 4: it again, and I reiterated, shaduor Sanders played bad based
Speaker 4: on the circumstances in the situation he was put in,
Speaker 4: and the weapons around him, and the offensive line that
Speaker 4: he had to deal with that probably won't be on
Speaker 4: the fifty three man roster. That's exactly what you would
Speaker 4: look like. You could have put Tom Brady out there
Speaker 4: with that offensive line. He would have look the exact
Speaker 4: same way. You could put Patrick Mahomes out there for
Speaker 4: that offensive line in that third quarter in the second half,
Speaker 4: he would have looked the exact same way. Kevin Stefanski saying,
Speaker 4: we didn't play well in the second half, Well, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean obviously.
Speaker 1: You didn't call plays well in the second half. This
Speaker 1: is what Derek Carr had to say. I need to
Speaker 1: understand why why we don't get to see Shaduo run
Speaker 1: this too?
Speaker 2: Minu Adrill.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you want to see your young quarterback operating this
Speaker 1: situation get him more reps for the future. I didn't
Speaker 1: see the whole game, so maybe he already showed enough.
Speaker 1: Help me understand this, Jerome aiden Rupp, So Kevin Stefanski
Speaker 1: give Dylan Gabriel easy short throws with max protection and
Speaker 1: then give Shador Bullge eye plays with an old line
Speaker 1: that looked like they just ate a gang of little debbies.
Speaker 3: F you Browns trade.
Speaker 4: Did you hear the keyword when I one of that?
Speaker 4: As soon as I stated that he played well and
Speaker 4: the first thing I said, what you just read. He
Speaker 4: gave Dylan Gabriel short throws to get himself in rhythm,
Speaker 4: to get the ball out of his hands. And then
Speaker 4: in the second half, the play calls were much longer,
Speaker 4: routes that took time to develop, and they know good
Speaker 4: and well that the officers line wouldn't be able to
Speaker 4: hold up the only reason a quarterback holds onto the ball.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's covered sacks. Sometimes it's waiting for receivers to
Speaker 4: get downfield for route to develop, and they know good
Speaker 4: and well, like you know, good and well, it wasn't
Speaker 4: gonna work. You have an NFL quarterback, an experienced quarterback
Speaker 4: that's pointing.
Speaker 5: It out exactly what I said. I didn't even know.
Speaker 5: I didn't even know.
Speaker 4: Derek Carr tweeted that I didn't even know. But I'm
Speaker 4: just sitting here watching. I'm like, like.
Speaker 5: What are we doing.
Speaker 4: What are we doing as a as a coach, as
Speaker 4: a head coach, as a coaching staff. I mean, if
Speaker 4: it's a quarterback competition, put the players in advantageous situations.
Speaker 5: And give them a chance to succeed. It's simple.
Speaker 4: It's something like you would do on Sunday when Joe
Speaker 4: Flacco goes out there Week one against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4: They're going to put him in positions to succeed every quarter,
Speaker 4: every down. It's just the way the game is played.
Speaker 4: You play to win the game. I mean, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I don't under stand, Mike Heill, Mike Hill, I hope
Speaker 1: your Door will eventually end up on a good roster
Speaker 1: with a coach who wants and believes in him.
Speaker 3: Is so obvious.
Speaker 1: This league and even the rounds in a sense, have
Speaker 1: been trying to send a message to him since he
Speaker 1: since the draft, and it's downright disgusting. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I co sign, I agree with everything that you said.
Speaker 1: The play was not adequate enough and your Door has
Speaker 1: to get to a point in time, and that's always
Speaker 1: been his knock. We said this when he was in college.
Speaker 1: He holds onto the ball too long, you're not going
Speaker 1: to make every play. The sooner he gets that in
Speaker 1: his head, the sooner he comes to that realization, the
Speaker 1: better off he's gonna beat. Do not make a bad
Speaker 1: play worse, O Jo. If you the worst thing you
Speaker 1: could do, O Joe. If I run, if I run
Speaker 1: the wrong route is dropped the ball when you throw
Speaker 1: it to me, Damn Son, At least you can do
Speaker 1: is catch it. You look at up to play. You're someplace.
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to beat.
Speaker 3: Son.
Speaker 1: If you, if you, if you, if you jump off
Speaker 1: side something, just go just go ahead. Maybe they missed it,
Speaker 1: But don't make a bad play worse and you block
Speaker 1: the wrong guy and then you end up holding what
Speaker 1: damn son, your door. Just feed your process up. Yes,
Speaker 1: the offensive line wasn't adequate. Yes, the receivers. Give him
Speaker 1: the plays that you gave against Carolina. Let him get
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands, let him let let
Speaker 1: In a situation like that, you let the You let.
Speaker 3: The offense, you let the receivers help you.
Speaker 1: You put the ball in their hands and says, okay, son,
Speaker 1: go get full five yards out of the catch, as
Speaker 1: opposed to take the five step drop and trying to
Speaker 1: push the ball down the field. That is my my
Speaker 1: synopsis of what I saw. Hopefully, now, oh Joe, hopefully
Speaker 1: preseasons is over. We can stop having these conversations. Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco is the starting quarterback. Now, we need to stop
Speaker 1: asking these questions. When are we gonna social door, because
Speaker 1: you're not gonna see Joe Flacco something happens to him.
Speaker 1: If they keep full quarterbacks, it's gonna be Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1: It's gonna probably be I don't know. Hell, the way it.
Speaker 3: Looks look like Dylan Gabriel might be too. Now can pick.
Speaker 5: It might be three and you know, you know what?
Speaker 4: Also what also I'm not saying it scares me, but
Speaker 4: it worries me if they've already made a decision, if
Speaker 4: their mind is already made up as an organization, as
Speaker 4: a head coach has them coming out and saying what
Speaker 4: he said two weeks ago about the pick not being his,
Speaker 4: and Andrew Berry standing by his side and standing by
Speaker 4: his pick, and for Andrew Berry to have to witness
Speaker 4: what he saw today, someone that is very intelligent, very intelligent,
Speaker 4: to be in a position of power that he's in
Speaker 4: and to witness what he witness today I'm thinking also,
Speaker 4: if the decision has already been made to release your
Speaker 4: door or to cut him in any way, shape, form
Speaker 4: or fashion. What scares me is is him going to
Speaker 4: another team and will team be willing to be able
Speaker 4: to deal with someone with the last name Sanders? That
Speaker 4: brings a kind of tension to a team that he
Speaker 4: does and he's not even the starting quarterback. You understand
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because that I do that brings a
Speaker 4: totally different dynamic to a team where it takes away
Speaker 4: from whoever the whoever the quarterback is being should do
Speaker 4: it now? Coming in and being on that team, you get,
Speaker 4: I'm going with it now. It's I do that he
Speaker 4: didn't create, but it just comes with the Sanders last name.
Speaker 1: In general, that's a lot of oxygen being taken up
Speaker 1: out of the room for a guy that's not playing.
Speaker 3: That's what you said.
Speaker 1: The Browns general manager Andrew Berry told the NFL Network
Speaker 1: keeping four quarterbacks not much of a decision. We have
Speaker 1: a room that we like and all the guys in there.
Speaker 1: We don't really see that as a problem. We more
Speaker 1: see it as an opportunity. O Jo, My thing is
Speaker 1: why you're keeping four quarterbacks when clearly one of the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks you don't actually believe in.
Speaker 4: I know, I know Andrew Berry and mister Hassim, I
Speaker 4: know they be going at it boy, because it's.
Speaker 1: Not like their sentimentality. Sometimes, Ojo, we hold on the
Speaker 1: things that have sentimental value towards oh Man, oh Cho.
Speaker 3: I had this thing so long, I just can't let
Speaker 3: to go, you know.
Speaker 1: But but when there's no sentimentality to it, there's no
Speaker 1: attachment to it. You just drafted the guy. You drafted
Speaker 1: a guy in the fifth round. Why are you holding
Speaker 1: on to it? If you believe he was that good,
Speaker 1: you would have given him a better opportunity to show
Speaker 1: you what he can do. From what I could deduce
Speaker 1: and from what I read, I've never seen I've never
Speaker 1: read anything or saw anything that Shador Sanders took reps
Speaker 1: with the ones or the twos, except when Gabriel got
Speaker 1: hurt and then he took that they were playing that Friday,
Speaker 1: and he took rep.
Speaker 3: To that Wednesday and Thursday. Other than that, excuse me.
Speaker 1: Prior to that, there was not a situation where I
Speaker 1: read what Mary Kay Cavin was writing and I read
Speaker 1: what others had written that I saw that Shador Sanders
Speaker 1: had taken rep with the ones and tunes. So if
Speaker 1: he's not taking one and two, and you would think
Speaker 1: after what he did in the Carolina game, that's normally
Speaker 1: what happens.
Speaker 2: Chat.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what normally happens. When a guy, if
Speaker 1: he's down on the depth chart and he plays good
Speaker 1: in a preseason game, they normally come in and that
Speaker 1: practice back he's like, I want to see what the
Speaker 1: guy can do with the ones and the twos, no
Speaker 1: matter the position, be a quarterback, running back, wide receiver,
Speaker 1: old line, d line, linebacker, cornerback. I'm telling you that's
Speaker 1: normally how it works. You're talking to a guy that
Speaker 1: was in a very similar situation, and y'all said, what, Joe,
Speaker 1: you always inserted yourself. I'm inserting myself because I'm telling
Speaker 1: you I was in a situation like Shader. He was
Speaker 1: a fifth rounder. I was a seventh rider. I was
Speaker 1: like six or seventh on the depth chart. So I
Speaker 1: played good in the preseason game or shoe guess what next?
Speaker 3: Thing?
Speaker 1: I know, Hey, at the time, I was eighty one sharp,
Speaker 1: cool with the backup quarterback. And you call me greasy,
Speaker 1: say greasy? They put you with the ones and the
Speaker 1: twoes today. So, hey, make sure you're ready. You need
Speaker 1: to know anything, ask me. I don't know why, but
Speaker 1: seven and Cool always took a liking to me. They
Speaker 1: always took a liking to me.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: We come into the game and practice, Ojoe, he was like, greasy,
Speaker 1: you know what you got? I said, nah, not really.
Speaker 1: He said, you got X welha blah blah blah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you like this, he said, greasy. Look, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be covered too. Take the whole greasy, it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be with single high safety, run to seven.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be this. Hook it up, fifteen yards, hook
Speaker 1: it up, show me a letters. I'm gonna get you
Speaker 1: the ball. Hey, let's go, let's say, let's go make
Speaker 1: some money today, He's all. He was always like that
Speaker 1: in my ear. So it gave me confidence that damn
Speaker 1: this man, he don't Hey, I'm a rookie and he
Speaker 1: helping me. He's working with me. Hey, seven with the
Speaker 1: exact same way. But once I played good in the
Speaker 1: game with him, guess what now? I come back on Monday,
Speaker 1: o Joe, I'm went the twos at I didn't get
Speaker 1: into the boyd quarter because they want to see what
Speaker 1: you can do with the starters. Okay, if he did
Speaker 1: this with some backup, let's see if we put it
Speaker 1: with the number the one and two's, let's see if
Speaker 1: he can do that again. Maybe it was because he's
Speaker 1: going against guys that's not going to be there, but
Speaker 1: let's see if he can compete against guys that we
Speaker 1: know are going to be there on Sunday. So this
Speaker 1: is a very similar situation with your door. I would
Speaker 1: have thought you would have thought, because we had this conversation,
Speaker 1: Oh cho, he gonna get so.
Speaker 4: Sure, So we thought based on our experience and what
Speaker 4: happens when you play well.
Speaker 5: But listen, excited that Joe Flacco, that would look good.
Speaker 5: He looked good. Dyli and Gabel came in. God damn Dylan.
Speaker 4: Gabel looked good, very efficient passes coming out, everything sharp,
Speaker 4: went down, touchdown.
Speaker 5: And then you know, obviously twelve didn't play good today.
Speaker 5: He didn't.
Speaker 4: And I've said it over and over for those in
Speaker 4: the chat. I know we have our shador haters who
Speaker 4: do who don't, who don't like him. He didn't play well,
Speaker 4: can you hear me? But in most of most of
Speaker 4: the littles that aren't hating Touk, they don't.
Speaker 3: They don't.
Speaker 4: They don't watch football. They don't understand football. They don't
Speaker 4: want to understand the ends of announcing.
Speaker 1: The intricacies of football. They don't that you understand that
Speaker 1: played the game. Understand the new Ones.
Speaker 5: Says, we see it, we see it clear as day.
Speaker 5: But they just on it.
Speaker 4: Oh he played bad, he's asked, he sucked. He's the
Speaker 4: fifth rounder. He's not that good. Well, of course, yes,
Speaker 4: based on what you saw today. But I'm we're trying
Speaker 4: to tell you why it looked that way. But that's
Speaker 4: neither here nor there. It is what it is. They
Speaker 4: made the decision. They have to lie in the bed
Speaker 4: with it, so listen. I'm happy for him.
Speaker 3: This is why I watched the game with no sound.
Speaker 1: I don't want someone to contaminate my mind and I
Speaker 1: regurgitate what somebody else said. Also the reason why I watch.
Speaker 1: Fans are only interested in the end results. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to figure out why we got said result. It's not
Speaker 1: good enough that they scored a touchdown. I need to
Speaker 1: know why. Let me see the formation, let me see
Speaker 1: what the guy did. Let me see the defensive coverage.
Speaker 1: Was it just a great route? Did he just beat
Speaker 1: Sometimes O, Joe, you just beat the guy and that's okay.
Speaker 3: You get paid. He gets paid.
Speaker 1: Sometimes Ocho just gonna win because Ocho was just a
Speaker 1: better player. Sometimes the defensive back is gonna win. He wins.
Speaker 1: Some you win more than he than you lose. Sometimes
Speaker 1: who blew the assignment? Was it the safety? Was he
Speaker 1: getting greedy paying attention to the tight end on the
Speaker 1: over when he should have been deep middle? Was what
Speaker 1: did the corner? Why did he did he not? Did
Speaker 1: he not shovel the receiver down inside and sink? Why
Speaker 1: was he still so far? Why was he so close
Speaker 1: up when there's nothing to threaten the flat. I'm analyzing
Speaker 1: all of that. It's just not good enough for me
Speaker 1: to know that they scored. I'm trying to see why
Speaker 1: they scored. And then I'm gonna tell you, based on
Speaker 1: my experience, having played the game, having studied the game,
Speaker 1: this is what I think happened. So oo, and I
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do. We're not making excuses for Shador.
Speaker 1: She door has to do a better job of not
Speaker 1: making a bad situation worse.
Speaker 5: Hey, I was so confused the night too on. Let
Speaker 5: me let me tell you something.
Speaker 4: I really, I really do this. And I watched the
Speaker 4: game for a long time, so I thought, maybe I'm tripping.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm tripping based on what I'm seeing, and maybe
Speaker 4: I'm not seeing it correctly.
Speaker 5: Hell, I picked up the phone. I called TJ. I
Speaker 5: call who I call?
Speaker 4: Whosh uh, And I'm like, who'sh am I tripping? Or
Speaker 4: did I see what I thought I just saw? When
Speaker 4: twelve winning the game? He's like, yeah, yeah, you could
Speaker 4: tell that was a bunch your you know what you
Speaker 4: know TJ.
Speaker 5: TJ don't care. He just he just go off.
Speaker 4: He went off off the rock on the phone. Yeah,
Speaker 4: why would you put him in that situation? I said, Okay,
Speaker 4: I just want if I heard it from you, and
Speaker 4: I know how you and you know how t TJ.
Speaker 5: He gonna tell it like it is. You know, he
Speaker 5: don't care.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Okay, I just want to make sure I want trip.
Speaker 4: I just want to make sure I want from another
Speaker 4: mouth the actually played the goddamn game, the receiver position
Speaker 4: that also knows the game extremely well all the intimacies
Speaker 4: that come with it.
Speaker 5: Okay, Boom, I know I won't trip.
Speaker 1: No, And the thing that I hate is that you
Speaker 1: keep him buried. Now, hey, o Jo, maybe a you
Speaker 1: keep him and he gives reps because when you're in
Speaker 1: the practice squad, now you're gonna get reps because you're
Speaker 1: gonna get reps because you practicing the other guy stuff.
Speaker 1: Because so because because when they hold the card up,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you you, I mean you you read because
Speaker 1: you want to they hold the card up. And so
Speaker 1: they got the plays drawn up and they circle where
Speaker 1: they want the ball to go.
Speaker 3: So they're telling me, hey, this is what this is
Speaker 3: our fox to X and Y hook.
Speaker 1: This is our twenty five dagger, this is our double
Speaker 1: square out, this is our comeback. This is that they're
Speaker 1: telling us what this play is in our terminology, so
Speaker 1: there's no mistaken.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the decordinators say, come in here. He put a
Speaker 1: little extra sauce on it because this receiver has like
Speaker 1: he got he got some real good ad. He got
Speaker 1: some shake on him. Now he ain't just move down there, breakdown, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: he studied a he has he at the line and
Speaker 1: then he goes stumble to die. So give us some
Speaker 1: of that. A quarterback run around a little bit. We
Speaker 1: played Junior sayout off at the corderator. Coob and Mike
Speaker 1: would tell burn Keith Burns was normal a junior say out.
Speaker 1: He said, go wherever you want to go. If it's
Speaker 1: if you're supposed to be in the A gap, go
Speaker 1: go in the sea gap.
Speaker 3: Do whatever you ay.
Speaker 1: You got no responsibility if you suppose to blitz dropping
Speaker 1: past coverage, because that's exactly what Junior would had no
Speaker 1: idea what the hell he was gonna do, and so
Speaker 1: that's how he That's how he played it. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: what hey, you were supposed to blitz? He said, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to leave.
Speaker 5: That was so funny.
Speaker 3: What's his name?
Speaker 4: Told me some stories about about Junior man, Hey, yeah,
Speaker 4: hey buddy, buddy.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's his word. That's what hey buddy.
Speaker 5: Hey buddy.
Speaker 2: Oh man.
Speaker 1: Everybody was buddy. I don't think he ever called anybody
Speaker 1: the name. Every coaches with buddy.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: The offense.
Speaker 1: If you played office, you buddy. If you play defense,
Speaker 1: you with buddy, Hey buddy.
Speaker 5: But I think.
Speaker 4: What's the coach of Alabama? His names of my mind
Speaker 4: s af this time. If I'm not mistaken, Uh, that's
Speaker 4: when I think that's when God.
Speaker 3: Wise name Ronnie Brown, all those guys, right.
Speaker 4: And Shannon Crowder was telling me, mister, they came out
Speaker 4: for practice. They came out for practice. And Genie's say,
Speaker 4: I didn't have on his cleats. He had on regular shoes.
Speaker 4: And Nick daven master totally master, total him. Ay, you
Speaker 4: got your regular shoes on. You know you're not gonna
Speaker 4: you're not gonna go change. They say, nah, buddy, I'm
Speaker 4: a practice like this today.
Speaker 5: No, And it was so funny that he told the story. Man,
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, but he was hilarious.
Speaker 3: All right, joining us on the show.
Speaker 1: Now, we'll recommend we'll welcome in pro bowler last year.
Speaker 1: He's a pro bowler. He's number eighty on this year's
Speaker 1: NFL Top one hundred. You were fifty last year, Rashaan,
Speaker 1: despite making the Pro Bowl last year, they have you
Speaker 1: down thirty spots. I want to know what is Rashaan
Speaker 1: Gary gonna do to get back into that top fifty,
Speaker 1: to get back into that top thirty, maybe even get
Speaker 1: up into the top twenty.
Speaker 7: Y'all going to see in two weeks. You know, we
Speaker 7: got a great home over there. Let's go yeah, you know,
Speaker 7: got great home but there you know against the Lions NFC. Uh,
Speaker 7: you know, rivalry. So it's a nice way to start
Speaker 7: the seeason. Uh, I just want my work to show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So a quick question for you.
Speaker 4: Camp is over now, obviously, I'm sure you guys have
Speaker 4: a week to work with some things packers versus packers
Speaker 4: before you get into a.
Speaker 5: Game planning scheme for week one? How was camp for you?
Speaker 5: How's a body holding up? How do you feel? Are
Speaker 5: you going into camp healthy?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: No, this is uh, yeah, it's crazy because I was
Speaker 7: just talking you know, my teammate, anybody. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 7: going into year seven. It's one of the you know,
Speaker 7: the healthiest camps that I have. So you know, I'm
Speaker 7: feeling good, you know, from OTA's all the way through now,
Speaker 7: I've been putting a great body at working and I
Speaker 7: was just trying to, you know, put it on display.
Speaker 1: So, yes, sir, you guys don't play a game for
Speaker 1: another two weeks. If coach, if coach Leafloor are going
Speaker 1: to give you guys some times some time off. Are
Speaker 1: you back at on Monday or do do you get Sunday?
Speaker 1: You get Monday? You guys are back in there Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Are you going to get a little time off before
Speaker 1: you have to hit it and start getting ready for
Speaker 1: the Lions?
Speaker 2: And do we h?
Speaker 7: You know, we got a couple of practices coming up
Speaker 7: next week, but you know we got the weekend off
Speaker 7: and then back to work on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Damn y'all back to work on Sunday already, dab I figured,
Speaker 1: I figured, coach on the floor.
Speaker 3: Give y'all a couple of days off, y'all.
Speaker 1: You're like, well, damn, code we've been at We had
Speaker 1: a good uh, a good camp. Uh the Packers your defense,
Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned Kenny Clark. I'm assuming you're talking
Speaker 1: about Kenny Clark. Now, you lost your cornerback. You're all
Speaker 1: pro cornerback, You trade, you released him, and he ends
Speaker 1: up going to Baltimore. How do you, guys, because you
Speaker 1: guys have shown spots where you guys are dominant.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about dominant.
Speaker 1: You attack the quarterback and you stopped the run, You
Speaker 1: turn the team over, you give you your offense short fields.
Speaker 1: How do you stay consistent in doing that?
Speaker 7: Rest and just holding our standard? Everybody got to they
Speaker 7: one eleven and through out OTAs especially you know, being
Speaker 7: year two and you know coach has system. It's been
Speaker 7: crazy why snave by flying to the ball, tack the
Speaker 7: ball and actually being on one accord, you know, talking
Speaker 7: about first all the way beforeth down get back on
Speaker 7: track downs were all on the same page, all speaking
Speaker 7: the same language.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's been good seeing.
Speaker 4: It for you guys, especially the Packers. Opening up with
Speaker 4: a game like this against the Lions is a good
Speaker 4: test for you guys defensively obviously, whether it be on
Speaker 4: the ground, whether it be in the air, because you
Speaker 4: understand the dynamic and how special the Lions offense is
Speaker 4: even with Ben Johnson leave and they still have all
Speaker 4: those weapons, you know, Jamier, Gibbs and Montgomery, you know,
Speaker 4: the receivers on the outside tight end your thought process
Speaker 4: going into it early so far, what is it that
Speaker 4: you think you guys need to do to win that
Speaker 4: game come week one? From a defensive standpoint, I already
Speaker 4: know what you guys can do on offense. Defensively, can
Speaker 4: you be able to hold them? I'm not sure what
Speaker 4: where the Lions finished when it comes to scoring, but
Speaker 4: you know they can put up points.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, Just like I was saying, We've been doing
Speaker 7: a great job through and campus, being on the same page,
Speaker 7: speaking the same language, understanding what teams want to do
Speaker 7: to us, especially our offense. In these last couple of
Speaker 7: joint practices. Really be on the same page how these
Speaker 7: offensive teams want to attack us, understand how weak points
Speaker 7: and I'm saying when on eleven, know that we understand
Speaker 7: how to protect it. So it's just basically being on
Speaker 7: the same page. And when it comes to you know,
Speaker 7: that game right at three o'clock, we got to be
Speaker 7: locked and focusing on one of the court.
Speaker 2: How we've been and just having fun.
Speaker 5: Okay, one more question, one more question. I know your
Speaker 5: team goals.
Speaker 4: You got team goals obviously from a defensive perspective, team
Speaker 4: goals offensive and decently obviously the main goal you want
Speaker 4: to be in San Francisco at the at the end
Speaker 4: of the season, first week of February. But personal goals,
Speaker 4: your personal goals yourself that you will want to achieve
Speaker 4: with us, you know, whatever it may be.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can just show you my you know shit,
Speaker 7: a little into my mindset, man, Just just trying to
Speaker 7: be dumping it. Man, I've been training in the hardest
Speaker 7: offseason releases, Shawn takeover. Like I said, one through fourth downs, man,
Speaker 7: that's what I'm play for. And really just Sean show
Speaker 7: your body. You know how dominant I can be.
Speaker 3: Rashan, you're the vet.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: There's no more Aaron Rodgers, there is no more j'ahuie. Alexander,
Speaker 1: you're one of the old guards now. So now, how
Speaker 1: has your leaders leadership style change, because guess what, you're
Speaker 1: one of the senior voices.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's been great. Man.
Speaker 7: It's something that you know, you always pray for or
Speaker 7: asks for, and you know it's crazy. You know, we
Speaker 7: got rookies coming in talking about I used to watch
Speaker 7: it be for my high school games. I'm like, man, yeah,
Speaker 7: so you know, it's kind of weird. But I've been
Speaker 7: having I've been having fun in Green Baby, doing a
Speaker 7: great job, especially from when I came in with the
Speaker 7: guys they had ahead of me, being able to keep
Speaker 7: it real with me, especially a big guy to me
Speaker 7: with Mercedes Lewis, so you know, talking to him how
Speaker 7: to take care of my body, things like that. So
Speaker 7: when you know, young guys come up to me asking
Speaker 7: me how to film study, what to look for, things
Speaker 7: like that, I'm able just to keep it really because I.
Speaker 2: Had a good O G.
Speaker 7: But man, it's just been fun man really lead by
Speaker 7: you know, example, and if I need to speak, I
Speaker 7: get there. But then also I started learning that, you know,
Speaker 7: you can't talk to everybody the same way. You know,
Speaker 7: you got to understand you know, everybody background, who you did,
Speaker 7: you know everybody background, you know, while everybody's in there.
Speaker 7: And I feel like, you know, this off season, especially
Speaker 7: through Oca's camp, you know, I've been able to understand people.
Speaker 7: Why so when the dude get time, you know, two
Speaker 7: minutes drive the fourth quarter, when we got locked in,
Speaker 7: you know I could I can hit those points?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey what what what? What's what's it like there
Speaker 5: in Green Bay? Is there anything to do? Is is
Speaker 5: it fun?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 7: You know it's chill com Yeah, play football man and
Speaker 7: focus man man, chill come green Bay. You know it's
Speaker 7: slept on, but you know it's a great community and
Speaker 7: as well love.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, yeah, I mean you got Milwaukee, you got Chicago.
Speaker 1: There's a couple that's ninety minutes away. You got Milwaukee's
Speaker 1: ninety minutes away. So but it's easy to play. My
Speaker 1: brother played there for seven years. Rashaan and then you know,
Speaker 1: going to visit him. You can see why they have success.
Speaker 1: In the sixties, ain't nothing else to do. There was
Speaker 1: less to do then than there is now. But you
Speaker 1: can understand why the Packers have success. There's not a
Speaker 1: whole lot to get into. There's not a whole lot
Speaker 1: of trouble. There's not a look if you Apple turns
Speaker 1: down the way, but that's a college town. Like I
Speaker 1: mentioned Milwaukee, but hell, Milwaukee closed down at ten thirty.
Speaker 1: You ain't really trying to drive way to Chicago.
Speaker 3: You ain't really try to drive way. Does Chicago to
Speaker 3: have a good type?
Speaker 1: Ay when you're there for those months when you come
Speaker 1: back for training camp and you're there, Hey, bro, let's
Speaker 1: make the best of this situation. We can get tunnel visions,
Speaker 1: we can lock in. Let's try to go compete and
Speaker 1: win a super.
Speaker 7: That's the mindset and that's how it's always been being
Speaker 7: a Green Bay Packer.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, if they're a play that
Speaker 1: you replay, if there are almost sacked, if there's almost
Speaker 1: a ball that was on the ground that you damn
Speaker 1: if I could have just gotten this one, it would
Speaker 1: have helped. If they're a play that you replay in
Speaker 1: your mind since you've been in Green Bay that you
Speaker 1: was like, man, if i'd have made that play, that
Speaker 1: have been a difference in the game.
Speaker 7: To be honest with you now, if the top of
Speaker 7: my head. But you know, I play too hard to
Speaker 7: give it up man. Like I said, I'm going on
Speaker 7: year seven, and like a lot of guys I talked to,
Speaker 7: you know, you can't take it for granted. And right
Speaker 7: now I'm in some crucial years where I feel like,
Speaker 7: you know, I could take off and started sending in
Speaker 7: the right way.
Speaker 4: It's flying by. Huh Do you realize you're in your
Speaker 4: seven already? It went by fast, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going by fast. It's going by fast.
Speaker 7: Like I said, I'm trying to stay in the moment
Speaker 7: and then you know, enjoy the ride.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it is because you look up and you're
Speaker 1: going to be in your teen because you know, you're like, man,
Speaker 1: let me get five, and you say, well, let me
Speaker 1: get to ten, and then once you get to ten,
Speaker 1: you're like, let me take it a year at a time.
Speaker 1: But before you know it, I mean I woke up
Speaker 1: one morning like, damn, I mean your teen and next day,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, calling Mike said, Hey, this is it
Speaker 1: for me, bro I'm done. It goes, it goes fast.
Speaker 1: And that's why I tell guys, enjoy it. Make sure
Speaker 1: you're training, you're eating, your prep, everything, because you don't
Speaker 1: want to have not one ioda of regrets. Because regret
Speaker 1: when you leave this game, you can't go back, and
Speaker 1: so to have that moment of regret for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life, it'll eat at you. So when you done, Rashan,
Speaker 1: when you say, hey green Bay, Hey Lafloor or a
Speaker 1: Gouda can so whomever you got a call to say
Speaker 1: that I'm done. Hopefully you finish your career in Green Bay,
Speaker 1: you're like you look back, You're like, man, I gave
Speaker 1: it everything I had, the way I trained, the way
Speaker 1: I slept, the way I practiced, the way I met
Speaker 1: do everything. I walk away my head, help my head
Speaker 1: hell high, knowing I couldn't have got anything else out
Speaker 1: of the talent that God blessed me with.
Speaker 5: Hey it's a good one right here too. But it's
Speaker 5: a good one.
Speaker 4: So I think about obviously during my playing days and
Speaker 4: some of the players that I looked up to at
Speaker 4: at the same position obviously while we're still playing, I
Speaker 4: would I would watch their film and study some of
Speaker 4: the things that they that they did and still, you know,
Speaker 4: steal some of their moves no matter whatether you just
Speaker 4: to be able to add to my game to improve
Speaker 4: year to year. Who are some players that played the
Speaker 4: exact same position you do that you look up to
Speaker 4: and watch their film to see what they do where.
Speaker 5: You can add to your toolbox as well.
Speaker 7: Yeah with me, it's funny, but I like going throwback.
Speaker 7: So you know, I like throwing on Julis Peppers, Yeah,
Speaker 7: Julius Peppers, Yeah, Julius Peppers. I love Tom Ally uh
Speaker 7: ways and Kansas City Chiefs, Yeah, justin Houston. You know
Speaker 7: those are guys I feel like I read similar tours
Speaker 7: and then nowadays, you know, you're throwing you know, Miles Garrett,
Speaker 7: you get you, you know, been in the edge of you.
Speaker 2: Know, t J. Watt.
Speaker 7: But I ain't gonna lie this year, speed the power
Speaker 7: get you know. Uh, you know, this year, I've been
Speaker 7: doing a lot of watching myself.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like, I like, yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this because you and I was
Speaker 1: talking and how we approach the game of football. How
Speaker 1: we approach as a wide receiver when you go into
Speaker 1: a game, obviously you try to get to the quarterback,
Speaker 1: but everything leads to something else. I'm showing in one
Speaker 1: th but that's not really what I want to do.
Speaker 1: I'm giving him this, but I really want to do that,
Speaker 1: But I'm saving it for a rainy day because i
Speaker 1: know it's gonna come a third down in this board
Speaker 1: quarter And I know, hey, I've been running up the
Speaker 1: field the whole game, and I know, hey, hey, I
Speaker 1: know I've been stabbing you the whole game. Hey, I've
Speaker 1: been posted and wiping you away the whole game. And
Speaker 1: I know you, I know you finished sit on that
Speaker 1: because that's what I've given you. I've given you no
Speaker 1: reason to prepare for anything else. Is that how you
Speaker 1: approach the rush game?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: Look, I'm doing what I can, but I know I
Speaker 1: got to have this in my back pocket when I
Speaker 1: absolutely got to get this quarterback on the ground.
Speaker 7: Yeah, own, shoot, you know, think about pass rushers and
Speaker 7: every pass rusher I talked to, man, you you know
Speaker 7: all the great ones. You really got about four moves
Speaker 7: in the toolbox and uh, at the end of the day,
Speaker 7: it's really by reacting to what the you know, the
Speaker 7: office in Lineman wants you to do. But once you
Speaker 7: get off the ball, the seratain way and you you know, God,
Speaker 7: I'm thinking, oh, he about to stave on about the
Speaker 7: stab on geh, I stab you the first four or five,
Speaker 7: maybe six rushers, but you know that third, you know,
Speaker 7: crucial down you know, thirty and ten, thirty and eight,
Speaker 7: we got you off the field. I'm out, just sit
Speaker 7: you down at the edge. But yeah, it's a game.
Speaker 7: It's a game within delonji'all both know that.
Speaker 1: It absolutely it's a beautiful thing to watch the guys
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm a little I'm a lot older
Speaker 1: than you are, probably the age of your dad.
Speaker 3: But the past rushers.
Speaker 1: To watch DT how he got up the edge and
Speaker 1: bent the edge. He reminds me of von Miller. And
Speaker 1: then I see Reggie White, how he just had pure power.
Speaker 1: He just hey, he's just getting on the edge and
Speaker 1: he gonna hump you. You already know what's coming. You
Speaker 1: can sit down as much as you want to. You
Speaker 1: three thirty and try to sit on it. You gonna
Speaker 1: get humped. He gonna throw a three hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: pound man like he's a sack of potatoes. And then
Speaker 1: you get a guy like a Bruce Smith that's two
Speaker 1: sixty five, two seventy all out like a Miles Garrett
Speaker 1: playing on a five technique, and you're like, bro, how
Speaker 1: do this man bend to edge like that? How could
Speaker 1: he lean? He's this high off the ground reach And
Speaker 1: I'm like, how how did he do that? I'm watching you.
Speaker 1: You you got a lot of power. I see the
Speaker 1: way I see the way you're built from wais down
Speaker 1: and the way you can you can post a guy.
Speaker 3: Wax on, wax him off. You can also bend the edge.
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, you can convert speed the power because
Speaker 1: you can't.
Speaker 3: It's all about getting off the ball.
Speaker 1: Once I get off the ball, you at my mercy, bro,
Speaker 1: as long as I'm not lazy off the ball.
Speaker 7: Barbecue, it's gonna be a good night.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. So let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: A lot of guys will listen to the TV version,
Speaker 1: they'll get the TV version, and they'll try to pick
Speaker 1: up the quarterbacks Cadence how Blue seventeen Blue seventeen.
Speaker 3: Ready to say?
Speaker 1: Do you do things like that? Try to pick up
Speaker 1: the audio copy, try to pick up the colt.
Speaker 2: Shoot.
Speaker 7: I'm in the you know, the quarterback quarterback head. I'm
Speaker 7: also into I'm heavy on the office and line talk.
Speaker 7: The office and line is gonna tell you everything. Let
Speaker 7: you know if it's run.
Speaker 2: You know, how they communicate, how you're fitting it in eyes,
Speaker 2: body language. Yeah, I'm mental it all.
Speaker 7: But especially once I heard the office and line and uh,
Speaker 7: you know talking, they kind of be able to you know,
Speaker 7: for my reason everything, I'm kind of able to pick
Speaker 7: it up and play faster.
Speaker 1: Especially when you're at home, because it's hard for them
Speaker 1: to hear. So they've got to communicate. And as much
Speaker 1: as he's trying to look at you, he gotta look.
Speaker 1: But now they kind of hold hands a little bit.
Speaker 1: But he still got to kind of look inside and hey,
Speaker 1: all you all you need is all you need is
Speaker 1: a half a step. That's all you need. It ain't no,
Speaker 1: ain't no. Look these guys are good. You ain't just
Speaker 1: gonna just beat these guys. But that half of step
Speaker 1: that you get, that you get them at edge, and
Speaker 1: once you get them shoulders heay, once he turned.
Speaker 2: Alien, Bro, you're.
Speaker 1: Not finna ride me up the field, I'm finna get
Speaker 1: skinny and I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Get narrow, get the quarterback on the ground.
Speaker 1: So and before the twenty nineteen draft, you funded your
Speaker 1: own sports agency, the Rashaun Gary Sports. What inspired you
Speaker 1: to do something like this?
Speaker 7: Going to Michigan, being able to sit in the you know,
Speaker 7: our Ross Business School had a couple of classes. I
Speaker 7: was blessed and fortunate to have a couple of classes
Speaker 7: in there, and just you know, actually talk about no
Speaker 7: business models, marketing. Actually got to you know, talk about
Speaker 7: life after football, and it's something that you know, I
Speaker 7: really never thought about it, and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 7: we could be real. No, football is the biggest thing.
Speaker 7: This is not gonna stop. It's only gonna get bigger
Speaker 7: and bigger and keep growing and growing. So I'm like,
Speaker 7: you know, when I get older, and then when I
Speaker 7: do hang my cleets up, you know, how can I
Speaker 7: you know, stay around you know the game, you know,
Speaker 7: get the game the young guys, especially in positions where
Speaker 7: you know, I wish I would have had growing up.
Speaker 7: And then also the league of legacy you know for
Speaker 7: my kids kids and hopefully they kids.
Speaker 2: So he's just trying to build it become a powerhouse
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 5: That's dope, that's dope.
Speaker 1: That's it, mart Rashon. You do realize that division you in.
Speaker 1: You got the Packers, they won fourteen games last year.
Speaker 1: You got the Lions, they won fifteen games last year.
Speaker 1: You got the Bears, and many believe they're much improved
Speaker 1: with the addition as Ben Johnson as their head coach. Coach,
Speaker 1: they've added pieces on the offensive line to protect Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1: Defense seemed to be flying around on the new DC
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen and yourself.
Speaker 3: The Packers. You guys made the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Jordan Love had the surgery on his left hand, but hey,
Speaker 1: everybody say he's good to go. What do the Packers
Speaker 1: need to do to win this division? Get a home
Speaker 1: game and say, let whatever happens happen after that.
Speaker 2: We got to go.
Speaker 7: Out there and we just got to play Packers ball.
Speaker 7: Like I said, we've been going it from Oja through camp.
Speaker 7: I'm talking about even finishing the pre game, I mean
Speaker 7: preseason on a high note. You know, we've got to
Speaker 7: keep everything flown, like I said, especially on defense. We've
Speaker 7: been speaking the same way I've been seeing the offense,
Speaker 7: you know, do their thing.
Speaker 2: Connecting even especial teams.
Speaker 7: You know, the guys flying down understand that's a very
Speaker 7: crucial part and an important part of the game. So
Speaker 7: all we gotta do is be consistent, and I do
Speaker 7: mindset to go. Want to know every week?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would let me ask you this at practice.
Speaker 1: Do you if you see something from like your offensive line, like, bro,
Speaker 1: that's a tail. I can tell when you run the ball,
Speaker 1: I tell when you're passing the ball. I can tell
Speaker 1: how you trying to you trying to set me up.
Speaker 1: Do you guys communicate like that? Do they tell you, Hey, Richard, bro,
Speaker 1: I a you you gave this move away? Do you
Speaker 1: guys communicate like that with one another?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: That's iron sharp and iron especially when I'm trying to
Speaker 7: work on something I'm big on that I'm talking about
Speaker 7: both my tackles come to me like with bother. So
Speaker 7: of course I'm gonna tell them everything I don't like
Speaker 7: to do so I can work on that in practice
Speaker 7: and vice versa. You know me working on sometain moves, Okay,
Speaker 7: you telegraph that, man, if you would have sold it
Speaker 7: up an extra set you feel me or oh you
Speaker 7: got me on that move.
Speaker 2: I'm like all right, you know, keep working things like that.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's iron sharp and iron practice and me
Speaker 7: before the information for season. That's not gonna better the team.
Speaker 7: So I'd rather make it hard on me now. So
Speaker 7: for the guys that do give it a win season,
Speaker 7: I can play a little bit faster.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's great man, Thank you Sean for joining us. Man,
Speaker 1: stay healthy, Beth de Luck, Hey, this year you was
Speaker 1: what holo on, Let me find where you were. You
Speaker 1: were a number. You were number eighty. Man, you drop fifty,
Speaker 1: You down thirty spots. So when we come back and
Speaker 1: have this conversation next week next year, you got to
Speaker 1: be in the top thirty. You got to be thirty
Speaker 1: a buve we thirty of.
Speaker 2: A look gonna be great talking see.
Speaker 1: Then, Thank you, bro, Beth de Luck, stay healthy, good
Speaker 1: luck to the package this season and we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: to you. Thank you, honest, appreciate you, Bro. That will
Speaker 1: go with Rashard Gary, Ladies and gentlemen. Oh Joe Shot
Speaker 1: Sanders was ejected after throwing the punch at Bill's tight end.
Speaker 3: Zach Davidson. Should he have been ejected?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, you can't do that. You got to
Speaker 5: be able to control yourself, especially in that moment.
Speaker 4: I know the tight end. You know they was locked
Speaker 4: up a little bit. He was probably trying to rough
Speaker 4: hide him a little bit.
Speaker 5: But you have to be able to control yourself.
Speaker 4: You got to be able to control your emotions there,
Speaker 4: especially in moments like that, especially in the game, especially
Speaker 4: in the game, so you know you have no choice
Speaker 4: if you throw a punch, if anything, if if your
Speaker 4: arm extends and it touches the other individual, you're going
Speaker 4: out the game every time.
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, he in the open field. That's not like
Speaker 1: an offensive defensive linemano. You in the bow and can't
Speaker 1: nobody to see you tried to hit the.
Speaker 3: Guy right the bat judge in the side, Joe, that's
Speaker 3: where you studied, right.
Speaker 5: Right there, right there. You know.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you got players that are provoke you. Sometimes, Yeah,
Speaker 4: they're going to see the person that's last, Nancy, who initiated,
Speaker 4: but they.
Speaker 5: Gonna always see the person who swings last. Gotta be
Speaker 5: able to.
Speaker 1: I ain't tried, I ain't trying to get you back
Speaker 1: in front of the ref. I'm gonna try to get
Speaker 1: you back when you ain't thinking about it, because see
Speaker 1: if I do something then you brace it. You all
Speaker 1: you're gonna do is turn to the reft. You see relp,
Speaker 1: he did the age storry. Hey, reef, you see what
Speaker 1: Andy four did? You see what he did? Don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. I'm gonna get your black It's gonna look
Speaker 1: like a place. I'm gonna get your half back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna get your teammates.
Speaker 5: Somebody. Somebody gonna get it.
Speaker 1: Somebody gonna get got They got your color uniform on.
Speaker 1: He ain't had nothing to do with it, but that's
Speaker 1: your teammate. Hey, y'all know how it is that work. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you with somebody that's related to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I agree with you. Oh, Joe Shanlo knows better.
Speaker 1: Sharlo knows he can't do a situation like that. Bro,
Speaker 1: you can't hurt that he got on. He got on
Speaker 1: the helmet. So let's just say for take about you
Speaker 1: hit it, Okay, you hit him in the head. Oh
Speaker 1: what happened? You break your hand? You gonna get a
Speaker 1: penalty in this situation.
Speaker 3: You got tossed.
Speaker 1: Now, even if you do rate the wrong, you do
Speaker 1: know when you get thrown out a game, won't you
Speaker 1: you know that's like twenty thirty thousand dollars. So here,
Speaker 1: let's just say, for the sake of argument, Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: how much is an ejection in the football game?
Speaker 3: It like twenty five thirty thousands?
Speaker 5: Not that much?
Speaker 4: The hell you say, my goddamn celebrations with twenty five
Speaker 4: thirty thousand.
Speaker 3: I know they ain't, but you stayed in the game.
Speaker 1: Your celebration they called you to get tossed out of
Speaker 1: a game?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kidd how much is an injection.
Speaker 4: Especially your first time offense too? They gonna say they're
Speaker 4: gonna take all that into account.
Speaker 3: Actually, like thirty two thousands, they go.
Speaker 5: They gonna let they gonna let him appeel that. They
Speaker 5: gonna let him peel that. Who have offenced to They're
Speaker 5: gonna be like.
Speaker 3: Who you appeal to? You? So let me ask you
Speaker 3: a question.
Speaker 1: Still Mert Hanks, No, I think I think it's Brooks,
Speaker 1: Derek Brooks, James Thrash and John running.
Speaker 3: So Brooks and Thrash and then running James Thrash.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, say I'm James Thrash. What hey wait, Derek
Speaker 5: Brooks about.
Speaker 3: He threw a punch? Yeah, forty for five year Old Show.
Speaker 4: Hey, hold on, you said Derek Brooks, what's about double nickel? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. Man, they gonna take him. They're
Speaker 4: gonna take him.
Speaker 1: I mean brooksy thrashed. They're very friendly, but some things, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, uh yeah, physical contact with him officials forty thousand.
Speaker 1: A second offense is eighty one thousand verbal or non
Speaker 1: physical offense with against official.
Speaker 3: So if you curse in or something, that's thirty two thousand,
Speaker 3: next one fighting forty thousand.
Speaker 1: For the first defense forty thousand, six hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: six dollars, A second offense is eighty one thousand.
Speaker 4: Woo.
Speaker 1: So unsports them like conduct, and then I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe they label label it unsports.
Speaker 3: Them like conduct.
Speaker 5: Okay, babec, But what what do they call it during
Speaker 5: the game?
Speaker 3: What did they say during the game?
Speaker 1: Because that if you throw a ball into the stands,
Speaker 1: that's eighty one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: Oh joe, what you play.
Speaker 5: In the stand still?
Speaker 1: I know I ain't throw one chin strap show the
Speaker 1: pass thive knee pass, that's fifty seven, that's fifty eight
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. Unapproved visor or tent lack of brand marks,
Speaker 1: fifty seven hundred personal messages about eleven five.
Speaker 5: Damn gang signs. Ooh, gang side.
Speaker 3: Don't do that, don't do that. That's all I got
Speaker 3: for yo, Joe.
Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, that's that's a gang sign too.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's all I got. That's all I got for you.
Speaker 1: But I just say, the look, the emotions got the
Speaker 1: best of him. You know, you're fighting for a roster spot.
Speaker 1: I don't know what, Like I said, I don't know
Speaker 1: what happened. I just you know, saw the steal shots
Speaker 1: of it, like so, I don't know.
Speaker 4: If he did this or he did and blocking him
Speaker 4: all the way down the field, it's like, yeah, he
Speaker 4: you know, obviously tight end came off, got up on
Speaker 4: the safety and they just he trying to drive him back,
Speaker 4: driving back, and.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming he tried to dump it. He tried, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he tried.
Speaker 5: To do that's all a little rough house.
Speaker 1: And uh we find out what they what they call
Speaker 1: it in the game. And you know, you just gotta
Speaker 1: be smart a situation like that, because you are fighting
Speaker 1: for a position. You don't want to do anything that
Speaker 1: cost your position. But you know, hey, I trust me
Speaker 1: sometime with emotions high. Logic is low. We've all done
Speaker 1: things that like we look back at it like, but man,
Speaker 1: why the hell I do that?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: And your door probably like as he's walking to the tunnel, like,
Speaker 1: everybody get your door, excuse me, shallow. Everybody's gonna get God.
Speaker 1: If you play long enough, somebody gonna get you with
Speaker 1: a block. Somebody gonna gonna pancake you, Somebody gonna route
Speaker 1: your ass up. You gonna get God. It's like being
Speaker 1: in the NBA. You gonna get dunk on. You played
Speaker 1: long enough, you'll get dunked on. I don't care. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are. You going to get got.
Speaker 1: Offensive line is gonna get beat, he gonna get run over.
Speaker 1: Defensive line is gonna get blocked, he gonna get pancake.
Speaker 3: Quarterback gonna get hit.
Speaker 1: All that's going to happen because it's the game of football.
Speaker 1: And those guys are really good that you're going against.
Speaker 1: They're really good. I know you're really good also, but
Speaker 1: they're really good. And somebody that's really good can make
Speaker 1: somebody else that's really good look bad. I don't think
Speaker 1: people realize. People just think that, oh, he's such and
Speaker 1: such he's supposed to win all the time. No, hell
Speaker 1: you not, no even bad Bonds. He didn't strike out
Speaker 1: off them, but he did strike out. Tony Gwyn didn't
Speaker 1: strike out off him, but he did strike out. He
Speaker 1: did get nobody hit five hundred, hit six seven hundred,
Speaker 1: so obviously, but you know, I ain't really never got
Speaker 1: that mad on you, not the game. I mean, somebody,
Speaker 1: have somebody done some dirty stuff? Yeah, and I got
Speaker 1: damned back.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm trying to think whatever. The only time
Speaker 5: I was about the fire when I was gonna beat
Speaker 5: raised ass. That's it.
Speaker 3: You heard me.
Speaker 4: You're gonna be the mouth of the mouth and the
Speaker 4: bat Ray all up and down M and T Bank Stadium.
Speaker 4: He lucky aed Re grabbed me, Broy. I was feeling
Speaker 4: good that day too. I was feeling good. I was
Speaker 4: feeling good.
Speaker 5: He ain't even know Ray ain't even know like he
Speaker 5: hit me.
Speaker 3: Right, okay, okay, go ahead, what you say?
Speaker 5: He hit me?
Speaker 4: I went for the slant. It was too high, I mean,
Speaker 4: and listen, my helmet went flying. So once I got
Speaker 4: my helmet, Once I got my helmet, and I was
Speaker 4: getting ready to walk up on him, and he knew
Speaker 4: I was gonna hit him in the stomach.
Speaker 5: So you know, we hit somebody in the stomach. The
Speaker 5: first thing they do it, they go they've been down.
Speaker 3: Did you catch up with uppercut?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And so man, listen, by man, boy, I'll tell you
Speaker 4: what I would have that fifty two would have been
Speaker 4: twenty five when I would double rade that day.
Speaker 1: Boy, I don't think you had. I don't think you
Speaker 1: had all your bearings. I mean I think you were.
Speaker 1: I think he was about to be the headless foot
Speaker 1: the headland football player, because I thought your head within
Speaker 1: that hell it was it.
Speaker 5: Was it was you couldn't get his work.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, that's that's one of that's one of the
Speaker 4: things I missed though. Like I know, I play around
Speaker 4: a lot. I make a lot of jokes. I'm always
Speaker 4: laughing and stuff. Being able to compete not anybody, I'm
Speaker 4: about being able to compete against those stealer teams with
Speaker 4: Ike Taylor and James Harrison and Larry Footen and Joey
Speaker 4: Porter and oh man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought you was gonna say you miss uh
Speaker 3: you miss getting Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't mind that either. Listen.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm I was like I was like gummay yunk.
Speaker 4: I ain't caring about that getting hit.
Speaker 5: You gotta you gotta.
Speaker 4: I got up from every single hit except one eleven years.
Speaker 5: One hit I didn't get up.
Speaker 3: That was it. Will you pop up? Fans, they know
Speaker 3: they got.
Speaker 4: You, now you know, I pop up fast talking trash
Speaker 4: though every time there was some good days.
Speaker 5: Man, I missed playing them Ravens Man the defenses.
Speaker 4: Man, oh, that was such a joy, such a joy
Speaker 4: because you had no you had no choice but to
Speaker 4: show up on.
Speaker 5: There's no weakness. There was no weakness nowhere, nowhere.
Speaker 3: Division games always too.
Speaker 4: Second level was good, secondary was good, and here go
Speaker 4: my my crazy I'm talking. I'm talking trash all week
Speaker 4: long to take all the pressure off of everybody else
Speaker 4: on our team. So all the pressure was on me. Now,
Speaker 4: all y'all got to do is just go out there
Speaker 4: and just do your job. Nah, because they cheap gotting everybody.
Speaker 3: Man, why did you? Man? Can tell Sharp shut up? Okay?
Speaker 1: Man, Sharp, leave along. You ain't gonna block him? Well,
Speaker 1: you need to block better.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I enjoyed it that way, man. I don't know why.
Speaker 3: Man, I know Look, you know what I bet you?
Speaker 1: I bet your time called him from the I bet
Speaker 1: your time called shallow in the locker room.
Speaker 5: Of course, man, what did you?
Speaker 3: Man? What is you doing?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 3: That's exactly?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 5: Come on?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 3: What you doing?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 4: Sir?
Speaker 1: You think? So let me ask you a question. You
Speaker 1: hit him, You think you heard him. You think there
Speaker 1: was a greater chance you hurt your own self or
Speaker 1: you hurt him. You could hurt him. You hurt your
Speaker 1: own self, your own team, or you hurt him or
Speaker 1: his team, because that's how that's how you look. There's
Speaker 1: a I don't know if he like he ain't really
Speaker 1: no time, ain't really no yeller. He's more of a
Speaker 1: talker and a stern and a and a stern way
Speaker 1: to get his porn costs.
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, what what? What come? What are you doing? Really?
Speaker 1: You thought that was your that was your answer? The man,
Speaker 1: the man, the man that the man that drove you
Speaker 1: like a winter bago. So now you mad because you
Speaker 1: couldn't get him up off you. You take a swipe
Speaker 1: at it. Oh man, Hey, sharlow, you gonna get the
Speaker 1: weight room. Bro, Them guys, them guys, bigg them tight ends. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know I was just strong, but I wasn't you
Speaker 1: know I was two twenty eight. Them guys now them
Speaker 1: tight as now they six four six five two fifty
Speaker 1: two sixty. Hey, you got to drop an anger on him, shallow,
Speaker 1: get the fuck me? The hell you thinking this?
Speaker 4: And Prime got to be careful because Sharlotte was hittinghim
Speaker 4: back with You were the same one out there fight
Speaker 4: with Andre Rising. So are you sitting there telling me
Speaker 4: about everybody you was out there?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: I remember, bet I remember that, like they were like
Speaker 1: he tried to show, he tried to show out from
Speaker 1: in my house you can't come to my hand. I
Speaker 1: think Dre forgot that time was left handed. He was, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. He was looking for the right and tied
Speaker 1: would kill it with the left. I think I think
Speaker 1: that's what happened. See that wou get your own show
Speaker 1: because you think most of the time and I think
Speaker 1: most people are right handed. What's the percentage of right
Speaker 1: handed people? If it ain't no fifty fifty like a
Speaker 1: coin flip, it's got to be like seventy thirty righted
Speaker 1: and left it And so you automatically soon somebody right handed,
Speaker 1: and so you let you you looking for that right
Speaker 1: and he just got the upside your head.
Speaker 8: With left got got the boy was going and see
Speaker 8: the thing was time was smart see time and when
Speaker 8: when pleasuring me, Time ain't want to break.
Speaker 1: His hand open open ty was open handed it. But
Speaker 1: I think I think Shia will learned. I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, if hopefully he makes the squad and
Speaker 1: he can get to because this thing, if you on
Speaker 1: the practice squad, don't Joe, you ain't making forty fives
Speaker 1: of the week, They're gonna tell your first three weeks
Speaker 1: going to the NFL.
Speaker 5: You're gonna be alright, You're gonna be all right.
Speaker 3: Like and that's what's amazing. That's what the thing is
Speaker 3: is that
Speaker 1: Uh those fines man, they a like Damn I could
Speaker 1: have used that forty thous two