1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Crime alert. I'm Maancy Grace breaking crime news now Charlie 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Kirk suspects sick jokes after the shooting, They claimed the 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: life of Kirk. Are others in on the murder plot? 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Did he have help? Straight out to Drew Nelson for more. 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: NANCYE. Tyler Robinson's first court appearance Tuesday afternoon sees him 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: charged with first degree murder. But while the FBI was 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: still circulating grainy surveillance images, the twenty two year old 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 2: Robinson joined in on mocking the shooting in a discord 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: group chat. According to The New York Times, an acquaintance 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: tagged him with one of the photos and wrote, wya, 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: where are you at with a skull emoji? Robinson quickly 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: replied that it was his doppleganger trying to quote get 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: me in trouble. When another user joked quote Tyler killed 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: Charlie four exclamation points, Robinson quipped it back that the 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: group should only turn him in for the FBI reward 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: quote if I get a cut, He went on to say, 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: he quote better also get rid of this manifesto and 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: exact copy rifle I have lying around. In another message, 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: he even claimed quote I'm actually Charlie Kirk wants to 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: get out of politics, so I faked my death. Now 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: I can live out my dream life in Kansas. Now 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: investigators are probing a possible accomplice. The US Sun reports 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: that FBI agents are reviewing doorbell camera footage showing a 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: man walking through a neighborhood near Utah Valley University minutes 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: after the shot was fired. The man who appeared to 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: be talking on a cell phone about the shooting has 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: raised concerns that Robinson might not have acted entirely on 28 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: his own. Officials have publicly said they believe he was 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: the lone gunman, but they also stressed that quote all 30 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: lines of inquiry are ongoing. Charlie Kirk, aged thirty one, 31 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: was hosting the first stop of his American Comeback tour 32 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: when the sniper's bullet struck his neck. It had just 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: begun a campus debate series organized by Turning Point USA, 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: the group he co founded at eighteen. Kirk was one 35 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: of President Trump's closest allies, earning a reputation as a 36 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: so called kingmaker in Republican politics. Robinson was identified two 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: days later after his father recognized him in the FBI 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: photos and turn him in. He's being held without bail. 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: Thanks Drew more Crime and Justice news. 40 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: After this, a New York judge dismisses two terrorism charges 41 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: against Luigi Mangioni, the man accused of killing United Healthcare 42 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 2: CEO Brian Thompson, leaving a second degree murder count in place. Mangioni, 43 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: aged twenty seven, appeared in Manhattan court for the first 44 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: time in five months. Judge Gregory Caro throughout counts a 45 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: first degree murder as an act of terrorism and second 46 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: degree murderer as a crime of terrorism. He ruled the 47 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: evidence was quote legally insufficient. Caro said that while prosecutors 48 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: stressed Mangioni's ideological motive, the law requires proof that a 49 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: killing was meant to quote, intimidate or coerce the public 50 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: to qualify as terrorism. Mangioni still facing second degree murder, 51 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: which carries twenty five to life. The next hearing is 52 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: December first. Mangoni stands accused of gunning down Brian Thompson 53 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: on December fourth of twenty twenty four outside the Midtown 54 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: Hilton Hotel, hours before Thompson was set to speak at 55 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: an investor conference. Police arrested Mangioni at McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. 56 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 2: Officers said they found a three D printed gun, a 57 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: fake ID, and a notebook with writings the prosecutors claimed 58 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: show his intent. One entry reading quote the target is insurance. 59 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: It checks every box. Mangioni has pleaded not guilty. He 60 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: also faces federal charges, including murder through the use of 61 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: a firearm, which makes him eligible for the federal death penalty. 62 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: Prosecutors say that case will follow the state trial in Pennsylvania, 63 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: where he was arrested. He faces charges of forgery, carrying 64 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: a gun without a license, and giving a false ID. 65 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: Mangioni remains held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn 66 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: without bond. His attorneys argue that the federal and two 67 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: state eight cases overlapping put him in a quote untenable situation. 68 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: They've also asked the court to suppress evidence from his arrest, 69 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: calling the search of his backpack unlawful. Musician Lil nas 70 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: X is now an inpatient treatment somewhere that's not California 71 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: as he faces felony charges tied to a bizarre arrest 72 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles last month. On Monday, the twenty six 73 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: year old real name Montero Hill missed a pre trial hearing. 74 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: His lawyers told the court he was quote in treatment 75 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: at an undisclosed facility. Judge Shelley Samuels allowed him to 76 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: remain there as long as he stays in the program. 77 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: If he moves to outpatient care, the court will revisit 78 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: his release conditions. His next hearing is set for November eighteenth. 79 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: Outside court, his lawyer, Drew Finling, spoke to reporters, we. 80 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 4: Don't have court for a couple more months. Obviously you 81 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 4: heard the treatment word. We're doing what is best for 82 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: Montero from a personal standpoint and a professional standpoint, but 83 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 4: most importantly for his well being. He is surrounded by 84 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: an amazing family, an amazing team of people care about 85 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: him and love him, and we're just addressing those issues. 86 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: It's really as simple as that he's had a great life, 87 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: he'll continue to have a great life. This is a 88 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: bump that he's going to get over and on behalf 89 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: of him. His family is making sure that he addresses 90 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: all those issues right now. 91 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: Hill was arrested before dawn on August twenty first, after 92 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: police responded to calls of a man walking on venture 93 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: a boulevard wearing only underwear and cowboy boots. A criminal 94 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: complaint alleges he fought with officers, injuring three of them 95 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: and tried to obstruct a fourth from doing his job. 96 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: He was hospitalized after the arrest, then booked into jail 97 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: four days later. He pleaded not guilty to three counts 98 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: of battery with injury on a police officer and one 99 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: count of resisting an executive officer. Bail was set at 100 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: seventy five thousand dollars. His father, Robert Stafford, recently spoke 101 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: out about the toll fame and family struggles have taken 102 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: on his son. Writing a special piece for the Times 103 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: of London, Stafford said, quote, I understand how the music 104 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: business is. It's like a high. When you get to 105 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: that level, you want that drug again. You want to 106 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: hit that high again. He said his son faced pressure 107 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: as quote a breadwinner for a lot of people. Stafford 108 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: described breaking down in tears when he saw his son 109 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: in jail. Quote I had to tell him that what 110 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: you're going through is normal. He recalled his son, being apologetic, saying, quote, 111 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: tell everybody, I'm sorry they saw me like that. He said. 112 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: The ordeal has been very stressful, but he believes his 113 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: son will recover. 114 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: Quote. 115 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: We all have breakdowns every now and then, but the 116 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: difference is yours get played out in the public eye. 117 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: Hopefully this is a turning point in his mental stability. 118 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: Sometimes God will take you through your worst moment to 119 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: give you your best moment. Hill himself echoed that outlook 120 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: in a video defense after his release, quote, that was terrifying, 121 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: that was terrifying last four days. But your girl is 122 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: going to be all right. If convicted, he faces up 123 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: to five years in prison. 124 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: For the latest crime and justice do use go to 125 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: crimeonline dot com and please join us for our daily podcast, 126 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 3: Crime Stories, where we do our best to find missing people, 127 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 3: especially children, and help solve unsolved homicides. With this crime alark, 128 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: I mean see Grace