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Speaker 1: First of all, man, we appreciate you coming on the

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Speaker 1: show man. Like, man, we were big fans of your game.

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Speaker 1: You know, we down in Orlando, so we see a

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Speaker 1: lot of the Miami games.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Man, we love what you're doing and how you steady growing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're so definitely appreciate you have us in your lovely home.

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Speaker 2: Let's get this started.

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Speaker 1: First question I asked everybody is who's the first person

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Speaker 1: to bush your when you got to the league.

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Speaker 2: Ah, it was La.

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Speaker 3: It's big La Marcus Audis a whole lot of jump

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Speaker 3: first person really like, welcome me to the league for

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Speaker 3: my rookie year. I think it was like a second

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Speaker 3: second home game after preseason home.

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Speaker 2: But you know the Spurs.

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Speaker 3: That's when he was on the Spurs, and you know

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Speaker 3: they always had that that rivalry or whatever. So coach

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Speaker 3: come up to me and shoot around big fellow on playing.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know it.

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Speaker 3: So at the end of shoot around, he was like, hey,

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Speaker 3: you starting tonight, all right, whatever you got you got

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Speaker 3: l a all right, bet.

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Speaker 2: Fuck it, we're in there.

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Speaker 3: So, uh, Josh Richardson was my teammate at the time.

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Speaker 2: He come on, he said, Man, no, no jump face,

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Speaker 2: like just stay on the floor. He can't.

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Speaker 3: He can't out quick you first two. So I was like,

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Speaker 3: all right, I'm not gonna let him. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: let him get it, so up, fake foul. So next

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Speaker 3: you know, byt the third quarter, I look up, he

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Speaker 3: got like thirty two.

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Speaker 2: And that was my third or four quarter.

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Speaker 3: Third he had thirty two and the third and then

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Speaker 3: he ended with forty. So that was my little bust in.

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Speaker 2: The locker room. How you how you feel when you're

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Speaker 2: in the locker room? Now? I feel bad? Shit real?

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Speaker 4: What did j say to you after the fact, after

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Speaker 4: you told you all of the good advice?

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Speaker 3: Man, listen, No, that's some choice. Him and U D

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Speaker 3: just looked at me. It's just man, man, you just

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Speaker 3: can't do nothing about that. Just one of those things

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Speaker 3: you just can't do nothing about. It's gonna beat.

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Speaker 2: Yo, yo yo.

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Speaker 4: We live on location from a secret location here in

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Speaker 4: my JAMMI We at the Palatio States of the kid

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Speaker 4: Dynamite one Bam out of by Yo.

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Speaker 2: We got the All Star, the.

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Speaker 4: Olympian gold Medalist, big Boy contract Alert Boy contract Alert.

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Speaker 4: We got the Miami Heat anchor, the new anchor, the

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Speaker 4: heat in the building y'all check this out. Man, we

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Speaker 4: appreciate them having us in this beautiful establishment. Tapping and knucklehead.

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Speaker 1: Born in Newark, New Jersey. Then you moved to North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: How was that? Uh do you remember the move? I

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Speaker 1: know you was young? I do the move pros.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom had had a life decision to make.

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Speaker 3: While I was growing up. It was gangs. It was

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Speaker 3: fighting and that was like every day, and uh, my

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Speaker 3: mom didn't want me to be a part of that,

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Speaker 3: so she moved this to the country, North Carolina, and

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Speaker 3: uh country.

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Speaker 2: Boar in North Carolina. That's that's where I'm from. Man.

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Speaker 2: I claim that, just like he claimed Saint Louis.

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Speaker 4: And you claim the rat Uh Huh I claimed Chicago.

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Speaker 2: My bad, bad, my bad? Excuse me? Yeah, so North Carolina?

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Speaker 2: Growing up in North Carolina, how was it?

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Speaker 1: Uh? When you got to high school and you started

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Speaker 1: being in like a little name for yourself in high school,

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Speaker 3: Cool for me because, uh, a lot of people around

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Speaker 3: me ain't ever get that type of like exposure like one,

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Speaker 3: It's not like a lot of dudes that's getting like

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Speaker 3: was just like I was carrying that carrying that torch.

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Speaker 3: I felt like it was a responsibility. Yeah, it felt

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Speaker 3: like it started to become a responsibility. And it was

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Speaker 3: just me hooping, you know, the fact that I could

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Speaker 3: high school, it was one of the best ones ever.

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Speaker 2: I felt like I was on top of the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a mama's boy, so I know you a

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Speaker 1: mama's boy too, And you know, it was me and

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Speaker 1: my MoMA for a long time. And did your mama

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom actually hooped. That's why we were thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, she hooped in high school and she got injured

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Speaker 3: and she never played again. I don't know why. She'll

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Speaker 3: never tell me why, but she's never played again. She

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Speaker 3: wore thirteen, So that's why I were a number now.

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Speaker 1: So it was your mama taking you everywhere. It was

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Speaker 1: trying to hoop anything. She was always at work.

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Speaker 3: So like when I was in high school, my coaches

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Speaker 2: Me home, pick me up for games. Uh, that's how

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Speaker 3: And you know it's because my mom was such a

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Speaker 3: good person and well respected. Ain't nobody had no problem

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Speaker 1: For your mom was famous before you was famous. Basically,

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Speaker 1: that's how it was.

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Speaker 2: I knew my mom. I knew my mom before me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like that's a Eltha sign. So I made a name

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Speaker 4: Were you Was you already hooping before you left Newark?

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Speaker 4: Or did you start playing ball when you got to Charlotte?

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Speaker 4: When did you get introduced to the game.

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Speaker 2: I ain't start hooping until sixth grade? How did that start?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: I was in the I was across the street at

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Speaker 3: in and was like, yo, like, uh, you know you

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Speaker 3: should start playing travel ball. At that time, I didn't

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Speaker 3: even care about basketball for real, Like it wasn't like outside.

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Speaker 3: It was just one of those things like all right,

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Speaker 3: like it ain't nothing to it, and uh, you saying no,

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Speaker 3: I want you to try the travel ball team. I

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Speaker 3: got on the team and I started to like really

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Speaker 3: love it, Like I started to like really buy into it,

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Speaker 2: Was you always like the biggest kid or you sprout

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Speaker 2: it up late? No, I was always the biggest kid.

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Speaker 2: He was always big, bigger than that. Yeah, so you

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Speaker 2: know we always get that that term, like you know,

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Speaker 2: you're clumsy. Yeah, you're bigger than I got big feet

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Speaker 4: Will you say your real full name for me? I

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Speaker 4: know what it says, but I don't know what it says,

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Speaker 4: so I don't want.

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Speaker 2: To mess that up at a bio.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So did bam come from like bam bam from

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Speaker 4: the Flintstones? Like breaking stuff and bam bam? Like yeah

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Speaker 4: you like baby?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a big ass kid.

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Speaker 3: I got it because I flipped over a coffee table

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Speaker 3: at like one years old.

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Speaker 2: I'm not making this ship up. My mom flipped it over,

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Speaker 2: like like flipped that motherfucker, and my mom just ever

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Speaker 2: Were you upset or were you just having fun?

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Speaker 3: She told me I was watching the Flintstones, so I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there a goo see I like that.

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Speaker 1: That's old school man thirty and ten in your junior year,

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Speaker 1: they kind of went through the rankings in this state

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Speaker 1: time for getting at your junior year and then going

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Speaker 2: Said thirty and ten. Yeah it was thirty twenty, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: It was thirty and twenty. Was gonna say name, I

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Speaker 4: Let a whole rebounds, right, letting that right, fool you.

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Speaker 2: I love rebound. I'm like, wait a minute, like, wait.

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Speaker 1: Well, thirty and twenty, that's even crazy ridiculous. Thirty and

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Speaker 1: what's the mindset you have?

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Speaker 2: Like coming off a junior year like that.

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Speaker 1: And you got one more year in high school ship

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Speaker 1: prove yourself.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to one a state title. That was my

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Speaker 2: That was my biggest thing.

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Speaker 3: And we lost in the state title game, but uh,

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Speaker 3: that was my ultimate goal in high school. Like first

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Speaker 3: I wanted to bust motherfucker's ass for show, and then

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Speaker 3: I wanted a chip.

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Speaker 2: That's it. What's the biggest gross spurt you had and

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Speaker 3: Was it biggest gross spurt like in basketball, and like

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Speaker 2: Let me just say, how tall were you like in

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Speaker 2: And it's just that's crazy around check versati for real.

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Speaker 1: Every time, your class that you came out of your

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Speaker 1: They got a lot of guys in the league now,

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Speaker 1: the superstars, and a lot of big contracting money getting made.

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Speaker 3: And you you definitely say, our classes, I give us

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Speaker 3: top three, top three that y'all can give us that, Okay, okay, rich.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. That's like, yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: We don't see young man, y'all, yng y'all young we

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Speaker 1: gonna see at the end of all y'alls when it's

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Speaker 1: it's all sitting done because a lot of the other ones,

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Speaker 1: everybody's stacked up kind of done, and they stack up

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Speaker 1: real big ninety six that lebron them. That Jordan Hill,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, uh, who was some of the guys

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Speaker 1: the level that you see you and Tatum and Monk

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Speaker 1: and everybody else made that. You thought was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a show gonna be Uh.

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Speaker 2: Quay Parker, I heard that name before he was big

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Speaker 2: in high school. Quay Parker in seven Woods.

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Speaker 4: Seven Woods had bounce. I remember him on the ball.

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Speaker 4: He had some of the sickest ball in his life mixtape.

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Speaker 4: That's when I started watching that stuff. Like he used

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Speaker 4: to be all over there.

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Speaker 3: But we was all on the same team and there

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Speaker 3: you it was me, it was Quay, it was seventh

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Speaker 3: and we had Dennis Smith, Junior Smith.

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Speaker 2: That's a whole lot of bounce on one team.

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Speaker 1: Boy, good lord, I mean I was winning a bunch

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Speaker 1: of terms this summer, was y'all no way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, now, come on now. Be used to

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Speaker 2: be uh.

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Speaker 3: I think we'd be at the team by like ninety

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Speaker 3: two points one game. And that was that was when

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Speaker 3: you know, when you get to the forty point rule,

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Speaker 3: you got.

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Speaker 2: To stay inside the arc.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the whole time you're standing outside the arc

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Speaker 3: every time they shoot it miss score and like the.

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Speaker 4: Old school women's Yukon and Tennessee score on Tennessee and

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Speaker 4: used to beat up on teams.

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Speaker 2: And you used to beat up on.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was like really in that mode of like nah,

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Speaker 1: To go to a school like Kentucky and you know,

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Speaker 3: It was easy to sacrifice when everybody sacrifice, Like it's

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Speaker 2: You get a touch, you get a touch, you get

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Speaker 3: Cal letting us do it in our own way. It

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Speaker 1: When did y'all click though, because it seemed like by

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Speaker 3: I would say midway through sc play, I think we

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Speaker 2: March is what we're aiming for.

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Speaker 3: And as Sea playoff forel like, after we lost to Tennessee,

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Speaker 4: Was it anywhere else you could have went to they

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Speaker 4: could have got you. Was it a chance for you

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Speaker 3: I mean, every kidd want to play home, like like

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Speaker 2: They want to play home. I'm from the hoop state.

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Speaker 3: North Carolina has so much history in basketball, right, I'd

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Speaker 3: And then at that point I was still going there

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Speaker 2: Dennis Smith right right, How was it for you draft?

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Speaker 1: Like, you know, getting drafted and you know having your

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Speaker 2: We all watched the draft every year. How was it

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Speaker 3: My draft experience was I didn't know how to feel like.

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Speaker 3: It went from my agent calling me say, man, you

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Speaker 3: might be in the green room, you might not, like

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure this and the third too like a

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Speaker 3: So in the greenroom the whole time, like me, greenroom

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Speaker 2: So I did get to like ten. Now I'm starting

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Speaker 2: I wasn't. I was like, I'm not the top five

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Speaker 3: So, like obviously everybody you know, I wanted to play

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Speaker 3: I really wanted to perform for Charlotte, Like I wanted

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Speaker 2: And I was like and I was like, man, I

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Speaker 3: Like be from where I'm from and like really like

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Speaker 2: It was like man's next level, but uh, getting down

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Speaker 3: My agent was to the right of me, my mom's

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Speaker 3: you know, the ticker going for the fourteenth pick is Miami.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sitting there. I was like, man, I don't

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, it'd be cool to go to Miami,

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Speaker 3: like you know, nice weather, like t wading them. Like

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking about the whole Triple A, like the history

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Speaker 3: and it was just like one of those things where

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Speaker 3: on the other side, it's like I still got work

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Speaker 2: The stands like this ain't just to get here.

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Speaker 1: You know, you wanted to go to Charlotte, but to

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Speaker 3: I wasn't mad because it's my home Yeah, it's my homie.

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Speaker 3: And then like I'm always gonna be happy for like

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Speaker 2: Make it so like it was cool with me. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now did I want to go to Charlotte? Yeah? I did.

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Speaker 2: I definitely boy, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But that was my homeboy, and I was like, nah, bro,

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Speaker 3: I saw they respect that because at the end of

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Speaker 3: to eat like I'm gonna eat.

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Speaker 1: Pat Riley is like the boss of all bosses to me.

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Speaker 1: Every time I see him, it's like he's it's like

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Speaker 1: history in the room, slick back here, like the boss

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Speaker 1: he got the one uh, the one, the one suit

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Speaker 1: ships folded up like I always love pat Riley. When

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Speaker 1: knowing who he is, Like, how was that for you?

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Speaker 2: Man? The first time I met Pat? I uh, was

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Speaker 2: you scared? I wasn't really nervous. But you hear you

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Speaker 3: Like you like you hear like like they want to

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Speaker 3: call them horror stories into like the culture, like him

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Speaker 3: trying to fight shock like that, like like him going

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Speaker 2: So you hear all that.

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Speaker 3: And the first time I met him is my pre

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Speaker 3: it's on some Godfathers. So I walk in the office,

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Speaker 3: lights off, extulf for the one over is over his desk.

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Speaker 2: One chip to move.

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Speaker 3: Man, Oh, come in, come in, come in. So we

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Speaker 2: Nothing, man, it's pitch black. And now.

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Speaker 3: It was so how you doing, like you know, we

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Speaker 3: like the way you play this then and the third

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Speaker 3: it was like we look forward to watching you work out.

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Speaker 2: That was it. That was it. Tell me tell me

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Speaker 2: how like now you've been in the league how many years?

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Speaker 2: Five years? Right?

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Speaker 4: So you've got peers, You've got guys in different places,

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Speaker 4: You've had guys come to Miami that's been in the

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Speaker 4: league before. What have you learned about the team and

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Speaker 4: the heat culture? You know that that it is. I

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Speaker 4: know you don't know anything else, but just listening to

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Speaker 4: different guys that come in that haven't been there, it's

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Speaker 4: been different places. What have you learned about the difference

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Speaker 4: that you got blessed to be drafted into.

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Speaker 3: Uh, we got a standard and win with none of

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Speaker 3: say like like like you're gonna show up on time,

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Speaker 3: like you're gonna do what you need to do, and

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Speaker 3: like we're not, we're not with no like that complaining

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Speaker 3: and one through fifteen one through one through fifteen, Like, nah,

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Speaker 3: you ain't. You ain't played in three games. You're gonna condition,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna get in shape. You like they want you

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Speaker 3: to have us.

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Speaker 2: Be ready to go. You're gonna be ready to go

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Speaker 2: at all times. Talk about this.

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Speaker 4: That's one of the things that like I only got

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Speaker 4: like I played the rest of my career. And it's

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Speaker 4: like we do write jail different people. We laugh and

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Speaker 4: joke about it all the time, talk about how that

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Speaker 4: like going out there, going.

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Speaker 3: To a club, you are making decisions. This decision of

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Speaker 3: the waiting body fact, Like it's been a couple of times,

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Speaker 3: like you know, you've been in the hotel night before

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Speaker 3: a game and like you're like, man, I want this,

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Speaker 3: I want I want this ice cream, but it'll be like, nah,

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Speaker 3: we got waiting body fat.

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Speaker 2: Like and it's more so like.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a mind game with waiting body fat,

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Speaker 3: Like that's what they do to you, Like it's a

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Speaker 3: mind game. Like it's like the ice cream really not

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Speaker 3: play twenty eight minutes a game, and ice cream really

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Speaker 3: not gonna hurt you, But it's the fact that.

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Speaker 2: Might not hurt you. Don't speak for everybody. You're right,

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Speaker 2: you're right, My bad. My bad was the ice cream

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Speaker 2: won't gonna hurt me.

442
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 3: But it was still a couple of days where I'd

443
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 3: be like, man, I'm not eating that, Like I gotta

444
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: waiting body fat. And it's like it's like frowned upon

445
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 3: for real, Like it's frowned upon, and like the culture

446
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 3: of like your waiting body fat ain't where it's supposed

447
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 3: to be, like because we make it, we make it

448
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: a competition, Like don't nobody want to be at the bottom.

449
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 4: This is the type of thing that like I never

450
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 4: had this in my life. When I came here, I

451
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 4: had a scale in my bathroom every single morning I

452
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 4: woke up. It won'tna be no surprise for me when

453
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 4: I get to the gym, Like when they traded for me,

454
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 4: bro No, like I told you the first thing I did.

455
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 2: They shut up. I come to the gym, they picked

456
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 2: me up from the from the airport.

457
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 4: Come to the arena. I'm thinking, I don't know what

458
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 4: I'm thinking. After I was gonna go to the hotel

459
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 4: whatever gets situated. Nah, straight to the arena, Come to

460
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 4: the arena, come in the locker room.

461
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 2: Deal has a great day to lift. Shout out the bill.

462
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: It's a great day, a great day to live.

463
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 4: He waiting on mem he's standing there. I don't even

464
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 4: know who he is. A right, take off your clothes.

465
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 4: We gotta give him a skill. I'm like, look like

466
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 4: what you mean, Like I just got here. He's like, yeah,

467
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 4: strip down to your boxes, get on the scale. Pat

468
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 4: won't put waiting body fat before you even go up to.

469
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: The meeting, for you even to for you to touch

470
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: the court. Bro, they don't play about it. Get up there.

471
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 2: He got all that. He got a little little sticky

472
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: on this.

473
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 4: He got a little like, yeah, so this is this

474
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 4: is that He's like, yeah, we don't do that.

475
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: It teaches your accountability.

476
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 3: That that's the biggest thing, like you learn here, if

477
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 3: you if you get to be in there, like it

478
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 3: teaches your accountability about yourself, about your health because once

479
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 3: you once you get to the point where like your

480
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 3: body fat is where it is like you feel like

481
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: the best you felt. So it's like it's one of

482
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 3: those things were like all right, you're gonna hate that

483
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: ship in the beginning because you're gonna you gotta get

484
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 3: in ship. You gotta run, you gotta lift, and it

485
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: ain't no ducking it like they gonna text you every day.

486
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: Waiting body fat is you know, you get off the court,

487
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 3: you think you done, and Bill pull yourside like nah,

488
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 3: we got we got some conditioning to do on a treadmill.

489
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: And you're looking at like, man, y'all running me in

490
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: the ground.

491
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, a lot of dudes come here,

492
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: and a lot of dudes don't crumble my five years

493
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 3: understend that a lot of dudes quit.

494
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: You ain't built for If you ain't built for it,

495
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: you can't be here.

496
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: And one thing about it, I will say that waiting

497
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 3: body fat will humble a lot of humble a lot

498
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 3: of dudes.

499
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: Man, it will humble a lot of dudes.

500
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: Dog Like once you see the sheet like your name

501
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: at the bottom.

502
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: And you're looking at that sheet like damn, like nah, man,

503
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: I can't have that.

504
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 3: Like we talking about being more professional, like being in shape, this,

505
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 3: that and the third and walking around like carrying ourselves.

506
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: I would carry ourselves so like that that waiting body fat.

507
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 3: It holds you to a standard and accountability, and honestly,

508
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: a lot of dudes take that with them.

509
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you they'd be better. Yeah, let me

510
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: ask you this. You sacrifice, you be the man, and

511
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: you have so much success, and then you play on

512
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: these teams and playing the right way. It's hard to

513
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: play the right way when you feel like you can

514
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 1: do so much more. But you played the right way,

515
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: and now you're in the position where you're getting all

516
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: this success by playing the right way.

517
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: How was that for you to?

518
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: No matter what the situation was from Kentucky, you first

519
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: getting in the league, or you might feel in somebody

520
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: that's in front of you that you better than you,

521
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: still stuck it out by playing the right way and

522
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: not being selfish for your teammates or just for yourself

523
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: bigger picture.

524
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: That's how I had think. I had to think bigger picture.

525
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 3: So it was it was a lot of times, you know,

526
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: I was in the game and I'd be like, man,

527
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: like I can do more. Yeah, I could do so

528
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: much more. Like like I'm looking at sposed. I used

529
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: to be mad as hell and my rookie year, Yeah,

530
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 3: I used to be like, oh, just let me go,

531
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: like let me who But it was one of those

532
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 3: things like I had to look at it from like

533
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: his standpoint, Kid, I don't really know you like that, Like, yeah,

534
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 3: I don't really trust you like that to be out

535
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: here like really like moving and grooving and like just

536
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: doing whatever you feel. So when me and Sposed like

537
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 3: really growing things and uh now we're to the point

538
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,239
Speaker 3: and he let me go, so I don't really sit

539
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: down to me no more at this point.

540
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 4: That was what I loved. I think that's why we

541
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 4: hit it off the way we did. I think once

542
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 4: Spose figures you out and he knows that you're about

543
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 4: winning about the team, as long as he knows because like,

544
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 4: like you know me, I'm hot head. I always got

545
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 4: something to say. So me and him would like often

546
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: like here go, I'll go. And then as long as

547
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 4: he knew that whatever I was doing was about the team,

548
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 4: he didn't give a damn. He didn't hold no personal

549
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: grudge or make it like something did some deal, and

550
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: like I think he saw that. I mean, that's why

551
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 4: we got a great relationship today. I thought the spot

552
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 4: text him all the time, and you know, we got

553
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: a solid relationship. But I think he saw that. And

554
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,239
Speaker 4: that's what I always respected about him, that he was

555
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 4: never scared to like get back with the ship with

556
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 4: and then like to be able to do that and

557
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 4: still not make it personal and that shit over with

558
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: when it's over with. Like it's a lot of coaches

559
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 4: to still be like, man when you get through it,

560
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: that he looking at you sideways or got a problem

561
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 4: like Spo, didn't give a damn, especially if it was

562
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 4: just about what it was about.

563
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: Like he was good about that and he shot straight.

564
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: I always respected about him.

565
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: I will say he uh he Let dudes be theyself, yeap.

566
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, if you blow up

567
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: in the locker room, like you want to throw some shit,

568
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: are cool as long as we win it, Like like

569
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: he cool with like dudes like, nah, coach, we ain't

570
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 3: running that. We ain't we ain't running that. Like let's

571
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: keep doing this like on the run, and like a

572
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: dude be like yo, he be like check in, dude,

573
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: Like nah, coach, del to run. Let him go like

574
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 3: hell like he he listened to us. But like if

575
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: it ain't about winning here, none of that. Man, You

576
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 3: like if you start thinking like it's about buckets and

577
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 3: you ain't for the teams, and it ain't.

578
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: Then he got out of conversation.

579
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: You considered the small center heightwise, like a lot of

580
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: the other centers are a little bit, you know, got

581
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: a little inch.

582
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 2: You know, it's as big dudes.

583
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: We see a little inch smaller than us, we feel

584
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: like we're bigger. You know what I'm saying to you

585
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: got to be very competitive to see these big guys

586
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: to be your position and to move how you move.

587
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: You're not the typical big man that everywhere else in

588
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: the league. How was that to compete at the center position,

589
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: make your mark in the league, to make these All

590
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: Star games, and you know, have to go against them

591
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: bigus and all the best big man's in the league.

592
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: Ah, I had to use a different approach, like I couldn't.

593
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: I'm not going down there like wrestling, like oh yeah

594
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: that Like my first thing is like you're a post president.

595
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to let you catch the ball. You

596
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: know how we read the post. Yeah, like, I'm not

597
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: letting you catch it. So at that point you catch

598
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: it that three point line, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good

599
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: at that point.

600
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: More I push you out, I push you out, You're good,

601
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: like you can't.

602
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: And then I always took pride in that, Like I

603
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: always took pride in getting stops.

604
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: That was excitement for me.

605
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: Uh and it still is like getting to stop getting

606
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: again that we call them kills and uh in the

607
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 3: locker room, like getting the kid getting to stop in

608
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: like pivotal moments and uh, it's one of those things

609
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: like I just took so much pride in because that's

610
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: what got me on the court, like and then gates

611
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: open from there.

612
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: How was it the first time you made the playoffs?

613
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: Like how it changed from the regular season to the

614
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: playoffs and you like you see the atmosphere.

615
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: Man, my rookie year we went to the playoffs, I

616
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: think it was like six and eighties at the time,

617
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: and it was like every day we went to practice,

618
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: like it was like it got to the point where

619
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: like I knew all they plays.

620
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know every action.

621
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: I knew everything, And it was like it was it

622
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: was to nausea because you know, we want to preparation

623
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: up here. Yeah, you want to make sure you know

624
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: every play. And it went from scouting and knowing everybody

625
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: tendencies like and uh, that was the biggest difference like

626
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: you know, in the regular season, it's game by game,

627
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 3: so like they give you like little hents because we're

628
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: gonna play them again. But when they're getting the playoffs,

629
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: they give book. They give you the book. Book. You

630
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 3: got everybody tendencies, you got their average us against people

631
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: like other people are the teams. And it's like it's

632
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: one of those things where you just you just if

633
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: you want to know some ship, you just flipped you're

634
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: going there. It's like it's like reading the store and

635
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: he averaged this that and the third and this year

636
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: with this and that.

637
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: Like I'm talking about to the to the t.

638
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: Would you rather hit the game winner or get a

639
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: block at the end of the game?

640
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: I did both? Uh? Which one field the best? Like

641
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: to get that? I did both both? Experience which one? Uh?

642
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: Not hypothetical here he's done both.

643
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: People.

644
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: You want a few people we can ask this question,

645
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 3: So I would say situationalise the block. Was it was

646
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 3: better than me? Yeah, it was more rare than me because, uh,

647
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: first it was my homeboy.

648
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 4: I hated it had to be. I was like, yo,

649
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 4: when it happened.

650
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: That's my Uh, that's my homeboy.

651
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: But on the other thing, it was like nobody expected

652
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: that happened like that, Like everybody thought he was going

653
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: to dunk it and uh having that moment and it

654
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: was in the playoffs. Obviously that was the difference in it.

655
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: But I say the blo for sure, did.

656
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: You find out in the bubble like it clicked to you, like, yeah,

657
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm one of them in these in this league? Is

658
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: that the year old was the year before or was

659
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: it the bubble year? That what y'all did and what

660
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: y'all was able to accomplish and it made you focus

661
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: more because you know what was going on going around

662
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: nothing but y'all on your teammate, I.

663
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: Would say, yeah, the bubble year was really like I

664
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: was like, nah, like like I do this like uh,

665
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: like I was, I was in there and I was like, na,

666
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: like I'm putting up numbers, like because that was my

667
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: whole goal in the bubble, Like now you got to

668
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: put up numbers. Y'all got a shot because I think

669
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: it was fourth and uh fourth and fifth in the

670
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: East at the time, and I was like, nah, we

671
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: got a shot. So uh, being in the bubble, I

672
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: was playing well and after the bubble thinking about it,

673
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 3: I was like, nah, like I like I'm one of them, Like, uh,

674
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: like I'm on the scout report. That's how I felt.

675
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 3: That's how I felt. I was like, I'm a big

676
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: I'm a big circle on the scouting report for people.

677
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: Talk to me through y'all the mentality. I mean, I

678
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 4: feel like I kind of know what it is. I

679
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 4: talked to Moliku a lot, and I talked to him

680
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 4: right afterwards after the bubble, But talk to me about

681
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 4: the mentality that you guys had going into the bubble

682
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: and why you feel like it kind of worked to

683
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: your advantage.

684
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

685
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: We felt like a lot of dudes were like mentally

686
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 3: mentally tough for the bubble, and uh, you know, Miami,

687
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: we preach you know, most professional, like hardest working, clean cut,

688
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: like we preached like that standard.

689
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 2: The bubble felt like it was. We felt like we

690
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: was conditioned for that.

691
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: You know, you know how it is in the culture,

692
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 3: like you get it out the mud, so like we do.

693
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: That's how we felt about it. It was like and we

694
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: just getting out the mud.

695
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: And I felt like a lot of dudes, you know,

696
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: get used to having their routines are like at home,

697
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: Like when we switched to the bubble, there was no

698
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 3: going home for a couple of months. It wanted to

699
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 3: be there and that was our mindset, and I brung

700
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 3: our team closer together.

701
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard y'all had like one of the smallest

702
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 4: travel parties as far as like y'all, you know, everybody

703
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 4: was bringing. When it got to the point where family

704
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 4: and different people can come in, like y'all still had

705
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 4: the smallest contingency, like y'all really you know, bunker down.

706
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: It was like, this is a business trip, this whole thing.

707
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 4: We gotta sacrifice this if we want to get that,

708
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 4: And that was what you know, I feel like that

709
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 4: was one of the biggest differences with y'all team the

710
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 4: whole You could see the mentality. And then you know,

711
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 4: I was close to a lot of different people that

712
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 4: were in there and just talking to different people they

713
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 4: said that about you guys, And then when I talked

714
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 4: to some people in there, I could tell that was

715
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 4: the difference.

716
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Goat, you know, one of the

717
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: ghosts of Miami, Ud you know, you know, ripping my

718
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: man heart and has Ud been for you to be

719
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: there a long time? He played know the ropes and

720
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: how has he been helping you out so far in

721
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: your career having him there, I.

722
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: Mean he became like, uh, like he's like my brother now,

723
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: so like, uh, we go out to dinner, we go

724
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: out to eat, Uh, we kick it, talk basketball. But

725
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: he don't help me so much in my career just

726
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 3: off of advice, just sole advice and going into games,

727
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: hey be like you know this, that and the third,

728
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: this and the third, and uh, I try to apply it.

729
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: That's why I can in the game. I mean, he's

730
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: just one of those dudes just put me on game

731
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: like since I've been in the league and uh, and

732
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: that's on and off the court businesses. Yeah, he one

733
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 3: of those dudes you genuinely want to see you win.

734
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: Tell them to.

735
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: Stop throwing him lives when they finally put him in

736
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: the game, Like, ain't catch no more lives out there

737
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: many damn and try to hurt my man.

738
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: The other night, I threw my man alive like that. No,

739
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: without how I do.

740
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: Won't you to speak on the importance of guys like

741
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: ud like for you, Like like he said, from day one,

742
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 4: you come in being a rookie not really you know,

743
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: knowing what's going on, and then you having a guy

744
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 4: like that that you know, got the experience and been

745
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 4: through what he's been through. But then he's not only

746
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 4: helping you on the court, he's helping you off the

747
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 4: court and just with everything you need. Like how how

748
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 4: impactful was he, you know, for you to get here?

749
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 4: You know, one and done kid out of college and

750
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: you got somebody waiting for you here to help you

751
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 4: with the stuff that he was able to help you for.

752
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 4: How impactful was that for you when you got here?

753
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: Uh? And even now still he's still.

754
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: Man, it still is because when I first got here,

755
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: you know, he was teaching me the game of like

756
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: just just trying to like how to move in the city.

757
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: Like I mean like important as a nineteen year old,

758
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 3: you know, coming from North Carolina and you get drafted

759
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: by the Miami. He first thing you hear is Miami,

760
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: Like I ain't ever been. I ain't never been there.

761
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: So he put me aside day one. You know, hey,

762
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 3: young fella, you ever need something like this my city,

763
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: Like you know, I know the ends and the out

764
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: so I can teach you how to move this, that

765
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: and the third and then from the from there, I

766
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: just was like, you know, he willing to help me,

767
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: so That's how we kind of.

768
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: Developed our bond.

769
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: And uh, it was just impactful because now that I

770
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: look at it, like I knoww to move in the city,

771
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: Like like I take care of myself here there, Like

772
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: I take care of myself and I take care of

773
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: the people that you know, need help. So like I

774
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: was big in the community work. So like he taught

775
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 3: me like, hey man, go to Liberty c this, that

776
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: and the third give back I met Luca Campbell.

777
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: And just being around those dudes and hearing like.

778
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 3: Their stories and how they yeah, like how they helped

779
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: the community. I wanted to be a part of that.

780
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: That's dope. Did you know Jimmy before he plays? I didn't. Actually,

781
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: what was your first encounter with Jimmy?

782
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 4: Uh?

783
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: First, what was my first account? I think my rookieear

784
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: we played Minnesota. He ain't gonna admit to it, but

785
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 3: you know I got that stop. I got that stop.

786
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: But when he first got to Miami, you know, you

787
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: hear everything in the media, Like you hear all he

788
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: had cancer, this, that, and the third like he you know,

789
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 3: he verbally abuses his teammates like.

790
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: Like you're hearing all this and it's like.

791
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna judge the

792
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 3: dude off of social media first of all, like I'm

793
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 3: a meet you and like, all right, then I you know,

794
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: I get a feel feel you out from there. But

795
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: when he first got here, one of the coolest dudes

796
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: I've met, like in the NBA, like walking in what up, Man,

797
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: I'm Jimmy this jan and third like but you know, no,

798
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go but uh, he one of those people.

799
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: He comfortable in his skin, like he listened to what

800
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: he would listen to, and like he go about his

801
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: way the way you go about it. But at the

802
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 3: end of the day, a lot of people get rubbed

803
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: the wrong way with Jimmy because he say what's on

804
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: his mind? I love him, Yeah, you're a straight shooter

805
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: like it or not, and I am, and that the

806
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 3: end of the day, it's all for winning. He's one

807
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: of those guys like he said, what's on his mind,

808
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: but like in his mind though, he's like, nah, I

809
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: want to win, Like yeah, So it's all out of love.

810
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: The way I see it. Uh.

811
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: This is one of the things I love about the

812
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 4: Heat Organization, and they do a great job of of

813
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 4: having that one anchor of stability, whether it's you know

814
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I call it like on the court

815
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 4: in off the court, because if you look at it,

816
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 4: I feel like it started with Zoe.

817
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Zoe has always been that

818
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: that one face. You know what I'm saying, You walking

819
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: a lot in the wait room.

820
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 4: You see you see.

821
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: No I can't. I know this.

822
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 4: I'm not the big dog no more. You're not about

823
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 4: to break my knuckles right here. You squeeze too hard.

824
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 4: You got it. But they've had that symbol of connectivity.

825
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 4: I feel like it was Zoe Zo passed that torch

826
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 4: and brought up U D obviously, and now you got

827
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 4: UD bringing up the next generation, which I feel is you.

828
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 4: How do you feel to be like, so to speak,

829
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 4: the next one in line to kind of carry that torch?

830
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: Uh? You do?

831
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: Always said, you know, you gotta have enough heart out

832
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: here for everybody thirteen and he said that some of

833
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: the most random bro He said at the most random times,

834
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: like you gotta have enough heart out here for everybody.

835
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: O G. And I always used to think, like why

836
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: you keep saying that?

837
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: But it was more so like just getting my mond

838
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: wrapped around like nah, like you, you gotta be the

839
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: heart and soul of his team, like you, you got

840
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: to carry this weight in his standard.

841
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: And you know, he bet you know how you break

842
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: it down.

843
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: You know, listen, man, I'm telling you right here, man,

844
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 3: like you, he started doing that. That's how you know

845
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: he really into the conversation though. He start doing this

846
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: like conversation, conversation is real, swisted like.

847
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: Something like it's real.

848
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: And I was always wondering, like like what do you

849
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: mean like heart and soul, like bro, I'm out here,

850
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: like I'm doing my thing, like I'm getting but it

851
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: didn't click until like my third fourth and like now

852
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: this year, like no, like I gotta you gotta understand

853
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: the ins and outs, like the whole team, Like you

854
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 3: gotta understand the dynamic. You gotta make sure it work

855
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: and when when it's not, you gotta be one of

856
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: the reasons why the switch cut back on and you

857
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 3: start to get back on track.

858
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: So it was just like he was just pressing me

859
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: for that moment.

860
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 4: I just hope all of the general managers, all the

861
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 4: little Internet people this got stuff to say. I really

862
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 4: listening and understanding the value the U D and how

863
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 4: invaluable he is and what his presence does, because I

864
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 4: know that's our partner.

865
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: We know on a different level.

866
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 4: But you hearing it firsthand from somebody who's an All Star,

867
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 4: who's in a gold medalist, Olympian, a MAX player, who's

868
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 4: benefited directly from u D. So when y'all asking why

869
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: and what, this is one of the reasons why and.

870
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 1: What, let's hold on. Excuse me, this is not for you.

871
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: Let's talk defender talk. You know what I'm saying, Real

872
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: defender talk. You know, real defenders like I know you.

873
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: Know he played with the heat and I played there

874
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 4: within his coach was my old coach.

875
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: You ain't a real defender though his other coaches was

876
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: my teammates.

877
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: He can ask, yeah, because they got the system to

878
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: help you and for defense and man, but we'll we'll

879
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: talk about that later. But defense, are you average all

880
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: these points? You hitting forties in high school? You average

881
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: all these points, you hitting forties in high school, and

882
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: then you get with Cayler Perry and it's like you

883
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: gotta adjust to it. But you adjust where people loving

884
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: the way you play defense, loving the way you finished,

885
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: and they took up way how much good you can

886
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: play on offense. So you get in the league, and

887
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: you get a couple of years, and now you at

888
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: the point where they're looking for you to play offense

889
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: and looking for you to do your thing. How was

890
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: that transition for you defense to be like, man, I

891
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: can really get a few buckets outside of these dunks

892
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: if y'all go to me.

893
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: Ah.

894
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: I think it came from you know, Spoe not micromanaging

895
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 3: my shots.

896
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 2: And we had that conversation.

897
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 3: I feel like it was my second the end of

898
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 3: my second year, going to my third year, it was

899
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: where it really started to like click, and he was like,

900
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 3: all right, I can trust this kid, because it'd be

901
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: sometimes I'll check in the middle of the third and

902
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 3: I'll play the whole fourth like close games, it didn't matter.

903
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: I was in the whole fourth. So like he started

904
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: to trust me because he knew one thing I was

905
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: going to always do, Like I'm always gonna play hard,

906
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: like like that's that's a switch, Like that's that's always

907
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: gonna happen the defensive side. I always think like my

908
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 3: defense is better than anybody's offense. That's how I always start.

909
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: So when it came to getting buckets. It was like

910
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 3: all right, like, you know, I do something good on

911
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: defense and I try some ship.

912
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: Yeah I get a yeah yeah. So like uh it was.

913
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: It was one of those things where I was growing,

914
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: but every once in a while, I'd be like, man,

915
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: let me try this first quarter, let me let me,

916
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 3: let me see how this's going.

917
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: And I try, I make it.

918
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: I look at him, don't he don't give me no

919
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 3: facial expression at that point.

920
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 2: It was just it just kept building from there. Yeah.

921
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 1: I love when a defender, you'd be labeled as a defender,

922
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: and then you get transitioning to the offense where an organization,

923
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: a coach kind.

924
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: Of believe you get that package.

925
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: Now you going to that sideline and they' finna run

926
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: this play for you. And you know what I'm time,

927
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: I was a lot of them plays, you coming out

928
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: running it for you instead of running it for somebody else.

929
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 1: You see the transition from d Wade or somebody who's

930
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: the man. They was getting all the players, so now

931
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: they're giving you all the plays.

932
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: Han't d Wade on the team made it easier because

933
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: I was in the second unit with d Wade and

934
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: you know, he used to tell me young fella, just roll.

935
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get you up and just roll. And we

936
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: built a great connection. So my next year coming in,

937
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 3: he was like, man, you're gonna ever like fourteen eight

938
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 3: and I was like, nah, nah, try no, no, no, no, nah,

939
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 3: I'm sixteen ten and five. I'm gonna be an All

940
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: Star off that. And he was like, well, see, so

941
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: my whole that whole third year sixteen ten and five

942
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: and I got to be an All Star. You know,

943
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 3: me and d Wade talk about it now, and it

944
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: was one of those moments. So I was like, no,

945
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 3: Like I was like.

946
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: We was at the All Star Game, your first All

947
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: Star and you seeing me on the.

948
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 2: Court with Myra. Had my braids out that day.

949
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 4: But I don't even know what just happened this whole

950
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: last question. Every since you tried me about the I

951
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 4: missed everything because.

952
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: You ain't a defender. That's that's everybody know. You know

953
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: we're gonna settle this.

954
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: I bet you we're gonna see who got the most

955
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 4: charges and steals and all that.

956
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: That's it. Charge you got wave more black than you

957
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: get charge. I got charges, hold on, but I got

958
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: waved out now because you ain't play over here in

959
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: the heat.

960
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 4: So you don't even really understand your defense and means

961
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: let me let me learn from something real defense.

962
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: Defense, time out, time out, time out.

963
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 4: This is this is just a little standard here. They

964
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: know what they do around when they talk about this.

965
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 4: Our charge is important.

966
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's important. I'll tell you that. But you

967
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: don't do them. You don't take them because I get

968
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: him on the glass. Now I'm gonna win sh your wife. No,

969
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: you know I'm listening.

970
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: I'm getting a turnover and I'm getting a foul on

971
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 4: that player if.

972
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: You hurry up and get your feet outside of the circle.

973
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: But I don't even gotta do all that when I

974
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: meet you.

975
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: Ain't gotta hrb and do nothing if you playing good defense.

976
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: Right, Hey, he meet him up on, he meet him

977
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: up top way more than he meet him down.

978
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: Loads Like, yeah, you take a charge here and that.

979
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 5: Because you just as an athletic guy like me and himself,

980
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 5: you get him on the glass. Now, you short little

981
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 5: guys shoot threes, y'all don't really be down.

982
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: There with the big folks. But it's like that's another story.

983
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: You're trying to offend me.

984
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna get highly offended like you're trying to

985
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 4: do because it's ridiculous the things you're saying.

986
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 2: It's not true. I had a question, though, you interrupted

987
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: my question because you're not.

988
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 4: Get to get to my point. You did your fish

989
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 4: I didn't get to try and do my heat thing.

990
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 4: You try to cut me off because you saw the point.

991
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

992
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 4: This is the maturity ILL deal with on a daily basis.

993
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: All Star games. Since you missed an All Star game

994
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: to being there with you know, we all dream of

995
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: making the All Star Game. Now you you pick with

996
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: the best of the best. Boy a lot of guys

997
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: that you was just looking a couple of years ago

998
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: looking at going to the All Star Game coming up

999
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: seeing and having posters on your wall. Now you're part

1000
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: of this whole festivity in Chicago. Well it was crazy, crazy,

1001
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: Like I loved it down there. That was one of

1002
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: the best All Star game.

1003
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: How was that for you? Uh? And your mom? Yeah?

1004
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fact that my mom just get to be

1005
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: there all time great? But uh, it was a lot

1006
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 3: of first time All Stars in that All Star Game.

1007
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 3: So like even looking at a couple of my homeboy

1008
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 3: was All Stars.

1009
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: So like JT.

1010
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: I had Donovan and UH and my teammate Jimmy, so

1011
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: like it was like like dudes, was like like I

1012
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 3: knew a couple of them, and when you first get

1013
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 3: to the All Star Game, it's like damn, like no,

1014
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: I'm really, I'm really in the All Star Game. Like

1015
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: it took me like a couple like lacing up my

1016
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: sneakers and like really like how touching the float?

1017
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: How was it when you.

1018
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 4: Walked in that locker room though you see I know

1019
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 4: how to be set up, all of them going around,

1020
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 4: y'all got the bags and everything. You see out of

1021
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 4: Bio sitting at thirteen and it's like what is that feeling?

1022
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: Like, Uh, I don't know how to describe that moment.

1023
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, it's crazy.

1024
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: Because you got because when you look on the TV

1025
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 3: and like they say you're an All Star, it's like

1026
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 3: all right, like damn.

1027
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 2: Like.

1028
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 3: I like the way this feels like these All Stars

1029
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: need to keep you keep coming around every year. And uh,

1030
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 3: that's how I think about it, Like I want to

1031
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 3: be an All Star every year, Like I want to

1032
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 3: get that feeling every year. You know, open up them

1033
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 3: doors and I see my locker and then uh it's

1034
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: all joking about like our teams and what's going on,

1035
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 3: and then you get to go out there and have fun.

1036
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 2: The great ones take steps.

1037
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: You know, you get drafted, then you make your All

1038
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: Star team, and then you get the opportunity and you

1039
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: get an invite to play in the USA team.

1040
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: And now only you playing the USA team. This is

1041
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: the best of the best.

1042
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: Now you got the ran and you're playing with these guys,

1043
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: and you started every single game from the ups and

1044
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: the downs.

1045
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: This ain't high school, this ain't under seventeens. You know

1046
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1047
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: Boy, I was that to, you know, play with the

1048
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: USA team and you know, be on the court with

1049
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: like the Durance and the Lilards and Draymond and being

1050
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: one of them guys that man, you you coming in,

1051
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: you start, You ain't one of the guys that come

1052
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: off the bench. You starting every game and y'all winning it,

1053
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: bringing it home that it was.

1054
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 3: It was a dope moment because I had got cut

1055
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: the year before. Yeah, the year before I got cut,

1056
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 3: So in my mind, I'm feeling like I'm supposed to

1057
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 3: be on the team. So uh so that's when I

1058
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: had my All Star year and everybody think it was

1059
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 3: just you know, just surrounded that I got cut. That's

1060
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: why I was na. It was just like now whoever

1061
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 3: was on the team was getting these handouts. That's what

1062
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: it was like, whoever was on the team I was.

1063
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: I was taking names, I was crossing the list, you know, wiping,

1064
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: wiping that, check that box. So of course, like when

1065
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 3: we play the Spurs, it was always personal because at

1066
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: that time, you know, coach GP was uh he was

1067
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 3: he was the coach for the Fever team. So it

1068
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 3: was always smoked theare like he cut you.

1069
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt like he cut me.

1070
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 3: So fast forward to being in the Olympics, it was

1071
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 3: just looking around like no, like I'm I'm here, like

1072
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: you know, so there's moments where you just look at

1073
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 3: a lot of things.

1074
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: You looking right, You're like damn kad dang.

1075
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 3: Start looking around, you start listening to names, and like

1076
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 3: really thinking about the accolades and like who you in

1077
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,959
Speaker 3: the room with. So being able to be a part

1078
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 3: of that it just put a chip on my shoulder

1079
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 3: like like now you hear like you gotta hold that standard,

1080
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 3: Like we can't walk out with no bronze.

1081
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: How was it like the starting off the little versity y'all?

1082
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: Had when you know how we in the world today

1083
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: that the slightest touch of anything that they feel wrong,

1084
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: they gonna talk about it like it's the biggest thing.

1085
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: And just because y'all lost a few preseason games, they

1086
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: oh yeah.

1087
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 2: The exhibition, Yeah, they was on us. But the thing

1088
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: was how we thought about it.

1089
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 3: We was like dog, like, we're together for two and

1090
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 3: a half, have three weeks at this point, Like all

1091
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 3: these other countries be together for like two years, two

1092
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 3: three years, like half a decade. So like they they

1093
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: leave the USA and go straight over there and you know,

1094
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 3: be hooping what they hooping like they never left. So

1095
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 3: for us, we just had to get you know, acclimated

1096
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 3: to each other, like, uh it was one of those

1097
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 3: things where we just had to get comfortable, like everybody

1098
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 3: establishing the role, and you know, we got a sacrifice

1099
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 3: and after that, that's when it was just smooth Salem

1100
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 3: because like at that point when you get out there,

1101
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: first thing in your mind is like I'm gonna play

1102
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 3: my game, Like that's all I know.

1103
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get out here and do my thing.

1104
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: And uh so we had to all sacrifice to that

1105
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: standpoint to make it work.

1106
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 2: When y'all finally got the gold.

1107
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: Now it's this champagne popping time and you know the

1108
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: stuff you see on TV. The guys get the American

1109
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: flag and they stand on the podium and they dip

1110
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: in their head to get the gold medal.

1111
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: Like, how was all left for you? Because of all of.

1112
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 3: The bashing and all that, and like the social media

1113
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: and like the platforms going at us because we lost

1114
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: against France, it was more so like a a shut

1115
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: up thing for real. That's how we felt about the

1116
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 3: Yeah we're still running this because you know, everybody'saying, you know.

1117
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: The rest of the world is catching up.

1118
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 3: You know, the skillers, skill iss, this talent is that.

1119
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 2: And then you had our own people talking about something.

1120
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: You know, we don't want y'all wearing it because y'all

1121
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 3: ain't representing us how we supposed to.

1122
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 2: So like we took this disrespect.

1123
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 3: And uh that point on, like when we got the gold,

1124
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 3: it was kind of like all right, now we're back

1125
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 3: in order, Like everybody can calm down, chill out, and yeah,

1126
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 3: like we're.

1127
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: Good, We're good here.

1128
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: What was the feeling like just bringing it home to

1129
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: your mom after all the stuff, the journey and y'all

1130
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: and been through together. I was really old metal all

1131
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: to your.

1132
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 3: Listen here, man, Like we was ready to go home

1133
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 3: because it was different and not Olympics because we didn't

1134
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 3: have like we didn't get to we didn't get to

1135
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 3: see other sports.

1136
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: We didn't get the move around. We didn't get to

1137
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 2: move around. So we cooped up in the hotel.

1138
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 3: The hotel to practice practice back to the games and

1139
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 3: games back that's it. Like there was no like walking

1140
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 3: outside getting fresh air. It was you go upstairs to

1141
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 3: the lounge. Yeah, get you some chips, watch some TV.

1142
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: I don't know how many Knights we played, you know,

1143
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 3: and they shake shock. We had to make the best

1144
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 3: out of it. But when it was over, motherfuckers was

1145
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 3: ready to go home, like we missed everybody missing the

1146
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 3: little stuff about like like man, you know I miss

1147
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 3: you know, just having just being able to go lay

1148
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 3: in my bed right. You just get like it's just

1149
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 3: one of those things where like you start missing the

1150
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 3: little stuff in America store, Man, you could walk outside.

1151
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 4: I'm me how I felt for you to, like, like

1152
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 4: we said, you want the gold medal, you did all

1153
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 4: that you get to bring you home. But when you

1154
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 4: get to really get your USA Olympic banner put up

1155
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 4: in the arena and you go up there with Tim Bud,

1156
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 4: with Zoe, with d Wade, and you know, how did

1157
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 4: that feel?

1158
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: That's that's not going nowhere, my boy? Like you like

1159
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: how that feel?

1160
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 4: Like I know, I know eventually you want to add

1161
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 4: the real thing up there, but just to have that

1162
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 4: this early on, like, how did that feel?

1163
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: Surreal?

1164
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 3: I will say, man, surreal moment just because, like like

1165
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 3: I always say, coming from where I come from, nobody

1166
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 3: expected that. But I knew the whole time in the Olympics,

1167
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 3: like we win this, I get me a banner.

1168
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: Like like I did, ye, I see the one. They

1169
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: respect this my team, like we gotta do. Yeah, we

1170
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 2: gotta do.

1171
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 3: It's like respect on Like you know, it was one

1172
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 3: of those things I was just like I was grateful for.

1173
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 3: It was an incredible moment just because like every now

1174
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: like when I go into arena, I get to look

1175
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: up and my name always gonna be up there.

1176
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 2: That's how I want it to be and that's my

1177
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: goal for it.

1178
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 4: So tell me that you won the gold medal on

1179
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 4: a big boy dream Olympic team.

1180
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?

1181
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 4: You've been an All Star, you signed one hundred and

1182
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 4: sixty three million dollar contract, and we're sitting at a.

1183
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: Private location, a real, real, real.

1184
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 4: Nice, beautiful a state that's called a state property or something.

1185
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 4: But when I say seventy six Church Lane, could you

1186
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 4: have ever even uttered a dream that you could be

1187
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 4: doing what you're doing now coming from where you came from? Now,

1188
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 4: what does seventy six Church Lane mean to you?

1189
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 3: I couldn't because you know, there was no person that

1190
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: was like before me to look up to. At that point,

1191
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 3: you know, I was I was doing something I didn't

1192
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 3: even realize I was doing, like just you know, paving

1193
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 3: the way for like kids in my community, in my

1194
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: neighborhood and in my town to be like, na, we

1195
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 3: can make it out. And you know, I'm just doing

1196
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 3: this all the strength of it. I just love basketball.

1197
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 3: So getting to that point looking at it now, nah,

1198
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 3: I didn't think I'd be doing a lot of this.

1199
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: So I'm doing for real.

1200
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 3: But it was just looking at games on ESPN, TNT

1201
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 3: every night and being like I want to be a

1202
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: part of that, Like like that looked fun. Playing in

1203
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 3: Christmas games, you know, going to the finals, like that

1204
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 3: look fun, Like I like being a part of that,

1205
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 3: Like that's history. So being a part of it and

1206
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 3: looking at it, you know, I was like, man, I'm

1207
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 3: grateful to be one of the ones to like really

1208
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: show kids like you can make it out of that

1209
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 3: like that environment, that type of that type of way

1210
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 3: of living.

1211
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: But that trailer got so much meaning to me.

1212
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 3: Man, It's it's got so much history in it, you know,

1213
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 3: just because it was always me and my mom and

1214
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 3: I learned a lot by being in it. Like you know,

1215
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 3: I learned, I learned how to be on time. I

1216
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 3: learned how to be up early. I learned how to

1217
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 3: you know, eat on my own right because my mom

1218
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 3: had to go to work every day, she won't always

1219
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 3: there to like feed me. I had to figure it

1220
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: out now if it was either using the microwavesility taught

1221
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 3: me responsibility and just how to like live and grow

1222
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 3: as a man.

1223
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: That's why it's got so much meaning in it.

1224
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 4: It may be me tell me how how like the

1225
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 4: experience you just talked about it just being you and

1226
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 4: your mom, and how how y'all bind it and did

1227
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 4: that lead you to you know, established damn foundation that

1228
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 4: you found it for, you know, for single mothers.

1229
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 3: It did, because you know, my mom taught me everything

1230
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 3: from you know, how to fold clothes, to make sure

1231
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 3: like I'm like I'm making my bed every morning, Like

1232
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 3: it was just it was just all those those little

1233
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 3: habits that I still got to this day that she's

1234
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 3: taught me when I was younger. Gave me structure, It

1235
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 3: gave me like a template to follow. She's one of

1236
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 3: those people. She once it sat like that, she's not changing,

1237
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 3: like she's one of those people. She's detailed oriented, Like

1238
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 3: I really appreciate my mom for it. She's a she's

1239
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 3: my pride and enjoy I always said every time I

1240
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 3: get on the mic and somebody asked me about her,

1241
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 3: it's because she taught me how to get through the

1242
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: struggle and make it look.

1243
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: Easy like she was hard work. Taught you how to

1244
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: be with no complaints.

1245
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 3: No complaints, like my mom didn't. My mom walked to

1246
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 3: work every day, no complaints, come back home, hands full

1247
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 3: of groceries, walking up the street. So that's how I

1248
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 3: kind of like I built that drive and that competitive

1249
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 3: nature because like I didn't want my mom to be

1250
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 3: in that no more.

1251
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: Who was some of the guys that you looked up

1252
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: to and you patting your game after and uh, you

1253
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: just wanted to be like when you came up.

1254
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: I grew up a Kobe fan.

1255
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 3: Like that was the first dude like I've seen on TV.

1256
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 3: I was like, not like he different and that was

1257
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 3: that was that was the eight Kobe. Yeah. But from

1258
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 3: then on it was like I watched KG. I watched

1259
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 3: themar Oldham. That's what I really wanted to be, Like, yeah,

1260
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 3: I wanted to be like yeah.

1261
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 2: So it was just because he was like, yeah, it

1262
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: was so versatile.

1263
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 3: And he had that that that swagger.

1264
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 6: To him, like when he he had all that, Like

1265
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 6: he had that at six six, So like looking at

1266
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 6: it now, I was like, like I wanted to really

1267
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 6: be like lamar Oldham.

1268
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 2: Uh you know him KG.

1269
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 3: I just I loved KG because of the passion, you know,

1270
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 3: the dog that he had.

1271
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I liked to know. So it's mainly

1272
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: them three. This is a question that we all can

1273
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: sit here and relate to.

1274
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 4: Me and him been through it before, long long a long,

1275
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 4: long long time ago, a long time ago to be

1276
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 4: kids that you know, we didn't grow up you know

1277
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 4: rich or any of that and not come from a

1278
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 4: lot to get to the point where you get that

1279
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 4: phone call, whether it's from your agent or whoever, and

1280
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 4: they say, Yo, MJ want you to be on Jordan brand.

1281
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 4: Now I know, I ain't never on a pair of

1282
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 4: Jay's in my life until I had got our au

1283
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 4: team got good enough to where we was getting free.

1284
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 2: Shoots from Nike.

1285
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 4: So knowing how you grew up less fortunately just like

1286
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 4: us to get that call and know you about to

1287
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 4: be on the brand when you already previously was wearing

1288
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 4: some other stuff and you probably saw different people doing

1289
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 4: Like what was that feeling to know you was about

1290
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 4: to be part of the family.

1291
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 3: Being part of the family when I was growing up,

1292
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 3: Mellow was a big part of that.

1293
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: You heard Jordan brand.

1294
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 3: It was like you you heard Mellow right, So I

1295
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 3: was like, damn, you know, I get the part of

1296
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 3: be your team like no Mellow up there?

1297
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: You know.

1298
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 3: Then you got first of all you Michael Jordan himself.

1299
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 3: It's like, yo, I want you to be a type

1300
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 3: part of my team. You know you looking from like

1301
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 3: the history and ship like that.

1302
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 2: He ain't you know my name club?

1303
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 3: So like looking at it, it was like, nah, like it's

1304
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 3: something that like I do that he fuck with like right,

1305
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the dog like, I don't

1306
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 3: know if it's the points. I don't know what it is,

1307
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 3: but you know it's something like he just fuck with.

1308
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's competitive nature, but being one

1309
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 3: of those people that like they want you instead of like,

1310
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 3: you know, I always want Jordan, you know, I want

1311
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 3: to be a part of Jordan, like for him to

1312
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 3: be like na, like we want you to be a

1313
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 3: part of Jordan. Like he was one of those things

1314
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 3: where I was like, all right, I'm doing good ship

1315
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 3: in life, right, Like I'm doing some good ship in life.

1316
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 3: But a credible brand, you know, shout out him Jay,

1317
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 3: it's a good brand for like you yourself.

1318
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I don't got so many j's. Tell me

1319
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 2: about that.

1320
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 4: When you got your first first special delivery, how overwhelmed

1321
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 4: were you?

1322
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: Like? How many was it? About fifteen boxes? And the

1323
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 2: man freshness? Did you get a doctor about fifteen.

1324
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 3: Twenty first first ship and was like I give it

1325
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 3: like twenty five twenty five, and you know, coming flavors,

1326
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 3: flavors like taking it so like growing up.

1327
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 2: Like my mom didn't have enough money like buy Jeordans

1328
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 2: and stuff like that.

1329
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 3: So now it's like the fact that like she can

1330
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 3: she can go to like a dinner like you know,

1331
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 3: like jordan Swists and customs Jordan's wan. Yeah, Like it's

1332
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 3: just it's one of those things I could take care

1333
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 3: of our people or something like we've been trying to get.

1334
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: Our whole lives for like me and my homeboys.

1335
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 3: I when we was younger, we used to try to

1336
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 3: order like Jordan's out of like an eastpapers. So being

1337
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 3: able now like you the plug, Yeah, a new pair

1338
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 3: of Jordan's come out, like all we all get these,

1339
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: don't I don't worry about well before the rest of

1340
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 3: the world, I don't even worry about Christmas were good.

1341
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: I know what.

1342
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 4: I want to go back to the All Star Game

1343
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 4: and for you, you are like he said you you

1344
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 4: you you're a big man, but like a skilled big man.

1345
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 4: I'll say, like, how was it for you to go out?

1346
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 4: And should I say how proud was Coach Octavio of

1347
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 4: you winning the skills Challenge because that's my guy, coach. Oh,

1348
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 4: when I got here, I would spend thirty to forty

1349
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 4: five minutes working on.

1350
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm not even a ball handler you know this. Yeah,

1351
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 2: see what I'm just I'm agreeing with you.

1352
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 4: But you know how all this on fire, you dripping sweat,

1353
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 4: like you didn't get a real workout.

1354
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 2: So for you to go win the skills.

1355
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 4: Competition, how proud if they were you for doing that,

1356
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 4: And how proud are you were for yourself?

1357
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 3: I mean for me, it was it was personal because

1358
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 3: everybody bet that I was gone last. Yeah, like on

1359
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 3: the Bendness it was like I was last to win.

1360
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at it like all right, like whatever.

1361
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 3: So I go and do you know they got the

1362
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 3: little the little uh the little maize where you go

1363
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 3: through yeah, abstacle, obstacle course, whatever it's called. And I

1364
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 3: only went through it twice, Like I got there, like

1365
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 3: I was in there for maybe like fifteen minutes. I

1366
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 3: was talking to my homeboy, my manager. I went through

1367
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 3: it twice. I said, Bro, I'm a win, Like this

1368
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 3: this shit easy, Like I'm a win. So the whole

1369
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 3: time I go through it, it just feels like I'm

1370
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 3: going through like the Maids when I'm going through it

1371
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 3: and uh in practice. So when we get to the championship,

1372
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, I'm gonna win this, like I done,

1373
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 3: got loosen now and I got the edge off because

1374
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 3: the first one is like, man, you got the people

1375
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 3: looking at you and you out here by yourself, and

1376
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 3: the first thing everybody talk about is like the passing part,

1377
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 3: like you gotta get it through the whole.

1378
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: Uh.

1379
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 3: But once I went through it, I was like, man, this,

1380
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 3: I'm cool, Like I got this. It was great because

1381
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 3: Coach O, everybody called me like they was proud of me,

1382
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 3: and uh. It was one of those moments. So I

1383
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 3: was like, nah, like yeah, talk my ship, talk my ship.

1384
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 3: That's how I felt because I was just picked last.

1385
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 3: And so I was like, man, I hope everybody who

1386
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 3: picked me to win, like, I hope y'all go to

1387
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 3: you know, Ruth, Chris, get you some good deed because

1388
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 3: I'm going, Uh, I got the trophy and uh, I'm

1389
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 3: gonna kick back and uh, you know, think about what

1390
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:47,479
Speaker 3: I just did.

1391
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 2: So it was one of those moments.

1392
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 3: I was just proud of myself and everybody else is

1393
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 3: proud of me too.

1394
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 4: Was that one those times like, well, you go back

1395
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 4: to when you grew up, because I remember whenning you

1396
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 4: can't talk about it. I remember winning three point contest

1397
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 4: and I was that weekend. You know what I'm saying.

1398
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: And when you know what I'm saying, you know you

1399
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 2: get that little moment on the podium.

1400
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 4: I got Cheryl Miller was the person that you know,

1401
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 4: so it was like you get to stand there.

1402
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 2: I felt like that was my little MJ moment.

1403
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 4: They wanted to drunk contest or if I watched Craig

1404
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,959
Speaker 4: Hodges win a three point contest, that was my little

1405
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 4: joint right there.

1406
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. What they was like, you

1407
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 2: I remember them, I saw, I remember them. Asked you.

1408
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 4: They were like, yeah, they want to know, dude, do

1409
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 4: you want to have them keep the trophy and engraved?

1410
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: This is going with me on the plane to the

1411
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 2: house and.

1412
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 4: I'll grave, but I want to thank you. Nobody ain't

1413
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 4: getting this with me, Like well, my sister, my sister

1414
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,440
Speaker 4: all look at full accountability.

1415
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 2: My sister has the trophy. It's like it's both of

1416
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: ours she's keeping in her house.

1417
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: Who are your favorite five players? Like favorite, like your

1418
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,839
Speaker 1: favorite five of the NBA history? Who are your favorite

1419
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: five that you always like to look at, Not the

1420
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: best five, but just your favorite.

1421
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 3: My favorite five. Man, I'm gonna have to say cold

1422
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 3: about to say, m j uh, I gotta put Penny

1423
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 3: hard away. And I loved what I love watching. I

1424
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 3: was I love watching, Uh let me see and then.

1425
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 2: T Mac T Max too man.

1426
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 3: T Mac was a mom started on the head he

1427
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 3: used to give us. Yeah, I got one left and

1428
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 3: uh and then.

1429
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 2: KDK not easy that was that was easy for you.

1430
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 2: But the interesting thing, the thing I find interesting.

1431
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 4: It was no no centers and ladies and gentlemen.

1432
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 2: This this, this man is a wing play. He's the camouflages.

1433
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: Just hear that. Listen game big man, give off a listener.

1434
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 3: Man, that's just all tell me nothing like look at

1435
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 3: I mean you said favorite five. That's the favorite five.

1436
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 3: I just like, you know, just watching it from like

1437
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 3: a skill standpoint, like hands damn, like you can't do

1438
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 3: nothing with it.

1439
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 4: I know what I want to ask you, like before

1440
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 4: we get up out of here, mine and his I

1441
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 4: was about to say mine, but he's yours too, our o,

1442
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 4: g Juwan Howard. I know how he pulled into you

1443
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 4: and how he was here when you first got here.

1444
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 4: Tell me about the impact, because that's that's my Man's there.

1445
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 4: Like when I say when we were coming up Juwan

1446
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 4: and Mike Finley. Those were the pictures, pictures for perfection,

1447
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 4: like Max dudes, cool dudes from the city, like know

1448
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 4: how to handle their business, get your community.

1449
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 2: We call him Mike Loud. It wasn't either one of

1450
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: the markets. They were both. They're going to show up

1451
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 2: in something foreign that you did it just rare.

1452
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 4: It ain't gonna be like a regular little rarian someday

1453
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 4: like they was. They was like, just tell me about

1454
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 4: how my O g got you. Right before he got

1455
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 4: up out of here, the man young boys.

1456
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 3: Right, I ain't gonna lie. Was sick when he left.

1457
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. That was my Uh use your work.

1458
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember talking to him when I was scouting.

1459
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 4: I used to talk to him to find out what's that.

1460
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 4: And he the one that was not cute like he

1461
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 4: wanted them.

1462
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 3: He was one of those people on the roster that

1463
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,560
Speaker 3: really like fair confidence in me during like games practice,

1464
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 3: like you know, it was a couple of times like

1465
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 3: I think about shooting in our passion and here he'll

1466
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 3: pull me to side.

1467
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 2: Man, what the fuck are you doing? Man, we're trying

1468
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 2: to get paid, like we trying to make history. And uh.

1469
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 3: He was just one of those people that always just

1470
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 3: feel that confidence and to me off the court, go

1471
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 3: to dinner. He take me to some random ass fall

1472
01:11:58,320 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 3: star ship like.

1473
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 2: And I'm in there like yo.

1474
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 3: Like he was the first person that really got me

1475
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 3: to try sushi because in my mind I was like, man,

1476
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 3: that's raw fish.

1477
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 2: I'm cool.

1478
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 3: Like like I call him coach seventeen. I said, seventeen,

1479
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 3: I'm cool, Like that's raw fish. He's like, nah, thirteen,

1480
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 3: you gotta try it. So he took me there. So

1481
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 3: now I eat sushi a little bit, but I make

1482
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 3: sure it's like cook like cook shrimp like.

1483
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not doing I'm cook shrimp like I'm not.

1484
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: Let me get that sushi. Let me get that shrimp

1485
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 2: tampio wrong, yeah, strip tampio roll. I'm there. I'm near

1486
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 2: with it. As as far as sushi I go, I'm not. Oh,

1487
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 2: Yell will tell you nothing, none of that, you know,

1488
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 2: I feel. So he just man, that's it.

1489
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 3: So just being able to just be with seventeen for

1490
01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 3: those like two and a half years, man, and it.

1491
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: Was just he's still checking that.

1492
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 3: Uh every every once in a while, Man, I call

1493
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 3: him on the phone just to hear, Man, you know

1494
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 3: you still he still always say, you know, Cargo, don't never.

1495
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 2: Forget that, Like what do he say? What he saying?

1496
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 4: Say thing loud for the people in the back in

1497
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 4: front of from Chicago say that. Then you know what

1498
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 4: I'm saying, big o G.

1499
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 2: It's another subject that you ain't part of this.

1500
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: So since you've been in the league, Now, who is

1501
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: your favorite dunk on that you don had since you

1502
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: didn't been in the league.

1503
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 4: It's I ain't never dunk on. Nobody's what you saying.

1504
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 4: You don't throw a lot of people a lot of time.

1505
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: You don't don't couple of point us I'm talking about,

1506
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 1: you know, big man and stuff like who.

1507
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 2: I dunk you before?

1508
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 1: When you yeah, okay, uh back to the dunkers. Who

1509
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 1: who you? Who you dunk on? Your favorite dunkong favorite

1510
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: dunko on?

1511
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. I don't call a lot of bodies around bodies.

1512
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 3: I would say against the Spurs, uh, I'm let you

1513
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 3: it was either Spurs Indiana I called a pocket. It

1514
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 3: was like the you know, like the Mari stat dog

1515
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 3: like you know Steve Nash throw it in the pocket

1516
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 3: and it's two feet in his lift off like it

1517
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 3: was one of those and Uh, what was it? It

1518
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 3: was in like the third quarter. It's like a moment.

1519
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 3: It was last year moment shift going through it in

1520
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 3: the pocket and it was like, all right, it's time

1521
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 3: to take off this one time launch bad. And I

1522
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 3: feel like that was my favorite dunk because at the

1523
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 3: midst of it, I didn't know it went in until

1524
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 3: they took.

1525
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 4: The ball out. Yeah, yeah, you're not quite sure everything

1526
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 4: that happened right there. My favorite question I like to ask,

1527
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 4: since you know what I'm saying, you got a fresh

1528
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 4: new one sixty three. You know what I'm saying, it's

1529
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 4: a little different like when you got the bag, the

1530
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 4: big bag like you got now. I don't want to

1531
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 4: hear about you know. I know you took care of mom, dude.

1532
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 4: That's that things understood do not need to be talked about.

1533
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 4: We know mom, dude is great. I won't know what

1534
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 4: what Bam bam did to treat yourself. Not the house, but.

1535
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: Not no house. Everybody get to treat yourself. I don't

1536
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 1: be selfish on this one.

1537
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 3: Uh be selfish. Shame cars with something. I just wanted

1538
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 3: to rent a yacht, remember wanted Yeah, I just wanted

1539
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 3: to I just wanted to be be able to have

1540
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 3: the fact that, like, nah, I rented me a yacht

1541
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 3: on this water, were all gonna come kicking on the

1542
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 3: water for like eight hours. Let's let's do that. Yeah boys, Yeah,

1543
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 3: I just had to. I had to get that experience

1544
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 3: because yacht club. Now, man, being being in Miami, you

1545
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 3: got all this water here and everybody.

1546
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 2: I'm seeing everybody on their boats just then and all

1547
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: that stuff. Man, I got that one.

1548
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 3: Sixtys said, Man, I'm going we were in the boat.

1549
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 3: We were in the yacht like we're all gonna kick

1550
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 3: it for it out.

1551
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 2: Was that your first time on the boat. Nah, but

1552
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 2: it's my first time on the yacht. Yeah, y'all got

1553
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 2: rooms and stuff. Yeah, I was acting like a mini

1554
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 2: house on woman.

1555
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, start bench cut you know, start one. You got

1556
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: bench one, you gotta cut one. Duncan as in Timothy

1557
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 1: tim Duncan, kg Rashee Wallace. Oh yeah, start one. You

1558
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: got a bench one, you got cut one.

1559
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 3: So if I had to start one, that was the

1560
01:16:58,960 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 3: bad stuff.

1561
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 2: A few says repeating the question, You're good, you good,

1562
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna start tempt.

1563
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 3: I got I'm a bench k I'm a bench KD

1564
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 3: I mean k KG and I gotta cut cut. She

1565
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 3: she my man though, she my man. That's my man,

1566
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 3: one hundred grand I call him all the time.

1567
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 2: But let me just say that I love speaking on She.

1568
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1569
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 4: I love seeing him with Memphis right now and how

1570
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 4: he be getting them boys so hyped. That is the

1571
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 4: she I know, see, I love and I'm glad that

1572
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 4: he will never change, never stop being she.

1573
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 2: He's so hyped.

1574
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 3: That's one thing I like I say about She. Like

1575
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 3: since I met him from my senior year, he's been

1576
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 3: the same same.

1577
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 2: What up, young boy? What up, young boy? How you doing?

1578
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 2: And then what up? She are you? Like you left? Man?

1579
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 2: You know I'm out here. You know, I'm getting my

1580
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 2: fuckers his work still and I'm still doing it.

1581
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like he's just always on team Dog, and

1582
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 3: it's just like I just appreciate him for it because

1583
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 3: he ain't never changed, like he always been the same.

1584
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: That's how you know the real from the phases I

1585
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 2: heard that.

1586
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: You get in the league, and you know you got

1587
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 1: to prove yourself to the you know, not to the coaches,

1588
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: to the other players. You always want your peers to

1589
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: see your peers, not some of the guys and you

1590
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: see the teams change, They're like, man, they really respect

1591
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: you and your game and what you bring to the

1592
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 1: table for your team.

1593
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: Like how is that feeling to.

1594
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: You know, have some of them guys that man you

1595
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: looked up to that that that's the man or you

1596
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: know a lot of guys that you play against at

1597
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: the Superstars in this league respecting your game and the

1598
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: way you carry yourself and do your thing.

1599
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 2: Uh.

1600
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 3: One moment I had was uh was Ai. I was

1601
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 3: walking out from halftime at the All Star game. He

1602
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 3: Ai pulled me aside. First of all, I'm thinking, I'm thinking, A,

1603
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 3: I don't know who, like I'm just one of them

1604
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 3: ran but like he you know, put me inside, Hey,

1605
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 3: young bull, like you a motherfucker, Like you're a motherfucker,

1606
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 3: Like I fuck with you, fuck with your game, with

1607
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 3: your attitude, I fuck with the mentality.

1608
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 2: And uh. From that point, I was like, man, I

1609
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: was a dog in this league, like like.

1610
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 3: That's like the utmost respect, like one of the like

1611
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 3: the top dogs him.

1612
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 2: I'll say him.

1613
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 3: Shock, uh y'all and uh, I gotta throw in Juwan

1614
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 3: just just because that's when that's the og.

1615
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a big fraternity, man. And when you

1616
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: when you see guys like you man and just representing

1617
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 1: this this thing we call basketball, man and doing it

1618
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: the right way.

1619
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 2: Man. We just disguised the limit for you. Man. We

1620
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 2: just excited to see you do your thing and appreciate it.

1621
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: Continue to do it because Man, a lot of guys

1622
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: come from where we're from, don't get this opportunity to

1623
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,520
Speaker 1: make this type of money, get these type of accolades

1624
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: and beat legends for the rest of their life, no

1625
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: matter it's if it's a small town or just one

1626
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 1: city for somebody to be like, no, if it was

1627
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: a legend I used to go to this games back

1628
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 1: in the day, that's big. They really do appreciate you,

1629
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: appreciate what you bring to the game. Man, it's all love.

1630
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: Appreciate it man.

1631
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 4: Man Like like you say, we appreciate you, Man, I

1632
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 4: appreciate Watching from afar, you seem to be doing everything

1633
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 4: the right way man. Like how you giving back to

1634
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 4: the community. You took time for us today to chill

1635
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 4: with us, and you about to go give to the

1636
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 4: community today. You're doing a toy drive right like I've

1637
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 4: seen you at Thanksgiving giving our meals and turkeys to

1638
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 4: the community.

1639
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 2: So man, huge salute to you.

1640
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 4: You know, we got to understanding where you come from

1641
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 4: and how you came up, so I know why you

1642
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 4: give back because you know what it feels like to

1643
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 4: be like that.

1644
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 2: But we appreciate you having us out here to the

1645
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 2: Palatio or States and the.

1646
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 4: Private location in Mike Jammy, you know what I'm saying.

1647
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 4: We pulled up on a young boy.

1648
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 2: This was dope. We appreciate you having coming through man.

1649
01:20:53,760 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 2: Sure that's a wrap, man, Knuckleheads.

1650
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,320
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1651
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,600
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1652
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,840
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1653
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,120
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1654
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