WEBVTT - Stephanie Boswell 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.120 When I do live gigs around the country, I'll be 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:04.880 honest with you. I sell T shirts and swag to 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.120 the folks who are there, and then people always say, 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:09.640 can we get this swag without sitting through a whole 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:13.760 evening of you. Well, it's happened. It's finally here. You 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.160 can buy Craig Ferguson Merch on the Craig Ferguson Merch 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.280 website and you can buy it for yourself or someone 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.159 you hate or someone you love. For more information and 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.520 link to the web store, please go to the Craig 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:29.080 Fergusonshow dot com. That's all lowercase, the Craig Ferguson show 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:33.879 dot com. My name is Craig Ferguson. The name of 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:39.400 this podcast is Joy. I talk to interesting people about 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:46.320 what brings them happiness. Sorry for eating, I'm just finishing 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:52.400 my Faberja egg because my guest today is Stephanie Boswell, 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.480 who is the creator of one of the most famous 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:58.600 desserts in the world, the Faberge egg. 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:09.679 That she's really clear, verty funny, enjoy. 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:15.680 How have you been you know, kind of okay, just okay, yeah, 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:20.160 i'd be busy. You basically don't know what happened. I 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.040 started like I didn't work for a while. I don't 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:27.839 know if you've ever tried this, but like not working, Oh. 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.160 Yeah, I gave it a go. I did not care 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.640 for it. Personally, it sucks. 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.720 It's the worst, Like you don't work and you just 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:39.319 sit around thinking about things that you're not or scrolling. 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:40.600 Scrolling. 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:41.800 Yeah, you a scroller. 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.880 I just recently became a scroller, and I'm going to 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.920 be honest, it's the worst thing that's ever happened to me. 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.840 Or the human race maybe potentially. Yeah, it's awful. 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:57.240 I've never in my life had trouble sleeping until the 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:58.280 short format. 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.800 Yeah. Scroll, it's that little magnifying glass on Instagram. People 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:05.040 listen to this podcast will get get really mad, probably 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.920 because I say this at every episode, and I feel 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.600 like they feel like I'm judging them and I'm not 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.480 judging them, but I don't like it for. 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:12.880 Myself much judgment. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:14.720 I'm a fucking judging man. 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.560 I I and I feel it's sitting here right now. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:18.640 You know I'm not judging. 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.440 You're walking looking like a bratstall that might kill you, 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.360 like the chucky version of a brat stall, and the 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.200 judgment no judgment. 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.560 You said you look, I said you look, I said 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:34.160 you look sensational. You do look like a golf bratstall though. 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:38.480 I think it's great. It's a fabulous look. You are 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.760 the best pastry chef in the world officially. Is that right? 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.880 Oh my god? No, I am not even close, not 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:46.400 even close. 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.640 No, it's true because I have I don't know if 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.600 you know this. You know how David Lynch has Best 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:55.200 Dressed People of the Year. Sure, well, I have my 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.280 own version of that. It's Pastry Chef for the Year. 0:02:58.680 --> 0:02:59.600 And you've won. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.920 Oh my god, oh my god. Can we cuse some 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:04.960 kind of music, like a swell of. 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.320 There and then there'll be a prize obviously what. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:14.240 Kind of prize? What's the prize? Is there prize money involved? 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.520 Get you get a ham. 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:16.200 Type of hand? 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:16.440 Is it? 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:17.200 Honey baked? 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.000 I don't know. You're the chef? Do you you get 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:21.080 you get a roll hand? 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:25.600 You just got to pick. You got pig, you get 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:26.400 to raise get out. 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.120 You got a pig. You have to raise the peg 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.120 slower the peg, guys, you would name it. Have you 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:32.160 ever had to do that? 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:32.760 I have? 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:34.720 I have see I thought I don't think I could 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.960 be a chef because I think all that like killing 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:38.840 stuff way you kill stuff. 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.280 I did when I was younger. I used to spend 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.960 time on on a ranch over the summer to build 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:44.440 a character. 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.040 Right, was it one of these skip straight things and 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:49.000 you tell something? 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.760 It was? It was Sally Jesse. Raphael actually said me 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:58.440 there and and yeah, you you kind of you become 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.720 accustomed to the idea of like certain animals you name 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.680 and certain animals you don't. And the ones you name 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.520 like work around the ranch, they have a. 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:09.760 Job, horses and stuff, horses. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:14.240 Dogs, cats, you know, things like that, But thousands of cows. 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.679 No, you don't, don't get named. 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:18.760 You don't really want to get attached in that iron. 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.120 Well, man, I just I don't think I could do it, 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:22.800 Like even people who go hunting. I'm like, I don't 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:23.440 think I could. 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.680 Do it, you know, hunting is I mean, I sort 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:29.479 of appreciate hunting in that idea of you know, when 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.560 I feel like vegans would sort of appreciate a hunter, 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.279 you know, like I feel like a vegan would go 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.719 you know what depends on the vegan. You took it down, fair, 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:39.680 fair dudes. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.800 Well okay, yeah, I mean you took it down with 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:45.320 what are you an ak forty seven or a knife 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:46.200 between your teeth? 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:46.440 You know? 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.480 Is that a fair fight? Or yeah? 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.600 Are you? Are you hunting it with a bow and arrow? 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:56.760 Or is it is it some sort of like mass. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:58.120 Also bone arrow? Like if you have you been all 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.000 bean in Maine and seeing the boat you could the 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.239 bon arrows you can buy, It's like, this is not really, 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.080 this is not Robin Hood we're talking to. 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.719 I haven't, honestly, I've The first time I went to 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:14.680 Maine was what two years ago? Take and it's absolutely gorgeous. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:20.000 I here's here's a fun fact. I am horrible with geography, 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:25.760 specifically American geography. I didn't realize Maine was part of 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:26.440 New England. 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:27.919 What did you think it was? 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.320 I thought it was like kind of up by like 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.960 Canada Canada. Yeah, but I didn't realize that also New 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:38.120 England was the accent threw me for a bit of 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.920 a loop because it was it was a bit family guy. 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:43.280 Yeah, and it was definitely a little family guy. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:43.520 Yeah. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.640 That's that said in Rhode Island, doesn't it which is 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.120 near I see where I see the problem. Now I 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.680 see what you're saying. I'm sorry I didn't understand for 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:52.960 a minute. Now I understand. 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.200 I don't know, but I'm terrible a joke. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.720 You're the best pasty chef in the world. You won 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:02.080 the Craig Ferguson Eamed Pastry Chef Challenge. 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.480 And that I am forever great. 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:07.159 Fu Well you want to that thing you like you 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.640 that made you famous is a pastry cheff? The faberg 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.440 egg thing? Is that made of actual gold? 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:13.280 Yeah? 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:14.440 There's real gold in it? Right? 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:14.960 Yeah? 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:15.839 How did you make a fact? 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:16.000 Like? 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.120 Can you give a recipe? O? Can you say this 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:18.840 is how I do it? 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:19.080 Or? 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:23.240 Sure? I mean it's it's more it's more technique than 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.000 anything else. The ingredients would necessarily I. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.919 Thought, it's like somebody saying, oh, I've got some wheels 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.640 and an engine, go make yourself car. Sure. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:33.920 Yeah, it's a little bit like I've got I've got 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.839 metal and rubber. I made a model. 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:41.240 Tea, right, So but like skill, Yeah, the the. 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.280 Raw ingredients are there for everyone. But yeah, it's basically 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.320 just casting and you know the best ingredients you can find. 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.920 And then at that after that point it becomes sort 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.359 of just how do you manipulate those ingredients to be 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.719 the most beautiful, perfect that you possibly can and. 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.719 They're tasting along the way though. Oh yeah, because I 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.880 mean it's such an an thing to make a fabergy 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:06.600 egg out of basically, I guess sugar, mostly chocolate, chocolate. 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:09.800 I just I would just start crying and knee all 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.160 the chocolate. That's that's my technique. 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.920 That's also part of the part of the methodology. Yeah, 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.040 that's a that's a big part of it. Halfway through 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.320 you begin to cry and just eat and just and 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:22.520 just eat it and then start over. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.280 And how did you start off being? Like, did you 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:26.960 like when you were a little girly, like I want 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:27.920 to be a pastry chef? 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:33.360 No, no, no, I wanted I mean, well, you know, 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.160 I wanted to be all kinds of things when I 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.680 was really little. I read The Hot Zone when I 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.400 was like twelve. It's a book about ebola, and. 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.080 Oh, you wanted to be a virus. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.760 I wanted to be. I wanted to grow up to 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:47.320 be the best virus I could. 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:48.480 Yeah, we got one. 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.440 I wanted to be an epidemiologist or a virologist. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.400 That was that was science though it's sciences, it's it's 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.560 sent to it. So you wanted to be Uh, well, 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.680 you into Kate emistry, then you're chemistry, right, so now 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:04.840 it begins to make sense, it begins to take shit. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:09.080 So you're into chemistry because because what you do is 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.680 is really a science. It's a science and an r. 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.600 Yeah, you you definitely have to know, you know, because 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:16.720 a lot of people say, oh, I'm horrible at baking. 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.080 I'm terrible, I could never get it right, and it 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.840 really does become it's it's sort of it's science, and 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.640 it's also repetition. Right, there's nothing about what chefs do 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:30.680 that is so spectacular, like as chefs. I feel comfortable 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.000 in saying this. We didn't become chefs because NASA wasn't 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:38.160 challenging enough. You know, we didn't leave NAS and go, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:42.480 you know what, I just want to bake forget rockets, right, 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:46.080 forget rockets. We need we want to make mattresses, more chocolate, 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:51.000 more chocolate. So yeah, it's it's really just repetition. It's 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:56.880 access to ingredients, it's access to different equipment, which nowadays, 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:02.280 with you know, the Internet, yeah, is extremely accessible to 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:03.840 almost everyone. 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.240 Are you telling me that it's like practice? 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:07.480 I think I am. 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.440 It's like a musical instrument or something or like anything analysy, 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:11.360 you just got to keep doing. 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.920 Right, but do it for a living, and you got it, 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.240 and it's sort of incentive by that to you to 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:17.800 practice a little bit more. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.360 Because no one's going to let, you know, a twelve 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.280 year old girl who wants to be a virus coming 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.360 to catch it and make and make desert. 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:24.840 You'd be surprised. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.000 There has to be there has to be a journey 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:33.120 from you know, budding epidemiologist to you know, Fibershire egg 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.079 in Las Vegas. So what so what's the journey from 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:36.559 there to there? 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:36.760 Then? 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.679 So you what starts with why did you go off 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:40.199 your erms? 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.920 Well, it's sort of you know, it's one of those 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:48.720 uh it's it's the butterfly effect, right, right. So growing 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.520 up I was the youngest in my family. I was 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:55.000 the only girl, so I got a full attention from 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:58.960 my mother of you know, like getting the most sort 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.719 of education in the most exposure to different things. So 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.079 every weekend we would go to art museums and it 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.360 was very like it felt sort of like being a 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:11.080 human project, right, And so I grew up just loving 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.040 science and art and all of that, and then went 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:14.880 to college. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:15.400 And where did you grow up. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.840 I grew up in the Los Angeles, So. 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.040 So you're going to Mama and you're going to the 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:21.040 gaddy and going. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.240 To that me and like one guy named Da Wilson. 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.400 Yeah, you can't read Wilson. The only people I grew 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:27.079 up here has it. 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:33.040 Yeah, Mama Lacma was a huge one for me. The 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.800 Librea tar pits. I mean, you want to give a 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:37.920 kid a great day. 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.439 I have two children I've raised in Los Angeles, and 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.520 I'm familiar with your so called. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:47.720 Well no they're not so called. 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:48.719 They are. 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:52.480 So cold. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.080 The Scottish thing just like try and make everything if 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:02.520 it's and Scotland does tarpets were Yeah. 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.000 But then you go back to Scotland and I'm sure 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.199 people say you sound like Medline Monroe. 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.520 They get very Do people say you said in Scottish 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.720 when you're in Los Angeles? Yes, because you've been to Scotland. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.440 I saw you there, Yeah, I saw you. You were 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.120 at my house your birthday bush. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:19.760 You know. 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.240 By the way, did you get COVID That no, because 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:24.400 everybody got COVID. 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:25.120 Now I can't stop. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:31.520 Yeah, everybody got like fifty seven people go COVID stood the. 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.400 Most spectacular super spreader I've ever been. 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.280 It was a it was a bit of a super 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.200 It was a banger. It was a banger. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:39.000 Yeah, it was. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.400 It was a lot of COVID. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.079 I mean, no, I honestly think because we got COVID 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.240 upon returning, and I truly believe it was from the 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:53.199 because right when we were taking off was when the 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.600 mask mandate lifted. Right, We're sitting in the plane, right, 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:00.120 and they come over the PA system and say, the 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.719 mask mandate has been lifted. Yeah, if you want to 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.959 take your mask off, take it off, have fun. And 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:11.480 every literally the plane cheered, clapped and cheered, took their 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:15.000 masks off. It was a whole whole thing. And then 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:20.240 we come back and we're standing in line at customs 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.040 to get back into the country, and it is just 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:22.920 a cattle call. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.959 Yeah, I mean, just your boxed. I mean, you know 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.320 the global No, you got to get the global area. 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.720 I do now, but at the time I did, that's 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.920 a big difference. Well yeah, I know, well, well you 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:35.920 were still in al Qaeda. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:38.880 You're probably I. 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.400 Was flying the flag, you know. I mean, when you're younger, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.240 you do things that you regret. You know, you can't 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.719 take them back, you think about it later on and 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:47.320 you cringe. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.520 I you know, I have to say I feel for 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:51.880 the young people right now. All the stupid mistakes that 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.600 they're making, they're all going to be available. 0:12:55.160 --> 0:13:00.599 All documented, all documented. It's crazy, isn't it awful? So bad? Like? 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:03.640 On one hand, I feel, you know, like I feel 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.240 sort of like, oh, these kids aren't going to have 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:10.199 any of these embarrassing makeup and hair mistakes that I 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.280 had growing up. Of like, now I look back at 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.320 the way I styled myself when I was a teenager 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:20.400 in my early twenties and kind of recoil at what 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:21.520 was happening there. 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:22.160 Part of life. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.600 Yeah, they're not going to have that because they've got 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.920 you know, millions of tutorials on how to look beautiful 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:33.080 at all times. I disagree, Yeah, I disagree. Disagree. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.240 The only thing I think is because you still, even 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.280 no matter how whale it's applied, you're going to look 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.600 back at it ten years ago. The fuck was I thinking? 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.720 The other thing is it's it's recycling so fast now, 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.000 you know. It's like now now there's there's people on 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:51.520 you know, there's the YouTubers that do specifically makeup and beauty, 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.800 and they're saying things like twenty sixteen, makeup is back. 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:57.680 It's like twenty sixteen. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.599 That's like twenty minutes ago talking about it. 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.160 I just dreamed about Jurassics. What is happening? 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:15.559 Moms taking you to museums in Los Angeles and you're 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.400 looking at uh, well are you looking at? I guess 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.760 you're looking at everything. It's really eclectic. So from Barbizon, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:27.520 French Impressionists all the way up to Warhole, abstract Expressionism, 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:28.080 all that kind of. 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.520 Suff're looking at all of that everything. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.840 Can you think cake? And no? 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.920 No, not right away, No, not right away, not right away. 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:38.120 I thought, I like this, It's fantastic. It's something that, 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.760 you know, I find a lot of joy in spending 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.320 every weekend at a museum or the Huntington or going 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:47.440 to an opera like it all sort of influenced. And 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.840 then got into college and did you study at college 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:52.720 art history and chemistry? 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.760 Art history and chemistry? There now it begins to form 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.360 out of the mess right exactly. 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.240 And then I started doing sort of the ment whole 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.680 math of I don't actually want to do any of 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.480 the jobs that a degree in art history or chemistry 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.480 would lead to Okay, you know, I lead to. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.000 It guys like museum. 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:16.040 Creator, curator or you know, like lab tech. 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:21.240 Like I didn't wait, like way down the list, like 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:26.160 beyond what did you study communications in a way? 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.800 Yeah? I studied in a way. I studied chemistry and communications. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.680 These were my majors. So you're you're looking at these 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.160 things and none of the things that you're studying leads 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.200 you to the job you want, right And I didn't 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:38.440 know what. 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.080 I wanted at that point, you know, like I think now, 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.200 you know, as an adult looking back, it's really bizarre 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.280 and almost cruel to say, you're eighteen, what do you 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:49.160 want to do forever? 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:50.240 Couldn't agree more? 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:51.920 What do you want to do for the rest of 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.360 your life? Let me invest one hundred thousand dollars that 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.560 will cripple you financially into something. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.320 Do you want to think the way while since you've 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:02.520 been at college, I got kids. 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.080 Now it's s eyewatering. 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:08.880 Yeah, it's too much like a house. 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:13.520 But yeah, I basically I was sort of stock and 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.400 I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.080 And I was talking to my brother about it, and 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.120 I sort of had this I always loved to cook. 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.240 My grandmother taught me to cook. I cooked constantly. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:28.320 This is interesting because a lot of pastry chefs that 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.880 I know, and I admittedly you're the only one, but 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.320 a lot of cooks that people I know that work 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:38.240 in kitchens, and I do know my brother in laws 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.200 a chef and my sistant laws a chef, but they 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.760 kind of fall into people who cook or people who bake. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.000 Sure is that? Is that a real thing? 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:46.400 Sure? 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.840 It is so culinary. It the way I generally explained 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.840 it as culinary is just a big imagine it as 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.240 a big graph, like a big pie chart. Right within 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:01.920 that is specializations. So a specialization is pastry of coolinary. 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:03.560 You need to know how to cook in order to 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:08.439 do pastry right. And then from that specialization you can 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.760 specialize even further into all I do is vn waree 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:17.600 or all I do and ware is it like croissants laminated? 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.240 Does all of that like beautiful? 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:26.040 Exactly? And there's people who do like the most astounding 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.639 things with it that would I mean, just make your 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:32.879 nose bleed looking at them, like just incredible work. And 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:36.000 then from there you can also specialize in wedding cakes 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.159 all you do is wedding cakes. All you do is 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.440 sculptured cakes. All you do is ice cream. All you 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.040 do is sugar sculptures. All you do is chocolate sculptures. 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.399 There's so many different specializations, Like it's it's niche on 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:48.440 niche on niche. 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:52.000 I love this. Yeah, it's getting really interesting. Is that 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:52.600 what happened to you? 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:54.560 I'm glad, No, but is that what happened to you 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:54.960 that you. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:56.600 You kind of go, I like that, and then you 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:58.760 start to kind of zero in a little more on 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.280 on Yeah, how it makes you feel? Does make it 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:01.919 feel different? 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.159 I just sort of fell into it, honestly because I 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.200 was talking to my brother and he said, you know, 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.080 I said, I think I want to go to culinary 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.720 school and my family would you know, at that point 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.920 in time, cooking was not fashionable. Being a chef was 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:14.560 not fashionable. 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.600 It was not you said, the pre Bordain years. 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.359 Yeah, this was this was pre sort of food network years. 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:24.680 This was you know, cooking and being a chef was 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.480 sort of seen as a tradecraft. You know, it would 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:28.200 be the same as. 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.560 Like in America. I mean in France it's been. 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.080 For way back right, Oh, very different culture in France 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.040 about that. I mean, you can start when you're sixteen 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.960 and just go you know what high school was not 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.640 for me. I'd like to bake. And that's generally why 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.280 everyone feels a lot of kind of competitive spirit with 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:49.960 the French, right, is because they start from such a 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:52.320 young age and they have I mean, by the time 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.920