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Speaker 2: It is Monday, October twenty eighth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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Speaker 2: episode number fifty six. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 2: We'll wait?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, feel a little bit better educated about

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Speaker 3: what happened? Got you. I would just sleep like everybody here,

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Speaker 3: but gotta get up, educate myself and yeah, get ready

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Speaker 2: So you saw some film and I say, we got

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Speaker 2: a lot we'll get into. There are so many things

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Speaker 2: about that game. I think that that are worth discussing

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Speaker 2: because it was really a tale of multiple quarters, like

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Speaker 2: there were just serious, serious, Yeah, you're talking about these

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Speaker 2: wild shifts from very very poor football play to very

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Speaker 2: very good football play that happened throughout that game. And

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Speaker 2: we'll get into all of it. I know what ambers

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Speaker 2: feelings are. I could tell by the way she was

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Speaker 2: on the plane last night. This ain't gonna be good.

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Speaker 2: But remember remember just pace yourself, all right. Take deep breaths, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: take deep breaths. Let's start first. Obviously, Cowboys get the

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Speaker 2: loss last night, they lose thirty to twenty four on

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Speaker 2: the road on Sunday Night football. Let's start with storylines

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Speaker 2: of the game. What was the biggest storyline. I'll start

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Speaker 2: off with you, Brian.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple of things that I just the

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Speaker 3: really bad third quarter of offense I think set you back.

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Speaker 3: The three and outs. Mike addressed it last night postgame,

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Speaker 3: talking about just didn't really give your defense any kind

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Speaker 3: as we all understand, is being held together with gorilla

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Speaker 3: tape and baling wire right now, you know, with the

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Speaker 3: way they're trying to play. The bad third quarter of offense,

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Speaker 3: I think really really affected you in that second half there.

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Speaker 3: They didn't have a really great plan for how to

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Speaker 3: deal with Kittle. And this is what bothers me the most.

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Speaker 3: And we talk about Amber always ask about practicing and

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Speaker 3: things like that. You know, you go into a game

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Speaker 3: kind of understanding that they're limited, maybe in some of

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Speaker 3: No Brandon Nyuk, you know, Deebo Samuel has having to

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Speaker 3: go to the sidelines every other play basically to kind

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Speaker 3: of catch his breath. But it's George Kittle, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's Kittle. It's Mason. Mason gets hurt with a shoulder

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Speaker 3: Garrindo though, if you watch the Draft Show, and Derek,

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Speaker 3: thank you for letting us have the Draft Show every

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Speaker 3: year because we talked about we talk about these types

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Speaker 3: their ability to run the football. That was not gonna

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Speaker 3: be a problem. But you didn't handle the Kittle situation

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Speaker 3: all that well. Donovan Wilson against Kittle is we all

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Speaker 3: saw as not a good, uh, not a very good

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Speaker 3: matchup at all, you know, especially if you allow Kittle

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Speaker 3: Donovan Wilson. What was the adjustment late in the game

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Speaker 3: New England versus Dallas, I am not letting Jason Witten

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Speaker 3: one time they've got it screen defensed really well. He

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Speaker 6: Just taking a deep breath, Like my heart starts beating

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Speaker 6: so fast every time we go back, if we get

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Speaker 6: back from games like these. And Brian is absolutely right

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Speaker 6: on everything he said for what no, but on the defense.

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Speaker 6: But to Amber, yeah, right, no, you're right with everything

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Speaker 6: from you should have won that game. You should have

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Speaker 6: very close. The defense gave you what they could give you,

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Speaker 6: And what is more, the reason why I get so

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Speaker 6: just I've been defending him his whole career, but I'm

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Speaker 6: at a point where I don't know what else to say, Like,

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Speaker 6: I can't I can't find anything positive right now. And

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Speaker 6: but there are so many players where that's all on Dak,

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Speaker 6: that's all on him making the decisions that he's made.

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Speaker 6: And again you mentioned him using his feet. What the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be going back to when we were

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to hear his thoughts on that,

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Speaker 2: And obviously I don't want to make that declaration because

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Speaker 2: his game has always been predicated on Yeah, you can

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Speaker 2: That is now flipped and he's kind of taken away

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Speaker 2: the same thing for Dak individually in his game. I

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Speaker 2: And I'm just interested to know why we aren't seeing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just maybe I could say when we started

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Speaker 2: let's talk about the running game. We find out roughly

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Speaker 2: He had been elevated on Saturday. You look at it,

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Speaker 6: that are on film and during the game day. So

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Speaker 6: it just seems that we keep waiting so long to

435
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 6: make certain decisions or to even find certain things out

436
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 6: to the point where okay, now you're sitting here wondering,

437
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 6: like the little hope that you had in this guy

438
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 6: that was sitting in your practice squad now completely diminished.

439
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 6: But again, I think the problem goes beyond who the

440
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 6: running back is. I think this is just a collective

441
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 6: thing with what the old line is doing. And I

442
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 6: feel like even going back to last year, we saw

443
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 6: different running backs. Even with ton Tony Poehler, we knew

444
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 6: that he could get the ball going and run, but

445
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 6: it still wasn't happening. So I think there's a of course,

446
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 6: a good running back. You bring it in here, obviously

447
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 6: it's gonna show up some things. But I don't think

448
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 6: that one person is just going to magically change to

449
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 6: the running game for you.

450
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that to me when you look at it,

451
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: these running backs are kind of all the same. I

452
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 3: think Rico dadd will probably better. You know, and I

453
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: shouldn't say all the same, but running styles very similar.

454
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: You don't really have an explosive back that that, you know,

455
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 3: I mean, Grindo for them is got some explosiveness when

456
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 3: you know when and and you know Dallas in that

457
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: game last night, weren't you know usually they they they

458
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 3: teams just don't respect their run. They play light box

459
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 3: against them. They played neutral box, which much six you

460
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: know you're talking about, you know, six or fewer defenders

461
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: down in there for the light ones, seven defenders or

462
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 3: less for the you know, the neutral ones. And that's

463
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: what they got last night. And you know, if you

464
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 3: look at Ezekiel Elliott, his success was when they played

465
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 3: six or less in the box. And so, you know,

466
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: Dallas just is having having a little bit of some

467
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 3: issues and a little and I and I say it

468
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 3: with the respect of what you know, Cooper Bebe is

469
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: getting better as a run blocker. Last night he actually

470
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 3: showed more of the pushing his guy to the next

471
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 3: guy and then getting up. You know, but there were

472
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Speaker 3: a couple of runs where they just didn't block Fred

473
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Speaker 3: Warner and you're like going, wait a minute, how can

474
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,239
Speaker 3: you have a running play if you don't block the

475
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 3: best run defender. I think there's some there's some scheme

476
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 3: things that they're not really good at right now. I

477
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 3: think they're struggling with some of the combination blocks, the

478
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 3: second level blocks, the tight end blocks. You know, you

479
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: could maybe have EMMITTT. Smith back. They're running the ball

480
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 3: and it probably wouldn't matter right now. You just don't

481
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: have anything that you could really, you know, hang your

482
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 3: hat on and say, okay, if Dallas had to call

483
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: this running play, they'd get four yards. You know. They

484
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 3: just don't have that. There's always there's just something always

485
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,719
Speaker 3: breaks down for them. Sometimes the backs don't see the holes.

486
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: Sometimes they don't block the mic linebacker. Sometimes they don't

487
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: get the point of attack block with the tight end.

488
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 3: You know. That's Other teams have issues, but not to

489
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: the level of the Cowboys have right now.

490
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. I look at this offensive

491
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 2: line and I think three of the five positions are

492
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: playing below the standard of what I would have expected

493
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: for them. Sure, particularly the right hand side, right guard,

494
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 2: right tackle, and then the left tackle. At this point, like,

495
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: is this a situation I know where I know.

496
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Speaker 3: The left tackle wasn't terrible last night. Yeah, he wasn't

497
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: as pass blocker, it was really it was. It was

498
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 3: very refreshing that they tried to help him some. But

499
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to me, but it was nice to see.

500
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: I was worried for jailbreak. I was ready for just

501
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: up the field, up the field.

502
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Speaker 2: And I only saw that once or twice.

503
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he was. His technique was much better, his hands,

504
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: his feet, you know, I mean, he wasn't in bad

505
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 3: body position, So that part of it was encouraging for me. Yesterday. Yep.

506
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: I look at this offensive line and I'm starting to wonder.

507
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: Now.

508
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: I know Dak has to take accountability for it, because

509
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: ultimately he's the quarterback. But I do think what I'm

510
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 2: seeing right now from Dak is uncharacteristic. This is not

511
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: what Dak typically is. And I do wonder how much

512
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: the pressure has gotten to him. I want any pressure,

513
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: I mean the pressure the pass rush has gotten to him.

514
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 2: Not there, Yes, the pass rush. I wonder how much

515
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: it's gotten to the point where And you see this quarterbacks,

516
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: sometimes you're under duress so much that you start feeling

517
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 2: deressed before it's even there. Sometimes and you press and

518
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 2: you try to get the ball out a lot quicker.

519
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: You sometimes make ill you know, ill designed throws because

520
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: you're afraid the pressure is going to get there. And

521
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: I wonder how much the offensive line and the woes

522
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: of the offensive line are affecting Dak in the passing

523
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: game more than even just the miss blocks. What do

524
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 2: you guys think?

525
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Speaker 6: Well, see, I'm starting to get annoyed with that argument

526
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 6: because over the years, we've seen so many different like

527
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 6: literally everything has been changed around Dak. Like you've changed personnel,

528
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 6: you've changed coaches, you've changed had coaches, you've changed quarterbacks

529
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 6: coaches multiple times, Like there are so many different pieces

530
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 6: that have changed constantly around Dak in order to cater

531
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 6: the type of quarterback that he is. Now we're at

532
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 6: the point in this career where he should be able

533
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 6: to make the decisions like a veteran guy, decisions that

534
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 6: he's not making, and it goes beyond and maybe it

535
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 6: goes hand in hand maybe with the whole running situation

536
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 6: and maybe the mental aspect of it for whatever reason,

537
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 6: if that is coming back into his mind, the whole

538
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 6: injury situation. But again, thinking back of last year, we

539
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 6: did see multiple positive run plays from him, So whatever

540
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 6: happened in the summer where he was taking pictures wearing

541
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 6: that boot, maybe that's something that's completely affecting his game.

542
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 6: But even then, in some of those throws, like even

543
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 6: last night, and I was telling you, Derek, I'm like,

544
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 6: it just looks like he's just throwing the ball to

545
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 6: throw it, Like there is no sense of like confidence

546
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 6: or strategic or like sense of like he actually scanned

547
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 6: the field and has a hold of what is happening.

548
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 6: Some of those throws, it just looks like he just

549
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 6: he's just throwing it and hoping that he gets lucky.

550
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 6: So talking about your confidence, and I agree completely on

551
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 6: chrisped uncorrect, uncorrect, Help me out with the word uncharacteristic, sorry,

552
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 6: characteristic the thank you of him because we've seen him

553
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 6: time and time again, and one of his better qualities

554
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 6: throughout his career is how well he can keep his

555
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 6: composure as a quarterback and the mental aspect of things,

556
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 6: even like when they're trailing behind, he can come back

557
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 6: and just be focused. More often than not. It tends

558
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 6: to be too late, too little, too late for the Cowboys.

559
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 6: But whatever the reason is, maybe maybe we put it

560
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 6: on the on the foot out of I don't know,

561
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 6: or the practices. It just seems odd. And I don't

562
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 6: want to put all the blame on the offensive line

563
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 6: because there are many plays where I feel like he's

564
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 6: had a little bit of time and the decisions are

565
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 6: still bad.

566
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm not in any way trying to absolve

567
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: him of his responsibility in this because when you're making

568
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: the amount of money he's making. Guess what the responsibility

569
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: is yours? Figure it out. Like that's just the part

570
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: of it. We all know that, like the more you get,

571
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: the more the more you're compensated for what you do,

572
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: the more you got to be accountable for everything else

573
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: that happens around you. So I'm not absolving him of

574
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: his responsibilitiness. I am saying, though, that I think looking

575
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: at this offensive line, in my opinion, this is the

576
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: worst offensive line he's ever played behind since he's been

577
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: here with the Cowboys. And I think you're right he

578
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: should be able to But should and does is a

579
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: whole different thing. Maybe he's not able to overcome having

580
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: this level of offensive line and still be able to

581
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: be as productive as he's been in the past. That's

582
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: all the point I'm making is maybe what we're seeing

583
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: is that's not and a recipe that works, because, by

584
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: the way, these are not different players. Like Terrence Steel's

585
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: been here, he's just not playing at the level that

586
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: he once did. Traving I mean, I'm sorry I keep

587
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: on to call them Travis Frederick, Zach Martin has been here.

588
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: This is certainly not the level that he's played at.

589
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: So it's not that it's not that he's that they've

590
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: all of a sudden just you know, changed all the personnel.

591
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: It's that the personnel that they've had, that they've relied on,

592
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: that they've relied on for the last several years, just

593
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: isn't playing to the to the quality that you've come

594
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: to expect. And I wonder if that has affected the

595
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: quarterback's ability to be able to really stand in the

596
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: air and trust the fact that I know the right

597
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: side's taken care of. I don't know that he feels

598
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: like that right now. I don't know how he could

599
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: feel like that right now, knowing what we've watched over

600
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: there on that right hand side of the ball.

601
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Speaker 6: And maybe, and maybe it's just my own line of

602
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 6: thinking of where maybe I just hold him to a

603
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 6: higher standard, and we've had this conversation off the air

604
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 6: that maybe this is just a quarterback that he is

605
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 6: and he does us need so many other pieces to

606
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 6: be working around him in order for him to actually

607
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 6: be successful and making all this and real quick if

608
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 6: I can make this point out something last night during

609
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 6: his press conference talking after the game, and you guys know,

610
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 6: I always try to look at people's.

611
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: Vibe and all that.

612
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 6: You know, it just seemed odd. It seemed like and

613
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 6: to your point, Derek, maybe the pressure just more than

614
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 6: the getting the pressure on the field. I think overall,

615
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 6: he seemed to me in the way that he was

616
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 6: answering questions like he's just worn out, Like where you

617
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 6: just standing there and like reciting these words, and he's

618
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 6: so good at answering questions, but you're just spitting out

619
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 6: words and there's no real feeling behind it. And I'm

620
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,239
Speaker 6: not saying he doesn't have feeling or doesn't care, but

621
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 6: maybe it's to the point where he he doesn't even

622
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 6: know what else to say.

623
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Speaker 3: At this point, the questions initially start about the interceptions, Yeah,

624
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: because he's had four games now with multiple interceptions, and

625
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: that was something that he lived two years ago. And

626
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: if we remember very well, the summertime leading up to

627
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: training camp of a couple of years ago, was every

628
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: one of these shows, the ESPN shows, the Fox Sports shows,

629
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: every show led with Dak interception questions. And he got

630
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: tired of answering the interception questions. And then last year

631
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: he threw i think nine total interceptions for the year. Well,

632
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: he's at eight right now, you know, and you've got

633
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: you know, ten more games ago, and now all of

634
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: a sudden he realizes once again that it's falling on

635
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: his shoulders of these interceptions and these turnovers. And maybe

636
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: to your point, this is why he's like wore out.

637
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: You know, he's he's got you know guys, you know

638
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: asking him questions about the interceptions, and he's like, I

639
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: can't do that, I can't do that, I can't do that.

640
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: And it's every week now, you know, every week he

641
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: is having to answer questions about protecting the football, which

642
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 3: last year he did at a very high level, elite level,

643
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: second in the MVP voting level. Far from that, more

644
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: like the guy that was two years ago, and you

645
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 3: would think in year nine that you wouldn't have that

646
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: kind of issue.

647
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 6: Was the total for two years ago on interceptions?

648
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: I forgot it was it. I can't remember exactly, wouldn't

649
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Speaker 3: like I could look it up here in a second,

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Speaker 3: but it was it was double digits. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 3: double digit interceptions. But remember every day he had to

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Speaker 3: were talking about interceptions, interceptions. You watch Nfilm Network, that's

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Speaker 3: all they talked about were Dak's interceptions, and you know,

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Speaker 3: and then he really put all that to bed last year.

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Speaker 3: But now that's coming back, and you know, the questions

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Speaker 3: about is he really seeing the field? Well, you know,

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Speaker 3: fortunately for the Cowboys, man, let's be honest. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he tried to throw that that first pass to ceedee lamb.

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Speaker 3: You know, when they got the ball back on that,

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Speaker 3: trying to throw it through three red shirts. You know,

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Speaker 3: you're like, whoa, you can't do that, man, You got

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Speaker 6: All right, we're gonna take our final fifteen fifteen last

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's right on pace.

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Speaker 3: Halfway to break in that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we're gonna take our final break. When

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Speaker 2: we come back, we'll talk a little bit about this

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the defense. Last night, San Francisco rushed

741
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Speaker 2: for two hundred and twenty three yards without Christian McCaffrey

742
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Speaker 2: and without Mason, who was their starter going into the night.

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Speaker 2: He left at what about halftime a little after halftime.

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Speaker 3: For the shoulder, Yeah, this shoulder problem. Yeah, and Grenda, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Grendo came in and did a really nice.

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Speaker 2: Jock, really good game for him. They still rushed for

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Speaker 2: two undred twenty three yards, an average of six point

748
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 2: two yards per carry, two rushing touchdowns, explosive. They only

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Speaker 2: had seventy at the half. Seventy rushing yards at the half,

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Speaker 2: And I thought, okay, Dallas, this is you know you

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Speaker 2: in that game. Yeah, you give up one hundred and

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00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 2: forty yards on the ground at the end of that game.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, that would be a win. And that's

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Speaker 2: typically a high number, but that would still be a win.

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Speaker 2: To then end with two hundred and twenty three. What

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Speaker 2: happened in the second half as far as the rushing

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Speaker 2: game and the rushing like the rushing defense that put

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Speaker 2: them in that situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you if you really really, if say, they

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Speaker 3: got into a situation where they were having to sell out,

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Speaker 3: you know, and and the forty nine ers, the forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers offensive line, I thought, did a really nice

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Speaker 3: job when it came to you're always they're always going

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Speaker 3: to give you probably problems with the movement because they're

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Speaker 3: always going to get the extra blocker, They're always going

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Speaker 3: to find a way to get a motion guy over.

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Speaker 3: We talked about condensed formations and how that helps them

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Speaker 3: with their block and stuff. Their offensive line did a

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Speaker 3: really great job of you know, and there were some

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Speaker 3: there was some really some good snaps with Massie Smith.

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Speaker 3: There were a couple of times where he was a

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Speaker 3: little bit violent they needed they needed oh soo Diggi's

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Speaker 3: I want to be a little violent in there. They

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Speaker 3: got gashed on some runs where they were gambling a

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Speaker 3: little bit. What happens is you get you get Wilson

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Speaker 3: goes one way, and then and then Kendricks goes the other,

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Speaker 3: and they're they're gashed inside because they've got things pinned.

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Speaker 3: They got everybody pinned inside and they got a kick

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Speaker 3: and now they've got an alley. And there were a

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Speaker 3: couple of times where it was it was trying to

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Speaker 3: play downhill, trying to control blocks, not controlling the blocks,

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Speaker 3: but all of a sudden, now you have one guy

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Speaker 3: on one side, one guy in the other, and now

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Speaker 3: you have this natural alley where you know, we always

785
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Speaker 3: talk about fits and finish and stuff. You know, they

786
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Speaker 3: they played the toss sweep actually pretty good in this game,

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Speaker 3: and I was worried about being underneath center running the

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Speaker 3: sweep and then and then capturing the edge. I think

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Speaker 3: Golston did a hell of a job in this game

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Speaker 3: with his ability to play down Phil, him overshowing those

791
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Speaker 3: guys running it's as he could. I'm gonna are you

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Speaker 3: gonna get into Diggs the conversation about Diggs. I'm just

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Speaker 3: gonna say this real quick about Diggs. I see why

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Speaker 3: Diggs got mad at Mike Lesley.

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Speaker 2: That's where I wanted to go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really do. And you know, after the game,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, because to me, when I went back, I

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Speaker 3: felt because watching the game just on the TV copy

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Speaker 3: in the studio, I'm linking Digs wasn't terrible. And then

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Speaker 3: I watched tape this morning and there were several times

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Speaker 3: Digs by far Diggs has had far worse games.

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Speaker 2: He played physical as a run to heat he did, And.

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Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not trying to stick up for the

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Speaker 3: guy because, like I say, there have been moments where

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Speaker 3: Diggs has not helped you at all. And last night

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Speaker 3: I kind of felt like maybe one of his best

807
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Speaker 3: games when it came to having to play with physicality,

808
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Speaker 3: dealing with receivers, dealing with block dealing with kittle, dealing

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Speaker 3: with guys coming into his face and trying to get

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Speaker 3: rid and step up, you know, make a tackle. Be there.

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Speaker 3: I think Leslie questioned the ball that went up the sidelines,

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Speaker 3: and maybe his angle wasn't the kind of you know,

813
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Speaker 3: but I tell you that we're far more good plays

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Speaker 3: than there were bad. I've seen him play with far, far,

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Speaker 3: far less intensity than he did last night.

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Speaker 2: There were a lot more, in my opinion, there were

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Speaker 2: a lot more busts on that play or bad play

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Speaker 2: on that play that didn't have to do with him.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I think he was getting at when

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Speaker 2: he said, you watched that whole play, and that's what

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Speaker 2: you came away with, Like I think, and by the way,

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Speaker 2: Trayvon as a professional has to not put himself in

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Speaker 2: that situation that that is a like I used to

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Speaker 2: I remember somebody saying this long time ago, and it's

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Speaker 2: gonna fly over the heads of all the young people

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Speaker 2: with Ryan, You'll get it. Never pick a fight with

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Speaker 2: people that buy ink by the barrel. Like it's just

828
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Speaker 2: not a good idea. The whole point of that is

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Speaker 2: when you pick a fight with the media. The media's

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Speaker 2: whole jobs to sit around every day and just talk.

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Speaker 2: That's what they do all day every day. So when

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Speaker 2: you pick a fight with the media, you probably ain't

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Speaker 2: gonna win. It's not a good idea. And I think

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Speaker 2: in that situation, Trayvon should have just been like, have it,

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Speaker 2: you can have it, man, whatever. But I see why

836
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Speaker 2: he was upset because I think he came out of

837
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Speaker 2: the game thinking I did exactly what everybody's been saying

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Speaker 2: I got last I got I did what everybody said

839
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Speaker 2: I couldn't do last night, and you watched that play,

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Speaker 2: which by the way, didn't indict me, and came away

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Speaker 2: from it with something that I did wrong in some way.

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Speaker 6: See, I agree completely and like, okay, as a professional,

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Speaker 6: you just stay in the locker room, don't even engage.

844
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Speaker 6: But at the same time, I one hundred percent understand

845
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Speaker 6: his frustration because that's someone that works in the media.

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Speaker 6: And I'm speaking about Mike. He works in the media.

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Speaker 6: We know he has some power or influence over whoever

848
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Speaker 6: his followers are. So when you make a wrong assessment

849
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Speaker 6: of my job and what I'm doing, You're gonna be

850
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Speaker 6: mad and you want to confront that, and you're he's human,

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Speaker 6: he's human, and the emotions get there, especially if you

852
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Speaker 6: feel like you really tried hard. And then the play

853
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Speaker 6: that you want to point out is not a good

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Speaker 6: example of what you're trying to showcase or tell. So

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Speaker 6: I understand that should have should he have done that?

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Speaker 3: Probably not?

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Speaker 6: But and then another thing that I wanted to point out,

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Speaker 6: I see a lot of people on social media saying, really,

859
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Speaker 6: you go into the locker room, you don't even take

860
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Speaker 6: your paths off or anything, and you're sitting and getting

861
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Speaker 6: on social media searching for your name. I think people

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Speaker 6: be better than that, Like use your head a little

863
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Speaker 6: more than that. I know you guys are more intelligent

864
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 6: than that. Two things. One, when you get on your phone,

865
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 6: many people can be texting you, your friends, family members, sending.

866
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: You stuff, and that's not typically that's how it goes.

867
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 6: Following like let me see what Mike lastlie put out

868
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 6: about me or anything. And another thing, we all we

869
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 6: all get on our phones when we get off work,

870
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 6: when we get off work, when we get near our phone.

871
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 6: Doesn't matter where you're at in the workplace or anything,

872
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 6: doesn't matter what's going on in your life. Nowadays, it's

873
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 6: an automatic. You get on your phone and it's just

874
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 6: like this escape of whatever's going on. But yet you

875
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 6: enter another world on your phone and all this craziness.

876
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 6: And of course, so I understand all of that. And

877
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 6: again I understand there are many many plays that he's

878
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Speaker 6: play and I've called him out on this show after

879
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 6: games or he's had many miss tackles and things like that.

880
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 6: But understand there is a human side to it as well,

881
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 6: and in this specific scenario, I don't think. I don't

882
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 6: think he was fully on the wrong in this case.

883
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 6: You know, stand up for yourself, see the thing and

884
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 6: show it on the field too.

885
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: And real quick if I could, Derek, I know my

886
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: personal experience of going from being in scouting to being

887
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: now in the media and stuff like that. And I

888
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: remember you talked about Smilica. Jason Garrett, Jason Garrett, Jason Whitten.

889
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one time. You know there was a game

890
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 3: where they played the Seattle Seahawks in Seattle and des

891
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: Brian and him were running routes and got it was

892
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: an interception and I thought his route carried his man

893
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: into Dez's area, and that's why you got the interception.

894
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: And Jason found out that I said something about that.

895
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: I brought it up and he came up to me,

896
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: saw me in the locker and he says, hey man,

897
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: you got a minute, And I'm like sure, and he

898
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 3: grabbed me and pulled me aside and said, he said, listen,

899
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: let me just tell you what the row of the route,

900
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: you know, and he explained it to me. What you know,

901
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: he didn't embarrass me in front of everybody, but he says,

902
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 3: you know, if you think I ran the wrong route,

903
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: let me explain why it happened and what the look was.

904
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 3: And so there's ways to handle that. I mean, it

905
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: just is the optics are bad when you come out

906
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: of the locker room and you still have your uniform on.

907
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 3: He could have waited for Mike leslie in there and

908
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 3: pulled Mike aside and walked outside, walked over by the

909
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: bus and just said, hey man, I'm just this is

910
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: what happened. I mean, you look at the run tackles.

911
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: He had four run tackles in that game yesterday. You know,

912
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: there's been games where he hasn't had one run tackle

913
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 3: in the game, So you know, he tried to be

914
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 3: a more physical player, and I think the film showed

915
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: he was a more physical er. I think that's what

916
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 3: got him so mad. It's like, you know, hey, I

917
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 3: played my ass off for me because I don't normally

918
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 3: play this way. Yeah, you know, and so you're gonna

919
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 3: get on me about this one play.

920
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: And you know, I think that's one of the things too.

921
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: Over the years, I've learned with that. It's why I

922
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: don't really live tweet games as much as I used to,

923
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: is because those instant evaluations sometimes can be very, very wrong,

924
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: and you do need the perspective of being, in my opinion,

925
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 2: of being able to two things, one being able to

926
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: go in the locker room after the game and actually

927
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: talk to guys and say what happened on this play?

928
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: What did you see on this play? Why did you

929
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: do what you did on this play? And then number two,

930
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: go back and watch it for yourself, because you will

931
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: find there's so many times in games I have one

932
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: opinion after the game is done, or after a play

933
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: is done, and I go back and watch the game

934
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: later and I'm like, wow, no, I missed that that

935
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: was something else went over here? That really affected that play,

936
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 2: and so I think both those things have to happen.

937
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: And I think Nick at the nail on the head

938
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: this morning when he was on one on five Do

939
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: three the Fan with Sean and RJ, and he was like, Yeah,

940
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: as a reporter, it's your responsibility to ask that question,

941
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: but not ask it to Twitter. Ask it to the player.

942
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: Figure out what the player, what happened, what were you

943
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: doing on this play, what did you see on this play?

944
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: And then report what you saw or what the player said,

945
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: and if you have exception take exception that then you

946
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: can report it in that way. But you did your

947
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: due diligence to find out what it actually was.

948
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 3: Supposed to be. We've all been in this league a

949
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: long time, and myself on the personal side of it,

950
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: there were things as a personal guy that I did

951
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 3: not know and I'd have to go ask yeah, And

952
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 3: that's the danger of this when you start to say, well, gosh,

953
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 3: it was this guy's fault, this guy's fault. You know,

954
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: you watch it, you make the best evaluation, but you

955
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: try and ask somebody if you really really really don't know,

956
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: ask somebody in the organization, and usually you'll get an answer. Like,

957
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: I think about it this way, and I'm like, man, and.

958
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: Off the record, players will be pretty honest with They

959
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: will say, yeah, yeah, I messed that one up. Well,

960
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: they'll say, hey, that guy over here like this is

961
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: just look over here. You'll see kind of what happened.

962
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: They'll tell you off the record, if you developed the

963
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 2: right what kind of relationships? And then you go and

964
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: ask the question and don't just kind of run with

965
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: something just because you think you saw something.

966
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: You know.

967
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the tough part of this job, trying to

968
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 6: find that balance right there.

969
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 3: But I think we have Mike Leslie on the radio

970
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 3: today at six o'clock.

971
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: That'll be fine.

972
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: Three.

973
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 2: Hey, this isn't Mike's first time around the plodam.

974
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm going to ask him, like, bro, is

975
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: there a better way to handle that? Yeah? Seriously, I'm

976
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 3: gonna ask him because I go, I know you didn't

977
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: have the opportunity to watch the tape like I did

978
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: this morning, but you might want to go watch that tape. Yeah,

979
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 3: guy might have played, Yeah, some of his most physical

980
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 3: games he's playing in a while.

981
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: And I wonder if in that situation, I wonder if

982
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 2: Mike will do the right thing in my opinion, which

983
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: is go to to Trayvon and be like, dude, I

984
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: probably talk how to turn a little bit on that one,

985
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: because you did play from the standpoint of what I

986
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: was trying to point out, which I think what he

987
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: was trying to point out is he's not playing good

988
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: in run defense. He played a pretty good game.

989
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: Create him in those sixty five players exactly, don't create

990
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 3: him on one exactly.

991
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: All Right, we appreciate you guys on this. We'll be

992
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: back tomorrow.

993
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: We'll start you guys questions.

994
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna go to the Brian of my the

995
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: brain of Brian brought us Sure.

996
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 6: I mean that, I'm not gonna let that quote die.

997
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 3: That was that was all.

998
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 6: It was hilarious.

999
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: It actually was pretty good. Between that and fix this

1000
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,959
Speaker 2: rich Like those two are now there the top two

1001
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: quotes of all times from players. It's pretty good. All Right,

1002
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Speaker 2: We'll see you guys more until then. For Brian brought

1003
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Speaker 2: us Ambergarci. I'm Derek Eilton. This has been The Break

1004
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1005
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