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Speaker 1: and they could have put a spy plane over the

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00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 1: top of the site and in you know, the Green

432
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: Buyer was kind of like all by itself out there,

433
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: so it was right and they covered they and they

434
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: covered it up with the with the you know, the

435
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: background story that hey, we're we're expanding the Green Bride.

436
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: They made that. You know, they put it under a

437
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: big extension of the hotel and resort itself that they built,

438
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: which was absolutely brilliant. Yeah, there's some of those stuff

439
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell the audience about, you know,

440
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: because the show is good, but like why they built

441
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: it at the Green Buyer in the beginning and not

442
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: on a military base. It's kind of there's an interesting

443
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: backstory to that I wasn't aware of, and you know,

444
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: having been there and and taking the tour, I I

445
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: don't recall that, So that was something I missed or

446
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention at the time. And then and then

447
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: also about um, how they tried to maintain secrecy and

448
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: find out if anybody knew what was going on, which

449
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: is apparently the CIA was active in the area. Yes,

450
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell how they did that, but

451
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: that was so. But but some of the stats in

452
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: that place were and it was hidden in plain sight

453
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: because some of the facilities were dual used. They were

454
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: used by guests at the hotel. Who did it had

455
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: no idea part of this underground bunker complex. They had

456
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: no idea. It's some people who had like conventions or conferences.

457
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: There had no idea that that was you know, the

458
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: meeting rooms, and it would be the offices of the

459
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: you know, the the government. Even the balloon went up, Yeah,

460
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: it would be it would literally be where Congress would

461
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: be holding sessions, and uh that was that was there

462
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: was some really fascinating things. If I ever get back

463
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: up there, that's definitely gonna be on my list. I

464
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: want to take that tour at that place, because first

465
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: of all, it's a huge resort. Yes, but I want

466
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: some of the I've want some of the other stuff

467
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: that killed meets done. And I think what's really great

468
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: about these stories is that how granular are how they

469
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: are able to drill down on the on the details

470
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: of these things, not just this big, you know, bird's

471
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: eye view of things, but really get down into the

472
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: in the human side of of what it took to

473
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: make the stuff that probably meant that story. I mean

474
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: even they get down to like a construction worker going

475
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: to his boss and going, hey, what are we building here?

476
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: Because the guy that suspicion and the guy goes, hey, look,

477
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: we're paying you really well and off the looks and

478
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: one of the things were paying you to do is

479
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: not ask questions like donay, okay, sure, okay, boss, I

480
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: just get back. He probably thought it was some mob

481
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: activity where you know, on the hotel where they're going

482
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: to have gambling or something you know, so, yeah, like

483
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: a speak easy or something out of the place in

484
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: the fifth where they built what are we why are

485
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: we building a single the ground field and don't ask Okay, okay,

486
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: take your paycheck, go home down. So but it's but

487
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: it's interesting is that sometimes the best way to keep

488
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: a sequence is to sort of hide it in plain sight.

489
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: Exactly it was. It was really really a fascinating program.

490
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: But all the stuff that killed me didn't let me

491
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: in America. Great. Those are all really interesting programs. They're

492
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: not they're not dull at all. You just like you

493
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: just did watch them, you want to see the next one.

494
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: So there's a whole new season of that coming out,

495
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: and if you're if you're Fox Nation member, definitely uh

496
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: definitely watching to give us your feedback on the site.

497
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: So I'd like to hear what you're thinking them too,

498
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: that they're really really fun, fun shows. There's also a

499
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: new season coming out of part of Abbey Hornsett when

500
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: she's taking everybody through the National parks and I think

501
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: you've got to run down on which ones they're covering

502
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: this time. But they're really great and really something the

503
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: National Park system is. If you've been to them. They're

504
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: really so amazing stuff. Why don't you give them the

505
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: list of the stuff that there that they're going to

506
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: be going through this season? Yeah, let me pull that up,

507
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: because that is uh, that part is I've watched a

508
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: few of those in they're pretty interesting. And having been

509
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: to so many of our national parks, um, it's it's

510
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: pretty uh you know, I haven't been to all of

511
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: them obviously, but I've been to a lot of them,

512
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: and uh, it's definitely worth checking out. Now now I'm

513
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: I had it right here on my computer, the list

514
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: of the ones. Here we go, and so let me see. Yeah,

515
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: these things are better than the brou shorts, you know,

516
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: as far as getting an overview of what to see

517
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: and how they came about. Also because I mean I've

518
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: been the National parks two are so immense and you

519
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: could spend you could spend weeks, um and some of

520
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: these parks going through and not see everything that's there.

521
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: So these these shows are given a great, great background

522
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: on these parks and the things that are must size,

523
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: and I mean they're really good if you're planning on

524
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: going into the National parks. This is this is like

525
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: a These are great climbers to show your kids or

526
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: show yourself if you haven't seen. Let's see, I just

527
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: had it right here on my computer and pull it up.

528
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, these these shows that we're talking about,

529
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: you definitely got to check these out on Fox Nation

530
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: because they they were a ton of fun. They were

531
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: really um interesting and you you were talking about the

532
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: human element and that that's what makes them. You know,

533
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: we were talking about what made America great. I think

534
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: Brian killed me and you mentioned that you know what

535
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: he did, and that was he kept bringing the human

536
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: element into that and our national parks are so awesome.

537
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: And let me see, I just had it right here.

538
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: I keep looking out of it somehow, But anyway, we'll

539
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: we'll get back to that. Um. And just as I

540
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: got it, she's going to the she's going to the

541
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: Grand Canyon, UM and you're gonna get to see the

542
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: Grand Kenya basically from she's doing it from a helicopter too,

543
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: so that should be cool. Four seasons were twenty episodes. Yeah.

544
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: Now she's going to um Biscayne, which is my home,

545
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: my hometown there, and my people don't realize that there's

546
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: a national park in this t bay. So it's uh,

547
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: it's really cool. I sailed across this team Bay one

548
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: time when I was a kid in a small twelve

549
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: club pram Yeah I did, I did. Yeah. We lived

550
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: at Coca and Grove and I said, I stipped school

551
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: and got in my little boat and sailed from basically

552
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: west to west to east when all the boat traffic

553
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: is north to south. It's a very busy bay. So

554
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: I got big trouble for doing that because I got caught.

555
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: So I was. I was twelve years old, I think

556
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 1: at the time, so I didn't realize just how dangerous

557
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: that was. But this came bay. Um, she's going to

558
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: Great Smokey Mountains, which I've been to, and that's an

559
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: amazing that's an amazing national park. Those are That's a

560
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: place you could know. I'm glad they turned that into

561
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: a national park. It's absolutely, absolutely gorgeous. She's going to

562
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: Guadalup Mountains, which I've never been to. Um that So

563
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: have you been out that far west? I've been out west,

564
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: but I haven't been the Guadalupe. So this thing, apparently

565
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: is is wrepped up in the history of the Muscalero

566
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: patchies and the ranches who are out there who are

567
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: basically both living there at the same time. So here

568
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: you are a cattle rancher with apache Indians. That must

569
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: have been a very delicate balancing act. And I'd like

570
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: to see what that homeowners Association meeting was home. And

571
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: and then New River Gorge in West Virginia. So I

572
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: think I've been to New River Gorge, but I was

573
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: too young, i think, to actually appreciate it. But and

574
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: that is a gorgeous place, yeah, Mason Verdi m hm.

575
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, West Virginia's gorgeous. A beautiful place that

576
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: West Virginia is. And you know, uh, one of the

577
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: neatest places I've been to was Harper's Ferry, which is,

578
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, big in our Civil War type history. Just

579
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: before the Civil War, the the abolitionist John Brown rated

580
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: the you know Arsenal. Yeah, at Harper's Ferry, and it's

581
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: such a beautiful town. And a quick story about that

582
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: is yeah, I mean you're talking about West Virginia because

583
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: we were just mentioned in The Greenbrier. And then the

584
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: guy that the army sent in to put down there,

585
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, John Brown was led by Robert E. Lee,

586
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: who was a colonel in the United States Army at

587
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: the time, right, and the troops were Marines. The troops

588
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: from Marines, yes, all the way to West Virginia. That

589
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: must have been my limited. What's is the army busy

590
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: this weekend? Why don't we gotta go all the way

591
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: to nobody because nobody else you can send? Um, I

592
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: guess they were. And the funny thing it was another

593
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: bit of history there there was a lieutenant who came

594
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: from the cavalry out in Texas that was trying to

595
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: get Roberty Lee at that time, who was the U. S. Armies.

596
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: He was kind of like the purchasing officer for the army.

597
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: Um they were trying to get a new saddle for

598
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: the for the cavalry and he went into, you know,

599
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: trying to sell this the Colonel Lee, and Lee took

600
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: him with him to Harper's Ferry and he was kind

601
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: of like the liaison to actually went in to try

602
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: to talk to John Brown. And that was Jeb Stewart

603
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: who later fought with Yeah in the Oh wow, yeah,

604
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: that that's you know, there was the he was so

605
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: small back then relatively speaking, that these guys that were

606
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: each other, Yeah, they all knew each other. They went

607
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: to West Point together. They all served together. Most of

608
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: those guys were in the Mexican American War together and

609
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: knew each other from that conflict. Um. It was a

610
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: very interesting thing. I mean, we think of the Civil

611
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: Wars being the sort of war again brother against brother,

612
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: but it was true in the military too. These were

613
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: guys that quite often knew each other, um, you know,

614
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: very well before the war even started. But yeah, being

615
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: like a kind of a military historian, the first time

616
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: I saw Harpers Ferry, I was like, yeah, I can

617
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: see why they built a federal facility because it's you've

618
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: got those two rivers. You've got the the Potomac and

619
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: the the chest Pea, the chest no um, oh no,

620
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to draw another I don't know, I know,

621
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: I know. But anyway, the confluence, so those twoever is

622
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: coming together made that a very important sort of strategic

623
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: choke point and beautiful. It's like if you go if

624
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: you go to West Point, it sits up on it

625
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: sits up on that bluff overlooking overlooking that river. So

626
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, it was west Point. Was it

627
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: was a fortress, you know, it was a purcast so Nadelis. Yeah,

628
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: Shennon Doolah at the stomach where they come together, and

629
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. There's a beautiful rail tunnel runs there. Um. Yeah,

630
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: that's that is a beautiful West Virginia. It's just like

631
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: a gorgeous place. Um. But we should we should move

632
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: on to uh piece access new new season. You've got

633
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: a whole drop on July two, Untold Patriots Throvial the

634
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 1: second season. The first season was great, this great stuff

635
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: in that first season. So he's going into his second

636
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: season now. And this is that same thing that Fox

637
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: does where they tell these very human stories. Um, it's

638
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: of just these big pot orgies. They bring you down

639
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: to the individuals who shape the American revolution. And there's uh,

640
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: I think there's four or five and five new episodes

641
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: coming out on this so it should be it should

642
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: be really pretty cool stuff. You were telling me about

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Speaker 1: let's get back to the show. And uh you you

667
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: mentioned Pete show. Um you know, growing up in Massachusetts,

668
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: I was enthralled with the story he did about Peter Salem,

669
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: who was. Depending on the accounts, he was either a

670
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: free black man or he was still a slave. But

671
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: he fought at the Battle of Conquered and then the

672
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: Battle of Bunker Hill where he actually killed the probably

673
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: the most famous soldier in the British Army at that time,

674
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: Major Pitt Karen. Yeah, he was at the Karen was

675
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: the guy that was in charge of the regiment, was

676
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: trying to come up. It was Breed's Hill. You know

677
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: about the Bunker Hell, but it was yet Breeds Hill,

678
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, he shot the guy. He shot the Karen

679
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: as he was stepping over the over the breastworks. I

680
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: mean they were like on top of him. And it's

681
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: kind of a sad note, but Pit Karen fell back

682
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: into the arms of his own son, who was a

683
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: lieutenant in the regiment. Um I kind of fall on

684
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: the side of of the guy being a freed a

685
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: freedman because he had been discharged and then he re

686
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: enlisted again. So I'm I'm thinking that that would be

687
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: the sort of thing that probably only get to do

688
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: as a freedman. I mean, once you got your first

689
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: initial and listen out of the way, there wasn't any

690
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: compulsory second term that you had to sign up for.

691
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: It was almost like a volunteer because guy's in revolution

692
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: signed up for one year terms as well. Washington's most

693
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: vaccine problems was that his whole army was recycling every year,

694
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: and trying to get guys to stay could be could

695
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: be a little tough. They were like, hey, I did

696
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: my part by somebody else, and this guy signed up.

697
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: This guy signed up twice, and he was everywhere. If

698
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: I recall he was at he was Saratoga, Um, I

699
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: think he was at Trenton, I Meanston. Yeah, and he

700
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: was like four major battles and the fact that he

701
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: lived through them was was pretty impressive. Um And and

702
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: then you know, basically lived a long, unhappy left after

703
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: the war. But yeah, that was a That's what I

704
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: mean about these shows. When you get down to these

705
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: a vidual stories of these guys, it's really really, really good.

706
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna do the one on Molly Pitcher. Yes, that

707
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: was a great one as well. But yeah, before we

708
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: move on, you know, I was telling you offline yesterday

709
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: that you know, the little town that we lived in

710
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: in Massachusetts, they try to lay claim to the first

711
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: African American soldier because he was part of the militia

712
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: and at that time the time of Milbury was uh at.

713
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: Sutton and Millbury were one one time, so he was

714
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: part of the local Militia's name was Peter Willard. He

715
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: was a free black man and he joined the militia.

716
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: They raced to Lexington. He fought at Lexington, then had

717
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: conquered and then joined the Continental Army and fought the

718
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: entire war coming back, you know, after the war was over.

719
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: He was a revered member of the small town of Milbury,

720
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: mass which had one of the federal um armories. At

721
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: the time they used to make muskets for the h

722
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: It was one of the six um places that made

723
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: weapons for the military. He was a revered member of

724
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: the town of Melbury and his portrait hung in Milbury's

725
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: town hall until it burned down in a fire in

726
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: so and his grave is marked as a soldier of

727
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: the Revolution and he's buried in the uh you know

728
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: graveyard there in the old part of town. You know,

729
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting when you look at portrait artwork

730
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: from that period of time. You know, artists skills were

731
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: actually fairly aware. People had really lousy taste because so

732
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: much of the illustration were back then looks like like

733
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: middle school cartoon work, you know, by my kids. And

734
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: sometimes it's really hard to entify these guys, um because

735
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,959
Speaker 1: the the representations of them in art were so rudimentary

736
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: and simple, you know. Um, there's a lot of the

737
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: images that these guys didn't survive, you know, like Washington

738
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: and Adams and the Jefferson. These guys they could afford

739
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: to bring in painters that could really you know, could

740
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: really do the job. Um. But looking at some of

741
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: the stuff and some of the some of the artwork

742
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: that they sound some they shows, You're like, Costa looks

743
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: like like a kid's cartoon. Some of the stuff, you know,

744
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: can you draw? Yes, sort of you know, Okay, you're high,

745
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: you know, and let's have these guys out there, you

746
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: know drawing this stuff. But yeah, the stuff they did

747
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: on the Revolution has been really cool. I really like

748
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: the the show they did about Washington crossing the Delaware

749
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: and marble Head, the marble Head Regiment, which you and

750
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: I were kind of chatting about when when we were

751
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: talking about that episode about we think of Washington's army

752
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: as just being in this bunch of militia farmers and

753
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But these guys from Marblehead were like

754
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: a specialized riverine regiment. You don't even think about how

755
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: many rivers there are in Massachusetts that they had to cross,

756
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: and how many how often Washington like it was a

757
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: Delaware At the Battle of Trenton. They did that in

758
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: the middle of the night in a snowstorm on a

759
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: frozen river, which for most armies would have been unthinkable

760
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: to do. And then when he when he were treated

761
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: over to Manhattan across the Hudson River, did that at

762
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: night too, so so he had a capability to move

763
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: his army across rivers, which was actually a very hard

764
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: thing to do. That's why they fought over bridges so much. Um.

765
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: But that destroyer of those guys from from Marblehead and

766
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: the kernel that led them was really really interesting and

767
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: it was a part of that river history. I did

768
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: not know about it that if it hadn't been for

769
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: those sailors and fishermen from Marblehead, he might not have

770
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: been able to pull off that attack on trent because

771
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: swimming was not something people did back then, let alone

772
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: at night on a frozen river. The idea of going

773
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: in a boat across that when you're a landlubber, would

774
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 1: have been like facing a tiger in terms of fear.

775
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: And it would have only been possible if he had

776
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: guys who knew what they were doing on boats, and

777
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: knew how to load boats, and knew how to navigate

778
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: boats and get them across the river with a bunch

779
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: of soldiers that were scared to death that they were

780
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: going to drown in all their heavy wool clothes in

781
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: the middle of a snowstorm. And I don't think he

782
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: lost a man crossing that river, which is amazing that

783
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: they crossed enough thousands for nine hours without losing a boat,

784
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: which is really quite a thing, quite a feat. Those

785
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: those guys the day deserve an awful lot of the credit.

786
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: It's it's like it's like Washington his own marine contingent

787
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: that was a part of his army um. And you

788
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: just you think of guys being artillery guys and calvary guys,

789
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: and and guys that were specialists and supply and quartermasters,

790
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: but you don't really think about the riverine specialty, which

791
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: is one of the most difficult military operations to pull off,

792
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: is to cross the river. So it's a it's a

793
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: very difficult operation, and and Washington was pulling this off

794
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: more than thirty years ago. It's it's really amazing stuff.

795
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: So that's what you get out of these shows. And

796
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: the other thing that I really liked was that, uh,

797
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: it doesn't rely on the on the sort of dry

798
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: restortation and a lot of illustration. They go to these

799
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: places and talk to people are experts on it and

800
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: do some reenactments and stuff like that. Watching those guys

801
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: fire those muskets, you see the flash off of that thing,

802
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: and it's sparks plant off, and it's like, this is

803
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: six inches from your face when you pull the trigger

804
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: on that rifle, on that flint block, and you have

805
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: this flash and spark that's six inches away from your pace.

806
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: I imagine these guys caught a lot of stuff in

807
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: their eyes. They kept their eyes closed when they when

808
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: they pulled the trigger, which probably we don't do that

809
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: now with firearms and spoils your aim, but back then

810
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: they were they must have had to. And if you

811
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: were I can't imagine you wouldn't be just a little

812
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: blind after those flashes in your face for several hours

813
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: of fire in that rifle. It must have been you

814
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: would have some effect on your eyesight sore. And a

815
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: lot of those guys at the end of the battle,

816
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: their face was blackened from the powder, you know, being

817
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: so yeah yeah, And you know misfires too, you know

818
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: those those those were you pour the powder into this

819
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: bowl and they holped your flint strikes it properly. I

820
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: don't know how they kept their powder dry. You know,

821
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: we say that keep your powder dry. Um. But they

822
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: were in the middle of winter and us at the

823
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: Battle of Trenton, and they had crossed the river in

824
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: a snow stone that was turning into sleet and rain

825
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: and and I don't know what they're thick heavy wool uniforms. Yeah,

826
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean, and they got eight they took eight teen cannons.

827
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: So the cool thing about that episode that one in particularly,

828
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: they showed the boats that they crossed over with and

829
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 1: they took horses and cannons across. And how did they

830
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: do that in those boats? So I'm thinking they must

831
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: have lashed tour them together, put a platform, wanted to

832
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: move the horses across. But you would definitely have to

833
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: have guys who knew how to handle boats in order

834
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: to pull that off. Not a bunch of landsmen just

835
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: trying to like, you know, they wouldn't understand weight distribution

836
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But they these were you know, armpowered

837
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: boats and it row these things with oars that we're

838
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: tlled fourteen ft long, So they had rowing crews to

839
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: get these things across. But it would have been fascinating

840
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: just there watch how they did. And Washington had enough

841
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: confidence to say, Okay, we can do it. I can

842
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: I can trust the fate of my army. And indeed

843
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: the entire American American round lusition two um, these guys

844
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: from Marble had and that that was That was quite

845
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: a thing. That was quite a thing. That Battle of

846
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: Trenton was a big deal. I've been to that battle

847
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: field and you know, uh, a lot of it is missing,

848
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: but there's still a lot of it there. And taking

849
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: a tour there one time, one of the guys giving

850
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: the tour told us that several of Washington's men now pictures.

851
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's wintertime, it's snowing, sleet, freezing rain.

852
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: Some of his men had no shoes. Yeah, they were

853
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: in rags. Yeah, there was some sturdy stuff. Those guys

854
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 1: are made us some sturdy sturdy stuff. I mean they

855
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: were They were amazing guys. And I've always hear we

856
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: talked about like the greatest generation, which we always tend

857
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: to associate with the guys that fought in World War two. Um,

858
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: But in my opinion, the greatest generation were the men

859
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: who fought in the American Revolution because they were willing

860
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: to die for freedoms and liberties and a country they

861
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: would never know that they would die before they ever

862
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: had the freedom that they were fighting for, and I

863
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: think that made them really great men. There was a

864
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: tremendous self sacrifice on that that I think is unmatched.

865
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's one thing to go to war to

866
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: defend everything that America is. There was another thing to

867
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: fight and die with the hope of what America could be.

868
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: Good point. Yeah. The other untold patriots revealed with Pete

869
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: HEGs that I really liked was Molly picture Um. And uh,

870
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: you know, there there were so many conflicting reports of

871
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: who Molly Pitcher wasn't actually a real name. It was

872
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: what they called the women who brought water to the

873
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: troops out on the battlefield. They called them all Molly Pitchers.

874
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: But the story that Pete did was. They actually tried

875
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: to track down who was the actual Molly Pitcher and

876
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, took her husband's place on the cannon. A

877
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: lot of it, you know, grew with time, but she

878
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: the story that they tell and that one is definitely

879
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: worth checking out, and we don't want to give too

880
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: much of it away, but yeah, we hope all of

881
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: our listeners out there definitely checked that out. One of

882
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: the things I really like about the whole series that

883
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: he's doing is that it um it tells you that

884
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: that is the American Revolution wasn't just in the hands

885
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: of of these of a certain type of American. It

886
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: was the hands of all these guys. It was in

887
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: the hands of free blacks, and the hands of women,

888
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: and the hands of fishermen and farmers. I mean, it

889
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: really was a very much an organic um revolution in

890
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: a sense that that everybody felt like they had a

891
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: part to play. Yeah, there wasn't a political elite that

892
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 1: was yeah yeah, and they weren't being and these people

893
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: weren't being flogged to the front. You know. One of

894
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: the things that we don't um one of the reasons

895
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: that we won the revolution was because our guys were

896
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: very committed. You know the Hessians that that George Washington

897
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: defeated Trent and were mercenaries. Literally mercenaries were soldiers Germans

898
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: that had been hired to King George by this German lord,

899
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: I can't think of his name now, basically gave him

900
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: this regiment of troops for payment and then sent them

901
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: over to the United States. And it was because the

902
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: British soldiers are having a hard time shooting at the colonists.

903
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: They were having a hard time shooting them, so I

904
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: thought it'd be easier and more terrorizing if he used

905
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: these foreign mercenaries, which is one of the gripes and

906
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: the Declaration of Independence about sending foreign mercenaries, foreigners to

907
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: fight the American colonists. They were very insulted by that idea.

908
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: And in the British Army had, you know, a very

909
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: brutal system of conscription where guys were just sort of

910
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: snatched up and taken and forced to serve in the

911
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: army um and our guys were pretty much all volunteers.

912
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: They were all guys that stepped up and said no,

913
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: I want to serve and whatever. They lacked in military proficiency,

914
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: and they certainly did lack in military proficiency in many cases,

915
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: they certainly made up for in sheer desire and and

916
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: will to win. M made all the difference in the

917
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: world because there were two armies. You know, there was

918
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: Washington's regular troops and then you had militia's that the

919
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: augmented them. And Washington himself wasn't very pleased with the

920
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 1: quality of the militia that was being said to augment

921
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: his army. But those guys had a different style of fighting.

922
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: They were Indian fighters to a large extent, which was

923
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, skirmishing and sniping, and the set piece battles

924
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: that were fought in that era were very much about

925
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: lining up and blasting away to each other with muskets

926
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: from a hundred paces away from each other, and that

927
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: was that was a terrifying way to find a war.

928
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: So those guys trying to push them into the line

929
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: and enforce upon the kind of disciplinement those set piece

930
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: battle armies like the British and Washington's regular spot was

931
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: something completely alien and foreign to them. But if he

932
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: used them the right way, they were very effective. I mean,

933
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: they can be very effective at harassing and interdicting British

934
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: supply lines are doing all kinds and things like that.

935
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: But in set piece battles, hey and do so good,

936
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: and that was that was a very difficult way to

937
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: fight a war from those guys, But the the guys

938
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: who did fight were absolutely committed to the guys that

939
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: stayed with him. Ballet forward, We're we're true patriots. Um,

940
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: I went through that horrible winter living outdoors in dugouts basically,

941
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: and oh there's a story about that. You know, Washington

942
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: would get all these communications from the Continental Congress that

943
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: would say to him, Look, we're trying to get blankets

944
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: for you, and and we're trying to get uniforms, and

945
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: we're trying to get you know, um salt peter to

946
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: make gunpowder, and we're trying to get all these supplies

947
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: for you. In Washington like cut him off and goes, look,

948
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 1: just send me tobacco. I can get anything I need

949
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: if you send me tobacco. Can I can barter tobacco

950
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: for everything else. Just give me a break. Just send

951
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: me tobacco. I can get anything else I need with that.

952
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: Which is kind of interesting how currency worked back then.

953
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: It was very much a barn A Barterer economy, and

954
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: we were issuing commental script all stuff that really wasn't

955
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: worth anything, and Congress didn't really have the ability to

956
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: levy money. They were asking for donations basically from the

957
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: colonies to fight and washing. Just give me tobacco, I

958
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: get anything else I need with that. So it's kind

959
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: of interesting. This is very interesting fun. Yeah. And one

960
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: of the things that that came out in the shows

961
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: about the American Revolution on Fox Nation was that, you know,

962
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: a lot of the rank and file of the British

963
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: military look down upon the colonists at the time, and

964
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: now we look at him as American soldiers, but some

965
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: of the British officers that had served with them during

966
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: the French and Indian War had a very very different, um,

967
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, perspective on how good of soldiers these guys were,

968
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: because they had fought the French and Indians and they

969
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: used their tactics and then it was something that they

970
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: were not used to and it took a toll on them,

971
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: especially early in the war. Yeah. Yeah, Well, one of

972
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: the features of that French and Indians war was, you know,

973
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: it was a war between Indian tribes and there was

974
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: also a war between the French and the English, and

975
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: it was. It was a very weird kind of proxy war.

976
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't I can't think of anything in that time

977
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: period that sort of equaled it in terms of the

978
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: the politics of it um. But it very much was

979
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: officially as dense wood. It was very, very hard to

980
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: fight those big set piece battles where you just line

981
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: up in the field and shoot one another until one

982
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: side loses too many guys. There was an awful lot

983
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: of sniping and small skirmishing actions that were fought between

984
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: those armies, and they the Indians, were very good fighters.

985
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: They really knew how to they really knew how to

986
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: use the train and well most of them weren't musket

987
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: on They were using bows and arrows and hatchets. So

988
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: everything was kind of close order of battle, you know,

989
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: close quarters um battle, so the same thing, take a

990
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: take a rifle out in the woods and how far

991
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: can you should it? Not very far? A tree will

992
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: catch you around. So a lot of that fighting was brutal,

993
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: very very close ranging ranges, you know, a hundred and

994
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: fifty feet away when you finally saw the guy you

995
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: were trying to fight with, and if you were coming

996
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: over as a European army in the French of the

997
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: British and trying to fight in the woods of New

998
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: York or Pennsylvania or Michigan under his own places. You

999
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: found yourself in some pretty dense stuff. I mean, they

1000
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: were very hard to move an army. They had to

1001
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: pretty much build roads while they were traveling to move

1002
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: things around. So it was it was one of those

1003
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: wars drag on. There's not a lot of battles in them.

1004
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 1: Sometimes you think, what gosh, because it took so long

1005
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: to you know, get yourself set up the fight. You know,

1006
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: you were destinally trying to find the right conditions to

1007
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: fight a European style of war, while around you you

1008
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: have all these Indian tribes in these militias, both the

1009
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: French and the British fighting it out in the woods

1010
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: in these small skirmish actions were very very very very

1011
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: tough fight, very and a brutal one. I mean, they

1012
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: weren't they weren't nice to each other out there. There

1013
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: was no quarter given in any of those no, and

1014
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: civilians were targets and you know, homesteads were villages get

1015
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: burned down. I mean, it was it was an exercise

1016
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: in pot of war, very different than the kind of

1017
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: sort of you know, gentlemen of friends, would you care

1018
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: to take the first shot? Kind of you know, conflicts

1019
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: that they had in Europe. It was most uncivilized. Um,

1020
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the councilor contemporaneous from British

1021
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: officers that fought in the Americas were like, oh my god,

1022
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: this is a terrible place to find war. It was awful,

1023
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: which is kind of funny because it's our country. Back then.

1024
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: It was sort of this untamed wilderness to a large extent,

1025
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: and the British were it was a wild West kind

1026
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: of thing to the British who came over here and

1027
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,919
Speaker 1: fought because it was like nothing, nothing like nothing they've

1028
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: ever seen on the continent of Europe. So it's a

1029
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: very very very different kind of very very different kind

1030
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: of war. For that, should we uh, should we talk

1031
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: about something for the ladies. Yes. So one of the

1032
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: things that there's a new show that's going to be premiering. Um,

1033
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: we're recording this on the thirties, So this is there's

1034
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: a new show that's it's premiering A Learner of the

1035
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: White House that's being hosted by Rachel Campos Stuffy, who's

1036
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: a frequent contributor on Fox News, and she's going to

1037
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: be looking into the history some of our nation's first ladies,

1038
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: like Dolly Madison and Mary pop and Edith Wilson, Ellano Versevelt,

1039
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,479
Speaker 1: and it's sort of like the woman behind the Man

1040
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: kind of thing in terms of the presidency and how

1041
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: important they were to um to the presidencies of their husband,

1042
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: certainly in the case of Ellen or Roosevelt, certainly in

1043
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: the case of Dolly Madison. I mean, the War of

1044
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: eighteen twelve went on in the midst of the Madison

1045
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: administration and they evacuated Washington because the British, you know,

1046
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: came and burned our capital, which is why we had

1047
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: a right house. It was originally sort of I think

1048
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: it was a great granite and it got burned black

1049
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: the British. So they painted it because the stone had

1050
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: been marred. And that's why it's called the White House

1051
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: today because they paid it. But I think it was Madison,

1052
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: Dolly Madison that rescued um. And there's George Washington's poetrait

1053
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: that the famous poetsman approach Washington. I mean, they had

1054
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: the vactory, the cavili spent them accneection peculation independence and

1055
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: the Constitution and the records of Congress and all the

1056
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: congressmen stuff. They will basically slicked on their lives so

1057
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be captured. And all Madison was, you know,

1058
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: pretty heroic and and taking charge and assisting in that evacuation.

1059
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: We tend to think of women back then as being

1060
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: just sort of like, you know, standing in the background,

1061
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: but that wasn't really the case at all. They were

1062
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: very They were very active in the presidencies of their

1063
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: of their husbands, you know, working behind the scenes and

1064
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: charitable causes and things like that. But it should be

1065
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: an interesting shell um. It will be very interesting, especially

1066
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: I think the one about Mary Todd Lincoln will be

1067
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: very interesting because that would sort for mental illness and

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Speaker 1: her husband was assassinated, one of her children died, and

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Speaker 1: three of her three of them in so she was

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Speaker 1: she was a unique person to be some to see

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Speaker 1: their treatment of her wife. I mean that there were

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Speaker 1: reason to be depressed. That would be one of them

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Speaker 1: or four of them, losing your husband and three of

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Speaker 1: your children. So was way ahead of her time when

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Speaker 1: it comes to yeah, and also a first time a

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Speaker 1: wartime first lady, you have the uh. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: a kind of war where if you lose, you know,

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Speaker 1: you could expect the journals in the Japanese would shoot

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Speaker 1: you right next to your husband. You know. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it's a different perspective. You think of first ladies today,

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Speaker 1: who are you know, holding social functions in the White

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Speaker 1: House and things like that. Some of these first ladies

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Speaker 1: were like involved in war, some of them very closely

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Speaker 1: and would be thinking of, you know, I just could

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Speaker 1: get me killed, like probably Matson. You know, he can

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: tust me my life. This isn't the tea party they

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Speaker 1: promised me. You know, I can get captured by the

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01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: burgers at home. So they had some pretty harrowing experiences

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Speaker 1: in this. So Edith Wilson of course, is with the

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Speaker 1: Wilson's wife, and that was during the one Um. And

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of actually of the ones that think, actually,

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Speaker 1: I don't think one of them wasn't involved in in

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Speaker 1: a conflict of some kind. So that that will be

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01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: interesting show to catch. And I'm going to watch it

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01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: too because I think their stories are part of the

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Speaker 1: Marthan history as well. And me and I were both

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Speaker 1: big history boxes. So that will definitely be on the

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Speaker 1: That will definitely be on the list of must must

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Speaker 1: watch kind of stuff. And then I think, finally we

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Speaker 1: come down to um to look to Lee Greenwood's show.

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Speaker 1: That's that's going to be broadcast on the eleven. So

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Speaker 1: you and I grew up listening Greenwood, whether we were

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Speaker 1: or not, right, you know, when the when the Lee

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Speaker 1: Greenwood's on God Bless the USA came out, of course,

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01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: that was like a huge hit at the time, and

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01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: then during the First Gulf War that became like icon

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01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: of that that error. And I mean it was played

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01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: everywhere or if you were in the military and you

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01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: went somewhere, people played it for you. And no offense

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Speaker 1: to Mr Greenwood. It's an awesome song. But I got

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01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: so sick of that song by the you know, the

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Speaker 1: early nineties. It was like, oh my god, they're not

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01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: gonna play it again. You know, well, it would be

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01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: like hearing the national anthem every day on the radio

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01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: four or five times. You okay, okay, you know, I

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01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: get it. I get it, But it's sort of like

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01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: the it sounds like the unofficial it's like the second

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Speaker 1: national anthem. Yes, and you know what what makes it

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01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: neat is when he you know, he travels around um

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Speaker 1: to visit troops all over the world and they always

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Speaker 1: play it and he sings it for them. Those are

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Speaker 1: kind of neat moments. Those they're very neat moments, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna show that in the show Proud to be

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Speaker 1: an American. And Lee is a guy who made I

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01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: don't know how many appearances over the years the us

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01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: O shows. I mean, if the Troops tour overseees, he

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01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,479
Speaker 1: wanted to be there, and that isn't easy. He could

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Speaker 1: have stayed in Tennessee outside Memphis and played golf. You know,

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01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: the royalties on that song would have kept him. Basically, Yeah,

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01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: it riches creases for a lot of time. But from

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01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: from my understanding is those USO tours are tough. They're

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01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: they're not they're not luxury tours. Those guys, those guys

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01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: are sign up with it. They don't live high. When

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01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: they're flying a military they're helicopter on them. Yeah, and

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01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: they're constantly on the move. I mean, they don't spend

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01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: a lot of time at one specific place. So it's it's, uh,

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01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: it wears on you. I've talked to a couple of

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Speaker 1: people that have been on those tours. And they say

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01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: those I mean because they try to get, you know,

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01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: the people that are going on those tours to see

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01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: as many of the you know, troops out there that

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01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: they can, and that's the whole purpose of it. But yeah,

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01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: and they zoom them around, um and it's a whirlwind

1144
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: kind of thing, like sometimes two or three performances a day.

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01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: And you know, I've had some you know, sort of

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Speaker 1: ideological philosophical differences with celebrities, but I have to say,

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01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: when I find out that they're out there on the

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01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: road doing USO tours for the troops, are kind of

1149
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: like a man, Okay, I guess they're not such bad guys.

1150
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: You know, we kind of think of of Hollywood as

1151
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: being all, you know, hardcore leftists, but some of these guys,

1152
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: they genuinely care about the troops and they unlike performing

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: at some kind of a charity benefit where you just

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01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: basically right off your four hundred thousand dollar appearance and

1155
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: then get back to your limle and go back to

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01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: your mansion and every hills. When these guys that go

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01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: on these USA tours that they go out for a

1158
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: while and it's it's rough living. It's it's it's hard work, um,

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01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: obviously not as hard as it is to be a

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01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: soldier in there, but they're deaf really getting an idea

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01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 1: of what it's like to be in the military to

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01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: go and do those shows. So I got a lot

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01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: of respectful lee and I'll be interested to see what

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01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: this show um looks like on the on the eleventh,

1165
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: because he's a great entertainer's I will probably better how

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Speaker 1: a long time you to see what other kind of guests.

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01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: And this kind of brings us back to what we're

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01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 1: talking about before that that if you're inclined to enjoy

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Speaker 1: present in the way it moves forward. You're very I'm

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Speaker 1: I couldn't awarded it any better myself, my friends. So

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Speaker 1: you know, Fox Nation is great. You know when we

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Speaker 1: with those uh, those folks over there at Fox. We

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Speaker 1: we got to speak with Pete Exit on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll get one or two more of the some

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Speaker 1: Apple and Android devices. Sean, what can I say? This

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Speaker 1: was fun. We don't get a chance to do this

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