1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey brain 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Stuff Laurina vogel Bomb Here. Think about salted caramel ice 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: cream with chunks of pretzels in it, kettle corn melon 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: wrapped with perscuto, or dates stuffed with cheese, or pineapple 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: fried rice, or the classic combo French fries dipped in 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: a milkshake. If you're like me, this is making you 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: very hungry. The marriage of salty and sweet is one 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: that feels like it shouldn't work, and for some people 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't, but for others, it magically and deliciously does. 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: We can't get enough of it. Too much sugar is 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: overly intense, and too much salt is rinse your mouth 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: out puckering. But when you mix the two, the combination 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: is heavenly. So what's the science behind this phenomenon? First, 14 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: let's talk about how our sense of taste works. We 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: have five primary types of taste receptors in our mouth 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: and nose, sweet, salty, sour, bitter, and savory or umami. Umami, 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: by the way, comes into our lexicon from Japanese. It 18 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: was coined by the chemist who first isolated MSG or 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: monosodium glutamate in nineteen oh eight. He wanted to sell 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: MSG as a food supplement that could make bland but 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: nutritious food more appealing, so he derived the word umami 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: from a colloquial word for tasty. So yes, umami is 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: a Japanese marketing term from the nineteen ox Anyway, a 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: contrary to what you probably learned in elementary school, each 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: taste bud on your tongue can sense all of these flavors, 26 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: and other nerve endings around your mouth and nose can 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: as well. Our bodies evolved with taste receptors for good reasons. 28 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: We detect sweetness in order to help fuel our bodies 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: with carbohydrates. We taste bitter to hypothetically protect our bodies 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: from something potentially damaging, though lots of us decided that 31 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: we dig the mild danger there, and we take salt 32 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: to provide our bodies with a necessary nutrient. Now you've 33 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: probably heard that you're supposed to watch your salt intakee 34 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: and if you eat a lot of processed or pre 35 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: made foods, you probably should. But the sodium in salt 36 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: is necessary for a few of our bodily functions. It 37 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: helps your cells and organs maintain their proper fluid balance. 38 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: It's used in the contraction and relaxation of your muscles fibers, 39 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,559 Speaker 1: including you know your heart, and it transmits nerve impulses. 40 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: You need some sodium in your diet, and since sodium 41 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: molecules are fickle, the best way for us to get 42 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: it is via salt. And salt isn't just a nutrient either, 43 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: it's a flavor enhancer. So it stands to reason that 44 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: if you mix sugar and salt, the salt will enhance 45 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: the sugar flavor. A chef's and flavor scientists call this 46 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: flavor layering, and the right mix, not too sweet not 47 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: too salty, gives your brain a positive biological response. Part 48 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: of this positive response can be chalked up to a 49 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: set of experiences called sensory specific desire and sensory specific satiety. Okay, 50 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: because humans are omnivores, and because there are a number 51 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: of nutrients that our bodies need that we cannot make 52 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: ourselves and thus need to consume through food, we are 53 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: wired to desire a variety of foods and tastes. A 54 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: meaning will eventually tire of the same taste over and 55 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: over again. So if you gorge yourself with sweets, and 56 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: only sweets, you'll stop wanting more after a while, and 57 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: the same goes for salty, you'll satiate yourself on that flavor. Conversely, 58 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: studies have shown that eating a bunch of sweet stuff 59 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: can make you crave different flavors like salty or spicy, 60 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: and eating a bunch of salty stuff can make you 61 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: crave sour or sweet. So when you layer flavors, you're 62 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: scratching more than one itch at once. Your brain is 63 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: left us bored or overwhelmed by any single flavor, so 64 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: the combination is more craveable. Food scientists use this in 65 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: the creation of packaged snacks to make us want to 66 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: keep eating. It works with textures too. Treats are nice, 67 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: just watch your portion sizes. The positive side of this 68 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: slightly sinister food design trick is that when you're done 69 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: with a snack that involves a salty sweet flavor duo, 70 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: you might be less tempted to reach for another different 71 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: flavored food. Today's episode is based on the article why 72 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: do sweet and salty taste so good together? On HowStuffWorks 73 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: dot com, Written by Deborah Ronca, with additional material from 74 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: my other podcast saver. Brain Stuff is production of by 75 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: Heart Radio in partnership with how stuffworks dot Com and 76 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: is produced by Tyler Klang. But for more podcasts my 77 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 78 00:04:52,279 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows. M