Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: We should talk about Ottawa.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So I was in New York with my first husband, Charlie,
Speaker 2: and things were not going great. And Mike and Chris,
Speaker 2: why were you guys.
Speaker 4: In New York.
Speaker 3: Because you bought You bought so many persons that year.
Speaker 3: I had to go do a movie.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, okay, I got this wrong. Okay, I know, Okay,
Speaker 2: So no, the story goes this. I was going into
Speaker 2: debt because I had spent thirty thousand dollars on Rachel's
Speaker 2: styled me for a two day weekend, and and I
Speaker 2: am in anticipation that I was going to be back
Speaker 2: and making the big books on a big series on NBC. Anyway,
Speaker 2: it didn't go. Then, in the middle of VH one,
Speaker 2: wondering if they were going to pick it up or not,
Speaker 2: I got offered a Lifetime TV movie and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: dreading going It was going to film in Ottawa, Canada.
Speaker 2: And to be honest, I don't think I even read
Speaker 2: the script. I think it was called Mind Over Murder.
Speaker 2: I started to read, and I'm like, it's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna like and The odd part is my
Speaker 2: husband at the time was super positive and encouraging, and
Speaker 2: he said, you should do this and this is gonna
Speaker 2: be great and told me all the positive things about
Speaker 2: doing it. I was like, you're right, you know, I
Speaker 2: should be grateful and I should. You know, it's a
Speaker 2: starring role in a lifetime movie. I should go and
Speaker 2: do it. So the other stuff I had bought from
Speaker 2: Rachel's besides like cause I was like, oh, it's just
Speaker 2: a two day thing. And then I'm like, oh, She's like,
Speaker 2: but you need this and you need this. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, I do the new me. So I
Speaker 2: packed all that up that I'd never even need while
Speaker 2: I was filming for Ottawa in three weeks.
Speaker 5: At this point when you did that movie, we had
Speaker 5: just been picked up by v H one for ten episodes,
Speaker 5: and you know, the pilot was going to be the first,
Speaker 5: so we had we had to break nine stories. So
Speaker 5: Ruthan calls and she's like, listen, I know, you guys
Speaker 5: need need to meet with Tory. But she's in New
Speaker 5: York and then she's going to Ottawa and we're like
Speaker 5: why and she's like, oh, I mean, you know, she
Speaker 5: just she needs, she needs, she needs to work. But
Speaker 5: we met you in New York and great, we broke.
Speaker 5: We broke those nine episodes in your apartment.
Speaker 4: Wait, I just want to say one story. When we came.
Speaker 4: We came to New York, and I feel like it
Speaker 4: was the first time we saw you and you had
Speaker 4: like blood on your forehead.
Speaker 2: Tell that story, Mike. I'm sorry, I'm about to tell
Speaker 2: that story.
Speaker 4: All right. I don't know, I don't know what's happening
Speaker 4: at least just at the stage were meeting you in
Speaker 4: your apartment to break these stories in New York.
Speaker 2: In New York, so I was staying in my friend
Speaker 2: Jennifer's apartment. She was away for the summer, and I
Speaker 2: was staying in her apartments. My first husband, we had
Speaker 2: just been married one year. He was staying with me,
Speaker 2: and then he was going to Massachusetts right to see
Speaker 2: his family and I was going to go to Autawa
Speaker 2: film my movie. Now, Zach Quinto was also in New
Speaker 2: York because at the time, so I was with him predominantly,
Speaker 2: and he was staying at my apartment with me, which
Speaker 2: was my friend Jennifer's apartment. And yeah, we were staying
Speaker 2: there and I was just like I was telling him
Speaker 2: like I'm not happy, like I feel like I can't
Speaker 2: be myself in front of my first husband. It was
Speaker 2: like a it was like a situation. And then on
Speaker 2: top of that, you guys flew out so we could
Speaker 2: have meetings before I went to Ottawa, and I set
Speaker 2: up this because I was like, I you know, I
Speaker 2: love a good psychic. I was like, I don't know
Speaker 2: what to do. I'm at a crossroads. I'm married. I
Speaker 2: thought I was doing the right thing. I turned thirty
Speaker 2: and I was like, I've always ate the bad boys,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's time to date someone great. And
Speaker 2: he had a great family and he was great and
Speaker 2: he was a writer and super good guy. And but
Speaker 2: you know, there was a side to me that he
Speaker 2: just didn't like, which, you know, not that he didn't
Speaker 2: like it. It was too dirty for him and too
Speaker 2: you know. But that's a big part of.
Speaker 3: Me is he was trying to tone you down.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: It's hard to tone me down. Many have tried to
Speaker 2: break me. Haven't even successful like that Philly, that won't
Speaker 2: be broken. Oh my god, it's like an entre now.
Speaker 2: But I'm not anymore. Wait, so, so I'm not the
Speaker 2: filling that that cougar that won't be broken. That doesn't
Speaker 2: sound sexy anymore, does it anyway? So I was like
Speaker 2: a friend who was actually his friend had been like, oh,
Speaker 2: I went to New Orleans and there was a high
Speaker 2: voodoo priestess and she had helped me through all these
Speaker 2: issues and she had a lot of dating stuff I remember,
Speaker 2: and it like changed her life around dating.
Speaker 3: And this was a friend of Zach or a friend
Speaker 3: of sorry, friend.
Speaker 2: Of Charlie my best yeah, his best friend Kelly. And
Speaker 2: she had told me about it, and so I didn't say, like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm kind of second guessing things with Charlie
Speaker 2: and I don't know what to do because it's only
Speaker 2: a year into the marriage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I knew that part of it.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 2: So she was like, yeah, she had seen her in
Speaker 2: New Orleans during what during Marti Gras and yeah, during
Speaker 2: Marty Gras, and she had done this like stuff on
Speaker 2: her and she was like it works, it works. And
Speaker 2: I was like okay, and she's like, but she resides
Speaker 2: in Brooklyn, so if you're ever there, and I was like,
Speaker 2: that's probably not going to happen. But I was in
Speaker 2: New York. I was going through this crisis. Zach was
Speaker 2: staying with the department. You guys were flying in. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh, I was acting out. I
Speaker 2: was just like, I'm not happy in this marriage. And
Speaker 2: I was like, I got to set this. And Maron
Speaker 2: was actually who played who Zach's character Sasan is based on.
Speaker 2: He was also in New York and that particular day,
Speaker 2: I like found the number I called. I booked this
Speaker 2: appointment with Mama Lola in Brooklyn, and I was going
Speaker 2: to do it. Morn and I were supposed to do
Speaker 2: it together and he ended up canceling on me and
Speaker 2: flaked on me, and I was like, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm in. I never went anywhere by myself at that
Speaker 2: point or now ever why I had so many kids,
Speaker 2: But it's like I remember being like, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it. I'm at a crossroads. I
Speaker 2: need to find someone to give me advice. So I
Speaker 2: I was scared. I didn't at the time. There weren't
Speaker 2: ubers and stuff right, and I was gonna take a
Speaker 2: taxi in New York because I was like a Beverly
Speaker 2: Hills girl and didn't know. So I think I hired
Speaker 2: like a limo company to take me, and I was
Speaker 2: supposed to meet with you guys afterwards. So I had
Speaker 2: set it up and we were going to meet for
Speaker 2: lunch and break some stories. And before that, I fit
Speaker 2: in Mama Lola. So I get taken down to Brooklyn
Speaker 2: and it was like this little house and if you
Speaker 2: don't know the story, you should know the story. It's
Speaker 2: it was genius. It was straight out of like a
Speaker 2: horror film, you guys, like. I walked in and there
Speaker 2: was like candles burning and like what was And they
Speaker 2: took me down to a basement, you guys, abasement like
Speaker 2: it's it's like things you never come back from. But
Speaker 2: I was so like this has this has to have
Speaker 2: an ending, like this is going to help me. And
Speaker 2: long story short, she was like, do you like chicken?
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm fine with chicken. It's pretty good.
Speaker 2: I prefer steak, but cool, and she meant, are you
Speaker 2: fine with chicken? Because she sacrificed a chicken in front
Speaker 2: of me. She put like the chicken's blood and she
Speaker 2: was saying things like her life for your life, her
Speaker 2: life for your life. And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is my life and then and like smearing the
Speaker 2: chicken blood on me. And I was so terrified that
Speaker 2: I was just like trying to stay like present in
Speaker 2: my body. And then remember, oh, remember she said, give
Speaker 2: me your underwear, so I gave her. So I gave
Speaker 2: her my g string and and she said she had
Speaker 2: to go bury it somewhere. I have to go bury it.
Speaker 2: She was going to bury it. And then and then
Speaker 2: I and then this was all said and done. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, and she was going to
Speaker 2: change things, and things weren't right in my love life.
Speaker 2: And I was like I know, I know, and and
Speaker 2: things weren't right financially. I was like, I know, I know.
Speaker 2: And she was like, it's all going to get better.
Speaker 2: It's all going to change. And I had to do.
Speaker 2: She gave me these potions. I had to like I
Speaker 2: couldn't take a bath, right, I had to like stay
Speaker 2: in this. And I had like crusty like blood, like
Speaker 2: a cross of a chicken blood across my forehead and
Speaker 2: she had put all this other stuff on me. Oh
Speaker 2: remember the I.
Speaker 5: Was just gonna say that, that's right.
Speaker 3: She do that, and I my god, I remember it.
Speaker 3: We used to get traumatized.
Speaker 5: When Mike and I showed up at the apartment, it
Speaker 5: was the first time we'd seen you.
Speaker 4: It wasn't I met you lunch on the Upper east
Speaker 4: Side somewhere, I thought.
Speaker 5: Correct and I don't want to say anything, and of
Speaker 5: course Mike is immediately it's like, oh god, Tori.
Speaker 3: It looked terrible.
Speaker 2: So at the time I didn't realize. I was so
Speaker 2: traumatized that she slaughtered a chicken in front of me.
Speaker 2: I'm a huge animal lover. I was just like terrified.
Speaker 2: I'm in a basement, you guys, concrete Like the light
Speaker 2: if there's a light, it was like a light bulb swinging.
Speaker 2: There were candles. There were all these statues, remember with
Speaker 2: big cocks, Like it was like it's supposed to be
Speaker 2: like a god like thing. I don't know. It was
Speaker 2: like I was like, this is like Silence of the Lambs.
Speaker 2: This is like every horror film.
Speaker 6: I seens like a fertility She did stuff with people
Speaker 6: for that too. So there was a lot of statues
Speaker 6: with very large like penises all up and down the
Speaker 6: staircase in this concrete basement, and I just like, I
Speaker 6: don't know. I didn't I didn't think I was gonna die,
Speaker 6: but I thought I was gonna die, but I was.
Speaker 2: Like, no, you watch too many horror films. I was like, wow,
Speaker 2: my overactive creative imagination is finally coming to fruition in
Speaker 2: this one story. And I'm never gonna make it out
Speaker 2: alive to even tell people about this, which is wild
Speaker 2: because this is what I do. Crazy things happened to me,
Speaker 2: and I tell people about it and we you know,
Speaker 2: we make podcasts about it. Here we go. But anyway,
Speaker 2: I did make it out, but she said you have
Speaker 2: to come back in one day, and she had given
Speaker 2: me for a milk bath, and I was like, come back,
Speaker 2: I have to come back here. And I was like
Speaker 2: what do I owe you? And she's like it was
Speaker 2: donation based. I think I gave her two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do and I was like,
Speaker 2: I can't believe I have to come back here. So
Speaker 2: I said, okay, but I remember going to meet you
Speaker 2: guys sitting in the back of you know, I rented
Speaker 2: a limo, and I was just like, this is what
Speaker 2: it feels like to be the last girl standing, like
Speaker 2: main character energy. You're like the final girl in the
Speaker 2: horror film and you're going down. You've left the scene
Speaker 2: and you've made it. And I was literally like sitting
Speaker 2: there staring into nothing. I was like, I was traumatized.
Speaker 2: Which I then ran to the restaurant because I was late,
Speaker 2: and I sat down, and you guys noticed that, like
Speaker 2: something wasn't right. The reason we really noticed something is
Speaker 2: Mike goes ill tarring, you have something on your forehand,
Speaker 2: and I was like what. And meanwhile they had ordered lunch.
Speaker 2: Mike always orders chicken, and I hadn't told them this story.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even speak yet, and he had just ordered chicken,
Speaker 2: and then he goes, what's on your forehead? We realized
Speaker 2: that there was the chicken's dried blood in a cross
Speaker 2: across my forehead and we're sitting in this upscale restaurant,
Speaker 2: so he's like picking it off and anyway, I then
Speaker 2: go I just like the diarrhea. I tell them the
Speaker 2: entire story of what just happened, and they promptly said
Speaker 2: that's going to be an episode, and it was. And
Speaker 2: who starred in and his mama, Lola.
Speaker 4: Whoop Goldberg, who we had just done a show with
Speaker 4: her and she's so fantastic. We loved her. We still
Speaker 4: love her. And she knew your father of course from
Speaker 4: soap dish and I'm sure other things, and she knew
Speaker 4: you and she was just like so game and was
Speaker 4: just really fun and I had no idea she would
Speaker 4: really do.
Speaker 3: I mean, we called him, We're like, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you really do this. She loved it.
Speaker 2: We had the best time. And she doesn't fly, so
Speaker 2: she has like she took her bus like a tour bus,
Speaker 2: you guys, and took it to La to film with
Speaker 2: us for a week and it was still to this
Speaker 2: day one of the best experiences. I was so terrified
Speaker 2: because I was like, how could I ever Like, I
Speaker 2: didn't feel worthy of performing against Whoopi Goldberg and Jumpin'
Speaker 2: Jack Flash was like my old time favorite movie. I know,
Speaker 2: not like one of her like major ones, like, but
Speaker 2: I'm just saying like that was. I was such a
Speaker 2: huge fan of that movie, which I ended up telling
Speaker 2: her at one point she was like, wait, it was underrated.
Speaker 2: I'm like best one.
Speaker 5: Oh God.
Speaker 4: Chris and I ended up directing episodes, and I can't
Speaker 4: remember which one of us was directing that episode. I
Speaker 4: think it was me. Actually we did.
Speaker 7: We did a coin toss and you you won the
Speaker 7: Whoopy episode, So that was a whole nother layer to it,
Speaker 7: but that that was just indicative of the show, like
Speaker 7: we were all such a team collaborating and working together
Speaker 7: that like the directors, if they couldn't get on the
Speaker 7: same page, it would which most of them could, but
Speaker 7: if they could end, if we had the twist arms,
Speaker 7: it was not good.
Speaker 4: So that, to their great credit and to my forever gratefulness,
Speaker 4: they allowed Chris and I to direct, which was, you know,
Speaker 4: our first directing stuff, and it was it was super
Speaker 4: fun for us, I hope for you it was.
Speaker 2: Will you tell this story? What did Whatopi Goldberg say
Speaker 2: about me and what she wanted to do with me?
Speaker 5: Oh, it's so funny. I didn't know that you even
Speaker 5: knew this. I was just going to tell the story
Speaker 5: that she wanted to do a remake of Baby Jane
Speaker 5: with Torri Spelling.
Speaker 3: Isn't that what she said?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I took that as a compliment. What do you know?
Speaker 2: To this day, the three of us still talk about that,
Speaker 2: like we should get that. Whatever happened to Baby Jane
Speaker 2: remake with me and Whoopy Goldberg? Like hello, wait, that's
Speaker 2: like a traveling show. That's our list of something we'll
Speaker 2: never do perfect anyway. But anyway, so that storyline was created,
Speaker 2: which later became an episode, like we said, which Whoopy
Speaker 2: Goldberg was in. But the next day I had to
Speaker 2: go to Ottawa and do this Lifetime movie. And I
Speaker 2: had convinced Chris and Mike or maybe Ruth Anne had
Speaker 2: that since I was scared of flying, right, or it
Speaker 2: was a passport issue, why was I not.
Speaker 4: Talking from New York to Ottawa Because you said you
Speaker 4: were scared of flying on a small plane and there
Speaker 4: were only small planes, so that's what it was.
Speaker 3: You didn't want to prop.
Speaker 4: We were on this fucking limo forever, and I'll i'll need.
Speaker 2: To go through the border, remember because my passport something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to the border and you didn't have
Speaker 4: your fucking passport in my life. We had to like
Speaker 4: go around and then somehow I like I never knew
Speaker 4: there's like a VIP passport thing where they were able
Speaker 4: to like fax your passport to some other. But it
Speaker 4: was like it was a huge delay and.
Speaker 2: I was ten hours.
Speaker 3: We were ten hours in this limo.
Speaker 5: And my favorite thing is Tori had been on Mike
Speaker 5: for months about wearing birkenstocks because they were they were
Speaker 5: not particularly fashionable at that moment, and Mike.
Speaker 2: They are now, but at the.
Speaker 5: Time she'd be like, oh God, I don't want to
Speaker 5: have to look at those. And so we're we're at
Speaker 5: like our seven and all of a sudden, the power
Speaker 5: window goes down and we're on the freeway going like
Speaker 5: sixty miles an hour or whatever, and I see her
Speaker 5: pick up his Burkens Tuck. She's dangling it out the
Speaker 5: window as if he's just gonna let.
Speaker 3: It go flying. And then he's like, no, toy, give
Speaker 3: me my show. And it was like brother and sister.
Speaker 3: It was very cool.
Speaker 4: But then she when we were in Ottawa, she ended
Speaker 4: up throwing it off the roof of the building.
Speaker 2: Did you ever find it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I found it. Otherwise otherwise you would have gotten
Speaker 4: a bill, of.
Speaker 2: Course I would. So yeah, ten hour drive and I
Speaker 2: was like, don't worry, We're going to break so many
Speaker 2: stories and episodes. I don't think we got much done
Speaker 2: during that ride, right.
Speaker 5: Not during that ride, but we got we have like
Speaker 5: the whole season broken in just a couple of days.
Speaker 5: Like it's the little white board sheets that we had
Speaker 5: up on the wall and your in.
Speaker 2: My hotel, my hotel, Yeah, in Ottawa, the magic Markers.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, we certainly broke the Mama Lola story, right.
Speaker 2: And we also broke Canada, which was based.
Speaker 3: On on that stay.
Speaker 2: That stay in Canada when.
Speaker 5: You walked into the shower and you come out, You're like, oh,
Speaker 5: there's soap and shampoo dispensers.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: I was so naive then. Now that would be considered
Speaker 2: a good hotel. If they have, I'd be like winning.
Speaker 2: But that is also the trip where I met Dean,
Speaker 2: because Dean was my leading man, and everyone knows how
Speaker 2: the story went, but Mike and Chris were with me,
Speaker 2: and there was going to be a cast dinner and
Speaker 2: it was like all the producers and me and Dean
Speaker 2: because he was the leading man and we had just
Speaker 2: met that day, and we ended up going out for
Speaker 2: a cast dinner, and I convinced Mike and Chris to go,
Speaker 2: and they went, and then afterwards we decided to go
Speaker 2: out for drinks. Mike went home, Chris stayed with me.
Speaker 2: I still ish Ish and I still tell Chris to
Speaker 2: this day that I blame him for everything. I don't
Speaker 2: blame you. I should thank you, because I had Dean
Speaker 2: and I have five beautiful children together.
Speaker 5: But we do. I'm trying to remember did we all
Speaker 5: meet in the lobby. I have this memory of being
Speaker 5: in the lobby before the dinner. Is that was that
Speaker 5: the moment you met Dean the first time? Or had
Speaker 5: you met him earlier in the day.
Speaker 2: So I met him earlier in the day. I was
Speaker 2: sitting in the director's office and I remember I had
Speaker 2: gone into wardrobe first, and I was like, I was
Speaker 2: so not invested in this like TV movie, and I
Speaker 2: was just going because I was like I should be
Speaker 2: doing it right now to pay the bills, like oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, and yeah. I didn't even ask who the
Speaker 2: leading man was. And when I got to wardrobe, they
Speaker 2: had like xerox pictures of all the casts on the
Speaker 2: wall and they said, oh, have you met your leading
Speaker 2: man Dean McDermott, And I said no, when they said, oh,
Speaker 2: it's him, and they pointed to a picture of a
Speaker 2: guy and it was a totally like clean cut, like
Speaker 2: look like a cop type role. He always played detective,
Speaker 2: so he had a headshot like that and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I go hmm. And I remember like thinking, oh, that's
Speaker 2: a bummer, but not like hello, your mayor. But I
Speaker 2: was like not happy, and I was just looking for
Speaker 2: some like approval, like some excitement. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: my leading man's not that cute. Whatever, fine, And then
Speaker 2: I went and met with the director and I was
Speaker 2: talking with the director and sitting across from him at
Speaker 2: his desk, and there was a knock at the door
Speaker 2: and he said, oh, Dean's here, you should meet and
Speaker 2: he opened the door and I remember I turned around
Speaker 2: looking over my left shoulder and looking up and we
Speaker 2: locked eyes and he was totally different than what I expected.
Speaker 2: He was totally like his hair was longer, he was scruffy,
Speaker 2: he was dressed cool and his blue eyes and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh god, I'm in trouble. Like he was hot,
Speaker 2: and yeah, that's the first time we met. And then
Speaker 2: the lobby, like he really sealed the deal that night
Speaker 2: because he I remember I came down to the lobby
Speaker 2: and he was like he looked down and he was
Speaker 2: like at my purse and he was like Balenciaga. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh, you know purses. I was
Speaker 2: like yes, And then I was like, do you know
Speaker 2: Rachel Zoe So anyway, I had just got this new
Speaker 2: purse that I can't afford. No, I didn't tell him that,
Speaker 2: but the timeline adds up. But I was so impressed
Speaker 2: that he knew purses. And then you guys met him,
Speaker 2: and then we went to dinner, and then we went
Speaker 2: to a bar, and then I kissed him, right Chris.
Speaker 3: Remember see, I'm not remembering the bar. I'm remembering the dinner.
Speaker 5: I'm remembering the dinner because I thought, oh, these two
Speaker 5: were cute together. They're gonna have They're gonna have good
Speaker 5: chemistry in the movie.
Speaker 1: Can I just interject my recollection? Although I was not
Speaker 1: there was you guys were photographed you and Dean and
Speaker 1: you were like sitting on his lap or you were
Speaker 1: straddling him in the bar.
Speaker 2: That wasn't that night. That That that came later into
Speaker 2: the shoot once he and I were full on together
Speaker 2: and we were like, shoot, we're both gonna have to
Speaker 2: go home to our spouses. What are we going to do?
Speaker 2: And somebody did snap a picture which was leaked to
Speaker 2: the press, and it was like it's going to come out.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was a whole other story. Take us
Speaker 2: back to the night. I'm Chris, you know I have
Speaker 2: a photographic memory. I'm looking at you right now because
Speaker 2: we're in a leather booth at a bar, and I
Speaker 2: literally started to climb over you to get to Dean
Speaker 2: and you were laughing, but you were like no, no,
Speaker 2: But I did it anyway because the more you said no,
Speaker 2: the more I wanted to do it.
Speaker 3: Maybe I blocked it out because you know.
Speaker 5: My memory is the next day Charlie came and I
Speaker 5: saw him out of the corner of my eye, and
Speaker 5: I toy, I hid, I hid behind there was like
Speaker 5: a column in the lobby, and I hid and went
Speaker 5: the other way.
Speaker 3: So there's some part of me that was afraid to
Speaker 3: see him.
Speaker 2: Wait, so it did happen that way. And then you
Speaker 2: said you were going home, and I was like, don't
Speaker 2: leave me. If you leave me, something's gonna happen, like
Speaker 2: daring you like to stay and stop me. And you
Speaker 2: went home and so forever I was like, it's your fault.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 2: We had sex like first night, like oh my god,
Speaker 2: a kimbley, I did this? What am I going to do?
Speaker 2: And the next day my husband was Charlie was flying
Speaker 2: in to see me and stay for a week and
Speaker 2: that's what Chris is referring to that he was in
Speaker 2: the lobby when Charlie checked in the next day, and
Speaker 2: it was after I had told him do you and
Speaker 2: I slept together last night? And da da and then
Speaker 2: and so you hid.
Speaker 5: I hid, And I swear to God, I'm blocking. I'm
Speaker 5: blocking you telling me this. I just remember when we
Speaker 5: all came back. You were very hard to reach, and
Speaker 5: Mike was very suspicious and he's like, I don't know,
Speaker 5: I think she's up to something. And I was like, oh, Mike,
Speaker 5: She's like it's it's bad cell signal.
Speaker 3: They're in Canada. Like it's like they had.
Speaker 2: Three weeks of the shoot, like we fell madly in
Speaker 2: love and we were together in our own little world,
Speaker 2: pretending that reality didn't back home in La with our
Speaker 2: partners and with families, and it's just telling friends and yeah,
Speaker 2: you guys were like, something's up. I remember Zach and
Speaker 2: Morn both being like, what's going on. I'd be like nothing.
Speaker 2: I remember telling no. I told Maron and Zach over
Speaker 2: text that and it was like yeah and that. I
Speaker 2: was like, I want to move to Canada, and they were.
Speaker 5: Like, what you told me at your welcome back party
Speaker 5: in Beverly Hills. You told me in the bathroom the.
Speaker 2: Dean and I were together, and yeah, oh is that
Speaker 2: the night with James Carponella. And he was there and
Speaker 2: Zach was there.
Speaker 5: And James had no idea Zach, Zach knew, but you
Speaker 5: had told me. So I came out of the bathroom
Speaker 5: with this usually the information, and.
Speaker 3: James is going, what what? What just happened?
Speaker 4: Nothing?
Speaker 5: He' said no, come on what I'm like, it was
Speaker 5: so uncomfortable. And then Charlie was there, and then Charlie,
Speaker 5: you wanted to go to a gay bar with Zach
Speaker 5: and whoever.
Speaker 2: Wants. I was scared. I don't know what to do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: He's like, I haven't seen you in three weeks. Like this.
Speaker 2: You know your friends are welcome party, that's great, but
Speaker 2: like now I want to go home with my wife.
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, you know, we all want
Speaker 2: to go to this gay bar. It'll be fun and
Speaker 2: I'll be coming, and he's like, this is and then
Speaker 2: he turned to me and he goes, this is over
Speaker 2: if you go.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I remember I heard that.
Speaker 5: I heard him say if you go to that gay bar,
Speaker 5: this marriage is over.
Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, and I turned.
Speaker 2: And I turned around and promptly screamed, who's coming with me?
Speaker 2: And I hadn't at the time what was pissed? And
Speaker 2: he went home and then we didn't go to Foo Bar.
Speaker 2: We went back to wait where we go oh and
Speaker 2: Bill and Scout were there right, and we went back
Speaker 2: to Susannah Marcel's house. Marcel, oh my gosh, and came
Speaker 2: over and I told everyone everything, all my friends, and
Speaker 2: I was like and they were just all like jaws,
Speaker 2: like what And I was like, yeah, I'm gonna leave Charlie,
Speaker 2: and Teen's gonna leave Mary Joe and we're gonna be together.
Speaker 2: And they were like what just happened the last three weeks?
Speaker 2: And then to top it all off, I was like,
Speaker 2: Mama Lola called this. I was like that poor chicken
Speaker 2: had to die for this, But it was a meaning
Speaker 2: like it was because I was supposed to like find
Speaker 2: new and true love my soulmates.
Speaker 5: I just remember thinking, and I didn't know you that
Speaker 5: well at the time, but I knew you enough to
Speaker 5: know that you were not good with confrontation with the
Speaker 5: ripping band aids off, and I just remember thinking, how
Speaker 5: how was she going to have that conversation like I was,
Speaker 5: I was worried for you.
Speaker 2: Like didn't I was so scared. I had to do
Speaker 2: it with my therapist in the office and him.
Speaker 5: I'm remembering now those were your words you in that bathroom.
Speaker 5: You were like, this is my soulmate.
Speaker 8: Well, I don't know if we want to talk about this,
Speaker 8: but it was like it created a lot of drama
Speaker 8: at VH one because you had sort of just had
Speaker 8: on the front page of People Magazine, on the cover
Speaker 8: People Magazine, your big marriage to Charlie at the mansion.
Speaker 2: A million dollar wedding on the Yeah, you were getting
Speaker 2: a magazine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like this kind of americ You're kind of getting
Speaker 4: in the American sweetheart territory, improbably after all this time,
Speaker 4: and then this was just like blew it up. And
Speaker 4: so was like, oh my god, because the marketing obviously
Speaker 4: was so tied to you and your persona, and this
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, now she's getting pressed as like the
Speaker 4: home wrecker and the whole are and the slut the Jezebel.
Speaker 3: Which is so unfair because you're not even that slutty.
Speaker 2: That flutty I know, Donna Martin the Virgin always wanted
Speaker 2: to be a slut, never been one.
Speaker 3: Donna Martin gratuated.
Speaker 2: And then procreated and appropriated and appropriated and procreate and procreated.
Speaker 3: Okay, tell us the acts funny line.
Speaker 5: Yes, when when we were shooting, you were so you know,
Speaker 5: the relationship with Dean was so new and fresh, and
Speaker 5: you guys were so in love and inseparable all the time.
Speaker 3: And then they're like starting.
Speaker 2: He was there every day in my trails, every day,
Speaker 2: all the time, having sex like in between every.
Speaker 5: We all new and and and there started being these
Speaker 5: rumors that you were gonna you know, you can't, you
Speaker 5: can wait to have babies. And I was like terrified
Speaker 5: that you were going to become pregnant during the show,
Speaker 5: and Zach quin to torry, you can't the baby. You
Speaker 5: can barely sustain life. For what.
Speaker 2: I mean, I could barely take care of myself. How
Speaker 2: could you stay in life?
Speaker 4: Yet? Definitely, remember after one of those late nights in
Speaker 4: the editing room and you wanted us to get some snacks,
Speaker 4: and we got you a yogurt, but there was no spoon,
Speaker 4: and you were like too lazy to go up and
Speaker 4: get a spoon. You're in the yogurt with your hands,
Speaker 4: with your.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, it was a catchup packet. She was
Speaker 5: dipping the Ketchup packet into the yogurt and then sucking
Speaker 5: the yogurt off the Ketchup packet.
Speaker 2: I mean, sounds good to me.
Speaker 3: He's resourceful, resourceful, and you know what.
Speaker 5: The other thing that's kind of nice is you're not,
Speaker 5: you know what, up tight. You don't have to be fancy,
Speaker 5: you'll you'll. She's a girl who eat yogurt off ketch
Speaker 5: Up pockets.
Speaker 1: Mhm