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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action

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Speaker 1: Network Huge Show. Today, I'm joined as always by my

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Speaker 2: Hello sim in Hello Chat, our last off season show, brother.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I'm not even thinking about it that way.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it as our first regular season show

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Speaker 1: in this episode, we're going to cover all of our

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Speaker 1: plus anything else that we've got in our portfolio heading

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Speaker 1: into Week one. I did some betting this weekend. I

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Speaker 1: I want to get your reaction to. I haven't heard

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Speaker 1: action network, dot com. Simon. In the last week, the

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Speaker 1: odds for the AFC East have changed dramatically. When we

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Speaker 1: talked about the AFCs a couple weeks ago, we love

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Speaker 1: the Bills at plus one seventy. Now the Jets are

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Speaker 1: plus one seventy and the Bills are plus one ninety five.

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Speaker 1: The dude, what do we think of this?

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Speaker 3: No, we love the Jets. We love the Jets.

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Speaker 2: It was plus one eighty when I said I thought

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Speaker 2: out now, the Bills are moving more towards plus two.

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Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, we're Jets. This is the Jets show

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Speaker 2: Yeah. My view of it was I thought the value

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Speaker 2: But it's just it's just tough man. The Bills just

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Speaker 2: it's been all good. I mean, the only negative right

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Speaker 2: of the day, I don't know if it's that big

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Speaker 3: Cancer has never really affected the team, so it.

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Speaker 2: To me, it honestly makes sense now, especially when you

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Speaker 2: factor in Chad the forty nine ers. We thought it'd

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Speaker 2: see what the odds have shifted, right. I just think

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Speaker 2: more people are more confident in that team now. Is

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Speaker 2: the weeks have gone along here, So yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, we're going to talk about it later in

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Speaker 1: the end of the show, we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: some of our favorite bets right now and for the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I have mentioned this several times. I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: first my favorite, one of my favorite bets. I did

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Speaker 1: Ten of the past eleven years, the Super Bowl matchup

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Speaker 1: so that included the Chiefs, Niners, Ravens, Lions, Bengals, and Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Chiefs Niners seventeen to one, Chiefs Eagles twenty eight to one,

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Speaker 2: I would take the Ravens out for Houston. I just

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Speaker 1: My honest to god sort of wild card of those three.

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Speaker 1: What's happening with the Bengals with Jamar Chase. This is

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Speaker 1: So I'm glad you're saying the Texans because I have

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Speaker 1: As the season goes on, even deep into the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: Like even once the playoffs start, I can start to

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Speaker 1: say the Texas. Nice give me something, Simon, I go,

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Speaker 2: Mine will be a little different. I'm gonna try to

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Speaker 2: fit a lot into a small space. So I'll give

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Speaker 2: you my four gross teams win totals, right, and Chad

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Speaker 2: knows these teams We've talked that nauging about it's start off.

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Speaker 2: grossovers and unders. I like, let's just run through it,

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna give you my chalk favorite overs and unders.

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Speaker 2: So these teams are bad teams, right, we all know that.

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Speaker 2: My whole idea here is they're not as bad as

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Speaker 2: you all perceive them to be. Right, This this team

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Speaker 2: where you talk all season about and I know the

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Speaker 2: fans of the show hate it. Carolina Panthers. Let's start

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Speaker 2: right there, Chad. When we start talking about them in May,

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Speaker 2: their win totals four and a half five. Not a

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Speaker 2: This is a team that the professionals love and the

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Speaker 2: a page on this team. Right, They're not what they

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Speaker 2: were last year. The coach better, The offensive line is

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Speaker 2: so much improved, you wouldn't believe it. The weapons, just

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Speaker 2: the weapons they've added too young I think are better

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Speaker 3: Were last year.

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Speaker 2: And then on the defensive side, yes, I have a

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Speaker 2: ton of questions about their secondary. The fact they lost

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Speaker 2: Burns is a big deal. He's one of the best

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Speaker 2: of a deal because they were so bad last year.

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Speaker 2: If you just bring in the right coaching, I think

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Speaker 2: that defense could take another step, especially in this division,

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Speaker 2: just a division that we think the Saints and the

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Speaker 2: Buccaneers will take a step back. Please Panthers over, that's

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Speaker 2: one of them, Chad, the next whole one.

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Speaker 1: Before you say that, do you worry that the number

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Speaker 2: So I don't mind it, though, like say it's a

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Speaker 2: So I don't hate it, but at least you're getting

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Speaker 3: I'm just I just wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: Go signing up for the contest. I can guarantee you.

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Speaker 1: I've got my list of five games that I've been

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Speaker 2: I know it sucks because again all the people listening,

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Speaker 3: Yeah we have to wait, I mean go.

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Speaker 2: If you can still get the Jets four and a

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Speaker 2: I just see those numbers keep coming down, So I

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Speaker 2: gross over. Give me the Raiders. I love this team

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Speaker 2: This is another team just like the Panthers. They have

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Speaker 3: Their season starts in a week, so very weird. What's

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Speaker 2: Right now the Raiders in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Alright, hold on, hold on, you know I love you

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Speaker 1: I've been trying so hard, Like this weekend, I like

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Speaker 1: When you break it down, you're like their secondary is terrible.

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Speaker 2: Because again, the vibes are now spect declar right now,

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Speaker 2: trying to bet off five. So let's talk about a

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Speaker 2: team that has great vibes Chad, same division, Denver Broncos

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Speaker 2: for the simple reason it's Sean Payton. Like Sean Payton

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Speaker 2: in all football. Denver's defense is atrocious. I mean they've

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Speaker 2: So the same thing I had with the Rams last year.

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Speaker 3: Happened with the Rams last year, right started out slow.

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Speaker 2: total because I think they're such a young team. It's

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Speaker 2: an accurate, not really thinking kind of quarterback and that's

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Speaker 2: exactly what bo Nicks does. He tells bon Nicks where

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Speaker 2: to put the ball. He's been doing that. So everything

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Speaker 2: I've read, everything I've seen from this team, I'm just

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Speaker 2: Do you want me negative chat or should keep going?

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Speaker 1: Bonnix is so old he might get my references.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're crazy when you see his age compared to

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Speaker 2: they're still younger than bo Knicks. All right, Well, ended

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Speaker 2: on my last one, Chad, Chad knows is coming Vikings

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're gonna talk about it. Convince me because

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Speaker 1: Also, I would say, I'm convinced me we're going to

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Speaker 2: The Vikings are one of these teams that I was

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Speaker 2: I just where am I finding them wins? Like I

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Speaker 2: The rest of it, I just can't see. I think

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Speaker 2: It's like, did he really make Kirk Cousins that much better?

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Speaker 2: I don't think he is. And now he has Sam

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Speaker 2: maybe he'll take another step. He's had over fifty starts

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Speaker 2: People like this ain't Josh Allen. This isn't some freak

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Speaker 3: He is what he is.

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Speaker 2: He'll be great for a quarter, dog shit for three quarters.

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Speaker 2: Like maybe you'll have a great game, then you'll have

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Speaker 2: the only hesitation for this team was the respect to

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Speaker 2: this team last year was incredible. They've added some pieces,

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Speaker 2: they are still a bottom thirty secondary. Like I don't care.

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't got thirty four year old Stefan Gilmore Like

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Speaker 2: that ain't moving the needle for me. Like they have

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Speaker 2: major issues. Their number one corner went out with injury.

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Speaker 2: Their third round pick passed away this offseason, who was

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Speaker 3: They've had really bad luck. We're trying to.

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Speaker 2: Fill in this holes now. Their first round pick, their

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Speaker 2: it's just it's all bad right now for them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: fantasy number wise, could it be fun with Jefferson, Sure,

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Speaker 2: but we're talking win totals. They're over under. The under

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Speaker 2: there justin under. This is just a team that I

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Speaker 1: I love that you're talking about the vikings. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, if you're new to the show, please like

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Speaker 1: go the Minnesota Vikings of the two bets I made

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Speaker 1: I was most excited about. The Vikings have been one

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Speaker 3: Half plus one thirty plus one thirty.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean plus one thirty. I actually bet

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Speaker 3: Plus three plus two hundred some right, Yeah, it was plus.

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Speaker 1: Three something, I think. And this is one I think

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Speaker 1: you're gonna like. Minnesota Vikings worst record in the league,

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Speaker 1: fifteen to one. It's interesting the teams they have above there.

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Speaker 2: That's probably a lot rights. That's why those odds have

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Speaker 2: on Patriots to be the worst team of football.

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Speaker 1: The Titans, the Patriots, the Panthers, Giants, all the Giants,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Sam Donald. We have no confidence in Sam Donald.

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Speaker 1: The guy has been seeing ghosts since he said he

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Speaker 1: No one has fixed him. Kyle Shanahan is the best

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Speaker 1: have the fifth hartist schedule in the NFL according to

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Speaker 1: mediocre offensive line with a quarterback who sees ghost and

433
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Speaker 1: his jittery, that is a recipe for disaster. Thirtieth ranked

434
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 1: defensive line. They let Daniel Hunter go. Their best pass

435
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: rusher is now Andrew van Ginkel, twenty nine years old,

436
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: has generally been mad while playing for the Dolphins, battled injuries,

437
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: is tire career, had one good season last year and

438
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's the replacement for a guy

439
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: who has been getting fifteen, sixteen, seventeen sacks the last

440
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 1: two or three years. And you also mentioned the schedule.

441
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: Look through the first seven weeks, this team could be winless.

442
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 1: They are slight favorites at the Giants. We have loved

443
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Speaker 1: the Giants since they were about one and a half

444
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: two point underdogs at home. Then they gotta go play

445
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 1: the Niners, the Texans, the Packers, the Jets, the Lions,

446
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: the Rams. Fifteen to one, worst record in the NFL.

447
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: Give it to me.

448
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: I love it?

449
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 3: Now? Should I go with a positive side?

450
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Speaker 2: Shash?

451
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 3: I give out some chalky overs?

452
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Speaker 1: All right, fine, all right?

453
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Speaker 3: Number one we'll go in my favorite chalk is.

454
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Speaker 2: One can say one things, hold on, hold on.

455
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Speaker 1: I know you had a whole soliloquy about the Vikings,

456
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: but I felt like my research and creativity on Vikings

457
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: at fifteen to one for worst record deserved a little

458
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: bit more compliments, attention recognition.

459
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Speaker 3: Give me two if it hits in January.

460
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: Brother, you want you an accomplishment like applause before anything

461
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: even happens here.

462
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: What are we talking about?

463
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: Well, you know I like positive reinforcement.

464
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: No, I love it. I mean you know I love it.

465
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 3: I'm I just shit on the Viking.

466
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Speaker 4: You love it?

467
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 3: Five minutes?

468
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Speaker 1: All I want to hear?

469
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Speaker 2: There? You go? What it?

470
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Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell, give me your give me your Chalky's.

471
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Speaker 2: All right, it's no surprise anyone. I love the Eagles.

472
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Speaker 2: Eagles over ten and a half. I just think this

473
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Speaker 2: division's week. The Cowboys, I believe will take a step

474
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: back from what they were last year, and Eagles had

475
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: an epic choke job just to lose the division by

476
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Speaker 2: one game last year. I think even if you take

477
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: away a few wins from what they did last year,

478
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 2: I still gain't see this team being any worse than

479
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: twelve and five, eleven and six, and they're win throwing

480
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: it right now. It's ten and a half, So no

481
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: brainer for me. Just offensively, I think this team's a juggernaut.

482
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: The questions will always be defensively, like their linebacking group,

483
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: middle of the field, that is the question end of

484
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: the day. Like you know, people are still worried about

485
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 2: the Jalen Hurts and the whole blitz thing. Apparently that's

486
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 2: all they've been working on a practice is him playing

487
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: against the bullets. He threw win interceptions all training camp,

488
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: Like clearly he's adjusted to that and he worked on

489
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 2: that during the offseason. The fear here, if you're better

490
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 2: the Eagles is is his secondary gonna be able to

491
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: shut down these other teams where they struggled so much

492
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Speaker 2: down the stretch. With Vic Vango, I think that will

493
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 2: Like everything you read he gives the guys and trusting

494
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 2: the freedom that gives them confidence. I think that's all

495
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: the Eagles were lacking last year. They're lacking good coaching

496
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: and confidence. Like you get to see they had zero

497
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: confidence by the time they got the playoffs and played

498
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Speaker 2: Tampa and and football.

499
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Speaker 3: That's everything.

500
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 2: Like you need to think you're the badest mofo in

501
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: the field or you're you're done, like you just you're

502
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: surrounded by killers. You got to be one yourself. So

503
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 2: for my first one, my first chalky over, give me

504
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Speaker 2: the Eagle over ten and a half.

505
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: Can I say one thing? Yeah, I'm just gonna tease

506
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: this very good chance you and I are doing something

507
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: live in Philly before Thursday night game at the Link

508
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: in November. I'm just going to say that now, just

509
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Speaker 1: planting the seed for free Booze listeners of the show.

510
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Speaker 3: Huh so free Booze Simon.

511
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Speaker 1: I don't know what we're doing yet. I just know

512
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: we're I just know you and I might be there

513
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: together to talk to people's That was.

514
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Speaker 2: Like the greatest part it ever we threw last year.

515
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: So I'm just just checking, just checking. Let's keep let's

516
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: keep going. These chalcovers, these chalkovers, give me the Lions

517
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: ten and a half over, Hello Detroit. They to me

518
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 2: they're the best in this division. We all know. I

519
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 2: mean this. The stat's been said at nauseum. Their first

520
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: outdoor game is Week sixteen against the Bears, Like you're

521
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 2: giving me golf indoors with a better team they had

522
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: last year with Ben Johnston. Like it's all there, Chad,

523
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,719
Speaker 2: Like the only thing that's going to stop this team

524
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: is themselves, Like they have all the talent, they attack

525
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: the secondary, that's where their biggest weakness was. They went

526
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: out and try to improve it. I just love this team,

527
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: like them, I might eventually have them above the Egles

528
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: as the one seed. Like, say they roll the Rams

529
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: Week one and the Eagles, I don't even care if

530
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: the Egles won by twenty against Green Bay it's in Brazil, Like,

531
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: I don't really take much from that game. Where Detroit

532
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: at home with all these expectations, all this pressure, if

533
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: they roll the Rams, can easily have them be my

534
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: number one power of the team in the NFC. Like

535
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 2: it's just it's all there for the Lions. I'm just

536
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: so excited for them and their fan base.

537
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: So it felt just so funny to bet the Lions

538
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: for Super Bowl matchup, Like, even though we've talked about it, yeah,

539
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: it's scared and foundationally, their offensive line and defensive line

540
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: are ridiculous, which is really why we like them when

541
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: we look deeper and see beyond the skill positions and

542
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: the coaching like that, those like in the trenches, they're

543
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: just too good.

544
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: And I've had people ask why I haven't given out

545
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 2: their Super Bowl future. Honestly, guys, I hate to be

546
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: the one that's like say this and do this, but like,

547
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: I haven't gotten over them. Blown. That's seventeen. They're up

548
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: seventeen and a half lead to the forty nine ers, Like,

549
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's something they can just move

550
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: past in the playoffs next year. Like that, to me,

551
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 2: how's that not in the back of golf's heead next

552
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: year in the playoffs? Like that's my hesitation, my fear

553
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: with this Lions team, because I do think they could

554
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 2: easily be the best in the NFCS. It's just, man,

555
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: that's so much baggage to half Like you, they are

556
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: up seventeen points in the NFC Championship game on the road,

557
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: and they somehow almost lost by ten points in that game.

558
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: So that that's my hesitation betting. There's super Bowl future, Chad,

559
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: next one, next one. Here we go, people, we talked

560
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: about it a lot. It's so boring, it's so chalky.

561
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: How do we not take the Chiefs over eleven and

562
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: a half? Like this is a team that had eleven

563
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 2: wins last year in a season from hell, Like everything

564
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: was so negative, everything was so wrong. People don't think

565
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: that way because they had this incredible run the playoffs,

566
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: but like, none of us were buying them, right, no one.

567
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody that was buying them coming out

568
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 2: all the professionals. Everyone was all over the Ravens are

569
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: the Bills. Those were the two best teams headed into

570
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: the playoffs. They had played the best and into the

571
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: playoffs we got Mahomes. Like Mahomes turned it on. This

572
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 2: year is totally different, right, Like this year, to me,

573
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: it's all there, like the fact they had it worthy

574
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 2: we think this is last year, maybe not maybe another year,

575
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: but the last year of Travis Kelce Like this to me,

576
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 2: it feels like the old Tyreek offense with Mahomes, Like

577
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: it's all there. I actually understand a little bit of

578
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: hesitation people about their offensive line. I honestly don't have

579
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: any issue of their offensive line. Then defensively, I mean,

580
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: come on, like me and chat talk all the time

581
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: about this defense. We love this defense. Spags is still there.

582
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: We got no worry. So to me, eleven and a half.

583
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: People don't like it to such a high win total.

584
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: I got no issue with this. I think they're gonna

585
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: be the one seed in the AFC. So this weak

586
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: division they are in, come on, I gotta take this

587
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: over At eleven and a half.

588
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 1: Shad Chris Jones just has grown man strength. He just

589
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: like he's a tone rucker. Love watching him play Who's

590
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:12,959
Speaker 1: Your Next?

591
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: All right? So it's the last one. I never thought

592
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: I would get there with this team. But it's a

593
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 2: team that I don't know. It's like, how do we

594
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: not take this. We've hyped them up, being chat to

595
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: have a super Bowl future on them. It's the Cincinnati Bengals.

596
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: Like I know, they have a high win total, It's

597
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: in a really tough division. I'm betting on a guy

598
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: that has a fifty to fifty chance of having his

599
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: risk now fall apart midway through the season. But I

600
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: love this Cincinnati team. This feels like it's the last

601
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 2: year for it, right, Like, I'm all in on it.

602
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: So it's either them or their Jets here. The reason

603
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: I'm taking since a year is because the Jets juice

604
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 2: now is up to like minus one seventy for their

605
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: win total, Like it's just too high at this point,

606
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: or at least since you still can get a nice

607
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: low number. So if you want to take their over

608
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: win total ten and a half, I love it. If

609
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: you want to adjust it up to eleven and a half,

610
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: and you know you we want that big plus number,

611
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: you can go for it. But I'll just take there

612
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: over at ten and a half. Cincinnati Bengals.

613
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: Look, we've been on the Bengals all off season since

614
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: the second Super Bowl futures came out. I'm a little

615
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: bit anxious about it because it feels like there's a

616
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: little bit more turmoil on that team than I would left.

617
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: But this is their defensive side.

618
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of question marks, like there's it's fair

619
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: to question this team.

620
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: This is this you know, it's interesting. It's so funny.

621
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: We didn't plan this, but you and I assignment are

622
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: in such a mid season mind meld already. The reasons

623
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: that your gross teams ended with the Vikings, and one

624
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: of my favorite bets was Vikings fifteen to one, worst

625
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: record in the league. Your Chalckey teams ended with the Bengals.

626
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: My other favorite creative bet AFC North as a division

627
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: most combined wins plus two twenty five. Here's how I

628
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: think about it. Everybody is down on the Steelers right now,

629
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: which is fine, Like that is a very trendy wise

630
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: guy pick. Take the Steelers under their win total. It'll

631
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: be the first time that Tomlin is finishing below five

632
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: hundred meeting. He's not going to be five hundred or

633
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: better in his entire career. He has done this with

634
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks like Duck Hodges. He did it last year with

635
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: a rotating cast and an offense that really didn't know

636
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: how to move the ball, only because they had good

637
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: plays on defense and kept themselves in games. But if

638
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: you look at every other division, there is at least one,

639
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: if not two, teams that could be four win teams.

640
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: Right and so the NFC South, the Saints could be terrible,

641
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: the Bucks could be terrible. In the AFC West, the

642
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: Raiders could be terrible, the Broncos could be terrible. The

643
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: Chargers could be terrible. In the NFC North, the Vikings

644
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: could be terrible. In the NFC East, the Commanders or

645
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: Giants could be terrible. Every single division has at least

646
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: one or two teams that you think are suspect. Last year,

647
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: the AFC North had the most wins by far. I

648
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: don't think the Steelers greater. If they don't cover their

649
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: season win total, it'll be six wins or seven wins

650
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: or maybe eight wins. It's not going to be three wins.

651
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: So to me, AFC North plus two twenty five most

652
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: comment combined wins for a division.

653
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: And if I'm just gonna steal Chad's bet, I made

654
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: the same bet, but I did the NFC West. So

655
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: that's a division. I'm just really hot. I mean, every

656
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: pros high on it. Like that's the hardest part talking

657
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: about division is either a Seahawks guy or our Cardinals

658
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: guy or.

659
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: Some crazy people.

660
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: They're all three. They like the Rams, Cardinals, and the

661
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,239
Speaker 2: Seahawks where they're just super down the forty nine ers.

662
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's.

663
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: Fundation if you if you want to hear out just

664
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: two more future bets. I like divisional odds and then

665
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: I'm cro on.

666
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: What was your number on NFC West combined wins?

667
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: It probably moved because I did bet this early August

668
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: it was plus four hundred for them to have the

669
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: best best rind, best record, most wins.

670
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: I should say, all right, two more for you, buddy,

671
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: all right.

672
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna give all the Chiefs, even

673
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: though that's my favorite divisional bet. They're minus two to

674
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: seventy now minus two to fifty at most books. So

675
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: I already talked about if you want to take them

676
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: and parlay them with another divisional winner. I've done a

677
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: lot with this team about the mention. Yeer, it's the Eagles.

678
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: Me and Chat I talk every year the star sixth season.

679
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: We have gotten this division right every single year. And

680
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: it's not because we are geniuses like I like to

681
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: think we are. We simply just either picked the Cowboys

682
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: and then we picked the Eagles the following year, then

683
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Now this might be had last year of

684
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: doing this, because I do think Washington or you know

685
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: what Jaden Daniels could be, they could be the second

686
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: best team this year or even the best team next year,

687
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: like if he takes that CJ.

688
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: Strout kind of step.

689
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: No one will be shocked with Washington, but for this year,

690
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: I just have no faith in Washington, don't. I like

691
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: the Giants, but I can't see the Giants getting to

692
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: eleven twelve wins, Like I just even though if I

693
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: want to lie to myself, I can't make up the

694
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: wins for them and get them to those that total.

695
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: And then Cowboys me and chat talk about it's just

696
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: all negative. Like everything about this team has just felt

697
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: so negative come out of camp. You know, Dak has

698
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: been the constant professional, like he's showed up all camp.

699
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: I think he had one little bad moment where he

700
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 2: was just like he couldn't help himself.

701
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 3: But say he goes.

702
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: You know, great quarterbacks have played in other teams, like

703
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: Tom Brady left his team, like he basically let it

704
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: be known that, like, you know, you don't give me

705
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: the kind of money I want, I'm happy to walk.

706
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: They haven't. I mean, we're not even what Chad nine

707
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: days away from the season starting. He didn't get the contract.

708
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: Like preseason's over, they're doing regular season practices at this point.

709
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: So for me, the Cowboys, everything's so negative there that

710
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: you know the fact that I can still get the

711
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: Eagles on minus one twenty five at bet three sixty five.

712
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: I love that value here. So if you, if you again,

713
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: if you want to throw in the Chiefs and all these,

714
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 2: I totally get it. Like I love the Chiefs so much,

715
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna pair them with the Eagles. I believe it's

716
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: plus one if you pair them to parlay them to

717
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: win their division. So yeah, give me the Eagles. I

718
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: just they're the only team I have in this division

719
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: over ten wins, like I have the Cowboys under at

720
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: the nine and a half. So yeah, very confident in

721
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 2: this pick and them coming out of this division winning

722
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: at Chad.

723
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: The one team we didn't talk about, the Colts twin

724
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: the AFC.

725
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: South South.

726
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: I just blanked plus three forty right now, which I love.

727
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: I like it better than the Jags. I like it

728
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: better than the Texans. I know you're we're all gonna

729
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 1: behind the Texans, but to me, that's a good sort

730
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: of I feel like there's value there.

731
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: There is.

732
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: I finally got beat up Chad.

733
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: I got jumped on this Houston thing and they beat

734
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: it into me. Like I like Houston. Now I hate it.

735
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: I wanted to fade Houston so bad. But I'm just

736
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: I can't get over how good Cja is. Everything I've

737
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: read and all the film I watch him in camp,

738
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,479
Speaker 2: he's incredible, Like he's so good. And their offensive line,

739
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: we project them to be so much better than were

740
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 2: last year. Again, they were their most injured offensive line

741
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: in all football last season. They're fully healthy, right I

742
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: headed into camp Defensively, I think that's the biggest thing

743
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: we're not talking about Houston. I do think they're gonna

744
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 2: take a big step defensively, like they just they've added

745
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: the piece of that defense. Now they have two great

746
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 2: pass rushers. Like, yeah, it's it's just all set up

747
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: for Houston. So I'm trying hard try to stick to

748
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: my love for the coach. I am so excited about them.

749
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: I'm really high on Anthony Richardson, but it's a lot

750
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: of unknowns. Like we've been on a guy that played

751
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: what two and a half games in this league.

752
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: Like I get.

753
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: Hesitation by people, and I understand totally why Houston now

754
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: is overwhelming favorite in this division.

755
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's tough.

756
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: Like I just I didn't think I was gonna get

757
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: there on Houston at this point. But like I just

758
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: I can't keep denying what they have, Like they've done

759
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: what I want teams to do. Right, Once you know

760
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: you have the guy, you go and spend them money,

761
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 2: Step Digs, Joe Mixon. Who knows if these guys will

762
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: be absolute game changers, but I do know their improvement

763
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: of what they had on last year.

764
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: Right.

765
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: If Stefan Diggs is your third receiver in Tank Dell's

766
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: number two, that's an incredible luxury to have. Like that's

767
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: I really literally can't wrap my head around how improved

768
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: this team will be. So if you want to go

769
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: out there and bet the nine and a half over,

770
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: I totally get it. If you want to take our divisionalized,

771
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 2: I totally get it. Like Chad just said, we bet

772
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: the Colts here, so I haven't bought out my Colts position,

773
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: But this is definitely what I'm getting weary on.

774
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: It's come to that time, Simon, seven playoff teams, let's

775
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: do it. Four conference championship teams, super Bowl matchup. Here

776
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: we go, You're first, all.

777
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna go from seven to one starting the

778
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: NFC number seven. My team Shocker, Arizona.

779
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: They make it in chat. I love this team.

780
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 2: I think they get to just sneak in, just like

781
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: Green Big dead last year. You know, this is not

782
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: gonna be too shocking. I actually have three teams from

783
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 2: this division making the playoffs, number six forty nine ers,

784
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: so I.

785
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 3: Do think they'll take a step back.

786
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: I think they've had so much drama this offseason that

787
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: instead of being this juggernaut twelve twelve wins, I think

788
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: they take a step back go to ten wins. So

789
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 2: not too shocking there. Number five Green Bay. I want

790
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: to hate on Green Bay and say they're not gonna

791
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: make it. I took their under you know, barely put

792
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 2: anything on it, just because I'm scared of Jordan Love

793
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: and the floor. Like that's a great combo. If if

794
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: Love is who we saw he was at the end

795
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: of that season last year, if that just simply is

796
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: who he is, come on, this has to be a

797
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: playoff team. This this is gonna be a team flight

798
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: for the division lead. Like that's how good he was

799
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: at the end of the season. So my five spot

800
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: went with Green Bay. Four seed. I hate it because

801
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: it's so chalky, but I want with Atlanta. Chad. It's

802
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: how can we not go Atlanta? Like They have the

803
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: best offense in their division. They have the best defense

804
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: in their division. And that's not saying much because their

805
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: division is that bad, but that's how much better they

806
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: are everyone else in their division. So I am skeptical

807
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: of them just because it is Kirk Cousin coming off

808
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: a major injury and they could start the season zero

809
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: and three. I think that obviously wouldn't be that crazy

810
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 2: to think. But overall, when you break down their full season,

811
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: they should win this division. Like they should be favored,

812
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: they should win this division. Number three, give me our

813
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: old faithful the Rams. I love this team. I think

814
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: they take another step this year. With everything going on

815
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: with the forty nine ers, I could see them win

816
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: this division, getting to eleven wins, ten wins, like, I

817
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: think they could steal this division from this forty nine

818
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: ers team that's happened so much turmoil right now. Number

819
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: two we talked a nash about this team. I would

820
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: have put them one seed if they didn't have such

821
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 2: a hard division, but it's the Lions. Like the Lions,

822
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: I do think they are probably the best team and

823
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 2: then but I just couldn't get there just because are

824
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: they really gonna swoop the Bears. Like, it's just it's

825
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: hard for me to wrap my head around them doing

826
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: that with the Bears again, like I think they'd split there.

827
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: I have them splitting with Green Bay. So this is

828
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 2: a team that because they are playing their first place schedule.

829
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: I just don't have them being the one seed this year.

830
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: And people know where I'm going the one seed Eagles

831
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: easiest division. I think their schedule is easy as well

832
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: because they didn't win the division last year.

833
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: So it's all set up for the Eagles there.

834
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: They get they brought in the coaching, they've added players

835
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: to the second day, they've had it players on the

836
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: offense like Sakwon Barkley. This is a team that should

837
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: be the one seed at the end of the season

838
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: for the NFC.

839
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: Why Eagles fly, It's so funny. We're almost completely aligned,

840
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: really close. Seventh, you have a off the radar wild

841
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: card pick. I do as well. I'm going with the Panthers. Wow,

842
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: And I just feel like that division is so bad.

843
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: You really believe they have a chance to be a

844
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: better team, and we are psyched about what we're seeing.

845
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: We're one hundred percent we meet Im drinking the kool

846
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: aid here, we're asking our listeners to do something as

847
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: disgusting as we asked them to do all last year,

848
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: which was continue to bet the Panthers. And by the way,

849
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: by the way, the guy who won the contest last year,

850
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: who visited us at one of our live shows, I'll

851
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: never forget one. I believe he won by not taking

852
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: our advice and putting the Panthers in his final five.

853
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 3: That's the sap partise. He lost because you listen to us.

854
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: He came in second, he lost first place. I wake

855
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: up in cold sweats in the middle of the night

856
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: think of him.

857
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: Dude.

858
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: It's terrible.

859
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's awful. That's even worse.

860
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: I really cost this kid forty dollars.

861
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: I hate it.

862
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is terrible. Panthers seven. I have

863
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: the Rams six. Interesting to me, so okay, Ram six Packers,

864
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: five Falcons four. I had the Niners three, yeah, Lions,

865
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: two Eagles one. So basically you and I are are

866
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: you know, you have the Cardinals, I've the Panthers, and

867
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: we're flipped on the Niners and the Rams.

868
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

869
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: I believe the rent the Niners have the benefit of

870
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: the doubt here, and so that's really why I did it,

871
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: but fascinating, fascinating how close we are on this. Also

872
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: fascinating Cowboys know uh and you have three NFC West to.

873
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: You're like me. You had two new playoff teams from

874
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: last year, right, we dropped out Dallas.

875
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys and who else.

876
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: I'm blanking Bucks Bucks, so those two makes sense to

877
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 2: drop out Box.

878
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: Also, by the way, if you can find it, Bucks

879
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: to finish last in the NFC South, Bucks under seven

880
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: and a half. If you listened to our luck ranking

881
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: show with Nick Giffin, he is all over those doctor Nay,

882
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: brilliant guy luck rankings. You all know how much we

883
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: love the luck rankings. All right, AFC, I'm gonna go first.

884
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: Are you ready?

885
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 3: See?

886
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 1: I have a surprise here. I have a surprise here,

887
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: Jags seventh, I have the Texans sixth. Wow, I have

888
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: the Ravens fifth, I have the Colts fourth. Three AFC

889
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: South teams.

890
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 4: This is the year.

891
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: This is the year it turns for the AFC South.

892
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: They go from the team the division that we don't

893
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: care about, that nobody knows their teams and nobody listens

894
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: to their games or watches their games. They are the

895
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: epitome of corner TV teams. This is the year that changes.

896
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: I was at four, the Jets at four, Jets of

897
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: the Try, the Colts were four. I have the Jets

898
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: at three, I have the Bangles at two, and I

899
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: have the Chiefs at one.

900
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: I love it.

901
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: I think we're pretty old lined here, Chad. We're pretty

902
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: line going into this season here. Brother. I also had

903
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: the Jaguars at seven. It's just had the raw deal

904
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 2: last year if Lawrence.

905
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: Was banged up.

906
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: They're not as bad as people perceive. I think, you know,

907
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: this team getting nine wins ten wins this upcoming year,

908
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: not that shocking seeing them limping as the seventh seed

909
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: number six, even though on down on them, I still

910
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: think the Ravens make the playoffs. Like, I still think

911
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: there's enough there that this team will make the playoffs.

912
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: Number five. I'm shocked that Chad I didn't talk about

913
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: have him in his list. The Bills, man, I still

914
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: think the Bills with Josh Allen still will be one

915
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 2: of the better teams in football, Like with Joe Brady,

916
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: everything that team is. I still got them getting over

917
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 2: their wintows, so I still think they'll have eleven wins.

918
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: So I think they'll be the fifth seed. Fourth seed Houston.

919
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: Chad just stalked about it, like I love this team.

920
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 2: They're just so good and it's just like I can't

921
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,479
Speaker 2: see them not taking a step, Like there's just nothing

922
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 2: in CJ's game that I'm just you know, I'm not again,

923
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: I'm not making them the two seed here because I

924
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: do think like Chad just talk about, I think their

925
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: division is better than people realize. But yeah, the four

926
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 2: seed just makes sense for them. Three seed Cincinnati, Chad

927
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 2: talked about, we're all in on this team, last place schedule,

928
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: they should win this division like they are. This is

929
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: the team, this is their year because next year they're

930
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: gonna be they're gonna be worse. Like it really is

931
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: that Joe Burrow when he's gonna start catching up to them,

932
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: especially when now they have to pay Jamar Chase, Like

933
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 2: it just feels like this is the year for since

934
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: he so give me the three seed, how can I

935
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: not put the Jets of the two seed, Like just

936
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: looking at their schedule, everything about them, Rogers Stay is

937
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: fully healthy. It's like this this is the team one seed,

938
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: just like twenty twenty two, Chad, I got the Chiefs

939
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: as the one seed. So both the Eagles and the

940
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: Chiefs are the one seed in my rankings.

941
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: Well, look, we're like you said, the biggest difference for

942
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: us right now is Colts and Bills. I think the

943
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: Colts take a massive step forward, and I think when

944
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: I look at it, I don't think there's two teams

945
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: from the AFC East coming out of it. So I

946
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: went with the Jets. All right, those are seven and

947
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: seven and seven and seven. Give me your four, your matchup,

948
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: and your winner.

949
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 2: I'll give you my final four, then my Super Bowl winner, Chad.

950
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: So my final four. I went with my two favorite teams.

951
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 2: Eagles versus the Rams. I just I love the Rams,

952
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: especially in the playoffs. I just think Kase Stafford's been there.

953
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: Last year against the Lions, they lost by what a

954
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: point on the road in that game, like it was

955
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: just right there, and they literally got bullied in that game.

956
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: If people don't remember it, Detroit, they just beat the

957
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: crap out. I mean Pooko almost died. Game like. That

958
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 2: was just an incredible battle. So to MEI the Rams

959
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: or their battle tested now with all these young guys,

960
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 2: I like them taking that next step. So Eagles versus

961
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: the Rams. Then they got the Chiefs versus Cincinnati in

962
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 2: the AFC matchup.

963
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 3: Not much to say here.

964
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 2: People know like, we love Joe Burrow, we love my Homes,

965
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: we think they're two of the best teams in the AFCs.

966
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: Just I wanted to get Houston in this spot.

967
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: I just couldn't get there. I can't can't pull myself

968
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 2: to see them upsetting either one of these quarterbacks. I

969
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: just think, you know, Joe Burrow is the ball, last

970
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 2: moments of the ball last I can see them both

971
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 2: being out. Those kind of guys. So my finals Chiefs

972
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: winning over the Eagles once again in the Super Bowl.

973
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: If to win three straight and you can get that

974
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: right now at fifty five to one on bet three

975
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: sixty five, Chiefs beating the Eagles in the Super Bowl,

976
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: I just think it's there. They're both gonna be the

977
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: one seeds if they're both at home. Like if the

978
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: Lions got to come to Philadelphia in mid January, if

979
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: Purdy has to come to Phildelphia in mid January, I

980
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: just think the Eagles should win that game. The only

981
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: hesitation I just talked about is the Rams, Like I

982
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: think of all the guys that wouldn't be phased about

983
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: that kind of environment, is Stafford. But yeah, I have

984
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 2: the Eagles winning it then versus the Chiefs. The Chiefs

985
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 2: winning the Eagles in the super Bowl. It's just Chad knows.

986
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: I love ben on history. I want to be part

987
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: of history. It's just it's one of my favorite things.

988
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: And this is the team to do it. Like, It's

989
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: just the Super Bowl team always gets a little weaker.

990
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: I mean we're seeing it right now with the forty

991
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: nine ers. They call that drama they're having to deal with.

992
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

993
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Chiefs just aren't that team. And they don't

994
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: they don't lose any coordinators. Like, it's just all there.

995
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: So the boring bet, I know, But Chiefs winning the

996
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, That's where I'm going.

997
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: Chad, uh I had Bengals, Chiefs, I had Lions, Eagles.

998
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: I went Chiefs Lions in the Super Bowl. So I

999
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: feel like, unlike you the seventeen point blown lead, this

1000
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: is not a team that has coward when they have

1001
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: faced adversity as a team that has come back, they

1002
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: are not afraid to be intellectually honest about what their

1003
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: challenges are and what they need to improve. And I

1004
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: would bet. Dan Campbell uses that all season long, and

1005
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 1: when it is time to face adversity and face down

1006
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: that fear, the Lions will roar. So they will play

1007
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the Super Bowl and they will lose,

1008
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: but that's fine. They will get to the Super Bowl.

1009
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs lines twenty eight to one. Chiefs Eagles is a

1010
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: matchup is twenty eight to one. All right? That was

1011
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: that was tremendous. The only thing that can top that

1012
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: right now is when we bring back in. Evan Abrams,

1013
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: director of research, has got up some very interesting data.

1014
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: We have concerns about Trent Williams and the Niners. We

1015
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: have talked a lot about the Jets. He has stuff

1016
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers. We also are going to talk a

1017
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: little bit about Dennis Allen, who we think is the

1018
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: biggest joke of a coach in the NFL, A in

1019
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: NFL history. Evan, it's like it's Thursdays during the season

1020
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: all over again. Rock them, sock them.

1021
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: Oh they're talking.

1022
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: They discuss in the podcast.

1023
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,479
Speaker 4: Try to light the fire, the bellas what's up?

1024
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: Uh so excited?

1025
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 4: Pumpkin fall. It's all here, but let's keep going. Trent

1026
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 4: Williams is where We're gonna start because you talked about

1027
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 4: him earlier. I'm gonna keep this super simple, so obviously

1028
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 4: questionable for that Week one game with the Jets, San

1029
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 4: Francisco's lost five consecutive games straight up where either Williams

1030
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 4: hasn't played or played fewer than fifty percent of offensive snaps.

1031
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 4: Good stat, better stat would be here's how San Francisco

1032
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 4: scored in those five games twenty nineteen, seventeen, seventeen, and fourteen.

1033
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 4: To me, that's probably the issue, not so much the

1034
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 4: games lost or whatever that may be, but also this

1035
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 4: one San Francisco was twenty one and two straight up.

1036
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: In the games Williams has played over fifty percent of

1037
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 4: snaps in that span, So pretty blanketed stat and obviously

1038
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 4: how important he is, and the AU part as well,

1039
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 4: because I believe Ayu missed one or two of those

1040
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 4: same games that Yeah, so I think it's a combination

1041
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 4: of everything, but he is utterly important. Now let's get

1042
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 4: to our favorite head coach. We all love Dennis Allen.

1043
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, we suck again.

1044
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 4: But let's let let's let's start here. So he's coached

1045
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 4: five seasons in the NFL with the Raiders, and the Saints.

1046
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 4: His teams are five and oh to the under on

1047
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: their win total. Fantastic. We love hearing that. But in

1048
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 4: his coaching career, he is twenty four and forty six

1049
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 4: straight up. That's thirty four percent worst of all active

1050
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 4: head coaches. He's coached seventy games. He's twenty two games

1051
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: below five hundred. Only four other head coaches have really

1052
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: ever done that in that span. Now, the last note

1053
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 4: on him, he is five and fifteen straight up in

1054
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 4: the first four weeks of the season. That is the

1055
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 4: third worst on the money line in the last twenty years.

1056
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 4: Dus Bradley, John Fox, Dennis aut I think, listen, the

1057
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 4: Panthers are what they are. We're gonna go back and forth.

1058
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 4: The entire company likes Carolina, but I think in week

1059
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 4: one it is a good number, and I like them

1060
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 4: as well. So that's the Dennis Allen situation. Next December twelfth,

1061
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, and he guesses what that date represents.

1062
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 4: Mad he actually asking you. I'm gonna answer it myself.

1063
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 4: It's actually a thousand days prior to the twenty twenty

1064
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: four Monday Night opener. It'll be Aaron Rodgers' last three

1065
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: hundred yard passing game, also his last four touchdown game,

1066
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 4: and it did come against the Bear. Sorry, Chad, but

1067
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 4: since he is just twelve and eleven straight up, ten

1068
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 4: and thirteen against the spread. Now that includes a lucky

1069
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 4: win in the game he went down against Buffalo. But

1070
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 4: more than that, just talking about who Aaron Rodgers is

1071
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 4: as a quarterback. Since that three hundred yard game, he's

1072
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 4: basically the same pass success rate as Desmond Ritter, with

1073
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 4: the same number of interceptions and just forty more attempts.

1074
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 4: Now we talk about EPA per play. In EPA per play.

1075
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 4: Since that three hundred yard game, he is surrounded by

1076
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 4: Ryan Tannehill.

1077
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: And Baker Mayfield.

1078
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Speaker 4: That just might be whoe Aaron Rodgers is. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: we're gonna see, We're gonna see. Now, finally I'll go

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Speaker 4: to Sam Darnald. Now, Simon's used a bunch of these stats.

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Speaker 4: We know Chad loves Minnesota to be terrible this year,

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00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 4: but he is twenty two thirty three and one against

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00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 4: his bread his NFL career. That is the fourth least

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00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 4: profitable of any quarterback since he started. It's Matt Ryan,

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00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 4: Derek Carr, Carson Wentz and then Sam Darnald. But I

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00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 4: think more importantly he is twenty one and thirty five

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Speaker 4: straight up as a starter, sixteen and twenty six as

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00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 4: a dog, five and nine as a favorite, nine and

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00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 4: nineteen on the road, twelve and sixteen at home. I

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00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 4: can't find a single thing he wins games in. Now,

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00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 4: this is the one that really got me. Seven and

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00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: fourteen straight up versus teams below five hundred. So even

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00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 4: in scenarios where he supposed to win, and maybe his

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00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: team behind him isn't the best, still not coming through. Now,

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Speaker 4: I'll give you one more on Donald. Since two thousand

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00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 4: ninety one quarterbacks have had fifteen hundred pass attempts, puts

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Speaker 4: him into a category of players who have actually played.

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Speaker 4: Here's Donald's ranks of those ninety one qbs sixty sixth

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Speaker 4: in completion percentage, seventy second in yards per attempt seventy

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Speaker 4: fifth and sack percentage seventy seventh, in touchdown percentage eightieth

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Speaker 4: in past right success, it just might be Sam Donald.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what else to say there, and I'll

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Speaker 4: add with a little question for you. So right now,

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Speaker 4: the longest season win total understreak, so basically under your

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00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 4: win total in consecutive years. The longest streak goes to

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Speaker 4: the Chargers at five, then the Broncos at four, then

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Speaker 4: Chicago and Washington at three. We already know you kind

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00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 4: of like Denver, But what are your thoughts on those

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00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 4: four teams? You think any of them go over this year?

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Speaker 3: Me and chat cusp, No, check.

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Speaker 2: It kind of like the Chargers, and I've definitely thrown

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00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: cold water on them. I just I can't get behind

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00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: them yet. Man, that's an ugly list. That is an

1114
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: ugly list, Chad.

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Speaker 1: It is really terrible. I don't think any of them do.

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00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean that the Bears expectations are so freaking high,

1117
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: They're off the charts high. You can't responsibly bet on

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00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: them going over their season win total. I don't like

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Speaker 1: any of them. That's for Washington.

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Speaker 4: For me, those would be the two options. I think

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Speaker 4: Washington could surprise people this year. I think a lot

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00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 4: of us like Denver in the spot because I think

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00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 4: get you like the Raiders. I think other people have

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Speaker 4: a little bit different opinions, and I think a lot

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Speaker 4: of people are down on the Chargers, which kind of

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00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 4: just leaves Denver to win just enough.

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Speaker 1: Games to go over Evan Abrams.

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Speaker 4: Thanks fellows.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you back, brother, great to have you back. Listen.

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Speaker 1: your thing, all right. I had mentioned Matt Mitchell pulled

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Speaker 1: a long con on me all last football season with

1140
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Speaker 1: an ad reag prank that took him months to execute.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring in Matt Mitchell to explain the con

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Speaker 1: that he pulled on me, and listen, kudos to him

1143
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Speaker 1: because he worked this and stage straight faced for months

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Speaker 1: while I made a fool of myself.

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Speaker 3: Okay, last, but not least, Uncle Mitch ched.

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Speaker 5: You and I have been working together now for a

1147
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 5: seventh NFL season, and like a lot of our talent,

1148
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 5: you're a real busy guy. You're busy being an executive

1149
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 5: doing meetings and such. You know, a lot of our

1150
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 5: maniacs eximon are busy with you know, handicapping Sam Houston

1151
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Speaker 5: State or MLB stuff plus rates or whatever. And like

1152
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 5: a lot of our talent, you're also made to do

1153
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 5: ad reads by me for our network. Unlike the rest

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00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 5: of our talent, though, I learned that you will read

1155
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 5: absolutely anything I put in front of you, Ron Burgundy

1156
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 5: style with almost no feedback. You'll just knock it out

1157
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 5: and you're onto the next thing, which is a gift,

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Speaker 5: and I do appreciate that. Unfortunately, I did decide to

1159
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 5: take advantage of that, and over basically a full calendar year,

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00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 5: anytime we had a real adread to do, I would

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00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 5: also write and make you read a second entirely phony

1162
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 5: and increasingly ludicrous adread, which you would happily knock out

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00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 5: with almost no feedback whatsoever. And once we'd gotten a

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00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 5: lot of them, we cut them together into a montage

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00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 5: that Simon has now seen for the first time. Ocasi

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00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 5: skips all company meetings, and I just want to say,

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00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 5: I'm really proud of you, and we'll play it right

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Speaker 5: now so everyone can can have the context. Please enjoy

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Speaker 5: Chad reading entirely fabricated sponsorship reads.

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Speaker 2: Would you think I loved it? I mean obviously as

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Speaker 2: someone that's watching it. It's like, how does this guy

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01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: not know that these things are fake? But the biggest

1203
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: one is the Dalton King Kaid. I mean, how does

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Speaker 2: he not know that this guy is starting tight end

1205
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: for Matt Mitchell's favorite team, the Buffalo bill So that

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Speaker 2: one cracked me up.

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Speaker 3: Him selling seafood.

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Speaker 5: Seafood express right freshness, Ahoy for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen A, I'm a professional. If someone is paying us,

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Speaker 1: I give it my all.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: I read it with enthusiasm. I respect Matt Mitchell's time.

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01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: I respect Matt Mitchell as the producer of the show.

1214
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: If he says we got to read, I say, great,

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01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to go in. I'm going to read it

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Speaker 1: with gust The words I don't know what they are.

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01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: I am just reading them with GUSTA. Matt Mitchell, you

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01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: disrespect in my time and my talent. This might be

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Speaker 1: the last year you ever do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it would be worth it, because I will say

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Speaker 5: one Ying Yang Twins, if you're listening, we'd love to

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01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 5: get in business with you. You guys are the best.

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01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,959
Speaker 5: My wife loved that read the most. I'll also note

1224
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 5: that a couple of times when you'd stumble in them,

1225
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 5: you'd go like, oh, this is kind of a weird one.

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Speaker 5: I'd want to totally crack up and lose it. So

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Speaker 5: I would react to that by just shouting at you

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01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 5: because that was I need to react in a big

1229
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 5: way to cover that I was laughing. So I'd be like,

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Speaker 5: shut up, Chad, just finish reading it, and you'd be like, okay,

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01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 5: Jesus all right. So uh yeah, I almost lost it

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Speaker 5: a couple of times, but we, uh we stuck the landing.

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Speaker 5: I'm proud of you, and I look forward to taking

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01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 5: advantage of you in a similar way when you're least

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Speaker 5: suspecting it in the future.

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Speaker 1: Your suspect Matt Mitchell, and I am onto you. I

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Speaker 1: will be questioning everything from now on. Before we wrap

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Speaker 1: up today's final preseason episode one, final bonus for you guys.

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Speaker 1: Last episode, we had on Stucky and Colin Wilson to

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Speaker 1: talk college football last week a there highly rated podcast

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01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: Big Bets on Campus. Stucky and Colin were joined by

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Speaker 1: our college Football inside our bette McMurphy, and he was

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01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: browbeaten by Matt Mitchell to share a very personal story

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01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: he never shared on air before. We all enjoyed it

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01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: so much that we've clipped the story he told on BBOC.

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Speaker 1: We're going to play it for you now, please enjoy.

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Speaker 6: I guess I'm about to hijack the rest of this conversation.

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01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 6: This has nothing to do with football. How's that for

1249
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 6: a tease? June twentieth, nineteen seventy nine, I thought I

1250
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Speaker 6: was going to die.

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Speaker 2: I boarded flight.

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Speaker 6: Two ninety three, and so did a guy named Nikola Caba.

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01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 6: He's from Yugoslavia. I found out later that he had

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Speaker 6: killed more than seventeen people in his life. He committed

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Speaker 6: his first murder when he was fourteen. He threw a

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Speaker 6: wounded German soldier down a well. In November of seventy eight,

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Speaker 6: he was arrested for bombing a Chicago home of a diplomat.

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Speaker 6: Convicted in May of seventy nine in Chicago, but released

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Speaker 6: on bailed in New Jersey, where he was living. A

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Speaker 6: month later. He was on my American Airlines flight from

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Speaker 6: LaGuardia to Chicago. Then I would go from Chicago to

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Speaker 6: Oklahoma City. I had been in Europe with a group

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Speaker 6: of high school seniors from Yukon, Oklahoma, and we were

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Speaker 6: coming back from that trip. He had smuggled a homemade

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Speaker 6: bomb onto the plane plastic explosives. Midway through our flight,

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Speaker 6: he took over control of the plane and sat in

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Speaker 6: the stewardess jump seat outside the cockpit and held on

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Speaker 6: to these little looked like tubes of toothpaste in his hands.

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Speaker 6: Flight attendants never told us we were hijacked. Eventually they

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Speaker 6: said that he had taken control of the plane. We

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Speaker 6: land in Chicago. As soon as we land, you know,

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Speaker 6: usually go up to the gate or whatever. We just

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Speaker 6: sat on the runway. We did not move. We sat

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Speaker 6: there and sat there, and sat there. We sat there

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Speaker 6: for eleven hours. Eleven hours.

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Speaker 2: I was in the.

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Speaker 6: First row of coach, so there was a bulkhead between

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Speaker 6: first class and coach. I was in the first row

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Speaker 6: of coach on the aisle, and I had a little

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Speaker 6: instamatic camera and I would literally lean into the aisle

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Speaker 6: and take a real quick snap of the hijacker. I

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Speaker 6: didn't have the flash on. I didn't want them to

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Speaker 6: see me. But out the window till my right there

1284
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 6: were you know, policemen swat whatever, crawling on their bellies

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Speaker 6: through the field. I'm not exaggerating. There were one hundred

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Speaker 6: police cars, ambulances, fire trucks during this whole time.

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Speaker 2: You know, as a high school journalist, I'm.

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Speaker 6: Actually taking notes on a little you know, the paper

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Speaker 6: napkins they give you. I'm writing down notes of what

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Speaker 6: all is going on. Like in my seventeen year old mind,

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Speaker 6: I'm thinking, well, if the plane blows up, this little

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Speaker 6: piece of paper is going to survive and it will

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Speaker 6: solve everything. Everyone will know what happened. Side note on

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Speaker 6: me trying to take photos of the hijacker.

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Speaker 3: After we got off the.

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Speaker 6: Plane, the authorities asked us if any of us had

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Speaker 6: pictures of the hijacker, and myself and a parent that

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Speaker 6: went with us did so. I gave the police my

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Speaker 6: camera and my film well during the whole process. Afterwards,

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Speaker 6: I talked to somebody with the Associated Press. They said

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Speaker 6: they would buy my film for a thousand dollars. I

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Speaker 6: said great. A couple days later they called me at

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Speaker 6: home and they say that they are no longer have

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Speaker 6: any interest in my film. So basically what I'm saying is, yeah, Ap,

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01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 6: you stiffed me one thousand dollars. If you can figure

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Speaker 6: out what the compounded interest is for forty five years, please.

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Speaker 2: Let me know.

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Speaker 6: Basically, he led us off. After eleven hours. They pulled

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Speaker 6: stairs up to the plane. We walked off down the

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Speaker 6: flight of stairs.

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Speaker 3: It was weird.

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Speaker 6: During the whole time, I never really thought I was

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Speaker 6: going to die or anything that was going to happen,

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Speaker 6: because the flight attendants did a great job keeping everybody

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Speaker 6: call them and stuff. But when they opened the door

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Speaker 6: to get off the plane. Since I was first row

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Speaker 6: a coach, I was when one of the first ones off,

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Speaker 6: and literally when I saw the mass of people and

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Speaker 6: news truck, I mean, just everything out there cliche, but

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Speaker 6: it looked like a movie. I mean, I lost it. Man,

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01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 6: start crying out. That's that's that's probably. That's when I

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01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 6: started crying and realized what could have happened. We go

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Speaker 6: back to the airport. It's funny when we get to

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Speaker 6: the airport, obviously they take us into a special room.

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Speaker 6: They have one side. They say, if you want to

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Speaker 6: talk to the media, go to left. Of course I

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01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 6: got to talk to the media. In nineteen seventy nine,

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Speaker 6: no cell phones, guys, a bank of telephones. Call whoever

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01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 6: you want. I called my parents, Nobody answers the phone.

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01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 6: I called all these different friends, nobody's at home. Finally

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01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 6: I called good friend of mine. His sister answers, Kathy,

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01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 6: is Jim there?

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01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 6: She goes, what are you doing? And I said, we

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01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 6: just got off the plane. She goes, everybody's at the airport.

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Speaker 6: So literally, the whole town of Yukon Surrey Hills where

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Speaker 6: I grew up, everybody's at the airport. I did a

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Speaker 6: ton of interviews. I was looking through the clips. You

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Speaker 6: think I'm a bad interview now, somebody quoted me saying

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Speaker 6: I'm sure I wasn't misquoted. Oh gosh, we've seen a

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Speaker 6: few reporters today. Here's some of the papers. Front page,

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Speaker 6: front page.

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Speaker 3: It' Icicgo Tribune.

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Speaker 6: My mom had a great line. After we got off

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01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 6: the plane in Chicago, we sat there, you know, they

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01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 6: took care of ris. Then we flew to Oklahoma f City.

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01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 6: We arrived fifteen hours later or whatever, and my mom said,

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01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 6: the ironic thing is Brett has never gotten on time

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01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 6: anywhere in his life. And I was late once again.

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01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 6: Everyone thought, because you're hijacked, you get to fly free.

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01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 6: After that, dozens of people when they knew I was hijacked,

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01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 6: do you get a fly free now? No, I don't

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01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 6: get a fly free. Also, after a few months after,

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01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 6: American Airlines sent all of us a little silver pendit.

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Speaker 6: I don't have it with me, and it had flight

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Speaker 6: two ninety three on it in the date on the

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Speaker 6: other side. As soon as we're done here, I guess

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01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 6: I should check with Darren Ravel and see what that's

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01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 6: worth on the open market. Yeah, my wife loves that

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01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 6: I'm hijacked because she loves to fly with me. Because

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Speaker 6: the odds of being on a hijack plane twice in

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01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,719
Speaker 6: your life, I'd say, are as long as Colorado winning

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01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 6: the National Championship. Two things I forgot to mention again.

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01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 6: This is nineteen seventy nine, before nine to eleven. Everyone

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01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 6: got off the plane. They gave him a plane to

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01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 6: fly back from Chicago to New York. When he got

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01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 6: to New York at JFK, they gave him another plane

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Speaker 6: because he wanted to fly to Yugoslavia to get an

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01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 6: associate of his out of prison. So they actually gave

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01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 6: him a plane and flew him back to Yugoslavia. On

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01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 6: the way, he decided he wanted to go to Io,

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01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 6: Ireland instead. He got to Ireland and he did surrender.

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01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 6: He spent twenty years in jail. When he got out

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01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 6: of jail, he did some interviews. I've read a lot

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01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 6: of those. One of them he said that he is

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01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 6: the one that gave Ben Lauden the idea of flying

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01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 6: planes into buildings. He actually said when he was flying

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01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 6: back to Ireland that his idea was to take over

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01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 6: that plane and fly into a specific building, but because

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01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 6: they didn't have the right proper tracking equipment, he decided

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01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 6: not to do that. His attorney convinced him to surrender

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01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 6: when he got to Ireland, so he died I think

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01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 6: fifteen twenty years ago. He was in his seventies when

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01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 6: he died. You know, quite a footnote.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 6: Now one other quick thing. So my first year at

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Speaker 6: ESPN covering the National Title game, and afterwards, I'm at

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01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 6: dinner with Chris Fowler, Heather Cox, and John Saunders. May

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01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 6: he rest in peace, great guy. We're sitting around the

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01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 6: table just talking about different things. I didn't bring this up,

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01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 6: and I know it wasn't Chris Fowler, so it was

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Speaker 6: either Saunders or Heather Cox. And somehow they said, what's

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Speaker 6: the weirdest thing about you that nobody knows? I put

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Speaker 6: twenty dollars down on the table and said, I'm winning.

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Speaker 6: So Chris Fowler said, basically he didn't have anything. Heather

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Speaker 6: Cox at that point lived in Colorado. If people remember

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01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 6: the name John Bena Ramsey and she went through the

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01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 6: whole thing. They lived in the same neighborhood and police

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Speaker 6: actually interviewed her husband. He was one of the last

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Speaker 6: people to see John Bena Ramsey, but obviously he had

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Speaker 6: nothing to do with it. So that was her deal.

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01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 6: John Saunders, who's from Canada, he was like, I was

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01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 6: arrested not once, but twice on suspicion of armed robbery,

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01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 6: Like what some reason? He got picked up for arm

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Speaker 6: rawery in Canada. So so then I followed up with okay, guys,

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01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 6: I was on a hijack plane. I raked in my

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Speaker 6: money and it's obviously a good icebreaker. Somebody needs to

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Speaker 6: do a Netflix series if they haven't already. It seemed

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01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,400
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01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 6: That was just kind of like the thing to do,

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01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,560
Speaker 6: and security obviously was a big issue.

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01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,799
Speaker 2: So that's it my hijack story.

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Speaker 6: If you hate it, blay Matt Mitchell, that's.

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