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Speaker 1: Ahoy, Solemn Life Day to you all. This is Josh

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Speaker 1: and for this week's s Y s K Selects. It's

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Speaker 1: our annual Christmas edition of the Star Wars Holiday Special.

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Speaker 1: Here to kick off your holiday season in grand style.

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Speaker 1: I know Life Day actually took place this year on

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Speaker 1: Novem but we wanted to wait to save it until

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Speaker 1: a little closer to Christmas to really put everybody in

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Speaker 1: the Christmas spirit. So here everyone is the Stuff You

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Speaker 1: Should Know annual holiday tradition of the listening of the

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Speaker 1: Star Wars Holiday Special episode Enjoy, Happy Holidays. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Stuff You Should Know, a production of My Heart Radios

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Speaker 1: How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuckers Bryant and Jerry Rome

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Speaker 1: role And uh, it was the Wookie mother. Yeah, Mala,

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Speaker 1: that was the Wookie wife. Oh and mother? Yeah sure,

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Speaker 1: Chewbacca's bomb is not with them any longer. She left,

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Speaker 1: she was not about to appear in that. She went

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Speaker 1: out the window. I'm excited about this. I have to

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Speaker 1: say we should say Happy Star Wars Day. Yeah. Today

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Speaker 1: is um December. Um, I have my opening night tickets?

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Speaker 1: Do you really sure? Wow? You know I do you

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Speaker 1: into it? Oh? Yeah, well I will definitely go see

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Speaker 1: it in the theater, but um, why won't be the

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Speaker 1: people talking about stuff all like, so I can I

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Speaker 1: could conceivably see this movie a month after it comes

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Speaker 1: out and still going fresh. I'm an ostrich. Yeah you

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Speaker 1: I've been there a while now. Uh well, Happy Star

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Speaker 1: Wars Day though, I'm sure that I think this pairs

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Speaker 1: nicely with Christmas Star Wars Day. It's all come together. Yes, Um,

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Speaker 1: we already missed Life Day though, so happy belated Life Day.

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Speaker 1: Are they celebrating it this year? Novemb Yeah, but it's

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Speaker 1: every three years? Mm hmm our cane man job. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so it's every three years started in nine eight. Let's

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Speaker 1: believe that two thousand fourteen was the last Life Day. Man,

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Speaker 1: we just missed, and then again in seventeen. Okay, so seen,

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Speaker 1: we'll celebrate Life Day. We'll put on our red robes

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Speaker 1: are ultralong straight ironed wigs, and we'll celebrate Life Day

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Speaker 1: the way it was meant to. Yes, And if you

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Speaker 1: have no idea what we're talking about, we are talking

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Speaker 1: about Life Day, which is a celebration, uh that Wookies

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Speaker 1: they also give gifts there like the Finns. Basically, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and director were just kind of throwing ideas, and George

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00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: Lucas would either say like, no, that doesn't work, give

422
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: him a glacial stare, or say, yes, that's exactly it. Yes,

423
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: let's make this a variety show. Yeah. And there was

424
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of um background there. The cantina players

425
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: in the band had appeared on other variety shows at

426
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 1: that point, and I think it went over a fairly well,

427
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: just as a short segment on like the Richard Pryor

428
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: Variety Show or Donnie Marie um Man, a lot of

429
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: variety shows. But that's what I'm saying. It was that

430
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: was television. That's what you did. Like the base um

431
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: the the show had its course, and then it became

432
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: a variety show. It was just everybody love variety shows.

433
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: By this time, though, everybody was sick of variety shows

434
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: and so it really was a terrible choice. In fact,

435
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: they even hired a couple of writers from Shields and Yarn, now,

436
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: which I hadn't heard of it. Oh yeah, I watched it.

437
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: It was creepy. This mind couple who had their own

438
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: variety show, and they figured these two will be great

439
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: because they are used to working without words, right, So,

440
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: and so there is a certain logic to the variety show.

441
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: It's not that's just that variety shows were popular at

442
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: the time. Somebody was like, well, Wookie's you don't understand

443
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: what they're saying. So this is all going to be

444
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: very physical. So these people who who did what is

445
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: it shields in yard? Now, Yeah, that that's a perfect choice.

446
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: That that makes complete sense. You can see this whole,

447
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: this whole process of leading up to the point where

448
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: it was produced and shot and everything. Yeah, a series

449
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: of like, oh, we have this problem, Well here's a fix,

450
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: but that leads to another problem. Well we'll fix it

451
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: with this, and and no one stepping back and being like,

452
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: all we've done is create a series of problems that

453
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: are going to come together and make one extraordinarily large

454
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: problem that will become legendary. No one did that, and

455
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: so the whole thing was was made. That's right. And

456
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: it eventually airs on November sevent Friday at eight pm

457
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: Eastern time. That's right, and Nielsen ratings it um attracted

458
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: thirteen million viewers. Just the second hour, just in the US.

459
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: It aired in six or seven countries total. Yeah, but

460
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: no one cares about that, I guess not because none

461
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: of those are on the internet, you know. Uh. It

462
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: finished second to The Love Boat in the second arm, sorry,

463
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: from eight to nine, and in the next hour actually

464
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: finished behind part two with a mini series about Pearl

465
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: Harbor starring Angie Dickinson. So it didn't even win their

466
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: respective hours. No, thirteen million, that's that's not bad. The

467
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: thing is, apparently if you look at the Nielsen ratings

468
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: graph for the first hour, yeah we know about that graph,

469
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: It's okay, yeah, we do. And then after a very

470
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: important part, which we'll talk about soon. Um, it just

471
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: drops off at the end of the first hour, and

472
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: that actually probably made the executives at CBS cringe for

473
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: a number of reasons. Number one is this special was

474
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: originally supposed to just be an hour, but so many

475
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: advertisers wanted to sign on that they extended it to

476
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: two hours. And it shines through you can totally tell

477
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: that this thing was never supposed to I think an

478
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: hour might have been stretching it. To tell you the truth,

479
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: it's thirty minutes of content forty. If you're generous an

480
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: hour and then two hours, it becomes one of the

481
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: worst things that was ever put on television. All right, well,

482
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: let's take a break and then we'll talk a little

483
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: bit more about the actual um uh he even I

484
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: don't want to call it content, but it is content

485
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: in the strictest definitions. Right after this, sorry, George. Alright,

486
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: So the show itself, we've given you the main plot line,

487
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: which again is that Chewy is trying to get back

488
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: to his home planet to celebrate life Day with this family. Right,

489
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: that's it, and again we almost barely see Chewy. Yeah,

490
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: the rest is his family on because look waiting for

491
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: him to come back for a life Day. Yeah. So, um,

492
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: some of the various things they did, they were guest stars.

493
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: There was Harvey Corman from the Carol Burnett Show. Okay,

494
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: one of my all time favorites him or Carob Carol

495
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: Barnet chef both. He's great. Yeah, he actually if you

496
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: watch what he's doing, you're like, this is comedy genius.

497
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: For apparently, he too was like the only one on

498
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: set that was bringing levity. He was joking around and

499
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: kind of kept spirits up. Good for him. That's what

500
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: I say. And he had three different three different parts. Yeah,

501
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: he played uh well, I don't even know the names.

502
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: Actually we could look him up, but he played a

503
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: he played a Julia child like cook. There's an actual

504
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: cooking segment, a long one, a very long cooking segment

505
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: where Chewbacca's wife Um makes Banta stew to kill some time,

506
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: to kill some time because waiting on her planet and

507
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: in our living room. Yeah, so Harvey Corman is in

508
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: drag is a foe armed Julia child like uh TV

509
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: chef And I think it's Gormanda. Is her name Gormanda?

510
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: That makes total sense. He also plays Um. There's this

511
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: one weird bit where Chewbacca's son tries to figure out

512
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: a way to trick the stormtroopers that the Empire had

513
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: come and kind of because the blockade raided the house

514
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: and other properties. So he tries to trick them by

515
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: I think, rigging a calm link to speak in a

516
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: different voice. So he has to watch the instruction manual.

517
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: He watches an instruction video which was Harvey Kitel as

518
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: a robot. Oh, it would have been wonderful, little big

519
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: Harvey Kitel. Harvey Carvey Corman man Harl murders someone in

520
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: the middle of the instruction, Harvey Corman. And then the

521
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: final role he had was as a a bar patron

522
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: in the cantina that drinks. He has a hole in

523
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: the top of his head like a volcano, where he

524
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: pours his drinks and that's how he drinks. And he

525
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: he loves be Arthur. Did we mention be Arthur was

526
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: in it? B Arthur is not only in it, Chuck.

527
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: She sings a song. She does. She is the hootbunnoutes

528
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: to every one she manages or maybe owns. She's the owner. Yeah,

529
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: the what's the mas what moss deaf cantina? Uh no,

530
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: most deaf is a rapper. Oh yeah, I think you

531
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: mean Moss Eisley. Yes, yes, that cantina. She's the owner.

532
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: Be Arthur is the owner be author of the Golden Girls,

533
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: but in this case the Arthur of Maud, because, as

534
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: one of the people who wrote one of the articles

535
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: we based this on points out, she's just basically playing

536
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: Maud as the owner of the cantina. Yeah, and her

537
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: song comes because um they basically say, there's a lockdown,

538
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: so you gotta call last call um at your bar.

539
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: So she calls last call by singing a song to everyone. Right,

540
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: and again, we can't possibly have the script lead anywhere

541
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: else but Chewbacca's house while his family waits for it.

542
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: So all this takes place as part of a public

543
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: service announcement basically broadcast by the Empire about how immoral

544
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: life on tattoo Ween is. So let's go see what's

545
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: going on in the mas Eisley Cantina as it's being

546
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: shut down for curfew. Alright, this is incomprehensible, but it

547
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: goes on. Um, so they're in it. There's also Art Carney, Yes,

548
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: the Honeymooners family, the star of the whole thing. Really,

549
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: he has the most lines, I would say, the most

550
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: comprehensible line. Right. So he plays a trader, a human

551
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: trader um that is, uh recently been with Han Solo

552
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: and Chewy and actually gets to Kazook and says they're

553
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: on the way. It's all good. Yeah, a trader, not

554
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: trade toor Yeah, traders in trades humans for you know, money. No,

555
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: he he sells goods, yeah, a trader. He doesn't trade humans. Yeah,

556
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: he's in the human trade. He No, he isn't, really

557
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: he trades humans. Like he sells humans. I looked it

558
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: up in the Star Wars Encyclopedia said that he was

559
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: in the human trade. So in this Christmas special, apparently

560
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: they sanitized his his background because he's basically just selling

561
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: like gadgets and novelties and stuff like that to the

562
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: Wookies and the Empire who were occupying the area. Yes,

563
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: he comes bearing gifts because he's a friend of Chewbacca's family. Yeah,

564
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: so he comes bearing gifts. One of the gifts he

565
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: gives is a UM sort of like a little digital

566
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: insert to a Oh, I guess you would call it

567
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: a virtual reality hair dryer, hair dryer, like a beauty

568
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: shop hair dryer. He gives it to Grandpa Itchy. Grandpa

569
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: Itchy UM sits under this hair dryer, pops in this

570
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: uh digital cassette and it can only be described as

571
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: softcore porn. Apparently the writers who were interviewed for this

572
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: said that was totally the intent. They were trying to

573
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: get what amounted to softcore porn that would pass the sensors.

574
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: So it's all m You can't even say is innuendo.

575
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: It's too obvious in overt for innuendo. Instead, it's just

576
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: it's just it's just gross. It's really gross. Um. Diane Carroll,

577
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: Yes she is, Um, a Vegas staple shows up and

578
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: starts basically tantalizing. Um. Grandpa Itchy, who again, this is

579
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: Chewbacca's elderly father who now engages in some sort of

580
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: well he's he's watching virtual reality pornography now, and this

581
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: is a pretty lengthy segment in and of itself. Well yeah,

582
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: and she literally says to him, now I can see

583
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: her really excited. Yeah, it's pretty rough to watch. Yeah,

584
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: So then you've got another musical number because also again

585
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: he shutters, it's really strange. All right, So there's also

586
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: a I know, it seems like we're jumping around, but

587
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: it's it's so bow not like this is pretty much

588
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: like blow for blow. Um. Actually I forgot earlier on

589
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: in the in the in the special, Um, there's one

590
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: of my favorite sequences is when Grandpa Itchy goes over

591
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: to Lumpy and basically sets up remember the the hologram

592
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: chessboard that they played in A New Hope, basically kind

593
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: of sets that up and says, here, just play this.

594
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: He pushes the button, which is clearly a nineteen seventies

595
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: cassette recorder and another uh, like it's like a cirque

596
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: de sol, a acid trip. Um gymnast routine happens in

597
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: front of the kid's eyes. And again this all just

598
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: it's not like it shows a snippet. They showed the

599
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: entire segments, like five six, ten minutes long of all

600
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: of these things. So you would think, Okay, they've gone

601
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: to this hologram, well a couple of times, why not

602
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: go to it again? Well they do. They do to

603
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: kill more time. While the Imperial Guard is ransacking their house.

604
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: Um art Carney apparently, I guess it's trying to get

605
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: one of the Imperial Guard, the leader I think, or

606
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: one of the leaders who looks like somebody from Spaceballs

607
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: by the way, very much so. Um. And the writer

608
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: of the Vanity Fair article, by the way said, um, this,

609
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: this is so incomprehensible. The specialist George Lucas didn't even

610
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: have the schwartz with him at the time. So anyway,

611
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: our Carney's distracting this uh imperial leader. Um, while they're

612
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: ransacking the Wookiees house Chewbacca's house with a hologram, and

613
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: this hologram instead of being an acrobat or Diane Carroll

614
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: or any kind of porn or anything like that is

615
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: Jefferson Starship and they decide that they're going to play

616
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: Light the Sky on Fire, which apparently is about UFOs.

617
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: It's a little music video. Basically, it's a pretty Yeah,

618
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 1: it's the predecessor to like video Kill the Radio Storry

619
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: you can tell um. And again it is the whole

620
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: lengthy song, the whole thing. So every time that somebody's like,

621
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: we need to escape mentally from what's going on here

622
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: in our house, let's go into the video world, it's

623
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: not just and they don't cut back and forth. It's okay,

624
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: here's five minutes of Jefferson Starship performing this song. And

625
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: even the Jefferson Starship guys um were like, yeah, it's

626
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: sort of a weird trip, Like we didn't get it,

627
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: but we did it right. They gave us some money

628
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: and some cocaine. Well probably, so we said, yeah, chuck,

629
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: I think though, um, there yet another segment like this

630
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: is actually widely regarded as the high point of the

631
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: whole thing. So there is a cartoon actually yeah that

632
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: Lump Lump watch. Yeah, Lumpy's like the Imperial Guard is

633
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: still ransacking my house. I think I'll entertain myself by

634
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: watching a cartoon on my little Um, I don't know what.

635
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: I guess it was an iPad and uh, he watches

636
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: this cartoon and it's it's actually remarkable for a number

637
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: of reasons. It's the best part of the whole special

638
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: generally agreed upon as such, not just us. And it

639
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: introduces Boba Fett. It's the first time Boba fet ever

640
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: makes an appearance in Star Wars universe. Yeah, it's actually

641
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: not a bad And you can't find it in the

642
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: the one version I told you to watch. They removed

643
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: it for copyright, but you didn't watch a separate version, right,

644
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: you can find it on its own. Yeah, And it's Um,

645
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: it's very much reminiscent of like the cartoon style of

646
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: the day, like a he Man or something even even,

647
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: but it's even a little more artsy than that. Yeah.

648
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: But it does have a plot that you can follow

649
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: that makes sense as a Star Wars thing, and it

650
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: introduces Boba Fett, like you said, And um, it's actually

651
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: not bad. It's like Luke and R two and C

652
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: three p O. Yeah, and there's like they crash on

653
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: a planet or something. Yeah, And Han and chew Ory

654
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: you're in it, and it's the first time we see

655
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 1: in Darth Vader. It's the first time we see Boba

656
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: Fett and that he is, uh, that he is just

657
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: doing whatever he can do for money. Like Luke trusts

658
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: him at first. C three pos like you sure you

659
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: should trust him this quick and he's like, oh, three

660
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: p o you and your non trusting ways, and then

661
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: it turns out he's selling them out to the dark side.

662
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: So it's it's basically Boba Fett is an allegory for

663
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: George Lucas himself. Um, so the cartoon comes and goes,

664
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: and that was the thing that came at about the

665
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: end of the first hour mark and after that everybody

666
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: just turned off their television sets. Yeah, I don't remember.

667
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: Did you watch this when it came up? Yeah? I

668
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: remember watching it, but I don't remember much about it,

669
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: like if I made it through it all. I mean

670
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: it was I was seven and it was on until ten,

671
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: so I probably didn't make it through it all. Um,

672
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: you're probably disturbed. Who knows. I just remember that. I

673
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: have to ask my brother. He might have a memory

674
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: of this. Oh, Betty does I'm sure he met everybody

675
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: afterwards or something like that. You know, it has a picture.

676
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: Well he was tin at that point, So cynicism had,

677
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: you know, become a thing in his life probably by then,

678
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: didn't that one Cynicism kicks in he Scott, holding out

679
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: the fourteen fifteen Yeah maybe so so um, chuck, the

680
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: whole thing finally does. And and actually there's a guy

681
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: his name is Nathan Raban, he writes over at the

682
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: A V Club. He had a great quote. He basically

683
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: said that one of the great redeeming values of this

684
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: um the special is that it does eventually end. Yeah,

685
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: you know what the first part of the quote is,

686
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced the special wasn't ultimately written and directed

687
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: by a sentient bag of cocaine. And like, go read

688
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: his his review of the Star Wars Holiday Special, because

689
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: he goes on to describe exactly what that must have been,

690
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: like the development meeting where the bag of cocaine is

691
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: pacing back and forth talking about what should happen. That's

692
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: what it feels like. But it doesn't, and it ends

693
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: even more. It takes this bizarre two hours and wraps

694
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: it up in just a nice bizarre bow. Yeah, so

695
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: what happens is eventually Han Solo should we say spoiler alert,

696
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: Eventually Han Solo and chewe making to the planet. They

697
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: park on the far side of the planet because they

698
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: know the uh the Imperial forces are there and the

699
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: exercise will do uh chew week. Yeah, so they have

700
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: to hike over there. They eventually make it back home.

701
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: They find a storm the stormtroopers at their house. Um,

702
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: their tree hut. Yeah, which the paintings that set this up,

703
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't think we mentioned I don't even call him

704
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: Matt paintings that it looks like someone painted something on

705
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: the wall and they just like put a camera in

706
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: front of it pretty much. Yeah. So they get back

707
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: and um Chewbacca, Han Solo hides around the corner of

708
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: Chewbacca steps in front of his son to protect him.

709
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: Han Solo jumps out, and the stormtrooper trips over a

710
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: pile of logs and falls over the balcony and dies

711
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: in a holiday special. So they wouldn't even not only

712
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: could he not shoot first with Grido, but they couldn't

713
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: even have him like wrestle the stormtrooper and throw him off.

714
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: He trips over a log and Han Solo has his

715
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: hands thrown up like wasn't me? It might as well

716
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: have been a banana peel, you know. But again, uh,

717
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: this is basically produced by vaudevillians starring vaudevillians. Why not

718
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: have the one death take place from basically what amounts

719
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: to somebody slipping on a banana? Feel It's a perfect

720
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: way to end it. So that's uh that that guy

721
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: basically represents the end of the Imperial threat for the

722
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: rest of Life Day. And um, we we then see

723
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: Life Day being celebrated, which is celebrated by lots of

724
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 1: wookies assembling in what looks like a giant Olan Mills portrait. Um,

725
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: and all of them are wearing red robes. And I

726
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: know I'm up talking, and it's because my mind is

727
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: still having trouble like wrapping around this. And then um,

728
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: Princess Leia comes out with C three P O is

729
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: Mark Hamill there, the whole gang zero from okay, the

730
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: whole gangs there, And then they all gather around to

731
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: hear a great quote from Princess Leia, which we will

732
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: read um verbatim. This holiday is yours, but we all

733
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: share with you the hope that this day brings us

734
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: closer to freedom and to harmony and to peace. No

735
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: matter how different we appear, we're all the same in

736
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: our struggle against the powers of evil and darkness. I

737
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: hope that this day will always be a day of

738
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: joy in which we can reconfirm our dedication and our courage,

739
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: and more than anything else, our love for one another.

740
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: This is the promise of the Tree of Life que song, right,

741
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: and we should also point out the tree of Life

742
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: has never been mentioned up to this point. Makes a

743
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: sudden appearance at the end. And when you said que song,

744
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: by que song, you mean Princess Leiah starts singing. Yeah.

745
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: And apparently that was one of the big contingencies on

746
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: Carrie Fisher being involved. She's going through a phase where

747
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: she was like, I kind of like singing. Bruce Valanche

748
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: calls it her Joni Mitchell period. Yeah, and she somehow

749
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: convinced them to let her sing as Princess Leiah. And

750
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: she does. And again I've said that she looks like

751
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 1: she's on drugs. This is the point where she really

752
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: does look like she's on drugs. And it's not just

753
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: me Um other writers who've written reviews of this, it's

754
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: really obvious that she possibly smoked a decent amount of

755
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: pot before she shot this shot this scene, but she sings, Oh, okay,

756
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: it's fine. It's just the fact that um, Princess Leigh

757
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: is singing. And actually, Bruce Valanche had a really great

758
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: quote too. He says that, um, she very much wanted

759
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: to show this side of her talent. And there was

760
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: general dismay because this was not what we wanted Princess

761
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: Leia to be doing. She did it anyway. So the

762
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: whole thing ends with her singing this song about life day,

763
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 1: which is set loosely to the John Williams Star Wars theme. Uh.

764
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: So along the way, the director original director quit, A

765
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: new director, Steve Binder was hired to finish the job

766
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: and bring it in. Uh. And he did over the

767
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: original one million dollar budget, of course. Always Uh, he

768
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 1: did bring it in and um at this point George

769
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: Lucas had uh. He was he was working on Empire

770
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: Strikes Back. He didn't know what was going on. He

771
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: wasn't around for the shoot. No, it wasn't until it aired.

772
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: I think that he actually saw it. Yes, and it

773
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: was a travesty obviously, if you haven't noticed that by now,

774
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: Critics hated it. Star Wars fans really hated it. Everybody

775
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: hate The people who were in it hated it. Lucas

776
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: hated it. Um, you've been Harvey Corman secretly hated it.

777
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: Even Harvey Kitel hated Actually he loved it. But Lucas

778
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: has been asked over the years about it a lot,

779
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: and he doesn't talk about it much. But in two

780
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: thousand five, and I don't buy this for a second,

781
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: he says, Um, it was an interview, he said special

782
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: from I really didn't have much to do with us.

783
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: You know that part is true. I can't remember what

784
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: network it was even on, but it was a thing

785
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: that they did. That's a lie. There's no way he

786
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: doesn't know. That was CBS. Uh. We kind of just

787
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: let them do it. I believe that it was done

788
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: by I can't even remember who the group was, but

789
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: they were variety TV guys. I'm sure he remembers a

790
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: few of them. We let them use the characters and stuff,

791
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: and that probably wasn't the smartest thing to do, but

792
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: you learned from those experiences. I think they even use

793
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: some of the footage from the movie at the end.

794
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: It looks like some of the space like a highlight

795
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: reel the Gang Well, and during the UM it looked

796
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: like some of the they had some insert shots of

797
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: like Imperial cruisers and Thai fighters and stuff that. Remember

798
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: when when Chewbacca like leans back and puts his hands

799
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: behind it, that's in there. It's it's like a it's

800
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: just a highlight reel from the movie saying like I

801
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: feel like this, go see the movie. Well, and also

802
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: that means it doesn't match the look of the rest

803
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: of it at all. Yeah, that's true. It's just sort

804
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: of inserted. They tried. They definitely tried UM, and George

805
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: Lucas is totally full of it because in seven he

806
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: told star Log magazine that the Christmas Special would be

807
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: out on video cassette very soon, and in two thousand seven,

808
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: two years after that quote, you just read where he's like,

809
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: I don't even know what you're talking about. Basically UM.

810
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: He apparently considered releasing the Christmas Special as a bonus

811
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: on the UM the DVDs of the first three right,

812
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 1: but did not didn't And apparently Carrie Fisher told Lucas

813
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 1: that if you want me to do UM DVD extras

814
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: commentary commentary, then I want a clean original copy of

815
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: the Holiday special, So why go ahead so I can

816
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: play at parties when I want people to leave. It's

817
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: pretty great. It is so uh And there is one

818
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: of those clean copies is floating around out there, so

819
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: you can watch this in it in its entirety. Some

820
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: of it, like the cartoon, was removed due to copyright

821
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: infringement and that kind of stuff, but as as the

822
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: case with the rest of the Internet, you can just

823
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: go find it elsewhere and piece it together. There's also

824
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 1: the original ads that aired in Baltimore that are just fascinating.

825
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: Those are always fun GM ads where one of the

826
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: guys who's in Quality can role is he says, did

827
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: you watch it? I don't think I saw that. He goes, um,

828
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: we really care about these cars and that's no job

829
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: man on a GM and he's like they're trying to

830
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: be hip. Yeah. Um, it's a pretty good stuff. Here's

831
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: my final thought on it. I love it. It does

832
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: not taint my Star Wars experience or my love for

833
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: the franchise, and I'm glad it is out there because

834
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: it it's a it's a fun little stain that shouldn't

835
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: be taken too seriously. I think it adds to it actually,

836
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: because it's campy and awful, and I don't know somehow

837
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: that enriches the rest of it. I'm with you, you

838
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: like it? Oh yeah, I mean I watched it twice.

839
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't watch it a second I wouldn't have made

840
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: it through the first time. I let me take that back,

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Speaker 1: second time if I wasn't. There wasn't something about it,

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Speaker 1: by an actress named Patty Maloney, who frankly is hands

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Speaker 1: down the best actor in the entire thing. She like

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Speaker 1: Uh And then there's a part where all the Wookie

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Speaker 1: you can make it out goes I love you? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I noticed that, but it's covered up. But someone was like,

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Speaker 1: I think she said I love you. Should we have

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Speaker 1: them redo it? And then directors like, no, I want

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Speaker 1: to go and Chuck. There's one other thing that I

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Speaker 1: figured out from watching this. It's not readily apparent. The

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Speaker 1: whole thing is made all the more odd, and that

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Speaker 1: there's situation after situation after situation where we, as normal audiences,

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Speaker 1: what it might have been less bizarre. But the fact

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Speaker 1: it's this whole additional element that it is weird. I

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Speaker 1: never thought about that. There's just weird moments of silence

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Speaker 1: all throughout it. YEA like when Art Carney's doing his thing, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: telling jokes, Yeah, okay, I agree with you, Chuck, don't

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Speaker 1: take things too seriously. I think that's the great lesson

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Speaker 1: in this. Yeah, and then it's the lesson of life

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Speaker 1: day it is and in two thousand seven, Riff tracks

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Speaker 1: and Kevin Murphy. Uh provided audio commentary for the full

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Speaker 1: version of the special, So try and go grab that

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Speaker 1: if you can as well. So you can. It's on

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Speaker 1: And those guys are awesome and are at least I

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Speaker 1: think Corbett listens to us. So, hey, Corbett, you got

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Speaker 1: anything else? No, No, I think we did this. There's

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Speaker 1: some good stuff. Go read the Vanity Fair article uh

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Speaker 1: Han Solo Comedy Hour. There's a book called How Star

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Speaker 1: Wars Conquered the Universe that has a very interesting chapter

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Speaker 1: about this. That's where we found it asserted that George

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Speaker 1: Lucas never said that he would smash this thing with

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Speaker 1: just finished listening to the Voyage Manuscript podcast. Found it's

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Speaker 1: super interesting, especially the theories on its definition or origin.

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Speaker 1: Uh No. Josh mentioned Chuck Siria, but being drug induced

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