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Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: We should talk about Ottawa.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: So I was in New York with my first husband, Charlie,

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Speaker 2: and things were not going great. And Mike and Chris,

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Speaker 2: why were you guys.

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Speaker 4: In New York.

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Speaker 3: Because you bought You bought so many persons that year.

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Speaker 3: I had to go do a movie.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, okay, I got this wrong. Okay, I know, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So no, the story goes this. I was going into

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Speaker 2: debt because I had spent thirty thousand dollars on Rachel's

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Speaker 2: styled me for a two day weekend, and and I

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Speaker 2: am in anticipation that I was going to be back

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Speaker 2: and making the big books on a big series on NBC. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: it didn't go. Then, in the middle of VH one,

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Speaker 2: wondering if they were going to pick it up or not,

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Speaker 2: I got offered a Lifetime TV movie and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: dreading going It was going to film in Ottawa, Canada.

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Speaker 2: And to be honest, I don't think I even read

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Speaker 2: the script. I think it was called Mind Over Murder.

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Speaker 2: I started to read, and I'm like, it's fine, it's fine.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna like and The odd part is my

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Speaker 2: husband at the time was super positive and encouraging, and

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Speaker 2: he said, you should do this and this is gonna

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Speaker 2: be great and told me all the positive things about

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Speaker 2: doing it. I was like, you're right, you know, I

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Speaker 2: should be grateful and I should. You know, it's a

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Speaker 2: starring role in a lifetime movie. I should go and

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Speaker 2: do it. So the other stuff I had bought from

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Speaker 2: Rachel's besides like cause I was like, oh, it's just

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Speaker 2: a two day thing. And then I'm like, oh, She's like,

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Speaker 2: but you need this and you need this. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, I do the new me. So I

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Speaker 2: packed all that up that I'd never even need while

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Speaker 2: I was filming for Ottawa in three weeks.

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Speaker 5: At this point when you did that movie, we had

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Speaker 5: just been picked up by v H one for ten episodes,

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Speaker 5: and you know, the pilot was going to be the first,

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Speaker 5: so we had we had to break nine stories. So

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Speaker 5: Ruthan calls and she's like, listen, I know, you guys

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Speaker 5: need need to meet with Tory. But she's in New

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Speaker 5: York and then she's going to Ottawa and we're like

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Speaker 5: why and she's like, oh, I mean, you know, she

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Speaker 5: just she needs, she needs, she needs to work. But

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Speaker 5: we met you in New York and great, we broke.

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Speaker 5: We broke those nine episodes in your apartment.

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Speaker 4: Wait, I just want to say one story. When we came.

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Speaker 4: We came to New York, and I feel like it

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Speaker 4: was the first time we saw you and you had

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Speaker 4: like blood on your forehead.

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Speaker 2: Tell that story, Mike. I'm sorry, I'm about to tell

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Speaker 2: that story.

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Speaker 4: All right. I don't know, I don't know what's happening

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Speaker 4: at least just at the stage were meeting you in

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Speaker 4: your apartment to break these stories in New York.

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Speaker 2: In New York, so I was staying in my friend

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Speaker 2: Jennifer's apartment. She was away for the summer, and I

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Speaker 2: just been married one year. He was staying with me,

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Speaker 2: and then he was going to Massachusetts right to see

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Speaker 2: his family and I was going to go to Autawa

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Speaker 2: film my movie. Now, Zach Quinto was also in New

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Speaker 2: York because at the time, so I was with him predominantly,

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Speaker 2: was my friend Jennifer's apartment. And yeah, we were staying

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Speaker 2: there and I was just like I was telling him

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Speaker 2: be myself in front of my first husband. It was

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Speaker 2: like a it was like a situation. And then on

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Speaker 2: top of that, you guys flew out so we could

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Speaker 2: have meetings before I went to Ottawa, and I set

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Speaker 2: up this because I was like, I you know, I

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Speaker 2: love a good psychic. I was like, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what to do. I'm at a crossroads. I'm married. I

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Speaker 2: and I was like, I've always ate the bad boys,

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Speaker 2: he had a great family and he was great and

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Speaker 2: he was a writer and super good guy. And but

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Speaker 2: you know, there was a side to me that he

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Speaker 3: Me is he was trying to tone you down.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to tone me down. Many have tried to

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Speaker 2: be broken. Oh my god, it's like an entre now.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not anymore. Wait, so, so I'm not the

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Speaker 2: filling that that cougar that won't be broken. That doesn't

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Speaker 2: a friend who was actually his friend had been like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I went to New Orleans and there was a high

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Speaker 2: voodoo priestess and she had helped me through all these

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Speaker 2: issues and she had a lot of dating stuff I remember,

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Speaker 2: and it like changed her life around dating.

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Speaker 3: And this was a friend of Zach or a friend

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Speaker 3: of sorry, friend.

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Speaker 2: Of Charlie my best yeah, his best friend Kelly. And

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I knew that part of it.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting.

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Speaker 2: So she was like, yeah, she had seen her in

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Speaker 2: New Orleans during what during Marti Gras and yeah, during

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Speaker 2: Marty Gras, and she had done this like stuff on

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Speaker 2: her and she was like it works, it works. And

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Speaker 2: I was like okay, and she's like, but she resides

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Speaker 2: in Brooklyn, so if you're ever there, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: that's probably not going to happen. But I was in

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Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh, I was acting out. I

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Speaker 2: I was like, I got to set this. And Maron

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Speaker 2: was actually who played who Zach's character Sasan is based on.

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Speaker 2: He was also in New York and that particular day,

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Speaker 2: I like found the number I called. I booked this

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Speaker 2: But it's like I remember being like, you know what

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Speaker 2: set it up and we were going to meet for

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Speaker 2: lunch and break some stories. And before that, I fit

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Speaker 2: and it was like this little house and if you

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Speaker 2: don't know the story, you should know the story. It's

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Speaker 2: it was genius. It was straight out of like a

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Speaker 2: it's it's like things you never come back from. But

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Speaker 2: I was so like this has this has to have

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Speaker 2: long story short, she was like, do you like chicken?

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Speaker 2: fine with chicken? Because she sacrificed a chicken in front

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Speaker 2: And I was like I know, I know, and and

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Speaker 2: And she was like, it's all going to get better.

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Speaker 2: She gave me these potions. I had to like I

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Speaker 5: Was just gonna say that, that's right.

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Speaker 3: She do that, and I my god, I remember it.

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Speaker 3: We used to get traumatized.

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Speaker 5: When Mike and I showed up at the apartment, it

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Speaker 4: It wasn't I met you lunch on the Upper east

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Speaker 5: Correct and I don't want to say anything, and of

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Speaker 5: course Mike is immediately it's like, oh god, Tori.

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Speaker 3: It looked terrible.

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Speaker 2: So at the time I didn't realize. I was so

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Speaker 2: traumatized that she slaughtered a chicken in front of me.

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Speaker 2: I'm a huge animal lover. I was just like terrified.

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Speaker 2: I'm in a basement, you guys, concrete Like the light

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Speaker 2: if there's a light, it was like a light bulb swinging.

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Speaker 2: There were candles. There were all these statues, remember with

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Speaker 2: big cocks, Like it was like it's supposed to be

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Speaker 2: like a god like thing. I don't know. It was

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Speaker 2: like I was like, this is like Silence of the Lambs.

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Speaker 2: This is like every horror film.

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Speaker 6: I seens like a fertility She did stuff with people

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Speaker 6: for that too. So there was a lot of statues

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Speaker 6: with very large like penises all up and down the

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Speaker 6: don't know. I didn't I didn't think I was gonna die,

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Speaker 6: but I thought I was gonna die, but I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, no, you watch too many horror films. I was like, wow,

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Speaker 2: my overactive creative imagination is finally coming to fruition in

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Speaker 2: this one story. And I'm never gonna make it out

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Speaker 2: because this is what I do. Crazy things happened to me,

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Speaker 2: and I tell people about it and we you know,

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Speaker 2: we make podcasts about it. Here we go. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: I did make it out, but she said you have

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Speaker 2: me for a milk bath, and I was like, come back,

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Speaker 2: what do I owe you? And she's like it was

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Speaker 2: donation based. I think I gave her two hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do and I was like,

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Speaker 5: But we do. I'm trying to remember did we all

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Speaker 3: Remember see, I'm not remembering the bar. I'm remembering the dinner.

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Speaker 5: I'm remembering the dinner because I thought, oh, these two

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Speaker 1: Can I just interject my recollection? Although I was not

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Speaker 2: That wasn't that night. That That that came later into

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that was a whole other story. Take us

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Speaker 2: But I did it anyway because the more you said no,

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Speaker 3: Maybe I blocked it out because you know.

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00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:48,719
Speaker 5: My memory is the next day Charlie came and I

437
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 5: saw him out of the corner of my eye, and

438
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 5: I toy, I hid, I hid behind there was like

439
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 5: a column in the lobby, and I hid and went

440
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 5: the other way.

441
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 3: So there's some part of me that was afraid to

442
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 3: see him.

443
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 2: Wait, so it did happen that way. And then you

444
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: said you were going home, and I was like, don't

445
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 2: leave me. If you leave me, something's gonna happen, like

446
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: daring you like to stay and stop me. And you

447
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: went home and so forever I was like, it's your fault.

448
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 3: Sorry.

449
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 2: We had sex like first night, like oh my god,

450
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: a kimbley, I did this? What am I going to do?

451
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: And the next day my husband was Charlie was flying

452
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: in to see me and stay for a week and

453
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: that's what Chris is referring to that he was in

454
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: the lobby when Charlie checked in the next day, and

455
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: it was after I had told him do you and

456
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 2: I slept together last night? And da da and then

457
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 2: and so you hid.

458
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 5: I hid, And I swear to God, I'm blocking. I'm

459
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 5: blocking you telling me this. I just remember when we

460
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 5: all came back. You were very hard to reach, and

461
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 5: Mike was very suspicious and he's like, I don't know,

462
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 5: I think she's up to something. And I was like, oh, Mike,

463
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 5: She's like it's it's bad cell signal.

464
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 3: They're in Canada. Like it's like they had.

465
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: Three weeks of the shoot, like we fell madly in

466
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: love and we were together in our own little world,

467
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 2: pretending that reality didn't back home in La with our

468
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: partners and with families, and it's just telling friends and yeah,

469
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: you guys were like, something's up. I remember Zach and

470
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: Morn both being like, what's going on. I'd be like nothing.

471
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: I remember telling no. I told Maron and Zach over

472
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: text that and it was like yeah and that. I

473
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: was like, I want to move to Canada, and they were.

474
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 5: Like, what you told me at your welcome back party

475
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 5: in Beverly Hills. You told me in the bathroom the.

476
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 2: Dean and I were together, and yeah, oh is that

477
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 2: the night with James Carponella. And he was there and

478
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: Zach was there.

479
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 5: And James had no idea Zach, Zach knew, but you

480
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 5: had told me. So I came out of the bathroom

481
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 5: with this usually the information, and.

482
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: James is going, what what? What just happened?

483
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 4: Nothing?

484
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 5: He' said no, come on what I'm like, it was

485
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 5: so uncomfortable. And then Charlie was there, and then Charlie,

486
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 5: you wanted to go to a gay bar with Zach

487
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 5: and whoever.

488
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 2: Wants. I was scared. I don't know what to do. Yeah,

489
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: He's like, I haven't seen you in three weeks. Like this.

490
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,959
Speaker 2: You know your friends are welcome party, that's great, but

491
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 2: like now I want to go home with my wife.

492
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, you know, we all want

493
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: to go to this gay bar. It'll be fun and

494
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: I'll be coming, and he's like, this is and then

495
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: he turned to me and he goes, this is over

496
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: if you go.

497
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I remember I heard that.

498
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 5: I heard him say if you go to that gay bar,

499
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 5: this marriage is over.

500
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, and I turned.

501
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: And I turned around and promptly screamed, who's coming with me?

502
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 2: And I hadn't at the time what was pissed? And

503
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: he went home and then we didn't go to Foo Bar.

504
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: We went back to wait where we go oh and

505
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: Bill and Scout were there right, and we went back

506
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: to Susannah Marcel's house. Marcel, oh my gosh, and came

507
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: over and I told everyone everything, all my friends, and

508
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: I was like and they were just all like jaws,

509
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 2: like what And I was like, yeah, I'm gonna leave Charlie,

510
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: and Teen's gonna leave Mary Joe and we're gonna be together.

511
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: And they were like what just happened the last three weeks?

512
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: And then to top it all off, I was like,

513
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: Mama Lola called this. I was like that poor chicken

514
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: had to die for this, But it was a meaning

515
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: like it was because I was supposed to like find

516
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 2: new and true love my soulmates.

517
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 5: I just remember thinking, and I didn't know you that

518
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 5: well at the time, but I knew you enough to

519
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 5: know that you were not good with confrontation with the

520
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 5: ripping band aids off, and I just remember thinking, how

521
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 5: how was she going to have that conversation like I was,

522
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 5: I was worried for you.

523
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: Like didn't I was so scared. I had to do

524
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: it with my therapist in the office and him.

525
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 5: I'm remembering now those were your words you in that bathroom.

526
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 5: You were like, this is my soulmate.

527
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 8: Well, I don't know if we want to talk about this,

528
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 8: but it was like it created a lot of drama

529
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 8: at VH one because you had sort of just had

530
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 8: on the front page of People Magazine, on the cover

531
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 8: People Magazine, your big marriage to Charlie at the mansion.

532
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: A million dollar wedding on the Yeah, you were getting

533
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 2: a magazine.

534
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, like this kind of americ You're kind of getting

535
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 4: in the American sweetheart territory, improbably after all this time,

536
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 4: and then this was just like blew it up. And

537
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 4: so was like, oh my god, because the marketing obviously

538
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 4: was so tied to you and your persona, and this

539
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, now she's getting pressed as like the

540
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 4: home wrecker and the whole are and the slut the Jezebel.

541
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 3: Which is so unfair because you're not even that slutty.

542
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: That flutty I know, Donna Martin the Virgin always wanted

543
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: to be a slut, never been one.

544
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: Donna Martin gratuated.

545
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: And then procreated and appropriated and appropriated and procreate and procreated.

546
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 3: Okay, tell us the acts funny line.

547
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 5: Yes, when when we were shooting, you were so you know,

548
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 5: the relationship with Dean was so new and fresh, and

549
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 5: you guys were so in love and inseparable all the time.

550
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: And then they're like starting.

551
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: He was there every day in my trails, every day,

552
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: all the time, having sex like in between every.

553
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 5: We all new and and and there started being these

554
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 5: rumors that you were gonna you know, you can't, you

555
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 5: can wait to have babies. And I was like terrified

556
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 5: that you were going to become pregnant during the show,

557
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 5: and Zach quin to torry, you can't the baby. You

558
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 5: can barely sustain life. For what.

559
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I could barely take care of myself. How

560
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: could you stay in life?

561
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 4: Yet? Definitely, remember after one of those late nights in

562
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: the editing room and you wanted us to get some snacks,

563
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 4: and we got you a yogurt, but there was no spoon,

564
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 4: and you were like too lazy to go up and

565
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 4: get a spoon. You're in the yogurt with your hands,

566
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: with your.

567
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 5: No, no, no, it was a catchup packet. She was

568
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 5: dipping the Ketchup packet into the yogurt and then sucking

569
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: the yogurt off the Ketchup packet.

570
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: I mean, sounds good to me.

571
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 3: He's resourceful, resourceful, and you know what.

572
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 5: The other thing that's kind of nice is you're not,

573
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 5: you know what, up tight. You don't have to be fancy,

574
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 5: you'll you'll. She's a girl who eat yogurt off ketch

575
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 5: Up pockets.

576
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: Mhm