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Speaker 1: we have Adam Berman from Red Workshop that's the new

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Speaker 1: gonna baff for you. Yeah, okay. So Red Workshop is

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Speaker 1: a group of cannabis pioneers, operators, and futuristics continually defining

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Speaker 1: Red Workshop dot Com. Welcome to the show. What the

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Speaker 1: You don't even know how you be interviewed and never

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Speaker 1: he said, you said that this is your third interview,

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Speaker 1: but then then but to find that spiritually and I

426
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 1: didn't even find mine. Tell even meeting these guys and

427
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 1: seeing what cannabi has done. So I'm like three years

428
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 1: away from I started smoking at six, but seeing the

429
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 1: benefit and me feeling like, no, this plant has real medicinal,

430
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 1: Like I'm on this kick hardcore, but that wasn't ntil

431
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Speaker 1: what three years ago. And I've been sober too three

432
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 1: years and what I'm saying like twenty three years sober

433
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 1: going it's been against me what I my beliefs, and

434
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,439
Speaker 1: I had to like readjust my what I've been stamped

435
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 1: to believe to be like, oh no, I gotta I

436
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 1: gotta take out that an a thought that's been putting

437
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 1: my head. And I'm seeing things differently now, folks on

438
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 1: and I do. So my point is I see what

439
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 1: mine was. We know blues are what was your with

440
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 1: you on that? So? How did that happen? Maybe he

441
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 1: didn't have one? No, he does, he says he has one.

442
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 1: He does that's what happens. That's how he created Medman.

443
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,400
Speaker 1: Listen to the guy that has my social Security Yeah,

444
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 1: I just said maybe not. He said it because he

445
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 1: had one. And then yeah, that one. So we can

446
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 1: go back to how it went from the stores to

447
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, being called Madman in a second if you want.

448
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, this the that moment was definitely the Cannon

449
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: Moms in Florida. That was cannas love and yeah, that

450
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: was like. That was like and I'm I'm bad with dates. Um,

451
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: that's probably cause I'm a huge donor now, right, because

452
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm a better person now. That means the date suck,

453
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: but hopefully I'm a better person whatever. Um, but uh,

454
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna guess two thousand fourteen ish. Um,

455
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm in Florida and I'm I'm speaking at

456
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 1: a conference. Uh. And afterwards, this spunky, audacious woman grabs

457
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 1: me and says, you know, we want to talk to you,

458
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay. So she brings me to a

459
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 1: table and it's a bunch of these spunky, audacious moms. Um.

460
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 1: I think they were all single moms. Maybe not all

461
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: of them, but I think they were. And they told

462
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 1: me their stories right about their kids and about accessing cannabis,

463
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 1: and about you know the fact that they were traveling

464
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: in Colorado to wait for the Stanley brothers Charlotte's Web

465
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: and that one of them had done it. It took

466
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 1: a year, They used their life savings and it wasn't

467
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 1: affective for their child. And it's like, well, no doubt

468
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: because there's no one size fits like it. Just take

469
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: a pill from the pharmacy and say it solves all ailments, right, um,

470
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: But that's what was going on at the time. Remember

471
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 1: Sunday Group to put out, you know, the Weed documentary

472
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 1: and everybody was on the CBD, you know, Charlotte's Web kick.

473
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: And so these moms grab me and told me their

474
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Speaker 1: story and said they have kids that are you know,

475
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 1: essentially you know, either comatose or they have druvets and

476
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: they're having a thousand seizures a day. One of them

477
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: had some horrible, horrible brain tumor that you know St.

478
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: Jus has said was inoperable, and you know all this stuff, um,

479
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: and their only chance was cannabis. And these women were

480
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 1: willing to give up everything and go break the law

481
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: and tremble across their kids them, and they told me

482
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: the story and they said, look, we've been talking, you know,

483
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: I whatever. It was a year ago. They said, you know,

484
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: we had a promise from uh Steve de' angelo up

485
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 1: at Harvard side that he was going to help us out.

486
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: We haven't heard back, Um, can you help us? And

487
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 1: I went outside and I called one of our partners

488
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: in Nevada at the time when we were applying for

489
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: a lot of licenses out there, and I said, I

490
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: know we're going to be successful, but my life just changed.

491
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: And as we are successful, we have to make sure

492
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: that we at least help these women and their kids.

493
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm getting goosebump say about but like

494
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: that was my moment, right, and so we end up

495
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: bringing them out. I am. I can say that I

496
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: have a ton of respect for Andrew D'Angelo, who you

497
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: should have on the show at some point. Let him

498
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: know he's uh, you know, shout out to you know,

499
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: one of the true pioneers that has brought this industry

500
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: to where it is. The Harbors, right, I mean, that's

501
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: the largest dispenser of the Bay Area. It's ridiculous, had

502
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: been killing it up and and and Andrew, you know

503
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 1: really deserves the credit for that. So he does, you know,

504
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: Steve legend to face and and the speaking and all that.

505
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: But Andrew was the guy running running that that business.

506
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: So I get a hold of Andrew and we tell

507
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: him what we're doing, and um, he's gracious enough to

508
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: offer up harborside, and you know, we figured it out

509
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: and we bring the moms and their kids out to

510
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: Oakland for I think a couple of weeks and uh

511
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: we had uh, we had some people in the industry

512
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: that we're making extracts participate and they would show up

513
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: daily and they would they would just trial dose these kids. Um,

514
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: and you think about the crazy ship we've done in

515
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 1: our lives. Like looking back, it's like, you know, like today,

516
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: who I am, Like I would be I think too

517
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: scared to do that, right. But you know when you

518
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: say that right again, it goes back to that mindset

519
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: of like we're we're from that industry. So you know,

520
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: in my home, cannabis was never illegal, right, so share

521
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 1: big of a deal. But but now it's it's like,

522
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, my my son's seventeen and he's like that

523
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: I want to get some weed and I'm growing my

524
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: own plants, and I'm like, dude, I'm freaking out because

525
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, what do you mean, Like you know

526
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: here you go, yeah, well he's seventeen, you know, but

527
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: but I'm even going further back and saying that. You know,

528
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: I've I've interviewed many of children that their parents were

529
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: felt like they're refugees, and they're like, well, here's the deal.

530
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: You know, I get a choice right now. Either give

531
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: my son some kind of medicine that's causing him, you know,

532
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: massive damage to his brain or his kidneys or whatever

533
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: it is every time he's it. Or I can try cannabis,

534
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, and the doctor stands, you know, I can

535
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: give him this, but it's gonna kill him in three months,

536
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a vegetable, but he'll have a better

537
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: quality of life. Instead, I'd rather give him cannabis. Right,

538
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: there's levels to agreed, right, So we you know that

539
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: the part about this story that keeps me going is,

540
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: you know, we have miracles happen in Oakland with these kids.

541
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: You watch the watched the miracles happen with these kids.

542
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: You know, I can't imagine it was heavy stuff. Um,

543
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: and you know, to this day. You know, I still,

544
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: you know, once in a while text with one of

545
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: those moms, but they're always in my heart. Uh. And

546
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, they changed, They changed me, they changed my

547
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: family's lives, and they I think they changed the world.

548
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 1: Um because without that, you know, I started without you know,

549
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: the ability to have a carly Senate apartment right at

550
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: that point in time, without them, like is it worth it?

551
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: You know, maybe not? But then it becomes a calling

552
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: right after that moment. Yeah, that that's amazing to think

553
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: that that's what helped change because that's a beautiful story.

554
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 1: You're helping children, you're helping family, which then is the

555
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: trickle effect of that because now those children you helped

556
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: and it's gonna help so many others from that well.

557
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: And and it really inspired me to go change laws,

558
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: right and I think, you know, probably the most important

559
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: thing that I did at Medman was change laws. Um.

560
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: And it was laws did you change or help change

561
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: or move or what are the ones? As you said? Uh,

562
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: when we got involved with uh with changing laws, it

563
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: was maybe two thousand and fifteen, um U two thou

564
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: and uh maybe a little before that it was with

565
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: Marijuana Policy Project, and you know we were the first

566
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 1: company to step up and almost through shame, you know,

567
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 1: try to you know, saddle rayber uh uh what am

568
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: I looking sad? Just stand up and born through our platform,

569
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: right shame the rest of the industry to donating, you know,

570
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: some of the money to changing the laws, because without

571
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: the laws changing, we have no industry, right And so

572
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: I always just believed that so much, and that you know,

573
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: we contributed so much towards that. Um, it's part of

574
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: our success. It's also part of you know, all the

575
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: expenses that med Men went through being the first. Right,

576
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: you have no business unless the law says you can

577
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: be there, and who's going to help pay for it

578
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: to be there if not the industry. But as you know,

579
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: right at this time, before med Men, the industry didn't exist.

580
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: It was a bunch of disparate people that were looking

581
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: out and scared that to a world they we're gonna

582
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: have to close up? What were they going to do?

583
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: Invest millions of dollars into the future, and then what

584
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: you have is you have you know, marijuana Policy Project

585
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: shocked the world, which is another story that's not told

586
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: and I think it's so rich. What a story is

587
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: They legalize weed in Colorado? Right, who's talking about the

588
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: fact that Colorado is the first place in the world,

589
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: in the world, let's just pause in the world to

590
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: have legal weed. And I love the story that MPP

591
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: did it for like less than five million bucks. Right,

592
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: So you talk about changing the world. That happened, right,

593
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: And then other places have somewhere to look to to say,

594
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: look at how this can work, right, um, And so

595
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, we really fueled that with our with our capital, um,

596
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: you know. And I can't say we changed anyone particular

597
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: law because you know, people have been working on changing

598
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: these laws for forty fifty sixty years. Right, this is

599
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: about passing the baton man, you know. And so yeah,

600
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: we did our part in our time. And I loved

601
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: probably my favorite story is Ohio. If you want to

602
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: get into the medical marijuana lawn, Ohio. I love what

603
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: we what took place for that to happen? I love

604
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: that story. What happen. There's no one law we changed, right, people, right, community, right,

605
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: this movement change these laws and the fact that it's

606
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: hypocritical nonsense they can exist in the first places. What

607
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: changes these laws? Well, and then they came out. I

608
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: mean if I'm not mistaken, right, Ohio came out by

609
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: like just you know, just outraging people are coming out

610
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: of the woodworks, right, if I'm not mistaken. They were

611
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: on the streets, right, like protesting on the streets over there.

612
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: You want to talk about Ohio, Ohio? Right, let's do it.

613
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: I know you mentioned that, all right, So how's one

614
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: of my favorite stories? So? Um you know I am

615
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: I am uh friendly at this point in time, have

616
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: been introduced to business people in Ohio that are pro cannabis.

617
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: And I'm also built this very strong relationship with Marijuana

618
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: Policy Project, you know, trying to figure out what states

619
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: to target, and they're using me to go help them

620
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: raise money in certain markets and to help bridge business

621
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: with you know, advocacy, um uh. And so in Ohio

622
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: a group of people get together and they spent about

623
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: twenty or twenty million dollars and again bad with dates,

624
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: maybe two thousand, what right, they spent bucks and they

625
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: wrote a constitutional amendment to legalize medical and recreational marijuana

626
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: at the same time, um. And the only people that

627
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: were going to get the licenses they were predetermined by

628
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: parcels of land that were written in to the law.

629
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: So it says like we're going to issue this many

630
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: grow licenses, and these are the addresses that are going

631
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: to happen that will have them. And so obviously you

632
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: know these in this, this group that got put together,

633
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: they bought this all the land, they wrote this stuff,

634
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: and then then benefited from it because it's their land.

635
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: They got crushed, right work, So this whole time, it's like,

636
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Speaker 1: how the fund are you gonna it's only in this

637
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Speaker 1: I don't know, cousin Larry, uncle Benny, come on, we

638
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Speaker 1: put it in the hat and we drawed, but we

639
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Speaker 1: just guessed. We didn't know where we owned that. We

640
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Speaker 1: didn't know. It still goes down like that. Like even

641
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: at this moment, I feel like sometimes it's just everything

642
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: is so crazy. It does. It happens like that here, right,

643
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: but it's right like whoever running this is gonna be

644
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: a green zone And all of a sudden it's you know,

645
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: it's not someone got involved. You know, something got fishy.

646
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: I owned my building there, no more, you didn't have

647
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: it there. And I'm on this board here and I

648
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: don't own that building there. It's not gonna be okay. Yeah,

649
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: I believe it goes down there way. So so so

650
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: they say, spend all this money, they do the TV ads,

651
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: they do all the hype, and they lose. And the

652
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: whole time Marijuana Policy Project with me kind of you know,

653
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: paying attention is telling them they're going to lose um

654
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: for lots of reasons. Um, and that for a lot

655
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: less money they could win um if they weren't so

656
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 1: fucking greedy. Um. And we're more realistic, right. And at

657
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: the time, MPP was on a roll right ballot you know,

658
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: MPP invented this concept of changing laws through ballot initiatives

659
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: for marijuana. We take it so for granted now, but

660
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: you know that was a radical idea back then. Um.

661
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: And so these guys took MPPs idea and they perverted

662
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: it right for their own gain. So Rob, you know,

663
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: the MP head of MPP kept telling them it wasn't

664
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Speaker 1: gonna work. Obviously, it failed miserably. And we're in Las

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00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: Vegas at the m J Biz conference that next November. Again,

666
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the date, but I promise you whoever

667
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: is listening to the people that go to that conference,

668
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: now we're not talking about the same conference. Okay, that's

669
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Speaker 1: the whole it was at the rio and the room

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00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: upstairs and we uh so I'm with I'm with Rob,

671
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: and we're walking through and I see some of my

672
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: contacts in Ohio and I go, guys, we need to

673
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: connect with Rob. This was right after they lost and

674
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: we sat in a restaurant that was closed at a

675
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: in a booth um and it was like Rob saying, look,

676
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: you guys have sunk twenty plus million bucks into this,

677
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, for four or five million dollars, I think

678
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: you can legalize medical marijuana and you can do it quickly.

679
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: Oh I know exactly when this was. This was November

680
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: of four, of of fifteen, because the elect No, yeah,

681
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 1: the election was in November six Yes, November sixteen election.

682
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: Um uh And the RNC was in Ohio, was in Cleveland.

683
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: That was their convention that year. Okay. So Rob says,

684
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: for less than five million, we think we can get

685
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: it done. And they say, well, you know, we don't

686
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: know if we trust policy people. We need this to

687
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: be commercially viable for us. And it was like, well,

688
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: Adam Walbridge, the gap like, will make sure that it's

689
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: reasonable for you as business people, but it's not obnoxious.

690
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: And you know I spent a munch of time in Ohio,

691
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: and we put the money together and then we wrote

692
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: the draft Reg's right, and we wrote the ballot initiative,

693
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: balancing all the sides right, and I was right down

694
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: the middle. The business guys would say we want this,

695
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: and I would say, well, we can't get all of that.

696
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: And then right I worked with Rob and the mpp PO,

697
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: you know the policy make you know, people to say

698
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: what what will get done? So to fast forward? Um,

699
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, we raised the money to get the signatures,

700
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: we write the language. Um. And then out of nowhere,

701
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: a couple of months later, medical marijuana is legal in Ohio.

702
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: Some phone call takes place. Um, there's lobbyists working for us,

703
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: and then there's lobbyists you know, working for the governor's office. UM.

704
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: And a phone call takes place, and we have medical

705
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: marijuana in Ohio. And it looks like of what the program,

706
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, the the outline that we that we crafted,

707
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: and it was it was. It was wonderful, the fastest

708
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: in the history from no program to a program implemented.

709
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: And it was the result of the fact, I believe

710
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: firmly that they didn't want to be talking about legalizing

711
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: medical marijuana while they're talking about who's going to be

712
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: the next president United States? Which is which is? I mean,

713
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: how crazy is that? And where we come from. We

714
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: were involved in presidential politics in two thousand and sixteen,

715
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, and we used it to go ahead and

716
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: make the world safer, healthier, and happier by legalizing wife.

717
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful thing. And and then now go backwards

718
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: a little bit too, how did you guys come up with? Then? Medman,

719
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Speaker 1: Let's take a break and come back because I want

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Speaker 1: to get to that part of the story. It's Cannabis

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Speaker 1: Talk one on right back after this, we'll be right

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Speaker 1: back with Cannabis Talk one oh one. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk

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Speaker 1: very special guest, Adam Berman, of course with his new

734
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Speaker 1: company Read Workshop. But we've been talking with so many

735
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: interesting stories and I mean, you're like a they're just

736
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: so much more. We just see Freddie like, oh, Freddy,

737
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: we did some business ten years ago. There's so many

738
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: random things in the industry because you've been so involved

739
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: with it in the industry. And that being said, now

740
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: we're getting to the part where I want to hear

741
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: the story of so many great things. How did you

742
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: and your cohort come together to come up with men?

743
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: Men who made up even the name? And how did

744
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: that come together? Remember, and there was a bunch of

745
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: other stories about them, shouldn't yeah, exactly, a bunch of

746
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: different stories that weren't men men yet and it seems

747
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: like were they all made me? Like that? Ties in

748
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: So we have to go back because you had about

749
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: ten stores that you helped open up, open up with

750
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: your partner, and then I feel like, let them let

751
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: them go from there, Well, you go from where if

752
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: you want to start, but yeah, I walk us through

753
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: how it happens at because I'm so curious if you

754
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: want to, like, okay, well, yeah, we could talk for

755
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: fifteen hours. You want to skip to the first med

756
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: Men whichever I want. I want to get to how

757
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: it came. How did the company names powerful? If it's

758
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: more powerful to say it the way with the other stuff,

759
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: you know first and say that back. So I think

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00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: the first store that ever sounded like that was in

761
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: downtown l A. It was called med Man forty forty

762
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: cap remember those days before excise tax. Yeah, so Medman

763
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: forty and it was like a riff on Andrew and

764
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: my last names because I'm beer man and he's modeling,

765
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 1: and it was mod Man, and then it became med Men,

766
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: and then it became med Man, and Andrew did a

767
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: design of like the mad Men smoking the cigarette and

768
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: that was like the poster in the wall when you

769
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: walked in. It was on Broadway, uh complete you know

770
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: draft shop. Uh. And so that was the first time

771
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: we ever kind of riffed off of that Medman um

772
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: And we had other stores at the time that we

773
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: opened Medman forty and I think we opened a store

774
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: for a guy or with a guy named Herbman forty

775
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: which was down on Western. That store was really dope.

776
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: It was all purple inside with purple glasses. It was wild. Um.

777
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: But anyway, so we have Medman forty um, and then

778
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: once it gets to a play, swear we're gonna do

779
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: this for scale. It just made sense to make it plural,

780
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: so it was med Men forty um. I never slowed

781
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: down to think, well, am I infringing on the mad

782
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: Men thing? Is this going to be a problem? And

783
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: we opened the West Hollywood store and called it that.

784
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: I remember somebody grabbed me and said, did you see

785
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: the creator of mad Men's post on Instagram. I'm like, oh,

786
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: we're in trouble, and they're like, he loves it. Hey.

787
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I appreciate it, um, not that it

788
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: was an oh you know, but like it all worked out,

789
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: like I didn't steal that from I even think that,

790
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sorry. And I didn't even think

791
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: that that was the first stores West Hollywood, you know,

792
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: And that's that's really the store that, you know, out

793
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: of all of our stores, right there's the fifth Avenue.

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00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: That's the one I seen on Jimmy Kimmel. When I

795
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: see you guys on Jimmy Kimmel, I'm like, wait a minute,

796
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: Kimmel is doing a bit from med Men, and I'm like,

797
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: you guys are killing it right. And then I look

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00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: at even all the things like what you or let

799
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: me ask did you put together the let me teach

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00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: bud tenders that Madman? Because when they went to bed Medman,

801
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: I've heard you've had bud tender training. Is that part

802
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: of your Yeah, under your watch and seeing that's when

803
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: I've heard which I want to get into all the

804
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: stories that I've heard about Adam taking this, doing the money, that,

805
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: doing this, buying. Hold on, did you buy a plane?

806
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: You guys have a plane from me here? Did you

807
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 1: buy a plane? I heard rumors you I remember hearing

808
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: or reading that Adam Burr and CEO whatever and Medman

809
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: bought a plane. I'm gonna ask you directly, did you

810
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: buy a plane? Did the company? That's what's funny, Doug,

811
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: how even should I said? That's why I want to

812
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: ask you directly. That's why even said I want to

813
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: ask you these questions. How does he even a story

814
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: out there? Or do you even know him there? Let

815
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: him build the company first, and then let's let's yeah,

816
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: then let me tear apart the rumors. Okay, West starting,

817
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: Oh so you got the first store, which I said,

818
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: see on Jimmy Kimmel. Where is it evolve to? I mean,

819
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: we're the first of everything right, and made a certain

820
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: point in time the stars aligned. You start reading stories.

821
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,479
Speaker 1: We're talking abou medmen just opened up in this state.

822
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: That's we do an inbreaking story. We were covering, We're covering.

823
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: You're like, you know, I mean it's CNN. There was

824
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: this period of time, like two thousand and fifteen to eighteen,

825
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: right where everything opens up because of who we are

826
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Speaker 1: at what point in history, and all of our previous

827
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: experience and all the lessons and all the stuff where

828
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: it just lines up. You know. It's like when when

829
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Speaker 1: a team wins a championship. You know, you're like, how

830
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: did that happen? It's like, well, fucking it all lined up, right?

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Speaker 1: It all worked you at Superstars, you had you know,

832
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: you had like good chemistry, you had some luck. You know,

833
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: everything worked out. You didn't have injury. Was it was

834
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: going you guys were winning from the color scheme, the

835
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: whole Apple feel when you walk in. You guys set

836
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Speaker 1: the bar. I said that from remember we I was like, dude,

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Speaker 1: mad Men is right here in my book. That's what

838
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: I was saying, the way they set it up. And

839
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: I gave praise to you, and it was funny. I

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00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: go this, dude, Adam, I don't even know you. I

841
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: just had your idea and you're so security, but I

842
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: didn't know you never was really trying to get the gig.

843
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: But the point is I looked at what you've done,

844
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: and you start to this company with your partner as genius.

845
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: And then when people going which reading, they're going too hard.

846
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: They're going too hard. I always said, they will never fail.

847
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: Hear me, now, believe me later Why because they're too strong.

848
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: They're doing too many big and good things that I like.

849
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: And if they need money, they're gonna sell some ship.

850
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: Like any other big company. They bought a bunch of ship.

851
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: They bought too much, they did too much. I like it.

852
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: I like this company, Well just sell off. My thought was,

853
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, we had some some debates

854
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: with people on the show about whether or not Men

855
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: Men would go under, and Joe and I were very

856
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: adamant the whole time saying it's not going under, like

857
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 1: it's too big a company. Someone will acquire it right

858
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: before this the field, before the whole thing sinks, like

859
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: somebody it will just say, well I can still use that,

860
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: how about that? And I'm not saying that it was sinking.

861
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that they had to feel something. It's like,

862
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: it's like saying that you know, Nike's gonna go out

863
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: of business. They's like they could, they could run the

864
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: company off the fucking side of a cliff, and someone's like, well,

865
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: I'll acquire that. I think there's two there's two universes here, right,

866
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: and I think, um, if we want to really understand

867
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: things like, you have to start there. There's the universe

868
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: of the public markets and the you know, institutional investor world, right,

869
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: which is probably a universe that like it's never even

870
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: listened to the show, understands the show or whatever be

871
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: on this show, Um, you know uh. And in that

872
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: world there are these day trading retail investors right that

873
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: mix with that world and they kind of follow those trends.

874
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: And then you have the reality of you know, our

875
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: physical world here today about what's real and what's not right.

876
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: And so when you say it's too big, what I

877
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: say is, you know, Men Men has the best retail

878
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: assets in the world, right and completely defensible. We built

879
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: a Fifth Avenue store. And so you know, if we

880
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: talk about good decisions bad decisions, for me, it's all

881
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: about what point in history, right. So when I built

882
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: the Fifth Avenue store, I believe that we would be

883
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: legal in New York in the next couple of years,

884
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: and I believe that the street would support us in

885
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: supporting and carrying the cost of a store on Fifth Avenue.

886
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: That would introduce the world you know that's visiting you know,

887
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: New York to legal weed. And once it went adult use,

888
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: that would be a fifty million dollar year store. So

889
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: is that store going anywhere? Like No, It's the only

890
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: store on Fifth Avenue that's gonna be there like that,

891
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: because as you guys know, there's all the defensible like

892
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: zoning stuff for the real estates about being first. So

893
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: at a point in history today when Men Men's trading

894
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: near an all time low, as an investor, right, you

895
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: realize Men Men's market cap isn't even like reflective of

896
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: four of those stores I mentioned, Like I could take

897
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: four flagship stores and say they're alone worth more and

898
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: Men Men has thirty stores and five or six states plus,

899
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: and I would say that to going those big stores

900
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: are paying for those other stories. So just so just

901
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: be real about where we are in the arc of history.

902
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: Because when we raised the first private equity fund ever

903
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: for Weed and we raise a hundred fifty million dollars

904
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: and we deployed and everybody's making money. Everybody wanted that growth,

905
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: like being first, carried with it all the opportunities, right,

906
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: and we were first for so long, and then you know,

907
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: as soon as the music stops, and you know, you

908
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: kind of have to tread water for a while, whether

909
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 1: that's because you made a bad decision, whether that's because

910
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: you've got unlucky, whatever, whatever it is. When you're going

911
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: that hard, it's like this weird thing that that investor

912
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: universe wants that. That's why they're backing you, that's why

913
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: they're patting me on the back. Everybody's go go go,

914
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: Adam's going hard. They're really telling you what to deal

915
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: and that's what they want. And they're competing your money.

916
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: Here's money, here's money. Go get it done, Go get

917
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: it done. You're saying we're gonna do it, and they're going, fun, Yeah,

918
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna do more than that. How much do you

919
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: need to get it done? Here's more. And then when

920
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: the market sees up or when for example, with us

921
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: on the thing was far mechanic, right, we did this

922
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,959
Speaker 1: the biggest min a deal in the history of weed.

923
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: Back to stories that aren't told, right, we did the

924
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: biggest m a. You're part of those Were you part

925
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: of those raises? I mean, was that something that your

926
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: spirit head and at home you were bringing it all

927
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: in unfortunate unfortunately, as I pray. That's why I say,

928
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you this earlier, but we praised you

929
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: like you this dude has a genius. Well yeah, if

930
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 1: you you could go back to a ton of shows

931
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: and we've we've talked highly of you for for a

932
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: lot of times. And because listen, you're building a plane

933
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: in the middle of there are buying one about you

934
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: or buying it or buying one and then building it

935
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: right and and and and it's bed man, you know,

936
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: it's this massive machine that no one ever invents and

937
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: still is that still is the from part you know

938
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you look at it. It's still there.

939
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,479
Speaker 1: If they've started, they're still doing it. It's still five

940
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: years five years that maybe the assets are worth two

941
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: billion dollars like you know, I don't know it will be.

942
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: So look at how we look at how all this

943
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: stuff works. Like in real time today, there's the value

944
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: for the investors that buy the public stock in real

945
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: time today, there are the undred employees or whatever the

946
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: number is that are earning you know, union wages because

947
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 1: we were the first nationally union kind of company like that.

948
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: You know, in you guys, you are the pioneer of

949
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: doing that, and I reapplaud you for that because we've

950
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: recognized what you've done, putting your neck on the line,

951
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: going into these communities where it was a taboo and

952
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: doing it and standing on the soap box saying this

953
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 1: is medicine and this is everything. God blessed those women

954
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: in Florida that changed your whole value. And look for

955
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: it because hopefully those kids and so many kids are

956
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: benefit from it. Because you've done a lot of great

957
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: things with this company and you crashed some ship. It's

958
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: about that being said. Yeah, let's talk about the things

959
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: that we've read and heard, because I remember hearing a well,

960
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: first off, and here's the thing. We've all done it.

961
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: That's the thing, Dog, when we look at you and

962
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying we because we've talked about you without knowing you,

963
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: and we've gone like I'm just tapping you. We've done

964
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: some like this, do this dude's built a vision and

965
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: did he take that money? So, and I don't even

966
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: know the story because I've only heard of some random bullshit.

967
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: I feel like, Dog, but I've heard and we've reported

968
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: and seen stories Adam Berman's ceo embezzling this and kicked

969
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: them off of this. It's been like fucking headline knew

970
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: it was like here's a Kardashian right, Like there was

971
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: a Kardashian moment for you. I feel like with me

972
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: and my research, and I think I felt like you

973
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: were the Kardashian of cannabis because your name and Medman

974
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: and like the whole logo to me was ah, that

975
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: big red and white the Apple store. You're up here

976
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: and then he did what? So talk about some of

977
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: these stories that you've read, seen and heard about yourself.

978
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: What is true? What is not? You said plane not true.

979
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: That's the first one I heard you didn't buy a plane,

980
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: then no, it's just my deposition. Nod. However, never had

981
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 1: enough do you think guys who gets into the business

982
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: who couldn't afford one case of food? That is the

983
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: case over? Yes? And what were you guilty? And our

984
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: guilty of any they actually it was so it was

985
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: so on the other side, right. A lot of the

986
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: stems from this CFO who was just a complete, you know,

987
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: piece of ship who walked out in the middle James Parker.

988
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: He walked down the middle of the day because he

989
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: couldn't do his job and he didn't like the fact

990
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: that us to being accountable for his stuff, right, it

991
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: had to be somebody else's fault, and he held us

992
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: hostage and extored us. He wanted at the time, like

993
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: some crazy number and the eight figure range to come

994
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: back and to be a CFO and and and effectuated

995
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: transition and you know, back to like the real stories, right,

996
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: being who we were, and then the character that I

997
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: was at that time being who we were, like you said,

998
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 1: pioneer the first through which you know, I am really

999
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: appreciative that you see that, right, but also let's also

1000
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: appreciate that the first person busting through the door in

1001
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: any kind of war scenario is getting fucking shot. Um

1002
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: it's it's the people from everywhere, right, I'm like the

1003
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: crazy dude that busted through so many of these doors,

1004
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: and you're like with all the holes, how, what's like,

1005
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: are you still standing? And I'm like, yes, next door

1006
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: and right behind me. Once I walked through this last door,

1007
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: which was really you know, institutionalizing, which would be the

1008
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: word right, like the asset class, making it legit, making

1009
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: it investable, creating public currency for it. Once I broke

1010
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: through that door, right, I couldn't. I couldn't go anymore.

1011
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was done. Um uh. But

1012
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: I also had done my job. Right. It's like I

1013
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: I fall to the finish line, and now we have

1014
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: an industry, you know, bigger than Cole employing all these people.

1015
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: Everybody's listed like on you know public It's amazing. But

1016
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: but I couldn't make it. And that's because part of

1017
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: going through all those doors was there had to be

1018
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: a caricature. This is how I look at it, you know,

1019
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: my analysis of this, There had to be a caricature.

1020
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: Whoever was the face of the mainstreaming of marijuana South

1021
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: Park was gonna do an episode on them. It didn't

1022
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: matter if it was me, right, and you know it

1023
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: didn't matter. Well, of course I love you. That's what

1024
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: do you know? You made it. That's what I said.

1025
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's what I said. That's

1026
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: what I but. But wasn't South Park and wasn't Late

1027
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: Night TV gonna do something about whatever was? If it was,

1028
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: you believe me, you're all the isms and the ists

1029
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: and the this and the that, and you're spoiled and

1030
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: you're this, and you're buying planes and you're like and

1031
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: the funny part always for me was, you know, to

1032
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: do all of this right, I'm out of my fucking mind.

1033
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it now like I was a monomaniacal lunatic, right,

1034
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 1: just possessed every day, you know. You I look around

1035
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: about my calendar now, like you know, I would wake

1036
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: up and I'd have breakfast in New York, lunch in Toronto,

1037
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: and then fucking dinner in West Hollywood, you know, like

1038
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: that kind of insanity. Um, and and that's all day normal,

1039
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: that's a fucking day need to happen, right, And that's

1040
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: the type of stuff. So that was the life you live.

1041
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: So I was doing that and then late night TV, right,

1042
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: you would what you would character caricature of the first

1043
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: weed dealer to legitimize and put a suit on, go

1044
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: on Fox or CNBC, right would be, oh, must be

1045
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: trust fund privilege? Why you know all the other stuff

1046
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: that then came with that, you know. And then when

1047
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: Parker files his lawsuit, right, he adds all the ists

1048
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: and isms and it's like, what the fuck me? You

1049
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: know you got well no, he sued for wrongful termination, saying, hey,

1050
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: I can't do my job. I want money anyways because

1051
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: I don't believe in myself and you know I'm worth nothing.

1052
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: And then to try to extort us, he added all

1053
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: the ists and isms um to try to get us

1054
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: to fold. And this is my last stand where I go,

1055
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna die, I'll die, but I'm not going

1056
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: to pitch out here like I'm not full right, And

1057
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: so it takes three years and I keep my mouth shut,

1058
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: to keep my mouth shut the whole time, right, And

1059
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: then we go have this trial and he is so

1060
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: he has made up everything to such an extreme that

1061
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: the jury comes back and actually says you're in the

1062
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: wrong to him and we need to figure out how

1063
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: much money you owe these guys for the last three years.

1064
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: And then they say, well, sorry, we can't quantify that number,

1065
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: so we'll just have it like basically in the record,

1066
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: like he funked up. We didn't. But the story, the

1067
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: story always lands on you, and it's the caricature of me.

1068
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: And I have to be okay with that because you

1069
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: know it's okay though. The blessing of this curse is

1070
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: this dude, and it's not like curse. The blessing and

1071
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: the curse is you get to experience that, and he's

1072
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: done it. And once your mind expanse from its original form,

1073
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: it never goes back. And so you now walk that

1074
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: line that you know many have had that I understand

1075
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: that you're able to do it again. You get the

1076
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: power to decide whether or not you want to do

1077
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: it again, you know. And it doesn't have to be

1078
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: that business. Maybe it's something else, but that the exercising

1079
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: that your brain has allowed to expand is by far

1080
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: more than worse than either sword or word that could

1081
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: be harmed or formed against you. It's almost impossible. So

1082
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: congratulations for that. Like I'm a fan, you know what

1083
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean. And we both are, and we both are Adam.

1084
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: And that being said as a fan and as a broadcaster,

1085
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: here I think of one more story that I hear

1086
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: that well, I don't know. The funnier thing is, I

1087
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I know of two things

1088
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: that I've heard, to be honest with you, right, the

1089
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: plane was one of them, and that he embezzled five

1090
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: million dollars by a home and maybe two million four

1091
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, and maybe it made up five in

1092
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: my head, but I don't know. Let's let people into

1093
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of what my life was because it's entertaining,

1094
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: even though looking back, I'm like, that's funny, but it

1095
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: was me having to do it. But also then it

1096
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 1: sheds lights on these stories and on on my personal

1097
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: medmen stories, but also on how this industry happened. Right,

1098
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: So I love talking about I love now talking about

1099
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: it with you. So here's a story. So we finally

1100
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: pull off being able to be listed on the Canadian

1101
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: Securities Exchange. And when we were listed there, our market capitalization,

1102
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: the total value of our company was bigger than the

1103
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: whole exchange. So if you take all the companies. So

1104
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: so we did that right, and like again the arrows

1105
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: and the bullets like to get through that. That's not

1106
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: I wake up out and I'm like, oh, this happened.

1107
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, we gotta go fight some people

1108
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: because nobody wants that to happen. Fundamentally shifted the future

1109
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: of weed right there in that Canada had this thing locked.

1110
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: Right now, people don't talk about that four or five

1111
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: years ago, it's all you would talk about. Right Canada

1112
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: had this locked because they legalized weed before us, because

1113
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: their public markets accepted it before us, and they built

1114
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: multibillion dollar companies before us that had talent from global

1115
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: conglomerates you know, running it, and we had trap shops

1116
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: and bullshit. So they had this thing to themselves. And

1117
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: when we went and tried to do this, the investment

1118
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: bankers in Canada did everything they couldn't stop us. The

1119
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: Canadian companies did everything they couldn't stop us, and even

1120
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: the Canadian investors, you know, didn't like the fact that

1121
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 1: some Americans were gonna come up and show everybody off.

1122
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, being that person

1123
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: I had to be at the time to move this forward,

1124
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: I went to Canada and in front of thousands of

1125
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: people said, you know, Canada was the appetizer. The US

1126
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: is coming, you know, and of course there you know,

1127
00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: the Canadians the people are cut your mouth. But you

1128
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: know I had to do that kind of stuff to

1129
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: get the eyeballs on this, to make all this happen. Right,

1130
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: So anyways, we make it happen. We're listening for one

1131
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: point six five billion dollars. I raised a hundred million

1132
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 1: dollars after a two week road show around the world.

1133
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm in New York because two weeks who's that road

1134
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: shops A team and bankers that that I got And

1135
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: it was the first time that road show had happened. Right,

1136
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: how much did every other company after that took our

1137
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: same list and went to the same people, And that's

1138
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: how it all started, which is great. Um. So anyways,

1139
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm on the you know, like professionally, I should be

1140
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: at the top of the world. I'm in Manhattan because

1141
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: the next day we have media all day. I'm on

1142
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: the New York Stock Exchange floor. I'm supposed to be talking.

1143
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm at MSNBC or CNBC off in New Jersey

1144
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: on Mad Money and Power launch like nobody and we

1145
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: had ever done this kind of thing before I go

1146
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,959
Speaker 1: to sleep, and I bring my family with me because

1147
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: I want them there, and they're in the room next

1148
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: to me so I can get my rest and be

1149
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: focused for the next day. And I wait up the

1150
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: next day and I roll over and I've got, you know,

1151
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: five messages on my phone and I start reading them.

1152
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: And there's this blog article that's posted about what you're

1153
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: talking about, Andrew, and I stole money bullshit bullshit? So, right,

1154
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: isn't that fun stuff to read than my share share share?

1155
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: Look at this fucking guy. I was praising them, that asshole.

1156
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: So you got you go like, how, you know, how

1157
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: did that happen? Well? Weeks earlier, right, one of these

1158
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,479
Speaker 1: groups up in Canada that ran a marketing scheme where

1159
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: basically they pumped marketing to retail investors, saying, invest in

1160
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: this penny stock, invest in this invest Right, these marketing people,

1161
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: they were um getting paid by almost every Canadian public

1162
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: company at the time, because Canada public markets are much

1163
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: more loose and aggressive than American ones. So these guys

1164
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: get ahold of us, they get ahold of my head

1165
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: of communications, and they say, hey, um, you need to

1166
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: pay us two million dollars so we can do all

1167
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: this stuff to help you once you guys list and

1168
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: my head of communications is like, m I think we're good.

1169
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: And then they wrote back and said, well, the alternative

1170
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 1: is we're gonna we're gonna start writing you know, bad ship,

1171
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna tank your stock. And he has the email

1172
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: and he's going, I'm confused at I mean, we have

1173
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: this conversation like on the US called like blackmail. I

1174
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening here in Canada. You know, I say,

1175
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: go funk yourself, so you know it was a go

1176
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: funk yourself. We're not going to be extorted. So this

1177
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 1: guy goes ahead and writes this article. You still ask

1178
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: me if I stole money like the Again, the crazy

1179
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: part is I'm not the party guy. They also crazy

1180
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,479
Speaker 1: part is at this point, this is my life's work.

1181
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm taking no money. I'm doing the opposite, right, And

1182
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: that sounds crazy for somebody who went from zero to

1183
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: making millions and millions of dollars. But at this point

1184
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: in you know, a multibillion dollar company, as the CEO,

1185
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: I have people telling me, I board members telling me

1186
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: take money off the table, sell some stock, you know,

1187
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: you have to do life planning for your family. I

1188
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,479
Speaker 1: didn't start with money, you know what I said, I said,

1189
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: fuck you, this thing is gonna be American Airlines. I'm

1190
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: buying more stock and I have more cash and as

1191
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: men men stock price after the farmer Can deal broke

1192
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: was going down, I was buying up on you know,

1193
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: seven figures worth of stock. Right, So you know this

1194
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: thing of I'm stealing money, it's so funny to me.

1195
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: You're putting your money back into it. At that time,

1196
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: I had so familiar. So here's here's a really cool Yeah. Yeah,

1197
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: here's a really cool scene from the movie whenever. You

1198
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: know when that gets me so you hands down. Yeah,

1199
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,959
Speaker 1: So the really cool scene where we're like a couple

1200
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: of weeks after we list and uh, I have, you know,

1201
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: money managers for the first time in my life. I

1202
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: don't know what that means, but I don't give a funk,

1203
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm just working, you know, um and uh, and

1204
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: they say, hey, we need to sit down with you.

1205
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, I'm in the office all day.

1206
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: You can come in the office. So they fly people in.

1207
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: They have you know, half a dozen people in my

1208
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: conference room and I'm annoyed that I even have to

1209
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: take the meeting. And they put up on the screen,

1210
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, this is what your net worth is in

1211
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: quotes based on how much stock guy owned, which you know,

1212
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's just made up number. What a crazy number,

1213
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: crazy million number, crazy hundreds of millions of dollars crazy, right,

1214
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: So so so you know, we're we're sitting down there

1215
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: and they're saying, here's hundreds of millions of dollars. And

1216
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: they're saying, so what you do is you sell this

1217
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: much stock and we put it in this and you

1218
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: can live the rest of your life. And it was

1219
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: like five percent. It was nothing, you know, And I said,

1220
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: get the funk out of my office. You know, I'm

1221
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: not selling anything, and you know my money guys are like, well,

1222
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: I flew this guy in from Texas, and get the

1223
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 1: funk out of my office. I gotta work. You see

1224
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: what I'm changing the world here? You know. So if

1225
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: I was, I almost wish I was. I almost wish

1226
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: I was experienced enough um to understand that at that

1227
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: point in time, you know, you take fifty percent of

1228
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: it off the fucking table and you turn it into cash.

1229
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: But the thing about that guy at that time was

1230
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: if I had that mentality, we would not have had

1231
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: medmen and the industry would not be what it is today.

1232
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: We needed that person. You didn't want to cash you,

1233
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to prom all in. We needed that

1234
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: to just that's and that's that's almost every entrepreneurs first

1235
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: mistake is they starting out, they start taking right. They

1236
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: want to take the money while you're trying to piggybank

1237
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: the motherfucker. You can't piggy banking, and and and and

1238
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: going to hundred and fifty miles an hour, one fucking

1239
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: small move is is a catastrophic fucking disaster. It's not

1240
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: a you know, when you're going a hundred fifty miles

1241
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: an hour, you move a little slip is a catastrophic one.

1242
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: You know, the Attorney General of the United States, Bill

1243
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: bar cost me whatever the number is a quarter billion

1244
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: dollars with one conversation. You know, So those things can happen.

1245
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: And that's why the money managers are right, if you're

1246
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: gonna be a responsible grown up. But the industry didn't

1247
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: need a responsible grown up to be the fucking face

1248
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: and the person first through the door, right. They needed

1249
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: somebody that was willing to be the martyr, you know,

1250
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: at the end of that journey because they just didn't

1251
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: know any better, which I didn't. And then get right

1252
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: behind me, you know which again, like let's talk about it,

1253
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: right right behind me. We're so lucky, we're so fortunate

1254
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: as an industry now to have the Boars Jordan's and

1255
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: to have the ben Kohlers, because you know what, for

1256
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: this point in time where we're gonna now hand this

1257
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 1: off to a b MBV, when we're going to hand

1258
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: this off to Molson Corps, we're gonna hand this off

1259
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: to you know whoever it is right through till throns

1260
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: through however, pick the company as we're gonna do that,

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01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm not the guy to do that. But Ben Kovler,

1262
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, with the Jim being dynasty family background, they

1263
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: exactly know how to do that right companies which we've

1264
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: been saying to they know how to do this big, big, big, big,

1265
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: big through it right and and I always say it

1266
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: and I have to say it right boards the master. Yeah,

1267
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: but little Adam didn't have it all figured. And not

1268
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: only that, Little Adam didn't come from a silver spoon

1269
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: with his daddy was on the market tea son, this

1270
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: is what you do and you should take tap out

1271
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: and goes back to that Ohio right like that, you know,

1272
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: like there's there's you know, yeah, okay, watch that we

1273
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: got this, you know, and and he's working his best

1274
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: and working hard. So where is it now? I mean

1275
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: we're not the backup to. I don't know where it's now,

1276
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: but I want to go back to before. Where it's

1277
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: now is that after that meeting. I want to know

1278
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: what your thoughts on are why they let you go

1279
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: as the CEO because they had to vote, and how

1280
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: does that even go down? Like I can't imagine the

1281
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: feelings and the mental like you motherfucker's I've led this

1282
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: company this far, you believed in Adam all this far

1283
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: and now to brute is how I feel when I

1284
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: think about what happened to you telling me said he

1285
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: did not steal the money for the for the home.

1286
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: If you're telling me you did not buy yourself a plane,

1287
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: because as I looked at it from the outside, I went, Okay,

1288
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm three, I'm gonna look at blue Blue. Ida's getting

1289
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: this dog. I don't got plan have been Can I

1290
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: get get a voltewagen? We're gonna get so. My point

1291
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: is if those two things didn't happen, which are the

1292
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: only two stories I've heard, and I think you should

1293
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: be paid above and beyond for everything you did. So

1294
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: there's no mont there's no value of what you took

1295
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: home that even would bother me like and there wouldn't

1296
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: even be a I bought a home for five million dollars,

1297
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah you damn might? It did like I would? Why

1298
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: not I did? You're damn right I did if I

1299
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: owned erk if I was you, and I'm look at everybody,

1300
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: but like you, if everybody here one day, I'm gonna

1301
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: buy a five million dollar home. No mean you're just

1302
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: sucking money to do it. I'm looking at said dud.

1303
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: Damn right, I did. So. My point is I looked

1304
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: at when I heard these stories, just to give you.

1305
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: That's why I said, I'm gonnave you my insight on

1306
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: what I looked at you as I didn't say, oh,

1307
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: I can't believe I heard this story and now it's

1308
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: not even true. Hero. I looked at it as I

1309
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: like what he's been doing, and shouldn't he make some money?

1310
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: But he put this together From what I read, I

1311
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: understood that you started with with this guy at an

1312
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: early age from my understanding of what I put together,

1313
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: but I didn't know you hear the whole story, so

1314
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: I looked at it as appropriate business. Right, So now,

1315
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: how did you feel and how did you find out

1316
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: you were getting let go as the CEO? Back to

1317
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: the movie, man, we've all we've all seen all those

1318
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,439
Speaker 1: have watched Social Network, We've you know, there's the scene

1319
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: where they show up in the boardroom at you know,

1320
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: first thing in the morning. Pretty partner, dude, this is

1321
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: what you're doing. You're still right now we're talking this

1322
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 1: through like it's so great. I feel like I'm looking

1323
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: at the scenarios right now. Is me at seven thirty

1324
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: in the morning. At seven in the morning, I show up,

1325
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: I had this purple lunch pail like over you know,

1326
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: I packed my lunch because I'm fucking grinder man, you know,

1327
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: pack my lunch. You know. I'm like, you know, skipping

1328
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: on into work at fucking seven fifteen in the morning

1329
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: or whatever. It is, like ready to go crush and

1330
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty good. Um, and they're waiting for me

1331
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: in the boardroom. Who's there? It was the chairman of

1332
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: the board and his personal lawyer, the chairman of the

1333
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: board ends up being, um, you know, one of the

1334
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: unfortunate uh pieces, and all this right, he's he's horrible

1335
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: and uh he won't admit it too. But again, like,

1336
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: you know, there's parts that I'm horrible at it that

1337
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: nobody had the experience to do this, and the people

1338
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: that did, they wouldn't come join us because it was

1339
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: it was too far out right. The people I interviewed

1340
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: to come be the CFO from Walmart or whatever, They're like,

1341
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,439
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go work in a weed company. I'll

1342
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: never get a job again. Right, You have to remember

1343
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: where this industry now, it's changed a little bit, that's

1344
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: changed a lot change. And again you're you're you're you're

1345
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: flying that plane in the middle of the air, totally

1346
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: putting it together, going jump in, and no one wants

1347
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: to get in that plane. Right. But then, but then

1348
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: you know that you find the ones that you can

1349
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: and you do the best you can and you try

1350
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: to pilot it. Right. I looked at it like I

1351
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: was coaching a baseball team and we didn't have a

1352
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: big league players, but we were in the big leagues

1353
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: and my job was just to get the most out

1354
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: of it. There's no crying in baseball, right, and that's

1355
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: that's how it was. So you want the story. So

1356
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: I've never told this story. Here we go. Alright, this

1357
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: is what you get for being so amazing, which you

1358
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: guys really are in this interviews. We appreciate you. So

1359
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: here's the real story. We're gonna be friends forever. I

1360
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: don't care. I remember I'm calling. I'm sending you pictures tonight.

1361
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: So I'm telling you my scar pictures just so you

1362
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: can get ghost. You're gonna be like, I hate It's okay.

1363
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: I turned my phone off at seven. Don't worry. I'll

1364
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:44,479
Speaker 1: hit you later. All right, here, it's never been told before.

1365
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. Midnight, you're gonna get Texas as peekaboom. Never.

1366
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: Here we go. So we're so um we do the

1367
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: farmer Can Deal, which means we enter into this deal.

1368
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: It's the biggest in the history of the world for

1369
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: marijuana in our country. Um. And the deal was valued

1370
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: at three millions some number, big number, and Pharmercan finished medmen.

1371
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: So it was like the key that finished us to

1372
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: the whole country. They had the markets that we didn't

1373
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: have UM and uh, we fit really well. So we

1374
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: got that deal done and we were the It was

1375
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: the first time in history in our country that a

1376
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: marijuana deal how to go through h s R, which

1377
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: is the anti trust process that the Department of Justice oversees.

1378
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: When UM anti competitive stuff can happen, right when a

1379
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: T and T by sprint, it doesn't just happen, it

1380
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: has to go through that project. So this was so

1381
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: large that it ended up on the d j's desk

1382
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: and it was the first time that they had looked

1383
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: at an HSR filing for a federally illegal weed business,

1384
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: right and so interesting. And they did that with clear

1385
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: Channel back in the day, like so clear you can

1386
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: only own eight radio stations in a market. So it's

1387
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: the same kind of concept right here. So this right

1388
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: here like no market like as I don't care if

1389
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: you're CBS, NBC, ABC, Clear Channel, I heart you can

1390
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: only own eight entities in every market. Same kind of

1391
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: concept like this, So we go through HSR and it's

1392
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: supposed to the way it's supposed to work. It's so

1393
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: funny as it takes six months and if they don't

1394
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: tell you you can't do it. As of day one,

1395
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: month six, you can do it. It's like they don't

1396
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: tell you. They just don't talk. Then you can't. So

1397
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: we spend all this money. We higher up. We've got

1398
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: like transition people and project managers because think about at

1399
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: this point we have like that whatever employees they have

1400
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: hor many employees. This is a multi thousand, you know,

1401
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: like right, and this was like ten states, and it's

1402
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: a lot of work to be in a place where

1403
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: you can be like at closed and now we're running

1404
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: all the stores as medmen. Right. So we invest this money,

1405
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: which again we're being rewarded because our stock is going

1406
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: up and people want to give us money because they

1407
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: want to fuel what is now the biggest company in

1408
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: the world. Um. We get to the day before months

1409
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: six and the d o J writes us a letter

1410
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: saying not approved, and they say we want all this information.

1411
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: And then we spend the next six months right getting

1412
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: up to that final day. And when we got close

1413
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: to that final day, we were so weak, um, because

1414
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: we had spent so much getting ready and it had

1415
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: taken so long, and the street was so fatigued and

1416
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: the markets sucked too at the time. Um that uh,

1417
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: it ended up being a big problem, right, and the

1418
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: deal breaks. And it breaks because I've got predatory lenders

1419
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: that want to take advantage of selling off assets because

1420
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: we don't comply with their loan, because we can't do

1421
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: what we're supposed to do, because we're under contracted by

1422
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: a company that's taking a year to fucking buy and

1423
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: until we buy them, we can't do anything right except

1424
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: spend money. So I'm going to fast forward for a

1425
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: second and come back. I find out years later through

1426
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: the whistleblower case in the Bill bar inquiry. Right, there

1427
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: was a whistleblower case where the Attorney General United States,

1428
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: they said, you know, they did all this stuff, and

1429
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: they had hearings. In the hearing they talk about med

1430
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: men and I'm going, what the fuck? You know? They

1431
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: they part of the conversation was Bill Barr came and said,

1432
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: don't let this deal happen, because I'm not gonna let

1433
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: this industry happen. Right, And so back through first through

1434
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: the door. Now you guys have guests on right. I

1435
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: don't know the last huge merger, what was it, Harvest

1436
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: and True Leaf. Maybe it was the last big industry merger,

1437
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: Like they go through hs are like nothing. Now we'll

1438
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: have a heart out there and Washington. It's done. But

1439
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: it's done right that because there's so many that's gone

1440
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: through because we we did it, even though Bill Barr

1441
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: said don't do it. We got it through. But again

1442
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: like too many arrows, too many people on us. So um,

1443
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 1: we get through, the deal breaks and our predatory lender,

1444
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: Gotham Green has us in their crossairs. Right I'm already

1445
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: fighting the minute I signed Grotham Green two or fifty

1446
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: million dollar investment and they're trying to pick me off

1447
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: right there, going around to board members talking about CEO replacements.

1448
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: They don't I don't understand that. Why I don't make

1449
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: me understand that because I don't know. Well, if you

1450
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: look at what Gotham ended up doing Ianthus, it's a

1451
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: similar thing, right, aunt this made Gotham made loans into

1452
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: Ayanthus and then they wiped all the I don't know,

1453
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:01,919
Speaker 1: anths will explain that one. So Gotham is this predatory lender,

1454
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:06,799
Speaker 1: right They lent to Ayanthus, which was a public company,

1455
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: and with the loan come all these caveats, which are

1456
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: handcuffs which you when you need the money and you're

1457
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: in your week like, I don't care. I've been saying

1458
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 1: yes to money with fucking strings forever and they go, yeah,

1459
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: but you never dealt with real Wall Street. Motherfucker's even

1460
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: ever to deal with people like us. We're gonna skin

1461
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 1: your kid. But this contract is deep, deep, and you

1462
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: know the stuff is you know it's it's rough. So anyways,

1463
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: I didn't realize this as I signed it, and my

1464
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: team didn't protect me, and the board didn't know, you know,

1465
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: all those things they did. But whatever they're signing stuff

1466
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: like that, they weren't. They also weren't probably as savvy

1467
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: to the game and knowing it because it hasn't happened.

1468
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,839
Speaker 1: You're talking to some you know first part. For example,

1469
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: they knew exactly what they were doing. How the other

1470
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: people I didn't? Right, So think about this. One of

1471
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: the things says, you can't raise equity dollars. I'm sorry,

1472
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: you can't raise debt unless we have prove it um,

1473
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: And you can't raise equity unless we have proven and

1474
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: it's above a certain price. Well, if the stock price

1475
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: goes down and then we have a deal that we're

1476
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: ready to close next month and it takes a year,

1477
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: don't you think I need to raise money. Do you

1478
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 1: think these guys want to reprove us raising money? Now

1479
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: they're sitting there going, let's see TikTok, TikTok. Because once

1480
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: we they have a thing that if we have less

1481
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 1: than I think it was twenty million bucks in the bank,

1482
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: it was a default, right, So they end up having

1483
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 1: me by the short hairs, won't let me raise money

1484
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: unless it's equity. And at the time the stock was

1485
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: in free fall, so there's no equity being raised, and

1486
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: they won't let us raise that. Well it's dropping and

1487
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: it's partially because of them, right, because they won't let

1488
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: me stop the bleeding, because I can't go raise a

1489
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: fifty million dollar loan to say, Medmen's fully capitalized. We're

1490
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,799
Speaker 1: going to get through this. So out I find out

1491
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: on uh And this is them doing this on purpose

1492
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: almost so they can almost on purpose. So they did

1493
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: it with I am have to, they have to, I

1494
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: am this. They end up failing business, baby, and then

1495
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: they they take that though. I love just the game

1496
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: right now, this is a game at home, like you

1497
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 1: guys they're listening and watching this is game like this

1498
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: is really just like a movie too, because this his

1499
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 1: hands down crazy. It was crazy. So we we win, right,

1500
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: So like I am, this loses, they wipe the equity,

1501
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: they get the assets. It's like the movie Walts Gecko ship. Right,

1502
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: they get all the assets of Ayantis for a few

1503
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 1: million bucks because they defaulted on their loan. Well, I

1504
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: never default because I fought them the whole fucking time.

1505
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: And I get a guy to give us an equity check.

1506
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 1: That solves my problems. Um uh. And I find out

1507
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:40,440
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve that he dies of a of a stroke. Okay,

1508
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: so we already announced twist. This is now this is

1509
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: like like you know, is there is there more people involved? Deep?

1510
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: I never told this story? So cool continue really deep.

1511
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: So so I raised money from this guy. This guy

1512
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: dies of a stroke after we announce it. When we

1513
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 1: announce it, Um, we had a meeting set with Gotham.

1514
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 1: You already had the check though, No, we had signed stuff.

1515
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 1: No money, no no, no, you can you can speak

1516
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: on it because the deal's done, right, It's correct. How

1517
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: you raise more money essentially because more people want to

1518
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 1: jump in because you had that, because well you just

1519
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: made a huge annountment. Hey we got the funding. Blah

1520
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: blah blah and then everybody's like, oh ship another ride.

1521
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: Now everybody comes, so go ahead, what happen? Yeah? So

1522
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: so we sign it and then we had a meeting

1523
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: with Gotham and they blow the meeting off right because

1524
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: they lost. Because that money set us forward, and I

1525
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: was already going through a restructuring because the deal didn't happen.

1526
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: So I had to lay off a bunch of people.

1527
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: We were a different company. And they're like, you should

1528
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: hire a chief instructuring officer. I'm like to do what

1529
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 1: to fire people? I'll go look him in the face

1530
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: and I'll thank them for their time and I'll fire him.

1531
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 1: This is my baby. I'm not running away. And we

1532
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: heard that that was a big story. Madman lays off,

1533
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm running the restructuring. I figured out

1534
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: the money. Gotham doesn't want to talk to us because

1535
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: they lost their game. This guy dies, unfortunately, and on

1536
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, I'm like, what the funk am I supposed

1537
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: to do? I'm done? And I get a I call Uh,

1538
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: an investor a hedge fund in Canada on Christmas Eve

1539
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: in the evening. The guy uh Is wife was Jewish

1540
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: and he's Muslim. I think so I'm like, oh my god,

1541
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: this this funker is gonna pick up please pick up

1542
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: receive and uh and he picks up the phone. And

1543
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:36,440
Speaker 1: this guy, because I get it, I got my Muslim brother, ironically,

1544
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: only on Christmas. I mean, you know you're throwing the dice.

1545
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 1: Why not? I'm calling Canada? So what happened? So I

1546
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: call him and this individual this was the fund that

1547
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 1: was supposed to put money into Medmen when Gotham scooped

1548
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: them so a year earlier, six moments ever, it was

1549
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: I had a deal with them in hand, and Gotham's like,

1550
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: take our deal instead, right, And I get duped and

1551
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: I take this predatory deal and I tell the Canadian

1552
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 1: guys I'm so sore, and they are livid as they

1553
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 1: should have been. Right, that was a hard So now

1554
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: I call him back on Christmas Eve a year later,

1555
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: and I haven't spoken to him, and I say, here's

1556
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 1: the predicament um and he says, I'm in. Uh you

1557
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: know we'll paper it up. No, no, I'm sorry. The

1558
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: story gets better. Uh, he says, I'll call you back,

1559
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: and and another guy calls me back from another fund

1560
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: and says I'm in. And he says it's gonna take

1561
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: a couple of days, but you're fine, It's okay. So

1562
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: that night happens and we have Christmas Day, then we

1563
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 1: have the next day and these guys go a wall

1564
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 1: and they were part of the group when Gotham came

1565
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: in and I did that deal. These guys felt slighted

1566
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 1: up there because I whatever, so they fucked me. So

1567
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: they said we were in just so we wouldn't look

1568
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: we wouldn't look anywhere else. And then on like three

1569
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: four days later, they say, ha ha, sorry, fuck you.

1570
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: You guys screw with us a year ago. You know,

1571
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: payacks pitch right, So now I'm in and you know

1572
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: the money, that money here, we're not uh no, this

1573
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: was like you know those those kind of just like

1574
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking to do about dollar raids. But

1575
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that later. And it's a true true statement.

1576
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: But but we'll go on that later, okay. So so so,

1577
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: so now we're we're fast forwarding. And now I get

1578
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: ahold of our biggest investor and it's the chairman of

1579
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 1: the board. It represents them. Um, they're a big family

1580
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 1: office out of Chicago. And I get ahold of him,

1581
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: and I say, man, like, I've done everything. I pulled

1582
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: this off. This guy died, and then on Christmas Eve

1583
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: these people say yes. And then I got another group

1584
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: in Canada to say yes for half of it. On

1585
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: they say I need you to come in for the

1586
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: other half. He says, Adam, you've done everything we've asked

1587
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: you to do. We're there for you. I mean, here's

1588
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: a multi billion dollar family office right for them. Ten

1589
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: million bucks is like, you know if that is right?

1590
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh my god, it's the twenties that

1591
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: whatever it is, like, we did it. Then the chairman

1592
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: of the board that they're representative calls me back to

1593
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: do I'm so sorry, We're so sorry about It's not me,

1594
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: but you know, my boss needs a personal guarantee on

1595
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: this money. So how does that work, like an officer

1596
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 1: for the company. Well, you know, it's not a big deal,

1597
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. But the way we're gonna write

1598
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: our check is you gotta pg the money that in

1599
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: a year the stock will be worth at least that,

1600
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: or we're gonna take it from you. Yeah, convertible note

1601
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: basically right, no, no, no, no, this person personally, Yeah,

1602
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: I've seen that, right, so uh, and you know, I

1603
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 1: got the chairman of the board. It's somebody, everybody, every well,

1604
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: everybody wants to get a piece on the way out

1605
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: to the correct So now you know they're they're no.

1606
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: And then again he doesn't. He's never seen this, but

1607
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: he's in the pickles. So he's in the lights right right.

1608
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: I can only imagine. But they they've been through this,

1609
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: it's an exercise, and they're like, Okay, he's on his

1610
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: way out, we're gonna we're gonna PGM. Yeah, and then

1611
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: whatever assets he ends up with will just take so well,

1612
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 1: well no, they're going to leverage it to get him out, right,

1613
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: because ultimately all these people wanted to break it up

1614
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: and make money off the pieces, right. Um. So anyway,

1615
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: so they have a conversation with the guy and I said, look,

1616
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: I got employees that count on this paycheck and we're

1617
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: not gonna make payroll. One thing I'm really proud of

1618
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: since we started this business, I've never missed payroll. Since

1619
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 1: I've been in business with Andrew, I've never missed payroll.

1620
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: As I've talked about, that's in my life. I've been

1621
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: a commerce casino two hours before the cut off on

1622
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: a Friday to run and do it. But I've never

1623
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: missed payroll, and now I got people and families, and

1624
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm going, you're really gonna put me over a barrel

1625
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: when we got people that need to get paid and

1626
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: it's December. I'm so sorry that's the decision you'll have

1627
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 1: to make. But once you do this, we're fully backing you.

1628
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 1: So like an idiot, I signed the PG with you

1629
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: being in the primary where it was me and Andrew. Yeah,

1630
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: but we signed the PG on like personally to take

1631
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: money in for the company, which I don't even think

1632
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 1: you can do right because we're not getting any consideration

1633
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,440
Speaker 1: for it's a whole thing. He signed the PG and uh.

1634
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,719
Speaker 1: About a month later, Um, you know that money was good,

1635
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: and I'm really feeling good about this restructuring and then

1636
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: repositioning med men as the market turns around. And I

1637
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: knew I was two battle scarred. I knew that somebody

1638
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: else was gonna have to come in to be the

1639
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: CEO UM and I was excited about taking more of

1640
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 1: a board role of chairman role, helping that person be

1641
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: successful with my background and knowledge right and everything you

1642
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: built for the what it is experience and it's okay.

1643
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: It's okay to not you know, necessarily be the guy

1644
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: you know well, because you only can be you only

1645
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: the best guy in the world. That's something for you know,

1646
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: a very finite period of time. And then you're just

1647
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,919
Speaker 1: being dishonest with yourself, right. So um, So I like

1648
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: a like a like an idiot, um, but also in

1649
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 1: a way that I feel trans you know, honest about.

1650
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: I called the chairman of the board, this guy on

1651
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: a Friday, and I said, hey, man, I want to

1652
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: let you know. I think I'm like two months away

1653
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: from the restructuring being over, um, really close. And on

1654
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: the other side, I'm gonna replace myself and I want

1655
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: you to know that because I don't want to get

1656
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: hit by a bus tomorrow. Um, And you not know

1657
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: what the plan is, and I also want you thinking

1658
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: about the plan so you can help me. This is

1659
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: the same person that put me in the pickle to

1660
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 1: do the PG. That's all this stuff, right, But I

1661
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: feel like that's my responsibility. So I call him on

1662
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: a Friday and say that, and he says, I am

1663
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: blown away. If you want to be the CEO for

1664
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: ten years or ten minutes, we'll back you will support you.

1665
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: You want to move to a board role, we can

1666
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 1: talk about it when you're ready. I said, thank you

1667
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: so much. This was a Friday, Monday morning. That person

1668
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: is in my office with their lawyer at seven thirty

1669
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: when I walk in, and they saw a weakness. Now

1670
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: they flew in from Chicago, exact. That's what I was wondering.

1671
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: If they saw weakness right? Um? What what my honesty

1672
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: and really just trying to do what was best for

1673
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: that company and forever, you know, they saw a weakness

1674
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: um and vulnerability, you know, and if the fact that

1675
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: they already committed to being out, how much of a

1676
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 1: fight would I make to be out today versus changing

1677
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: my mind? So they showed up at seven thirty in

1678
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: the morning when you say voting all this stuff, none

1679
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: of that, right, none of that. They showed up and

1680
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: bullied the funk out of me. And I was like

1681
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 1: a child being beaten, you know. And and and to

1682
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: say like, I'm okay being in that arena. I'm a professional,

1683
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: right Like sometimes you know, professional boxers go out and

1684
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: they get knocked out right like, but there's still they're

1685
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: squeezing your mental like I'm up your your kids, kids,

1686
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 1: when you say bully your kids will never eat again.

1687
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: Is there an analogy that you could use with bully?

1688
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 1: But again, right, I'm saying like, I don't want to.

1689
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody feel bad because I'm a pro.

1690
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm in the ring. If I get beat up, I

1691
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: get beat up, right, But they beat me up. They

1692
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 1: pushed all the buttons. They went to my communications team

1693
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 1: before they talked to me during that day and said

1694
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: this might be Adam's last day. Prepare a message. They

1695
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 1: went to the legal office and I had my GC

1696
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 1: coming going, I don't know I work for you, Adam,

1697
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you. These people are saying you're gone.

1698
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: Oh that had to flip you. Well, yeah, I lost

1699
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: my mind. I lost my mind. And then the you know,

1700
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: they're calling me names, they're bullying, they're putting me in

1701
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: a spot right to be less than fully rational. Yeah,

1702
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: you're crazy. Now we're getting crazy. And then I go

1703
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: to my shrink um for my weekly session and I

1704
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: tell him what's going on, and he was perfect, this

1705
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: is crazy. This is absolutely insane. Not knowing that multi

1706
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: state operating MULTIMI, Well, you sold the control right, so

1707
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 1: obviously no, I still have full voting rights and everything.

1708
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm the super voting rights. I'm in complete control. My

1709
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: shrink says to me, Adam, you've been fighting with these

1710
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: people for how many years? How much will you pay

1711
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 1: to never have to deal with them again? And it

1712
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: was like it like changed everything for me. And my

1713
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: answer was like, I'll pay everything I have except my

1714
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 1: basic needs to never have to deal with people like

1715
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: this again, let alone these particular horrible people. Um. And

1716
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 1: so I went back in and I made a deal

1717
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: with them, uh, you know, to sign for me to

1718
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 1: day later, a week later or what day later? I

1719
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 1: show up and I say, look, you know, here's this.

1720
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about a severance. Um. I hadn't

1721
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: been paid in you know, a year because I was

1722
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: taking a fifty salary. I had already been promised you

1723
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: know stuff, you know, money whatever. So I signed this

1724
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: thing that says I'll get paid this much to leave

1725
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: on Friday and I go home. And then the next day,

1726
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 1: you know, I go in the office and they say,

1727
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: so sorry, Adam, we can't honor it. And said, well,

1728
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: why is that. Oh, it's just it's too quick. We

1729
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: need to send it, you know, to a third party

1730
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: to review it to make sure blah blah blah, even

1731
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 1: though the board had voted on it that night before

1732
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: and everything was good, and they sit down with me

1733
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 1: and say, Adam, look you need to sign this that says, basically, UM,

1734
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: we don't know what your severance is gonna be, uh,

1735
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: but we're gonna have a third party analyze it and

1736
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: confirm it. And I promise you it'll be what the

1737
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 1: board just voted on. And at that point, you know,

1738
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 1: I sign it. I signed it. Well, it wasn't. I

1739
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 1: thought it was that I lost right it on a

1740
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: personal level there as opposed to saying I'm gonna lawyer

1741
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: up and pay me, and now it's not about med men,

1742
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: it's about Adam Bierman. I was still all about med men.

1743
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 1: So I signed it because men men can't well, I

1744
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 1: can't go what are gonna go. I'm gonna go publicly

1745
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: fight these people, you know, and air all of this

1746
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 1: during that time. So I signed the thing, and I

1747
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 1: give this speech and I'm crying and you know this

1748
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 1: is my baby, and I walk away. Um, and I

1749
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 1: show back up on Monday to be supportive. I'm gonna

1750
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: be on the board and I run into the chairman

1751
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: and he pretty much says, get the funk out and

1752
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: he throws me out. I leave and he you know,

1753
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: ends my keycard access and shuts off my email. Um

1754
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: are you kidding? And so that was that was my

1755
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 1: departure from from Medman. Have you big business? Have you

1756
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: talked to anybody from there since? Well? Yeah, I can't

1757
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: comment on ongoing litigation. But those people that threw me

1758
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 1: out definitely have to pay me my severence. They promised me,

1759
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: have they No, you never made a dime since no, no, no, no, no,

1760
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: not from that. So so we're working on that. There's

1761
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: going to be something right my my kids hope. So

1762
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't keep me up at night. Hey man, you

1763
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 1: know what, um, I think that you know, um, I

1764
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 1: think I'll get something. This is just me personally now

1765
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about myself and my family. But if I

1766
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: get nothing, you know, just you know that experience, this

1767
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: what we are, where we're like, and to never have

1768
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: to deal with those people again. Like Funking is said,

1769
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: you expended your mind and you can do it again.

1770
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: Hold on, but but Adam, listen, man, this is this

1771
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 1: is like you know you're you're talking how how long

1772
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 1: has it been since you signed that paper and they

1773
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 1: haven't give it two years? Okay, so to two and

1774
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 1: a half years. And what kind of pay roll were

1775
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: you on previously a year, fift thousand a year and

1776
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 1: then with company card, company card, nothing else. Here's the thing, right,

1777
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: here's the other thing that you know, like I was

1778
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: living that the caricature. You know, you could never understand

1779
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: is that how many shares? We owned a lot of

1780
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 1: the company. I mean Andrew and I owned thirty and

1781
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: now it's completely gone. Uh No, Andrew and I have

1782
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: sold a bunch of our shares, but we still have some. Um, yeah,

1783
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: we still have some. But back to like when you

1784
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: say company card and all this stuff, there were so

1785
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 1: many eyeballs on us and on me right, um, and

1786
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: I was aware of it. So I was always all

1787
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 1: the way on the other side, Like when we traveled,

1788
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 1: that's my personal credit card. I just paid myself. It's

1789
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: like I know one day it's going to be did

1790
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 1: you use the card for this? No? You know, like

1791
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: I knew that was coming. I just knew it because

1792
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 1: where we were in the history, and so I was

1793
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: so fucking paranoid. But you have to picture painted on

1794
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: you as you fucking live this lavish like you're a

1795
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: party rock star maniac and you know what I'm saying,

1796
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: you're partying like with hookers and the whole nine. Like

1797
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: I remember hearing random things like this about Yeah, it

1798
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: looked like it was, didn't We hear things like this

1799
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 1: and blew all the money on on stupid ship and

1800
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 1: it's like he bought this, he bought that. I mean,

1801
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 1: I've seen you pull up in that lamdboau with the

1802
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: helicopter dropped you off, but I didn't know if that

1803
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 1: was amidment money or where that was from. It's like

1804
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: that from people I don't expected to see from you.

1805
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: I still pulled up in my Cadillac. I think I'm good,

1806
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm I'm in those things. Man, that's

1807
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: just not me. They're gonna have to kick you in, dude,

1808
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: you know you have to. It's gonna be and the

1809
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: movie's gonna set you straight and right, because I believe

1810
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 1: you've had enough hype online. Like I said, in the

1811
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: cannabis world, you were the Kardashian of the cannabis world, right,

1812
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: like this whole thing that you built it. But there's

1813
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: a hands down movie on this hands down. I want

1814
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: to work. You're working on that probably probably, Oh I

1815
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: think you need to And if you need some help,

1816
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: let mean no player, I'm I'm down anything I could,

1817
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: anything we can do. We're in the movie because how

1818
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: about this, Like I told you from jump, but I

1819
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: didn't share earlier. We meaning blue and I have been

1820
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: on your side for that's what's crazy about And I

1821
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: think you should listen. Well, I don't know if he

1822
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 1: heard it before, but that's what I'm crazy. Don't think that.

1823
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean I brought up the things I heard about

1824
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 1: you because I'd love to ask you. But even even

1825
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: if they were true, we still believed in you what

1826
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 1: you did. Like we're like, oh this dude's let me

1827
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 1: still listen. You don't drive like I said, you don't

1828
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: drive it, you know, three hundred miles an hour, turning corners,

1829
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: going you know, up and down curves, events, blah blah blah,

1830
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: and then again hit speed bumps once a while, and

1831
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 1: those speed bumps are again, you know, astronaut, I mean

1832
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: calling a mess up what you're doing business. You're going

1833
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: through business. It doesn't mess up. You're aunt a corner

1834
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: three hundred miles an hour you hit something, the car

1835
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: fucking explodes. It doesn't just have a blowout, you know

1836
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: what I mean? And so and so I get that

1837
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: because even the faster we start moving and and the

1838
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 1: bigger things that we have, they have bigger you know, consequences. Yeah,

1839
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: the consequences and so and so going through that, like

1840
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: I said, you know that experience, like you know, for me,

1841
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: is the best thing you got right and again, you

1842
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 1: could do it again. I know what he's done. No,

1843
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: but he could do it again. Listen, you let me

1844
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: ask you. This is what maybe represents us, right, and

1845
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: I think he could help with a lot of those things.

1846
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: But but the thought process again to me is is

1847
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: do you have anything against you that says you can't

1848
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 1: be in this industry? Can you not be? I mean,

1849
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: does this stop you? I mean, does there anything any charge?

1850
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 1: I mean nothing? You just again, I'm back back to

1851
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 1: back to all this true truth, right, yeah, I mean,

1852
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 1: just gave it away. It's the truth. Well, well, the

1853
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 1: truth is that, um, you know there was not only

1854
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice at that time didn't want us

1855
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 1: to be successful. Um, but when James Parker left the company,

1856
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 1: he for sure this is me in my opinion again,

1857
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: but he for sure called every federal agency there was

1858
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 1: right to whistle blow and to try to put pressure

1859
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 1: on Um. And if they didn't have open investigations around

1860
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: medmen or me, which I assume most of them probably did,

1861
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: they for sure now how to follow up on his

1862
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: insane whistle blowing stuff Um And the fact that he

1863
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: publicly filed this lawsuit with allegations of criminality, right so

1864
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 1: we've had them so and if they were true, you

1865
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't be here. But that's the final point. The final

1866
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 1: point is exactly that you know when you say where

1867
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 1: you at like, I am so squeaky clean, I'm the

1868
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 1: cleanest person in the fucking space because nobody else has

1869
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: gone through the proctology exam and I've gone through with

1870
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 1: the real big federal agencies that would love nothing more

1871
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 1: than to have to put from what about this house?

1872
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 1: You have the right way more sophisticated than the bloggers

1873
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 1: online at figuring out if if we had misstepped anywhere.

1874
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: It just made you look like you have everything everywhere,

1875
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 1: because I was under the impression you were just living

1876
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: this lavish baller life right like and just going crazy.

1877
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 1: Is that not the case on the company of mine.

1878
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm asking Adam, uh No, that wasn't the case. And

1879
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: you know again like I was working for, that's not

1880
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 1: my personality. My personality would have been what I'm doing now,

1881
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 1: spending time taking my kids to school and picking them

1882
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 1: up and being with my wife and cooking dinner. Um.

1883
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:20,520
Speaker 1: But at that time, to to have accomplished what we did, um,

1884
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: there was no time for any of that ship anybody

1885
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 1: else involved in the frivolous stuff. Like they weren't accomplishing

1886
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 1: what we were doing. They weren't figuring out how to

1887
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 1: you know, open the stores next day, next day, next day,

1888
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 1: next day, boom, this company that kind of picking them up.

1889
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. It's no time for that.

1890
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 1: You know, when you're when you're putting in those extra

1891
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 1: four or six hours a day into your vision and

1892
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: your dream, the rest of the world's wondering how they're

1893
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 1: doing it. They're fucking actually doing it, you know what

1894
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean, getting those extra hours you're actually were and

1895
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean and there is you know, days where you're

1896
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: sitting in the back cracking a beer with your buddies

1897
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: and your laughing and and doing those things which can

1898
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,600
Speaker 1: be easily misswed into Oh, we were partying at the

1899
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 1: office all the time, you know, Like, no, we're working

1900
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 1: to fun masses off. One day you have one drink.

1901
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's all they're doing. And then they

1902
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 1: try and use it and you're like, wait a second, dude,

1903
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna working fucking you know, seventy hours a week

1904
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 1: and you're sitting here, try and tell me what I think.

1905
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:16,879
Speaker 1: I think that one of the things that was always

1906
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 1: on my mind as the tip of that spirit at

1907
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: that time or the spokesperson for mainstreaming or commercializing or

1908
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 1: whatever you know it was, is that, um one, it

1909
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: was all encompassing. It wasn't the extra hours. It was

1910
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: that even while I was sleeping, this is what I

1911
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: was thinking about. It was not spending personal money on

1912
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 1: personal stuff, right, which I'm not that material to start,

1913
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: but like that could have never crossed my mind. I

1914
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 1: had no time for it. Um you know. And I

1915
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 1: think again, like the these stories are these stories, and

1916
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 1: I wish I could I could say any of them

1917
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 1: were true. But I think one of the fortunate things

1918
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 1: for the industry, and part of why this worked was

1919
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 1: because I was that person. What was the craziest story

1920
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: you heard that you read and you're like, oh my god,

1921
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 1: I can't believe they think that was the plane the

1922
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 1: one because the plane is big one. So part of

1923
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 1: this whole concept as an entrepreneur to you know, uh,

1924
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 1: eradicate the need for validation from people who don't know you. Right,

1925
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 1: this was such an amazing experience for that, right. Part

1926
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: of that is I haven't read fully any of that

1927
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 1: stuff because what's the point those people don't know me? Uh,

1928
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 1: why do I care? Right? And why should you when

1929
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 1: your boys like, hey man, they just said this about

1930
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 1: I still never read the full article from New York

1931
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: that day that I rolled over and they said we

1932
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 1: stole all the money, right, because what's how's that helping?

1933
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: But you heard the headlines? Of course I heard that.

1934
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: So what headline got you like, oh my god, I

1935
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 1: can't believe they think that. Okay, whatever, moving on, I'm

1936
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 1: not doing it. It It doesn't matter. I like that, and

1937
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 1: I agree with they fucked us up, right, and I

1938
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 1: think you perfect perfect? So you should have just paid.

1939
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: You're saying you should have just paid. But but again, right,

1940
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 1: how long? No? But but but but again, like the

1941
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: person this industry needed to get it forward was the

1942
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 1: person that would say, I don't care even if it's

1943
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 1: the death of me. I'm not fucking paying you. Because

1944
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 1: if I had paid them, then g T I wouldn't

1945
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 1: have gone public because Kovlers would have said, you know,

1946
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 1: Cola would have said, if you have to pay people

1947
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: like this for this to be successful, it's not ready

1948
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 1: for me yet, right. So somebody had to be the

1949
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 1: first one to put their their foot down and say

1950
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:17,720
Speaker 1: this ain't happening, you know. So it's like one of

1951
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: these things that as an industry, you fell on the sword,

1952
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 1: not knowing it at the time, understanding but right, and

1953
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:28,600
Speaker 1: like I said, when when when you know, you know,

1954
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 1: listen to him and you're like, look, you know they

1955
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 1: came in and and they're giving me these loans based

1956
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 1: on this, knowing that again they're just trying to take

1957
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 1: a piece of it on the way out now because

1958
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 1: they built it, right, they watched it build, and then

1959
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 1: now they're also seeing the tear down of it, and

1960
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 1: they're trying to take as much as they can. So

1961
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 1: they start to put you in different leverages, positions that

1962
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 1: you almost can't get out of. And they know that

1963
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 1: so that they can capture their they're back. You know,

1964
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: they can get what they want back out of it. Right.

1965
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 1: At the time that Gotham made that investment, they committed

1966
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 1: two fifty million dollars, but they did it in tranches

1967
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 1: and they never were intended to deploy all the money.

1968
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 1: They didn't have it, right, So I think you know,

1969
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: they gave us trunch one, maybe trunch million. At the time,

1970
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 1: a third party came out and said that the assets

1971
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 1: we held, just the assets were worth over a billion dollars. Right,

1972
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 1: those assets are you know what I'm talking about, which

1973
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 1: is why there's permanence here for those stores. But just

1974
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: think about this, right, if you can put out million

1975
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 1: bucks to get access to a billion dollars of stuff,

1976
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, that is their game, um, right, And so yeah,

1977
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:31,759
Speaker 1: that was that was part of it. Was a Gotham

1978
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 1: Green is dead right. Gotham Green won't provide a loan

1979
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,639
Speaker 1: to anybody in any real way in the industry ever

1980
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 1: again because you know, I we beat them, right, and

1981
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 1: the Ianthus thing, they beat Ianthus. But you know that's

1982
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 1: so public now that you know it's over. So it

1983
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 1: was that blip of time where those guys took a

1984
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 1: shot to take advantage of the fact that real money

1985
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 1: was still not in the space and we had no choice.

1986
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 1: And where's your partner out that you started all this with?

1987
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 1: What did he say? What did he do? Uh? Andrew

1988
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: and I are doing you know, all of our new

1989
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 1: stuff together. You know, we're still did he leaves, he's

1990
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 1: still part of the company. He left, he left. Now

1991
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 1: any anything associated with me was was was eradicated. Uh.

1992
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 1: You know once we left, so, Um, Andrew and I

1993
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,600
Speaker 1: we took some time off and then we started this

1994
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: new thing. We did a roll up in California called Coastal. Um.

1995
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 1: We spent about a year on it. We invested a

1996
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 1: few million bucks. We sold it to parent company for

1997
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 1: fifty six million dollars a few months ago. Um, and

1998
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 1: uh we are starting you know, the next roll up,

1999
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 1: which I'm really excited about. Um. The Coastal was really

2000
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 1: like us to prove a concept that you could make

2001
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 1: money at retailing California even in the face of two

2002
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 1: eight e We we when we when we when we

2003
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 1: opened the Medment store in West Hollywood, right, we actually perfect,

2004
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: Yes we we we we shared that. Yeah it was good.

2005
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: You deserve it, thank you. We we we shared with

2006
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 1: the world like what we could be, but we haven't

2007
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 1: iterated as an industry or me what that concept is

2008
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:01,679
Speaker 1: in five, six, seven year, right, And so that concept

2009
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 1: I don't believe is the future of retail and Weed.

2010
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: I believe there's something next and that's what we're working

2011
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 1: on creating. That's the new company right here. What do

2012
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 1: you say, roll up? It's a it's a reverse merger.

2013
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 1: You go out and pick up a bunch of different companies.

2014
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 1: You you you helped them operate properly, and then kind well, yeah,

2015
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 1: whatever we do with all that another. We're trying to

2016
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: build build what med Men. You know what med Men

2017
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 1: was was in California. We're trying to now do it better.

2018
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 1: Um with everything we learned, and you know, so you're

2019
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: coming back with You're coming back in a major way, older, smarter, better.

2020
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 1: I think the answer is that you know, Weed is,

2021
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 1: you know, central to my life, whether that's personal or

2022
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 1: whether that's business. I've never left, um, I just smoked

2023
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 1: a lot more and did less work for the last

2024
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,680
Speaker 1: couple of years. Good job, and now you're ready to

2025
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 1: get back to work, and now we're ready to get

2026
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 1: to the high five. Okay, ladies and gentlemen. Put great

2027
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 1: stories at them. Think vulnerable thing for you know, Pece,

2028
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 1: we greatly appreciate you. Adam Burman. Question number one of

2029
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 1: the High five. How old you the first time you

2030
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 1: smoke cannabis? And where'd you get it from? Probably stole

2031
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 1: it from Redman. I was probably in his mob box

2032
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 1: and his jet in his stuff. I was like twelve

2033
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,679
Speaker 1: years old. Uh. And I think we got it from

2034
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 1: a local street dealer that dropped it off like in

2035
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 1: my parents front yard under a rock. You'll nervous, you

2036
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 1: and your buddy. No, I'm not nervous because we were

2037
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: too dumb to be joint. No. No, we made We

2038
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: sat in class and we made pipe out of out

2039
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 1: of a mechanical pencil, and then we used tinfoil, you

2040
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 1: know all that, and then and then you're not really high,

2041
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 1: but you're like standing on the table like, WHOA, what's happening?

2042
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:53,680
Speaker 1: A piece of burnt plastic in your lip? Yeah? Why

2043
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: are you high? Question number two of the High five.

2044
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 1: What is your favorite way to use cannabis? I smoke.

2045
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 1: I'd love just smoking flower, just straight joint? Can you joint? Pa?

2046
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 1: Thank you? Thank you? Question number three craziest place you

2047
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 1: ever use cannabis or smoked. Yeah, I knew that was

2048
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 1: one of the questions. And I don't know how to

2049
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: answer it because, honestly, well because because like I I

2050
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 1: smoke weed every day, right men, some days, some days

2051
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 1: can be crazy. Some places could be crazy too. It's

2052
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 1: like saying, like the crazy of course, that's like saying like,

2053
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 1: that's like saying the craziest place I've ever been, right Like,

2054
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 1: if I've smoked weed everywhere I've been for the last

2055
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: you know, however many years of my life where I

2056
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 1: was in the craziest places, You're like, what's the craziest

2057
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: place you've been? Because I've smoke weed everywhere I've gone. Yeah, Right,

2058
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 1: So I don't really know how to answer that, Like,

2059
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 1: what's the crazy experience I've had in the last ten

2060
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 1: years in my life? There's some crazy How where would

2061
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,560
Speaker 1: you have been arrested or put in prison that you

2062
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:54,559
Speaker 1: smoked last? Because that becomes crazy in my book? Or whenever?

2063
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 1: Mexico is the one that would affects you know, I'm saying,

2064
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 1: because to me, are crazy? Are crazy? Be? I was

2065
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: at the Pope's front yard and I smoked you know,

2066
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean random stuff like that. We we smoke everywhere, man,

2067
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, we're smoking everywhere all the time. That

2068
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:13,560
Speaker 1: was a crazy smoker. I remember we smoked. Yeah, I

2069
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 1: don't know. And airport bathrooms and you know added crazy

2070
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, events and wherever. All the jets, yeah, all

2071
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:23,600
Speaker 1: the jets that we own together. How were we in

2072
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:26,640
Speaker 1: like a jet company together? Yeah? I can't wait to

2073
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 1: get another plane after this. Question number three of the

2074
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 1: High five with Adam, Question number four Craziest. Questionnumber four

2075
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 1: is on show. Hello Joe, welcome to the show. Thank

2076
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: you take it over. Question number four of the High five.

2077
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 1: What is your go to munchy after you get high?

2078
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 1: At him? Interestingly, I don't. I don't. I don't really

2079
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:47,679
Speaker 1: do that much. No, it's the opposite. You don't need weed.

2080
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 1: Weed is like, um, most of the time, weed like

2081
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 1: has me not feeling like I want to eat. It

2082
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 1: has me feeling lighter. Um. Yeah, you stay away from

2083
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 1: food a little bit. Yeah, it's interesting for me. Yeah,

2084
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 1: that's good. A lot of people, you know, some people

2085
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 1: don't get stoned, I mean, don't get the munchies, you

2086
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I don't think I'm i

2087
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 1: start thinking of all, let's go eat, you know. I mean,

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01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 1: if you get that one, I gotta get it in

2089
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: people that one. I can't hold it no more. So

2090
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 1: you ask him question number five on you got it?

2091
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 1: There is that one whammy that you get, you know,

2092
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 1: when um, you know, once in a while you get

2093
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 1: a munchy crave. I think that's if you're drinking and

2094
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 1: you're you know, smoking, all at the same time you're like,

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01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm starving, you know, and I'm I'm pretty

2096
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 1: much eating vegan ice cream every night of my life.

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01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 1: I don't consider it like a munchy from weed. I

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01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 1: just fucking love it. But if you want to say

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01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 1: that I'm smoking weed every day and then almost every

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01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 1: night I'm eating vegan ice cream, then there's my vegan

2101
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 1: what kind of I don't know all of it, man,

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01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 1: I love it. I just love ice cream. Everyone's in there,

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01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 1: your wife, it's vegans. Yeah, it makes it better. Question

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01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 1: number five of the high five. If you can smoke

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01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 1: cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who would it beat?

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01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: And why? My wife? Because she's the person that I'd

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01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,680
Speaker 1: most rather be with than anybody else. So if I'm

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01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 1: gonna smoke weed and you're being with somebody, you're interacting, right,

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01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 1: You're having that that time together, and there's nobody I'd

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01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 1: rather spend time with than her, And so if there's

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01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 1: a joint there just makes everything that much better. Fantastic, man,

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01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 1: shout out to that. Good job. You know. I love that, man.

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01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 1: You know you having having the ability to, um, you know,

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01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:35,719
Speaker 1: be comfortable and vulnerable and just be like my wife man.

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01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:38,760
Speaker 1: You know, very touch and I love that, dude. Shut

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01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 1: out here. Why what's her name? Laura? You know, luckily

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01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 1: she stayed with you after all this, luckily for her me,

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01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, dude, yeah, I've been with her

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01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 1: for about almost twenty years. Yeah, they got I mean

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01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: some people, you know, some people and not that they're

2121
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 1: there for the money or it was just the extra

2122
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, the moment you're on the news and the

2123
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 1: moment you're you know, your faces being out there. Some

2124
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: people just can't handle that ship. Dude. Yeah, thank you.

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01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:04,640
Speaker 1: That's fucking awesome, dude, because a lot, like I said, man,

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01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people can't handle that stress and it's very, um,

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01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: very difficult. Man. I've had the news in front of

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01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 1: my house, you know, what I mean. I noticed, like,

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01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, I noticed, like I've had the news come

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01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 1: out of my I come out of my office building,

2131
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: the fucking news is there. And you're They're like, You're like,

2132
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 1: what do you you know? And you don't know how

2133
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 1: to very similar stories. I feel like, yeah, you know,

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01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 1: I I've done some some some you know, and I

2135
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 1: felt like my phone was tapped and sucking phones on fire,

2136
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 1: It's burning. I'm like, why is this funk is so hot?

2137
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,800
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like literally the phone is hot?

2138
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: And is that a fucking drone? You know? There's a

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01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,640
Speaker 1: drone over my house every fucking night. You know. I'm like,

2140
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:38,680
Speaker 1: patting me down every time I seen him kind of

2141
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 1: talk to me, pat me down? But what's wrong with you?

2142
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 1: And people are like, you're fucking high, bro, I'm like, no,

2143
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm not. Actually I'm not. You know, I know what

2144
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I know exactly what I'm feeling right now,

2145
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 1: and uh, you know. But but but going through that

2146
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 1: and having you know your your wife be there, because

2147
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 1: that's the one person that you could probably talk to

2148
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 1: when all that ships happen. You're like, were you married

2149
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,640
Speaker 1: you this whole time? From we've been again almost twenty year.

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01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 1: She's been through you know, being you know, not having

2151
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:08,679
Speaker 1: a place to live, not having money, you know, starting

2152
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 1: the hustle with driving the bicycle to the first store

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01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 1: with the weed in the basket. You know, she was

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01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 1: there when we did all that. She was there the

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01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 1: night before we opened the first store, when we went

2156
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 1: to my friend's house. It was an apartment in Venice

2157
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 1: where it was a one bedroom. He turned the bedroom

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01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 1: into a grow uh, and he was sleeping on the

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01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 1: couch and we show up and he's got like his

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01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 1: buddies that each have a couple of ounces, and they're

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01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 1: like in these little turkey bags on the floor. This

2162
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 1: is the night before we opened the first door. And

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01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 1: it's me and her with like these whole food shopping bags,

2164
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 1: taking the ship, putting in our shopping bags, getting back

2165
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 1: into her Honda Accord, and driving back to this apartment

2166
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 1: where we laid the weed out and we're like, holy fuck,

2167
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:46,639
Speaker 1: like this is happening, you know. And then the next

2168
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 1: day throw the weed to the dispenser and we opened

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01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 1: it up. So she's definitely, you know, part of the store.

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01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 1: She was part of the movie. Well then that's that's

2171
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 1: what I said, you know, I was complimenting him because

2172
01:42:57,520 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: his dead or alive person that he wants smoke was

2173
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: as his wife. Really, you never her, No, it's I

2174
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 1: spoke with her all day. Okay, but still get that

2175
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 1: and continue to. I love that, and he loves doing it.

2176
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 1: And that's why I said, it's a very ponderful story.

2177
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 1: Think I was gonna ask school it was to But

2178
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 1: for me, the bigger picture is that you know, having

2179
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:18,640
Speaker 1: the you know, all of the controversy around the you know,

2180
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:22,040
Speaker 1: being in the news and having you know, obviously you know,

2181
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 1: you don't have to tell me to know that you

2182
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 1: have the news station at your house, at your work,

2183
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 1: popping up at your local grocery store, you know, following

2184
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 1: the probably the family and the kids did the news

2185
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 1: of the media. Father, I'm standing out front your honey,

2186
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 1: good neighborhood, good by, say you're right. That's a phone

2187
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 1: call from my my next door neighbor going, hey, you

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01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:50,640
Speaker 1: know you got four news The kids agree? I agree, okay, okay,

2189
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: uh are you sure they're in front of my house? Absolutely? Okay,

2190
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 1: because you kids took a jet to school, right, that

2191
01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 1: jet to school isn't the place right? They were from

2192
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 1: l a Culver City. You know, it's about it's about

2193
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 1: the commute. It's crazy to think the stories that we're

2194
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 1: about you and just all these things and to hear

2195
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 1: some truth. The funniest part about hearing that truth. We've

2196
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 1: actually supported it the whole time. We felt the way

2197
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 1: we've said what we've said. I've been like, bro, there's

2198
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 1: no fucking way like you know, right, companies they're being

2199
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, everything's watched. You can't get away with this,

2200
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:23,600
Speaker 1: like why would he kill himself like that? Like you

2201
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 1: know I have we've had these and the best part

2202
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 1: listen to the back things we talked about and we've

2203
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 1: didn't lay back. Like the show's titled mad Men has

2204
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 1: big layoffs, right, so it looks like the bash but

2205
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 1: oh mad miss cut down and we go, yeah, guess

2206
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 1: what worth they had to heard? Right now? The market

2207
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 1: Dale watch them just go sell a few places and

2208
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 1: then it makes some money. I mean, they're not gonna

2209
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 1: go wonder like you'd hear us saying. At my point

2210
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 1: is it's proven. It's great to have there have it. Yeah,

2211
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 1: And I'm saying like we have it to hear his

2212
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 1: character from from a view that you know, for those

2213
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 1: die hard listeners that we have, and we have them

2214
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 1: and you know they've heard this, they've heard this, you

2215
01:44:58,560 --> 01:44:59,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And some of them are shaking

2216
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:01,639
Speaker 1: their heads like hell yeah right now, you know because

2217
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 1: I know. Um, But Adam, is there anything that we

2218
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 1: missed that we we need to go over? You want

2219
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 1: to clarify, You want to clarify if you want to

2220
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:12,600
Speaker 1: get out there, Yes, please, what is it? Let's do

2221
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 1: it next time, Let's do it again. You know what, Adam,

2222
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 1: I think, honestly all bullshit aside. I just want to

2223
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 1: like go places with your kids because I feel like

2224
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 1: we're all around the same marriage. So like, Adam gonna

2225
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 1: be one of these guys. Are gonna be going Cash

2226
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 1: make sure you call and now we've got his number

2227
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:27,640
Speaker 1: two though, Cash, So Julie, we're gonna be hitting you

2228
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 1: up like, hey, bring the wife, bring the kids. Where

2229
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna do an event or we're doing something. Let's

2230
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 1: just let's just go. We're gonna I'm flatter, thank you guys.

2231
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 1: I'll be part of whatever you guys have going on. Well,

2232
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:38,720
Speaker 1: we want to be part of the next roll up.

2233
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Snacker says that forty or fifty you want

2234
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 1: to Tesla, well, listen, Adam, you know, thank you for

2235
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 1: joining us. Man to be honest with you, this one

2236
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 1: of the the most incredible shows I've had, just because

2237
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 1: I love living through your journey. It reminds me a

2238
01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 1: lot of my mind and and as you should shared

2239
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: your journey with us. I understand the journey is is

2240
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 1: you know the funniest part, right, A lot of people

2241
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 1: don't even you know, they don't know, they don't realize

2242
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 1: they're like trying to get till the money. It's the

2243
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 1: richest part. That is the richest part. Like like a

2244
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand it. Like I'm I'm I'm

2245
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 1: knowing that we like what we're doing. Like all this

2246
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 1: feeling of just trying to forget the trying that this

2247
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:22,479
Speaker 1: is doing is the win part. Right, We're winning right now,

2248
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, we're doing it. That's what it is. Yeah,

2249
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't, you know, know how

2250
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 1: to soak that in, you know, unless they're in that moment.

2251
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 1: I'm in that moment, Like, right, we're scaling ourselves right now,

2252
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 1: we're you know, we're seeing a lot of things that

2253
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 1: we don't know. We're starting to you don't run in

2254
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 1: through these pasts and and and walking through and the

2255
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,840
Speaker 1: kind of just watching, you know, you watch the snakes people.

2256
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 1: You know. Today someone asked me, hey, you know, have

2257
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:47,560
Speaker 1: you guys been approached by public companies anybody trying to

2258
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 1: acquire you guys yet? And I'm just like, you know,

2259
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 1: why are you looking? You know, like you know, like

2260
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 1: what you know? I see it, you know, and I

2261
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 1: have been offered in the past, I'll give you shares

2262
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 1: in this and that, and it's just a kind of

2263
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 1: a jerk off deal, right right, And I'm like, look,

2264
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna, you know, be that that bunch of

2265
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:08,720
Speaker 1: an idiot. But you know, the process of growth and

2266
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:11,720
Speaker 1: being successful, in my opinion, is that you know while

2267
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 1: you're while you're in it right now, you know that moment.

2268
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't catch that, right They

2269
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 1: they're just looking for the wind. They're like, when am

2270
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 1: I gonna win? They don't realize I'm already fucking winning,

2271
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 1: Like I'm living my dream. I just can't wait to

2272
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 1: go back to San Diego and go to a concert

2273
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 1: because I think he needs to throw another Black Eyed

2274
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:30,639
Speaker 1: Peace concert because we need to go. It's been awesome

2275
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 1: to thank you guys. Awesome. Yeah, you're here. You're welcome

2276
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 1: here anytime, use our platform to get any news you

2277
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,600
Speaker 1: want to out, clarifying news or just come hang up

2278
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 1: and you're always welcome. Right well, guys, is Adam bermanman R?

2279
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 1: Yeah right here on just talk one O one man.

2280
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 1: If no one else loves you, we do. Let's go

2281
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:56,599
Speaker 1: get our jett and get out of here. Thank you

2282
01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 1: for listening to Cannabis Talk one on one on the

2283
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get

2284
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 1: your podcasts. M hm