WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 082722 Handling Black Trauma (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>And now bring my mic back. You're like that journal time.

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<v Speaker 2>You can strikes with Waters headquarters behind.

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<v Speaker 1>Him and be the borders. If you're just tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>acidic cipher. I'm your host Rams this job. He is

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<v Speaker 1>ramdas John. I am q Ward and you are listening

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<v Speaker 1>to say it sid for this Indeed, I stick around

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<v Speaker 1>and still that a lot more show for you. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna touch on a few more of these topics and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna discuss how it feels to have to wade

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<v Speaker 1>through all this, because if you are one of our

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<v Speaker 1>non millenated brothers or sisters and this is your weekly

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<v Speaker 1>dose of an alternative reality, it might not be over

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<v Speaker 1>as overwhelming. But a lot of this stuff feels very personal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very triggering. It reminds us of stories we lived through,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've mentioned, and so we're gonna discuss that a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit as well. Also, we're gonna spend some time

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the history of rhythm and blues. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about the history of house music. It's black

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<v Speaker 1>roots that go to Chicago to a very specific drum

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<v Speaker 1>machine and some gospel samples and some disco music. But

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<v Speaker 1>now we're going to talk about R and B and

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<v Speaker 1>first though, we're going to talk about becoming a better ally.

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<v Speaker 1>Bah bah. So we've asked many times for you to

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<v Speaker 1>consider donating to the NAACP. Of course, you can always

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<v Speaker 1>donate to Civic Cipher, But the NAACP is a very,

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<v Speaker 1>very old institution, and they fight battles on fronts that

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<v Speaker 1>we are just not as effective with. You know, on

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<v Speaker 1>those fronts, they go behind doors, they do this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. Well, we're going to let you know some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that your dollars go to and ask

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<v Speaker 1>again that you continue to support the NAACP. So we

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<v Speaker 1>got a letter from them recently and it says as follows.

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<v Speaker 1>When we say the NAACP is fighting to end racial inequality,

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<v Speaker 1>these aren't just words. Our work tackles every corner of

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<v Speaker 1>American life, from clean drinking water to fair legislative districts,

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<v Speaker 1>and thanks to our grassroots community, the NAACP has the

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<v Speaker 1>power and resources to advance equality on not just one front,

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<v Speaker 1>but on all of them. Here are just four of

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<v Speaker 1>the many issues we're fighting in our work for true

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<v Speaker 1>racial equality and freedom inclusive economy. After generations of discrimination,

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<v Speaker 1>investments in communities and color are vital to closing the

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<v Speaker 1>racial wealth gap. We're working with elective officials and private

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<v Speaker 1>partners to provide resources to black businesses, implement a federal

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<v Speaker 1>minimum wage council, student debt, reverse racist housing policies, and

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<v Speaker 1>more police reform and criminal justice. Our criminal justice system

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<v Speaker 1>is shaped by biased policing and unfair judicial precedence. After

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<v Speaker 1>securing the Executive Order on Police Reform this June, the

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<v Speaker 1>NAACP is pushing to go further now voting rights and democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>More than a century after the right to vote was

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<v Speaker 1>declared a fundamental right that's under attack. Since twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>the NAACP has challenged anti voter laws and over ten

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<v Speaker 1>states and is mobilizing two million activists to ensure black

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<v Speaker 1>voters are informed and black voices are heard. And then finally,

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<v Speaker 1>environmental and climate justice, which disproportionately threatens the health and

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<v Speaker 1>livelihoods of communities of color. So again, the NAACP could

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<v Speaker 1>always use your support, and that is how you can

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<v Speaker 1>become a better ally. Now back to these mini stories.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a story that we had to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>about a home that and we talked about this before.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember this a home that was appraised with a

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<v Speaker 1>quote black owner, the price came back at four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy two thousand dollars, swapped out owners with a

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<v Speaker 1>white owner, and then that home appraised for seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty thousand dollars. Nathan Connolly and his wife Shannie

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<v Speaker 1>Mott say an appraisal company undervalued their home based on

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<v Speaker 1>their race. Again, that comes from the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, this is something that we talked about on

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<v Speaker 1>the show before. We had a few examples back then.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember we had maybe three or four examples, and

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<v Speaker 1>those examples. You have to bear in mind that our

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<v Speaker 1>content for the show comes from reputable news sources. So

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<v Speaker 1>this made headlines as much as a year and a

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<v Speaker 1>half ago. And then of course this story we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about today is a recent headline. So you can see

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<v Speaker 1>these things are still going on. You can see how

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<v Speaker 1>these things contribute to economic inequality, which has innumerable factors

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<v Speaker 1>and it influences black life in immeasurable ways. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>just talking again about one facet. Can we get the

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<v Speaker 1>fair value of our house? You know, the same building,

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<v Speaker 1>same content, same location. We're just black and we own it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in fact, not for nothing. If I have

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<v Speaker 1>to ever have to get my house appraised, I'm probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna use the same trink because it seems like it works.

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<v Speaker 1>I can get some extra money off this property. But

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<v Speaker 1>it goes to show you what black life it can be.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know what I mean? And how how do

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<v Speaker 1>I say this? So there's something that we say, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to be twice as good to be good enough, right,

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<v Speaker 1>something like effectually, this is what is said in black circles.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to try twice as hard to get half

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<v Speaker 1>a chance these sorts of things. Is this is part

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<v Speaker 1>and parcel to our experience. This is sort of something

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<v Speaker 1>that illustrates exactly what we're on about. Let's say we

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<v Speaker 1>have a goal that we want to have a million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to leave to our children at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>our lives. You can very easily see that, yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to be twice as good, you know, to matter

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<v Speaker 1>in a world that is not really set up for

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<v Speaker 1>people like us to thrive. We're still human beings. We're

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<v Speaker 1>still endowed with the same consciousness, the same intelligence, the

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<v Speaker 1>same physical attributes and qualities and you know so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are systems in place and prejudices that exist

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<v Speaker 1>in corners either conscious or unconscious, that work against us

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<v Speaker 1>and our efforts to be all that we can be right,

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that this show exists to illuminate those

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<v Speaker 1>things is a testament to the fact that people need

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<v Speaker 1>to know about it, because if I was not telling

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<v Speaker 1>you this, there's a good chance you would never know

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. Especially if you're not a black person or

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<v Speaker 1>a brown person, these stories perhaps don't make their way

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<v Speaker 1>into your life, and that is I believe the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>tragedy of all of this. It's because I do believe

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<v Speaker 1>that if you've listened to me, if you listen to Q,

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<v Speaker 1>if you listen to Maggie, I believe that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a good person. Perhaps you want the world

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<v Speaker 1>to be a bit better place. Otherwise, why listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this content? And this might be the first time you're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing something like this, And this is every day for us, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the questions that we wanted to ask,

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<v Speaker 1>or that you know, our producer wanted us to ask,

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<v Speaker 1>is that is it okay that we feel like this?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna throw that one to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the quick and easy, straightforward answer is no,

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<v Speaker 3>is it okay to feel this way? Of course, Is

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<v Speaker 3>it okay that we feel this way? Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is grossly traumatic, and we have to spend a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of time kind of pretending not to be traumatized,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, because we'd be constantly angry, and if we

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<v Speaker 3>actually thought about our reality constantly, we'd be mad a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>And an interesting thing about us doing this show is

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<v Speaker 3>that we're reminded of our reality far more often than

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<v Speaker 3>really everyone else that we know. Yeah, so we have

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<v Speaker 3>to spend a lot of time. I have to spend

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of time trying not to be overtly angry.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's why I'm the least optimistic half

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<v Speaker 3>of Civic Cipher or third of Civic Cipher, right, because

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<v Speaker 3>like even some of the things that the NAACP is

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<v Speaker 3>fighting for, like I'm reading that stuff, Like you guys

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<v Speaker 3>can't really think this stuff is ever going to happen,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you can't like this country's going to be more

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<v Speaker 3>financially equitable for us, Like are you is anyone paying

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<v Speaker 3>attention to the entire history of not just this country

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<v Speaker 3>but the world?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Like we speak about.

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<v Speaker 3>What has become an absolute environment for us everywhere, right

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<v Speaker 3>anywhere on Earth that's been colonized, which is about eighty

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<v Speaker 3>percent of Earth. Racism exists because the colonizers were white,

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<v Speaker 3>white Europeans almost always Europe is what six seven percent

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<v Speaker 3>of the Earth eight I'll say eight percent of the

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<v Speaker 3>land mass on Earth, they've colonized eighty percent, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>we try to think back throughout history about the ideas

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<v Speaker 3>that well, any people with power would have no just

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<v Speaker 3>one group, for the history of Earth has sought to

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<v Speaker 3>go as far away from where they're from to take

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<v Speaker 3>everything from everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me add something right here.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm in so.

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<v Speaker 1>I I have to just so that I'm doing my

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<v Speaker 1>job as good as I can. I have to subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>to some far right racists pro white content, because I

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<v Speaker 1>need to know what people are thinking about. I need

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<v Speaker 1>to know what conversations you are listener are subjected to

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<v Speaker 1>when you go back home and have to interact with

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<v Speaker 1>your grandmas and grandpas with their trump hats. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to know what's going on in those circles

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<v Speaker 1>and do my best to try to give you information

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<v Speaker 1>to where you are armed when you are confronted with

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<v Speaker 1>these detached realities that your people might might subscribe to.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that I've find and it's

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<v Speaker 1>important that I share this with you. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>things I find is that you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times in these rooms on the internet, these places on

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet that white oftentimes men celebrate the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they are these conquerors. There are these great conquerors, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's really important to bear in mind

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<v Speaker 1>that to conquer is sure, it's something that a person

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<v Speaker 1>could do. You could wake up and say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to conquer someone else. Right, It's a philosophy

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<v Speaker 1>you could have. It's a way of life. Right, it

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<v Speaker 1>exists as a state of mind. And there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many others. You know. One of the things that a

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<v Speaker 1>movie we saw recently, it was Maggie b Knowan and

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<v Speaker 1>I she knew We saw a movie about the old

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<v Speaker 1>movie was called Avatar, the one with the blue people,

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<v Speaker 1>the real tall blue people on a planet long time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an old movie. We were watching it just

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<v Speaker 1>because it was on And you know, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the characters in that movie they were

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<v Speaker 1>based off of, like like native tribes that you might

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<v Speaker 1>have found.

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<v Speaker 3>A blue indigent indigenous culture. I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 3>we call them. People right, that's very specific to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were, they were alive, yes, so we'll leave

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<v Speaker 1>it there anyway. But these people, of these alive beings, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they were not, insofar as I could tell, focused on conquering.

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<v Speaker 1>That philosophy did not enter into their mind much like

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<v Speaker 1>or at least not conquering to the degree of what

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen with our European our brothers and sisters of

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<v Speaker 1>European and well.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually not at all, though you don't have to, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to trade semantics. They weren't interested in conquering

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<v Speaker 3>at all. Hunting, gathering, living, loving, And I think that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that is doable now.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is a lot of the people that I

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<v Speaker 1>find in these little corners of the Internet, they feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's eat or be eaten, kill or be killed.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is a philosophy. I am being fair. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It does exist as a philosophy right for all of

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<v Speaker 1>the jungle. But I think that as human beings being

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<v Speaker 1>more evolved, I think that we have the capacity to

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<v Speaker 1>cooperate with each other and uplift each other and fortify

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<v Speaker 1>each other. And I think that our tendency over the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of our time as humans, not Neanderthals and whatever

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<v Speaker 1>we were before we reached this part. The majority of

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<v Speaker 1>our time in this current form has been cooperative.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean to say that you're right, wouldn't even be

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<v Speaker 3>saying enough. Like, look over the readings and the ideology

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<v Speaker 3>of conquerors with regards to the very cooperative people they

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<v Speaker 3>can conquered. You like, listen to and read about how

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<v Speaker 3>they speak about our Aboriginal and Native people of this country.

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<v Speaker 3>The people that conquered them almost not almost made very

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<v Speaker 3>very light of how cooperative and accepting they were as

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<v Speaker 3>they planned to.

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<v Speaker 1>So watch this. So for those people who end up

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<v Speaker 1>on those corners of the Internet affirming how great a

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<v Speaker 1>conqueror the White Clan has been over throughout history, the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of us really don't see it that way. We wonder, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you need so much? It's like we feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's crazy to need to want more than you need.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you want more than what you want? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a tree that grows apples, right, and if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hungry, I can go to the tree and take

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<v Speaker 1>an apple and eat it. I don't need to take

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<v Speaker 1>the whole tree. I can't eat all the apples. That's

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<v Speaker 1>and then the tree.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you took the tree for yourself, why do

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<v Speaker 3>you have to take everyone else's tree?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm trying to say. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>the craziest thing, and so I just wanted to offer that.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Oh before I forget what I was going to say,

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<v Speaker 3>Racism exists in the entire colonized world. Nowhere does it

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<v Speaker 3>exist so flagrant and violently as it does here. So

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<v Speaker 3>is it okay to feel how we feel? Was the question?

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<v Speaker 3>My trauma starts there. My children are beautiful. I know

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<v Speaker 3>you think that about your kids too, and you should.

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<v Speaker 3>But my kids are incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's going to say, but, but.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not going to always be kids. Specifically, my boy,

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<v Speaker 3>as his arms and legs grow muscles, and the sun

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<v Speaker 3>kisses his skin a little bit more, and if one

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<v Speaker 3>day he doesn't wear his hair, how it grows out

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<v Speaker 3>of his head but he decides he wants to twist

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<v Speaker 3>it or braid it or lock it. How fast does

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<v Speaker 3>he go from this beautiful thing to something that, as

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<v Speaker 3>Ramses would say, scares people. I think that's crap. Until

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<v Speaker 3>he turns into something that they hate. You don't seek

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<v Speaker 3>out and destroy things you're afraid of. You run from them,

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<v Speaker 3>when you run towards them to kill them. That is

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<v Speaker 3>not fear. So yeah, it is okay for me to

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<v Speaker 3>feel this way, because how could I not. It is

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<v Speaker 3>not okay that I feel this way.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. I want to get back to what it means

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<v Speaker 1>for us to go through these stories every week. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a heavy dose every week. As we shared

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<v Speaker 1>on the show before, Q and I often will take

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<v Speaker 1>turns watching videos where we know we're going to see

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<v Speaker 1>some trauma, We're going to see black death or black harm,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we've come up with a system that

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<v Speaker 1>we think works for us, but it's only the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing we can say is that it works as good

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<v Speaker 1>as it can. We try our best not to watch

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<v Speaker 1>everything so that we're not overwhelmed and we don't become

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<v Speaker 1>desensitized to the loss of human life, in particularly the

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<v Speaker 1>loss of black life. One of the stories that we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get to this week is and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>we both saw this one, but this gives you an

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<v Speaker 1>idea of how heavy this stuff can be. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a soft person. I mean that from the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>my heart. I am not that, But I am a

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<v Speaker 1>human being who feels things. I think that's the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>thing I could say. I'm forty where somebody would say

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<v Speaker 1>something to me. You know what I'm saying, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing this right. We saw a video some police officers,

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<v Speaker 1>three police officers, and it was on a man and

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<v Speaker 1>it was punching his dude in the face. And then

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<v Speaker 1>an officer grabbed his dude by his hair and he

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<v Speaker 1>picked his head up. He slammed his head into the concrete.

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<v Speaker 1>Do me, fevor Maggie can find out what video that

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<v Speaker 1>was because I don't have it right here, but we

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<v Speaker 1>like it's hard for me to even talk about it, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, what is wrong with y'all? Why? Why is

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<v Speaker 1>that not? How can you feel good about that? Even

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody hurt you.

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<v Speaker 3>This person has already been subdued. This person is mounted,

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<v Speaker 3>This person is laying on their stomach, no weapon, not

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<v Speaker 3>posing a threat. There are three officers present. One of

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<v Speaker 3>them has gripped the side of this person's head by

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<v Speaker 3>the roots of their hair and proceeds to pummel their

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<v Speaker 3>head and their face into the concrete. There is no

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<v Speaker 3>explanation as to why that was necessary or how that

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<v Speaker 3>person who clearly doesn't have a stable mental situation. So

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<v Speaker 3>here's here's a peace officer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you said that man solicit So these these guys, Uh, Maggie,

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<v Speaker 1>just let it. Let us know that these officers are

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<v Speaker 1>from Arkansas and they're on paid leave right now, paid

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<v Speaker 1>because the lead because the investigated. The investigation is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the video isn't enough, right, we got to so again,

0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.639
<v Speaker 1>journalistic integrity compels us to tell as much of the

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<v Speaker 1>story as we know. At this point, the officer said

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<v Speaker 1>that this the gentleman that they were subduing, was he's

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<v Speaker 1>the person that initiated the the altercation. And that's really

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I got, you know. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>video picks up and it's someone just kind of filming

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<v Speaker 1>the officers. And then if you've seen the video, hopefully

0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.040
<v Speaker 1>we've given you enough if you want to look it up.

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<v Speaker 1>But I take our word for it. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>worth watching unless you really enjoy watching people get harmed,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't. It discussed. It just discussed like it

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<v Speaker 1>turns my stomach. I couldn't imagine.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually doing it that every time. Exactly, it doesn't go

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<v Speaker 3>away with my stomach every time. So you can see

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<v Speaker 3>on the officer's face as soon as they see that

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<v Speaker 3>they're getting filmed, because someone's like filming from like the

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<v Speaker 3>backseat of a car. Some I don't know exactly where

0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:23.880
<v Speaker 3>their vantage point is, but you could you could tell

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<v Speaker 3>they're not close to the officers. They've zoomed in all

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<v Speaker 3>the officers and they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching the officers just beat this guy and like Rodney

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<v Speaker 1>King beat him right. It surprises me that after that

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<v Speaker 1>officer slammed his head into the to the concrete with

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<v Speaker 1>all his strength, that demand didn't die. He's here people,

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<v Speaker 1>right in the concrete. Do you know that sound that

0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.199
<v Speaker 1>a head makes when it hits the concrete. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that sound. He did it on purpose, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>kept beating him after that. Nobody was like, WHOA did

0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 1>we wake up this morning to end the life? Because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it sounds like we're doing. Nobody stopped. You

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<v Speaker 1>might have noticed, however. What you might have noticed, however,

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<v Speaker 1>is that when one of the quote unquote good guys intervenes,

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<v Speaker 1>they get strapped up by their neck, sure or by

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<v Speaker 1>her neck. Yeah, you've seen that. And they do it

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<v Speaker 1>to police officers too. They'll do it to each other.

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<v Speaker 3>There is no equity in being the good guy in

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<v Speaker 3>that situation. You subscribe to what they subscribe to, or

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<v Speaker 3>they will make sure that they alienate, harm at least

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<v Speaker 3>alienate and harm you physically and probably and most likely

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<v Speaker 3>make you a pariah professionally as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's important that we say his name, so we will

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<v Speaker 1>say his name, Randall Worcester. I believe that's how I

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<v Speaker 1>say his last name. That's I know, the sauce, so

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:54.199
<v Speaker 1>I've always heard it as Worcester Sauce. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's if I've ever been saying that right, but anyway, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so Randall Worcester, and he's the person who is another

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<v Speaker 1>recent victim of police violence. And again we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>what it means for us. And we know that even

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<v Speaker 1>black people that don't work in a media space like

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<v Speaker 1>we do might not have to deal with the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff that we have to deal with, but that

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<v Speaker 1>amount is still not zero, and their personal connection to

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<v Speaker 1>seeing black bodies, just like there is being harmed day

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<v Speaker 1>in and day out, story after story over and over again,

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<v Speaker 1>can be overwhelming. And it's just something that we all

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<v Speaker 1>need to keep in mind because it's the sort of

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>thing that makes you want to pull into a well

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<v Speaker 1>lit gas station before you get out of your car

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<v Speaker 1>and interact with the police. There is a real, primal fear,

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<v Speaker 1>not imaginary like we often say, happens with the police,

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>a real fear because again, the police have the real guns.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's just keep that in mind. Moving on, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for the away Black history fact. This one comes

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 1>to you from Hip Hop Weekly Magazine. We pulled a

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<v Speaker 1>story from the Library of Congress, and today we are

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<v Speaker 1>discussing the history of rhythm and blues. So depending on

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<v Speaker 1>what station you're listening to, you might get an R

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<v Speaker 1>and B song after this, or it might have heard

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<v Speaker 1>one before we started talking. But it's important that you

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 1>know the history of all the music. Any music with

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:44.639
<v Speaker 1>the beat goes back to Africa, because that's where the

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 1>drum comes from and that's where the heartbeat comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>So we like to claim all that, but certainly R

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<v Speaker 1>and B is a little bit more of our modern history.

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<v Speaker 1>The term rhythm and blues, often called R and B,

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<v Speaker 1>originated in the nineteen forties when it replaced race me

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<v Speaker 1>music as a general marketing term for all African American music,

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>though it usually referred to only secular, not religious music.

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:13.200
<v Speaker 1>The term first appeared in commercial recording in nineteen forty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>when RCA Victor Records began using blues and rhythm music

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<v Speaker 1>as a descriptor for African American secular songs. The migration

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<v Speaker 1>of African Americans to urban centers in the Northeast and

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Midwest during the early twentieth century helped to bring various

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>regional styles of African American music together to influence one another.

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<v Speaker 1>The migration also created new markets for these styles of music.

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<v Speaker 1>Early on, the term rhythm and blues was used for

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>boogie woogie, African American swing, jazz, and blues. All these

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>styles of music influenced the development of what is called

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>rhythm and blues today. The meaning of the term continued

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>to change over time, and today it is still used

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:00.439
<v Speaker 1>as an umbrella term for many different African American music forms.

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<v Speaker 1>Historically speaking, though, a rhythm and blues as we understand

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 1>it today most often describes a style of music that

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<v Speaker 1>developed after World War One that combines elements of gospel, blues,

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<v Speaker 1>and jazz with a strong backbeat. The African American styles

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.920
<v Speaker 1>that emerged in those years were often played by small

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 1>groups that emphasized rhythmic drive over the instrumental and harmonic

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>complexity of the swing orchestras. Their vocalist often sang in

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<v Speaker 1>an uninhibited, uninhibited, and emotionally direct style. In major cities,

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:38.439
<v Speaker 1>teenage vocal groups with little or no instrumental accompaniment were

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<v Speaker 1>a growing presence. They took their inspiration from both gospel

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>singers and successful African American pop stylists. The term doo

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>wop is well known now, but it was not applied

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 1>to these groups until much later, and it refers to

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>the vocal vocabs and nonsense syllables these groups saying to

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>compensate for their lack of instruments. All these styles were

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<v Speaker 1>significant to the development of rock and roll a few

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>years later, though it began as a general term for

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>African American music. The synthesis of styles that became what

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>is now called rhythm and blues caught on among a

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 1>wide youth audience during the post war period and contributed

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>to changing the racial divide in American society and music

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.719
<v Speaker 1>of the mid twentieth century. Initially, white artists such as

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Elvis Presley performed and recorded or covered rhythm and blues

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>works by African American composers in order for those songs

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>to be marketed to white audiences, but the effect was

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:42.479
<v Speaker 1>to bring both audience audiences and artists with an interest

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>in this style of music together. The development of rhythm

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 1>and blues occurred just as segregation became a growing social

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 1>issue in American society. Both young black and white people

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>wanted to see the popular performers of the day, and

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 1>mixed groups of youths sang doo wop together on the

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>street corners of many urban centers. This provoked a strong

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:07.360
<v Speaker 1>reaction of proponents of segregation and was one reason why

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>rhythm and blues and early rock and roll were often

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>seen as dangerous to America's youth. But with young people

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>of all backgrounds identifying with these new musical styles, a

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>generation was becoming ready for a more equal society today.

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>According to Billboard, since twenty seventeen, the R and B

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>hip hop category has been the dominant music genre on

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the US Billboard chart, becoming bigger than pop and rock.

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 1>R and B and hip hop have really come to

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.360
<v Speaker 1>define modern popular music with the rain that hasn't led

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>up since, growing in market percentages year over year and

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>accounting for almost thirty percent of all on demand streams

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>in the US the first first half of twenty twenty two.

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>The R and B hip hop variety is still far

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and away the industry leader, producing new hits and superstars

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>every day. Now, I do want to that comes from

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>the library comngress again. Now, I do want to mention

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>that this is not just an American thing. The same way

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>that American music and culture was spread throughout the world

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>later movies, the infrastructure that was built was on the

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>back of jazz music. Jazz is another black art form,

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>American black art form, as is rock and roll. It

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 1>did not start with rock and roll, did not start

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<v Speaker 1>with Elvis Presley. Many folks attributed to Chuck Berry on rightfullys.

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<v Speaker 1>And but the point I'm making is that World War One,

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<v Speaker 1>we sent our troops around the world. Those troops took

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<v Speaker 1>jazz music, black American jazz music around the world, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that turned the world onto American music, American culture,

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<v Speaker 1>and American entertainment. And you know how you nowadays see

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<v Speaker 1>black people's music being exported around the world. That started

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<v Speaker 1>way back then, and it was through the military, sending

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<v Speaker 1>our military around the world, and at different parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. It got away from us, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>we are here to make sure that the story is

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<v Speaker 1>told the right way that you know, one thing about

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<v Speaker 1>black people I believe is very true is that we

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<v Speaker 1>have no problem sharing our culture. What you and I

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<v Speaker 1>always say is we don't mind if you eat from

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<v Speaker 1>our table, just save us a seat. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that is would be said about you know, black music,

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<v Speaker 1>black culture, elements of black culture all around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>We love sharing our culture. You know, I've as someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's been around the world, que has been around the

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<v Speaker 1>world two to see Black American culture celebrated in places

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<v Speaker 1>where you wouldn't expect it to be celebrated. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those few things that does give me some satisfaction

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<v Speaker 1>and a little bit of hope that, you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>like Breonna Taylor, we weren't just born to die. We

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<v Speaker 1>can be beautiful and strange for a few years and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy ourselves and smile and raise our children.

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<v Speaker 3>And so.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you all for allowing me to share the history

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<v Speaker 1>of R and B with you, because music is something

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<v Speaker 1>that is of course near and dirty cues in my

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<v Speaker 1>heart as you as you may or may not know,

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<v Speaker 1>where DJs and this is our background and we come

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<v Speaker 1>from hip hop radio, so any chance we can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about music, will take it.

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<v Speaker 3>They love our rhythm. They, however, do not seem to

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<v Speaker 3>love our loes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I knew something profound was coming. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>pause for it. But yeah, you're not wrong there que anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to do it for us here on Civic Cipher.

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<v Speaker 1>So once again, thank you for tuning in, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>We had to live. These brothers are fabulous. Our lady

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<v Speaker 2>showing you where VROMB travel list was spig tones from

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<v Speaker 2>sunlight to mold busting on stage like then fights the

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<v Speaker 2>roll my mic back.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like that jonal list with journalist too.

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<v Speaker 2>We can strike back called borders with orders from headquarters

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<v Speaker 2>behind in the beline sides up in the borders with

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<v Speaker 2>press passing.

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<v Speaker 1>We bring it to you as it happens the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Love popped in from music.

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<v Speaker 2>You're wrapping the street compan the slash b xpando. You're

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<v Speaker 2>going to fight the slander with the proper propaganda.

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<v Speaker 1>What's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>It's how you got any questions to ask in deduce

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a TV show you're passing. And this from

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<v Speaker 2>a white wartime journalist.

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<v Speaker 1>Headlines, wait go, previews and reas