1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Hey, what's up. This is Nate Big. I want to 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: give a quick shout out to Peanut enrollment at the 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: NFL Players and the Second Acts podcast. So here's what happened. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: We had a super dope episode and y'all should check 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: out all of the episodes. They have credible guests telling 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: incredible stories, doing big things. But at the end of 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: the episode, they were like, yo, we want you to freestyle, 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: and I was tired. 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't on my game. I didn't feel right when 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: I left. 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: You know. 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: I actually went on and couldn't sleep. I'm like, man, 13 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: you can't really leave them with that. You got to 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: redeem itself. 15 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: So here we are. 16 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 3: It's a little something for y'all. And you can see 17 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: New York as the backdrop right, but I'm from Seattle. 18 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 3: I feel right at home when it rains. The two 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: six is synonymous with my name. I'll take the space 20 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: needle straight to the Vans. There's something in a way 21 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: that city make me feel. A word to Kurt Cobain, 22 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: rest in peace to a legend. I want to find 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: Nirvana on Earth before I get to Heaven. That's no desire, 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: no sense of self, feeling rich without money, see that's 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: a sense of wealth. Once had low cash down. My 26 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: digits is up. But if you can't trust me, you 27 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: can't trust us. We dead mice, Peanut and Roman. 28 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: It's a mustard. This is something you ain't see the 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: fora But I'm not mc gusto. Yeah. 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: See this is hip hop back, bigger than black and 31 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: slaps like Chris Rocker. 32 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 33 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: We don't make music. We make movies. Kids smoking every 34 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: single track, just like Poopy did for real, something like 35 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: the Second Acts. I'm Peanut telling me and this is 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: the NFL players Second Acts podcast, and with me as always, 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: this is my older uncle Roman Harper right here, what's 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: up with it? Up with him? 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: All? 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm good? I see that is the type of intro 41 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm used to getting, right when he just says my 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: government name. I'm like, I don't know what to do next. 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: All right, anyways, I do know what to do next, 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: and that is ask all of our followers, our watchers, 45 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: to make sure continue to hit subscribe, hit like give 46 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: us a five star rating. I'm telling you, not asking 47 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: give us the five star rating. Anywhere you pick up 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: your podcast, whether it's Apple Podcast or iHeartRadio, please give 49 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: us a look or listen, Tell a friend to tell 50 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: a friend, to tell a friend. P Nutt, who's our 51 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: guest today. An oldie, but a goodie. This is someone 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: that we're trying to be like, you know, on the 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: on the national level, he's at there. Doctor two thousand 54 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: and three draft class stuff for this A third round 55 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: two thousand and three draft class. Played eleven years and 56 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: since leaving the game, he has become a media mogul. 57 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: He is one of the hope excuse me. He is 58 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: one of the co hosts from the CBS Morning show. 59 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome in Nate Borlson. What's up, y'all? 60 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: What's up? I appreciate that. Thank y'all for having me in. 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: Before we get started, I was want to say, I've 62 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: always admired what you guys did on the field, but 63 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: what you guys have done and your second act has 64 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: been incredible and it's a beautiful thing to see, man. 65 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: So this is an honor. You know. When I got 66 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: word that y'all wanted to have me on, I was 67 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: pumped about it. And you even got the voice, don't 68 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: he like? I feel like when I didn't really recognize 69 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: your voice, but it's. 70 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 4: Like, well, you know, I really want to thank y'all 71 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 4: for tuning in. 72 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: You remember, I'll been working on it, Donny Simpson, meaning 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: that was one of my inspirations. I see it. Okay, 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: it's coming. It's coming in the little things that really 75 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: get people excited. As Nate has progressed in his career 76 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: and his life, he's like, bro, I don't even care 77 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: about you getting all the love and some of the 78 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: catches and stuff. It's like, man, did you feel that story? 79 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: Did you feel the passion in my voice right exactly 80 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: what he's looking for, scratch. I appreciate it. I like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 81 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: no worries, man, but yeah, man, you've been you've been 82 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: killing on CBS Warning Show. I like it representing us, well, 83 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: thank you, you're doing your thing. I like you straight hand, 84 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: like you give athletes us a platform to say that. Yo, man, 85 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: we not just athletes. Like I don't just have to 86 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: I don't just have to talk about sports. I don't 87 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: just have to be a coach or an analyst. Like 88 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: I can come in, I can do radio, I can 89 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: do TV, I can do like legit news. I can 90 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: interview the president. I can interview politicians, hip hop's artists, 91 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: athletes like I can do it all, you know what 92 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: I'm saying, And I'm just I'm proud of I really 93 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: like what you've done. You started out a good morning 94 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: football and your progression and the work ethic that you 95 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 1: put in and like you, legit you, you like legit 96 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: media like you you doing the damn thing. And I 97 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: just say, man, I applause you. It's it's amazing to see. Yeah, 98 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: I sincerely received that, man. And like I said, you 99 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: guys have also, you know, kind of recreated the blueprint. 100 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: I feel like we all we all have this one 101 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: big blueprint, and we're all making our marks on it, 102 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, individually. You know. Straight Hand of course, is 103 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: one of the people that they look at and they say, 104 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: all right, he going from a super Bowl champion, Hall 105 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: of Famer into media, into news and now hosting everything 106 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: from reality shows to game shows. Now there's this blueprint 107 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: out there. But what I love about this new landscape 108 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: in the new NFL player is that we're all grabbing 109 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: that same blueprint, making our marks, saying, here's an avenue 110 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: for you as a player. You can go into podcasts, 111 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: and you can go into law enforcement. You can go 112 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: into coaching if you want, but you can also going 113 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: in the fashion, media, music, finance. You can do whatever 114 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: you want, you know. I think the greatest live sports 115 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: has ever told us as athletes is all you need 116 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: to do is care about this. Yeah, And I don't 117 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: know where we picked it up from. Maybe it was 118 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: just indoctrinated as a young age at a young age, 119 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: but like we got to the NFL, and if you 120 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: would have talked to us our rookie year, our second 121 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: year about what we would do for the team, I 122 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: think about ninety nine percent of us say I run 123 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: through brick wall and mean it, like I die for 124 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: these colors, this logo on my helmet, this emblem and 125 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: these team colors. This is everything that matters to me. 126 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: And for the most part, that helped us do our 127 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: jobs at the level it did, but it also blinded 128 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: us to the next chapter and what we were also 129 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: going to have to face, which was figuring out who 130 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: we are after we take the helmet off. And I 131 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: think us and many others like us are just representations 132 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: that being an athlete was just a small part of 133 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: our lives. It wasn't necessarily who we were, and the 134 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: sooner guys can figure that out, which is why I 135 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: love this new generation of athletes. It's like, you'll be 136 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: better off once retirement comes. It actually makes a lot 137 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: of the coaches and people that work with these players 138 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: more uncomfortable because they're not used to it. They're used 139 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: to just guys doing what you tell them. And now 140 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: they're like, man, you know, they understand they have value. 141 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: They understand that they're not just football players, and you know, 142 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: they they have their own face, they have their and 143 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: they want to know what their you know, the media 144 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: responsibilities and who they want to be off of the 145 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: field is where their brand their brand, and so all 146 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: these things are happening and I just think it's really cool. 147 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: I heard you talking to this guy about on Cairo radio. 148 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Seems like yeah, it seems like you guys really hit 149 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: it off, Like yeah, yeah, I can tell, I can tell. 150 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: Like you guys open up, shared a lot of stories 151 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: and just you talking about your whole journey of like man, 152 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: you know the confidence that came with as you got 153 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: more and more of this and doing more and more 154 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: of the TV that it allows you all of a sudden, 155 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: now you're relaxing and you're you're really getting into these 156 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: things more. At what point in time did that really 157 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: start to happen for you. I'm in this space right 158 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: now that I work with it on the day. That's 159 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: my normal job, and so I'm trying to do more 160 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: personality TV. I want to be able to be able 161 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: to make that switch and show like I have more 162 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: just football knowledge and to have way more rain yep, 163 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: like you guys are just holding me down from this right, 164 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: like I can talk way more about other things. I 165 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: actually enjoyed that way more, of course, you know what 166 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean. I'm just football. I mean that's just a 167 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: small chapter. That's right, That's right, so many more to do. 168 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: How do you get to that? And at what point 169 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: in time did you all of a sudden start to 170 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: get way more comfortably Like, dude, I can totally expand 171 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: and do this. Yeah, that's such a good question. The 172 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: first time I was actually on TV was the year 173 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: I got drafted, which was two thousand and three. I 174 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: went to the NFL network, and you know, I got 175 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of a buzz from it, and I 176 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: got to be honest, it was more self serving. I'm 177 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, you know what. Divas. I like to 178 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: hear myself talk, and I like to look at myself 179 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: on TV. He's no surprise to you. I don't even 180 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: need to glasses, you know what I. 181 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: Mean. 182 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm almost forty two. I'm behind, but but you know 183 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: so I say that because every off season I would 184 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: do either local or national TV or radio. I would 185 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: go do the NFL network hits. They were never paying me. 186 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: I would do stuff back home. So it's almost like 187 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: I was sharpening the tools while I was playing. And 188 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: then I went to the broadcast boot camp and that's 189 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: when I realized that I wanted to do this as 190 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: a career. And it was funny because I had a 191 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: little bit of a when you was still playing. Yeah, 192 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: I was like year nine to ten, and they basically 193 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: gave me a pat on the back, say, hey man, 194 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: you're talented. You got you got some some foundational pieces 195 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: that could allow you to be good at this if 196 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: you choose to. But I remember struggling when we did 197 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: the exercise of calling a game like it just it 198 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: was so foreign to me to have somebody in there 199 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: to kind of like tee me up. It was like 200 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: the alley oup, and I just kept missing the dunk. 201 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's like, all right, first and ten bend 202 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger drops back and the past is completed and need 203 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: to wait for me to jump in. And I just 204 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: didn't know how to do that dance. So once I 205 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: left the broadcast boot camp, as much as I felt 206 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: good about certain areas of being on TV, I just 207 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: kept thinking about where I struggled. I guess that's the 208 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: athlete in you know. We focused on on the details 209 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: of something we're not doing well at and that made 210 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: me feel like a rookie again. And that's what I 211 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: think that element encouraged me the most. When I retire, 212 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna work on this craft. I gotta I gotta 213 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: be good at it. And at that time, I had 214 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: a partnership with a clothing line, Bangs and Baker. I 215 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: had an Italian restaurant in Seattle. I had a couple 216 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: other small things going on from a creative standpoint. So 217 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: I had all these things that I didn't know. I 218 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: didn't know what I wanted to do, so I had 219 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: to pick something. It was either go into TV or 220 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: try my hand of all these other things. And I thought, 221 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: if I go on to TV and I'm good at TV. 222 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: It's gonna make these other things easier. So let's get 223 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 1: into TV. And that's when I signed on to the 224 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: NFL Network and from there I was the busiest guy 225 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: like there was. There wasn't nothing that they couldn't call 226 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: me for. It was live TV, tape, TV pregame, halftime, postgame, 227 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: digital content, getting reps. So all it was was getting 228 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: as many reps as I could. And also, you know, 229 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to prove that I was just as good 230 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: as some of these guys that were there. I didn't. 231 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: I didn't have the gold jacket or the ring, so 232 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, I needed to work twice as hard. And 233 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: I felt like, remember when we first got in the 234 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: league and the OG's be like, hey, look slow down, man, 235 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: shut up. Yeah, yeah, that's the Booker got me with that. 236 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: What do you feel real bad? Like I'm practicing. I'm 237 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: just I'm doing I'm working. And that's how I felt 238 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: the ogs at the NFL Network, where it was kind 239 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: of like yo, rook, slow down, bro, like you're not 240 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: getting paid anymore, so why are you doing stuff that 241 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: that you're not getting paid to do? And I didn't 242 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: have an answer. All I knew is if I got 243 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: as much reps as I could at all of these 244 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: different aspects of TV, eventually I'll start to find my rhythm. 245 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: And and I'm still finding it, but you know, I 246 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: for like, at least I found my voice. Yeah, and 247 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: so so look, I want this is gonna be the 248 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: toughest question to ask, all right, And so Peanut got 249 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: me so excited. I wanted to hit you with this first. Right, 250 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: Who's the best receiver? Calvin? Better receiver? Calvin Johnson or 251 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: Randy Moss? You played with both, all right, Randy was 252 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: a different time in Minnesota when you remember Calvin you 253 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: had young, you were older, and you got Calvin. So 254 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: which one was the best receiver you ever played against? 255 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: You ever played with? I would have to go with 256 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: Randy Moss. You know a couple of reasons. One longevity 257 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: by his side, all right, even at an older age 258 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: when people thought he was washed. He went to New 259 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: England and he got killed. Busy killed twenty two touchdowns, todown 260 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: something wild. He was the most naturally gifted athlete I've 261 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: ever seen. I mean, he could play baseball. I think 262 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: he could have ran in the Olympics. He was a 263 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: really good Hooper beast, and he would show up and 264 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: not even really have to warm up in his prime, 265 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: Like Randy didn't even warm up. I'm talking about not 266 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: that practice a game. I remember, you know, warming up 267 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: next to him, and I'm like, like Jim Carrey and 268 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: Cable guy, I'm doing all kinds of stretch, you know 269 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And Randy's over there just moving his 270 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: feet up and down. And the coach was like, hey, Randy, 271 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: you gotta warm up. He's just sitting there like whatever, 272 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: and he's like, Randy, come on, let's go. We've got 273 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: a game in a little bit. And he just so 274 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: casually looked at her. He's like, hey, you ever seen 275 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: a cheetah stretch before a hunts? And it was like 276 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: one of them like abnormally profound questions that we didn't 277 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: have to answer for. And I'm like and we're all like, yeah, 278 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: you're right. The cheetah nuvers, it just goes, it gets 279 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: the food, and we all kind of looked looked at Randy, 280 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: looked at the coach. Coach turned around, walked away, and 281 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: Randy had another big day on the field. So Randy 282 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: was naturally gifted. I will say this though Calvin was 283 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: a freak, but he also worked his ass off. Calvin 284 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: was six four sixty five two thirty. Sometimes he gets 285 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: it to a round two forty and he still was 286 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: a four to three guy jumping a forty five inch 287 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: vertical crazy, but he would show up every day and 288 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: work like he was a free agent. Like Calvin, when 289 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: we could do conditioning, he wouldn't just like lead us 290 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: by step or two. He would beat us by as 291 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: much as his athleticism was supposed to beat us by. 292 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: And I always like, I admired that about him, and 293 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: I feel like if Calvin would have played as long 294 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: as Randy, this would be a different conversation. But you know, 295 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: you can't you can't knock Randy's numbers. And then on 296 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: top of that, just like his his intimidation factor. I 297 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: remember being in the slot and there was a there 298 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: was a dB in front of him, there was a 299 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: safety behind the dB, and then the safety from the 300 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: other side of the field was rolling over the top. 301 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: So he basically had to beat three levels of defense 302 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: in one play, and short Donta Colepepper dropped back with 303 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: max protection and let that thing rip touch down back 304 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: in the end zone like, and I just remember being 305 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: there were moments where I was just in ah. 306 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: Like. 307 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: I remember another time DV is given everybody fits and 308 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: Randy goes up there and I saw the whites of 309 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: the dv's eyes. His toes is all the way up 310 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: because he's ready to get out of there. And then Randy, 311 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: the dB backs up right, so he's acting like he's 312 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: gonna press him, and then he backs up to about 313 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: eight yards and as soon as he snaps the ball, 314 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: Randy's off the line SCREAMAG goes like this, Now, mind you, 315 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: he had a hitch, so he could have ran the 316 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: hitch right, but he's like this, DB's off at eight backpedaling, 317 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: which means probably like at fifteen. Yeah, and Randy in 318 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: his head is thinking, I'm still gonna run past you. 319 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: So he comes off the line of screamings and just 320 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: hot hand, hot hands, and then boom, touchdown. So Randy 321 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: was just a different type of beast man. And look, 322 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: that's what all my former teammate Darren Sharp is like, 323 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: Look like nobody would call Randy Moss one on one 324 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: in his prime, like you had to have another safety 325 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: or it was like you had no chance, and that 326 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: was a whole defense that was out there, you understand. Yeah, 327 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: I think for me though, I think I had successful Randon. 328 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: You played both. 329 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had. 330 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: Successful Randy because the coach used to always say, man, 331 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: you gotta guard the man, not his reputation. And I 332 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: really I really took that the heart, like, yo, he 333 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: is Randy Moss. 334 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: He is that dude. 335 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I can't be I can't be afraid of 336 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: you the man, like your reputation. 337 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 4: You're this, but like I'm a dog too. 338 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: And you also play it to your strengths, your length, 339 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: like you're length. Even if you knew you weren't trying 340 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: to get your hands on him, you knew if you 341 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: just did the street fighter like Dawson just like reached out, 342 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: you knew that would just like it would cause a 343 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: little bit of hesitation if you get Randy that has 344 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: didn't line scrimmage, not saying you got to has to 345 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: beat him, you got a chance to stay with him. 346 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, I've always admired those battles, man. 347 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: You know, It's just it's hard though when you look 348 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: at those two guys because they're just so different, Like 349 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: Calvin was physical. I will say this though you stack 350 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: up their highlights together, you're gonna see impressive catchers. You're 351 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: gonna see them go up over the top of guys 352 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: double coverage, even triple coverage. You're gonna see good route running. 353 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: But I think the separation will be that Calvin was 354 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: by far a better blocker. Like Calvin was a beast 355 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: in the run game. I remember me being in the 356 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: slot and having a bubble route and Calvi's on the outside. 357 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: I got it to the line scrimmage and in my head, 358 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm already thinking about my damn I'm gonna 359 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: do because Calvin's about to run this dude into the tunnel. 360 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: And I knew it, and I knew I was about 361 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: thirty yards away from the end zone. I wasn't even 362 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: worried about Calvin's man. He got up on that dB, 363 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: put them hands on them, drove them to the sideline. 364 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: I just ran right inside because I trusted Calvin that much. 365 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: He never gave up on the play. What was it 366 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: like when you because you use this acronym for her, 367 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, his everlasting Yeah. Football with football, 368 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: after being involved with it for eleven years, having to 369 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: walk away, you've had some tragedy things happen throughout your career. Yeah, 370 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: move from a couple of places you had an ACL injury. 371 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: Talk about so that journey when you finally said, all right, 372 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: it's time to move on. Yeah. I feel like we 373 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: all fall in love with this sport at different places 374 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: in our lives. You know. I started playing when I 375 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: was a kid in Pop Warner football, and then in 376 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: high school is like puppy love. And then it's like 377 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: we got engaged in college and then the league was like, 378 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: oh damn, I'm married to this job. Put a ring 379 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: on it, you know. And there were some good times. 380 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 2: You know. 381 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: The reason I described it like this tourd love affairs, 382 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: because you know, the good times are the contracts, the touchdowns, 383 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: the winds, you know what I mean, The traveling city 384 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: to city and playing villain on the road, you know, 385 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: all of that. Like it's like it's like it's like 386 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: good sex and the merits, you know what I'm saying. 387 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: The vacations are fire, and vacations are good. Vacation love 388 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: is great, right exactly exactly. That's that's what the good 389 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: times in the NFL were like. But then there's the 390 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: injuries there's the contract negotiations when they tell you you're 391 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: not what you usual. Yeah, the devaluing and which it 392 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: plays such a role on our mental health, but we 393 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: don't know it at the time, because all of a sudden, 394 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: you go from when we were young telling us what 395 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: the greatest thing since sliced bread too, when we're older 396 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: that you just ain't got it anymore and this is 397 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: why we're going to pay you crumbs. And and I 398 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: think like all of that. The bad times, it's like 399 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: sleeping in separate beds, or arguing with your boo or 400 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, just just not being on the same page. 401 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: So when it was time to walk away from the game, 402 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean I knew it was I knew it was here, 403 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: Like I remember seeing the light at the end of 404 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: the tunnel. It's brighter never. But I still didn't want 405 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: to have that conversation with her. It was like, it's 406 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: like football came to me and she was like, hey, Nate, 407 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: can we talk? And you know when you hear that 408 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: as a man, this is a real We got to talk. 409 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: Damn what did I do? And she basically said the 410 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: NFL basically said I found someone else. He's younger, he's faster, 411 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: he's more athletic, he's cheaper, and I'm happy with him, 412 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: and I'm happy, And it was that's when it sank 413 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: in where I had to look at the league and 414 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: just say it was fun while it lasted, and it 415 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: also had things that I could fall back on. So 416 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: there's also talking about the second act. When you have 417 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: something that you can look forward to, it makes it 418 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: easier to deal with, like a breakup like we all 419 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: deal with when we play our last game. It's tough though, 420 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: as a player when your career abruptly ends and you 421 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: don't have a next chapter to go to. Yeah, so 422 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: why was it important for you to start the media 423 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: like right away? 424 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 4: I know for me, I did a little bit of media. 425 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: I wish I would have did more like you did, 426 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: like in the off seasons and things like that. I went, 427 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: I worked for spot By, I went and I worked 428 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: for Fox Sports. I remember that, and I thought I 429 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: was terrible and I was trying to get these reps 430 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: and everything. I wish I envy you because you said 431 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: you were going and you were getting all these reps 432 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: and you were doing all these things. Yeah, and I 433 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: wasn't as prepared as I should have been. So why 434 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: do you think it was important for you to go 435 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: and get all these reps during the off season. I 436 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: just knew one if I was in the building, these 437 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: execs and producers would get to know me. And when 438 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: somebody knows you, you're much more than just a talent. 439 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: When they bring on athletes, it's just like your football 440 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: got talking football. But if they know me, it's you're 441 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: Nate Burlison, the football player talking football. And they want 442 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: to help me out and they want to make it work. 443 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: I mean, they're a little bit more honest with me. 444 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: I remember I had a bad show. I was working 445 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: for the NFL Network. In my head, I had a 446 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: bad show. Stumbled through a few lines, and I just 447 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: took the long way to answer some questions. I just 448 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: wasn't sharp. And afterwards, the producers came by as we 449 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: were walking to the locker room at the NFL Network, 450 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: and he was like, hey, good job, could job everybody, goodjob, 451 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: good job. He pat me on a back, good job, 452 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, wait, wait, no, no, no, don't tell 453 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: me it's a good job. I didn't do a good job. 454 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: And he's like, no, you know, I'm just saying. I 455 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, but don't do that, like I'm used 456 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: to coaching. You know, we come from the football field, 457 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: like just be just be honest. And it also like 458 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: you don't want me to get into a place where 459 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: I feel like mediocrity is acceptable, and so I can 460 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: like bs my way through it or not prepare and 461 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: just show up. And I think from there it shifted. 462 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: So now they started like they started coaching up Nate Burlison, 463 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: who's talking football versus always high five in the football 464 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: player because he's in studio. And I've seen that before 465 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: with athletes. It's like, you know, you see him at 466 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: one point in their media career and then five years 467 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: later there isn't much growth, you know what I'm saying. 468 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's not necessarily an athlete. If 469 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: you're telling me he's doing a good job for five 470 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: years straight, he's never going to change our approach. It 471 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: so hard to get honest feedback in this side of 472 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: the business unless, like you're saying, you build those relationships, well, 473 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: now they're going to be open and honest with you, 474 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: and then you can actually have real growth. Because the 475 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: biggest thing is when in this space, for me, is that. 476 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm always trying to ask, like, all right, how is that? 477 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: How is this? And I know I try to look 478 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: at myself and that's another part of it. But when 479 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: you don't honestly know because you don't even know what 480 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: they're looking. I have no idea of no idea, and 481 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: you don't know your voice no, like you have no idea. 482 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: I got to the NFL network, and you know, you 483 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: try to be like what you see on TV and 484 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: guys that are in the building. So you know, one 485 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: day I come in and I'm just like, all right 486 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: to be like like Dion and IRV, you know what 487 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: I mean, because they were in the building. So I'm 488 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: coming in. I'm all hype and I'm talking a little 489 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: bit of passing like HERV. Dude, I'm just in friends 490 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: like Dion and I'm like, yeah, but I'm not damn though, 491 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: Like so why am I trying to be? Then I'm like, okay, 492 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: I see Marshall fall you know he's more of intellectual type, 493 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: so let me just come in and you know, focus 494 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: on the puntification and make sure that they you know, 495 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: when I'm talking about these words that it's more elaborate 496 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: and articulate, and I was like, that's not me, is 497 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: not it? So what is my voice? And then surely 498 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: shortly after that, I started to realize who I am, 499 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: which is a kid from the West Coast who loves sports, music, movies, 500 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: pop culture, who loves art, who can write like, that's 501 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: who you, That's who you are, that's your voice. And 502 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: the more I displayed that, the more receptive the viewers 503 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: viewers were. You can see it though, too, and I 504 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's authentic. So you are well 505 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: not You're not a self proclaimed, but your wife calls you. 506 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: And from what I've learned about you is that you 507 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: are creative. I am a creative. I'm married to a creative. 508 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: So you know, you know all kind of all over 509 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: the place, you kind of dil We got all these 510 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: grand ideas. You're like, nearly I get it right accurate, 511 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: and I want you to really dive into this. This 512 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: mantra you use about open your eyes and you you're 513 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: torn your a cl After one of your best seasons, 514 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: I think that was in a and you were down 515 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: in Birmingham, you went to doctor Andrews. You're doing some 516 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: drinking and you realize, like man like it's a slippery 517 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: slow that's a fact, and how fast it could easily 518 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: just go away when you start to get in your 519 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: own head and you're not using that energy and putting 520 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: it into other things, and you're talking about opening your eyes. 521 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: And I want to get this quote right. You talked 522 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: about how all the beautiful things around you, the support system, 523 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: the people that you had that were actually there helping you, 524 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: and how bright today really is. And so maybe you 525 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: could share with us how you still use that mantra 526 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: about opening your eyes and every day you so like, 527 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: maybe where are you at with it now? Yeah? For sure. 528 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: I remember going to Birmingham doctor Andrews, world renowned doctor 529 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: and he did both of my knee surgery. He's a beast. 530 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: He's a bast. I remember I was sitting in there 531 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: just depressed and he comes in. He had the little 532 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: country He's like, hey, son, you gonna be all right, 533 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: And I don't learn that moment. I was like, oh, yeah, 534 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: I am gonna be all right. But I wasn't though, 535 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: because it was my first major injury, and you know, 536 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: when you have that type of injury, first you start 537 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: thinking about if you're gonna be the same when you 538 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: come back, run as fast, jump as as well being explosive, right, 539 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: and then you know, the actual procedure happens. And I'm 540 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: in Alabama recovering. My family is still in Seattle. My 541 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: kids are in school, so the wife is holding down 542 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: the fort, and I remember listening to the game on 543 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: the radio because it's Alabama, they don't play Seahawks games, 544 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: and I just so desperately wanted them to say my name, 545 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: like I don't know why, just like I want to 546 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: miss you. Yeah, I wanted them to say, like, man, 547 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: they could really use Nate bros. And ore, you know 548 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: thoughts with them. I just want them to like just 549 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: focus on me. That that's that selfishness that I was 550 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: used to. And I think he might have said something 551 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: in the beginning, but it was quick and the Borrows 552 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: is out, next guy up. That was it. The entire game, 553 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: theydn't mentioned my name, And I don't know why that 554 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: made me so sad, because I think it's set in. 555 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: It's sank in that they're going to move on without you, 556 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: like this is just an injury, but one day they 557 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: are going to move on without you. That's the name 558 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: of the game. So you know. The first day I 559 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: come back after being cleared from like using my medication, like, hey, 560 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: let me get a vodka soda and drink my little 561 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: vodka soda. Next day, I'm like, yo, make it a double, 562 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. A few days later, I'm like, hey, 563 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: just fill up the cup all the way, no ice, man, 564 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: just slide them a little hunted. And then like a 565 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: week later, I remember going to him like, hey, yo, 566 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: here go hunt Can you just send the bottle up 567 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: to my room? And he's like, yeah, sure, you got mixtures. 568 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, Noah, need them. And I remember sipping vodka 569 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: on ice and drowning my emotions and alcohol. And I've 570 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: never had an issue drinking, but in that moment, I 571 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: feel like I was close to the edge. I was 572 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: either going to drink myself into a stoop or create 573 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: some habits that will following me for the rest of 574 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: my life. And I woke up fully dressed us. I'm 575 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: a pajama guy, you know, hoop and T shorts, a 576 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: T shirt and hoop shorts and T shirt. When I 577 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: go to sleep, and I had all of my clothes 578 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: on from the day before, in my shoes with my 579 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: braces on like on top of the sheets, and I 580 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: was sleeping still, and I remember waking up and I 581 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: kind of like came to as if I was like 582 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: sitting up in a casket. I felt like, yeah, like 583 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: the undertaking it was wild, Like my arms were like crossed, 584 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,239 Speaker 1: so he was yeah, I felt like I felt. I 585 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: felt like I was in a casket. And then my 586 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: mind starts thinking like a creative like is this Am 587 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,239 Speaker 1: I reading too much into this? Or do I need 588 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: to read more into what just happened? I blacked out, 589 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: woke up completely dressed like the day before, when my 590 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: arms crossed over my chest, like I'm sitting in the casket? 591 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do now? And I remember pouring 592 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: the voc out, putting it in the trash, and I 593 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: was like, bro, let's rehab lock in. Let's let's get busy, 594 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: Like you got enough hurdles that you got to get over, 595 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: got enough obstacles you got to get around. Let's not 596 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: put alcohol in the mix, you know what I'm saying. 597 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: And that's when I got focused and I came back 598 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: from ACL in like six months. It was extremely fast. 599 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: So that was a turning point because I either had 600 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: to sit in this state of depression and feel sorry 601 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 1: for myself, or I can open my eyes and realize, like, 602 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: not only do I have a great support system, but 603 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: I got everything I need to get back healthier and 604 00:29:49,480 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: even stronger. And that's what I decided to do. Now 605 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: that you're in TV, and you were trying to say, 606 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, do I want to be like Dione? 607 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: You want to be like Marshall, Right, So now I 608 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 4: get how you can have that view. 609 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: Now you're in like TV TV, you doing the news 610 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: every day, five days a week, CBS Morning Show. 611 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 4: You have a certain. 612 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: Look, your hair, your dress, your language, how you talk 613 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: like it's not the traditional and reporting to you live 614 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: on the CBS Morning News Show Charles Tooman and talk though, 615 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: and it's no secret, no doubt about that. Did you 616 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: did you get any flack or any pushback or backlash 617 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: about just you being you? Because you have your voice 618 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: right you said you found it, so this is this 619 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: is you. Was there any backlash like talk about that. 620 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: I remember talking to straight Hand shortly after taking the 621 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: job and he said, you know, go in there and 622 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: try to find your voice right away. Also realize, like 623 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that love that you're there, 624 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of people that don't want you there, right, 625 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: and those people are also working for CBS, basically saying 626 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: that there's individuals that they don't want another football player. 627 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: They don't want kirkland Brand straight hand taking a seat 628 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: when there are experienced journalists that have been waiting for 629 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: that seat to open for years, some decades. So there 630 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: was a hyper awareness and a gonna be a good 631 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: VET move to come out there and tell you that, yeah, yeah, 632 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. It's like huge, yeah, and it 633 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: gives me some sensitivity to people i'll work with. I'm 634 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: coming in with my chest all out, you know, I 635 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: understand what it looks like. Now I have to earn 636 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: your respect by what I do and the work that 637 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: I put in. But I did have some struggles though, 638 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: initially finding my voice because when I came in like 639 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: all right, this is news, it is different, and everybody 640 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: kept telling me like, yo, this is news. You can't 641 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: dress like you typically dress, which I didn't really get 642 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: cuz like that's who you are. 643 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's like. 644 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: On Sundays I wear like pimp and can suits or something. 645 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: I'd wear regular suits, but you know, there were a 646 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: few people that were like, hey, you know, you can't 647 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: dress loud on this show, and I'm like, when did you? 648 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: Are you talking about stuff I wore twenty years ago 649 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: when I was on the road playing against the Green 650 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: Bay Packers, and my suit was what is it? Yeah? Yeah, 651 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: what is it? 652 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 653 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, And you got to be a little bit 654 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: more traditional because you know, I speak with you know, 655 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: like we all do with our hair and our look 656 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: and a cut and a swag and how we dress 657 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: and walk and talk. So initially I came in and 658 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: I was wearing a bunch of browns and blacks and 659 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: navy suits, like it was very blah, and even my 660 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: voice and delivery was different when I first joined, because 661 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: I thought that's what they wanted and that's what they needed, 662 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: and I was doing the same thing. Hey, how you 663 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: doing This is Nate Brolson and were here this morning. 664 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: It's good to see you guys. We have a traffic 665 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: accident on the freeway and it's like, that ain't shoes. 666 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: That's not me. So one day I took all the 667 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: suits I had in my office and I put them 668 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: in a bag, took them home. I replaced all those 669 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: suits with suits that I have in my closet at 670 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: home and brought them to work. And I walked in 671 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: with a brighter color suit. It was like a deep 672 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: red or something like that. I had my flat top 673 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: with like curl brriage was like a cranberry. And immediately 674 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: my voice was different. It was crazy like once I 675 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: got comfortable in my own skin, my delivery was different. 676 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,479 Speaker 1: Even the way I set even my body language was different. 677 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: So it took a few months for me to find 678 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: my voice. And I feel like, you know, I'm at 679 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: a good place, and you know, shout out to Gil 680 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: because I remember walking in with that type of suit 681 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: and she kind of looked at him, was like, about time. 682 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: This is where I'm at with it. But yeah, it 683 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: takes time, man, I'm sure for sure. So now being 684 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: in that position, now, has any other players like reached 685 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: out who are in the in the media, say football, 686 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: and they're trying to get over into like the new 687 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: side of it. Have they reached out to you or 688 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: have you like mentor like, look here's what y'all should 689 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: be doing. Of course you're gonna get my number. We 690 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: got to tap in, listen, we have to be each 691 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: other's biggest fans period. And you know, I'm not just 692 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: here to get in this position and close the door 693 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: behind me. I want to kick this damn door down 694 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: so we can walk into the spaces that we want 695 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: to walk into. But yeah, guys have reached out and 696 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 1: I told them the same things that I learned early 697 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: on was one reps, but to force your way into 698 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: these other spaces. Because when I was doing Good Morning Football, 699 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: I was grinding away three hours of TV a day, 700 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: live TV, which is crazy. Yeah, and then you know, yeah, yeah, 701 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And then but if that's all 702 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: you know this, yeah yeah, yeah, but it was great 703 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: to have those rests on the run and on the 704 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: fly and live TV. It's like a heightened sense of 705 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: like being on point. But then I started to strategically 706 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: put myself in different spaces, and that's why I joined 707 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 1: Extra to do entertainment. Now it's not necessarily hardcore news, 708 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: but we do tackle hardcore topics, so they might be 709 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: more celebrity driven, but it's the same type of concept. 710 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about celebrity news, and sometimes the 711 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: crossover between politics and death and tragedy happens, so people 712 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: were able to see me in a completely different light. 713 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, wait, like Nate, he can do entertainment. 714 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: Oh he's tackling, you know, politics, because we're doing a 715 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: story about Obama meeting the Super Bowl champions and he's 716 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: he's speaking about it so eloquently like that. I think 717 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: that right there got the attention of CBS and they 718 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: were able to see that. You know. I remember going 719 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: over to the digital side of the CBS building and 720 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: they wanted to do a hit talking about the opening 721 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: season schedule. And I remember something somebody told me a 722 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: long time ago. Microphones are always on, good and bad, 723 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: so watch what you say, but also take advantage when 724 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: they're on. And I was over there and we were 725 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: talking about the season and what games I'm looking forward 726 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: to and what game CBS had. But in between the takes, 727 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: I was just sparking conversation about stuff that I knew 728 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: they didn't know about me. I knew they didn't They 729 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 1: didn't know I owned a restaurant, or that my financial 730 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: advisor and I help athletes invest money, or that I 731 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: started a few clothing lines, or that I had interest 732 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: in poetry. So I was just like throwing this stuff 733 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: out there, starting conversation and by the time I left, 734 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: I remember one of the producers was like, hey, Nick. 735 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: You know I kind of looked back, like what's up. 736 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, would you mind coming back at some 737 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: point and talking about all that other stuff not just football? 738 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, yeah, of course, And I 739 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: just kind of gave my self with fist pump because 740 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 1: like that that was the point. It was strategically done. Sometimes, 741 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, we assume that people know more about us 742 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: than they do, but in reality, all they care about 743 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: is that we play ball, and that's fine. You know, 744 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: we've been playing ball the whole lives. So we almost 745 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: have to force their hand and show them. So the 746 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: strategy came with little moments like that where I was 747 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 1: able to step outside that box. And that's the advice 748 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: I give to these guys, Like, I don't know, the 749 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: comfortable thing is talking about sports, but flex all your muscles, 750 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: Like we all have all these interests and nobody knows so, 751 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: and that's the best advice I can give to those guys. 752 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: So the wealth management, the clothing line, the restaurant of 753 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,399 Speaker 1: poetry art, you have so much interest would you call 754 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: it earlier? You. You were crazy, no doubt, Like I 755 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: get it, so I can already see you and how 756 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 1: you are and everything, But like, how do you focus 757 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: on what to do? Because you got the TV. I'm 758 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: sure you got to prepare and work on that because 759 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: that's your full time nine priority. But yet you also 760 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: but yet also you got all these other interests. Yeah, 761 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then you got kids 762 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: and you want to be a dad. You got to 763 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: be a husband, you know, Like, so that's that's a 764 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: lot of time to Okay, I got job, I got work, 765 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: but my creative side and this, and then I have 766 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: be a parent and sports and basketball games and like 767 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: what am I doing? Like how do you manage all that? 768 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: I'm doing a better job of managing it now. When 769 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: I first moved out to New York about seven eight 770 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: years ago, now, did a terrible job at managing it. 771 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I said yes to everything because I was like, god, man, 772 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: it's my opportunity to show how versatil I am. I'm 773 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: saying yes to everything and I wasn't getting paid a 774 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: ton to do it. But I knew if I got 775 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: the reps and I got the exposure, eventually I get 776 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: to a point where I can say no to things. 777 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: But because I didn't know how to manage being a husband, 778 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: of father, a coach, juggling multiple jobs. Like I remember 779 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: one day waking up and like little patches were missing 780 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: in my beard. I'm like, damn, am I using the 781 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: wrong like soapmotion or something, And then before you knew it, 782 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: big patches were going. And then my entire beard was going, 783 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: but bald, naked, and you know, black man with no mustange, 784 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: no beard, I can't trust it. Attlemas got a little 785 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: Thomas got a little Thomas. He got a little bit, 786 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: a little bit, but Mommy's button egg it all the 787 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: way around. Though. So I remember going to a dermatologist 788 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: and it Yeah, it started as her just diagnosing me, 789 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: and then it turned into a therapy sessions. She's like, 790 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: all right, you have alopeia due to stress. Body's reacting 791 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: and this is its way of fighting. And now I'm like, okay. 792 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: That's where she's like, do you have history Alopeacha's like nope, 793 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,959 Speaker 1: surrounding family, nope. And then she's like, well, what's different 794 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: in your life? I'm like, oh, man, start a new job. 795 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: You know I used to play used to play that 796 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: breath because waiting somebody, I think I kicked my feet 797 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,720 Speaker 1: up on and I got a new job, a new job. 798 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm waking up it for him. And she's just kind 799 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 1: of listening, and I'm like, I used to have another 800 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: job and I used to wake up, you know, seven 801 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: or eight. And she didn't understand football. She's like, I 802 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: don't know he follow football. I'm like, well, waking up 803 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: at four him is one thing. Moving to the East 804 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: Coast is another thing. But also this job, I just 805 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: really want to be good at it, man. And she's like, oh, well, 806 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: that's it. Like you you're stressed out because of your job. 807 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: You're you're worrying and you're not embracing you know how 808 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: much this means to you. I was like, no, no, no, 809 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: I'm not stressed. You know now my egos kicking at 810 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 1: the defensive Yeah, I'm not stressed. Well, what are you 811 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: talking about? And I'm like, no, my old job. I 812 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: used to have these these linebackers and safeties. They used 813 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: to try to like break me in half. Like that 814 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: was stressful. And I'm like smiling as I'm telling her 815 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: that part, and she's like like, look at the joy 816 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: when you talk about football. That didn't stress you out. 817 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: It might have been difficult, but you loved it this 818 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: new job. When you start talking about that, you weren't smiling. 819 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: And she was like, you have to figure out how 820 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: to balance your energy, and if you do a better 821 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: job doing that, your beard will come back. And sure 822 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: enough I did. I start to focus and just be 823 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more strategic and not saying yes to everything, 824 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, because when we leave the game, it's like 825 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: we feel like we have to say yes to everything 826 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: to prove to everybody that I'm so much more than 827 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: a football player. But then I figured out that that 828 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: was detrimental and I had to be a little bit 829 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: more selective. Man. I mean, you just gave us a 830 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: lot and I love that too. Right is learn how 831 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: to balance your energy. Everybody uses it in different terms 832 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: or found in your inner piece or whatever that may be. 833 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: But balancing your energy because you naturally have a lot 834 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: of things going on. Naturally, that's your type. But you 835 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: know I will use that when I get home as well, 836 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: you know, balance balance, Yeah, really, probably do a better 837 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 1: job of balancing my energy. I think my kids are 838 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: like Dad, You're always serious all the time, I was like, 839 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: but I'm not. But yeah, ever since hearing you say that, yeah, 840 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a that's gonna that's gonna 841 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: be serious all the time. Yeah, because I'm always like 842 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: the authoritative like but I know me and I'm like, 843 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm the jokes like, I'm always playing pranks and I'm 844 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: always telling jokes like, but but you're an authoritative figure 845 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: in the household. 846 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 4: Correct. 847 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: So when they when in the hand comes down, it's 848 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: it's usually usually do this, do that. Yeah, it is 849 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: always wait till your dad gets home. You know, I've 850 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: been hearing that, I'm. 851 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 4: Gonna do that. 852 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to, you know, be more be more 853 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: fun loving and yeah, a little more balanced, a little 854 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 1: more balanced. This is something I want to know from you. 855 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: And that is like, all right, after year and a half, 856 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 1: end of CBS in the morning, where is your comfort 857 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: level on that now? I'm really comforting you dress. Your 858 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: dress is going there really really helps you out probably huge. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, girl, 859 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: she's awesome. Man, I'm really comfortable now. And it's and 860 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: it's because of you know, how I see myself on air. 861 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm being next as well. Because like 862 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: that's a good question, because that's always like what you 863 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: think about what's next. Yeah. I think my comfort also 864 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 1: came in the form of the team I'm working with. 865 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: So at CBS Mornings, I didn't realize that you had 866 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: your own team of people, your assistant producers. I didn't know. 867 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: Like I came from Good Morning Football, where yeah, we 868 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: had people that worked on the show, but they weren't 869 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: like our assistant. Yes signed to me. So I remember 870 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 1: getting there yea, and they was like, hey, so, who 871 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: you do you want your assistant to be. I'm like, 872 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: I get an assistant. Yeah. So the producers are going 873 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: to start putting in their names to work with you. 874 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: I'm like, they're gonna work with me alone. They're like, yeah, 875 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: to tell your stories. So when I go to sit 876 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: with Bill Russell or Frank O'Hare rest in peace to 877 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: both of them, or you know Obama or Michael J. 878 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: Fox or Parry Gordy, it's a team of people that 879 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: put together these stories. So I can tell any story 880 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: I want as long as I pitch it, and we 881 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 1: can build out the characters as we call it in TV, 882 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: and then we can execute it. And I just like, 883 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: for a long time. I didn't realize that I'm like, 884 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: damn like, morning news is a completely different animal when 885 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: it comes to storytelling, especially at CBS, it's the one 886 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: thing they hang their hat on. So that that's why 887 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm extremely comfortable. And then as far as what's next, 888 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: I have a production company. You know, it's called Watch, 889 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: which is an acronym for we are the culture House. 890 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 1: We have a few projects that we want to launch. 891 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: You know, I want to start doing work behind the 892 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 1: camera as well as an executive producer of some projects. 893 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: Going to start with a docuseries focus on sports and athletes, 894 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: not just on the field, but also what they do 895 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: off of it. And then just continue to flex my 896 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 1: creative muscles, you know, continue to write. There's a few 897 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: shows that I pitched that were based loosely based around 898 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: my life. Got a couple of nibbles at it, but 899 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: nothing is landed. So I just want to want to 900 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: do more, continue to expand and growing and uh and 901 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: step outside this box. So speaking of shows, you know, 902 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a fan of watching, So what's a 903 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: what's a bigger thrill? 904 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 4: So SNL did a. 905 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: Parody you remember that, and you also got recognized by 906 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: al Pacino on the red card, so bigger thrill. You 907 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: did this voice over tool decent. 908 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, being recognized with al Pacino. 909 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: SNL was fired. Don't get me wrong, I was crazy. 910 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: I was right for the Super Bowl. I think it 911 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: was Chris Red Yeah, and they had these these funky 912 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: little little he had the braids in he had the 913 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: the Tyler Perry braids that you have this movie. I 914 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: thought I thought that was Fire but al Pacino though, 915 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: Like I was working for Extra at the time, I 916 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: think it was The Irishman. Yeah, and uh, you know, 917 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: I just got four hours from movie, so I'm just 918 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: doing my thing, you know. I talked to narrow And 919 00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: and a few other people that are starting in it, 920 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, hey, hell, can I talk to you? 921 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: Comes over and I'm like, you know, just humbly, Hey, 922 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: how you doing. My name is, yeah, I know who 923 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: you are. Nice to meet you. And I'm like, wait, 924 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: you know who I am? Yeah? Yeah, you play receiver. Yeah, yeah, 925 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: you do the Football show. And I'm like yeah yeah, 926 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: and I'm immediately I'm sweating, like back of my knees 927 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: is sweating, and I'm like nervous. Yeah, I'm like, Yo, 928 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: this is crazy. I have to like collect myself. I 929 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: looked at that camera. Man, I'm like, just give me 930 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,959 Speaker 1: a second, Like, Mistercino, you for real. He's like, yeah, 931 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm a big football fan. And I'm like, Yo, this 932 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: is wild right now. And then I got back into 933 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: my mode as a professional and interviewed them and and 934 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: so yeah, that that's pretty cool man. The people that 935 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: you look at and you've seen all their movies recognize you. 936 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: That'll sweet. All right, this is something peanut. I would 937 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: love to know who's got the most that all of us. 938 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: You probably do. But how many pair of shoes you got? 939 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: I saw Robinson? Yeah, yeah, you brought out some. He 940 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: got some heat. You got to meat, I would say. 941 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: I was saying about, do you have a number count 942 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: in your head? Yeah? I think I got like four 943 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: hundred shoes. Four in the shoes, this tennis shoes or 944 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: dress tennis shoes, dress shoes. All my dress shoes upstairs 945 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: in my closet. My my tennis shoes and kicks are 946 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 1: downstairs in my sneaker room. So yeah, I love kicks. 947 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 1: I've always loved kicks. That's kind of like my thing, man, 948 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm golet don't change sizes for a long Yeah. Yeah, 949 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: that's a fact. Nike deal. He was able to you 950 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean, That's what I did a lot 951 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 1: of that before I returned. I spent like thousands of 952 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: dollars on that night. Get count Like I loaded up 953 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: everything and everybody I loaded up on it and they 954 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,399 Speaker 1: were young. I was like, you're getting the size six 955 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 1: wis seven y eight wie. See that's smart. I didn't 956 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: do that. I did all that from I should have 957 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: got all these sizes knowing they was gonna come back. 958 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I did, so I didn't have to buy. 959 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: Shoes for miss It was like I just got it. 960 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 1: My boys. My my son's one six three, one six four. 961 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: There was a brief moment where my middle child near 962 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: my seventeen now, he was like seventh grade, big old foot, 963 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: he's the size twelve and he's like, Dad, can I 964 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: wear you shoes? School? Cool? My shoes? It's fine. Son. 965 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: So he picked like one of my like exclusively lebron kicks. 966 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 1: Man boy came back. Them things were so beat up. 967 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: I was like, what was you doing? 968 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 2: Bro? 969 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: He's it was. It was like a gladiator He's like, Bro, 970 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 1: we played a Super Bowl, we had a basketball game, 971 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: and then it was soccer, and then then we also 972 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: played kickball. I'm like, first of all, how long were 973 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: you guys outside? My shoes was beat up and I said, 974 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: they mind. Here's the thing, man, you know, I love you, 975 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 1: but unless you learn how to respect my shoes, you 976 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: will never put on another pair ever. And that was 977 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,839 Speaker 1: the lesson of the day, was like, this is how 978 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: we take care of shoes moving forward. 979 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still like that with my son. 980 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 1: They already know don't touch my stuff because they do 981 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: they're not my son. 982 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,240 Speaker 4: Just like anything that that we have, it's. 983 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 1: Gonna happen soon, It's gonna happen soon. I'm trying to 984 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: have a favorite pair. Yeah. Yeah, the Concord Jordan. I'm yeah, 985 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: like the Blacks all the space Damer. Listen if you can, 986 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: if you can go on the course and hoop and 987 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 1: then where to a promp Come on, bro, like aay 988 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: you do anything from it's a fire. It's a fire, kid. 989 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: I guess the final question we have for today is 990 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, you've had a successful life, an amazing career, 991 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: and you're continuing to just kill it. Who would be 992 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: on your personal mount rushmore, people that have had just 993 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 1: influencing you, people that have mentors you helped you along 994 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: the way, helped you along this journey, help you to 995 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: get you where you are right now. I would say 996 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: one of my mom and dad. They have been my 997 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: biggest supporters on and off the field, and they've always 998 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: they've always seen more in me than I've seen than myself. 999 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: So I have to shot them out and it's just 1000 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 1: staying within the family circle for right now. My wife, 1001 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: she former track star. She won indoor hurdles as a senior, 1002 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 1: so she's a champion, graduated then graduated with her masters. 1003 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 1: Beautiful woman really had the world in front of her 1004 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: and put everything on hold to follow me chase this 1005 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: dream of the NFL. So if she wasn't married to me, 1006 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: she'd probably be some woman running some fortune five hundred company. 1007 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 1: But you know, she put all of her dreams on 1008 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: the shelf. So without her support, I don't think I'd 1009 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 1: be here. But as far as like men that have 1010 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: like men or women that have been there as a 1011 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: support system, Straighthand has always been there because there's these 1012 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,439 Speaker 1: comparisons that happen and he has constantly told me you're 1013 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 1: different than me. Be different, you know, you don't have 1014 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,760 Speaker 1: to try to be like me. And if you're different 1015 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: and you're better in the areas that you bring to 1016 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: the table that I can't bring to the table, this 1017 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: this business is going to open up his doors to you. 1018 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,280 Speaker 1: And I always thought that was dope because it wasn't 1019 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: like there's only room in this town for one of us, 1020 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: you know, it was the opposite. It was I'm gonna 1021 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: make room for you, which is why I want to 1022 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 1: make room for everybody else. Gail. Gail has been such 1023 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: an influence and she's just a dope woman because she's 1024 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 1: constantly trying to build people up and allow them to grow. 1025 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: Like so she'll have assistance and producers, but as soon 1026 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 1: as she feels like they have kind of reached their 1027 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: peak where they are, She's like, leave the nest and 1028 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: I'll be the first one to stamp your approval anywhere. 1029 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 1: I'll be the one that, yeah, gives the recommendations. You know, 1030 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: instead of just like hogging all the talent, she puts 1031 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: the talent on and then allows tim allows them to 1032 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: leave and grow and then just like I think collectively, 1033 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, and I said it at the beginning, I'll 1034 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 1: say it again, it's the brotherhood of the NFL. Like 1035 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 1: you know when I said that, I've seen you guys 1036 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: as athletes on the field, but that pales in comparison 1037 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 1: to what you guys have done that I truly mean that, 1038 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: and we don't say it enough. But I just love 1039 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: watching y'all work. And that goes for the rest of 1040 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: this fraternity. There's so many men doing great things across 1041 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: all spaces. Of course in football, back into the game 1042 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: on a low level like Pop Warner, all the way 1043 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 1: up until the league. There's guys that are coaches or assistants, 1044 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 1: are working for teams that are doing a fantastic job. 1045 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: But from the men that have went into the medical field, 1046 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 1: law enforcement, the finance world, art, the creatives, I just 1047 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: think like there's no better motivation than knowing that the 1048 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: guys that bled like me, gave everything, they got everything 1049 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: they gave to the game like I did, are sailing 1050 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: in other spaces and that that gives me all the 1051 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: hope in the world to know that we can continue 1052 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 1: to do whatever we want. Man, football is it's it's 1053 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 1: a beautiful sport, and I don't want to be dismissive 1054 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: of the careers we had because it is like being 1055 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 1: a rockstar with pads on, for sure. But if we 1056 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: can do that at a high level, man, we can 1057 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: accomplish anything in this world, no doubt, you know. 1058 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 4: What, no doubt. 1059 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: Two things I really loved about that whole breakdown. Number 1060 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: one was that, I mean creatives got their own space, yes, 1061 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: and that the whole description right, yes, no doubt, no doubt, 1062 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. Enforcement creators are right there, bro, 1063 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 1: Actors and producers got like Matthew Cherry, who's who's an 1064 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,879 Speaker 1: Oscar winner, He's a director. You know, guys like that 1065 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: that have have done such a good job. But I 1066 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 1: will say this though, before I go, I got to 1067 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 1: hook you all up with some suits, man, And I 1068 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 1: mean that you're not free of charge. You know that 1069 00:53:55,560 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: bangs and bakers, the brand this I got you down. 1070 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,320 Speaker 1: Let me let me let me off straight handsome suits, 1071 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: straight hand suits. See, you ain't got to buy the first. 1072 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 1: I'mnna hook you up first. I'm just trying to see 1073 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,839 Speaker 1: me and we do everything from traditional suits. We call 1074 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 1: this like the jump Man suit. We have joggers. It 1075 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: was built as a brand to allow guys to look 1076 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 1: fresh while not overcharging them. You know what I'm saying, 1077 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 1: because you guys, remember we first came in and then 1078 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 1: people was with the Walkers, and but they was getting us. 1079 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: The price was killing us. And on top of that 1080 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: they had to they had the women in there like, oh, 1081 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 1: fill you up, get you right. So so one quick thing, 1082 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: because you're the real professional in this whole business, I 1083 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 1: want you to wrap the show for us. Man, give 1084 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 1: us a tell them let it be gone. Speaking to 1085 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,359 Speaker 1: the camera, let them know. Oh yeah, well listen, man, 1086 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: we out of here. iHeart radio. You know this is uh, 1087 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: this is the the main stage for guys like this 1088 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: to give individuals like me the stage to show that 1089 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 1: what we have done in the league, it is it 1090 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,400 Speaker 1: is a small part of who we are and what 1091 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: we're doing now is is truly a representation of how 1092 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:13,359 Speaker 1: gifted athletes really are. I'm peanut A's Room. That's Nate. 1093 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: NFL Player Segments podcast. Were We out 1094 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 3: H