1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,080 Speaker 1: Let me tell you where right quick? 2 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go on these guys instagrams and watch 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 2: them when they travel. 4 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 3: It's all they do. 5 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 4: I don't like this guy like this talk. We only talk. 6 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 4: We only friends on talk. We're not friends. Got we 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 4: ain't We're going to it with friends. Something I would 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 4: have asked you something. 9 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: No, he didn't get happened. You're out. 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 4: We're glad to have you, hear New York legendary Nick 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: from Patterson, New Jersey. 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: No noise, serious serve. So how did uh growing up 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: in Jersey? 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: Uh? 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: How did it take you on your basketball journey? 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: I mean it was just it was just, you know, 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: like any other in the city. You go, you know, 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: you got your suburbs, you got your hood. For me, 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: growing up in Patterson, I lived all over, you know, 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: so I was able to connect with, you know, a 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: little bit of everybody. And we had at that time, 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: we had a lot of guys that was actually playing ball, 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: you know, so they was a little older than me 24 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: and all of that. So I was just following suit, 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It's like like anything else. 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: You know, you see the hustlers and they got nice 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 2: calls by the bla. You fall in love with something 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: and you just follow suit. So I was chasing those 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: guys around, you know, just trying to make my mark 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: on things. 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: And you know, once I got. 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: Into like the fifth grade, started traveling, going to camps 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: and ship like that, went out to this camp called 34 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: five Star, destroyed out there, and the next thing, you know, 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: I was the best sixth grade in the country. 36 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: So that yeah, you know, just moving, you know what 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: I mean. 38 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you got you got more of a versatile game, 39 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: like you was a big. 40 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: Man shooting at three. 41 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, how you build again, that's the part like 42 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: one of you was doing that early, like yeah, yeah, 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 4: but that's now it's like every day. 44 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's the parks man. You know, you're 45 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: on the playground and ship and you out there and 46 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: you know you might play one game at one o'clock, 47 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: next game before o'clock if you lose, you know what 48 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: I mean. So you had to go out there and 49 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: be able to do multiple things to you know, sustain. 50 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: So that that's that's from the. 51 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: Park man, just you know, having that and actually God 52 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: blessing me with the talent, you know what I'm saying. 53 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: So just you know, putting it through. I've seen something 54 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago online I think it was. It 55 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: was Swaggy pe beefing with Kenya mart and it made 56 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: me think about you and yeah, I talk about that 57 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: a little bit like that about. 58 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: So I was actually with the Knicks and he was 59 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: with the next they beat us, and when his teammates 60 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: came across and like kind of clothes line. So when 61 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: the clothes line, I was like, I was number on 62 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: one side of my body. 63 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: So I had to go to the hospital I V 64 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: So I was out of the series. So you know, 65 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: it's like anything else that's remember went that deep, Like okay, yeah, 66 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: so that's my livelihood. 67 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: That's sound feed on my phones, you know what I'm saying. 68 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: So me and Jason Collins, we actually had the same agent, 69 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: so he called to check in on me, Bly, So 70 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: I was more pissed off at my teammates for not retaliate, 71 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 72 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: It's like anything else, you know what I mean? 73 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: So right out, so like murder down when they run 74 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: him a wrapper? 75 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah exactly. 76 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: So, so you know, it went back and forth in 77 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: the media, and then he said something that caught my attention, like, 78 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: put us in the room and see who walk out. 79 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: So now that's like some exactly. Yeah, so now it's 80 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: now it's different. So you know, the rest of that 81 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: summer is going on. So I actually caught him in 82 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: the club in New York. He had his cool shoes 83 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: on and he had the church shoes on, the cool shoes, 84 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: so I caught him in. They put us back up 85 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: against the wall. So I'm like, we already know what 86 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: that's you know what I'm saying. So you don't want 87 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: no no, no smoke, no nothing whatever. 88 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: So I just completely let it be. 89 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: So, you know, in the summertime, we do a lot 90 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: of charity events and different events. 91 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: So I had to. 92 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: Go to Dallas like a week later, which where he lives, 93 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I've been flying private 94 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: We've been playing with those things before they started, you know, 95 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: cool going and trying to figure out what you got 96 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: in your bag. So we get out there and you know, 97 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: I kind of embarrassed him in his own town, you know. 98 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: So that's why he constantly keep you know, talking, saying 99 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: and then you know, the rest of my career, every 100 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: time I would get a chance, I would just you know, 101 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: poke at him. 102 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was an incident in 103 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: Phoenix for years. Yeah yeah, yeah, but once once I 104 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: once once I flipped. 105 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: So so to go back to go back to what 106 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: you're saying, like I completely left it alone. 107 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: Like me and this dude with damn their neighbors in California. Okay, 108 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: look at. 109 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: That same same dentist, same grocery store, same gas station, 110 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: same mall. Our wives had kids around the same time, 111 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: same doctor. Like this could have you know what I'm saying, 112 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: Like we could have been got it on you. 113 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying exactly. 114 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: So what he's mad about is one of his teammates, 115 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: good brother from from the city, Julius Hodge. Julius Hodge 116 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: was in the in the weight room one time. I 117 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: caught him right before the game, is about to rough 118 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: him up a little bit. Julius stopped the action, and uh, 119 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: being at Julius stopped the action. 120 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: That's when we had to wear suits in the league. 121 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: So Kmart went and bought them five suits in the TV. 122 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, To try to keep everybody 123 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: from knowing what's going on with the situation, but you know, 124 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 2: for me, it ain't about nothing. And you know for 125 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: him he understands and know exactly what it is. And 126 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: you know, if you got a problem, do something when 127 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: you see me. 128 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: Sucker. You heard that. 129 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 4: Like that, Like we talk about that suit because I 130 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: remember that. That was like the Allen I was in time, 131 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: your time like you had Like yeah, yeah, so they 132 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: was It wasn't a generation, don't know. 133 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. So so you know, shout out to my brother, A. 134 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: I just did this All American game down and so A, 135 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: I took a lot of bullets for a lot of 136 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: cats to be able to do what they doing now, 137 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 138 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: So the tattoos, the corn rolls and all. 139 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: Of that, and it was getting out of control because 140 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: everybody was dressing like a you know what I'm saying. 141 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: So the league was like, yo, we can't have the 142 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: five x T shirts, the jewels, you know what I'm saying, 143 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: cats like that coming in and everybody's making millions, you know, 144 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: millions of dollars. So they wanted to tone it down, 145 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: so they put us in suits. Man, So you know 146 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: it was cool. I mean a lot of us, you know, 147 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: we all grew up going to church like that. So 148 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: it was cool, you know what I mean. But you 149 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: know it was more of a corporate thing to get 150 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: to where the league is at. 151 00:06:59,120 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: Now. 152 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: I feel like league need to put a dress code now, 153 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 4: the way some of these ball players dressing times. 154 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: Nah, man, it's it's cool. 155 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: These it's cool some of them. It's just a style change. 156 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: But but this, but this generation is more about their brand. 157 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: See, we was running around wow, you know what I'm saying, 158 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: Like if we was connected to a certain rap group 159 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: or whatever, you had a little stigma on you and 160 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: ship like that. But now these guys they're all about 161 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: their brand. Like I just came in and said, you know, 162 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: I ain't getting paid for this. 163 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: You know, that's what they on. 164 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 165 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: So it's it's different times. It's different small water high 166 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: at us. Yeah, definitely, holler at us. 167 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: Now, look hold up, hold on, hold on, hold. 168 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: Let me tell the world. 169 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: Let me tell the world right quick, y'all gotta go 170 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: on these guys instagrams and watch them when they travel. 171 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: It's all they do. I don't like this guy talk. 172 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: We only talk. 173 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 4: We only friends on tour. We're not friends. We ain't 174 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 4: going to it with friends talk that. 175 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: Can I ask something? I want to ask you something? 176 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: No, No, I want to ask him because you know 177 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: he's a fucking Lebron fit. 178 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: Anyway, That's what I was. We're gonna get back like that. 179 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't know because that is my favorite play. I'm 180 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: not gonna like you was with Lebron early? Right, did 181 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: you see certain things in it? Like did you see 182 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: all of this in Lebron early? 183 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: But you was with him? Like what did you see it? 184 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: When he first came in the league. You gotta remember 185 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: the league was physical. It was still physical. It was 186 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: fading out to this new era. So I mean you 187 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 2: could go back and look at it. He had some struggles, right. 188 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: I think he ran up against that Detroit Piston's team. 189 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: I'm not really sure. Orlando gave him a little yeah yeah, 190 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: and I remember that. 191 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 192 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 2: So he had to go through you know, his his 193 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: grown spurs to get to you know, where he's at. 194 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 195 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: So definitely, man, But I mean everybody knew that he 196 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: was talented. He benefited off of all the things that 197 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: you know, myself, Kobe Jermaine o'nail guys like that, you know, 198 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: started before him from the high school side of things 199 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: going coming up. So but we all knew he was talented. 200 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: I mean obviously you got to get in and and 201 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: you know, put your plant down and make your mark. 202 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: And he definitely did that, definitely definitely. 203 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: So how how was he playing on the Calves? 204 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: I didn't. I never played with the Calves. I played 205 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: against him. Yeah. 206 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: So, you know, when he first came in, it was 207 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: so much hype. He was on the cover Sports Illustrated 208 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: all that stuff, and I like to get all that 209 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: stuff for the kids. 210 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: So you know, teammates were shitting on them too. Well, 211 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's just part of it. You know 212 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't think this high school kid 213 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: could come in here and really do nothing. Yeah yeah, 214 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: because you know at that time, man like we only 215 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: had KG as our guidance guy who came out and 216 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: had some success. 217 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: And yeah, definitely, you know what I'm saying. And then 218 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: you know when Cole did it. Cole, people forget Cole 219 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: struggled his. 220 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: First year start right away to it was struggle at 221 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: first start right away, you know what I mean. Jermaine O'Neill. 222 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: He struggled his first two years not starting this ship 223 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: that so you know, KG was the only one that 224 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: got in, went right to work. 225 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Guy it like that. 226 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: But you know, the Lebron thing, I think it was 227 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: perfect for him because he went to an organization that 228 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: was trying to build and obviously they had a bunch 229 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: of young guys there. He came in and he just 230 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 2: fit right in with the young guys and they was 231 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: able to do what they needed to do. 232 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: All right, now I could talk. 233 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 4: Let's I wasn't playing on the Okay, I don't know 234 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 4: what I was thinking exactly. Blame your man Marcus with that. 235 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 4: I don't know, because I never knew him playing for 236 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 4: the Cavs. Put that in the you know, and he's 237 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: fucking cue cards. 238 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 3: He blame him. What I wanted to ask you. 239 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 4: Is because he's gonna go with Lebron, and you know, 240 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 4: him and my man, like they always argue, he always 241 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 4: goes with Kobe, right, So I love when they argue. 242 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: It's like every daylight, I'm gonna go with Jordan, you 243 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. That's why I'm gonna go with Jordan. 244 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 4: That's always been my favorite player did how was it 245 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 4: playing AAU you know games early with like Vince Carter 246 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 4: and Kobe Bryant, those two grades. 247 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: So so the the way that shit happened was crazy 248 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 2: because people forget Kobe was overseas, so when he when 249 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: he came to the States, he was trying to catch 250 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: up with the game like most cats would do coming 251 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: from overseas. So he got with sham God get his 252 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: handles together, and then he played with us to just 253 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: get a foundation of how the speed and the strength 254 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: of the game was. And you could just see the 255 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 2: the termination in them, Like he would pull up from 256 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: deep shoot the air ball and then we'll be like yo, man, 257 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: like get closer to that, He'll go right back to 258 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: the same spot, shoot that bitch again and it be 259 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: all money, you know what I mean. So, but you 260 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: could just see it early, you know, in them, and 261 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 2: then we was rock stars, man, like you know the 262 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: ship that the kids is doing now playing you know 263 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: AAU at college universities and you know, high school games 264 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: on ESPN, like Lebron got that on ESPN. That was 265 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 2: some of the things that was you know put in 266 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: for us. But we was never able to capitalize, you know, 267 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: on those situations. Like one example, like me and Cole 268 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: was an hour and a half away from each other. 269 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: So in our in our class in ninety six, towards 270 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: the end, it was it was basically who you like, 271 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: if you like you know, if you like McDonald's and 272 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: you like Burger King, you know what I'm saying. So 273 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: it was one and two in so many people eyes. 274 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: And we could have played a game, a high school 275 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: game at the Garden or at the Spectrum in Philly 276 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: or at any college against each other at that but 277 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: we never we never was able to make that game, 278 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But that au stuff with 279 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: the players, you know, shout out to the players, shout 280 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: out to everybody who came through the program. But that 281 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 2: that for us, man, we was like rock stars. We 282 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: were seeing the stuff that everybody caught on later. With 283 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: Vince Carter, we were seeing that early early, got early, 284 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: Like damn, what the fuck he just do? 285 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: Wait? Did he really do that? We're seeing that ship early, 286 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 287 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: And then you know, obviously Cold, you know, transitioning over 288 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: and becoming a player that you know, he became rest 289 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: definitely man. 290 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: You know, cold cole passed away. 291 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: Man. 292 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: My West Coast crib was in Hit the Hills in Calabasas. 293 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: Cole passed away, maybe about five minutes away from me, 294 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 295 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, d how do you think today's NBA 296 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: is different from like around your ever you can't touch us. 297 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: You had kind of a stat out that's similar to 298 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: today's game. Like I feel like you was a little 299 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: ahead of your time a little bit. 300 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: So it was it was cats like deathlift, Shrimp, Derek Coleman, 301 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: Billy Owens, uh, Steve Smith you know, six' nine. Him, 302 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: yeah guys like that that came before. Me but the 303 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: the difference now is basically all of the rules Of european. 304 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: Rules so you're seeing all threes and you're seeing guys 305 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: being able to move and go wherever they want on the. 306 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: Court in my, era, Motherfucker, chucky you got through the 307 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: lane and you're not. Looking, bang they're, gonna you, know 308 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: give you a quick, one you know WHAT i. Mean 309 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: so then you had the hand check in and stuff like. 310 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: That so they took that style of play out and 311 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: now that's why you see scores one thirty five or one, 312 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: ten you, know, one so you can't even you can't even, determine, like, 313 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: yo this is gonna, be you, know a low scoring. 314 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: Game so speaking Of, nick, right who you think not 315 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: not the better player, overall but the Better nick career so? 316 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: Far Between brunton And. Mellow that was my. 317 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: Fucking question always was you know what you? 318 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: Know because you. 319 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: Got let me was gonna say who you think is? 320 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: Better or what you Say mellow because that was really 321 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: that was not better Better nick. 322 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: CAREER i feel what you're. 323 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 4: Saying but all around that was with the Comparison mellow 324 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 4: so And, Brunting. 325 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: Mellow to make sure you get That mellow good good. 326 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: Stuff So mellow actually is A hall Of famer right 327 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: so as far as career he's, reached The brunting is still. 328 00:15:54,000 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: CLIMB i would Put Mellow, nick But, rick But nick right, 329 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: now it's you gotta, say you gotta SAY jb because 330 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: he's winning and that's the bottom. Line that's what it 331 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: comes down, to you know What i'm. Saying so LIKE 332 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: i don't Know mellow's Full nick. CAREER i know he's you, 333 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: know he added certain points and did his thing of whatever, 334 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: whatever but winning that takes it. 335 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: Off like you got, yeah, definitely you know WHAT i. 336 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: Mean so you, know. 337 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: Let me ask you another. 338 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 4: Question how do you feel about like kids making money 339 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 4: in college? Now BECAUSE i know back in the days 340 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: it wasn't like. That you think a kid should rush 341 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 4: to go to THE. Nba they, not the, draft they. 342 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 4: Not but that's that's part of the, problem like a 343 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 4: coop of, flag LIKE i, know his first round. Pick so, 344 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 4: YEAH i, mean you, know the kids that have the 345 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 4: desire and the heart to want to pursue that ship 346 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 4: and go after. It the those are the kids that 347 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 4: that's going. 348 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: After. 349 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: Now you got kids that's just going to college where they're. 350 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: Going they're going from high school trying to get into 351 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: college just for the nil, deal and they're trying to 352 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: stay in school six, years five six years they can 353 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: still get. 354 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: So think about, It so think about how about to 355 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: break it? Down so think about. 356 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: It if you Play division one basketball and your starter 357 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: you can make anywhere between two the five million, dollars 358 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: and that's just off of a nil. Deal the, school 359 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 2: the university can actually pay you as. Well so in, 360 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: reality in one, year you can make eight million, dollars 361 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: you see What i'm, saying. 362 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: Or ten stay in, school. 363 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 4: Because if you make second, round you ain't you might 364 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 4: not even be making that kind of. 365 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: Money, Yeah so that's What i'm. 366 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: Saying so the other the other part of about it 367 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: too is basketball players know now THAT G league is like. 368 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: Prison you get into THE G, league ain't no telling 369 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: if you're coming. OUT a lot of cats. Don't they. 370 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: Don't they signed to two way, deals, everybody, right but 371 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 2: not even that like they. Signed they, signed you, know 372 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: two way. Deals but they're only gonna play in the, 373 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 2: one the one. League so they might bring them up 374 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: if a guy get, hurt they'll bring them up for a, 375 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: week two, weeks or they might even put you on 376 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: a playoff. Roster but you're not gonna go in and, 377 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 2: play you know What i'm, saying. 378 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: Unless a lot of people get. Hurt, yeah you know 379 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: What i'm. 380 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 2: Saying so cats now in high, SCHOOL i mean in, 381 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: college they're, like, yo we might as well just stay 382 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: in school and make as much bread as we can 383 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: and then if the opportunity is there, later we're gonna go, later. 384 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: Cool and take them unless to secure his bag. 385 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: First but the other the other thing, too that's killing 386 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: the game is that the kids that are that are 387 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: actually league in college, playing they're older, now so they're twenty, 388 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: six twenty, seven twenty, eight you know What i'm, saying junior. 389 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 2: Seniors so now. 390 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: When you do go, pro you're ready kind of. Old. 391 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeahs and so now you got another nine ten years to, 392 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: play you know What i'm. 393 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: Saying so that's you, know. 394 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: You learned something new every. Day man with the. Legend 395 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: what's your Illist rutgers? 396 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: Experience you See Rucker? Park? 397 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah well, shit you KNOW i played WITH i played 398 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: With Terror. SQUAD i played With Fat Jones Tterror. 399 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: Squad oh, man you hear About we're cool? Now? 400 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah we about at that. Drama 401 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: SO i remember a little. Bit it was BEFORE i Was, 402 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: virginia BUT i remember R jinia and In Tervis squad. 403 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: Drama how did that affect your relationship With stephan was? 404 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: Crazy stuph don't remember it because we both was. Kids 405 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: we first of, all we grew up. 406 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: TOGETHER i, KNOW i knew his dad and it was, 407 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: mom's his, brothers, everybody you know WHAT i. 408 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: Mean SO i played with The. Galachos we was always 409 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: going to camps and shit. Together but when we got 410 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: here to, ge, yeah both of our heads were so 411 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 2: fucking big because we was both excited to be home, 412 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: playing you, know in The. Mecca my very first GAME 413 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: i never forget was ON. ABC i played against a 414 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 2: team that traded, Me Milwaukee, bucks and we was. 415 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: Down we was down like fourteen fifteen and a. 416 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 2: Half we came back with, one and that was like 417 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: one of the best feelings because the first HALF i 418 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: stunk it. Up second HALF i got. Going he just 419 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: kept giving me the, ball you know What i'm. Saying 420 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: SO i thought right then and Then i'm, Like, yo 421 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 2: this shit gonna be crazy because he KNOW i could 422 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: score the, ball and he got the ball all the, 423 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 2: time he could go do his thing when he went 424 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: to you know WHAT i. Mean but when that shit, 425 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 2: happened it was like it took us back so far 426 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: because me and him both stopped hanging, Out we stopped 427 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 2: talking to each, other and then you could see that 428 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: chemistry also on the, court you know What i'm. Saying 429 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: so it'll be times and he don't remember this. Shit 430 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: it'll be times where like he'll be trying to create 431 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: and make a play and he'll pass me the. 432 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: Ball it'll probably. 433 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: Be like seven seconds on the, clock but he'll pass 434 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: it to Where i'm not arranged to catch and shoot 435 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 2: or catch and do. 436 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: Something it might be at my. Ankles i'm, sixteen SO 437 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: i gotta go get. It you feel like he was 438 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: doing it on? Purpose what do you mean he was right, 439 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: exactly SO i would have to go get the. BALL 440 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: i would have been down to get it by the 441 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: TIME i square myself. Up NOW i see him running 442 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: right behind the ball to get the. Ball you know 443 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: What i'm. Saying so it'll be stuff like. That but, 444 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: yeah it, definitely it definitely definitely affected. Us look at 445 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: that whole Lot man. Squad he wasn't. Around he wasn't, 446 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: Around So i'm gonna tell. 447 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: You i'm gonna tell you another. Story he wasn't. 448 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: Studio back, then you know. Exactly this was. 449 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: Ning my, god a lot of PEOPLE i don't. 450 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 4: Know i'm, HAPPY i, Said i'm. 451 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 3: Happy, yeah i't. 452 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 4: Know let me tell. You let me tell you you 453 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 4: have a you have a rep. Study, YEAH i talk 454 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 4: about that funny with this, guy because Like i'll be 455 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 4: meeting people like for the first, time Like John Wading 456 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 4: machine and certain. Dudes but you And murder be, like, 457 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 4: yeah remember you first? Mixtape he got? It he always 458 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 4: had his, feet you. 459 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 2: Know so back in the, day, man we we used 460 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: to we was doing the podcast stuff before it even. 461 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: Started oh. Wow. Yeah so it was called off top 462 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: radio in the. 463 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 2: Studio so we had my man was A, dj so 464 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: he had all the new music and bringing artists in 465 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: and ship like. That then he had models doing the 466 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: interviews and. Ship so it was it was like one 467 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: of the first podcasts before podcasts just started on way back. 468 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: Then but let me let me tell you a funny 469 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: story about THE G Unit Terror squad. Ship so Fifth 470 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: hat just brought. Me it wasn't The spinner, chain but it. 471 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: Was it was. 472 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 2: Similar it was A G unit chain And i'm in. 473 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: Season so we fly To miami getting ready to play 474 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: the heat and. Ship so we go to the club 475 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: AND i see everybody FROM ts, right. 476 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: So you, know it's me and my. 477 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: Man So i'm jeweled. Up i'm feeling. Good i'm In, 478 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: miami you. KNOW i walk in the, club everything. SHIFT 479 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: i see these. Niggas i'm, like oh, yo ain't no, 480 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: Way i'm getting out of here, RIGHT a. 481 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 4: Whole bunch Of spanish niggas so sous. 482 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: Pieces SO i TELL i tell the, Host i'm, like, 483 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: yo you gotta put us away, different you, know put 484 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: us somewhere. 485 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: Else. 486 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: Yeah so so they must have seen WHAT i was 487 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: trying to do whatever. Whatever SO i get to my, 488 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: section way away from these, motherfuckers and and next THING i, 489 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: know BEFORE i call order, bottles they had already sent bottles. 490 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: Up SO i was, like, Okay SO i was, like 491 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: you know what what they? Drinking SO i send some 492 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: bottles back down and ship like, that because that's basically 493 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: if they did. 494 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 4: That joe Rich, shelter pistol p everything. Exactly the problem 495 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 4: with shoot you know, here we're gonna send you these. 496 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 4: Battles we actually would have cheered with. 497 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: You, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure it was over THAT. 498 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 3: I didn't walk into a. 499 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 2: Track and then on the flip side right to talk 500 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: about the step. Ship we was in L. A we 501 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: was in L a shooting banks, video hands, up And 502 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: steph came through in the stretch. 503 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: Limo you, know niggas was stretch. 504 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: Limo he comes through in the stretch limo a bunch of, people, 505 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: models whatever, whatever and he dripped out and god rest 506 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: is soul p From Mob deep was, Like, yo he 507 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: ain't leaving here without that. Ship Sung i'm on. That i'm, like, no. 508 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: Like he ain't leaving here with. 509 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: That So i'm, like, nah we we're. Good we. Teammates 510 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: Think Paul. 511 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 4: Barry got you think he got Called jack back in the, 512 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 4: days remember, when because remember? When remember when what you said. 513 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: You won't be slipping like, yeah, YEAH i don't, KNOW 514 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: i you were no. MURDER i think something happened like, 515 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: that something something like. 516 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 4: That, yeah, No i'm just saying you AND i just 517 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 4: remember that when j put him in the H i 518 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 4: know he was hot over that. 519 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: SHIP i know he was hot Over so you know 520 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: it might have. Happened but but now step for one of. Us, 521 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: man you gotta look out for the. 522 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: Fact definitely definitely. 523 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: Legend we're trying to get him on head next to 524 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: as well many make it, Happen, yeah make it. Happen 525 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: so we do something we call a quick fire, around, 526 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: right and that's so we had questions right Quick So 527 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: pattison on n Y. 528 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: C you know he's gonna Say, Jersey that's WHAT i. 529 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 3: SAID i don't, Know, yeah you don't. Know it might 530 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: be a hard. 531 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: Ques let the man answer the. Question he gonna Go. 532 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: JERSEY i, Mean patterson is. Home, man you. 533 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 2: Can't you can't get what you can get out Of 534 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: New York. City like there's so many, borrows so many 535 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: different spots like. SHIP i, Mean brooklyn is looking totally, 536 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: Different queens is looking, different you know WHAT i. 537 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: Mean so my city don't look. Different still. 538 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 2: Shelter, pattison BUT i, mean you, know homeless. Home But 539 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: New york it provides so many different. 540 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: Things, definitely ah. 541 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: MAN i mean obviously the hometown right. Here you, Know, 542 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: nordy those those my. Guys they took care of me in. 543 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: College yeah, yeah. 544 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: He was, yeah, yeah. 545 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah so SO i went To nova And nova had 546 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: A nike deal AND kg From. Nordy he you, know 547 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: he loves basketball and, ship so they will always get you, 548 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: know the newest, ship you, know The pennies and The 549 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 2: jordan's or. Whatever so he will send me the kicks like, 550 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: yo y'all Played kentucky on you, KNOW, cbs your, Waddies 551 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: i'm gonna send. These so at that, Time i'm the 552 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 2: number one player in the. Country there's no number. 553 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 1: One playing the country type ship we just Put that's. 554 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: So it's no N i l, Deals we're not getting no, 555 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: money no. Nothing SO i went to Lap. AS i was, like, 556 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,239 Speaker 2: look It's. Nike i'm still in the same. Brand i'm 557 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: wearing different. Shoes so they just started flooding me with 558 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: different shoes and ship like. That so you, know they 559 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: kept me. Freshman but you, know as far as far 560 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 2: as rappers In, jersey, like you, KNOW i rock with 561 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 2: a little bit of everybody. 562 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: Man Like murder put me on THE. 563 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: Lbl so you, KNOW i called Myself. JERSEY i don't just, 564 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: say you, Know i'm From. PATTERSON i move around And 565 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: Jersey jersey all. 566 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 4: Over and for, sure what was it like growing up 567 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 4: In patterson back? Then, well you, know moving not Just, 568 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 4: patterson just moving. 569 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: SHY i seen the Movie Lean On, me, Right, Yeah 570 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: SO i grew up like WHEN i was in in PRE. 571 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: K WHEN i pre, k let's say third, grade my 572 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: my school was on one corner my part my house 573 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: was on the same, block And East Side High school 574 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 2: was right behind. 575 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 1: Me so when that crack ever Hit, nigga it was. 576 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: On it was. Crazy it was. 577 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: Crazy you start, seeing you, know guys that was going 578 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 2: to school now high on the. Drug then you started 579 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 2: seeing the cats that didn't have no money with. Money 580 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: it was, like, yo what the then you, start you, 581 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: know as a, kid you start seeing all the blue, 582 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: tops the red, tops yellow tops all. Around it was, like, 583 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: yo this ship is this ship is. Unreal you know 584 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: What i'm. Saying but But patterson is like any other city, 585 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: man any other, borough. 586 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: You know What i'm. 587 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 2: Saying but you, know for us, man LIKE i always 588 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: tell the, youngsters like with the gang banging, ship, right 589 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 2: the city is too Small New, York. 590 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: La you got laying you can move around a little, 591 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: bit and even In New york it's still, small you 592 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: know What i'm. 593 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: Saying, Big but you, know In, patterson like you can 594 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: have an incident with your paulse you, know In patterson, 595 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: like you can have an incident downtown and you could 596 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: live on one side of the town and before you get, 597 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: home that person could even catch up to. 598 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: You you know What i'm. Saying so you, know but 599 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: But patterson is like any other hood. 600 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 4: Man yeah, no but you but you made, It we 601 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: all made, it and you know that all is. Good 602 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 4: and you, know sometimes you look back and you'd be, like, 603 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: damn look look at What i've been. Through like right, 604 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 4: now you could be you could stay in calubasas In, 605 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: Cali california and Be, hollywood but you come back talk 606 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 4: about your mentorship and how you work with the kids 607 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 4: In jersey because you don't have to do. 608 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: That. 609 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah SO i started my Program Tim Thomas players my 610 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: rookie year in ninety. Seven so this summer makes twenty nine. Summers, 611 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: yeah twenty nine summers. 612 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: For the, kids for the. Kids. 613 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah so the program, itself we produced twenty eight, pros 614 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: twenty McDonald's All, americans AND i sent over fifteen k 615 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: kids off the. 616 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: College so that's just the start in, life you know 617 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: WHAT i. 618 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: Mean that's, good and you, know now being back and 619 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: coaching high school ball and just trying to share my 620 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: experiences with the, kids you know WHAT i, mean because 621 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: you know a lot of, them you, know they don't 622 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: don't really have that desire like we had like to 623 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: try to make it. Out they're there in better situations 624 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: financially and stuff like, that so you, know the hunger 625 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: is not. 626 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: There SO i just my social. Media, yeah, yes it's. 627 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: So it's so many different things, this you, know that's 628 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: that's out. There and we ain't even get into the, 629 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: girls you know WHAT i, Mean you know WHAT i. 630 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: Mean so but with all with all of that that's going. 631 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: On i'm, like you guys got it made because now 632 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: if you put into work for four years in high 633 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: school and your parents is paying for trainers and au 634 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: and this is that you can reap the benefits of 635 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: it with the N I l you know What i'm. 636 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: Saying so all you gotta do is put in the 637 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: work for four, years you know What i'm. Saying so 638 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: you know it's kind of, hard but you, know at 639 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: the same, TIME i enjoy. 640 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: It. 641 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 4: Man you, know eight million in college, YEAR i might 642 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 4: stay for a couple of years instead of rolling my 643 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 4: dice with THE, nba, Right, MURK i ain't know all. 644 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 4: That both The jersey eight million. 645 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 3: Kids i'm. STAYING i, like let me stay one more. 646 00:30:59,760 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: Year. 647 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: Yo it's a kid that actually came through my. Program 648 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: he was he was At tennessee young young boy Is. 649 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: AKI i don't really know a, situation but if you 650 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: go on on social, media you'll see he's trying now 651 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: to fight the N c DOUBLE. 652 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: A to get back into college. Basketball. 653 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: Wow so therefore he probably doesn't have a real situation pro, 654 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: wize or he's probably not on on the on the 655 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: draft board as a high draft picks and now he's 656 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: trying to get they want to get back into. 657 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 3: College, yeah, man making that over, here you know What i'm. 658 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: Saying, so so you know how rappers always ask each, 659 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: other who's your top? Three and, this that and the? 660 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: THIRD i want to know who's? That your your dream? 661 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: Squad, yeah your dream, team your top? FIVE i can't 662 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: put you gotta know you gotta put. IT i. 663 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 4: Can't you gotta be able to put himself in. It 664 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 4: come on his topic that you want to play, with 665 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 4: put himself in. It you put yourself. 666 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: In So i'm gonna. Go i'm gonna. Go i'm gonna. 667 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: Go i'm gonna Go shock at the. Center i'm gonna 668 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: Go Tim duncan at the. Four i'm gonna, Go scottie 669 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: at the at the, Three Scottie pippen at the. 670 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: Three Scotty, Okay scotty because he played both, Fans scotty 671 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: bugging out a little bit. Lately but, yeah that's my. 672 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: Guy that's that's my O. G that's that's my. G you, 673 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: know Round harper's my OL. G, well you, know sometimes 674 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta leader the big guy, along you, know M. 675 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: J but but, again they both won the same amount of. 676 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: Range yeah you can't knock all. That but, Yes, scotty 677 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 2: yeah yeah too, much too? Much yeah, YEAH i got. 678 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: You whatever you're, drinking. 679 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 3: How do you how do you balance? 680 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 4: That because like a lot of ball players like between the, 681 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 4: finances like you have, kids you, know you're. 682 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: MARRIED i need to get. THIS i need to get. 683 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: SO i ended Up scottie at the. Two at the, 684 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: two you gotta, go M j the two and at 685 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: the one man you gotta go. 686 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: Magic magic magic over step BECAUSE i had people all 687 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: give they, go they debate over that to steph magic. Step. 688 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah BUT i mean, again it's it all depends on 689 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: what you. LIKE i got so, Me i'm gonna, Gold 690 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: i'm gonna go more TO i could have went further 691 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: deeper and say guys like Elgem bella. 692 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: Got you know What i'm saying. Back, yeah but IF 693 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: i said, that these young kids like who WHAT i like? 694 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 3: THAT i like that. 695 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: Stuff that's a big, five you know WHAT i. Mean 696 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: so and Then i'll be coming off the. 697 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: Bench i'll come off the bench and, yeah you know he's. 698 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 3: Hype he knew you, THAT i, KNOW i know he didn't. 699 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 4: Know my, God I'm i'm you know What i'm, saying 700 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 4: he being in those. 701 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 3: Bleeds you, know how do you how do you balance the? 702 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 4: Lifestyle BECAUSE i, look when you look at, basketball, right 703 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 4: a lot of the cocky players that you, know you 704 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 4: know out, there got all the chicks and cause you, 705 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 4: know he not GOING i feel, like do you feel 706 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 4: like those guys are gonna win? Chips or the guys 707 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 4: that settle, down have their wife lay back like a. 708 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 4: Shay you look at the. Shade he don't look like 709 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 4: he club a. Lot he don't like he's. Outside he 710 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 4: might have a little, jewelry, like but how do you 711 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 4: feel about? That, LIKE i, mean it's how you balance 712 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 4: the lifestyle and trying to win a chip at the same. 713 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: Time but the season is so, long, Man like you 714 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: you with your, brother it's like, y'all y'all always on the, road, 715 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: right so you y'all probably together out of the, year 716 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: maybe eight months out of the year with. Traveling so 717 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: it's the same thing with, basketball. Right so guy's got 718 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 2: to have different outlets to kind of get their minds 719 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 2: off of. 720 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: The day to day, work because it is, work you. 721 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 2: Know What i'm, Saying it's. Fun it's the best job 722 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 2: in the. World one of the best jobs in the. 723 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: World but you got to, have you, know different things 724 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: to kind of balance yourself. Out some guys like the, 725 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: gamble some guys like the, club some guys like the, 726 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: fish some guys like the you, know fly planes and 727 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: do different, shit you know WHAT i. Mean but at 728 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 2: the end of the, day man, like every man is for, 729 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: themselves you know What i'm. Saying so you know it's, 730 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: there it's going to be. Presented it's no. Secret but 731 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 2: it's how you indulge in, it you know What i'm. 732 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 2: Saying and some guys dive in and they can't, swim 733 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 2: you know What i'm. Saying some, guys you, know figure 734 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: it out shit like. That so but for, me man, 735 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 2: LIKE i just knew my upbringing and THAT i was 736 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 2: the only guy in my family to break the generational. 737 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 2: Curse SO i just knew at that POINT i got 738 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: nieces and nephews behind. Me there's no WAY i could 739 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 2: just you, know be out here just going going. 740 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: Wow you know What i'm. Saying, NOW i have my, moments. 741 00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 3: You know What i'm. 742 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: Saying not your, jewelry you got all of. That you, 743 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: KNOW i have, planes all that, ship do all that 744 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: you know WHAT i. Mean but he was touched. Up 745 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: he was on the street LIKE i. WAS i was Was, 746 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: JACKY i was Looking Jack daves back. Then that's WHY 747 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: i came out and want no. 748 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 4: Ship it's the only guy that. Could you, know when 749 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 4: you go to THE V I p, section you know 750 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 4: the section you never in THE V I p section 751 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 4: connection CONNECTION b ON b sections never, right you, know 752 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 4: shout out To, branton but you know he's the man 753 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 4: Got Joe. 754 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 3: Joe look shout the. Trade. 755 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 4: Now look he let those these sources out because then 756 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 4: people start calling R So, look he's the only guy 757 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 4: that can. 758 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 3: Have like when you go to the bar that. 759 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 4: Has never Been hennessy and nothing back. There, yo give 760 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 4: me And Tim thomas The. Hennessy, yeah it's me, me you. 761 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 2: Uh, me You jada kiss AND i want to say. 762 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 2: Spree it's somebody else that Drink. Henny only few that 763 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 2: that drink that honey back. 764 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 3: Next, year listen that. Year next. Year don't. Worry i'm 765 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 3: going to have, Legit LENNY V I. 766 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: P this. 767 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 3: Game you gotta Get, Turbulus. Tony get to the. Game 768 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 3: got to come to the. Game everybody's. 769 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 4: There that the last game when one GAME i went To, 770 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 4: Uh Dana white was, There Gil? 771 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 3: King it was so. 772 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: Many it was one. GAME i THINK i was kind of. 773 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: Massive THEN i, SAID i Think i've seen. You Then 774 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: Patrick ewing it was. 775 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 4: Stopped oh, yeah oh, yeah like a Whole. Nick oh, 776 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 4: yeah yeah yeah. Maybe oh, Yeah TIM i. WAS i 777 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 4: was there To John starks found that he was the 778 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 4: shoutout To guard and The, Dream James, Charity James, dolan 779 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 4: you know On New York, knicks the N Y. Rangers 780 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 4: I'm New york EVERYWHERE i go BECAUSE i always look 781 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 4: At New york or is we the most hated everywhere 782 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 4: where we? 783 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: Go? 784 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 4: Man that's how it was back in the. Day out of, 785 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 4: town you, Know New York nigga come out of. Town 786 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 4: we mash up the. 787 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,479 Speaker 3: Town you know What i'm. Saying, so but talk about 788 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 3: the water man because we should have broke them up. 789 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: Here yeah, Yeah i'm gonna get my water up. Here. 790 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 2: Man it's CALLED rx. Water you know it's. Good take 791 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: some water got electrolytes in. It so if you're having 792 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 2: a night, out you're drinking That branson and whatever you 793 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 2: need to. Recover you don't need no red, ball, no 794 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 2: none of. That got drink drink before you go to. 795 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 2: Sleep soon as you wake up in the, morning bounce right. 796 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 2: Back so we're gonna get that up. 797 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: There, yes we're gonna get this up out of. There 798 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: let's turn it. 799 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 4: Around SO i heard the murder talking, earlier, right AND 800 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 4: i know he was his, kids a young seven, right 801 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 4: and you was talking about. Them he wants, to you, 802 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 4: know get trained by, you and you told him don't 803 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 4: put too much pressure on. 804 00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 3: Him now what do you mean by? 805 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 1: That? Well seven? Right? Seven? EIGHT i got eight year, 806 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: old a five year old THAT i want to get the. 807 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: Best so my son is, seven, Right so at this, age, 808 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: man you don't want to take away from their livelihood 809 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 2: because when they love it's like. Rap, Right when you 810 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 2: guys love, it you're gonna dive all the way, in 811 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 2: you know WHAT i. Mean so when the kids fall 812 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 2: in love with whatever sport it, is they're gonna fall 813 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: in love with it and dive all the way. In 814 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: and that's when they're gonna come to, you acting you for. 815 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 2: Help right, now if you force it on, them you 816 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 2: might be taking the love away from, them you know 817 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 2: What i'm. Saying and that's what's going on with a 818 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 2: lot of the. Kids in youth, sports the parents is 819 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 2: trying to live through the kids because they seeing what we. 820 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 2: See they Seeing lebron Or steph signing. 821 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: For Three. 822 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 2: Hold, up, yeah so they see. That now now it's 823 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 2: at the lower level with, college so they seeing. It 824 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 2: so now that everybody's trying to speed up the, process 825 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 2: you know WHAT i. Saying everybody has, talent but if 826 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 2: you don't love, it you're never gonna be able. 827 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: To do that shit every day, consistently you know What i'm. 828 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: Saying so it's, like, yeah so like, y'all y'all been 829 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: performing the last year and a, Half, right the songs ain't. 830 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: Changed you're doing the same, songs different, spot, right but 831 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: you got to get up for that, Ship, Like, yo 832 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: we're doing this on that's on this. Song you gotta 833 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: get up to go perform that. 834 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 2: Ship and it's it's just like that with, Sports, right 835 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 2: you gotta go travel or, Whatever Saint louis Or, california, whatever. 836 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: But you're going to just play that same, game you 837 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: know WHAT i. Mean so if you if you force them. 838 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 2: Now you might just drain them from, it you know 839 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 2: WHAT i, mean from the, experience or you might just 840 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,479 Speaker 2: pull all the blood away from them and they won't 841 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 2: even love it no, more. 842 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: You know WHAT i. 843 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 3: Mean so like you hear that, parents you hear that out. 844 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: There don't put too much pressure on THE i got 845 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: them playing, basketball baseball and, soccer so you, SAID i 846 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: whatever one they actually fall in, love like sa we worked. 847 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: With like my, son he's playing, soccer he's playing. Basketball 848 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 2: he just started hitting the. Baseball so you. 849 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:19,240 Speaker 3: Don't know What that's, dope, man that's. Dope. Man i'm 850 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 3: glad to have you. 851 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 4: Here. Man we Got Tim thomas, here took out his 852 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 4: time out of million dollar schedule to be on the 853 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 4: podcast we loved from the Hard Rock. 854 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 3: You know What i'm, Saying, MURDER i, mean what's. 855 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: GOOD i was glad to have you on my, show 856 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: AND i would like to have you. 857 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 3: My guy who started this. 858 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 5: Mess good luck surviving the off season football. 859 00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 3: Fans at, first that was. AFRAID i was Petrified football's. 860 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 3: O it's like a part of. 861 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 4: Me just died inside two hundred ds two footballs. Back 862 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 4: but TONIGHT i won't just cry Because i've. 863 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 3: Got always to play and that's the place with hard 864 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 3: rock BED i we. 865 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: Survived offered by The Seminal try Be. 866 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 5: Florida must be twenty one plus and physically president In 867 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 5: florida to wag your terms of conditions. Apply if you 868 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 5: or someone you know as a family, problem please call 869 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 5: one eight three three play wise