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Speaker 2: Hour two on this Thursday Basketball Tonight, Okase is favored

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Speaker 2: by six. On the road, it was four and a half.

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Speaker 2: And I think maybe the fact that we're not quite

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Speaker 2: sure about Tyrese Halliburton his availability. I know that Vegas

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Speaker 2: thirteen and a half. The question is if he plays,

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Speaker 2: how much he plays, and then what does Okayse do

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Speaker 2: to retaliate? And I'd go right at him right from

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Speaker 2: official trading cards The Dan Patrick Show. Good morning, if

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Speaker 2: Why now, Genie Buss the family sells the Lakers to

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Speaker 2: Mark Walter the part of the Dodger ownership for ten

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Speaker 2: billion dollars. Dan Woiki, he is the Lakers beat writer

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Speaker 2: La Times joining us on the program. Dan, thanks for

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Speaker 2: joining us. Why sell? Why sell?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 4: The only answer I've been able to come up with

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Speaker 4: and it's it's an interesting thing because that'll be the

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Speaker 4: thing that we learn here over the next few weeks,

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Speaker 4: a few months and stuff. No one from the Lakers

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Speaker 4: is still set a peep about this, right MATG. Sjohnson

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Speaker 4: kind of was the de facto spoke person. He's the

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Speaker 4: person that has you know, hands in the Mark Walter

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Speaker 4: cap obviously very close to Genie Buss. So we don't

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Speaker 4: totally know why. Here's what we do know. We know

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Speaker 4: that to sell the team, the way that the ownership

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Speaker 4: thing is structured, after doctor Jerry Buss died, a majority

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Speaker 4: of his six children needed to vote to sell, and

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Speaker 4: that majority never existed until yesterday. So that is I

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Speaker 4: think the interesting thing, right, is that always Genie was

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Speaker 4: running the team. You know, Jim was involved with the team.

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Speaker 4: He was the sort of executive. Bath Operations famously tried

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Speaker 4: the team. In twenty seventeen, the older siblings Johnny and

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Speaker 4: involved in the scouting department. These are people that have

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Speaker 4: so I think that's kind of what's what we're learning

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Speaker 4: out that way. It's an interesting not to get like

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Speaker 4: an interesting like part of the way their ownership is structured.

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Speaker 4: This was always sort of inevitable the way the deal

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Speaker 4: to die, it's not like those shares go to next

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Speaker 4: of kin. The tide just gets smaller. It goes from

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Speaker 4: It just it's a lot of money there. It's a

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Speaker 3: What's it mean for the Laker fan.

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Speaker 4: I think it's probably good news. It's a little less charming, right.

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Speaker 4: I think that was one of the things about the

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Speaker 4: you know, Genie bus and you could you used to

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Speaker 4: a very public person. I mean, it's a family business.

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Speaker 4: It truly is a family business, and I think it

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Speaker 4: it's fair to look to the Dodgers, right, And I'm

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Speaker 4: not I'm not suggesting they're going to pay show Heyo Tani,

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Speaker 4: Like that's not how this really works in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: But what you can do is you can pour that

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Speaker 4: you can pour that money into development, pour that money

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Speaker 4: into the arena. You know, the Lakers. That's another crazy

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Speaker 4: part of this deal, Dan, The Lakers don't own property.

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Speaker 4: It is like a brand, right, that is what you're

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Speaker 4: buying a lot of times when these evaluations come up

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Speaker 4: for teams, it's you know, they own their arena. Part

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Speaker 4: of the Warriors evaluation is they've got a huge piece

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Speaker 4: not the Lakers. The Lakers are at least the play

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Speaker 4: inside of Crypto dot com. Like, so this is a

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Speaker 4: fuel for the prean But but I think it's fair

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Speaker 4: to think that Mark Walter, the way that they've operated

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Speaker 4: the Dodgers, they're going to pour money into this in

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Speaker 4: all the places they can to give the team the

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Speaker 2: But you know, in baseball, you can overspend, can spend, yes,

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Speaker 2: State Warriors did there for a while where they didn't

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Speaker 4: Yes, right, yeah, and so yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 4: that part of it is overstated, right, Like, Look, the

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Speaker 4: Lakers were in the luxury tax. They're repeatedly in the

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Speaker 4: luxury tax. You can point to a couple of times

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Speaker 4: And obviously that was bad decision, I think. But I

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Speaker 4: mean they're paying. They're not afraid to fire coaches and

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Speaker 4: that's not the issue. I will say when you talk

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Speaker 4: the thing, the sort of really direct way people describe

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Speaker 4: small things like they've been getting better at some of

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Speaker 4: the smaller things. But I think it's fair to point

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Speaker 4: things like beefing up a scouting department, you know, putting

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Speaker 4: much better. And I think that's a place where Mark

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Speaker 4: I think you can see a difference.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Dan Woik, the Lakers beat writer for the

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Speaker 2: La Times, what kind of moves in the off season

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Speaker 2: with the Lakers do you see?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I didn't see new owner. I do see

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Speaker 4: new center. I think new Center is the is the

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Speaker 4: most obvious one. I know. You know the Lakers have

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Speaker 4: spoken with Luka Doncic multiple times kind of what that

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Speaker 4: they know that's a position they need. Right. It's an

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Speaker 4: interesting kind of team building exercise for them because they

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Speaker 4: don't have a ton of assets. Stop me if you

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Speaker 4: heard this before about the Lakers. They need to get

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Speaker 4: They've Dalton Connect, the first round pick from last year.

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Speaker 4: They've got some pick swops. This is I mean, this

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Speaker 4: is what they traded for Mark Williams before they staw

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Speaker 4: the physical right, so they have some stuff. I would

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Speaker 4: be looking at centers like kind of like Mark Williams

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Speaker 4: around the NBA though that has been sort of their type, right,

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Speaker 4: So like Jalender and anyakakong Wu in Atlanta, Walker Castler

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Speaker 4: the next future. Now, whether or not any of these

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Speaker 4: players are available, Dan another thing, and do the Lakers,

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Speaker 4: you know, if you're not available, Like do the Lakers

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Speaker 4: have a ten billion dollar offer to make for Walker Kessler.

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Speaker 4: They don't, you know, unless they're going to trade Austin Reeves,

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Speaker 4: and they've shown no indication that they are going to

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Speaker 4: trade Austin Reeves. They believe in Austin Reeves. Lukadacich believes

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Speaker 4: in Austin Reeves. The best Dallas Maverick teams with Lukadacic

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Speaker 3: A big What about Lebron's future?

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Speaker 4: I mean, boy, you know, well, we know he's not

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Speaker 4: I think he is good enough to keep playing. He

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Speaker 4: had the player option at the end of this month,

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Speaker 4: early signs where that he would accept it. He may

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Speaker 4: finishing his career as a Laker, and he's not done.

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Speaker 4: He was an All NBA player last year, played some

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Speaker 4: of the best defense I've seen him play as a

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Speaker 4: Laker for a stretch, kind of that January to March stretch.

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Speaker 4: Then got hurt. I think the knee injury Dan is

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Speaker 4: hasn't really dealt with something like this, And so you know,

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Speaker 4: as a forty year old, I'm a guy who woke

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Speaker 4: up this morning with a sore elbow. Somehow like this

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Speaker 4: happens at age Dan, and he yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you. I know you're on vacation,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know you're ever truly the.

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Speaker 4: Surface of the sun here in Scottsdale, Arizona. Dan, it's

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Speaker 4: it's a two hundred and fifty degrees.

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Speaker 3: You're not truly on vacation. If you cover the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Never never not allowed to be Thank you, Dan makes sense,

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Speaker 2: Dan Wyki, he covers the Lakers for the LA Times.

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Speaker 2: That's one of those where and I remember trying to

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Speaker 2: take vacations when I would work at Sports Center. Then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden something would happen. Then somebody would

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Speaker 2: say where are you? And I knew what that meant.

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Speaker 2: Are you capable of coming in to do Sports Center? Hey,

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Speaker 2: such and such just happened? Where are you? And then

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Speaker 2: my wife knew whenever I'd get the call and be like, uh.

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Speaker 3: Gotta go do Sports Center.

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Speaker 2: I got to leave you with these four kids under

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Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, depending on which NBA team you're a beat

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Speaker 6: writer for, you could plan your vacation in late April, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: maybe May, maybe June. Oh, and the draft coming up. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: there's a couple of players I'm curious about. One is

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Speaker 6: one is Ace Bailey played at Rutgers.

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Speaker 2: Now there's starting to get some information that's coming on

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Speaker 3: He's dropping a little bit here.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's one of those guys who is unbelievably athletic.

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Speaker 2: First of all, they had him listed at six'. Ten

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Speaker 2: Can we stop? Doing that because if everybody knows that you're,

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Speaker 2: doing it can we? Just stop, you, know like he's, Six,'

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Speaker 2: ten no he's six, He's six eight but you're and

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Speaker 2: he Was on a rutgers team, that You Know had

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Speaker 2: ron harper's, son on it, And You know dylan harper

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Speaker 3: PLAYER take it, i Don't Know but.

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Speaker 2: Ace bailey is dropping a little bit and Some of

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Speaker 2: the some of the scouts are saying, he's not prepared.

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Speaker 2: He's showing up certain teams might not want to play

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Speaker 2: for but it. Might get interesting this is where he

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Speaker 3: Get A Bargain, with ace bailey.

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Speaker 2: Who's very talented but you're not that talented Because You

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Speaker 2: and dylan harper didn't get your TEAM into, the ncaa

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Speaker 2: tournament which is almost impossible to do if you have

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Speaker 2: two guys who are, a lottery bid two guys who

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Speaker 2: are probably. Top five. Picks Uh. Bad brendan haywood HE.

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Speaker 2: Covers the nba he won a Title With. The dallas mavericks,

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Speaker 2: he'll join, Us coming Up Tony, In, la hi tony

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Speaker 2: what's on?

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Speaker 7: Your?

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Speaker 3: Mind.

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Speaker 8: Today hey dan dodger fans are kind of upset About

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Speaker 8: this because dodger fans have been paying exorbitant prices for the,

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Speaker 8: past ten years and now they find out they've been

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Speaker 8: stashing money To. Buy, the lakers Like what do? Dodger

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Speaker 8: fans care Who? Owns the lakers their money's Going to.

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Speaker 8: The bus family Hopefully they lowered dodger Prices and raised

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Speaker 8: laker Prices and the laker fans could Pay back the

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Speaker 8: walter for, buying their Team because the dodger fans don't

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Speaker 8: want to do it anymore now they find out what's.

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Speaker 8: Been going on and now we hear they may have

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Speaker 8: to build a new arena because that arena is no

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Speaker 8: good and hopefully they're not They're not using dodger money

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Speaker 2: Well it probably all comes from the same, Cookie. Jar

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Speaker 2: THERE tony but i understand why you would be upset

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Speaker 2: when you realize you you bought a brand for. Ten

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Speaker 2: billion dollars you don't. Get The building goilden state, Has

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Speaker 2: the building you got that Property There. In san francisco

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Speaker 2: you bought a brand for. Ten billion dollars that is.

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Speaker 2: A powerful Brand. Mark In, Virginia Hi, mark.

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Speaker 9: Hey dan earlier you're Talking About And Steph. Lee's golden

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Speaker 9: state they're not going TO be probably i. Looked as

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Speaker 9: valuable my question is Where do the bulls stit in

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Speaker 9: with that? Analogy As well, since jordan's retired are the

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Speaker 10: A worldwide brand.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're. A worldwide, brand i mean if

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Speaker 3: You do, see bulls gear it's, FROM the nineties i

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Speaker 3: don't think Anybody Was buying josh giddy gear Unless. You're

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Speaker 3: in Australia Even, WITH billy donovan i mean they've been.

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Speaker 3: Kind of average you, make the PLAYOFF but, they're i

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Speaker 3: mean it goes away because they're NOT.

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Speaker 2: On national tv people aren't Talking, about the bulls and

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Speaker 2: the same thing Will Happen. With golden state you're just

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Speaker 2: not going to have that. Tune, IN factor yeah.

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Speaker 7: I THINK that the nba has something that's interesting that

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Speaker 7: it has a larger international audience for sure than probably

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Speaker 7: any other sport that we Play In. The united states

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Speaker 7: but the basketball jersey is such a. Fashion like statement

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Speaker 7: maybe it's something that you wear because you like the way,

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Speaker 7: that it looks and then having different. Ones is appealing

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Speaker 7: so you'll always sell a CERTAIN portion, of nba jerseys

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Speaker 7: whether they're, new or old just based on the fact

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Speaker 7: that people. Like WEARING them and i don't know that

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Speaker 7: you don't really do that as much with a baseball

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Speaker 2: You, definitely do yeah you'll see guys who, will wear

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Speaker 2: throwback jersey whereas you're not going to Have, A random

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Speaker 2: hey i'm going To get. A cowboys jersey Are you? A? Cowboy, Fan.

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Speaker 11: NO yes marvin i think another thing IS also the

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Speaker 11: nba was so big on promoting the stars and. Not

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Speaker 11: the teams do you think that ended UP hurting the

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Speaker 11: nba when trying to. Build, NEW brands.

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Speaker 3: Well i think You were. A Bulls fan the bulls.

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Speaker 2: HAD a, Brand i mean michael, had a Brand but

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Speaker 2: the bulls had a brand and that resonated. Around The

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Speaker 2: world the lakers that brand When you Had, shaq and

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Speaker 2: kobe that resonated.

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Speaker 3: Around the World, but the, bulls you.

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Speaker 12: Know they're.

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Speaker 2: NONDESCRIPT nobody cares i don't even know how you know

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Speaker 2: how highly they're Thought of in chicago because there's no.

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Speaker 2: REAL pulse, there i mean it's not hard to sell out,

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Speaker 2: know if that's a great, indicator of boy that's still.

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Speaker 2: A strong brand i never Hear. About, The, Bulls yeah paul.

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Speaker 6: And in basketball your brand can change in one day.

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Speaker 12: With.

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Speaker 6: One Person Yeah the orlando magic, went from hey this new. Boom,

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Speaker 6: shack worldwide Instance when when lebron Went. Back to cleveland

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Speaker 6: they went back to relevancy.

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Speaker 2: In shortan day but that's where it would make Me

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Speaker 2: Nervous with golden state's evaluation because it just seems fluid

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Speaker 2: that if you, don't have stars what? Do you Have

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Speaker 2: And if golden state all, of a SUDDEN even though i,

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Speaker 2: love the jerseys but if they all of a sudden become,

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Speaker 2: An average team i'm a. Forty win team is that

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Speaker 2: fan base still going to be there because. You're showing

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Speaker 2: something we had never.

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Speaker 3: Seen before on. A basketball floor you're not going.

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Speaker 2: To have that you may have an owner who still wants,

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Speaker 2: to spend money, but even then with, the new restrictions

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Speaker 2: you're not able to do that the way.

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Speaker 3: They once did they were. Like luxury tax. We don't

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Speaker 3: care we're trying.

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Speaker 2: To. Win championships here we'll. Take a break we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to more. Basketball coming up more phone.

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Speaker 3: Calls as.

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Speaker 2: Well good morning if You're, watching on peacock thank you for.

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Speaker 2: Marvin just found this graphic and it says getting ready for.

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Speaker 2: The game tonight it, says game day and It's Got

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Speaker 2: three indiana. Pacers, on it well in case you're wondering

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Speaker 2: Of the three paers, Who Were there tyrese halliburton is

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Speaker 2: not part of tonight's game six graphic that says the

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Speaker 2: matchup and then it's going TO be on abc At.

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Speaker 3: Eight thirty eastern are we supposed to?

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Speaker 2: Read into That Marvin was tyrese halliburton on that graphic

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Speaker 2: that they'll show when they're promoting the game of the? Previous,

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Speaker 2: five games, indeed he was.

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Speaker 3: M mm hmmm i thought they were trying to.

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Speaker 11: SPREAD the wealth i was trying to give him the benefit.

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Speaker 11: Of The, doubt but nope who do we?

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Speaker 2: Have in this We Have Nemhard nie Smith Siakam or miles.

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Speaker 3: Turner In, There.

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Speaker 11: Miles Turner Nie.

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Speaker 2: Smith Siakam okay brendan haywood won a Championship. With the

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Speaker 2: mavericks HE WORKS. For NBA tv should i Read into

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Speaker 2: That Brendan that tyrese halliburton isn't part of the promotional aspect.

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Speaker 3: OF game six i.

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Speaker 13: Think you can't i'm not saying definitely for but there

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Speaker 13: probably is a little bit of skepticism on.

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Speaker 10: The pacer side this. Is their superstar we're talking.

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Speaker 13: About a, calf type injury and anytime you start going

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Speaker 13: to that caf type injury and trying to, play through

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Speaker 13: it you have to think all the way back to

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Speaker 13: What Happened to kevin durant when he Played through his

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Speaker 13: and sometimes even THOUGH It's, the nba finals even though it's,

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Speaker 13: a huge moment you have to think big picture and

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Speaker 13: if this is a, serious calf injury you do not

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Speaker 13: want a calf injury to turn into something a. Lot

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Speaker 13: more serious i'm not one, hundred percent sure but there's

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Speaker 13: definitely conversations being had Right Now about tyre's halliburn's health

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Speaker 13: because he did not look right.

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Speaker 10: In game five could.

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Speaker 3: You see a scenario where he. Doesn't.

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Speaker 13: Play tonight yes if he goes out there and he

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Speaker 13: tests the calf and he, can't move well then you

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Speaker 13: have to, shut him down no matter how big. The

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Speaker 13: game is if we go back to what happened earlier,

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Speaker 13: In these Playoffs I'm sure steph curry Wanted to play

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Speaker 13: grade one and a. Half hamstring injury you have to

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Speaker 13: protect the player, sometimes from himself and you have to

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Speaker 13: think about long term of what could happen if you

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Speaker 13: come back and you're not right and you do more

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Speaker 13: damage to a.

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Speaker 10: Soft tissue injury.

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Speaker 3: Could it be a good Thing for the pacers if.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't, play absolutely.

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Speaker 13: Not absolutely Not They need, tyre's halliburn man and they need,

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Speaker 13: him healthy too not just out there with. His jersey

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Speaker 13: on they need him out there, creating a, problem pushing

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Speaker 13: tempo getting in the, pick and, roll getting downhill getting two.

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Speaker 13: Feet into paint he doesn't always have, to score it

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Speaker 13: but he has to be a part. Of the problem

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Speaker 13: and if he's not right or not, able to play

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Speaker 13: it's going to. Be really tough just look AT what

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Speaker 13: this okc team is done defensively as far As turning.

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Speaker 13: The pacers over think about How many turnover think about

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Speaker 13: how men turnovers they'll have They'll.

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Speaker 10: Force if tyree's. Haliburn, doesn't play YEAH but IF.

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Speaker 2: I am tj McConnell out there, handling THE ball then

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Speaker 2: i keep It away From Nemhard and nie smith because they.

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Speaker 2: Were a, turnover you know they were turning the ball

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Speaker 2: OVER there, AND i wonder i don't want him out

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Speaker 2: there if he's fifty. OR sixty percent i don't want

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Speaker 2: you to be a hero and be it and evens

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Speaker 2: a detriment. To the team in the second half of,

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Speaker 2: THAT last game i Was Surprised that rick carlisle put.

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Speaker 2: Him out there you're down double. Digits, at halftime.

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Speaker 13: Well you' also have to understand guys get used, to

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Speaker 13: a Guy, Like Nim, hard nie SMITH more, importantly tj

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Speaker 13: McConnell you just. Brought him up he's used to playing

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Speaker 13: a certain. Amount of minutes he plays with a certain.

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Speaker 13: Level of energy he's always. Pushing and probing he's not

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Speaker 13: used to playing forty minutes, forty five minutes and so

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Speaker 13: like he's exhausted after that third quarter he. Was he's

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Speaker 13: tired so, Now, it's like okay we're Trying. To get

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Speaker 13: halliburton then maybe we'll get McConnell back. In the game

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Speaker 13: puts everybody in. A different role so now you look

433
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 13: at A guy. Like tj McConnell instead of him being,

434
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 13: the energy guy now he has to come in and. Start,

435
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 13: right away now who's gonna be the point? Guard behind

436
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 13: him now we're getting even deeper into, that PACER's bench

437
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 13: and that's what. The PROBLEM is but i do, agree

438
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 13: with you if hallow burden, is fifty Percent he should

439
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 13: he probably shouldn't go out there because he probably can't.

440
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 10: Help the team Who does j sga?

441
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 3: Remind you of.

442
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 13: He not, apples for apples but if you look at

443
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 13: what he does in, the mid range a lot of

444
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 13: times he has The. Footwork of kobe i'm Not. SAYING

445
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,479
Speaker 13: he's kobe i don't Want nobody on twitter. COMING from

446
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 13: ME i know i know how people how sensitive people

447
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 13: get about their stars from back. In the day but

448
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 13: when you look, at the footwork the, up and unders

449
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 13: the pump fakes, and everything else he Reminds. Me of

450
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 13: kobe and he lives in that mid Range. Like a

451
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 13: kobe kobe wasn't really a great three point shoot if

452
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 13: you look, at the, numbers but man what he did

453
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 13: in the mid range with special and that's Kind of

454
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 13: what sga. Reminds me of but a new school version

455
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 13: because he's more he's like a point.

456
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 2: Guard As Well and moan schumpert was with us yesterday

457
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 2: And he said.

458
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 3: KOBE as well.

459
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 10: I mean it's.

460
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 13: EASY to see i mean there's some there's some there's some,

461
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 13: video out there the footwork, side by side, and, you're like.

462
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 10: Wow it's scary you can tell That He.

463
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 13: Studied kobe bryant he watched a Lot of what kobe

464
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 13: does and he's just perfected that. Mid range game Shout

465
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 13: Out to sam cassell who actually started him down that

466
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 13: path his rookie year when he Was. With The clippers

467
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 13: and sam was one of the best mid range guys

468
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 13: from back. In THE day and sga has always worked

469
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 13: on his mid range Game Ever since sam cassell put

470
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 13: him in that space and and it's really.

471
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 10: Really showing today.

472
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 2: So You, played with Lebron, played with Michael? Played, against

473
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 2: kobe yeah how would how would you? Assess those players.

474
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 13: All great Players kobe and michael were one and the

475
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 13: same as, far, as game. Mentality everything else lebron is,

476
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 13: a different, entity not, better not worse but his thought

477
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 13: process and how he sees the. Game is Different Kobe

478
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 13: and Michael. Carbon copies lebron lebron is is different and

479
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 13: even how he from the way he put the way

480
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 13: he sees the game the way he goes about things

481
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 13: on and. Off the, Court, You know Michael michael and.

482
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 13: Kobe are, cutthroat you know if you ain't if You

483
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 13: Can't help, michael jordan win he really ain't got No

484
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 13: time for i'm trying TO tell you i saw. That

485
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 13: first hend if You Can't help michael jordan, win basketball

486
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 13: game he don't have any, time for you and he

487
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 13: will say it directly. To Your face lebron james is

488
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 13: a little. Bit more diplomatic he might send you a subtle.

489
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 13: A subtle message he might try to see if you'll slowly.

490
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 13: Pick It up and i've got to see that firsthand

491
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 13: With Him and Kyrie Irving, and dion waiters and he

492
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 13: he was trying to coach them to see if they

493
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 13: would eventually figure out how to win. At this level mike's.

494
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: Not that tight but we keep trying to make that comparison,

495
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 2: or that Argument, and It's. Michael it's lebron can you

496
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 2: make A case that kobe is every bit The equal

497
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 2: that michael is and then maybe he should be involved?

498
00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: In that, discussion, IS.

499
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 10: Well man I see that you're gonna get.

500
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 4: Me.

501
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 10: In trouble, man you know you know how sensitive people Are.

502
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 13: ABOUT their God I, love kobe bryant, rest in peace

503
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 13: one of the BEST players that i. Ever played against

504
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 13: but when you start, nitpicking the stars you Probably can't

505
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 13: put kobe in the Same level As michael and lebron

506
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 13: when you look at, the total MVPs when you look

507
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 13: at just even the when you look, at the finals

508
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 13: you have to go look At some of kobe's earlies

509
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 13: finals performances against the nets that. Wasn't really, great you

510
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 13: know He had big fellow with him early on. IN

511
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 13: his career i mean that that counts for a lot

512
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 13: when you got the when you got the big, dog

513
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 13: in there.

514
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 3: He, was the SHACK was the mvp of the.

515
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 10: First THREE finals So.

516
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 13: I love kobe he is top, Ten FOR sure but

517
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 13: i think when you talk about the best three players,

518
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 13: of all time it's Actually, Not it's Mike.

519
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 10: Bron and kareem, in, My opinion.

520
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah kareem might be the greatest player.

521
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: Of ALL time if i, in, high school COLLEGE, in

522
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 2: the nba he might be the. Greatest greatest, player you

523
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: know single handedly had a move, that was unstoppable and

524
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: he won everywhere, That HE went and i kind of. Find,

525
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: him underrated brandon it's weird to say that we kind

526
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: Of forget because kareem won a title and it really

527
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: wasn't you Know when When larry and, magic came IN that's,

528
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: when tv Started and then, mike came in, and you

529
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: know it JUST. Changed the nba those who played, prior

530
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: to that some of those championships and their.

531
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 3: Greatness, was lost, yeah YOU.

532
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 10: Know, Like, i said, kareem you know he had The.

533
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 13: Championship, in milwaukee then like, You talked About magic and

534
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 13: larry took the game. To another level and then you

535
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 13: also have to look at The fact that kareem wasn't loved,

536
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 13: by the media so he doesn't get he never got,

537
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 13: the same, push you know and so. It's different now

538
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 13: There was no internet and There was no twitter or anything.

539
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 13: Else like that media had to push you to, a

540
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 13: Certain degree and koree didn't, have that love so he

541
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 13: didn't get pushed quite like some of the other stars back. In,

542
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 13: the day yeah don't. Get it twisted, like you said that's.

543
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 13: A good.

544
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 10: Point, was unstoppable.

545
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a Great point that kareem didn't care if,

546
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: you liked him and he didn't go out of His way.

547
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: To curry favor We're Talking. To brendan haywood HE'S WORKING.

548
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: For nba tv you were A Teammate of dirk noavisky

549
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: his forty seventh, Birthday to, day oh.

550
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 10: Man happy birthday he dirt, GETTING old man.

551
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: I know that.

552
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 3: What's Your favorite? Dirk novitsky Story my?

553
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 10: Favorite dirk story.

554
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: And how many news did you take to your chest

555
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: when you were trying to guard him with that fade away.

556
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 13: JUMPER of his, i never really, You know what he

557
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 13: never really had to meet me. In the chest he

558
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 13: used to just get in my body, and fade away

559
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 13: and it used to just frustrate me that he would

560
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 13: get that jumper.

561
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 10: Off ON me but i Think my favorite dirk story

562
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 10: is WE'RE In.

563
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 13: The nba finals it's, before the finals and, because it

564
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 13: was it's my favorite story because it's Not really. Who

565
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 13: dirk is he has, that quiet confidence but the way

566
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 13: he said it made me look, at, him like okay

567
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 13: big fellas really with the smoke and we're Taking On

568
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 13: the big three and we're talking. About the game we're in,

569
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,239
Speaker 13: the locker room we're talking. About the matchup we're Going.

570
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 13: Against The heatos Obviously lebron D Wade and chris bosh, and,

571
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 13: we're like yeah what we're gonna do To Stop? The

572
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 13: big three and he's just like That ain't no big

573
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 13: three and we kind of, Look at, him.

574
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 10: We're like what.

575
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 13: Do you, Mean he's like i'm look at. It like

576
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 13: that if they Were really a big three, and off

577
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 13: season they would have came. And GOT me and, i,

578
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 13: was Like okay because dirk don't, talk like that so

579
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 13: like and he, Really meant it and AT that time

580
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 13: i didn't know he kind of had like a simmering

581
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 13: Beef with d wade from six and the guys kind

582
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 13: of caught me, up, on, it like yeah he don't

583
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 13: really have no Love, For d wade and so Like

584
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 13: to see dirk in that space and then to go

585
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 13: out there and do what he did. In, the finals

586
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 13: man That was my That's my favorite dirk store because

587
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 13: him talking like that is out of, character FOR him

588
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 13: and i like him.

589
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: In that space what's it like when you're behind shack

590
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: and somebody lobs it in and you know that he's

591
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: going to get the ball and then he's going to

592
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: turn right.

593
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: Into your chest it.

594
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 10: Is, the worst like it's the worst feeling. In The World.

595
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 13: Guarding Prime, SHACK prime Shack I mean dan I because

596
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 13: when i first got, Into the league SHACK was in

597
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 13: la And. Then, IN miami hey i never had fun

598
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 13: in THOSE cities because i never went out For The first, And,

599
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 13: god's like yo we're going. Out to, night i'm like.

600
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 13: I'LL see y'all i got a little something to. DEAL

601
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 13: with tomorrow i. CAN'T go out i will be embedd.

602
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 13: At nine o'clock because you have to Be. Ready for

603
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 13: shack you have to try to beat him, down the

604
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 13: court beat. Him to space but when to, answer your

605
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 13: question if he catches the ball in the paint with

606
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 13: two feet and, you're behind him you better wrap him

607
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 13: Up because big fella back in the day was. An absolute

608
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 13: problem he was gonna. Dunk that thing and the good

609
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 13: thing for ME is when i first got, into THE

610
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 13: league obviously I. Played with mj so, In those games

611
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 13: kobe would all always be trying to prove A. Point

612
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 13: To mj so shaq would wasn't even getting the ball

613
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 13: as Much did because kobe was trying to go off

614
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 13: LIKE and so, i was like at least it's, not my.

615
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 10: GUY you know i think he hit this.

616
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 13: For like forty in like A half in, La one

617
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 13: time so. It was crazy he was Trying to let

618
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 13: mike know that he's. The next one so a Lot

619
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 13: of times shaq didn't even get to get the ball

620
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 13: sometimes early on.

621
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: In My career so Kobe's going At mike when mike

622
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: is at the end of his Career.

623
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: With The wizards.

624
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 13: Actually Stackhouse, is GUARDING kobe and i love stack but

625
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 13: there was nothing he Could do with.

626
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 10: KOBE that, night i mean it was just he was.

627
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 13: On one because you could Tell he was He's playing

628
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 13: against mike and he Wants to let mike know and

629
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 13: almost kind of Like how ant man Wanted To let

630
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 13: kevin durant know what was.

631
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 10: Up last year that's.

632
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 13: How it was but it's just we're watching it and

633
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 13: it's we just can't believe this Dude Is going jerry

634
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 13: stackhouse is. Playing excellent defense Kobe's is just kobe is

635
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 13: just in one of Those zones nothing stacked can, do with, Him,

636
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 13: AND uh kobe i want to say He dropped four

637
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 13: and if it's not forty, with thirty five but between

638
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 13: thirty five and forty and a, half on.

639
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: Us what's the best performance You Ever witnessed.

640
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 10: Carmelo anthony SIXTY points when i Played For. The charlotte Huntings?

641
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 10: Did you carmelo did?

642
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: You guard, him.

643
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 10: Oh, No, Oh, No, mike gilchris oh, You know What i'm.

644
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 10: TRIPPING tracy.

645
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 13: McGrady i Forgot i forgot TRACY McGrady had i think He?

646
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 13: What was Tracy it's Either. Carmelo or tracy tracy had

647
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 13: SIXTY plus on Us, Two and carmelo and That was

648
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 13: when Tracy was In orlando and carmelo HAD. Sixty ON

649
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 13: us when i would uh, IN the garden i Would

650
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 13: probably say carmelo's because it was all mid Range jumpers

651
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 13: And michael kick gilchris got probably about forty of. Those

652
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 13: and So and when, carmelo gets. Hot there's nothing it's, all,

653
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 13: jab series, jabs pump fakes step. Through spin Moves it's when,

654
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 13: carmelo has sixty it's a lowed it's a loud sixty

655
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 13: because it's all one, On one ice so nobody's creating any.

656
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 10: Shots for him he is getting it all out the

657
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 10: mud and it is. A long Night.

658
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: We've had jalen rose on whenever, it's you know the

659
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: eighty one Point anniversary with Kobe and so we called him,

660
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: all the time AND he says i didn't guard him.

661
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: The whole game he goes people make It seem like

662
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 2: kobe got eighty one on me when They.

663
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: Were, playing, toronto.

664
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 13: Yeah listen you might not have guarded. The whole game

665
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 13: but if somebody gets drops, eighty and like let's just

666
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 13: say twenty five to thirty.

667
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 10: Of them, were on you, people gonna acteck the whole

668
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 10: eighty one.

669
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 13: Was on you just kind Of like when I'm talking

670
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 13: About carmelo And michael kid gilkers didn't get, the whole

671
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 13: sixty but he had to get knock thirty or, forty

672
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 13: of them thirty to forty.

673
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 10: Out of sixties it just feels like a.

674
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: Law all night i'm.

675
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 13: Still trying to figure out why we didn't start doubling,

676
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 13: the triple people but it is.

677
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 10: What it is.

678
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: Still, bothers you hey great to. Talk to you thanks, For,

679
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: JOINING us, brendan.

680
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 10: I, mean thanks man appreciate you. Having Me on.

681
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: Brendan haywood he won a Title, WITH the MAVs a

682
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: former first round Picked. By the, cavs you know You,

683
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: play with michael You, play with lebron play against.

684
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: THOSE other guys i never.

685
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: Understand that though when a guy, is going off and He's,

686
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: right about carmelo how about we take them all out

687
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: of his. HANDS once again i didn't, like playing defense,

688
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: couldn't PLAY defense but i. Did understand defense and part

689
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: OF it is i don't want the best guy.

690
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: To beat me.

691
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: That, guy is now if you can handle The ball,

692
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: like kobe could you're Gonna, get in mike you could,

693
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: Get your. Shots tracy McGrady carmelo wasn't a. Great ball

694
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: handler he was Just had unbelievable he had moves in.

695
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: A phone booth, they were small little moves and all

696
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: he needed was just like a sliver of daylight and

697
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: he was going to hit that.

698
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: Mid range jumper you.

699
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: Gotta work hard to get sixty in the mid range

700
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: Game because t mac was going up and. Down the floor,

701
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: but that's funny you're still. Thinking, About that Yeah mark t.

702
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 11: Mac is one of those guys, where, it's like man you.

703
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 11: Forgot his run he had about a five year window

704
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 11: where he was Right there with kobe as far as

705
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 11: who was the best offensive player.

706
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: In, the, League.

707
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah he was one of those guys where you,

708
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: were just like that's different and what he could, have

709
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 2: been like he's another one. Of those guys and maybe

710
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: it's not fair because you saw, that much talent but, you,

711
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: always go god he could have been. So Much better

712
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: anthony hardaway could have. Changed the game he really when you,

713
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: were watching, him you're going, oh my god it. Was

714
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: just different then. He got hurt obviously you had the

715
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: friction with. Him In Shack, but anthony hardaway who's Not

716
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: In the Basketball.

717
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: HALL of fame i don't think. He, is, not yeah

718
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 3: wow let me.

719
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: Take a break we will get to more phone calls

720
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: and Let's see What dad.

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00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 3: Air polt results, right after.

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Speaker 2: Com Chris, And, iowa hi chris what's on?

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Speaker 3: Your mind today.

733
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 5: Good morning guys how's?

734
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 8: It?

735
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: Going great great so the Thing about, The cowboys is

736
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: i'm just, kind of wondering Why are we why.

737
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 10: Are we talking?

738
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 5: About, him then so, like you know like when your

739
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 5: kid gets hurt and you're not supposed to look at

740
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 5: him because it just makes it worse and they get more.

741
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 5: Attention about it we're just feeding The ego of Jerry.

742
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 5: And the cowboys so maybe just one thing is let's

743
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 5: just not.

744
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 10: Talk about them that is?

745
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: That, a possibility no because they have all This data

746
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: AT fox and espn and all, these different networks and

747
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: it says people want to Hear. About the, cowboys that's why,

748
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: because you know the information says fans want to Hear. About,

749
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: the cowboys now we try To approach the cowboys, when

750
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: it's warranted not. All else fails let's Talk about the

751
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: cowboys because it's really doing a disservice to some of

752
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: the other stories that you. Could BE covering but i

753
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: get IT because when I, worked at espn we, Played The,

754
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 2: Hits red sox yankees, all The time tarot owens, All

755
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 2: The time mike tyson. All the, time you know, after

756
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: a while you just you're. Numb to it but that's what.

757
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: The networks Do they get they hire people who, accumulate

758
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: this information data analytics and tells you, what is trending

759
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: what you should.

760
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 3: Be, talking ABOUT yes.

761
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 7: And i think, that you know people hear what, you

762
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 7: just said and then they'll say Anytime that the cowboys,

763
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 7: say gets, mentioned, THEY'RE like oh i thought you weren't

764
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 7: going to Talk About the cowboys, and, you're like, Ohya,

765
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 7: hold on yeah what you're referring to Is a Random

766
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 7: tuesday in april Breaking down the cowboys secondary.

767
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: For no reason that's when you're.

768
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 7: Squeezing it in but when you're talking about iconic sports

769
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 7: brands selling for, billions Of dollars the cowboys are a

770
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 7: natural extension, of that conversation Just like the yankees, Are And,

771
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 7: yeah manchester. United they're all they're global brands that. Are,

772
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 7: globally recognized yea.

773
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: We will cover Lebron and The Browns and shador sanders,

774
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: and You Know the dallas cowboys. When IT'S warranted but

775
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: i don't go. Into the day we never go into

776
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: THE day going, i don't know let's just Talk.

777
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: About the. Cowboys WE don't but i know, that it

778
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 3: happens and.

779
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 2: You consume it if you're flipping through the dial and all,

780
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: of a Sudden YOU know Steven a or pat McAfee's Talking,

781
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 2: about the cowboys then. Maybe you'll stop if they're talking,

782
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: about something else you. MIGHT not stop. I understand it

783
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 2: i just can't go into my show every day going

784
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: we have to. Talk about This Remember when The Mothership

785
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 2: and skip bayliss they had To Talk. About Tim, tebow

786
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: doug gottlieb when He left the mothership said they were

787
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: told To Somehow incorporate tim tebow.

788
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: EVERY single day i.

789
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 10: Can't do that.

790
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: It's Not fun, and, i'm sure hey ratings would be

791
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: better if you're, TALKING about, that i guess but that's not.

792
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: What we do we've always done it because we feel

793
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: like it's important to do, that story today or have

794
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: a guest on. That story. Today that's All and the

795
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 2: cowboys would come up because. It's a brand we Just

796
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: had the lakers, beat reporter say you You Know that

797
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 2: mark walder bought a brand he didn't get. There's no

798
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: building he bought a brand for, Ten billion dollars So

799
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: what's the? Cowboys Brand worth the YANKEES brand, work i

800
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 2: mean that's that's why we went to THAT because, if

801
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: I mean the cowboys are worth more than ten billion dollars, in, My.

802
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: Opinion yes ton all, that being.

803
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 5: Said what's Going On with michael Parsons?

804
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 2: And, The cowboys yeah i'm glad you really.

805
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: Should address it you?

806
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: Know, you're, right, no no no get him. A new

807
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: contract you, Should, have said okay how about That? SHOOT

808
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: or sanders i thought they said. He wasn't fast he

809
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: just got pulled over for going one oh one.

810
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: In a sixty. That's, pretty fast yeah so what do

811
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: you want over?

812
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: The?

813
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: Speed, limit yeah yeah so, he's not, fast but yeah

814
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: you got a. Speeding, Ticket Yesterday, seriously michael parsons What, Do.

815
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: You yeah he's gonna be the highest paid NON quarterback.

816
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: In nfl HISTORY that's. All i Know alan And, dayton

817
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: high allen what's?

818
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: On?

819
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 3: Your, MIND hey.

820
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 12: Dan i have A topic that i think is, very

821
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 12: very petty of non consequence and really unimportant that. Really,

822
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 12: Bothers me therefore i'd like to get your, Thoughts on it,

823
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 12: and that is How can the pacers who have tyreees

824
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 12: With zero and benedict? Has double zero isn't zero and

825
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 12: double zero, the same number and so don't you have

826
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 12: two players out there at one time with.

827
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: The same number let me get some of my best.

828
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: People On, IT but alan i could understand why that. Would, Bother,

829
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: YOU yes ton i.

830
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: Don't think so doesn't the rule let we.

831
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 11: All have a single zero on. A double zero i

832
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 11: think that should determine if there are two separate Numbers.

833
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 6: In our paul ACCORDING, to the nba they changed the

834
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 6: rule back. In Two Thousand the Utah Jazz had greg,

835
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 6: oaster tag oh he. Had double zero he had to

836
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 6: change it to thirty nine because of old and polonies.

837
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 6: Having Oh, oh brendan haywood who we just had on

838
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 6: had to switch back, In The day.

839
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: Final hour, on the way, more phone calls more sharp,

840
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: insides like that and More Cowboys talk final Hour in

841
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: this thursday right after this