WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: The Star Wars Holiday Special of 1978

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<v Speaker 1>Ahoy, Solemn Life Day to you all. This is Josh

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<v Speaker 1>and for this week's s Y s K Selects. It's

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<v Speaker 1>our annual Christmas edition of the Star Wars Holiday Special.

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<v Speaker 1>Here to kick off your holiday season in grand style.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Life Day actually took place this year on

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<v Speaker 1>Novem but we wanted to wait to save it until

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<v Speaker 1>a little closer to Christmas to really put everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the Christmas spirit. So here everyone is the Stuff You

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<v Speaker 1>Should Know annual holiday tradition of the listening of the

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars Holiday Special episode Enjoy, Happy Holidays. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff You Should Know, a production of My Heart Radios

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuckers Bryant and Jerry Rome

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<v Speaker 1>role And uh, it was the Wookie mother. Yeah, Mala,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the Wookie wife. Oh and mother? Yeah sure,

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<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca's bomb is not with them any longer. She left,

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<v Speaker 1>she was not about to appear in that. She went

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<v Speaker 1>out the window. I'm excited about this. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say we should say Happy Star Wars Day. Yeah. Today

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<v Speaker 1>is um December. Um, I have my opening night tickets?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you really sure? Wow? You know I do you

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<v Speaker 1>into it? Oh? Yeah, well I will definitely go see

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<v Speaker 1>it in the theater, but um, why won't be the

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<v Speaker 1>opening night? Sure, I've gotten really adept at like ignoring spoilers,

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<v Speaker 1>people talking about stuff all like, so I can I

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<v Speaker 1>could conceivably see this movie a month after it comes

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<v Speaker 1>out and still going fresh. I'm an ostrich. Yeah you

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<v Speaker 1>black yourself out? Yeah, you go dark? Do I make

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<v Speaker 1>myself go to sleep face? You go to the dark side.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been there a while now. Uh well, Happy Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars Day though, I'm sure that I think this pairs

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<v Speaker 1>nicely with Christmas Star Wars Day. It's all come together. Yes, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we already missed Life Day though, so happy belated Life Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they celebrating it this year? Novemb Yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>every three years? Mm hmm our cane man job. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's every three years started in nine eight. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do the math, shall we? Mmmm? Quick math break. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that two thousand fourteen was the last Life Day. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we just missed, and then again in seventeen. Okay, so seen,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll celebrate Life Day. We'll put on our red robes

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<v Speaker 1>are ultralong straight ironed wigs, and we'll celebrate Life Day

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<v Speaker 1>the way it was meant to. Yes, And if you

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea what we're talking about, we are talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Life Day, which is a celebration, uh that Wookies

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<v Speaker 1>in the Star Wars universe have every three years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like their Christmas, Yeah, or their tent Supposedly, it's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like Earth. They two. They celebrate the diversity

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<v Speaker 1>of their ecosystem and also remembrance of the dead, and

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<v Speaker 1>they also give gifts there like the Finns. Basically, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a very interesting part of the Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars canon. It is, and it's almost entirely made up,

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<v Speaker 1>dashed off you could possibly say, by um George Lucas

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventies. Um. And it's the basis of what

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<v Speaker 1>is become derided as like one of the worst things

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<v Speaker 1>that ever happened to the Star Wars galaxy. Well, not

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<v Speaker 1>only that, one of the worst things ever aired on television. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>with this galaxy. Yeah, at first that sounds like hyperbole, like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, it's because it was Star Wars, we had

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<v Speaker 1>high expectations, but it's really that bad. Yeah. The people

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<v Speaker 1>who say that have and seen even a second of it. Yeah. Yeah, however,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it, uh when I was a kid, then

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<v Speaker 1>again this week, and you watched it twice this week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it last night and this morning. There's something

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It's mesmerizing, it really is. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things that you start watching it and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to turn it off, but you want to see just

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<v Speaker 1>how absurd it can get. Almost Yeah, and it starts absurd,

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<v Speaker 1>it stays absurd in the middle, it's increasingly more absurd,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets a little less absurd, finishes super absurd. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a train wreck in every single sense of

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<v Speaker 1>the word. Talk to bottom. It's extraordinarily difficult to overstate

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<v Speaker 1>how bad this is. And some people you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>researching this, you read about it, you read descriptions of

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<v Speaker 1>these things, and it just can't possibly be gotten across

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<v Speaker 1>until you see it. So luckily, as we will see,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go onto YouTube and watch it, and you

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<v Speaker 1>may even enjoy this episode more if you pause, go

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<v Speaker 1>spend two hours watching this thing, and then come back

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<v Speaker 1>and laugh along with us. Yeah, there's a great Over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, there have been many segments of it on

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube from badly dub VHS tapes. But there's one really

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good version of it in full UM brought to

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<v Speaker 1>you by w h I O Dayton, Ohio, Channel seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that flashes up on the screen periodically. Man, it

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<v Speaker 1>is high quality. It looks good. It has to basically

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<v Speaker 1>be the copy that the actual UM affiliate broadcast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that. That quality compared to the other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>floating around on YouTube, clearly recorded on a pc R,

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<v Speaker 1>which we're really expensive, very expensive. I did some calculating

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<v Speaker 1>on west Egg UM, so the average VCR went for

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<v Speaker 1>about a thousand dollars. There were brand new it's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars in money, so they're about thirty eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in two thousand fourteen money. Luckily, there were some

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<v Speaker 1>rich people out there recording this stuff, and the wealthy

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<v Speaker 1>have say of us all again yet again, as they

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<v Speaker 1>always do. Yes, Uh, we need to shout out some

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<v Speaker 1>articles that we use for this. There's great a great

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<v Speaker 1>article in Vanity Fair called the Han Solo Comedy Our

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<v Speaker 1>exclamation Point by Frank D. Jacomo. And then there's the

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars Holiday Special was the worst thing on television

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<v Speaker 1>ever by So when we kind of know Alex Pasternak,

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<v Speaker 1>uh from Motherboard, Yeah, which is uh not wired. It's

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<v Speaker 1>uh vice. We wrote a little bit for Motherboard back

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<v Speaker 1>then and we had a call with that, like we're

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<v Speaker 1>like old motherboard vets basically, and the one there one

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<v Speaker 1>more there was another one and I don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>wrote this one chuck. Uh. Yeah, it's the titles the

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars Holiday Special. George Lucas wants to smash every

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<v Speaker 1>copy of with a sledgehammer, which was a famous quote,

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<v Speaker 1>uh supposedly at a convention by Lucas, Yes, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not correct. He didn't ever say that. No, Okay, that

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<v Speaker 1>that sounded like something that people made up. Yes, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you go on the internet you will quickly believe

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<v Speaker 1>that he did. Apparently didn't. So let's I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 1>felt that way though, clearly, because he did appear on

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<v Speaker 1>Robot Chicken and I think two thousand five on the

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<v Speaker 1>Therapist Couch talking about how much he hated the Space Show.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so let's set the background, shall we shall

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<v Speaker 1>we go back to summer getting the old way back machine.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do it. All right, here we are

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<v Speaker 1>there's Waterson. Yeah, I'm just a little six year old

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<v Speaker 1>excited about Star Wars. I am I've just turned one. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what's up yet. I please forgive me

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<v Speaker 1>if I urinate myself, no problem, Okay. Uh So what

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<v Speaker 1>has happened is Star Wars has become a huge, huge hit,

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly out of nowhere, establishing George Lucas is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the brilliant young minds and filmmaking. Even though it was

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<v Speaker 1>in his first movie, it was his first huge, huge

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<v Speaker 1>breakout hit. Oh yeah, for sure, talk I mean talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a breakout hit like no one had ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>anything like it before two thousand one had come out

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<v Speaker 1>in the late sixties. But it wasn't it's still it

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<v Speaker 1>still isn't accessible to all audiences. You know, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cerebral film. Yeah, it's not an adventure movie. This

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<v Speaker 1>was This is like basically swashbuckling on the screen. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in a galaxy far far away, Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>just changed everything and it came on just like a

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<v Speaker 1>hammer um and a new hope. By the way, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then then we're gonna get stuff wrong, nerds, So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>just go ahead and get your little fingers ready to

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<v Speaker 1>email us. Like if it wasn't driven home that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a nerd, by the fact that I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>opening night tickets or any tickets yet, give me a break,

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<v Speaker 1>and by proxy chuck to Okay, thank you. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's hard to stay how great Star Wars was

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<v Speaker 1>in everyone's mind, right. Bill Murray came out with that

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<v Speaker 1>lounge singer Star Wars thing. It was everywhere and if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you just listen to the lyrics of it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really it's just Bill Murray thinking about how much

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars is awesome. Yeah, right, So by the following year, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>George Lucas was he wanted to figure out a way

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<v Speaker 1>to keep audiences just engaged with the whole Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>franchise that he was just starting to build. But he

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<v Speaker 1>knew the Empire Strikes Back was a couple more years out,

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<v Speaker 1>so um he I think he was approached by some

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<v Speaker 1>TV executives who said, have you considered doing some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of TV special? They're all the rage right now. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a we have a graphic that's really awesome that

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<v Speaker 1>we set aside just for TV specials here at CBS.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you let us let's get together and do

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<v Speaker 1>a Star Wars special. That's right. Producers Gary Smith and

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight him on, Uh, we're working over at CBS, and

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<v Speaker 1>they said, this is a great way to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>spirit alive while you're making your other movie. Maybe move

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<v Speaker 1>some more toys. Yeah, which George Lucas got to. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was right before thank Giving, and he said, there'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of people watching TV um pre holiday

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<v Speaker 1>season or I guess in the holiday season. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend before Thanksgiving, it's like everybody's shopping, sitting around family

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<v Speaker 1>like waiting to actually do stuff. That's right, perfect time

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<v Speaker 1>to broadcast something on TV. So Lucas says, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do this. I don't have a ton of time,

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<v Speaker 1>but how about this. I'll get I'll get a story

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<v Speaker 1>together and then you can go hire a whiz bang

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<v Speaker 1>team of veteran writers and producers and directors whatever genre

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<v Speaker 1>you think is appropriate. And those are the words that

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<v Speaker 1>will haunt George Lucas to his grave. Yeah. So Lucas said,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my idea. I wanted to be based um on Wookies,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to take place on their home planet

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<v Speaker 1>of Kazuok or Wookie planet. See is that how you say?

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<v Speaker 1>That's how it's pronounced in the episode the Holiday Special,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also pronounced different ways. Other times, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have pronounced that Cashi e got spell it k A

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<v Speaker 1>s h y y y K, which I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that sounds like Chewbuck's planet sure also called G

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<v Speaker 1>five Wookie planets or Eaton is a mid rim planet. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the whole reason, apparently that George Lucas was interested

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<v Speaker 1>in featuring the Wookies was it is what we in

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<v Speaker 1>show business call low hanging fruit. The reason why it

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<v Speaker 1>was low hanging fruit was because they had just established

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<v Speaker 1>the different scenes that would make the cut for Empire

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<v Speaker 1>Strikes Back and uh, what how did you pronounce it? Again?

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<v Speaker 1>Kazook Kazook had not made the cut. Uh. Even prior

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<v Speaker 1>to this, apparently for a new hope, George Lucas had

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<v Speaker 1>whipped up a forty page what's known as the Wookie Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a forty page supplement that's all about Kazook

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<v Speaker 1>and Wookies and Chewbacca and his family and everything about

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<v Speaker 1>Wookie doom. Right, So he's like, I've got this thing already,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, established I love Wookies. Um, they did make

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<v Speaker 1>the cut. I'm a little sad about that. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ka Zook is not going to show up in

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<v Speaker 1>an Empire strikes back. Let's let's build the entire special

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<v Speaker 1>around wookies. It's basically the one demand me George Lucas

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<v Speaker 1>has That's it. I'll be totally hands off from this

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<v Speaker 1>point on which you kind of was he totally wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually this experience that apparently taught him to

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<v Speaker 1>be the very hands on a person that he is

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<v Speaker 1>famous for being. It came out of this Christmas special.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely he was burned, and um he had an iron

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<v Speaker 1>grip after that on everything. So here's some some of

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<v Speaker 1>the folks behind it. Bruce Valanche, famous uh TV writer.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably seen him on Hollywood Squares. Wasn't he suspected

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<v Speaker 1>of being Thomas pinch On for a while? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>or was Thomas pinch On on Hollywood Squares? I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea. I maybe confabulating some stuff confounding. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of some sort going on. It sounds like it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Valanche was hired as a writer. A guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Lenny Rips was hired as a writer who has some

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<v Speaker 1>great quotes in that Vanity Fair article he does. His

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<v Speaker 1>first quote was, we were really excited because this is

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars. How could it lose famous? Last words? Who

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<v Speaker 1>else was hired? There was a husband and wife team,

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<v Speaker 1>the welch Is, who are the parents of folk singer

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<v Speaker 1>Gillian Welch. I'm a big fan of and I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea that her parents. They were producers slash songwriters

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. They were big on the variety show scene,

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<v Speaker 1>which would turn out to be a really key cog

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<v Speaker 1>in this whole experience. So I feel like, right about here,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry should insert a needle coming off of our records

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<v Speaker 1>on effect. Okay, thanks Jerry, So Chuck, you just said

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<v Speaker 1>singer songwriters. Yeah, what would that have to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars? Yeah? Well, actually, in this Star Wars Holiday special,

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you hadn't seen it, there are musical numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>They decided from the outside that there should be musical numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that they decided that there should be

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<v Speaker 1>musical numbers is because the people who sold George Lucas

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<v Speaker 1>and at the time it was started, the Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>Corporation was what it was called um On. The idea

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<v Speaker 1>of doing this TV special was that everyone would love

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<v Speaker 1>a variety show. Great idea, let's do a variety show.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem was this, Apparently George Lucas didn't watch enough TV,

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<v Speaker 1>and he also overly trusted people who talked to him

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<v Speaker 1>because by yes, variety shows had dominated television for over

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, but it had come to an end. It

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<v Speaker 1>was getting stale. Yeah, we're talking to Carol Burnett show.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite had just been canceled after eleven seasons,

0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Big Red Flags, Sonny and Chair had just had its

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<v Speaker 1>last season. Um, I mean what else like he Hall

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<v Speaker 1>was he? I was still going on, probably still on

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<v Speaker 1>solid golden yet to come on and take up the

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<v Speaker 1>mantel that that would variety show. Oh, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and there was talking in between the songs.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the Mandrell's Sister show. I never watched that one. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's with that country chic thing that happened. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a big deal in the it's kind of happening again.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Oh because of that dude, the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>won all the c m A Awards. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like he's he came along. He's like actually country.

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<v Speaker 1>His dad's like a coal miner for real. From Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I know he means Chris was something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's good. He's come along and been like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys doing? Well, there's a revival in like good

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<v Speaker 1>country music. Again, that's like in the tradition of Merle,

0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Haggard and Cash. And I guess that's probably where the

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<v Speaker 1>country she came from, because there was actually good country

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Yeah, Johnny Cash out a variety show, did

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<v Speaker 1>he really? Yeah? I knew they did, like a Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>singing thing like out in Virginia. Yeah, he had his

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<v Speaker 1>own variety show. Was actually pretty good. There's some like

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<v Speaker 1>really great performances. Do you know how many nerds are

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<v Speaker 1>like get back to Star Wars? I know, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So the Variety Show is is dying sort of,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they figured what a great time to take

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest movie property on the planet and wedge it

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<v Speaker 1>into the variety show milieu. I don't know if wedge

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<v Speaker 1>is the right word. I think maybe uh, nestle it

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<v Speaker 1>in there and then start hitting it with the blunt

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<v Speaker 1>edge of an axe until it mashes into that crevice.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Because this is the time when Fantasy Island

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<v Speaker 1>had just started, um Mork and Mindy was about to

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<v Speaker 1>change things. Charlie's Angels was getting huge. It basically television

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<v Speaker 1>as we knew it from two whenever the real world

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<v Speaker 1>came along. Just escape as television is what they called

0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.040
<v Speaker 1>it was was starting and it was the hip new thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, if they had turned Han Solo and Princess

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<v Speaker 1>Leiah and Luke Skywalker into maybe you know, sexy detectives,

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<v Speaker 1>it might have gone over even better. But they went

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<v Speaker 1>the other way. They decided to latch onto this extraordinarily

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<v Speaker 1>stale um genre of television and they hired the best

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<v Speaker 1>in the business, like there was there was. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a quote from I think Lenny RiPPs who was saying

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<v Speaker 1>like we had literally a dream team, a variety show

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<v Speaker 1>dream team, and everybody was good, but there were probably

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<v Speaker 1>no bad welders on the Titanic. He there. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>great quote. Yeah. The guy they hired to direct it

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<v Speaker 1>initially was a dude named David A. Coomba, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had made his name uh for Welcome to the Fillmore East.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a concert documentary with Van Mortrison, Van Morrison

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<v Speaker 1>and the Birds in nineteen seventy one, and he actually

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<v Speaker 1>was at usc Film School at the same time as Lucas,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they didn't know each other. And um, he

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<v Speaker 1>only ended up directing about three segments of the thing

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<v Speaker 1>before he quit. Yet before he walked off, some say

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<v Speaker 1>he was actually let go, but we'll get to him

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute and who replaced him. As as we

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<v Speaker 1>get along down this uh gross road, well, let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a little break because I'm I'm overly excited, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>ge alright, so we've established most of the main players.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll we'll get to a few more. We should point

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<v Speaker 1>out that um, Mark hamill And and Harrison Ford and

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<v Speaker 1>Carrie Fisher, Peter Mayhew, they had no grounds to refuse

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<v Speaker 1>to be on this basically, yeah, pretty much. They were

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<v Speaker 1>not huge, huge stars, yet they could throw their weight

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<v Speaker 1>around and say this is terrible and I'm not doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>They were. They were big overnight because of Star Wars,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, but they weren't to the adoring public back

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<v Speaker 1>at the studio. They could still be bossed around. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is the result of it. And you can tell also, um,

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<v Speaker 1>just from watching the actual special, like Harrison Ford is

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<v Speaker 1>not happy to be there at any point. Um. Princess

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<v Speaker 1>Leiah is clearly on drugs. Uh was she on drugs

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<v Speaker 1>at this point? She if you watch it, she's she's

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<v Speaker 1>on drugs. Especially the ending scene Mark Campbell, it was

0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.240
<v Speaker 1>looks like he's happy to be there. Actually he was fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently he said no, I'm I'm not doing a

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<v Speaker 1>musical number. And if you watch his part wedging a

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<v Speaker 1>musical number in there would have been even more painful. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But they everybody who was part of the actual Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars franchise that wasn't wearing like a full body costume

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I really wish I wasn't here, And you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell, oh yeah. In fact, in the opening uh

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<v Speaker 1>credit sequence, they're showing the picture that you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>faces of the people, and you see Harrison Ford as

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<v Speaker 1>if he's flying the Millennium Falcon, and you can you

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<v Speaker 1>can just hear the guy off screen going now look

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<v Speaker 1>at the camera and just give a nod. Just look

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<v Speaker 1>at the camera and give a nod. And he finally

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell he's piste off and he looks up

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<v Speaker 1>at the camera just sort of smirks yeah and points

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<v Speaker 1>to the camera like okay, I'm looking at the camera,

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<v Speaker 1>and then goes back to what he's doing. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty awesome. I felt bad for him so early on

0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Valanche and others did you did you feel bad for him? Though? Really?

0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:17.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, come on, it's Harrison Ford's Hans Solo.

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<v Speaker 1>He has to go do this for like five days.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt terrible for him. I think it's hilarious that

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<v Speaker 1>they had to do this, especially now. Well, early on,

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<v Speaker 1>Valanche and others knew that they may be in trouble

0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:32.800
<v Speaker 1>because they decided not to subtitle any of the Wookie dialogue,

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<v Speaker 1>and they literally started after a brief opening scene setting

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<v Speaker 1>it up here. Here's the basic plot is Han Solo

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to get Chewbacca back to Kazook in time

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<v Speaker 1>for Life Day so we can celebrate with his family.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the basis of the entire two lass. The entire

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<v Speaker 1>two hours, they encounter a space battle and they're delayed,

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<v Speaker 1>and the next two hours are kind of what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on while the delay is happening back on Kazoo. Back

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<v Speaker 1>on Kazoo because you hear, like, okay, well, Han Solo

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<v Speaker 1>and Chewbacca evading the Imperial Guard and all that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>for two hours. I would watch that. I would too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what they show, killing time at the Wookie household.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what they show. Yeah, that's what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's people hanging out waiting for Chewbacca, worrying about him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then killing time while they wait for him to

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<v Speaker 1>come back. Literally, so um and so hold on. So

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<v Speaker 1>you say there's a setup, right, Yeah, that's the initial

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<v Speaker 1>setup and then chuck. That's followed by this. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>followed by literally ten minutes, ten solid minutes of incomprehensible

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<v Speaker 1>Wookie speak. So let's let's join it for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we. Let's all enjoy it. And again, you said

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes, and you're not exaggerating, you're not being hyperbolic.

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<v Speaker 1>You can time it. That's it's ten minutes of wook

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<v Speaker 1>He's talking to each other with no subtitles. Fortunately, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't follow it at first, like I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>who it was. I thought it was might have been

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<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca's mom and dad. Oh yeah, that's a little brother.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't find out until later when Mark Cambell

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<v Speaker 1>shows up via skype call and says, he really explains

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:05.440
<v Speaker 1>everything that had just happened, Like your Chewbacca's father, itchy,

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 1>your Chewbacca's son, Uh Lumpy Lumpy, and you're Chewbaca's wife,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh mama, yeah, thank you. So before everybody starts like

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<v Speaker 1>freaking out, we know that that's actually their nicknames. Their

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<v Speaker 1>real names are. His father is a ti chick cook,

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<v Speaker 1>a tchick cook it's really hard to pronounce. Mulatto buck

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<v Speaker 1>is his wife, and his son is Lumpo or rump

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>but as named by Lucas. But yeah, but Lucas also

0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 1>named him Lumpy Itchy and Mala so um. They're all

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<v Speaker 1>back there wringing their hands, trying to figure out ways

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<v Speaker 1>to pass the time until they get word from Chewbacca

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<v Speaker 1>that he's made it to uh what is it ketchuck

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<v Speaker 1>z kazook Um just ketchup ketchup or cats up if

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:59.240
<v Speaker 1>you're fancy um. But Chewbacca is having trouble getting back

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<v Speaker 1>to catch because there's Kazooki, because there's a blockade by

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<v Speaker 1>the Empire and they're looking for rebels, specifically Chewbacca. Who

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize this. He's the most famous Wookie of all.

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Did you know that? Yeah, of course I didn't know that. Well,

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's the only one that really appears in

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<v Speaker 1>the movies. I mean that we're seeing, like, you know,

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:23.920
<v Speaker 1>these people's view of the universe. What about back on

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<v Speaker 1>kazook Ye, he might have just been a fly by

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:31.440
<v Speaker 1>night wookie, right, yeah, but not the case very famous wookie. Yeah,

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and he really loved it, like soak in his fame. Alright,

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:37.920
<v Speaker 1>So he realizes there's a problem. Valanche. He goes to

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Lucas and it's like, I don't know, man, this is

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 1>your world, but it may not be the strongest thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do to set this in wookie Land and have

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<v Speaker 1>all this incomprehensible dialogue. And he says he was met

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<v Speaker 1>with a glacial stair. Uh. Well, he put it a

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.680
<v Speaker 1>little differently than that. Well, he said glacial stair. He did.

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.399
<v Speaker 1>The glacial stair that he got was for this quote.

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>He said, these people just talk and what sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>fat people having an orgasm. He goes, if you want,

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<v Speaker 1>you can set up a tape recorder in my bedroom

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'll do all of the follying for it. Yeah.

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:14.439
<v Speaker 1>He's a large guy, he is, so uh that's what

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<v Speaker 1>got the glacial stare. But Valanche later said that from this,

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>there was one development meeting that Lucas attended and it

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 1>was here's the Wookie Bible, tell me what you got.

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>And Valanche said he and the other writers and producers

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<v Speaker 1>and director were just kind of throwing ideas, and George

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Lucas would either say like, no, that doesn't work, give

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>him a glacial stare, or say, yes, that's exactly it. Yes,

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 1>let's make this a variety show. Yeah. And there was

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of um background there. The cantina players

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 1>in the band had appeared on other variety shows at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, and I think it went over a fairly well,

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>just as a short segment on like the Richard Pryor

0:25:55.960 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Variety Show or Donnie Marie um Man, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>variety shows. But that's what I'm saying. It was that

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<v Speaker 1>was television. That's what you did. Like the base um

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the the show had its course, and then it became

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 1>a variety show. It was just everybody love variety shows.

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:18.200
<v Speaker 1>By this time, though, everybody was sick of variety shows

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 1>and so it really was a terrible choice. In fact,

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>they even hired a couple of writers from Shields and Yarn, now,

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 1>which I hadn't heard of it. Oh yeah, I watched it.

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 1>It was creepy. This mind couple who had their own

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>variety show, and they figured these two will be great

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>because they are used to working without words, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>and so there is a certain logic to the variety show.

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>It's not that's just that variety shows were popular at

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the time. Somebody was like, well, Wookie's you don't understand

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>what they're saying. So this is all going to be

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>very physical. So these people who who did what is

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.160
<v Speaker 1>it shields in yard? Now, Yeah, that that's a perfect choice.

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>That that makes complete sense. You can see this whole,

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.120
<v Speaker 1>this whole process of leading up to the point where

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>it was produced and shot and everything. Yeah, a series

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>of like, oh, we have this problem, Well here's a fix,

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.119
<v Speaker 1>but that leads to another problem. Well we'll fix it

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>with this, and and no one stepping back and being like,

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>all we've done is create a series of problems that

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>are going to come together and make one extraordinarily large

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 1>problem that will become legendary. No one did that, and

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>so the whole thing was was made. That's right. And

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>it eventually airs on November sevent Friday at eight pm

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Eastern time. That's right, and Nielsen ratings it um attracted

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 1>thirteen million viewers. Just the second hour, just in the US.

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>It aired in six or seven countries total. Yeah, but

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>no one cares about that, I guess not because none

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>of those are on the internet, you know. Uh. It

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>finished second to The Love Boat in the second arm, sorry,

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 1>from eight to nine, and in the next hour actually

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.439
<v Speaker 1>finished behind part two with a mini series about Pearl

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Harbor starring Angie Dickinson. So it didn't even win their

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>respective hours. No, thirteen million, that's that's not bad. The

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.679
<v Speaker 1>thing is, apparently if you look at the Nielsen ratings

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>graph for the first hour, yeah we know about that graph,

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 1>It's okay, yeah, we do. And then after a very

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>important part, which we'll talk about soon. Um, it just

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>drops off at the end of the first hour, and

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>that actually probably made the executives at CBS cringe for

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>a number of reasons. Number one is this special was

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>originally supposed to just be an hour, but so many

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>advertisers wanted to sign on that they extended it to

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>two hours. And it shines through you can totally tell

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>that this thing was never supposed to I think an

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>hour might have been stretching it. To tell you the truth,

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>it's thirty minutes of content forty. If you're generous an

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 1>hour and then two hours, it becomes one of the

0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>worst things that was ever put on television. All right, well,

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>let's take a break and then we'll talk a little

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>bit more about the actual um uh he even I

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>don't want to call it content, but it is content

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>in the strictest definitions. Right after this, sorry, George. Alright,

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>So the show itself, we've given you the main plot line,

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>which again is that Chewy is trying to get back

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>to his home planet to celebrate life Day with this family. Right,

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>that's it, and again we almost barely see Chewy. Yeah,

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the rest is his family on because look waiting for

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>him to come back for a life Day. Yeah. So, um,

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>some of the various things they did, they were guest stars.

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>There was Harvey Corman from the Carol Burnett Show. Okay,

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>one of my all time favorites him or Carob Carol

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Barnet chef both. He's great. Yeah, he actually if you

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>watch what he's doing, you're like, this is comedy genius.

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>For apparently, he too was like the only one on

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>set that was bringing levity. He was joking around and

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of kept spirits up. Good for him. That's what

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I say. And he had three different three different parts. Yeah,

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>he played uh well, I don't even know the names.

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Actually we could look him up, but he played a

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>he played a Julia child like cook. There's an actual

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>cooking segment, a long one, a very long cooking segment

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>where Chewbacca's wife Um makes Banta stew to kill some time,

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>to kill some time because waiting on her planet and

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>in our living room. Yeah, so Harvey Corman is in

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>drag is a foe armed Julia child like uh TV

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 1>chef And I think it's Gormanda. Is her name Gormanda?

0:30:56.640 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>That makes total sense. He also plays Um. There's this

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>one weird bit where Chewbacca's son tries to figure out

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>a way to trick the stormtroopers that the Empire had

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>come and kind of because the blockade raided the house

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and other properties. So he tries to trick them by

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I think, rigging a calm link to speak in a

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>different voice. So he has to watch the instruction manual.

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>He watches an instruction video which was Harvey Kitel as

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>a robot. Oh, it would have been wonderful, little big

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Harvey Kitel. Harvey Carvey Corman man Harl murders someone in

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the instruction, Harvey Corman. And then the

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>final role he had was as a a bar patron

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>in the cantina that drinks. He has a hole in

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the top of his head like a volcano, where he

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>pours his drinks and that's how he drinks. And he

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>he loves be Arthur. Did we mention be Arthur was

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>in it? B Arthur is not only in it, Chuck.

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>She sings a song. She does. She is the hootbunnoutes

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to every one she manages or maybe owns. She's the owner. Yeah,

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 1>the what's the mas what moss deaf cantina? Uh no,

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>most deaf is a rapper. Oh yeah, I think you

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>mean Moss Eisley. Yes, yes, that cantina. She's the owner.

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Be Arthur is the owner be author of the Golden Girls,

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>but in this case the Arthur of Maud, because, as

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the people who wrote one of the articles

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>we based this on points out, she's just basically playing

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Maud as the owner of the cantina. Yeah, and her

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>song comes because um they basically say, there's a lockdown,

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>so you gotta call last call um at your bar.

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>So she calls last call by singing a song to everyone. Right,

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and again, we can't possibly have the script lead anywhere

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>else but Chewbacca's house while his family waits for it.

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>So all this takes place as part of a public

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>service announcement basically broadcast by the Empire about how immoral

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>life on tattoo Ween is. So let's go see what's

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>going on in the mas Eisley Cantina as it's being

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>shut down for curfew. Alright, this is incomprehensible, but it

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>goes on. Um, so they're in it. There's also Art Carney, Yes,

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>the Honeymooners family, the star of the whole thing. Really,

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>he has the most lines, I would say, the most

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>comprehensible line. Right. So he plays a trader, a human

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>trader um that is, uh recently been with Han Solo

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 1>and Chewy and actually gets to Kazook and says they're

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>on the way. It's all good. Yeah, a trader, not

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>trade toor Yeah, traders in trades humans for you know, money. No,

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>he he sells goods, yeah, a trader. He doesn't trade humans. Yeah,

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>he's in the human trade. He No, he isn't, really

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>he trades humans. Like he sells humans. I looked it

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>up in the Star Wars Encyclopedia said that he was

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>in the human trade. So in this Christmas special, apparently

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>they sanitized his his background because he's basically just selling

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 1>like gadgets and novelties and stuff like that to the

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:12.439
<v Speaker 1>Wookies and the Empire who were occupying the area. Yes,

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>he comes bearing gifts because he's a friend of Chewbacca's family. Yeah,

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 1>so he comes bearing gifts. One of the gifts he

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>gives is a UM sort of like a little digital

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>insert to a Oh, I guess you would call it

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 1>a virtual reality hair dryer, hair dryer, like a beauty

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 1>shop hair dryer. He gives it to Grandpa Itchy. Grandpa

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Itchy UM sits under this hair dryer, pops in this

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>uh digital cassette and it can only be described as

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 1>softcore porn. Apparently the writers who were interviewed for this

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 1>said that was totally the intent. They were trying to

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:55.800
<v Speaker 1>get what amounted to softcore porn that would pass the sensors.

0:34:56.200 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 1>So it's all m You can't even say is innuendo.

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 1>It's too obvious in overt for innuendo. Instead, it's just

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just gross. It's really gross. Um. Diane Carroll,

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Yes she is, Um, a Vegas staple shows up and

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>starts basically tantalizing. Um. Grandpa Itchy, who again, this is

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca's elderly father who now engages in some sort of

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>well he's he's watching virtual reality pornography now, and this

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 1>is a pretty lengthy segment in and of itself. Well yeah,

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 1>and she literally says to him, now I can see

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>her really excited. Yeah, it's pretty rough to watch. Yeah,

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>So then you've got another musical number because also again

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 1>he shutters, it's really strange. All right, So there's also

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>a I know, it seems like we're jumping around, but

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.359
<v Speaker 1>it's it's so bow not like this is pretty much

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>like blow for blow. Um. Actually I forgot earlier on

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>in the in the in the special, Um, there's one

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite sequences is when Grandpa Itchy goes over

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 1>to Lumpy and basically sets up remember the the hologram

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>chessboard that they played in A New Hope, basically kind

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>of sets that up and says, here, just play this.

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.760
<v Speaker 1>He pushes the button, which is clearly a nineteen seventies

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>cassette recorder and another uh, like it's like a cirque

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>de sol, a acid trip. Um gymnast routine happens in

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>front of the kid's eyes. And again this all just

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>it's not like it shows a snippet. They showed the

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>entire segments, like five six, ten minutes long of all

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.879
<v Speaker 1>of these things. So you would think, Okay, they've gone

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 1>to this hologram, well a couple of times, why not

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>go to it again? Well they do. They do to

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:54.360
<v Speaker 1>kill more time. While the Imperial Guard is ransacking their house.

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Um art Carney apparently, I guess it's trying to get

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>one of the Imperial Guard, the leader I think, or

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the leaders who looks like somebody from Spaceballs

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 1>by the way, very much so. Um. And the writer

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>of the Vanity Fair article, by the way said, um, this,

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 1>this is so incomprehensible. The specialist George Lucas didn't even

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>have the schwartz with him at the time. So anyway,

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>our Carney's distracting this uh imperial leader. Um, while they're

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 1>ransacking the Wookiees house Chewbacca's house with a hologram, and

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>this hologram instead of being an acrobat or Diane Carroll

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>or any kind of porn or anything like that is

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Jefferson Starship and they decide that they're going to play

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Light the Sky on Fire, which apparently is about UFOs.

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.439
<v Speaker 1>It's a little music video. Basically, it's a pretty Yeah,

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:48.479
<v Speaker 1>it's the predecessor to like video Kill the Radio Storry

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you can tell um. And again it is the whole

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 1>lengthy song, the whole thing. So every time that somebody's like,

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>we need to escape mentally from what's going on here

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 1>in our house, let's go into the video world, it's

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 1>not just and they don't cut back and forth. It's okay,

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 1>here's five minutes of Jefferson Starship performing this song. And

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 1>even the Jefferson Starship guys um were like, yeah, it's

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of a weird trip, Like we didn't get it,

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 1>but we did it right. They gave us some money

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>and some cocaine. Well probably, so we said, yeah, chuck,

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I think though, um, there yet another segment like this

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>is actually widely regarded as the high point of the

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. So there is a cartoon actually yeah that

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Lump Lump watch. Yeah, Lumpy's like the Imperial Guard is

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>still ransacking my house. I think I'll entertain myself by

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>watching a cartoon on my little Um, I don't know what.

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess it was an iPad and uh, he watches

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>this cartoon and it's it's actually remarkable for a number

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.720
<v Speaker 1>of reasons. It's the best part of the whole special

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>generally agreed upon as such, not just us. And it

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 1>introduces Boba Fett. It's the first time Boba fet ever

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.720
<v Speaker 1>makes an appearance in Star Wars universe. Yeah, it's actually

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>not a bad And you can't find it in the

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>the one version I told you to watch. They removed

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>it for copyright, but you didn't watch a separate version, right,

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you can find it on its own. Yeah, And it's Um,

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 1>it's very much reminiscent of like the cartoon style of

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the day, like a he Man or something even even,

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:28.760
<v Speaker 1>but it's even a little more artsy than that. Yeah.

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>But it does have a plot that you can follow

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense as a Star Wars thing, and it

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>introduces Boba Fett, like you said, And um, it's actually

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 1>not bad. It's like Luke and R two and C

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>three p O. Yeah, and there's like they crash on

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 1>a planet or something. Yeah, And Han and chew Ory

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you're in it, and it's the first time we see

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:48.280
<v Speaker 1>in Darth Vader. It's the first time we see Boba

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Fett and that he is, uh, that he is just

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 1>doing whatever he can do for money. Like Luke trusts

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.279
<v Speaker 1>him at first. C three pos like you sure you

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 1>should trust him this quick and he's like, oh, three

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 1>p o you and your non trusting ways, and then

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>it turns out he's selling them out to the dark side.

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's basically Boba Fett is an allegory for

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>George Lucas himself. Um, so the cartoon comes and goes,

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and that was the thing that came at about the

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>end of the first hour mark and after that everybody

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:22.320
<v Speaker 1>just turned off their television sets. Yeah, I don't remember.

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Did you watch this when it came up? Yeah? I

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>remember watching it, but I don't remember much about it,

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>like if I made it through it all. I mean

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>it was I was seven and it was on until ten,

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:33.799
<v Speaker 1>so I probably didn't make it through it all. Um,

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you're probably disturbed. Who knows. I just remember that. I

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:39.839
<v Speaker 1>have to ask my brother. He might have a memory

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>of this. Oh, Betty does I'm sure he met everybody

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>afterwards or something like that. You know, it has a picture.

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Well he was tin at that point, So cynicism had,

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, become a thing in his life probably by then,

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't that one Cynicism kicks in he Scott, holding out

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the fourteen fifteen Yeah maybe so so um, chuck, the

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 1>whole thing finally does. And and actually there's a guy

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>his name is Nathan Raban, he writes over at the

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.320
<v Speaker 1>A V Club. He had a great quote. He basically

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>said that one of the great redeeming values of this

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 1>um the special is that it does eventually end. Yeah,

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what the first part of the quote is,

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not convinced the special wasn't ultimately written and directed

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 1>by a sentient bag of cocaine. And like, go read

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 1>his his review of the Star Wars Holiday Special, because

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.399
<v Speaker 1>he goes on to describe exactly what that must have been,

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>like the development meeting where the bag of cocaine is

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 1>pacing back and forth talking about what should happen. That's

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>what it feels like. But it doesn't, and it ends

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.240
<v Speaker 1>even more. It takes this bizarre two hours and wraps

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>it up in just a nice bizarre bow. Yeah, so

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 1>what happens is eventually Han Solo should we say spoiler alert,

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Eventually Han Solo and chewe making to the planet. They

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 1>park on the far side of the planet because they

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 1>know the uh the Imperial forces are there and the

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 1>exercise will do uh chew week. Yeah, so they have

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>to hike over there. They eventually make it back home.

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:07.320
<v Speaker 1>They find a storm the stormtroopers at their house. Um,

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 1>their tree hut. Yeah, which the paintings that set this up,

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we mentioned I don't even call him

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Matt paintings that it looks like someone painted something on

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 1>the wall and they just like put a camera in

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 1>front of it pretty much. Yeah. So they get back

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 1>and um Chewbacca, Han Solo hides around the corner of

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca steps in front of his son to protect him.

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Han Solo jumps out, and the stormtrooper trips over a

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>pile of logs and falls over the balcony and dies

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 1>in a holiday special. So they wouldn't even not only

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 1>could he not shoot first with Grido, but they couldn't

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>even have him like wrestle the stormtrooper and throw him off.

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 1>He trips over a log and Han Solo has his

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 1>hands thrown up like wasn't me? It might as well

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 1>have been a banana peel, you know. But again, uh,

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 1>this is basically produced by vaudevillians starring vaudevillians. Why not

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:06.800
<v Speaker 1>have the one death take place from basically what amounts

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 1>to somebody slipping on a banana? Feel It's a perfect

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 1>way to end it. So that's uh that that guy

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 1>basically represents the end of the Imperial threat for the

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>rest of Life Day. And um, we we then see

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Life Day being celebrated, which is celebrated by lots of

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:30.720
<v Speaker 1>wookies assembling in what looks like a giant Olan Mills portrait. Um,

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and all of them are wearing red robes. And I

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 1>know I'm up talking, and it's because my mind is

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>still having trouble like wrapping around this. And then um,

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Princess Leia comes out with C three P O is

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Mark Hamill there, the whole gang zero from okay, the

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 1>whole gangs there, And then they all gather around to

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>hear a great quote from Princess Leia, which we will

0:43:55.560 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>read um verbatim. This holiday is yours, but we all

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 1>share with you the hope that this day brings us

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>closer to freedom and to harmony and to peace. No

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>matter how different we appear, we're all the same in

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 1>our struggle against the powers of evil and darkness. I

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>hope that this day will always be a day of

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 1>joy in which we can reconfirm our dedication and our courage,

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and more than anything else, our love for one another.

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>This is the promise of the Tree of Life que song, right,

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>and we should also point out the tree of Life

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 1>has never been mentioned up to this point. Makes a

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>sudden appearance at the end. And when you said que song,

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>by que song, you mean Princess Leiah starts singing. Yeah.

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 1>And apparently that was one of the big contingencies on

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Carrie Fisher being involved. She's going through a phase where

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 1>she was like, I kind of like singing. Bruce Valanche

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:49.360
<v Speaker 1>calls it her Joni Mitchell period. Yeah, and she somehow

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 1>convinced them to let her sing as Princess Leiah. And

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 1>she does. And again I've said that she looks like

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.479
<v Speaker 1>she's on drugs. This is the point where she really

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:00.200
<v Speaker 1>does look like she's on drugs. And it's not just

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 1>me Um other writers who've written reviews of this, it's

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 1>really obvious that she possibly smoked a decent amount of

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 1>pot before she shot this shot this scene, but she sings, Oh, okay,

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:19.279
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. It's just the fact that um, Princess Leigh

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>is singing. And actually, Bruce Valanche had a really great

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 1>quote too. He says that, um, she very much wanted

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>to show this side of her talent. And there was

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 1>general dismay because this was not what we wanted Princess

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Leia to be doing. She did it anyway. So the

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 1>whole thing ends with her singing this song about life day,

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:44.439
<v Speaker 1>which is set loosely to the John Williams Star Wars theme. Uh.

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:47.360
<v Speaker 1>So along the way, the director original director quit, A

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>new director, Steve Binder was hired to finish the job

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and bring it in. Uh. And he did over the

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:56.840
<v Speaker 1>original one million dollar budget, of course. Always Uh, he

0:45:56.920 --> 0:46:00.280
<v Speaker 1>did bring it in and um at this point George

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Lucas had uh. He was he was working on Empire

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Strikes Back. He didn't know what was going on. He

0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:08.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't around for the shoot. No, it wasn't until it aired.

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that he actually saw it. Yes, and it

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>was a travesty obviously, if you haven't noticed that by now,

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Critics hated it. Star Wars fans really hated it. Everybody

0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 1>hate The people who were in it hated it. Lucas

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:24.759
<v Speaker 1>hated it. Um, you've been Harvey Corman secretly hated it.

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Even Harvey Kitel hated Actually he loved it. But Lucas

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 1>has been asked over the years about it a lot,

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:34.759
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't talk about it much. But in two

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand five, and I don't buy this for a second,

0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 1>he says, Um, it was an interview, he said special

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 1>from I really didn't have much to do with us.

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 1>You know that part is true. I can't remember what

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>network it was even on, but it was a thing

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>that they did. That's a lie. There's no way he

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know. That was CBS. Uh. We kind of just

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>let them do it. I believe that it was done

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 1>by I can't even remember who the group was, but

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 1>they were variety TV guys. I'm sure he remembers a

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:04.879
<v Speaker 1>few of them. We let them use the characters and stuff,

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and that probably wasn't the smartest thing to do, but

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you learned from those experiences. I think they even use

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 1>some of the footage from the movie at the end.

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:16.280
<v Speaker 1>It looks like some of the space like a highlight

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:20.879
<v Speaker 1>reel the Gang Well, and during the UM it looked

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 1>like some of the they had some insert shots of

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:27.840
<v Speaker 1>like Imperial cruisers and Thai fighters and stuff that. Remember

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.879
<v Speaker 1>when when Chewbacca like leans back and puts his hands

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 1>behind it, that's in there. It's it's like a it's

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 1>just a highlight reel from the movie saying like I

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 1>feel like this, go see the movie. Well, and also

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>that means it doesn't match the look of the rest

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 1>of it at all. Yeah, that's true. It's just sort

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:46.320
<v Speaker 1>of inserted. They tried. They definitely tried UM, and George

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Lucas is totally full of it because in seven he

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 1>told star Log magazine that the Christmas Special would be

0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:56.720
<v Speaker 1>out on video cassette very soon, and in two thousand seven,

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:58.840
<v Speaker 1>two years after that quote, you just read where he's like,

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what you're talking about. Basically UM.

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 1>He apparently considered releasing the Christmas Special as a bonus

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:10.920
<v Speaker 1>on the UM the DVDs of the first three right,

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:14.240
<v Speaker 1>but did not didn't And apparently Carrie Fisher told Lucas

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:17.240
<v Speaker 1>that if you want me to do UM DVD extras

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 1>commentary commentary, then I want a clean original copy of

0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the Holiday special, So why go ahead so I can

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:29.359
<v Speaker 1>play at parties when I want people to leave. It's

0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty great. It is so uh And there is one

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 1>of those clean copies is floating around out there, so

0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you can watch this in it in its entirety. Some

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:41.759
<v Speaker 1>of it, like the cartoon, was removed due to copyright

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:44.880
<v Speaker 1>infringement and that kind of stuff, but as as the

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 1>case with the rest of the Internet, you can just

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>go find it elsewhere and piece it together. There's also

0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:55.879
<v Speaker 1>the original ads that aired in Baltimore that are just fascinating.

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Those are always fun GM ads where one of the

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:01.799
<v Speaker 1>guys who's in Quality can role is he says, did

0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:04.279
<v Speaker 1>you watch it? I don't think I saw that. He goes, um,

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 1>we really care about these cars and that's no job

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:11.239
<v Speaker 1>man on a GM and he's like they're trying to

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 1>be hip. Yeah. Um, it's a pretty good stuff. Here's

0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 1>my final thought on it. I love it. It does

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:21.680
<v Speaker 1>not taint my Star Wars experience or my love for

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:25.280
<v Speaker 1>the franchise, and I'm glad it is out there because

0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:30.120
<v Speaker 1>it it's a it's a fun little stain that shouldn't

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:34.880
<v Speaker 1>be taken too seriously. I think it adds to it actually,

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 1>because it's campy and awful, and I don't know somehow

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.759
<v Speaker 1>that enriches the rest of it. I'm with you, you

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:44.359
<v Speaker 1>like it? Oh yeah, I mean I watched it twice.

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't watch it a second I wouldn't have made

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 1>it through the first time. I let me take that back,

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 1>as I'm a pro, so I would have made it

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:52.400
<v Speaker 1>through the first time. I wouldn't have watched it a

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:54.879
<v Speaker 1>second time if I wasn't. There wasn't something about it,

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and I figured out. I think the thing that I

0:49:56.560 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 1>like the most about it is Lumpy, Chewbacca's son, played

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:04.680
<v Speaker 1>by an actress named Patty Maloney, who frankly is hands

0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 1>down the best actor in the entire thing. She like

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:12.520
<v Speaker 1>her responses and everything is just awesome. I think my

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>favorite parts are, uh, well, there's a great Wilhelm scream

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 1>trips over the law Jerry would not have noticed it.

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh And then there's a part where all the Wookie

0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 1>dialogue you can't understand, but there's clearly one part where

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:31.759
<v Speaker 1>we're Itchy and Lumpy are ha Any exchange where Lumpy

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you can make it out goes I love you? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I noticed that, but it's covered up. But someone was like,

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:40.719
<v Speaker 1>we have to have at least one exchange where you

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:43.360
<v Speaker 1>sort of know what they're saying, or they were like,

0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I think she said I love you. Should we have

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 1>them redo it? And then directors like, no, I want

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:50.279
<v Speaker 1>to go and Chuck. There's one other thing that I

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 1>figured out from watching this. It's not readily apparent. The

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:56.799
<v Speaker 1>whole thing is made all the more odd, and that

0:50:56.880 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>there's situation after situation after situation where we, as normal audiences,

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 1>were trained to expect the laugh track, but there's not

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 1>a laugh track. Had there been a laugh track, it

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:13.520
<v Speaker 1>what it might have been less bizarre. But the fact

0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:16.799
<v Speaker 1>that it's missing just makes your agitates the mind. So

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:19.440
<v Speaker 1>it's this whole additional element that it is weird. I

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:21.800
<v Speaker 1>never thought about that. There's just weird moments of silence

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 1>all throughout it. YEA like when Art Carney's doing his thing, Yeah,

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 1>telling jokes, Yeah, okay, I agree with you, Chuck, don't

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:30.960
<v Speaker 1>take things too seriously. I think that's the great lesson

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 1>in this. Yeah, and then it's the lesson of life

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 1>day it is and in two thousand seven, Riff tracks

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Great Mystery Science Theater. Three thousand guys Mike Nelson, Bill Corbett,

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and Kevin Murphy. Uh provided audio commentary for the full

0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:48.319
<v Speaker 1>version of the special, So try and go grab that

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:49.799
<v Speaker 1>if you can as well. So you can. It's on

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the site because it's great. I think it's like eight bucks.

0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:54.719
<v Speaker 1>And those guys are awesome and are at least I

0:51:54.760 --> 0:52:00.719
<v Speaker 1>think Corbett listens to us. So, hey, Corbett, you got

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:05.479
<v Speaker 1>anything else? No, No, I think we did this. There's

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 1>some good stuff. Go read the Vanity Fair article uh

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<v Speaker 1>Han Solo Comedy Hour. There's a book called How Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars Conquered the Universe that has a very interesting chapter

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<v Speaker 1>about this. That's where we found it asserted that George

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<v Speaker 1>Lucas never said that he would smash this thing with

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<v Speaker 1>a sledge hammer. Um. And there's also an entire website

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<v Speaker 1>Wars stuff on how stuff works by the way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we have cool um sort of fun articles about the

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<v Speaker 1>It will bring up some cool stuff for you. Since

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<v Speaker 1>I said search bar, its time for listener mail. Hey guys,

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<v Speaker 1>just finished listening to the Voyage Manuscript podcast. Found it's

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<v Speaker 1>super interesting, especially the theories on its definition or origin.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No. Josh mentioned Chuck Siria, but being drug induced

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<v Speaker 1>a somewhat surprising or even unlikely given the language in

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<v Speaker 1>the manuscript follows linguistic laws only founded in the past

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<v Speaker 1>one years. But if you think about it, it's a tough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough to stray away from familiar structures, especially for

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<v Speaker 1>by what we know. Uh So I just thought i'd

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<v Speaker 1>contribute that to the conversation. Than big thanks for all

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<v Speaker 1>We do that ch I love uh and then as

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