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Speaker 1: Greg Sauceman are he was having? Greggy? I wish I
Speaker 1: could say happy Monday. It's not really the happiest of
Speaker 1: Mondays here today. Obviously we'll get into everything that happened
Speaker 1: over the weekend. How are you doing, buddy? I'm doing
Speaker 1: it right, man, I'm doing it right. Didn't uh didn't
Speaker 1: sleep great last night? I found whatever. It's awkward, but
Speaker 1: I found whatever. Uh. I watched the pay per view.
Speaker 1: Before I go to bed, my mind wanders. You get amped.
Speaker 1: I always been amped up by adrenaline rushing from the Royal.
Speaker 1: The adrenaline. It's like me thinking of the possibilities of
Speaker 1: a how it will get screwed up, what I liked,
Speaker 1: and be like, what they will do, what they should do?
Speaker 1: And then my mind then turns to work, and then
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't sleep. And then you wake
Speaker 1: up a bunch of times thinking about work, and then
Speaker 1: the next thing you know, there's the alarm. There's the alarm,
Speaker 1: six am. What is six am for you? Six thirty?
Speaker 1: All right? Well, yeah, I did catch the end of
Speaker 1: The Royal Room, but I didn't watch it in its
Speaker 1: I watched so I had basically a lot of just
Speaker 1: brock Lessner and Drew mcintier. I thought it was awesome.
Speaker 1: I thought the Royal was really cool. I I watched
Speaker 1: that was amazing. Spoiler alert for those that haven't watched.
Speaker 1: UM So I had a pause it in the end
Speaker 1: of the Daniel Bryan match because I was the fellow
Speaker 1: of Mike for like an hour, hour, one minute to
Speaker 1: be exact, and so I had the earpiece on my
Speaker 1: laptop watching that that after the call, and we had
Speaker 1: the Grammys on the big TV and that was our night.
Speaker 1: Grammys weren't so good, you know the best. You know
Speaker 1: the best though, when I'm married to my wife because
Speaker 1: any of these like big events that are on the
Speaker 1: Sunday night, the Oscars, Grammys, uh, NFC Championship game, that
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. She's like, all right, So I
Speaker 1: guess we're just like gonna make wings, right, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: yess we are. So we go to the supermarket. We
Speaker 1: buy some wings and buy wings for the Grammys. Interesting,
Speaker 1: it was awesomely more so for the Royal Rumble. But
Speaker 1: sure they fell on the same night, exactly right, That's
Speaker 1: what I would have done WrestleMania. I'm sure we'll buy wings.
Speaker 1: So we go to supermarket, we buy wings, we toss
Speaker 1: them in our own franks, in our own ranks, right,
Speaker 1: buy some Karason Celery, get some blue cheese. I'm married.
Speaker 1: There you go. It's awesome. It all works out. It was.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. Um, are you well? I mean, aside
Speaker 1: from the obvious not great, obviously, Greg, I mean everything
Speaker 1: that happened this weekend. I don't know if you want
Speaker 1: to jump into it right now. Obviously, yeah. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: we're let's not being around the bush um to any
Speaker 1: of this. So I'll say from my fresh back of
Speaker 1: what what's going on? And then you could you can
Speaker 1: time and we're gonna spend a lot of time talking
Speaker 1: about Kobe Bryant. You can see behind us Kobe's two
Speaker 1: numbers probably switching, but eight and twenty four um. And
Speaker 1: I was watching Maryland yesterday and I saw this on
Speaker 1: the air and in game line when I called in
Speaker 1: when I was watching the Turfs and I got home
Speaker 1: from the mall um and I put my phone to
Speaker 1: the counter and I'm watching Maryland and they were the
Speaker 1: normal disaster that they normally are if they're getting up fourteen.
Speaker 1: They went down to those points and I was cursing
Speaker 1: and yelling and then they had like a big three ys.
Speaker 1: All right, let me up my phone and see what
Speaker 1: my you know, my Maryland friends are saying. And here
Speaker 1: was to know that you see Kobe. And my other
Speaker 1: friend that was watching the games, did she see Kobe? Like,
Speaker 1: oh yes, I turned away for a moment and like
Speaker 1: I didn't see him at the in the Anna Maryland
Speaker 1: game is whenever I missed I was like it was
Speaker 1: weird that Kobe has had an Indiana Maryland game, but okay,
Speaker 1: sure he likes basketball, big guy. And then Mike texted me,
Speaker 1: and this is truly how I found out. Mike texted
Speaker 1: me a screenshot of in Game Live what we had
Speaker 1: on at that time, and I was gonna. I was
Speaker 1: going to tune in. I was gonna, you know, I
Speaker 1: was watching Game Live after Maryland because I was exciting
Speaker 1: to find you know, talk about it, and it said
Speaker 1: what happened to Kobe? Kobe Bryant died, And I was like,
Speaker 1: you just get you say it, you get goose bumps,
Speaker 1: you say it, you get chills. And then I realized
Speaker 1: what was going on. I couldn't believe it, and you
Speaker 1: I felt bad because there's four minutes left in the
Speaker 1: Maryland game. I felt bad, like reacting to that game
Speaker 1: how I would any game where I was cheering and
Speaker 1: yelling and screaming and booing and crying and that all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Because somebody just died and wound up being
Speaker 1: nine people just died. It was very, very sad. Now,
Speaker 1: as I said on in Game Live yesterday, I feel
Speaker 1: bad for Kobe. Of course I feel heartbroken, but it's
Speaker 1: it's his thirteen year old daughter, Joanna. That's just that's
Speaker 1: what crushes me. Um, his wife Vanessa, his other three children,
Speaker 1: a baby that this is hard to say. We'll never
Speaker 1: know who her father is. That is so so sad.
Speaker 1: Were there anything else in the world? And I just
Speaker 1: put this cloud over the entire day on Sunday, And
Speaker 1: when I was I joined the game live yesterday and
Speaker 1: I gave my thoughts and when I contacted you, Frank
Speaker 1: to do the same. We wanted all of her how
Speaker 1: especially the ones that covered the NBA like you and
Speaker 1: I do. Were watching NBA like you and I do,
Speaker 1: to discuss You go, I don't know what I could
Speaker 1: do it without being emotional. I go, well, then you're
Speaker 1: the right person to have on because hit you. Uh
Speaker 1: it hit you very hard? Yeah it, dude. And you
Speaker 1: know I'm not gonna try not to sound overly dramatic
Speaker 1: about this. Obviously, this is a huge tragedy and thoughts
Speaker 1: and prayers with all the families that are involved, not
Speaker 1: just the Bryant family obviously, as you mentioned, Kobe and
Speaker 1: his thirteen year old daughter involved in this tragedy. But yeah, look,
Speaker 1: the reason why I got into sports originally started playing basketball.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite sport. It was it was the first
Speaker 1: sport that I ever played, you know, four or five
Speaker 1: years old, right around the time that Kobe came into
Speaker 1: the league. I mean everybody has their idols and their
Speaker 1: favorite athletes and their favorite celebrities, and mine was Kobe.
Speaker 1: That's not just I'm not just saying that you knew
Speaker 1: this beforehand. It's it's always been Kobe. A lot of
Speaker 1: people look up to Derek Jeter. Again, it was this
Speaker 1: was a time period that I was growing up in, so, uh,
Speaker 1: he was my guy. Kobe was my guy. So this
Speaker 1: this was a tough one yesterday to to really tough
Speaker 1: pill to swallow. Obviously, had to just like sit down
Speaker 1: for like ten minutes. Couldn't even I didn't want to
Speaker 1: want to go on Twitter. I had to get out
Speaker 1: of the house, you know, go to the park actually,
Speaker 1: like went to go play basketball, like shoot around a
Speaker 1: little bit because I didn't want to keep reading about it.
Speaker 1: I had to get my mind off of it do
Speaker 1: something else. So yeah, that was you know how I
Speaker 1: spent the majority of the day. It doesn't even it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel real today still. Um, again, it's just an
Speaker 1: unbelievable tragedy, and not just for Kobe again, it's the
Speaker 1: nine people that were involved, all the families that are
Speaker 1: involved here too. There was another child on board. I mean,
Speaker 1: they were going to his daughter's back basketball game. They
Speaker 1: were and and he had done this countless times already
Speaker 1: in the month of January. Everything that I've read like
Speaker 1: he's he uses helicopters to get around um because it's frankly,
Speaker 1: it's quicker, and it's something he's done, you know, seemingly
Speaker 1: so many times and nothing has ever happened. And obviously
Speaker 1: what happened yesterday it was just you know, it takes
Speaker 1: not just the sports world by storm, Greg, it takes
Speaker 1: the entire world by storm. Everyone acknowledges it. It's the
Speaker 1: impact that he had not only on basketball, but athletes
Speaker 1: all around the world. You know, Naymar scores a goal
Speaker 1: and he's throwing up the two four and you're hearing
Speaker 1: chance break out at the at the Pro Bowl yesterday,
Speaker 1: and you know, teams taking the second violation to start
Speaker 1: off NBA games yesterday, which in my opinion, I understand
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of sponsors, is a lot of
Speaker 1: money involved, but I don't think that basketball players are
Speaker 1: playing basketball yesterday in the NBA. That's just personally my opinion.
Speaker 1: And we could talk about talk about this more after
Speaker 1: the break. I mean his legacy as talent um, what
Speaker 1: he did on the court. Talk more about when we
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Speaker 1: Here on the bff S, Greg Susman and Frank Stampard
Speaker 1: talking about the life uh of Kobe Bryant, And this
Speaker 1: was a tough one for everybody because Kobe was Kobe
Speaker 1: was not just an NBA player, He was a a
Speaker 1: mega story superstar. He was the man for our entire
Speaker 1: childhood for so many people, our age, that includes celebrities,
Speaker 1: that includes all athletes, that includes just fans. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was the guy and he said as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: like you looked up to he was your guy, and
Speaker 1: you know, him perishing like that was unspeakable in all honesty,
Speaker 1: And I will say this, I wanted to want to
Speaker 1: get this one off my chest for a while. Kobe
Speaker 1: Bryant is a fantastic basketball player, unbelievable, basketbayer, one of
Speaker 1: the top last basketball players of all time. He's one
Speaker 1: of the top competitors of all time. But I don't
Speaker 1: know Kobe Bryant the man. I don't know Kobe Bryant
Speaker 1: the guy. And you see the statements from people like
Speaker 1: Derek Jeter and Michael Jordan's say how how how much
Speaker 1: he cared for his daughters and his wife and everything
Speaker 1: You've seen, like he is a fantastic father coaching his
Speaker 1: daughter in basketball, wanting her to go to Yukon, and
Speaker 1: it's out the world ablaze playing basketball. But I do
Speaker 1: find it hard in all honesty, Franks who forget Whobie's
Speaker 1: past and transgressions. That is a part of him, that
Speaker 1: is a part of his legacy, And even on a
Speaker 1: day like today and the Daily yesterday, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's fair for that to be forgotten either. I don't
Speaker 1: think that you could just look at somebody and take
Speaker 1: one side of the coin and not at least acknowledge
Speaker 1: that the other part existed. And I don't think a
Speaker 1: lot of people are just sweeping that under the rug.
Speaker 1: It's just hard to bring that up in in this
Speaker 1: time of tragedy, right, Like, I don't think people are
Speaker 1: forgetting anything that Kobe Bryant has done. And I thought
Speaker 1: that Gabe kind of laid us out nicely earlier on today,
Speaker 1: on the morning after, he said by all accounts, he
Speaker 1: was pushing for women's basketball and trying to help his daughter,
Speaker 1: you know, potentially carry on the Kobe Bryant legacy, right
Speaker 1: And I saw an awesome clip from Jimmy Kimmel where,
Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy Kimmel asked him, Uh, well, you don't
Speaker 1: have a you don't have a son, you don't have
Speaker 1: someone to carry on your legacy. And he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: people ask me that all the time when my daughter
Speaker 1: is around and she just looks at them and says, no,
Speaker 1: that's me, Like, I'm going to carry on the legacy
Speaker 1: like she wanted to play basketball and maybe even professionally
Speaker 1: one day in the w n b A. But perhaps,
Speaker 1: you know, everything that Kobe has done in the past
Speaker 1: couple of years in terms of, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: to push women's basketball and be around with his family,
Speaker 1: it doesn't look it doesn't make it doesn't take away
Speaker 1: anything that he's ever done, obviously, And I see what
Speaker 1: you're saying in that regard, Greg, And you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna I don't think anyone is just gonna sweep
Speaker 1: down under the rug and just forgive Kobe for that,
Speaker 1: because you know that's not how it should be, you
Speaker 1: know obviously, Um, you know, people make mistakes, but it
Speaker 1: still doesn't make it right. So I see what you're
Speaker 1: saying in that regard. But but for me, again, like
Speaker 1: it's harder for me because so much of how I
Speaker 1: looked at Kobe was because of the athlete, right, because
Speaker 1: of what we saw in the court and and the
Speaker 1: competitiveness and the fire and the way that he played
Speaker 1: and never back down attitude and always wanted the ball
Speaker 1: and crunch time and willing to take on any assignment,
Speaker 1: guard any player, take any shot, uh, shooting threes, mid range,
Speaker 1: driving to the rack. I mean, that's just so much
Speaker 1: of what I remember, you know, trying to emulate that
Speaker 1: on a basketball court. You know, a little ten year old,
Speaker 1: little white Frank trying to like beat Kobe on the court.
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's just that's who I looked up
Speaker 1: to the player. I hear what you're saying. Um, it's
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to to separate the two in
Speaker 1: this moment, obviously because I helped him so so near
Speaker 1: and dear, like I have his book, I've read his book,
Speaker 1: The MoMA Mentality. Um, I hear what you're saying. But
Speaker 1: but overall, it's still a tough day. Like no matter
Speaker 1: how you want to look at it, like it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a tough it's just all around, no matter how
Speaker 1: you want to look at it, it's just tough situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I listen, of course, it's a very very sad situation.
Speaker 1: How much Kobe means to a lot of people like yourself,
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't, for whatever reason, I don't
Speaker 1: get attached like that too. Celebrities like I harging back
Speaker 1: how you felt yesterday, Frank to when when Mac Miller
Speaker 1: died and you told you and Florio both like this
Speaker 1: is a really tough day and I didn't get it,
Speaker 1: you know, and not honestly right, Like I don't have
Speaker 1: that relationship with anybody. You can tell me a God forbid.
Speaker 1: Whatever the athlete growing up that I grew up with
Speaker 1: was was Derek jet and Eli Manning, right, and God
Speaker 1: forbid didn't happen to them, Like I don't have that attack.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Derrek Jeter. But that's not me. And
Speaker 1: I think I'm in the minority in that, because there's
Speaker 1: a lot more people that can pinpoint what their favorite
Speaker 1: athlete or superhero or celebrity or whoever they look up
Speaker 1: to outside of their personal family, of course, means to them.
Speaker 1: My wife Judy, it's like if said told me somebody
Speaker 1: yesterday that she would lose it, right, because that something
Speaker 1: much they meant to that person had. So I understand
Speaker 1: that side of it, even though even if I personally can't,
Speaker 1: I can't get there. What Kobe meant for basketball was
Speaker 1: so so grand um he was born and bred to
Speaker 1: do this generational player. He was a generation, and it
Speaker 1: was m J, it was Kobe, and then it was Lebron.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was the bridge between the two. He
Speaker 1: was the late nineties, the early two days, kind of
Speaker 1: was the face of basketball during that time. Crazy. We
Speaker 1: never got the Lebron Kobe final, Yeah, and we should
Speaker 1: have got it, and we were robbed of it the
Speaker 1: year that the Orlando Magic made it over the Cleveland Cabs,
Speaker 1: and I remember rooting for that at the time, like
Speaker 1: everybody was. Everybody wants Kobe versus Lebron. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's the passing of the torch almost right, and no
Speaker 1: one knows how it would have played out. Obviously, Lebron
Speaker 1: didn't have the best supporting cast at the time. That's
Speaker 1: why he didn't end up not making the finals, and
Speaker 1: it would have been tremendous to see that. But you're right,
Speaker 1: I mean, we never got it. We never we never
Speaker 1: knew we had we got. We had some nice one
Speaker 1: on one matchups between the two. I remember a game,
Speaker 1: don't Maybe it was five years ago. It was Kobe
Speaker 1: hits a game winner against Miami six five, maybe even
Speaker 1: longer than that, yet it was when Lebron was on
Speaker 1: the heat. It was like that Big Three. It was
Speaker 1: just a huge game, was nationally televised game and Kobe
Speaker 1: hits the game winner, and it was like it was
Speaker 1: the twilight of Kobe's career, you know, it was you know,
Speaker 1: early to mid thirties at that point, and it was
Speaker 1: just it was awesome to see like he still got
Speaker 1: it right against Lebron, who we knew. We saw like
Speaker 1: Lebron his blossoming into the best player in the NBA.
Speaker 1: So that was really cool to watch and then tearing
Speaker 1: his achilles and coming back from that at the age
Speaker 1: that he did in his mid thirties. Yeah, there's no
Speaker 1: one else like I mean from a from a basketball perspective,
Speaker 1: it's you know, you hear him go down in arguments
Speaker 1: all the time, right m J or Kobe and you know,
Speaker 1: I was one of the greatest players of all time.
Speaker 1: It's you know, you can't really have that conversation without
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant being part of it. And look, he was.
Speaker 1: He was a different animal, man like, the way that
Speaker 1: he operated on the court. It was just killer instinct.
Speaker 1: And Gabe mentioned it to like, people didn't like him.
Speaker 1: I get it, man like in his younger age, even
Speaker 1: two I think, really, I don't think he really started
Speaker 1: to figure it out until like after he retired, like
Speaker 1: he started to see more of the human side of
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant. I agree with that. He was like he
Speaker 1: was almost like a savage beasts on the court, and
Speaker 1: like just even the way that he would interact, like
Speaker 1: with his teammates, he didn't have friends. I mean he
Speaker 1: would throw guys under the bus. I mean he's playing,
Speaker 1: he's dropping eighty one, He's got some mushed Parker in
Speaker 1: his line up, He's got Chris mim and his starting lineup.
Speaker 1: He didn't have anybody at that time. It was Kobe
Speaker 1: and that was it. He was alone, and I think
Speaker 1: that that's how he felt for a majority of his career,
Speaker 1: even playing along someone like Hall of Famer in Shack,
Speaker 1: I mean they didn't get along. I mean you you
Speaker 1: know all the words each of them said about each other.
Speaker 1: I think that you do someone very special to get
Speaker 1: along with. Kobe Bryant um ruined Dwight Howard's psyche, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. And we know that the down inturn that
Speaker 1: he took people like rought our tests now relationships, it's
Speaker 1: almost the complete opposite of what you see in the
Speaker 1: NBA today where everyone's friends, right Lebron helping guys up, right,
Speaker 1: And not to say that that's wrong, it's just different friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's different. But we didn't want like aside from okay,
Speaker 1: there was trade rumors. Kobe wanted out. He didn't want
Speaker 1: to play alongside Shack. He wanted to prove that he
Speaker 1: was a guy. It was just a different mentality, right,
Speaker 1: Like you throw on the term momba mentality, but that's
Speaker 1: really how he played, right. It was me versus the world.
Speaker 1: That was it. He didn't want to play with he
Speaker 1: didn't want friends, he didn't want superstars to join him.
Speaker 1: That's not how he wanted to play. It was he
Speaker 1: was just different man. And it's just completely opposite of
Speaker 1: the way the game is played now. You know. It's
Speaker 1: these guys are a lot more friendly, and they work
Speaker 1: out together and they trained together, and it's it's just
Speaker 1: completely different than the way the game was played. And
Speaker 1: here it all the time the nineties where everyone's clothes
Speaker 1: lining each other. And you know, people didn't like Jordan either,
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, Kobe really tried to model
Speaker 1: his game a lot after Kobe, I mean after Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: and there are highlights where you'll see like they literally
Speaker 1: had the same exact moves side by side. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's tough man, the player, the competitor, the
Speaker 1: man that he was, the man that looked like he
Speaker 1: was turning into it's and and we'll never be able
Speaker 1: to see that, you know again, forty one years old
Speaker 1: and lost in all of this is is thirteen year
Speaker 1: old daughter and the fact that her teammate was on
Speaker 1: that and the baseball coach, and there were other people,
Speaker 1: you know, a guy speaking out that lost his wife
Speaker 1: and he has three kids and now they're all alone.
Speaker 1: Like it really is tragic, man, extremely extremely tragic. We'll
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Speaker 1: I want to wrap up Kobe. We have a lot
Speaker 1: of news that's kind of breaking that I do want
Speaker 1: to get to use. I want to put a bowl
Speaker 1: on the Kobe stuff. Um for now, I've heard. What
Speaker 1: did you think of the NBA not canceling their games yesterday?
Speaker 1: I wasn't a fan of it. I think that they
Speaker 1: should have tried everything in their power. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a game that might end up meaning something down
Speaker 1: the stretch for teams that are fighting for the postseason.
Speaker 1: And you know, you heard comments from people like Carmelo
Speaker 1: Anthony who said this was the toughest game that I've
Speaker 1: ever played in. And obviously he's coach close with Kobe
Speaker 1: and played for so long with Kobe Bryant and a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys did. And you see him Duncan
Speaker 1: on the sideline with the Spurs, he's an assistant coach
Speaker 1: now like he's crying, he's wiping his eyes. Kyrie Irving
Speaker 1: didn't even appear in yesterday's game. He he couldn't play,
Speaker 1: and that's a game that might matter for the Brooklyn
Speaker 1: Nets like later on in this season. So I understand it.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of financial stipulations that are involved
Speaker 1: with these games, but personally I felt that they should
Speaker 1: have canceled the games yesterday. It's a tough situation. It's
Speaker 1: really tough situation to do logistically speaking as well, um,
Speaker 1: so I understand the the idea not too I think
Speaker 1: chrismaox I said that a game of yesterday, I had
Speaker 1: a fantastic idea and the All Star Game, all the
Speaker 1: well half the teams who are eight the other half
Speaker 1: Show four. That was definitely see that coming true. I
Speaker 1: thought that was a really cool idea. Alex wondered aloud
Speaker 1: if should be retired by every team? Um already by
Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: about that. I don't know how I feel about that. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I it's it's tragic. It's very very sad.
Speaker 1: You hit a lot of it a few moments ago
Speaker 1: that it felt like Kobe was starting the second part
Speaker 1: of his life, coaching his daughter, being a being a father,
Speaker 1: and he just had a new daughter, forgot, for God's sakes,
Speaker 1: right Like it felt like being a family man was
Speaker 1: so important to him and doing stuff outside of basketball,
Speaker 1: like the documentary he did that you want to last
Speaker 1: her for there's the short film. There's a lot left
Speaker 1: of Kobe that he wasn't gonna be a talking head
Speaker 1: on inside the NBA. Not that he wouldn't do that,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't gonna be a talking head. I was
Speaker 1: just gonna get into coaching, but he was going to
Speaker 1: be around I knew so much, most importantly a great father,
Speaker 1: a better husband, and do all that, And that is
Speaker 1: what's sad. Scott f N belts hit it um on
Speaker 1: Sports Center a couple years ago, the other a year
Speaker 1: or two ago, and it has always hit me like
Speaker 1: this line hit me more than anything. Sure, you're sad
Speaker 1: when somebody dies of all the memories and you think
Speaker 1: of all the great times. But what hurts more than
Speaker 1: anything else, what's to come that you don't know. You
Speaker 1: won't have that chance to witness what Kobe will do,
Speaker 1: or his daughter will do, or any of the other
Speaker 1: seven people that are on that flight on that helicopter
Speaker 1: do in their life, and that is sadder than anything else.
Speaker 1: We'll have these memories, you have your entire childhood growing
Speaker 1: up of Kobe memories. It's what was going to happen
Speaker 1: later that he's the most I think, all right, let's
Speaker 1: get um. Let's get into some sports talk chat about
Speaker 1: what's going on around UH baseball and the NFL. We
Speaker 1: have a lot of baseball to cover, so I want
Speaker 1: to get into the NFL first, and the little transition
Speaker 1: over to baseball start of the NFL where the Chargers
Speaker 1: are into Jake Glazer has made it clear that Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers will not be back next year. Frankie, this isn't
Speaker 1: something that we didn't see coming. Like Philip Rivers moved
Speaker 1: out of there. It was clearly the time for a
Speaker 1: clean break. Well, him and Eli manning same spot right,
Speaker 1: Maybe Philip Rivers is a little bit more left in
Speaker 1: the tank. Both of these guys are moving on. Eli
Speaker 1: retired last week. Philip Rivers is waiting to see what
Speaker 1: comes next for him. You've heard places like Tennessee come
Speaker 1: up if they don't resign Ryan Tannehill, a team that
Speaker 1: just made the ANFC Championship game. That could be a
Speaker 1: good spot for him as a veteran. Does he want
Speaker 1: to take a shot where you'll start, you know, mentor
Speaker 1: somebody Tampa Bay with Bruce Arians as a gun slinger,
Speaker 1: that makes sense for him. I think there's a call
Speaker 1: spots for Philip Rivers. Still, what do you think Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers ends up? I think both of the teams that
Speaker 1: you brought up make a ton of sense. We've heard
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots thrown around. I know that there
Speaker 1: was a report over the weekend that Robert Kraft wants
Speaker 1: to bring back Tom Brady, and understandably so. Look, they
Speaker 1: have so much history together. It doesn't mean that it's
Speaker 1: going to happen for sure. I know a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago during the McGregor fight, there were reports after
Speaker 1: that that, uh, Tom Brady met with Al Davis and
Speaker 1: there's a potential for him, you know, coming over with
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders. Next year will be their first
Speaker 1: season in Las Vegas, so we'll see what happens with Brady.
Speaker 1: There's kind of a musical chair situation going on with
Speaker 1: these veteran quarterbacks right now, so I don't want to
Speaker 1: rule out the Patriots as a possibility. The two teams
Speaker 1: that you mentioned, the Bucks make a lot of sense
Speaker 1: as well with Bruce Arians and you know, I'll throw
Speaker 1: out the Carolina Panthers because you don't know what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do at quarterback. They can trade away Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: I personally, I think that Cam Newton is probably going
Speaker 1: to be gone. I think they want to start anew
Speaker 1: with with Matt Rule, their new head coach, and he
Speaker 1: has this big contract and everyone fell in love with
Speaker 1: him based on its press conference. So we'll see what
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers do with Cam Newton ultimately, but I
Speaker 1: think that they can probably find a taker for Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: and if that's the case, it wouldn't surprise me if
Speaker 1: they draft a quarterback early on and then maybe bringing
Speaker 1: a veteran like Philip Rivers too, maybe mentor or said
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback for the next two or three years or
Speaker 1: something like that. So I certainly think that's possible on
Speaker 1: the Charge side of things, makes sense. Gonna move on.
Speaker 1: He certainly was not the same that he was. Three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: twenty interception. Yeah, he was gross last year. And I
Speaker 1: have called Philip Rivers a loser for a long time
Speaker 1: because he could never come up big and you knew
Speaker 1: he was always gonna through that pick six. Its kind
Speaker 1: of like Tony Romo on that way. And Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: and the Chargers have separated or into Jay Glazer. So
Speaker 1: what do they do next? Well, there's three options, as
Speaker 1: we discussed during the break. Franky, Yeah, so those three
Speaker 1: options are, Hey, they can fill Philip Rivers with another
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback. We've heard a potential swap of Tom Brady
Speaker 1: to the Chargers and Philip Rivers to New England. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady gets to play in the warm weather. There are
Speaker 1: other veterans, not just Tom Brady. Could be Marcus Mariota
Speaker 1: could be an Andy Dalton, j Jameis Winston, someone who's
Speaker 1: looking for a new start with another team, so they
Speaker 1: can go that route. They have a veteran I believe
Speaker 1: he's still under contract with the team in Tyrod Taylor,
Speaker 1: who has flashed at times. And the way that we're
Speaker 1: seeing the NFL move right now, they think at the
Speaker 1: Drew Brees homecoming, Huh, that's not gonna happen. Drew Brees
Speaker 1: said over the weekend that he's gonna take the next
Speaker 1: couple of months to figure out what he wants to do.
Speaker 1: Retirement is an option for him, but he said it's
Speaker 1: either the Saints or retirements. So I don't think he's
Speaker 1: going anywhere. But Tyrod Taylor. The NFL has been trending
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. We saw Lamar Jackson have an m v
Speaker 1: P caliber season. We've seen Tyrod Taylor have success in
Speaker 1: the past with the Buffalo Bills. So uh, there's a
Speaker 1: chance that Tyrod Taylor can be the starter for the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. And then the third option is obviously
Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback. Justin Herbert had a great week this
Speaker 1: past week with the Senior Bowl going on. He played
Speaker 1: well during the Senior Bowl. He helped his stock rise.
Speaker 1: Um kind of helps out your New York Giants obviously, Greg,
Speaker 1: because there's demand for that fourth pick, moving ahead of
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, who potentially trade up and take a quarterback.
Speaker 1: So Justin Herbert is an option. Uh maybe if they
Speaker 1: stay at their spot, they'll have to who you don't
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna start his first year, could be
Speaker 1: a red shirt season for him, and that's where Tyrod
Speaker 1: Taylor would come into play again as well. So it
Speaker 1: seems like they have three clear options. They can sign
Speaker 1: a veteran, they can go with tire Taylor, veteran who's
Speaker 1: already on the roster, or they can look to draft
Speaker 1: a rookie uh and potentially throw him out there in
Speaker 1: his first season. Yeah, absolutely all options make sense. As
Speaker 1: I said, great for the Giants because, uh, if the
Speaker 1: Charges are looking to draft a rookie quarterback, and maybe
Speaker 1: they are, I've assumed that certainly on their radar. Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert had a big weekend at the Senior Bowl. Uh
Speaker 1: to is still they're out there, and you can think
Speaker 1: of the trade package that the Giants will get, Greg.
Speaker 1: We just saw the Jets trade up a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago from seven to three with the Indianapolis Colts,
Speaker 1: and they gave up their first round pick that year,
Speaker 1: and they gave up two second round picks as well
Speaker 1: on top of that. So that could be potentially what
Speaker 1: the Giants are looking at in return. Well, and the
Speaker 1: Giants have plenty of holes to fill it. You think
Speaker 1: there would be a good up possibility that did get
Speaker 1: Himan would do that, But it's Kettleman, so uh, never
Speaker 1: assume anything. Frank. Maybe his four computer people that he
Speaker 1: hired will help him out with this one. Greg, how
Speaker 1: well thin those computer people are? I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: so I go in two ways, right, they're either like
Speaker 1: kids that are like interns, right right, that that's possible.
Speaker 1: The other one is like guys that just got like
Speaker 1: laid off and best Buy that like don't have a
Speaker 1: job anymore. Right. He hired the geek squad, right exactly.
Speaker 1: They work on like Windows computers. Like he went in
Speaker 1: there and into best Buy like trying to get his
Speaker 1: phone fixed, and he saw something. He saw people like
Speaker 1: like like typing on the computer like this, and he
Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, you've never seen that before.
Speaker 1: I like that. So he tried to hire them. But
Speaker 1: I think that's like this thing possibility. It's not somebody
Speaker 1: that's like a Harvard graduate or a Pen graduate like
Speaker 1: the Brown's entire organization is. I do appreciate how in
Speaker 1: touch you are, Like, you're not delusional like other fans, Greg,
Speaker 1: where no matter what your team does, like you agree
Speaker 1: with it, Like no Dave Gentleman is gonna get it right.
Speaker 1: You're the same way, Frank. That's the only way to
Speaker 1: be a fan. Right. People will call me out, Well,
Speaker 1: you're not a real Jet fan, You're not a real
Speaker 1: Knicks fan. No, I I That's exactly what I am.
Speaker 1: I'm a realistic fan. I don't live with delusions of grander. Greg.
Speaker 1: There are no delusions of that. When Adam cases your
Speaker 1: head coach when look, we'll call it for what it is.
Speaker 1: The Knicks since the turn of the millennium, greg Or
Speaker 1: probably the worst franchise in the NBA. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of calling it for what it is. It is what
Speaker 1: it is, Frank. It's factual. Yeah, it is factual. Did
Speaker 1: you watch any the Pro Bowl yesterday? Not a single second?
Speaker 1: Nor did I not a single second. Judy was like
Speaker 1: following Instagram for updates, like what is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? Her dad was like, what
Speaker 1: have you become? I was like, listen, it wasn't me
Speaker 1: created a monster, like I don't I don't care about
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. I don't watch the Pro Bowl. She
Speaker 1: she was all in, this is nuts. At least one
Speaker 1: was yeah, I mean we do, like she didn't watch it?
Speaker 1: Has she adjusted to the signing her name Sessamania On
Speaker 1: the end, I don't know where does she right? Well?
Speaker 1: At work she's going by she doesn't like officially changed
Speaker 1: her nami. Has a long process and she's a new
Speaker 1: passport and stuff, so it's like, hey, in the ass
Speaker 1: um at work she was going by Judie Cooker's SUMAN
Speaker 1: for like the next year or so. Everybody gets to
Speaker 1: know her and then eventually she just drop off the couger. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess that makes sense, a little transition process. Do
Speaker 1: you feel strongly about it either way? You know it's funny.
Speaker 1: Uh I would like it, prefer it probably, But I
Speaker 1: was like she was like, absolutely not, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: Was like, all right, well is your name? I get it.
Speaker 1: You would prefer it to be Sussman human yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not alone. I'm not crazy. Then I've yeah, I've
Speaker 1: I've cost some late night fights. But back in the day,
Speaker 1: this was like earlier on in the relationship, the first
Speaker 1: couple of years we're together. Yeah, I just I kind
Speaker 1: of assumed would always be that, and like she was
Speaker 1: always fine with it. But her friends when we first
Speaker 1: get started, started getting invited to weddings when um, she
Speaker 1: was going to be married. They didn't know what to
Speaker 1: put them to put somebody person but Judy Cooker and
Speaker 1: your Shusman, and she's just like, He's like, well, why
Speaker 1: did Why didn't you just put you susmans my name?
Speaker 1: It was like nice, Yeah, now we get invited as well,
Speaker 1: Mr and Mrs Susman Susman. Yeah, your your sample. I
Speaker 1: didn't know I was causing controversy by doing that. No no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: It's like a one day January seven. We got a
Speaker 1: ton of Baseball news rank. There's a lot going on.
Speaker 1: We got Nick Castianos to the Reds, which kind of
Speaker 1: causes a playing time concern here for some youngsters on
Speaker 1: that team. And then we have another rumored trade potentially
Speaker 1: happening as well. Greg, what is that? So let me?
Speaker 1: Oh god, sorry, I just saw the Bruce Feldman on Twitter.
Speaker 1: So the Giants are hiring former Brown's head coach Freddie
Speaker 1: Kitchens as our new Titan's coach. Officially, Well you knew
Speaker 1: that was the case, Greg, Well, I said, I literally
Speaker 1: had just read an article before we were on the
Speaker 1: air saying it's not even close to done and it
Speaker 1: might not happen he'll do Wonders with Jason Witten and
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram Greg that's gonna happen. That would be so weird.
Speaker 1: That'd be so weird. I know. Um, okay, let me
Speaker 1: start with the trade before we geting to Castie. Honest,
Speaker 1: so we've remember about starting Marte being on the block.
Speaker 1: I never really thought he would get traded for some reason.
Speaker 1: I know the Pirates aren't going anywhere and they need
Speaker 1: to rebuild, but I didn't really think he would get traded.
Speaker 1: And then right before the show him fair enough. So
Speaker 1: right before the show started, my buddy uh texted me,
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, sorry, Martell, I got traded, and I
Speaker 1: started like reef rushing Twitter violently. I didn't see anything,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Hayman Hassan Rosendal All
Speaker 1: tweeted at Starling Marte has headed to the Arizona Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: in exchange for two young prospects that have high ceilings.
Speaker 1: Have they mentioned who those prospects are? You not seeing
Speaker 1: names yet? Alright? So Starling Marte, Yeah, this is big
Speaker 1: news because I mean he's someone that's being drafted very
Speaker 1: early with his NFBC A DP in the month of January,
Speaker 1: currently sitting at thirty three point five, So that's a
Speaker 1: solid third round pick no matter how you want to
Speaker 1: look at it. Twelve team leagues, fifteen team leagues, he
Speaker 1: is a third round pick, and especially from a roto perspective,
Speaker 1: you you understand why Starling Marte is a third round pick.
Speaker 1: Someone that can provide stolen bases. And with the NFBC,
Speaker 1: there's so many overall components you can't afford to punt
Speaker 1: any categories, and Starry Marte put together a fine season
Speaker 1: last year. He is now thirty one years old. This
Speaker 1: will be his his age thirty one season. He doesn't
Speaker 1: turned thirty two until October nine, so that will be
Speaker 1: his playing age this season. Last year to twenty three homers, nineties,
Speaker 1: seven runs scored, eight two r b I and twenty
Speaker 1: five steals, so near player um again. He gives you
Speaker 1: speed without hurting your home runs. He gives you a
Speaker 1: good batting average. He is a legitimate five category contributor,
Speaker 1: albeit not to the level of the guys that obviously
Speaker 1: are drafted in like the top five picks. Yeah, of
Speaker 1: course he he was somebody that previously went around the
Speaker 1: second round because of what he could do. Hasn't played
Speaker 1: a full season in twenty fife. That's the biggest knock
Speaker 1: on him. A hundred forty five games twenty eight teams
Speaker 1: is a lot. Hundred and thirty two last year, Frankie,
Speaker 1: just read you all those stats. It was a good year,
Speaker 1: uh for Starling Marte. If he could stay healthy, would
Speaker 1: be a better year. I think in Arizona is a
Speaker 1: better line up, it's a better ballpark. I'm interested in
Speaker 1: Startling Marte, Frankie, Yeah, absolutely, and you should be. You
Speaker 1: have to pay up third round pick. But I think
Speaker 1: his floor is you know, even last year he played
Speaker 1: only a hundred and thirty two games, he's still provided
Speaker 1: twenty three home runs and twenty five steals. So you know,
Speaker 1: if he could say healthy for those one forty, which
Speaker 1: I think it's a fair projection, you have to bacon
Speaker 1: that he's probably gonna have at least one d Elston,
Speaker 1: so don't miss around fifteen and twenty games throughout the
Speaker 1: course of the season. I think he's safe for twenty
Speaker 1: home runs, twenty five steals, two eight five batting average
Speaker 1: in this Arizona Diamondbacks lineup. He should be able to score,
Speaker 1: you know, close to one hundred runs. He had nineties
Speaker 1: seven runs scored in the Pirates line up last year.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that he's moving over to a better lineup
Speaker 1: with the Arizona Diamondbacks. Will have a little Marte Marte connection.
Speaker 1: Kettle Marte one of the breakout stars from last season.
Speaker 1: I will likely be hitting behind Starling Marte if this
Speaker 1: trade does go through. I guess it's going through. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's Starling Marte first, Kettle Marte second, something like that. Um,
Speaker 1: I guess that means Jake Lamb will be out of
Speaker 1: the lineup because he's currently Penciltan is their third baseman.
Speaker 1: But I would imagine they move Kettle Marte back to
Speaker 1: second base where he has experience at Wardo Escobar back
Speaker 1: to third base, and then you have Marte in center
Speaker 1: even for all To in left, and you have Cold
Speaker 1: Calhoun in right field. Does that make sense? Yeah, that
Speaker 1: seems that seems to make sense. Was what was her
Speaker 1: first baseman? Christian Walker? Well, I do like a lot
Speaker 1: as like a late round corner infielder. He's a stat
Speaker 1: cast hero, and their shortstop is Nick Ahmed, who is
Speaker 1: a good defensive player, so you like he's the guy
Speaker 1: you pick up a drop last year, especially in you know,
Speaker 1: fifteen teamers or and the only leagues, but outside of
Speaker 1: that doesn't really have much value. And then Carson Kelly,
Speaker 1: who I'm a little bit intrigued in from a fantasy
Speaker 1: baseball perspective this season. One of the prospects going over
Speaker 1: the Pirates is last year's first round pick for Arizona,
Speaker 1: Brennan Malone. Okay, yeah, I don't know anything really about him.
Speaker 1: And who oh I see the oh so happened? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Oh man, this is a tease by Modica.
Speaker 1: Oh so Modica just tweeted out a picture that pittures
Speaker 1: for Arizona. Was like, is he going to Pittsburgh? I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's like a coincidence. He just, you
Speaker 1: know how he just analyzes these players, and he put
Speaker 1: up Zach Gallant. I was like, whoa wait a minute, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: oh Greggy, please, but I think he's just like doing
Speaker 1: Zach Gallant research. All right, Well, actually, I guess the
Speaker 1: move would be somewhat better for Gallen. Right Pittsburgh, better
Speaker 1: pitchers parked then in Arizona, but better chance at winds
Speaker 1: staying in Arizona. Zach Gallant, someone that we loved last
Speaker 1: year lit up Triple A. I got called up by
Speaker 1: the Marlins and then really surprisingly got traded for for
Speaker 1: Jazz Chisholm last year just awesomely in Arizona. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then he was great in Arizona. So I hope he's
Speaker 1: not on the move. Someone that I thought might be
Speaker 1: is John Duplantier we spoke about last year, who who
Speaker 1: does have some upside. He is a prospect for the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 1: It's not Gallant. It's Malone plus Paghetto plus two fifty
Speaker 1: dollars of international bonus money. Okay, so Leo there Paguerrero.
Speaker 1: All right. So I don't really know much about those prospects.
Speaker 1: Admittedly probably probably you know, young guys, I would assume, yeah,
Speaker 1: that are that are far away from the majors. That's
Speaker 1: That's what I would imagine. But yeah, this is an
Speaker 1: overall positive move for for stalling Marte. Let's just hope
Speaker 1: that this doesn't affect his ADP. Do you think he's
Speaker 1: gonna climb into the second round? Now? Greg? Is he
Speaker 1: going to be like a borderline the second round pick?
Speaker 1: So he's doing solidly in the third round? You said, yeah,
Speaker 1: his ADP was thirty three, so even in a fifteen
Speaker 1: team or he was an early third round pick, and
Speaker 1: in a twelve teamer he was a later third round pick,
Speaker 1: so he was in the third round. He was not
Speaker 1: a second round pick. Yeah, so I I could see
Speaker 1: him moving up toward the turn closer to the turn, Frankie,
Speaker 1: I can't see that. Be mussle. I'm pulling up the
Speaker 1: NFBC ADP over the last week here where over the
Speaker 1: last twelve days or days is interesting? So Marte is
Speaker 1: going around? Who Labra Torres? Interest one. I'd rather have Marte.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Marte, Aaron Judge, I, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Shane Bieber. He's going to one pick earlier,
Speaker 1: Brice Harbor. Yeah, like I'd rather have Bryce. I would.
Speaker 1: I would hope not to be in that predicament. Like
Speaker 1: if I'm in that predicament where Bieber, Bryce Harper, and J. D.
Speaker 1: Martinez are gone and I'm looking at the board staring
Speaker 1: at Aaron Judge, Steven Strassburg, Labor, Starling Marte, man, I
Speaker 1: really would not want to be in that physician and
Speaker 1: I probably would take Starling Marte because he gives you
Speaker 1: the stolen basis. I don't want Aaron Judge. I'm off
Speaker 1: from this year. He burned me last year. I'm back obviously,
Speaker 1: but I mean, what did you wear pinch stripes underneath
Speaker 1: that purple sweater day? No? Um? So are you? Are you?
Speaker 1: You know what? Maybe maybe I need to have a
Speaker 1: little bit of a reflection period here, Greg, because obviously
Speaker 1: I was in the main event last year, and I
Speaker 1: believe I was drafting twelfth overall, and I took Aaron
Speaker 1: Judge in the first round to Christale in the second round.
Speaker 1: And I'm off of both of those players this year.
Speaker 1: And we often preach to other people, people who listen
Speaker 1: to us for fantasy baseball advice, that you can't really
Speaker 1: hold grudges fantasy baseball. But it's not. I'm not just
Speaker 1: avoiding these players because I was burned by them last
Speaker 1: year in the main event. Mind you, this is a
Speaker 1: high stakes league with a sevent d dollar buy in,
Speaker 1: where I was in first place going into July and
Speaker 1: then losing Chris Sale obviously kind of burned everything down
Speaker 1: to the ground. Not that he was pitching great to
Speaker 1: begin with, but I think there are other factors that
Speaker 1: come into play. It's not just all I've been burned
Speaker 1: by this player before. It's I'm worried about the Aaron
Speaker 1: Judges and the Stantons and the fact that we spoke
Speaker 1: to Virginia Zakas about this before. It's baseball players who
Speaker 1: play with muscle mass like that. That's not the way
Speaker 1: that baseball players have have ever really played the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, even we've seen we saw guys in the
Speaker 1: p D era. I mean, they weren't built the same
Speaker 1: way that like Aaron Judge and Stantonard. So I almost
Speaker 1: wonder are these guys always going to be prone to injury?
Speaker 1: So I do worry about that, and I kind of
Speaker 1: don't want to draft them. I don't want to draft
Speaker 1: Judge as early as he's going until he proves to
Speaker 1: me that he can stay healthy for a season. I
Speaker 1: get it. But Chris Sale, it's like looking this Chris
Speaker 1: sal with the elbow thing, Greg, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: so worries him. Here's what I'll say. If he pitches
Speaker 1: in spring and the velocities up and he looks healthy,
Speaker 1: He's gonna shoot up till you a borderline first round pick.
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. The reason why he's going in the
Speaker 1: third round right now is because of that unknown, and
Speaker 1: I agree with that that unknown it's it's a lot
Speaker 1: to invest in that I'm going to take a plunge.
Speaker 1: He's thirty years and I get it. I understand the
Speaker 1: VLO was down. This elbow thing is real, he was
Speaker 1: expell It's risky territory. I understand that all the underlying
Speaker 1: numbers for him were very good. The strikeouts were still there,
Speaker 1: the extract is there. But Greg, I'm telling you I
Speaker 1: watched every start because I own him in multiple places.
Speaker 1: Something was not right with him. Now, look, if he
Speaker 1: shows that in the spring, then I understand why people
Speaker 1: why people will get back on board. And this is
Speaker 1: why you draft early, because you can get that discount now.
Speaker 1: But he can also go the other way as well.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying, like, in terms of risk reward,
Speaker 1: there's nobody who carries more of both of those. And
Speaker 1: Chris Sale in the third round right now, he carries
Speaker 1: the most risk, but he also carries the highest reward.
Speaker 1: I have to say, and like, no, he's still got
Speaker 1: into the reds, but I have those out there. You
Speaker 1: and I talked before about understanding the auction right nailing
Speaker 1: guys that can produce first round value sale, isn't that mold?
Speaker 1: Chris Tecation is number one overall pure The person who
Speaker 1: won our g d D fifteen team auction league last
Speaker 1: year took the chance on Clayton Kershaw, and look how
Speaker 1: it worked out. With that being said, Kershaw was more
Speaker 1: of like a fifth round pick last year, and I
Speaker 1: think he got him for like fifteen sixteen bucks. Because
Speaker 1: for sale, you're still gonna have to say right now,
Speaker 1: you're not again for achieving the twenty five I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you right now. If he's going over the eighteen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mid nineteen. That's fair. But that to me,
Speaker 1: that equates to an eighteen nineteen dollar players more like
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. For a fifth round pick, that's fine,
Speaker 1: But I think once you get to like the twenty
Speaker 1: five dollar range, I'm not a big fan of the
Speaker 1: second and third round starting pitchers. This is I don't
Speaker 1: know that I've revealed it on the air before, but
Speaker 1: I've been diving deep into pitching. I'm really I'm don't
Speaker 1: want my top thirty rankings as of now. Greg A,
Speaker 1: this like you wanted you on the air. You wanted
Speaker 1: to be like that several notes here. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: really I think this is the year that I'm going
Speaker 1: to dive into the first round starting pitchers. I want
Speaker 1: one of those top three aces Verlander, Um, one of
Speaker 1: the ground one of Garrick Cole, and then kind of
Speaker 1: come back around in that fourth round range. I really
Speaker 1: like Charlie Morton this year. I think Zach Ranky disrespected
Speaker 1: once again this year. I think that there's upside for
Speaker 1: a bounce back into a synder Guard and Luis Severinos.
Speaker 1: So I like that fourth, fifth round ranger starting pitchers
Speaker 1: to me, the second and third round, the second rounder specifically,
Speaker 1: it seems like you're drafting these guys that they're ceiling. Clevinger,
Speaker 1: Shane Bieber, Walker, Bueller. I get it there, Young and
Speaker 1: maybe there's another step maybe, but it seems like you're
Speaker 1: drafting these guys that they're ceiling. And then the third
Speaker 1: round with Blake Snell for sale. The reward again it's high,
Speaker 1: but the risk is is also very evident there. Greg, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. We'll see what he
Speaker 1: goes for. I'm excited somebodyself pushing for him. We'll say
Speaker 1: this Fring goes I want to. The first NFBC auction
Speaker 1: took place last night, so I just want to pull
Speaker 1: up and see how much Chris Sale went for. You
Speaker 1: can pull that off from me. So he went for
Speaker 1: and that's the first auction. So people are thinking similarly
Speaker 1: to you, and if you can get him at that discount,
Speaker 1: you want to be involved. But for example, Shane Bieber
Speaker 1: went for twenty nine, give me Bieber for two more,
Speaker 1: two more dollars. Who is safer? Safer in my opinion
Speaker 1: than Chris Sale doesn't have the two dollar discount. I
Speaker 1: think you you can, you'll ask, people can get different answers, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, but I prefer the safety early on it.
Speaker 1: And to me, Shane Bieber is I think picture list
Speaker 1: things about that. We'll have to get our buddy Pollic
Speaker 1: on to what to talk about that. I would like
Speaker 1: to know. Walker Bueller went for thirty nine. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's very small. So that's why I'm trying to like
Speaker 1: peak in forty three. Garrett Cole goes for forty six.
Speaker 1: Is giving an issue? Dustin Verlander goes for thirty seven.
Speaker 1: Hang Nang found our guy. Greg found the guy. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll come back. We'll hit on the Reds. We'll get
Speaker 1: more to the Reds tomorrow because I want to spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time on this. But we'll we'll just
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Speaker 1: All right, final three minutes program? Three questions in three minutes?
Speaker 1: We're Back's happening? Oh it's my earpiece? That what it is?
Speaker 1: Your ear piece? Because I hear you perfectly find Greg. Alright,
Speaker 1: you're here live on the Sports Cared TV network. This
Speaker 1: is earpieces going in and out here. All right, do
Speaker 1: you have three questions in three minutes? Great? He doesn't soundly.
Speaker 1: You have three questions, so we have a lot to
Speaker 1: talk about when it comes to the Reds, Right, So
Speaker 1: you want to do that now, you want to say
Speaker 1: it tomorrow. It's big, you know. Yeah. I don't want
Speaker 1: to rush it by any means. I would like to
Speaker 1: spend my time. And I did a lot of research
Speaker 1: on not just Nick Cassiano, who joined the Reds, but
Speaker 1: all the other pieces that are kind of affected here
Speaker 1: with Nick Senzel, Aka Yama and RS and Michael Stockis.
Speaker 1: So I'm very interested in the Cincinnati Reds, a lot
Speaker 1: of pieces of the moves. I guess I'll just ask
Speaker 1: three questions in three minutes based on what we're just
Speaker 1: talking about in the NFBC. In the auction that just
Speaker 1: took place last night, I'm gonna play you tell me
Speaker 1: how much they went for? Ready, Um, the board that
Speaker 1: I'm looking at doesn't have everybody, but it has a
Speaker 1: lot of the big name players, So I will try.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do something right. Austin Meadows, Austin Meadows
Speaker 1: went for a pretty penny last night. He went for
Speaker 1: thirty dollars, which is the same price as Bryce Harper
Speaker 1: and one dollar more than J. D. Martinez. That's too
Speaker 1: much money, Frank, I love Austin Meadows, and I agree
Speaker 1: that is too much money. George Springer go for more
Speaker 1: or less than that. George Springer went for less twenty
Speaker 1: four dollars. I need, come on, six dollars. I don't
Speaker 1: like George Springer. I'm not gonna be last year either.
Speaker 1: I didn't. Maybe it looks stupid, that's right, so we're
Speaker 1: not going back. Yeah, but he also doesn't have trash
Speaker 1: Cansas here, gregor buzzers or anything. It was really good
Speaker 1: last year. He was very good. I want to buy
Speaker 1: a player off a career gear, Greg, I mean he
Speaker 1: was good last year. Two Like, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: like Gewarge Springer. I haven't done the research. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I like George um one more. Lucas Gilida. Lucas Gilito
Speaker 1: went four. I just saw his name. Twenty five dollars
Speaker 1: seems there. Yes, so two dollars less than Chris Sale.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I had to equate that too around
Speaker 1: it's in a fifteen teamer. That's a three four swing
Speaker 1: kind of guy, and that's basically where he's been going.
Speaker 1: Late third, early fourth round for Lucas Gilito as more
Speaker 1: often than that team's SP two's. So it's twenty five dollars.
Speaker 1: I don't love the price, particularly Za Granky. Twenty dollars,
Speaker 1: give me that, Greg, No, Syndergard, it's twenty one dollars.
Speaker 1: I mean I got an out of worth a lot
Speaker 1: of research to do. We need your help to deal,
Speaker 1: all right, Wait, your talk is up next, followed by
Speaker 1: at the window for Frankstanple. I'm Gregg Sousman. Will do
Speaker 1: it all in tomorrow, we hope.