Speaker 1: And we're back with another episode of Separation Anxiety. I'm
Speaker 1: your host Marcus Jordan.
Speaker 2: And I'm Larsta Pippen, and.
Speaker 1: Today we're talking life in love with Larcus. I love
Speaker 1: that we're talking a little bit about spending, habits, talking
Speaker 1: a little bit about jealousy and a whole myriad of things.
Speaker 1: But let's jump into a babe.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm ready, let's go.
Speaker 1: So Katie Thurston from season seventeen of The Bachelor that
Speaker 1: says she gifted her then boyfriend John Hershey of a
Speaker 1: new van prior to their breakup. The couple had been
Speaker 1: dating for six months they were living together when he
Speaker 1: broke up with her. He was a bartender and aspiring
Speaker 1: pilot and eventually paid her back for the van, but
Speaker 1: it took a long time because it was expensive. Now,
Speaker 1: Katie says she'll never buy a man a present of
Speaker 1: that caliber again. And So, a babe, what is the
Speaker 1: most expensive gift you've bought your significant other?
Speaker 2: I think when you're a married when you're dating, it's
Speaker 2: two different things.
Speaker 1: Okay, so talk about it. Let's talk. So.
Speaker 2: I think that like when you're dating someone, you there's
Speaker 2: like parameters, like you really shouldn't buy them a car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not going to say it like that. I
Speaker 2: guess I shouldn't say like that because I have gotten cars.
Speaker 1: You've gotten cars, you've gotten You've received a lot of gifts.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm saying for a girl, like I
Speaker 2: feel like it's a woman. I would not buy my
Speaker 2: boyfriend a car. However, I have guys buy me cars.
Speaker 2: So I guess it's kind of like you.
Speaker 1: Talk about it from the woman's perspective, I'll talk about
Speaker 1: it from the mass.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So from a woman's perspective. I don't think
Speaker 2: that I would buy a man a car if he's
Speaker 2: just a boyfriend. I think if you're my husband, then
Speaker 2: we share everything. You know, you can, I can give
Speaker 2: you whatever you want. You're going to give me whatever
Speaker 2: I want. But I think it's a woman. I don't.
Speaker 2: I just think like men give better gifts than women.
Speaker 1: I think, well, I think you know, for a man,
Speaker 1: you know, oftentimes that's your way of trying to you know,
Speaker 1: get noticed or you know, hook in your your girl
Speaker 1: that you're dating, you know, And so there's been times
Speaker 1: where I've spent you know, an abnormal amount of money
Speaker 1: on trying to impress somebody or get somebody, get somebody's attention.
Speaker 2: I'll say.
Speaker 1: And so I wouldn't say I've bought any cars, but
Speaker 1: I've gifted some things that were, you know, as expensive
Speaker 1: as cars for sure.
Speaker 2: And so I feel like, I feel like you spent
Speaker 2: a lot of money on my birthday.
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of money on you every day.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, your birthday. Yeah, I just wanted to
Speaker 1: make it special for you. You know. Again, I think
Speaker 1: you put a lot of value into those type of
Speaker 1: sentimental dates and moments and stuff like that. But you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like every day I'm trying to take things
Speaker 1: up a notch. And so I do feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: as a guy, there is you know, after you started
Speaker 1: dating or whatever your boyfriend girlfriend, I feel like there's
Speaker 1: a scale of like time spent together versus price and
Speaker 1: value of the gifts. I feel like over time you
Speaker 1: constantly have to outdo yourself, you know. So if you
Speaker 1: start off with a million dollar gifts, by year five
Speaker 1: of the relationship, you're up to five million dollars in gifts. Wow,
Speaker 1: Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know? And so I just think that there's a
Speaker 1: double standard when it comes to guy's gifting versus girls gifting.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, my mom taught me this, and she said,
Speaker 2: you know what's the most important gift anyone can ever
Speaker 2: give you? What's that time?
Speaker 1: I agree with that.
Speaker 2: Because I feel like time is something. When someone gives
Speaker 2: you their time, it's more valuable than a gift.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of women out there though, that I
Speaker 1: feel like, are spending time with, you know, a deadbeat dude,
Speaker 1: and they're looking for the other types of gifts. Am
Speaker 1: I wrong?
Speaker 2: Why can't you get both?
Speaker 1: Why can't I mean, sometimes the guy don't have it
Speaker 1: like that, you know, so he's like, look, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you all the time I got in the world.
Speaker 1: But you know we're struggling. We grind it together, you know.
Speaker 1: So he might not be able to buy that five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars bag or something like that. So in that scenario,
Speaker 1: is that you would you still date that guy? I
Speaker 1: think so if you was grinding towards something.
Speaker 2: I think so I think that, Like I think like
Speaker 2: if someone makes you feel good and they make you happy,
Speaker 2: then that's like more important than any gift.
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think so I feel I
Speaker 1: feel like you know again, I think we talked about
Speaker 1: this on our last episode, Like you like a boss,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, like a boss. But I also grew up. My
Speaker 2: dad gave me everything.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 2: My dad always gave me gifts. My dad took me
Speaker 2: on shopping spreees like so for me love, Like, if
Speaker 2: you want to show me love, you give me things
Speaker 2: sometimes like I like it, but at the same time,
Speaker 2: like I have my mom who's the total opposite, and
Speaker 2: my mom tells me that, like, these things are not
Speaker 2: going to make you happy.
Speaker 1: Larsa, I feel like there was maybe a point in
Speaker 1: your life, especially when you stepped away from your previous marriage,
Speaker 1: that like you were single, you know, and you've probably
Speaker 1: had a lot of suitors out there, and so sometimes
Speaker 1: can you and I'm going to ask you this, sometimes
Speaker 1: can a woman get tired of too many gifts? Is
Speaker 1: there such thing as too many gifts?
Speaker 2: No, if it's from the right person now, but.
Speaker 1: What if it's not. What if it's from gods just
Speaker 1: trying to buy your love?
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, sounds like a not It sounds like.
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as too many gifts guys.
Speaker 2: No, there's no such thing as too many gifts. But
Speaker 2: I feel like people give you what they have to offer. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: So some people have gifts to offer, some people have
Speaker 2: time to offer, some people have, you know, love to offer.
Speaker 2: I think it's like, you know, it's what they're offering
Speaker 2: is at that point, and I feel like, you can,
Speaker 2: you can have it all. Why can't you be with
Speaker 2: a guy that's successful and giving. Yeah, there's nothing worse
Speaker 2: than a guy that's successful and cheap.
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a guy that was constantly giving
Speaker 1: you gifts that you just knew you would never be
Speaker 1: with no matter how many gifts?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: I guess and vice versa.
Speaker 2: You know, you did you feel like you had to
Speaker 2: give girls gifts because of who you are?
Speaker 1: So that's twofold. Oftentimes when I was dating, when I
Speaker 1: was single and dating, you know, you kind of know
Speaker 1: if it's going to be a long term relationship or
Speaker 1: if it's like a fling, you know, And so I
Speaker 1: felt like a lot of times in my flings, you know,
Speaker 1: I would definitely give a lot of gifts just because
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you're trying to keep somebody happy,
Speaker 1: also trying to maybe you know, buy a little bit
Speaker 1: of silence, not have people go in public, you know,
Speaker 1: because when you're dating you not necessarily, you know, not
Speaker 1: everybody meets the boyfriend girlfriend's standard. Am I am? I right?
Speaker 2: No, I hear you.
Speaker 1: And so you know, there was there were some flings
Speaker 1: out there that maybe got some shoes or a bag
Speaker 1: or you know, some clothes from trophy room or something
Speaker 1: like that. And you know that's how I go That's
Speaker 1: how I went back then got it. Now I'm saving
Speaker 1: all my money so I can buy you the world.
Speaker 2: I love that. I love you. That's okay, I love
Speaker 2: you too.
Speaker 1: Have you ever regretted buying something expensive for a partner?
Speaker 2: Actually I do, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about it?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Okay, what's up? Who was it? I mean, not necessarily
Speaker 1: who was what was it?
Speaker 2: I did give this guy a necklace, okay, and it
Speaker 2: was from our jewelry.
Speaker 1: Line okay, and Larsa Marie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was kind of annoying because I like,
Speaker 2: he ended up getting back with his ax and I
Speaker 2: feel like she would have taken the necklace. It's just
Speaker 2: kind of annoying.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you regret giving that necklace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of feel like it was very personal
Speaker 2: because it was like it was like one of my
Speaker 2: very first like chain necklaces I was making, like the
Speaker 2: chain link necklaces that I love so much and my
Speaker 2: logo on there, and it was just annoying to think,
Speaker 2: like some other girl is going to be wearing a
Speaker 2: necklace that I gave this guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of I could. I could see that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: For me, I've never really regretted. I've always given a
Speaker 1: gift not expecting anything in return. You know. Obviously, you
Speaker 1: can maybe insinuate or hope that there's you know, something
Speaker 1: that you're going to get in return. But once I
Speaker 1: give a gift, I've given it, it's gone, like you know,
Speaker 1: and you see, I'm very generous in terms of like
Speaker 1: when we go out with friends or you know, obviously
Speaker 1: in our relationship.
Speaker 2: I think it's given. Take. I think in any relationship
Speaker 2: it's given. Takes. Some people, you know, you give things too,
Speaker 2: they do other things for you. I think it's given take.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had to give a gift back?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Never, never. Oh, I wasn't going to call you out
Speaker 1: on that, one.
Speaker 2: But okay, so I did get it a g Wagon okay,
Speaker 2: and then mm hmm, and I had to end up
Speaker 2: giving it back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we won't. We won't necessarily get into the details.
Speaker 2: I forgot about that.
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to put you on friend street.
Speaker 2: Well, I had a lot of cars. Someone gifted me
Speaker 2: a lot of cars, and one of them was I
Speaker 2: gave them all back and I kept the g Wagon.
Speaker 1: And then but I also think that you know, not
Speaker 1: to tell your story, but I also feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: there might have been extra expectations put on the friendship,
Speaker 1: not necessarily you know, sexually, but like you know, spending
Speaker 1: time with somebody and you know, all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: And I don't think that you were in a position
Speaker 1: that you wanted to do that, and so it's probably
Speaker 1: better to give the gifts back versus like leading someone
Speaker 1: in the direction you don't want to go.
Speaker 2: Totally, Yeah, I agree, But you know what my dad
Speaker 2: always taught me. My dad literally has been telling me
Speaker 2: this my whole life, like, people don't give you gifts
Speaker 2: for nothing.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've said that.
Speaker 2: To you, and my dad always always used to say
Speaker 2: this to me, and I would be like Oh, they're
Speaker 2: just my friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, no, I mean, look for me as
Speaker 1: a man, if you give a gift, you give a gift.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, don't. I wouldn't expect anything back,
Speaker 1: and so would you expect or would they expect you
Speaker 1: to pay something back? Have you ever been expected to
Speaker 1: pay back something for a gift? No, I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever met. No, I've never asked it. Like, that's insane.
Speaker 1: That's an insane So.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. If you gave someone
Speaker 2: an engagement ring and you guys broke up, would you
Speaker 2: want the ring back?
Speaker 1: Nah? Yeah, I feel like once I spend my money
Speaker 1: on it, like it's in my mind, I've written it off,
Speaker 1: it's gone, it's yours. You know.
Speaker 2: I'm like that too, unless.
Speaker 1: I haven't given it to that person. For example, let'
Speaker 1: say I bought an engagement ring and something happened and
Speaker 1: now we're calling you know, not that we're calling engagement now,
Speaker 1: but we're breaking up, and so yeah, I'm not mad
Speaker 1: at taking the ring back at that you've never given it.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to save it for the next woman
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get because she might like a different cut
Speaker 1: of stone or something. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's normal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So anything else you want to add on this topic.
Speaker 1: I feel like we can talk about this for a while. No,
Speaker 1: I feel it's confidential a little bit.
Speaker 2: I mean I have to. But I do like the
Speaker 2: way we are with each other because I feel like
Speaker 2: we're both very generous with each other.
Speaker 1: I feel like we try to outdo each other's love
Speaker 1: in different ways, you know, whether it's giving a gift
Speaker 1: or a BackRub, or you know, surprising each other with
Speaker 1: dinner or something like that. Like I feel like we
Speaker 1: are constantly trying to want up each other. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like we're like who's.
Speaker 1: In the lead. Yeah, you know, I wasn't gonna say okay,
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about jealousy.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Can feelings
Speaker 1: of jealousy be a good thing in a relationship? We
Speaker 1: all experience romantic jealousy differently, but the common emotions associated
Speaker 1: to jealousy are rage, fear, possessiveness, and sadness. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, jealousy is a kind of a reaction to
Speaker 1: losing something or someone that you have And according to
Speaker 1: research psychologists Jolie Hamilton. The knee jerk reaction of jealousy
Speaker 1: has been documented in infant as early as six months old,
Speaker 1: so they are biological. There is a biological component, which
Speaker 1: means jealousy is completely natural. It's about what you do
Speaker 1: with those feelings that matter.
Speaker 2: I like a bit of jealousy, you like.
Speaker 1: A little bit of Talk to me about that, Like,
Speaker 1: what does that mean?
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like if you don't have a
Speaker 2: little bit of jealousy, you really don't care. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: I've been in situations where I'm like, I didn't care,
Speaker 2: And if I didn't care, that means I don't have
Speaker 2: enough like emotion in the relationship. I'm not emotionally invested
Speaker 2: in the relationship if I'm not jealous.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I do feel like there's like it's good to
Speaker 2: be a little jealous, it's good to be on your toes.
Speaker 2: All those feelings are normal. I think it's just how
Speaker 2: you deal with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, according to life coach Jacqueline Missla, dealing with
Speaker 1: jealousy head on can actually create more trust in a
Speaker 1: stronger bond in a relationship. And so I think that's
Speaker 1: kind of what you're alluding to is that a little
Speaker 1: bit of jealousy doesn't necessarily hurt. It could create like
Speaker 1: a talking point. Then maybe it might build a stronger bond,
Speaker 1: you know, I think so.
Speaker 2: I think it's like, you know, keep everything in, you know,
Speaker 2: in the middle, not too crazy, don't get too crazy,
Speaker 2: don't get too jealous.
Speaker 1: Like just okay.
Speaker 2: So, I feel like your partner makes you feel a
Speaker 2: certain way. So if you're feeling a bit jealous, your
Speaker 2: partner can come in and like make you feel good
Speaker 2: and like communicate and make you feel like it's a
Speaker 2: safe place. But if your partner is study doing crazy
Speaker 2: things and that's making you jealous, it's a very unhealthy
Speaker 2: like situation and relationship. I think that's like a problem
Speaker 2: that's never going to work.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's perfect. You set me up perfectly for this
Speaker 1: segue into this example. And so if your partner says
Speaker 1: you need to stop texting with members of the opposite sex,
Speaker 1: is that an impracticable request that is only going to
Speaker 1: put a band aid on the issue.
Speaker 2: I think it depends who the person you're texting is.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, because it could be like legit, like
Speaker 2: a friend or a business partner, or something like that.
Speaker 2: I think, like you can jealousy is okay, but it
Speaker 2: has to be like like there has to be a
Speaker 2: reason for it, and you can't just be jealous over anything,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: True, I agree. I think most often.
Speaker 2: My mom is really jealous. Just so you know, really
Speaker 2: my mom is super jealous.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, she has good reasons, so she's got
Speaker 1: a great man on.
Speaker 2: This side, you know, and it's definitely very jealous.
Speaker 1: So if somebody went and talked to your she would
Speaker 1: get she would be like she'd be looking them up
Speaker 1: and down, surveying who it is.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, she's not about that life. I remember on
Speaker 2: Nanny that I brought to my parents' house and she
Speaker 2: just kept talking to my dad. She kind of like
Speaker 2: wasn't even acknowledging my mom, and she kept trying to
Speaker 2: be funny all my dad and talking to my dad. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and my mom and Arabic said to me, like, if
Speaker 2: you guys are not staying here tonight, like you're taking
Speaker 2: your nanny, you're going home, Like you're not staying at
Speaker 2: my house tonight. Because I had a house fifteen minutes
Speaker 2: away my parents' house, like a big house. But I
Speaker 2: always wanted to stay at my parents' house when I
Speaker 2: would first get into town, when I would first get
Speaker 2: to Chicago, and my mom did not want that lady
Speaker 2: in her house. She was like, oh, no, you're not
Speaker 2: bringing that lady.
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny because I feel like it depends
Speaker 1: on the person, right, because you have a lot of
Speaker 1: guy friends. You got a lot of male business partners,
Speaker 1: you know, and so you're constantly communicating with men. And
Speaker 1: sometimes I think, I jokingly say, you know, you need
Speaker 1: more women friends or you need more girlfriends, And I think.
Speaker 2: Women friends are more threatening than male friends, just so
Speaker 2: you know, because I feel like a women friends to
Speaker 2: who well to any relationship because I feel like if
Speaker 2: I had a bunch of girlfriends, they would always want
Speaker 2: me to go out and do things, and like that
Speaker 2: puts you into more of a.
Speaker 1: Like you're saying, you going out with your girlfriends is
Speaker 1: might lead to, you know, a trickier issue than if
Speaker 1: you were hanging out with your guy friends.
Speaker 2: Yes, because my guy friends, that relationship has been established.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's you're not going to really go
Speaker 2: from like guys that I talk to all the time
Speaker 2: that like you're not going.
Speaker 1: To like know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, I mean, look, our situation, how our situation started
Speaker 2: as friends was different because we really weren't around each other.
Speaker 1: I think there was you know, you know that's true,
Speaker 1: and you know the way we met. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just obviously it was a different circumstance, but there
Speaker 1: was like a level of attraction that built up over time,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It wasn't like I was
Speaker 1: we just both friend zoned each other, you know. I
Speaker 1: think that we wanted to get get to know each
Speaker 1: other a little more too. I don't know, I just
Speaker 1: feel like it depends on the situation, because, like you know,
Speaker 1: if I go out with my guy friends, then maybe
Speaker 1: there's a little more mischief that I would get into
Speaker 1: than if I went out with my girlfriends.
Speaker 2: Exactly. That's my point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2: That's kind of where I feel like having guy friends
Speaker 2: is like a safe zone.
Speaker 1: But I feel like so that means I can go
Speaker 1: and have more female friends. No, I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I'm throwing that out. I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's situational.
Speaker 2: I think a situation.
Speaker 1: I think it's situational. And you know, with this example
Speaker 1: of texting somebody of the opposite sext, I agree. I
Speaker 1: think the subject matter counts depends on what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: If you're sitting there talking about business all day or
Speaker 1: you know, things like that, I feel like, don't be shady.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I think a lot of people are shady.
Speaker 2: Don't be shady, like tell it, say what it is,
Speaker 2: and that way everyone understands what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think, you know, again, friends of the
Speaker 1: opposite sex, there could be ulterior motives there. Or it
Speaker 1: could be a girl, you know, lying in the Louise
Speaker 1: waiting for her shot. It could be a guy you know,
Speaker 1: laying lot waiting for their shot. You know, and so
Speaker 1: you know it just I'm just saying, you know, it
Speaker 1: depends on situation.
Speaker 2: I think when you make your partner feel really good
Speaker 2: and stable and like great, they're not going anywhere. And
Speaker 2: I think when you don't take care of your home,
Speaker 2: then you make it very easy for someone to creep
Speaker 2: in out of the back door.
Speaker 1: So outside of this relationship, not talking about ours, have
Speaker 1: you experienced jealousy and past relationships? Yeah, totally from you
Speaker 1: or from.
Speaker 2: The guy No, I dated someone that was so jealous
Speaker 2: I couldn't wear leggings. Yeah, like literally could not wear leggings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know this story so for good reason.
Speaker 2: No, but I literally couldn't leave my house and it
Speaker 2: was like a new relationship. And he's like, if you're
Speaker 2: not with me, I mean, if you're not with your kids,
Speaker 2: you're definitely with me. It's not like you're ever going
Speaker 2: to leave me to go hang out with your friends.
Speaker 2: And I kind of.
Speaker 1: Thought, that's that's too much. I feel like that's corolling.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's controlling and possessiveness, not necessarily jealous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like jealousy most often than not. You know,
Speaker 1: you'll get an emotion or a feeling, type of feeling
Speaker 1: around a certain circumstance. But you know, how you handle
Speaker 1: that is you know, is it can be different, It
Speaker 1: could vary. But what you're talking about, I think that's controlling.
Speaker 1: That's like, oh, if you're not with me, you ain't
Speaker 1: with your friends, you better be with your family. Like
Speaker 1: that's a little too much.
Speaker 2: It's a lot.
Speaker 1: Is it a turnoff? When sure there's jealousy.
Speaker 2: Like that, Yeah, I think it has to be like
Speaker 2: a touch of it, like a touch of jealousy. That's
Speaker 2: like you know that the person cares, the person is
Speaker 2: like on you, but like not too much. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: it definitely can backfire. If you're super jealous, you push
Speaker 2: the person away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, That's exactly what I was going to say.
Speaker 1: I feel like in previous relationships, if somebody is too jealous,
Speaker 1: then it leads to them constantly being up under you
Speaker 1: or questioning you, or you know, there's no trust. And
Speaker 1: I feel like in my past, if there was no trust,
Speaker 1: then most often than not, I either ended it or
Speaker 1: I was looking for a way out. You know.
Speaker 2: So that's normal, That's very normal. I mean, it's jealousy
Speaker 2: a turn off for you?
Speaker 1: Uh No, I think it's you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's okay.
Speaker 2: So do you think okay? So do you think that
Speaker 2: it's bad if the person that you're with is not jealous? Like,
Speaker 2: am I jealous to you?
Speaker 1: That's a trick, that's a trick. Question. You have your
Speaker 1: moments where you're protective. I don't necessarily, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say you're jealous, but there are times
Speaker 1: where you like to be inquisitive and know what exactly
Speaker 1: is going on. You know, I think that's I think
Speaker 1: one of your confident I was just about to say,
Speaker 1: one of your favorite things is protecting your mental and
Speaker 1: I think the best way that you like to protect
Speaker 1: your mental is to fully understand the big picture, whether
Speaker 1: that be a friendship that I have or somebody that
Speaker 1: comes up. For example, when we were walking into Rolling Loud, okay,
Speaker 1: and we kind of cut the line. You know, we're
Speaker 1: walking with Natty and Joe. I mean we were meeting Jojo,
Speaker 1: but walking with Natty, who you know, they own Rolling Loud,
Speaker 1: And so there was a huge line at the Loud
Speaker 1: club right in the VIP and we kind of walked
Speaker 1: through the VIP and all of a sudden, girls are
Speaker 1: saying Marcus, Marcus, Marcus, because it was you know, there
Speaker 1: were some friends that I knew from Orlando who were
Speaker 1: waiting to get in line. And so did you get
Speaker 1: jealous over that? Yeah, a little bit, I don't think,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, but I mean you were protecting. You
Speaker 1: definitely wanted to know who was yelling.
Speaker 2: And for me, I just keep calling your name.
Speaker 1: And I was like I had my head down, head low, like.
Speaker 2: I was not scared because you thought I was going
Speaker 2: to be like CARDIV with the mic.
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't necessarily scared. But it's just like you know,
Speaker 1: in those instances where you're cutting the line, you're walking
Speaker 1: past people, you don't want to make eye contact with
Speaker 1: anybody because if it is somebody that you know pretty well,
Speaker 1: you're not trying to add on to the crew that
Speaker 1: we already were, you know, had. So I just think
Speaker 1: that was an instance of not necessarily you being jealous,
Speaker 1: but you don't love you. You're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: I just love you, what's at play? Who's what's the
Speaker 1: bigger picture? You know?
Speaker 2: And I love you too, man, So what do you think? Wait,
Speaker 2: do you think there's like a healthy amount of jealousy
Speaker 2: in a relationship? Like, do you think we're in a
Speaker 2: healthy place for like both of us?
Speaker 1: I do think that there is. I think jealousy is
Speaker 1: healthy for relationship because one, it shows that you care too,
Speaker 1: you know, it shows that you are interested in actually
Speaker 1: understanding and getting to know your partner better, you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of their relationships and friendships, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there could be a healthy amount of jealousy.
Speaker 1: I think all relationships have some amount some is greater
Speaker 1: than others.
Speaker 2: You know, I think so too about you? What about?
Speaker 2: What do you think of partners who react to jealousy
Speaker 2: with words like you're crazy, you're paranoid, like yeah.
Speaker 1: Like stuff like that.
Speaker 2: After cheaters, when you say things like that, you're like
Speaker 2: a full blown cheater.
Speaker 1: I feel like those types of responses can be triggering,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and like it doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: help the situation at hand, because then you get you
Speaker 1: come off defensive, and so now the other person thinks
Speaker 1: maybe there's more there, right, you know, so then you know,
Speaker 1: maybe while you're sleeping, somebody's gonna go through your phone
Speaker 1: or you know they're gonna they're gonna there will be
Speaker 1: big extreme measures.
Speaker 2: Women are known for digging. We like to dig and
Speaker 2: see what's going on.
Speaker 1: And so wait, can you tell me why women like
Speaker 1: to dig? Is it because because they.
Speaker 2: Just want to know what's up?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they should know what's up. I think
Speaker 2: I think if everyone was honest, So what if I'm
Speaker 2: super super duper honest.
Speaker 1: I feel like I am too.
Speaker 2: I'm very honest, Like I tell you exactly what it is, like.
Speaker 2: I remember when I got this tattoo love. And I
Speaker 2: remember I got this tattoo and I had this whole
Speaker 2: conversation with like this person that I was with, and
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, just so you know, going forward,
Speaker 2: like I gave you so much love and I never
Speaker 2: got it back. I will never be faithful to you again,
Speaker 2: Like all bets are off. And I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: like that, I kind of like say it, and once
Speaker 2: I say it, I feel like I understand it for myself.
Speaker 2: I've said it to the world, like to myself and
Speaker 2: to the person. I can move forward and I don't
Speaker 2: need to respect our relationship anymore. I don't like I'm
Speaker 2: good with whatever. Yeah, And so I do feel like
Speaker 2: I'm very open and honest like that, Like I don't
Speaker 2: play games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's that should be appreciated because
Speaker 1: you know, most often than not, people play games, people cheat,
Speaker 1: people lie, and I think you know, that's where I
Speaker 1: just I don't think that that's healthy. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: could lead to other bad habits. And so all right,
Speaker 1: I think that's enough about jealousy. You know, working up some.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling i feel like I'm jealous that you're sitting
Speaker 2: too far from me.
Speaker 1: So get over here, bab Let's talk about fubbing. Okay,
Speaker 1: are you guilty of fu?
Speaker 2: Is fubbing?
Speaker 1: So? Fubbing is a modern phenomenon which is a mix
Speaker 1: of two words phone and snubbing. And so essentially, fubbing
Speaker 1: is when you ignore your romantic partner for your digital devices.
Speaker 1: For example, your partner's in the same room, but you're
Speaker 1: scrolling endlessly or answering messages that aren't urgent. And so
Speaker 1: research shows that the practice of fubbing is causing increased
Speaker 1: conflict and reduced intimacy.
Speaker 2: I could see that.
Speaker 1: And so are you guilty of fubbing? Baby?
Speaker 2: Okay? So yeah I am, but no I want to
Speaker 2: beat you to that. Y Okay, I am like to
Speaker 2: fu Okay, now me let me let me. I do
Speaker 2: like to fub but I'm always including you in the conversations.
Speaker 2: It'll be like a business thing and I'll be like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm texting this person about this, or I'm replying back
Speaker 2: to an email. But it's never like me just looking
Speaker 2: through Instagram or like stuff like that. When we're together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like offen times when you fub and
Speaker 1: I think we're both everybody is guilty of fubbing at
Speaker 1: some point. But I feel like yesterday we went to
Speaker 1: lunch and you were fubbing me. You had to take
Speaker 1: calls and you had to answer text. But I do
Speaker 1: think it's because you wear multiple hats. You know, you've
Speaker 1: got four kids, You've got businesses that you're running, you know,
Speaker 1: and so it's understandable and reasonable to expect that every
Speaker 1: now and then you might have to answer a call
Speaker 1: while we're at lunch or on a date. You know.
Speaker 2: But do you feel like if you tell the person
Speaker 2: like I'm doing this, or like include them in what
Speaker 2: you're doing, do you feel like that makes it better?
Speaker 1: It definitely makes it better, but it's still fubbing because
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, if we if we, you know,
Speaker 1: say that we're going out on a date or we're
Speaker 1: going to lunch, then I think the expectation is that
Speaker 1: your full attention is going to be part of the date.
Speaker 1: You know, not just yours, but mine too, and so
Speaker 1: you know, I think a little bit of fubbing doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I think what would drive me crazy is that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's different seasons where you're busier than others,
Speaker 1: and so if you're in your busy season, and then
Speaker 1: your significant other is like, oh, you're fubbing me, You're
Speaker 1: fubbing me, You're fubbing me. Then like that could get
Speaker 1: annoying because sometimes you got to handle work work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like as long as it's like stuff
Speaker 2: for me, I don't like to let things pile up,
Speaker 2: Like I hate that feeling. If I like don't handle
Speaker 2: things like emails or like people attorneys that are calling
Speaker 2: me and stuff, I just feel like I'm holding everyone up.
Speaker 2: Or if I a group text like with the Luho people,
Speaker 2: I just feel like I don't want to be the
Speaker 2: one that's holding up what's you know, like the business
Speaker 2: right exactly. So I always like to reply and I
Speaker 2: like to make sure everyone understands what my views are
Speaker 2: on X, Y and Z. And I feel like sometimes
Speaker 2: when you kind of put it off, it's kind of
Speaker 2: like slows the whole process down.
Speaker 1: Right now, I do like.
Speaker 2: To handle it, but I do feel like I do
Speaker 2: include you and all of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes you're overly inclusive, Like sometimes I don't.
Speaker 2: Want it's too much.
Speaker 1: It's not that it's too much, it's just that I
Speaker 1: don't feel like it's my place to get involved you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I don't want to be
Speaker 1: that person to you know, I just hate like when
Speaker 1: it's not somebody's business and they constantly insert themselves. I'm
Speaker 1: the polar opposite of that, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm like waiting, but you know what, I'm waiting until
Speaker 1: the teacher calls on me to like that.
Speaker 2: You're like that though, Yeah, I like that too with you.
Speaker 2: I don't like insert myself and your stuff.
Speaker 1: You definitely, you definitely don't.
Speaker 2: We're both I think we're both alike in so many
Speaker 2: different ways because we're both like that, like we're not
Speaker 2: trying to like overdo our position.
Speaker 1: We kind of like, I think we want to be
Speaker 1: complimentary to each other, not necessarily controlling or totally you know. So, wait,
Speaker 1: would you date or marry a pubber?
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're working and I listen, I you
Speaker 2: would marry someone where you communicate with them and if
Speaker 2: that bothered you, then you would tell them that you
Speaker 2: didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'm going to marry a fubber
Speaker 1: because you'd like the fub Oh sorry exactly. So can
Speaker 1: be argue that being on your phone is dedicated time
Speaker 1: to yourself, which is also important in maintaining healthy relationships.
Speaker 2: No, because I feel like for me, it's always work.
Speaker 1: You know. I feel like, out of the two of us,
Speaker 1: I can live without my phone. I'm perfectly fine without
Speaker 1: my phone. My phone dies all the time. It does
Speaker 1: obviously not when i'm you know, when I'm with you,
Speaker 1: my phone dies all the time. And so like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, out of the two of us, I can
Speaker 1: definitely go without a phone. I don't think you can
Speaker 1: live without a phone, mainly because your kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because feel like I always have my kids. But
Speaker 2: you know what I was telling you, I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: I kind of want to go somewhere and just turn
Speaker 2: off my phone for like five days and just have
Speaker 2: my kids call your phone.
Speaker 1: If they need love it, love it.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like I want to do that
Speaker 2: because I don't know how to like stop replying to
Speaker 2: like emails or like text messaging, because I feel like
Speaker 2: I don't like to let people down. Yeah, I reply
Speaker 2: people like literally. I had a masseuse that asked me
Speaker 2: for like twenty five thousand dollars via text, and I
Speaker 2: had to reply to her, and I'm like, why am
Speaker 2: I even replying to this person because it's just like
Speaker 2: so crazy that.
Speaker 1: You're like would have got blocked.
Speaker 2: I know, but I just, I just I don't like
Speaker 2: to leave people on like like unread. I like to
Speaker 2: like reply like whatever does that? I'm always like, I
Speaker 2: just I go to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Especially if you come like that, you come asking for
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars, I'm not hitting you back for
Speaker 1: like six months. Whatever event is happening, that's got to.
Speaker 2: Blow over before I you I need to be more
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's move on. Have you ever been benched before?
Speaker 1: There's a new micro dating trend called benching, and according
Speaker 1: to Psychology Today expert doctor Bruce Y Lee, benching occurs
Speaker 1: when someone keeps you around as a backup because the
Speaker 1: person is interested in someone else.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's why everyone's single in today's world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you're.
Speaker 2: Always feeling like you can get better. Okay, so you're
Speaker 2: dating a bunch of people all my friends, this is
Speaker 2: where my friends like.
Speaker 1: I think you're notorious in talking to your friends about
Speaker 1: you got to have a roster. You gotta have a roster,
Speaker 1: you know. And so this is I think an additional
Speaker 1: component to that. So who are you benching? Who's your
Speaker 1: starting five? You know, you specifically, But I think it's
Speaker 1: it's a modern day thing, having a roster and having
Speaker 1: to bench some people totally.
Speaker 2: But I also feel like it's it's what happens in
Speaker 2: today's world, in today's dating world. Yeah, everyone has so
Speaker 2: many options, and you're only as good as your options.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny. I feel like guys always
Speaker 2: want the one girl that every guy wants, I think,
Speaker 2: So I.
Speaker 1: Beg to disagree. I don't know. I think it depends
Speaker 1: on the guy number one. And I've always been prior
Speaker 1: to you, you know, I always had a joke with
Speaker 1: my friends that, like, if I was going to get married,
Speaker 1: she probably wouldn't speak English, Like, I'm gonna go find
Speaker 1: the most beautiful girl in the world that lives out
Speaker 1: of the country, that knows nothing about all of this
Speaker 1: hoopola bs that we live in. I wasn't gonna move.
Speaker 1: I was she was going to move. I was going
Speaker 1: to bring her back to the States, you know, And
Speaker 1: so that was a running joke that I have with
Speaker 1: my friends. Now I've obviously my position has changed a
Speaker 1: little bit on that, But I've never been the one
Speaker 1: to like go and see like, oh, so and so
Speaker 1: has been with this person, that person I'm trying to
Speaker 1: go be with her, Like, nah, I don't you know.
Speaker 1: They don't necessarily work like that for me.
Speaker 2: I think there's like signs to the fact when you're
Speaker 2: getting benched.
Speaker 1: Yeah and so talk about the five signs baby.
Speaker 2: So I think it's like inconsistency when a person acts
Speaker 2: in a very inconsistent manner, like they may call you,
Speaker 2: they may not. You can't really rely on the person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of my biggest pet peeves. I feel
Speaker 1: like if I was trying to pursue a woman and
Speaker 1: like I'm texting you, like everybody has their phone in
Speaker 1: their hands constantly, at least within the next ninety minutes
Speaker 1: or two hours of a day, and so like if
Speaker 1: I'm texting a girl and I don't get a response
Speaker 1: for like two or three days, like I can tell
Speaker 1: that I'm being benched and I'm moving on to the
Speaker 1: next you know.
Speaker 2: But I also feel like girls do that purposefully. Like
Speaker 2: I used to do that, and I would tell guys,
Speaker 2: I'd be like, hey, don't rely, like I say, I'll
Speaker 2: call you back in like twenty minutes, and I would
Speaker 2: forget and then I would tell them the next day.
Speaker 2: They'd be like, you were supposed to call me, and
Speaker 2: I'd be like, don't rely on me calling thirsty.
Speaker 1: First of all, I would never. I would never. I
Speaker 1: would say that girl.
Speaker 2: Like I would say, don't rely on Say a lot
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for you to call me, and if you don't,
Speaker 1: then I'm talking to X, Y and Z.
Speaker 2: You're moving on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not waiting for nobody. But you know, I
Speaker 1: just feel like that would be an indication that you're
Speaker 1: being benched. Just like, all right, it's been three days,
Speaker 1: Surety hasn't hit me back. Yeah, I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: I went to the next right.
Speaker 2: Or like I'll check my calendar, like let me see
Speaker 2: what I'm going on next week. I'm not sure what
Speaker 2: I'm going on next week. That's like, that's something indicating bunched.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, because people make time for the people
Speaker 1: that they want to spend time with, even if it's
Speaker 1: like a Netflix and chill or a late night movie
Speaker 1: date or you know what I'm saying, Like, if you
Speaker 1: want to kick it with somebody's chances are you going
Speaker 1: to move some shit around to.
Speaker 2: Kick it with them one thousand per time. But I
Speaker 2: also feel like you should listen to your intuition. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like if you're if you feel
Speaker 2: like you're not being a priority, then you're probably not
Speaker 2: a priority.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I definitely agree with that. I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, people prioritize things that they want, you know,
Speaker 1: people that they like, and.
Speaker 2: Things are going for the things they want to do.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's always time, and I feel like
Speaker 2: that's like, you know, a major indicator and if you're
Speaker 2: being bunched or not.
Speaker 1: And so they talk about other dates and xcees often too,
Speaker 1: and so the cardinal Worle do not discuss your x
Speaker 1: on a first day even frequently, unless sharing a lesson learned.
Speaker 2: I feel like I kind of talk about my exes,
Speaker 2: but not like in a weird way, like in a
Speaker 2: like thank God I'm with you today.
Speaker 1: With you today, you do you talk about your previous experiences,
Speaker 1: but I feel like, like what this says, you often
Speaker 1: talk about like what you learned from them or how
Speaker 1: you become better from you know that situation. And so
Speaker 1: if interactions feel one sided, check if you're doing all
Speaker 1: the work. If you're the only one talking, if you're
Speaker 1: the only one reaching out, texting, most often than that,
Speaker 1: chances are you're being benched. So those are five signs
Speaker 1: for our listeners. If you're being benched, send us a
Speaker 1: message on.
Speaker 2: You know what you know what you could do when
Speaker 2: you feel like you're being benched?
Speaker 1: What can you do?
Speaker 2: Block the person?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, you know, for me, it's today.
Speaker 2: Or just say something really crazy to them and then
Speaker 2: they're like, oh my gosh, you crazy. At least your
Speaker 2: crazy instead of being benched. I rather guys think I
Speaker 2: was crazy than like just thinking that I was basic.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean for me, I've always been like I
Speaker 1: like to be upfront, honest or blunt, you know. And
Speaker 1: so if I'm not feeling you, I'm not feeling you,
Speaker 1: you know, or if I got other things going on,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it a buck, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: I got other you know. Yeah, I got other things
Speaker 1: going on, you know. And so most often than not,
Speaker 1: at least prior to our relationship, that never really deterred anybody.
Speaker 1: I think it makes I feel like girls want what
Speaker 1: they can't have in some circumstances and so if girls
Speaker 1: think that you're talking to other women, you know, they'll
Speaker 1: try to show you why you shouldn't be talking to
Speaker 1: other women by you know, going above and.
Speaker 2: Beyond well, you know, it's kind of like having a roster.
Speaker 2: Like I was telling my single friends, you need to
Speaker 2: have like a few guys that you talk to in
Speaker 2: that way. Sometimes when you just talk to one person,
Speaker 2: you give them so much attention and you blow up
Speaker 2: their head and all of a sudden, they feel so
Speaker 2: good about themselves. They start dogging you.
Speaker 1: They feel like they conquered the question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do. And I feel like sometimes when
Speaker 2: you're when you initially start talking to one person, you
Speaker 2: should be talking to other people, and that way you
Speaker 2: don't have as much time to focus on that one person.
Speaker 2: And it's really immature. I'm not gonna lie, it's really immature.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's the way it's really three.
Speaker 2: I feel like, I know, but that's kind of how
Speaker 2: you have to be in twenty twenty three. To lock
Speaker 2: down like a guy that you like, you have to
Speaker 2: play them to the last. Yeah, feel and they like
Speaker 2: you more.
Speaker 1: You got to have rosters, you game guys. You've got
Speaker 1: to be ready to play different sports, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying in different industry, so you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like when I was single, I definitely had
Speaker 1: a few teams rosters, you know.
Speaker 2: But I feel like, if he's the right person, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I feel like I never really like to
Speaker 2: play games, but I could write a book about playing games,
Speaker 2: for sure. But I do feel like if he's the
Speaker 2: right person for you, and you're the right person for him, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't think you need to do all that. It's
Speaker 2: like you both meet in the middle and you're just
Speaker 2: like at the right place at the right time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But I do feel like I give my friends a
Speaker 2: lot of advice, and I feel like all the advice
Speaker 2: that I give them is basically with your starting five.
Speaker 1: Like, I feel like timing is everything, you know, because
Speaker 1: when you're young and you want to be single, you know,
Speaker 1: then that's where you know, you might have a deep roster,
Speaker 1: or you're playing some of those you know, some of
Speaker 1: those dating games positions or whatever. But as you get
Speaker 1: older or as you start looking for, you know, just
Speaker 1: solidarity and stability, you know, some of those some of
Speaker 1: those people you got to cut, you know, Yeah, some
Speaker 1: of those players you got to wave and so have
Speaker 1: you ever benched someone and didn't even realize it? No?
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, you know, when you're not
Speaker 2: really feeling someone.
Speaker 1: Have you been benched and how long did it take
Speaker 1: to notice it?
Speaker 2: No, because I feel like I don't really expect anything
Speaker 2: from anyone. I'm the kind of person like you have
Speaker 2: to do so much for me initially to show me
Speaker 2: that you like me, or I don't care, Like I.
Speaker 1: Feel like you've You've always been the team captain, you
Speaker 1: call the shots, you know, and so I just I
Speaker 1: can never picture you being benched.
Speaker 2: Well, No, because I understand, like I understand in the
Speaker 2: game of life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like you most often than not,
Speaker 1: when guys are pursuing you, you control the pace. You know,
Speaker 1: at least the woman always typically controls the pace. If
Speaker 1: you want to hook up, then you'll hook up. If
Speaker 1: you want to slow play it and learn more about
Speaker 1: the guy, you'll probably you know, slow play it. And
Speaker 1: I don't know. For me, I feel like there's maybe
Speaker 1: been times where I've been benched just because I was
Speaker 1: open and honest that I had a deep roster, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so sometimes girls aren't feeling
Speaker 1: that sometimes, you know, it becomes a challenge to them.
Speaker 2: I feel like for most women, I think that like
Speaker 2: you have to like like for me personally, I feel
Speaker 2: like a guy has to do a lot to show
Speaker 2: me that he wants to be with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree with that.
Speaker 2: You have to put in time, you have to put
Speaker 2: in calls, you have to like do things for me
Speaker 2: to make me feel like you want to be with me,
Speaker 2: because if you're just calling, you're texting me when you want, like,
Speaker 2: you're not even, you're not even you don't even know
Speaker 2: where my gym.
Speaker 1: Is, right, Yeah, No, I feel that. I feel that
Speaker 1: what if someone just wants to take it slow and
Speaker 1: keep their options open, is that well.
Speaker 2: That's because you're not that's because you feel like you
Speaker 2: haven't hit your peak.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Or maybe some people just aren't you know, interested
Speaker 1: in settling down right now. Let me look at Drake
Speaker 1: for example. Drake, you know is notoriously single and dating
Speaker 1: and having fun and not interested in having a wife,
Speaker 1: and so you know, obviously his options are open.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you're only as good as your options.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure the boy has plenty of options, for sure,
Speaker 1: plenty of options.
Speaker 2: As long as he's happy and fields fulfilled, why not.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I also feel like when you're an artist, you need
Speaker 2: to have a lot of different flavors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to have experiences in life, stuff going
Speaker 1: on in your life.
Speaker 2: Creativity you need to have like a crazy girl, a
Speaker 2: smart girl, a classy girl.
Speaker 1: I don't have a roster.
Speaker 2: You definitely need a roster for content. Like I get
Speaker 2: it because I feel like when I was single, I
Speaker 2: felt like I had to talk to different guys for
Speaker 2: different things, like reasons, Like I had a really smart
Speaker 2: tech guy that I used to talk to that I
Speaker 2: love talking Tom because he would like tell me he
Speaker 2: you know, made three hundred million dollars in less than
Speaker 2: twenty four hours, or I raised a billion dollars my
Speaker 2: company with Unicorn, Like I loved having those kind of relationships,
Speaker 2: and then I liked having athlete relationship, like just like
Speaker 2: different friendships. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's more so of you leaving a
Speaker 1: relationship and trying to figure out what's next, right exactly,
Speaker 1: And so of course you know you're single, you're gonna
Speaker 1: date whoever. Yeah, you know you're attracted to to figure
Speaker 1: out what you really like, especially haven't been married at
Speaker 1: so young at twenty one. Yeah, I feel like for me,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the opposite. I feel like I've I'm thirty two,
Speaker 1: never been married, no kids, and so I've been playing
Speaker 1: the field trying to figure out, all right, is this
Speaker 1: something that I want to do one day? And I
Speaker 1: don't know. We're getting warmer. Okay, we're getting warmer.
Speaker 2: Good what kind?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, I had a great time talking to you guys today.
Speaker 1: Same here, bab. It was fun.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for hanging out with us today. We
Speaker 2: really appreciate you.
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