WEBVTT - Pricey Gifts and Freudian Slips

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back with another episode of Separation Anxiety. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host Marcus Jordan.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Larsta Pippen, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're talking life in love with Larcus. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talking a little bit about spending, habits, talking

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about jealousy and a whole myriad of things.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's jump into a babe.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm ready, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>So Katie Thurston from season seventeen of The Bachelor that

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<v Speaker 1>says she gifted her then boyfriend John Hershey of a

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<v Speaker 1>new van prior to their breakup. The couple had been

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<v Speaker 1>dating for six months they were living together when he

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<v Speaker 1>broke up with her. He was a bartender and aspiring

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<v Speaker 1>pilot and eventually paid her back for the van, but

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<v Speaker 1>it took a long time because it was expensive. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Katie says she'll never buy a man a present of

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<v Speaker 1>that caliber again. And So, a babe, what is the

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<v Speaker 1>most expensive gift you've bought your significant other?

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you're a married when you're dating, it's

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<v Speaker 2>two different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so talk about it. Let's talk. So.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that like when you're dating someone, you there's

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<v Speaker 2>like parameters, like you really shouldn't buy them a car.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I'm not going to say it like that. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I shouldn't say like that because I have gotten cars.

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<v Speaker 1>You've gotten cars, you've gotten You've received a lot of gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm saying for a girl, like I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's a woman. I would not buy my

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend a car. However, I have guys buy me cars.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess it's kind of like you.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about it from the woman's perspective, I'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it from the mass.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, So from a woman's perspective. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that I would buy a man a car if he's

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<v Speaker 2>just a boyfriend. I think if you're my husband, then

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<v Speaker 2>we share everything. You know, you can, I can give

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<v Speaker 2>you whatever you want. You're going to give me whatever

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<v Speaker 2>I want. But I think it's a woman. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think like men give better gifts than women.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, well, I think you know, for a man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, oftentimes that's your way of trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get noticed or you know, hook in your your girl

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<v Speaker 1>that you're dating, you know, And so there's been times

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<v Speaker 1>where I've spent you know, an abnormal amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>on trying to impress somebody or get somebody, get somebody's attention.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I wouldn't say I've bought any cars, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've gifted some things that were, you know, as expensive

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<v Speaker 1>as cars for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I feel like, I feel like you spent

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of money on my birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>I spent a lot of money on you every day.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, your birthday. Yeah, I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make it special for you. You know. Again, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you put a lot of value into those type of

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<v Speaker 1>sentimental dates and moments and stuff like that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like every day I'm trying to take things

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<v Speaker 1>up a notch. And so I do feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a guy, there is you know, after you started

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<v Speaker 1>dating or whatever your boyfriend girlfriend, I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a scale of like time spent together versus price and

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<v Speaker 1>value of the gifts. I feel like over time you

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<v Speaker 1>constantly have to outdo yourself, you know. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>start off with a million dollar gifts, by year five

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<v Speaker 1>of the relationship, you're up to five million dollars in gifts. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Am I wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? And so I just think that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>double standard when it comes to guy's gifting versus girls gifting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, my mom taught me this, and she said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what's the most important gift anyone can ever

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<v Speaker 2>give you? What's that time?

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like time is something. When someone gives

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<v Speaker 2>you their time, it's more valuable than a gift.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of women out there though, that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, are spending time with, you know, a deadbeat dude,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're looking for the other types of gifts. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't you get both?

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't I mean, sometimes the guy don't have it

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you know, so he's like, look, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give you all the time I got in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know we're struggling. We grind it together, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So he might not be able to buy that five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars bag or something like that. So in that scenario,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you would you still date that guy? I

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<v Speaker 1>think so if you was grinding towards something.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so I think that, Like I think like

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<v Speaker 2>if someone makes you feel good and they make you happy,

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<v Speaker 2>then that's like more important than any gift.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I don't think so I feel I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you know again, I think we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this on our last episode, Like you like a boss,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying, like a boss. But I also grew up. My

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<v Speaker 2>dad gave me everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad always gave me gifts. My dad took me

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<v Speaker 2>on shopping spreees like so for me love, Like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to show me love, you give me things

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes like I like it, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>like I have my mom who's the total opposite, and

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<v Speaker 2>my mom tells me that, like, these things are not

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<v Speaker 2>going to make you happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Larsa, I feel like there was maybe a point in

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<v Speaker 1>your life, especially when you stepped away from your previous marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>that like you were single, you know, and you've probably

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of suitors out there, and so sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>can you and I'm going to ask you this, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>can a woman get tired of too many gifts? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there such thing as too many gifts?

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<v Speaker 2>No, if it's from the right person now, but.

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<v Speaker 1>What if it's not. What if it's from gods just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to buy your love?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, sounds like a not It sounds like.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no such thing as too many gifts guys.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there's no such thing as too many gifts. But

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like people give you what they have to offer. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So some people have gifts to offer, some people have

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<v Speaker 2>time to offer, some people have, you know, love to offer.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like, you know, it's what they're offering

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<v Speaker 2>is at that point, and I feel like, you can,

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<v Speaker 2>you can have it all. Why can't you be with

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that's successful and giving. Yeah, there's nothing worse

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<v Speaker 2>than a guy that's successful and cheap.

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<v Speaker 1>Has there ever been a guy that was constantly giving

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<v Speaker 1>you gifts that you just knew you would never be

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<v Speaker 1>with no matter how many gifts?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so, Yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess and vice versa.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you did you feel like you had to

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<v Speaker 2>give girls gifts because of who you are?

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<v Speaker 1>So that's twofold. Oftentimes when I was dating, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was single and dating, you know, you kind of know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's going to be a long term relationship or

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<v Speaker 1>if it's like a fling, you know, And so I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like a lot of times in my flings, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would definitely give a lot of gifts just because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like you're trying to keep somebody happy,

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<v Speaker 1>also trying to maybe you know, buy a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of silence, not have people go in public, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because when you're dating you not necessarily, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>everybody meets the boyfriend girlfriend's standard. Am I am? I right?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, there was there were some flings

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<v Speaker 1>out there that maybe got some shoes or a bag

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, some clothes from trophy room or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And you know that's how I go That's

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<v Speaker 1>how I went back then got it. Now I'm saving

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<v Speaker 1>all my money so I can buy you the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I love you. That's okay, I love

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<v Speaker 2>you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever regretted buying something expensive for a partner?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I do, Yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we talk about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's up? Who was it? I mean, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>who was what was it?

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<v Speaker 2>I did give this guy a necklace, okay, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was from our jewelry.

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<v Speaker 1>Line okay, and Larsa Marie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it was kind of annoying because I like,

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<v Speaker 2>he ended up getting back with his ax and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like she would have taken the necklace. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you regret giving that necklace.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I kind of feel like it was very personal

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<v Speaker 2>because it was like it was like one of my

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<v Speaker 2>very first like chain necklaces I was making, like the

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<v Speaker 2>chain link necklaces that I love so much and my

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<v Speaker 2>logo on there, and it was just annoying to think,

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<v Speaker 2>like some other girl is going to be wearing a

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<v Speaker 2>necklace that I gave this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's kind of I could. I could see that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I've never really regretted. I've always given a

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<v Speaker 1>gift not expecting anything in return. You know. Obviously, you

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<v Speaker 1>can maybe insinuate or hope that there's you know, something

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to get in return. But once I

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<v Speaker 1>give a gift, I've given it, it's gone, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see, I'm very generous in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>when we go out with friends or you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>in our relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's given. Take. I think in any relationship

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<v Speaker 2>it's given. Takes. Some people, you know, you give things too,

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<v Speaker 2>they do other things for you. I think it's given take.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever had to give a gift back?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Never, never. Oh, I wasn't going to call you out

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<v Speaker 1>on that, one.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, so I did get it a g Wagon okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and then mm hmm, and I had to end up

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<v Speaker 2>giving it back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we won't. We won't necessarily get into the details.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't trying to put you on friend street.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I had a lot of cars. Someone gifted me

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of cars, and one of them was I

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<v Speaker 2>gave them all back and I kept the g Wagon.

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<v Speaker 1>And then but I also think that you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>to tell your story, but I also feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there might have been extra expectations put on the friendship,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily you know, sexually, but like you know, spending

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<v Speaker 1>time with somebody and you know, all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that you were in a position

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<v Speaker 1>that you wanted to do that, and so it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>better to give the gifts back versus like leading someone

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<v Speaker 1>in the direction you don't want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally, Yeah, I agree, But you know what my dad

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<v Speaker 2>always taught me. My dad literally has been telling me

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<v Speaker 2>this my whole life, like, people don't give you gifts

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<v Speaker 2>for nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've said that.

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<v Speaker 2>To you, and my dad always always used to say

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<v Speaker 2>this to me, and I would be like Oh, they're

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<v Speaker 2>just my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah and yeah, no, I mean, look for me as

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<v Speaker 1>a man, if you give a gift, you give a gift.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, don't. I wouldn't expect anything back,

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<v Speaker 1>and so would you expect or would they expect you

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<v Speaker 1>to pay something back? Have you ever been expected to

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<v Speaker 1>pay back something for a gift? No, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever met. No, I've never asked it. Like, that's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an insane So.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you a question. If you gave someone

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<v Speaker 2>an engagement ring and you guys broke up, would you

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<v Speaker 2>want the ring back?

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<v Speaker 1>Nah? Yeah, I feel like once I spend my money

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<v Speaker 1>on it, like it's in my mind, I've written it off,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gone, it's yours. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like that too, unless.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't given it to that person. For example, let'

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<v Speaker 1>say I bought an engagement ring and something happened and

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<v Speaker 1>now we're calling you know, not that we're calling engagement now,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're breaking up, and so yeah, I'm not mad

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<v Speaker 1>at taking the ring back at that you've never given it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to save it for the next woman

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get because she might like a different cut

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<v Speaker 1>of stone or something. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So anything else you want to add on this topic.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we can talk about this for a while. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel it's confidential a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I have to. But I do like the

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<v Speaker 2>way we are with each other because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we're both very generous with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we try to outdo each other's love

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<v Speaker 1>in different ways, you know, whether it's giving a gift

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<v Speaker 1>or a BackRub, or you know, surprising each other with

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<v Speaker 1>dinner or something like that. Like I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>are constantly trying to want up each other. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we're like who's.

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<v Speaker 1>In the lead. Yeah, you know, I wasn't gonna say okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about jealousy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Can feelings

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<v Speaker 1>of jealousy be a good thing in a relationship? We

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<v Speaker 1>all experience romantic jealousy differently, but the common emotions associated

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<v Speaker 1>to jealousy are rage, fear, possessiveness, and sadness. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, jealousy is a kind of a reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>losing something or someone that you have And according to

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<v Speaker 1>research psychologists Jolie Hamilton. The knee jerk reaction of jealousy

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<v Speaker 1>has been documented in infant as early as six months old,

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<v Speaker 1>so they are biological. There is a biological component, which

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<v Speaker 1>means jealousy is completely natural. It's about what you do

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<v Speaker 1>with those feelings that matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I like a bit of jealousy, you like.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit of Talk to me about that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I feel like if you don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of jealousy, you really don't care. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in situations where I'm like, I didn't care,

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<v Speaker 2>And if I didn't care, that means I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>enough like emotion in the relationship. I'm not emotionally invested

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<v Speaker 2>in the relationship if I'm not jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do feel like there's like it's good to

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<v Speaker 2>be a little jealous, it's good to be on your toes.

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<v Speaker 2>All those feelings are normal. I think it's just how

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<v Speaker 2>you deal with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, according to life coach Jacqueline Missla, dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>jealousy head on can actually create more trust in a

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<v Speaker 1>stronger bond in a relationship. And so I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what you're alluding to is that a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of jealousy doesn't necessarily hurt. It could create like

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<v Speaker 1>a talking point. Then maybe it might build a stronger bond,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like, you know, keep everything in, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle, not too crazy, don't get too crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>don't get too jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>Like just okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I feel like your partner makes you feel a

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<v Speaker 2>certain way. So if you're feeling a bit jealous, your

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<v Speaker 2>partner can come in and like make you feel good

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<v Speaker 2>and like communicate and make you feel like it's a

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<v Speaker 2>safe place. But if your partner is study doing crazy

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<v Speaker 2>things and that's making you jealous, it's a very unhealthy

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<v Speaker 2>like situation and relationship. I think that's like a problem

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<v Speaker 2>that's never going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's perfect. You set me up perfectly for this

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<v Speaker 1>segue into this example. And so if your partner says

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<v Speaker 1>you need to stop texting with members of the opposite sex,

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<v Speaker 1>is that an impracticable request that is only going to

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<v Speaker 1>put a band aid on the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it depends who the person you're texting is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, well, because it could be like legit, like

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<v Speaker 2>a friend or a business partner, or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, like you can jealousy is okay, but it

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<v Speaker 2>has to be like like there has to be a

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<v Speaker 2>reason for it, and you can't just be jealous over anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>True, I agree. I think most often.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom is really jealous. Just so you know, really

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<v Speaker 2>my mom is super jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, she has good reasons, so she's got

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<v Speaker 1>a great man on.

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<v Speaker 2>This side, you know, and it's definitely very jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>So if somebody went and talked to your she would

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<v Speaker 1>get she would be like she'd be looking them up

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<v Speaker 1>and down, surveying who it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, she's not about that life. I remember on

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<v Speaker 2>Nanny that I brought to my parents' house and she

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<v Speaker 2>just kept talking to my dad. She kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even acknowledging my mom, and she kept trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be funny all my dad and talking to my dad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and my mom and Arabic said to me, like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are not staying here tonight, like you're taking

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<v Speaker 2>your nanny, you're going home, Like you're not staying at

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<v Speaker 2>my house tonight. Because I had a house fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 2>away my parents' house, like a big house. But I

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<v Speaker 2>always wanted to stay at my parents' house when I

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<v Speaker 2>would first get into town, when I would first get

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<v Speaker 2>to Chicago, and my mom did not want that lady

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<v Speaker 2>in her house. She was like, oh, no, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>bringing that lady.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's funny because I feel like it depends

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<v Speaker 1>on the person, right, because you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>guy friends. You got a lot of male business partners,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and so you're constantly communicating with men. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I think, I jokingly say, you know, you need

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<v Speaker 1>more women friends or you need more girlfriends, And I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Women friends are more threatening than male friends, just so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I feel like a women friends to

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<v Speaker 2>who well to any relationship because I feel like if

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<v Speaker 2>I had a bunch of girlfriends, they would always want

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<v Speaker 2>me to go out and do things, and like that

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<v Speaker 2>puts you into more of a.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're saying, you going out with your girlfriends is

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<v Speaker 1>might lead to, you know, a trickier issue than if

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<v Speaker 1>you were hanging out with your guy friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because my guy friends, that relationship has been established.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like it's you're not going to really go

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<v Speaker 2>from like guys that I talk to all the time

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<v Speaker 2>that like you're not going.

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<v Speaker 1>To like know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I mean, look, our situation, how our situation started

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<v Speaker 2>as friends was different because we really weren't around each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was you know, you know that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know the way we met. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just obviously it was a different circumstance, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was like a level of attraction that built up over time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. It wasn't like I was

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<v Speaker 1>we just both friend zoned each other, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that we wanted to get get to know each

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<v Speaker 1>other a little more too. I don't know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it depends on the situation, because, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I go out with my guy friends, then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little more mischief that I would get into

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<v Speaker 1>than if I went out with my girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. That's my point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get it, I get it. I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of where I feel like having guy friends

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<v Speaker 2>is like a safe zone.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like so that means I can go

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<v Speaker 1>and have more female friends. No, I'm just I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying I'm throwing that out. I don't know. I just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it's situational.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's situational. And you know, with this example

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<v Speaker 1>of texting somebody of the opposite sext, I agree. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the subject matter counts depends on what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're sitting there talking about business all day or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, things like that, I feel like, don't be shady.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. I think a lot of people are shady.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be shady, like tell it, say what it is,

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<v Speaker 2>and that way everyone understands what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think, you know, again, friends of the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite sex, there could be ulterior motives there. Or it

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<v Speaker 1>could be a girl, you know, lying in the Louise

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for her shot. It could be a guy you know,

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<v Speaker 1>laying lot waiting for their shot. You know, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you know it just I'm just saying, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>depends on situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you make your partner feel really good

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<v Speaker 2>and stable and like great, they're not going anywhere. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you don't take care of your home,

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<v Speaker 2>then you make it very easy for someone to creep

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<v Speaker 2>in out of the back door.

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<v Speaker 1>So outside of this relationship, not talking about ours, have

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<v Speaker 1>you experienced jealousy and past relationships? Yeah, totally from you

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<v Speaker 1>or from.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy No, I dated someone that was so jealous

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't wear leggings. Yeah, like literally could not wear leggings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I know this story so for good reason.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I literally couldn't leave my house and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like a new relationship. And he's like, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>not with me, I mean, if you're not with your kids,

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<v Speaker 2>you're definitely with me. It's not like you're ever going

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<v Speaker 2>to leave me to go hang out with your friends.

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<v Speaker 2>And I kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought, that's that's too much. I feel like that's corolling.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's controlling and possessiveness, not necessarily jealous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like jealousy most often than not. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get an emotion or a feeling, type of feeling

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<v Speaker 1>around a certain circumstance. But you know, how you handle

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<v Speaker 1>that is you know, is it can be different, It

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<v Speaker 1>could vary. But what you're talking about, I think that's controlling.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, oh, if you're not with me, you ain't

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<v Speaker 1>with your friends, you better be with your family. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little too much.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a turnoff? When sure there's jealousy.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that, Yeah, I think it has to be like

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<v Speaker 2>a touch of it, like a touch of jealousy. That's

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<v Speaker 2>like you know that the person cares, the person is

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<v Speaker 2>like on you, but like not too much. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>it definitely can backfire. If you're super jealous, you push

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<v Speaker 2>the person away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, That's exactly what I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like in previous relationships, if somebody is too jealous,

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<v Speaker 1>then it leads to them constantly being up under you

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<v Speaker 1>or questioning you, or you know, there's no trust. And

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like in my past, if there was no trust,

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<v Speaker 1>then most often than not, I either ended it or

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking for a way out. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's normal, That's very normal. I mean, it's jealousy

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<v Speaker 2>a turn off for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No, I think it's you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you think okay? So do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>it's bad if the person that you're with is not jealous? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>am I jealous to you?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a trick, that's a trick. Question. You have your

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<v Speaker 1>moments where you're protective. I don't necessarily, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to say you're jealous, but there are times

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<v Speaker 1>where you like to be inquisitive and know what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>is going on. You know, I think that's I think

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<v Speaker 1>one of your confident I was just about to say,

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<v Speaker 1>one of your favorite things is protecting your mental and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the best way that you like to protect

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<v Speaker 1>your mental is to fully understand the big picture, whether

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<v Speaker 1>that be a friendship that I have or somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>comes up. For example, when we were walking into Rolling Loud, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and we kind of cut the line. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>walking with Natty and Joe. I mean we were meeting Jojo,

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<v Speaker 1>but walking with Natty, who you know, they own Rolling Loud,

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<v Speaker 1>And so there was a huge line at the Loud

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<v Speaker 1>club right in the VIP and we kind of walked

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<v Speaker 1>through the VIP and all of a sudden, girls are

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<v Speaker 1>saying Marcus, Marcus, Marcus, because it was you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>were some friends that I knew from Orlando who were

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to get in line. And so did you get

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<v Speaker 1>jealous over that? Yeah, a little bit, I don't think,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe, but I mean you were protecting. You

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<v Speaker 1>definitely wanted to know who was yelling.

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<v Speaker 2>And for me, I just keep calling your name.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like I had my head down, head low, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not scared because you thought I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be like CARDIV with the mic.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I wasn't necessarily scared. But it's just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in those instances where you're cutting the line, you're walking

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<v Speaker 1>past people, you don't want to make eye contact with

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<v Speaker 1>anybody because if it is somebody that you know pretty well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not trying to add on to the crew that

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<v Speaker 1>we already were, you know, had. So I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that was an instance of not necessarily you being jealous,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't love you. You're trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>I just love you, what's at play? Who's what's the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger picture? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>And I love you too, man, So what do you think? Wait,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think there's like a healthy amount of jealousy

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<v Speaker 2>in a relationship? Like, do you think we're in a

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<v Speaker 2>healthy place for like both of us?

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that there is. I think jealousy is

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<v Speaker 1>healthy for relationship because one, it shows that you care too,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it shows that you are interested in actually

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<v Speaker 1>understanding and getting to know your partner better, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of their relationships and friendships, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there could be a healthy amount of jealousy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think all relationships have some amount some is greater

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<v Speaker 1>than others.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think so too about you? What about?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think of partners who react to jealousy

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<v Speaker 2>with words like you're crazy, you're paranoid, like yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>After cheaters, when you say things like that, you're like

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<v Speaker 2>a full blown cheater.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like those types of responses can be triggering,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, and like it doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>help the situation at hand, because then you get you

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<v Speaker 1>come off defensive, and so now the other person thinks

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's more there, right, you know, so then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe while you're sleeping, somebody's gonna go through your phone

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<v Speaker 1>or you know they're gonna they're gonna there will be

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<v Speaker 1>big extreme measures.

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<v Speaker 2>Women are known for digging. We like to dig and

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<v Speaker 2>see what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And so wait, can you tell me why women like

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<v Speaker 1>to dig? Is it because because they.

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<v Speaker 2>Just want to know what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they should know what's up. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think if everyone was honest, So what if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>super super duper honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I am too.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very honest, Like I tell you exactly what it is, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I got this tattoo love. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember I got this tattoo and I had this whole

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with like this person that I was with, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hey, just so you know, going forward,

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<v Speaker 2>like I gave you so much love and I never

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<v Speaker 2>got it back. I will never be faithful to you again,

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<v Speaker 2>Like all bets are off. And I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like that, I kind of like say it, and once

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<v Speaker 2>I say it, I feel like I understand it for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I've said it to the world, like to myself and

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<v Speaker 2>to the person. I can move forward and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to respect our relationship anymore. I don't like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>good with whatever. Yeah, And so I do feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very open and honest like that, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>play games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think that's that should be appreciated because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, most often than not, people play games, people cheat,

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<v Speaker 1>people lie, and I think you know, that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't think that that's healthy. Yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 1>could lead to other bad habits. And so all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's enough about jealousy. You know, working up some.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling i feel like I'm jealous that you're sitting

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<v Speaker 2>too far from me.

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<v Speaker 1>So get over here, bab Let's talk about fubbing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>are you guilty of fu?

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<v Speaker 2>Is fubbing?

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<v Speaker 1>So? Fubbing is a modern phenomenon which is a mix

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<v Speaker 1>of two words phone and snubbing. And so essentially, fubbing

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<v Speaker 1>is when you ignore your romantic partner for your digital devices.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, your partner's in the same room, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>scrolling endlessly or answering messages that aren't urgent. And so

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<v Speaker 1>research shows that the practice of fubbing is causing increased

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<v Speaker 1>conflict and reduced intimacy.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so are you guilty of fubbing? Baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? So yeah I am, but no I want to

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<v Speaker 2>beat you to that. Y Okay, I am like to

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<v Speaker 2>fu Okay, now me let me let me. I do

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<v Speaker 2>like to fub but I'm always including you in the conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be like a business thing and I'll be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm texting this person about this, or I'm replying back

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<v Speaker 2>to an email. But it's never like me just looking

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<v Speaker 2>through Instagram or like stuff like that. When we're together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like offen times when you fub and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're both everybody is guilty of fubbing at

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<v Speaker 1>some point. But I feel like yesterday we went to

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<v Speaker 1>lunch and you were fubbing me. You had to take

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<v Speaker 1>calls and you had to answer text. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>think it's because you wear multiple hats. You know, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got four kids, You've got businesses that you're running, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's understandable and reasonable to expect that every

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<v Speaker 1>now and then you might have to answer a call

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<v Speaker 1>while we're at lunch or on a date. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you feel like if you tell the person

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm doing this, or like include them in what

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing, do you feel like that makes it better?

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<v Speaker 1>It definitely makes it better, but it's still fubbing because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, if we if we, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>say that we're going out on a date or we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to lunch, then I think the expectation is that

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<v Speaker 1>your full attention is going to be part of the date.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, not just yours, but mine too, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think a little bit of fubbing doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what would drive me crazy is that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's different seasons where you're busier than others,

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<v Speaker 1>and so if you're in your busy season, and then

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<v Speaker 1>your significant other is like, oh, you're fubbing me, You're

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<v Speaker 1>fubbing me, You're fubbing me. Then like that could get

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<v Speaker 1>annoying because sometimes you got to handle work work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like as long as it's like stuff

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<v Speaker 2>for me, I don't like to let things pile up,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I hate that feeling. If I like don't handle

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<v Speaker 2>things like emails or like people attorneys that are calling

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<v Speaker 2>me and stuff, I just feel like I'm holding everyone up.

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<v Speaker 2>Or if I a group text like with the Luho people,

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like I don't want to be the

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<v Speaker 2>one that's holding up what's you know, like the business

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<v Speaker 2>right exactly. So I always like to reply and I

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<v Speaker 2>like to make sure everyone understands what my views are

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<v Speaker 2>on X, Y and Z. And I feel like sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>when you kind of put it off, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like slows the whole process down.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I do like.

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<v Speaker 2>To handle it, but I do feel like I do

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<v Speaker 2>include you and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sometimes you're overly inclusive, Like sometimes I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Want it's too much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that it's too much, it's just that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like it's my place to get involved you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>that person to you know, I just hate like when

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<v Speaker 1>it's not somebody's business and they constantly insert themselves. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the polar opposite of that, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like waiting, but you know what, I'm waiting until

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<v Speaker 1>the teacher calls on me to like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like that though, Yeah, I like that too with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like insert myself and your stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You definitely, you definitely don't.

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<v Speaker 2>We're both I think we're both alike in so many

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<v Speaker 2>different ways because we're both like that, like we're not

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<v Speaker 2>trying to like overdo our position.

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<v Speaker 1>We kind of like, I think we want to be

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<v Speaker 1>complimentary to each other, not necessarily controlling or totally you know. So, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>would you date or marry a pubber?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're working and I listen, I you

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<v Speaker 2>would marry someone where you communicate with them and if

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<v Speaker 2>that bothered you, then you would tell them that you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like I'm going to marry a fubber

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<v Speaker 1>because you'd like the fub Oh sorry exactly. So can

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<v Speaker 1>be argue that being on your phone is dedicated time

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself, which is also important in maintaining healthy relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because I feel like for me, it's always work.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I feel like, out of the two of us,

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<v Speaker 1>I can live without my phone. I'm perfectly fine without

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<v Speaker 1>my phone. My phone dies all the time. It does

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<v Speaker 1>obviously not when i'm you know, when I'm with you,

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 1>my phone dies all the time. And so like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, out of the two of us, I can

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<v Speaker 1>definitely go without a phone. I don't think you can

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<v Speaker 1>live without a phone, mainly because your kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because feel like I always have my kids. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I was telling you, I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of want to go somewhere and just turn

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<v Speaker 2>off my phone for like five days and just have

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<v Speaker 2>my kids call your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>If they need love it, love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel like I want to do that

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't know how to like stop replying to

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<v Speaker 2>like emails or like text messaging, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like to let people down. Yeah, I reply

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<v Speaker 2>people like literally. I had a masseuse that asked me

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<v Speaker 2>for like twenty five thousand dollars via text, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had to reply to her, and I'm like, why am

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<v Speaker 2>I even replying to this person because it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>so crazy that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like would have got blocked.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but I just, I just I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>to leave people on like like unread. I like to

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<v Speaker 2>like reply like whatever does that? I'm always like, I

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<v Speaker 2>just I go to a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially if you come like that, you come asking for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five thousand dollars, I'm not hitting you back for

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>like six months. Whatever event is happening, that's got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Blow over before I you I need to be more

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's move on. Have you ever been benched before?

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<v Speaker 1>There's a new micro dating trend called benching, and according

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<v Speaker 1>to Psychology Today expert doctor Bruce Y Lee, benching occurs

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<v Speaker 1>when someone keeps you around as a backup because the

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>person is interested in someone else.

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's why everyone's single in today's world.

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, if you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Always feeling like you can get better. Okay, so you're

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<v Speaker 2>dating a bunch of people all my friends, this is

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<v Speaker 2>where my friends like.

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I think you're notorious in talking to your friends about

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>you got to have a roster. You gotta have a roster,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And so this is I think an additional

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>component to that. So who are you benching? Who's your

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 1>starting five? You know, you specifically, But I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a modern day thing, having a roster and having

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<v Speaker 1>to bench some people totally.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also feel like it's it's what happens in

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 2>today's world, in today's dating world. Yeah, everyone has so

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 2>many options, and you're only as good as your options.

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it's funny. I feel like guys always

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<v Speaker 2>want the one girl that every guy wants, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>So I.

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<v Speaker 1>Beg to disagree. I don't know. I think it depends

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<v Speaker 1>on the guy number one. And I've always been prior

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>to you, you know, I always had a joke with

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.679
<v Speaker 1>my friends that, like, if I was going to get married,

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 1>she probably wouldn't speak English, Like, I'm gonna go find

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the most beautiful girl in the world that lives out

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of the country, that knows nothing about all of this

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>hoopola bs that we live in. I wasn't gonna move.

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:48.479
<v Speaker 1>I was she was going to move. I was going

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to bring her back to the States, you know, And

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>so that was a running joke that I have with

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>my friends. Now I've obviously my position has changed a

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>little bit on that, But I've never been the one

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>to like go and see like, oh, so and so

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>has been with this person, that person I'm trying to

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.239
<v Speaker 1>go be with her, Like, nah, I don't you know.

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>They don't necessarily work like that for me.

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>I think there's like signs to the fact when you're

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 2>getting benched.

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and so talk about the five signs baby.

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>So I think it's like inconsistency when a person acts

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 2>in a very inconsistent manner, like they may call you,

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 2>they may not. You can't really rely on the person.

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's one of my biggest pet peeves. I feel

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>like if I was trying to pursue a woman and

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>like I'm texting you, like everybody has their phone in

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 1>their hands constantly, at least within the next ninety minutes

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>or two hours of a day, and so like if

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm texting a girl and I don't get a response

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>for like two or three days, like I can tell

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>that I'm being benched and I'm moving on to the

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>next you know.

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 2>But I also feel like girls do that purposefully. Like

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I used to do that, and I would tell guys,

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, hey, don't rely, like I say, I'll

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 2>call you back in like twenty minutes, and I would

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:49.719
<v Speaker 2>forget and then I would tell them the next day.

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 2>They'd be like, you were supposed to call me, and

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, don't rely on me calling thirsty.

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>First of all, I would never. I would never. I

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>would say that girl.

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Like I would say, don't rely on Say a lot

0:29:59.160 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 2>going on.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting for you to call me, and if you don't,

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>then I'm talking to X, Y and Z.

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 2>You're moving on.

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not waiting for nobody. But you know, I

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>just feel like that would be an indication that you're

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>being benched. Just like, all right, it's been three days,

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Surety hasn't hit me back. Yeah, I'm like, all right,

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I went to the next right.

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Or like I'll check my calendar, like let me see

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 2>what I'm going on next week. I'm not sure what

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm going on next week. That's like, that's something indicating bunched.

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true, because people make time for the people

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>that they want to spend time with, even if it's

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 1>like a Netflix and chill or a late night movie

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>date or you know what I'm saying, Like, if you

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>want to kick it with somebody's chances are you going

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to move some shit around to.

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Kick it with them one thousand per time. But I

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 2>also feel like you should listen to your intuition. Yeah,

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, I feel like if you're if you feel

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 2>like you're not being a priority, then you're probably not

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 2>a priority.

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I definitely agree with that. I feel like,

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, people prioritize things that they want, you know,

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>people that they like, and.

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Things are going for the things they want to do.

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's always time, and I feel like

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 2>that's like, you know, a major indicator and if you're

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<v Speaker 2>being bunched or not.

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>And so they talk about other dates and xcees often too,

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and so the cardinal Worle do not discuss your x

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>on a first day even frequently, unless sharing a lesson learned.

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I kind of talk about my exes,

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 2>but not like in a weird way, like in a

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 2>like thank God I'm with you today.

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>With you today, you do you talk about your previous experiences,

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.479
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like, like what this says, you often

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>talk about like what you learned from them or how

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you become better from you know that situation. And so

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>if interactions feel one sided, check if you're doing all

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the work. If you're the only one talking, if you're

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the only one reaching out, texting, most often than that,

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>chances are you're being benched. So those are five signs

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>for our listeners. If you're being benched, send us a

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>message on.

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 2>You know what you know what you could do when

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 2>you feel like you're being benched?

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>What can you do?

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 2>Block the person?

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, you know, for me, it's today.

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Or just say something really crazy to them and then

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh my gosh, you crazy. At least your

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 2>crazy instead of being benched. I rather guys think I

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 2>was crazy than like just thinking that I was basic.

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean for me, I've always been like I

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 1>like to be upfront, honest or blunt, you know. And

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>so if I'm not feeling you, I'm not feeling you,

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, or if I got other things going on,

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna keep it a buck, I'm gonna tell you

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I got other you know. Yeah, I got other things

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>going on, you know. And so most often than not,

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>at least prior to our relationship, that never really deterred anybody.

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it makes I feel like girls want what

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>they can't have in some circumstances and so if girls

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>think that you're talking to other women, you know, they'll

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>try to show you why you shouldn't be talking to

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>other women by you know, going above and.

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Beyond well, you know, it's kind of like having a roster.

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Like I was telling my single friends, you need to

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 2>have like a few guys that you talk to in

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 2>that way. Sometimes when you just talk to one person,

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 2>you give them so much attention and you blow up

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 2>their head and all of a sudden, they feel so

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 2>good about themselves. They start dogging you.

0:32:57.960 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>They feel like they conquered the question.

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I do. And I feel like sometimes when

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 2>you're when you initially start talking to one person, you

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 2>should be talking to other people, and that way you

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 2>don't have as much time to focus on that one person.

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 2>And it's really immature. I'm not gonna lie, it's really immature.

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Hey, that's the way it's really three.

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, I know, but that's kind of how

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 2>you have to be in twenty twenty three. To lock

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 2>down like a guy that you like, you have to

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 2>play them to the last. Yeah, feel and they like

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 2>you more.

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 1>You got to have rosters, you game guys. You've got

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to be ready to play different sports, you know what

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying in different industry, so you know, I don't know.

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like when I was single, I definitely had

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>a few teams rosters, you know.

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like, if he's the right person, I

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I feel like I never really like to

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 2>play games, but I could write a book about playing games,

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 2>for sure. But I do feel like if he's the

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 2>right person for you, and you're the right person for him, Like,

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you need to do all that. It's

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 2>like you both meet in the middle and you're just

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>like at the right place at the right time. Yeah,

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 2>But I do feel like I give my friends a

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 2>lot of advice, and I feel like all the advice

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 2>that I give them is basically with your starting five.

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Like, I feel like timing is everything, you know, because

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>when you're young and you want to be single, you know,

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>then that's where you know, you might have a deep roster,

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>or you're playing some of those you know, some of

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>those dating games positions or whatever. But as you get

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>older or as you start looking for, you know, just

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>solidarity and stability, you know, some of those some of

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>those people you got to cut, you know, Yeah, some

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>of those players you got to wave and so have

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you ever benched someone and didn't even realize it? No?

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, you know, you know, when you're not

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 2>really feeling someone.

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Have you been benched and how long did it take

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 1>to notice it?

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.320
<v Speaker 2>No, because I feel like I don't really expect anything

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 2>from anyone. I'm the kind of person like you have

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 2>to do so much for me initially to show me

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:48.919
<v Speaker 2>that you like me, or I don't care, Like I.

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Feel like you've You've always been the team captain, you

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>call the shots, you know, and so I just I

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>can never picture you being benched.

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, No, because I understand, like I understand in the

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>game of life.

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I feel like you most often than not,

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 1>when guys are pursuing you, you control the pace. You know,

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 1>at least the woman always typically controls the pace. If

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to hook up, then you'll hook up. If

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you want to slow play it and learn more about

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the guy, you'll probably you know, slow play it. And

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. For me, I feel like there's maybe

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>been times where I've been benched just because I was

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>open and honest that I had a deep roster, you

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:28.280
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. And so sometimes girls aren't feeling

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 1>that sometimes, you know, it becomes a challenge to them.

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel like for most women, I think that like

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 2>you have to like like for me personally, I feel

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:38.479
<v Speaker 2>like a guy has to do a lot to show

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 2>me that he wants to be with me.

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I agree with that.

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:41.919
<v Speaker 2>You have to put in time, you have to put

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 2>in calls, you have to like do things for me

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 2>to make me feel like you want to be with me,

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 2>because if you're just calling, you're texting me when you want, like,

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 2>you're not even, you're not even you don't even know

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 2>where my gym.

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 1>Is, right, Yeah, No, I feel that. I feel that

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>what if someone just wants to take it slow and

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>keep their options open, is that well.

0:35:57.800 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>That's because you're not that's because you feel like you

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 2>haven't hit your peak.

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Or maybe some people just aren't you know, interested

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>in settling down right now. Let me look at Drake

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>for example. Drake, you know is notoriously single and dating

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and having fun and not interested in having a wife,

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and so you know, obviously his options are open.

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, you're only as good as your options.

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure the boy has plenty of options, for sure,

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:25.760
<v Speaker 1>plenty of options.

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 2>As long as he's happy and fields fulfilled, why not.

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 2>I also feel like when you're an artist, you need

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 2>to have a lot of different flavors.

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got to have experiences in life, stuff going

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 1>on in your life.

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Creativity you need to have like a crazy girl, a

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 2>smart girl, a classy girl.

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a roster.

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 2>You definitely need a roster for content. Like I get

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 2>it because I feel like when I was single, I

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 2>felt like I had to talk to different guys for

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 2>different things, like reasons, Like I had a really smart

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 2>tech guy that I used to talk to that I

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 2>love talking Tom because he would like tell me he

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, made three hundred million dollars in less than

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:58.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours, or I raised a billion dollars my

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 2>company with Unicorn, Like I loved having those kind of relationships,

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 2>and then I liked having athlete relationship, like just like

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 2>different friendships. You know.

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's more so of you leaving a

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>relationship and trying to figure out what's next, right exactly,

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>And so of course you know you're single, you're gonna

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.240
<v Speaker 1>date whoever. Yeah, you know you're attracted to to figure

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>out what you really like, especially haven't been married at

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 1>so young at twenty one. Yeah, I feel like for me,

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm the opposite. I feel like I've I'm thirty two,

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<v Speaker 1>never been married, no kids, and so I've been playing

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<v Speaker 1>the field trying to figure out, all right, is this

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<v Speaker 1>something that I want to do one day? And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. We're getting warmer. Okay, we're getting warmer.

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<v Speaker 2>Good what kind?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I had a great time talking to you guys today.

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<v Speaker 1>Same here, bab. It was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you guys for hanging out with us today. We

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciate you.

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