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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 2: You know, I look at NFL training camp. No news

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Speaker 2: is good news for me because you can get guys

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Speaker 2: and say, oh, Shardoor Sanders yesterday completed X number of

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Speaker 2: passes and didn't throw any interceptions. Okay, Deshaun Watson threw

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Speaker 2: two interceptions.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Patrick Mahomes looking good. Okay.

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Speaker 2: You see what happens in training camp is the news

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Speaker 2: that emerges is bad news. Somebody got hurt, or you

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Speaker 2: might have somebody holding out or holding in. Jamir Gibbs

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Speaker 2: and Jon Robinson, and this is interesting to watch for

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Speaker 2: me because we'll get to the salaries here in a moment.

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Speaker 2: But they're not the traditional running back and it wasn't

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Speaker 2: that long ago. Running back was the NFL's toughest place

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Speaker 2: to cash in. But Gibbs and Robinson gives place for Detroit,

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Speaker 2: Robinson for Atlanta. These guys are chess pieces and they'll

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Speaker 2: be up there for the offensive player of the year.

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Speaker 2: But the timing is interesting for both of these players

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Speaker 2: because whichever player signs first is going to establish the market.

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley is the highest paid running back I think

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Speaker 2: at around nineteen million dollars, but these two are waiting,

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Speaker 2: and the waiting game is going to be worth millions

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Speaker 2: the Lions and Falcons. You want to get a deal

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Speaker 2: done obviously as soon as possible. The earlier you get

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Speaker 2: a deal done, the cheaper the contract becomes. Because if

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Speaker 2: Gibbs signs first, Jean Robinson's going to say, well, I

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Speaker 2: want more than what he's getting, and he might have

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Speaker 2: every right to be able to do that. But these

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Speaker 2: holdouts or hold ins are really interesting with these two

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Speaker 2: players at that position. Highest paid running backs going into

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Speaker 2: this season. Saquon Barkley is at twenty point six, Christian

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Speaker 2: McCaffery nineteen million, Devon a Chan sixteen million, Breeze Hallmaker

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Speaker 2: fifteen point two, Derrick Henry fifteen, Kenneth Walker can I

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Speaker 2: makes fourteen point three. These players are probably going to

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Speaker 2: be in that twenty million dollar range.

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Speaker 3: I would think.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they make more than Sakwan Barkley,

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Speaker 2: but they're gonna come pretty close to that. So NFL

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Speaker 2: news training camp news, the best news I can get

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Speaker 2: is there's no news out of camp because somebody's gonna say, hey,

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Speaker 2: that rookie looks good Okay, you might be looking good

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Speaker 2: at the end of July. I want you looking good September, October, November, December.

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Speaker 2: Even with Patrick Mahomes, you know, you can see him

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Speaker 2: moving around a little bit, you know, another month. That's

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Speaker 2: what I'm really curious about, how he's going to be then.

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Speaker 2: What I care about now, and this is why I

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Speaker 2: want to check in with the Kansas City Chiefs is

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Speaker 2: you can be running around anybody who's had surgery, knee surgery.

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Speaker 2: It's not the running around, it's the day after the

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Speaker 2: running around, and that's when you want to know if

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Speaker 2: they're swelling, if you know there's still inflammation in there.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes isn't running away from anybody who's trying to

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Speaker 2: hit him, at least not now. That's what I care about.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the Chiefs are interesting. Get your offensive

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Speaker 2: line back, healthy canine comes in. This is the first

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Speaker 2: time they've invested in a running back. They had Edwards Hilaire.

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Speaker 2: Remember that that was a luxury pick and I thought, damn,

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Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs did it again. I think, last

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Speaker 2: pick of the first round, and you go, yep, we

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Speaker 2: got him, and I go, oh man, they've got their

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, not exactly, and then you find Pacheco didn't

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Speaker 2: pay him. But the Chiefs are still fascinating. Kelsey comes back.

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Speaker 2: I think if you're Kelsey, you're going to come back.

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Speaker 2: If you know Mahomes is going to be ready to

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Speaker 2: go week one, I don't think you want to come

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Speaker 2: back and go Wait a minute, is he going to

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Speaker 2: be out the first month and Justin Fields is going

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Speaker 2: to be Now that's a luxury. I think Justin Fields

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Speaker 2: because you have to prepare for that kind of quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But Kelsey, I don't know about Rice Worthy. Were these

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Speaker 2: one of those guys man? He can fly, Kenny Cat Kenny,

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Speaker 2: Kenny run routes. There's a lot of guys who can fly.

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Speaker 2: What do you like? Tyreek Hill could fly and he

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Speaker 2: could also run, you know, routes. So you know, I

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Speaker 2: look at Kansas City. You know, defensively, are they going

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Speaker 2: to be imposing? Because their last Super Bowl they led

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Speaker 2: with Kansas City didn't win the division last year.

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Speaker 2: And it's hard to count anybody, you know, any team

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Speaker 2: that has Patrick Mahomes on it. But when you're coming

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Speaker 2: back from knee surgery, you automatically favor it and what

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Speaker 2: happens sometimes and quarterbacks have talked about this. Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: talked about that with me a long time ago when

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Speaker 2: he blew out his knee against Kansas City. You're always

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Speaker 2: thinking of or seeing or think you're seeing or feeling

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Speaker 2: you're okay, it's guys getting close to you and you

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Speaker 2: can't help but think consciously or subconsciously. That'll be the

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Speaker 2: big hurdle for Mahomes. Get that out of your head.

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Speaker 2: Are you still able to plant? You're able to have

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Speaker 2: the same motion. Now he's different because he's like Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: These aren't your seven step back plant fire. They're constant

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Speaker 2: moving front foot, back foot, side, you know, delivery. And

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Speaker 2: I think with Mahomes so a little bit different. Brady

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Speaker 2: and then follow through. Mahomes is not. But we'll follow Uh,

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Speaker 2: We'll check in with the Kansas City Chiefs to follow

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Speaker 2: up on Patrick Mahomes. Yes, Marvin is Mahomes more likely

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Speaker 2: to win MVP or Comeback Player of the Year. I

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Speaker 2: would say Comeback Player of the Year, But I don't

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Speaker 2: know who he'd be up against. I'm sure there are

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Speaker 2: other guys who went through you know, jad and Daniels

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Speaker 2: would be up there as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dylan, I've got the comeback Player of the Year

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Speaker 3: odds if you'd like well.

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Speaker 4: Of course, Patrick Mahomes the heavy favorite plus one eighty five,

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Speaker 4: followed by Jaden Daniels plus four fifty, then Kyler Murray

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Speaker 4: plus five fifty.

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Speaker 3: Okay, when did he come back from the Cardinals?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Fairport, I have Super Bowl odds. We're still waiting

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Speaker 2: for Aaron Donald to show up at RAMS camp. And

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Speaker 2: I had somebody tell me yesterday who works with the NFL,

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Speaker 2: And I said, what do you think about Aaron Donald?

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Speaker 2: He goes, would you go to training camp if you're

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Speaker 2: Aaron Donald? And I go no, He goes, exactly, You're

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Speaker 2: just gonna go. You're gonna wait as long as you can.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to.

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Speaker 2: Now, you have to get in shape. You have to

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Speaker 2: get in football shape, and that's different than just regular shit.

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Speaker 2: But it seems like Aaron Donald has kind of maintained

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Speaker 2: his NFL body A lot of times. You'll see these

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Speaker 2: guys like Joe Thomas of the Cleveland Browns. He lost

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Speaker 2: fifty pounds. These guys they shed that weight they have

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Speaker 2: to when they get older. But with Aaron Donald, you're

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Speaker 2: not showing up for training camp, not until you have to.

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Speaker 2: And you know, my point is you're overwhelming favorites to

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl without you. Now, maybe DraftKings is

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Speaker 2: factoring that in that Aaron Donald is going to play,

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Speaker 2: you are the overwhelming favorite. And if you're Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 2: I know you pick off eight million bucks or ten

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Speaker 2: million bucks. I don't know what they're going to offer him.

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Speaker 2: You get to play forty plays, rotational player. Hell, if

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Speaker 2: you want to play home games, I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 2: All I want you is ready for the postseason. That's it.

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Speaker 2: Regular season can kind of get in shape as we

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Speaker 2: go along. But here are the odds Rams plus five fifty,

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Speaker 2: then it's the Bills at plus one thousand. Whenever he

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Speaker 2: had a disparity between first and second with the odds,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that seems like a pretty big disparity, Dylan,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we could check in on that.

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Speaker 2: But Rams plus five point fifty, Bills plus one thousand,

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Speaker 2: Ravens plus one thousand. They didn't make the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 2: Then it's the Super Bowl champion Seahawks. Then it's the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: Patriots and Chiefs. Eagles, Patriots, and Chiefs plus sixteen hundred.

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Speaker 2: Rams are big favorites in a division with the defending

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl champs. He tried to say, yeah, Seahawks plus

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Speaker 2: eleven hundred, then the Eagles, Patriots and Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Pauline, this feels like a little bit of a

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Speaker 6: slight to the Seahawks.

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Speaker 5: They don't.

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Speaker 6: They didn't get lucky last year. Fourteen wins. They outscored

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Speaker 6: their opponents by one hundred and ninety one points for

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Speaker 6: the season. That's the best in football. They didn't sneak

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Speaker 6: in Yeah, a bit of a slight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 6: Bulletin board, I guess I love that. Do you think

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Speaker 6: they actually have that? Like, is there a locker room

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Speaker 6: in the NFL that has a bulletin board and uses

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Speaker 6: anti media sentiment and puts it up there?

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Speaker 2: We get to ask Ross Tucker when he joins it there.

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Speaker 2: Ross will join us coming up next hour, Yes, Dylan, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Where are the thumbtacks?

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Speaker 4: Someone just wrote a mean article about it. The Rams

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Speaker 4: plus five fifty is sort of in the same ballpark

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Speaker 4: of like the Chiefs of a few years ago preseason,

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Speaker 4: where they're like plus five six hundred, and then there's

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Speaker 4: always a little bit of a gap between, like it

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Speaker 4: would be like the Ravens at plus one thousand or something.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, eh seven seven to three DP Show

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Speaker 2: operator Tyler sitting by. You'll take your phone calls Dylan

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Speaker 2: Poll question for hour one.

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Speaker 4: Well, Dan, uh, worse injury these days from a recovery standpoint,

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Speaker 4: Achilles tear, ACL tear or Tommy John because I know

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Speaker 4: we've seen a big shift in all of those, and

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Speaker 4: it always felt like Achilles tear was like the most catastrophic.

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Speaker 4: But I mean like you've seen guys like Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: Well Jason Tatum, Jason Tatum came back, you know. Now

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Speaker 2: it's like an eight nine month period to be able

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Speaker 2: to come back. But the key is to get surgery

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Speaker 2: right away. It always drive me crazy where somebody got

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Speaker 2: hurt and then they would wait like, you know, six

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Speaker 2: weeks to get surgery. Now, I know you have to

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Speaker 2: have this swelling to go down, but I think Shack

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Speaker 2: did that one year, didn't he wait to get surgery

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Speaker 2: know what year that was. Criticism, Yeah, rightfully, So get

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Speaker 2: the surgery done. Get this surgery done. With the Achilles,

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Speaker 2: it's still knees are the easiest to come back from.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've mastered that. But the Achilles and the

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Speaker 2: Tommy John both were career ending injuries. Now, I mean

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Speaker 2: Tommy John, they've got that down to a science. We're

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Speaker 2: just learning the process of the Achilles surgery.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Paulie, that was February of two thousand and three

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Speaker 6: with Shack he had a toe issue. Oh yeah, big toes.

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Speaker 6: He delayed his toe surgery and caught a lot of criticisms.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but guys don't want to come back and go

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Speaker 2: through the monotony, especially with training camp. But if you're injured,

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Speaker 2: dinged up a little bit trying to come back, just

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Speaker 2: how it feels where you're out there running, because you

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Speaker 2: can try to simulate playing in a game, you can't.

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Speaker 2: Mahomes isn't going to know until he knows till we

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Speaker 2: see it, Yes, Dylan.

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Speaker 4: I remember when Adrian Peterson taurs acl and came back

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Speaker 4: in like nine months and everyone was like this is

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Speaker 4: unheard of.

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Speaker 3: Well didn't he blow out both of them? Was it

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Speaker 3: just one? I think it was just one?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jack, Okay, Why I thought that he did both

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Speaker 2: of them?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marv.

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Speaker 5: And then the Chiefs first game.

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Speaker 2: I would have the tracking device on his phone, you know,

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Speaker 2: If I ask his six months ago, would you think

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Speaker 9: interesting to note as well. He's talked about this is

435
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Speaker 9: meeting Taylor, being with Taylor Swift. They talk about their

436
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Speaker 9: goal aspirations and what they want to accomplish. And I

437
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Speaker 9: think the fact that she continues to, you know, do

438
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Speaker 9: things differently and re evolve herself, the fact he's looking

439
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Speaker 9: at this going football is my life. He's talked about

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Speaker 9: being out here at Saint Joseph, Missouri as being his

441
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Speaker 9: sanctuary for football, and so I think at least one

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Speaker 9: more year to do that and to be able to

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Speaker 9: do the thing he's loved for so long and it's

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Speaker 9: become the part of his life that it's really going

445
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Speaker 9: to be difficult to give up. I think that plays

446
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Speaker 9: into this as well.

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Speaker 3: Are you allowed to ask about the wedding?

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Speaker 9: We haven't had him yet. I'm sure in a week

449
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Speaker 9: or two he will be asked about the wedding, But yeah,

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Speaker 9: we're allowed to. It just depends on the oir sponse

451
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Speaker 9: you're gonna get, and maybe the eye rolls are going

452
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Speaker 9: to get in the media room as well. But it's

453
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Speaker 9: a very interesting dynamic. I mean that's you know, I

454
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Speaker 9: did not envision getting into this job in sports journalism

455
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Speaker 9: and thinking I'd be interviewed by Vanity.

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Speaker 3: Fair, you know, to be quoted.

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Speaker 9: Because the biggest story since you know, Joe Demaggio and

458
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Speaker 9: Marilyn Monroe is has become Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey.

459
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Speaker 9: So there is a different dynamic here. You know, the

460
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Speaker 9: photographers show up two hours earlier or down and getting

461
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Speaker 9: their you know, camera set up in the hallways because

462
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Speaker 9: you know, you never know who's going to show up to

463
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Speaker 9: a Chiefs game, and obviously this has become a celebrity

464
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Speaker 9: event for many of these contests.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I'll give you the first question. What would

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Speaker 2: it be about the wedding?

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Speaker 9: About the wedding?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Oh man, now you got me unprepared here, which is

470
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Speaker 9: what I shouldn't be.

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Speaker 2: How about this? How about this? What was better getting

472
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Speaker 2: married or winning the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 9: You know, you want to talk about putting somebody in

475
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Speaker 9: a no win situation in beautiful Saint Joseph, Missouri and

476
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Speaker 9: Missouri Western's campus. Yeah, definitely could do that. But yeah,

477
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Speaker 9: the crazy part about all this, as you know, Dan

478
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 9: like all of the secretiveness around it, and then you

479
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 9: hear some stories and you want to believe them, but

480
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Speaker 9: you're not sure because of what's happened. So this really

481
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Speaker 9: is a different dynamic to cover the Chiefs. You sometimes

482
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Speaker 9: think you're, hey, just covering an NFL team, but all

483
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Speaker 9: of a sudden you're going to hit it by texts

484
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Speaker 9: from friends going are you in New York today by chance?

485
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Speaker 9: And no, I'm not, but we will get for their details.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure down the line you didn't get invited, did you.

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Speaker 1: I did not.

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Speaker 9: I'm not disappointed and I would not invite me if

489
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Speaker 9: I was hit either.

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Speaker 2: So great stuff. Thanks for joining us, Jesse, Hey, Dan,

491
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Speaker 2: appreciate it. That's Jesse Nowle.

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493
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494
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495
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496
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Speaker 3: Ross Tucker invited to the Wedding.

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Speaker 2: The Wedding CBS Sports Westwood One, NFL college football analyst,

498
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Speaker 2: host of the Ross Tuncker Football podcast, and he'll be

499
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Speaker 2: calling games for CBS in Westwood One this upcoming NFL season.

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Speaker 2: You want to start football, you want to start wedding.

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Speaker 5: Well, you had the I don't think you usually have

502
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Speaker 5: music on coming back from break when I'm coming on,

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Speaker 5: So I think that was probably a good leading indicator

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Speaker 5: of where you want to start.

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Speaker 3: All right, how do you get invited?

506
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Speaker 5: Like? It's so yeah, it's a great question. It's so

507
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 5: funny that people keep asking that. So I'm I guess

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Speaker 5: pretty close. I would say, with both families.

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Speaker 3: Not the reason. How do you get the invitation?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Text message? Text? Yeah, it was. It was a

512
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Speaker 5: text message, and I was highly skeptical. So I screenshoted

513
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Speaker 5: it and texted it to her dad and said, I'm guessing.

514
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 5: I said, this is a new one. Pretty sure I

515
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Speaker 5: should not click on this, right? And he said, click

516
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Speaker 5: on it. You're invited. That was a good day. That

517
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Speaker 5: was a really good day.

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Speaker 3: And how'd your wife react?

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Speaker 5: She did not believe it for a while. We had

520
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Speaker 5: to kind of go through it, and then she was

521
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Speaker 5: very excited, and then she had a lot of anxiety

522
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Speaker 5: about what she was going to wear and all of that.

523
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Speaker 5: It is, you know, I know it's public, Dan, so

524
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Speaker 5: you know you signed an NDA, so you can't tell

525
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Speaker 5: anybody so you know, we knew since March, so to

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Speaker 5: keep that quiet. And then of course because people know,

527
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Speaker 5: you know, my connection to both families, people were asking

528
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Speaker 5: you a lot and it's like, nah, we'll see or no,

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Speaker 5: can't talk about it.

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Speaker 2: So it was it was awesome, but you're not allowed

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Speaker 2: to talk about any details.

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Speaker 3: Correct, That's what it says.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if you do, what's that?

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Speaker 3: What happens if you do?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. The wedding's over, now what are

536
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 5: they gonna do? So no, I you know, I have

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Speaker 5: a lot of respect for everybody involved. I mean I've

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Speaker 5: known this, you know, tailors from my hometown, so I've

539
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Speaker 5: known her family for over the year year.

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Speaker 3: Year from her hometown.

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Speaker 5: That's correct. Yeah, that's probably actually correct.

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Speaker 3: At this point, is there a sign that says home

543
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Speaker 3: of Taylor Swift?

544
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Speaker 5: No, but there's there probably should be. It's funny, Dan,

545
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Speaker 5: like ten years ago, I went to a concert in

546
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Speaker 5: Nashville and I was talking with her mom before the

547
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Speaker 5: concert and I said, you know, I was probably the

548
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Speaker 5: most well known person from why Missing, Pennsylvania from two

549
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Speaker 5: thousand and one to whatever it was two thousand when

550
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Speaker 5: I was in the NFL and starting or whatever. I said.

551
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Speaker 5: Then Taylor came along and Dan, she looked at me

552
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Speaker 5: and dead serious said, well, you know, Ross, just keep working.

553
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 5: He was like, nope, I am conceding. I think I

554
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 5: had taken l on that one I lost.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was giving you a little confidence that you

556
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Speaker 2: might get up to Taylor swift stardom.

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Speaker 3: That's very nice of Taylor's mom.

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Speaker 5: It was very nice. I will say, I know you're

559
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 5: not allowed to talk about the details, but I know

560
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Speaker 5: it's public that these people attended, So I will tell

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Speaker 5: you one funny story. I mean, the whole night, by

562
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Speaker 5: the way, it was just like a movie and you

563
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 5: felt like you were on a movie set. I honestly,

564
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Speaker 5: it was one of the best nights of my life.

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Speaker 5: But the funny part about it, Dan, is because it

566
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Speaker 5: was like football guys and their wives, country music people, actors, actresses, whatever.

567
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Speaker 5: I think some of the people just kind of assumed

568
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Speaker 5: everyone there was like somebody so, uh, you know, the

569
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Speaker 5: ceremony is about to start. So I'm sitting in the seat.

570
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Speaker 5: My wife had to use the bathroom. She's coming back,

571
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Speaker 5: you know, from the bathroom, and I look down down

572
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Speaker 5: the aisle and she's talking with Russell Wilson and Sierra

573
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Speaker 5: or Siara. I don't know how you say it. She

574
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 5: doesn't know them, and evidently I guess Sierra said, hey,

575
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 5: how are you, and like hug Kara while I'm watching this,

576
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 5: And the next thing I see is this guy coming

577
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 5: up about to find a seat. He looks at Kara,

578
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 5: shakes her. My wife shakes her hand, hugs her, and

579
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Speaker 5: then she comes down the aisle. He turns around. It's

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Speaker 5: Tom Cruise.

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Speaker 3: It's Tom Cruise.

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Speaker 5: She comes back. I said, did you hug Tom Cruise?

583
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 5: She said yeah. I'm like, why she goes, I don't know.

584
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 5: I think he thinks I'm somebody else and stuff like that,

585
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 5: and like, I'm obviously biased, but I think my wife's like,

586
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 5: you know, the most attractive woman ever, So I can

587
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 5: see why people like I can totally see Tom Cruise

588
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 5: thinking my wife was like a country music star or something,

589
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 5: you know, and having no idea, Like Tom Cruise doesn't know.

590
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 5: He's probably like, and she's talking with Sierra or Ciara.

591
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 5: I still gotta find out which one it is. So

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Speaker 5: Tom Cruise probably just assumed that my wife, who runs

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Speaker 5: a propane business in central Pennsylvania, was like was like

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Speaker 5: a star or something.

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Speaker 3: Were you worried? Tom Cruise could have said, hey, what

596
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Speaker 3: are you doing after this?

597
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Speaker 5: Definitely not because my wife likes big guys.

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Speaker 2: Oh so I was not worried about Now you are

599
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: you calling out Tom for being vertically challenged?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying Tom and I have very very

601
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 5: different physiques.

602
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Speaker 10: Thank goodness, when my wife I did me in college

603
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 10: at three hundred and twelve pounds, that she liked that

604
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Speaker 10: because most Let's be honest, most girls don't.

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Speaker 5: Like most girls in college when they're blow drying their

606
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 5: hair or whatever, they're not saying to their friends, Hopefully

607
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 5: I can reach I can meet the right three hundred

608
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Speaker 5: and fifteen pound guy tonight. Nobody says that, but thankfully

609
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Speaker 5: my wife feels that way, and I literally thank God

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Speaker 5: every day for that.

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Speaker 2: He's Ross Tucker, CBS Sports, Westwood One and the Ross

612
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Speaker 2: Tucker Football Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to get in on the Aaron Donald game?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean he's gonna play at this point. It

615
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 5: would be a huge upset if he doesn't agree. I agree.

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Speaker 5: I think the question is when he comes back, you know,

617
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Speaker 5: and it's really obviously up to him. Does he want

618
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Speaker 5: to do some training. Does he want to just come

619
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Speaker 5: halfway through the season. I mean, I think we all

620
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 5: know what this is about. He's already a first ballot

621
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Speaker 5: Hall of Famer. This is about another chance at a championship.

622
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Speaker 5: So they really can just decide when it is that

623
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Speaker 5: he comes back. I'm really curious to see just how

624
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Speaker 5: productive he'll be. I mean, obviously he's still be a

625
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: good player. Will he be clearly the best Two years

626
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 5: off seems like a lot. I think the value is

627
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 5: it's not like he has to play fifty some snaps.

628
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 5: They really only need him for ten to twenty snaps.

629
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 5: Although that's an interesting question because I wonder what he

630
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 5: wants to do. I wonder if he's happy with that

631
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Speaker 5: or if that would feel weird for him. It's kind

632
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 5: of an It's a unique situation to take a guy

633
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 5: it's basically as good as they've ever been, and then

634
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 5: maybe you think it's in your best interest to have

635
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Speaker 5: him in a part time role so he's fresh and

636
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 5: ready to go in the playoffs. But does he want

637
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 5: to be in a part time role? Was that awkward

638
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 5: for him? You know, we haven't seen this situation that

639
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 5: often in football.

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Speaker 2: I would let him play only home games if he

641
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: wanted to, I would just say, look, I got to

642
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: protect you against yourself because the competitor in you is

643
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: going to want to be out there. I want you

644
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 2: available in January and February. That's the goal, you know.

645
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 2: I would treat him the way the Sixers are going

646
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: to do Joe Ellenbiid, like, we're going to have you there,

647
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: but we want to make sure you're available for the playoffs.

648
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Speaker 2: I was reading some of the comments you had to

649
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: say about the Browns quarterbacking situation. Sounds like you've already

650
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: made up your mind. Camp just opened.

651
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 5: Well, I haven't made up my mind, but I will

652
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Speaker 5: say I think there's a really good chance that both

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Speaker 5: the Shawn Watson and Shador Sanders start games this year.

654
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Speaker 5: So unless one of them clearly outperforms the other in

655
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Speaker 5: training camp and preseason to the point where it's so

656
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 5: obvious you have to go with that guy, it doesn't

657
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 5: really make sense to start with Shador and then go

658
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Speaker 5: to DeShawn. Yeah right, I mean, let's think of this logically.

659
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Speaker 5: To Shan, Watson's had a lot of opportunities. It's the

660
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 5: last year of his contract, he's got a new coach.

661
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 5: Why not? I mean, you've already paid him this much money.

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Speaker 5: Why not put him out there week one, give them

663
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Speaker 5: a month maybe, and see if he still has something

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Speaker 5: or there's something there. But if and when you decide

665
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Speaker 5: that there isn't anything there, you really want to give

666
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Speaker 5: Shador Sanders as large of a sample size as possible

667
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Speaker 5: because you want to see the progression. You know, if

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Speaker 5: it's twelve games, if it's thirteen games, does he keep

669
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Speaker 5: getting better? Does he get better enough that you don't

670
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 5: feel like you need to be in the quarterback market

671
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 5: in the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft. That really, on

672
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 5: some level is what this season's about. I think the

673
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 5: Browns are pretty realistic when you think about some of

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Speaker 5: the trades they've made, the amount of young players they've

675
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 5: drafted the last two years. The Browns know they're not

676
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 5: going to the super Bowl. What this year is about

677
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 5: is continue to develop the young guys and figure out

678
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Speaker 5: the quarterback position, hopefully once and for all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that they're a lot closer than people

680
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: give them credit for because it's the Cleveland Browns, but

681
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: they do have talent.

682
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Speaker 3: You give up Miles Garrett.

683
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Speaker 2: I thought they should have traded him the year before,

684
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Speaker 2: but you know, they got a good, good player in return,

685
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Speaker 2: and they got some draft picks as well. They just

686
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: got to find that quarterback, and I just don't know

687
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Speaker 2: if they have that quarterback on their roster.

688
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Speaker 5: I agree with everything you just said. I will say

689
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 5: I thought it was a phenomenal trade. Phenomenal for the

690
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 5: Browns because Jared Verse is a top ten edge rusher

691
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 5: in the NFL. He's on his rookie contract year three,

692
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 5: so you have him for two more years on the

693
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 5: cheap they can extend him, and so he's not quite

694
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 5: what Miles Garrett is, but he's a lot younger and

695
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 5: a decent amount cheaper, especially for these next three years.

696
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 5: Plus you got the draft choices. They had a phenomenal

697
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 5: draft last year. If they nailed it again this year,

698
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Speaker 5: I really do believe that's the core of what will

699
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 5: be the next playoff team in Cleveland, provided either Shador

700
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 5: shows he's the guy or they get the right guy

701
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Speaker 5: in next year's draft.

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Speaker 2: If you're Arizona, you're over under win total was three

703
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: and a half. The last time we've had a team

704
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: go into his season. You have to go back to

705
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: the expansion years. Nineteen ninety six. I believe where the

706
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: expansion team's coming in was at Jacksonville and Carolina. They

707
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: were over under was three wins. This is historical. If

708
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Speaker 2: you're Arizona, are you trying to win this year? Knowing

709
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: if you have the number one pick? There's a lot

710
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks starting with Arch Manning.

711
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Speaker 5: Well, so where this is going to really get interesting

712
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 5: is later in the season. I mean, you're gonna have

713
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Speaker 5: me on Dan hopefully and we'll have this conversation because

714
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 5: there are people out there that think if the season

715
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Speaker 5: goes as expected for teams like the Arizona Cardinals, the

716
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Speaker 5: Miami Dolphins, maybe the Cleveland Browns, you know, perhaps the

717
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 5: New York Jets, all teams that you know are not

718
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 5: expected to win a lot of games this year, none

719
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 5: of whom have long term solidified quarterbacks. It could be

720
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Speaker 5: interesting to see what they do from a personnel standpoint

721
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 5: the last few weeks of the season. If there really

722
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 5: is is you know, a contest if you will, to

723
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Speaker 5: see who ends up getting the number one overall pick.

724
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Speaker 5: I think certainly in September, everyone does wherever they can

725
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 5: to try to win. You know, the Cardinals actually have

726
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 5: a decent amount of talent. I mean, if Marvin Harrison

727
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 5: Junior can figure it out. Michael Wilson was good last year.

728
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 5: Trey McBrien might be the best tight end the game.

729
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 5: They just drafted Jeremiah Love. Jacoby Brissett's a competent quarterback,

730
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 5: so they can win some games. It's more about, in

731
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 5: my mind, what you do later on in the year

732
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 5: when it's clear you're going to have one of those

733
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 5: top five picks. You know, there's a lot more value

734
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 5: in the first pick or the second than there is

735
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Speaker 5: in the third, fourth, or fifth.

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Speaker 2: My daughter's getting married August fifteenth. I don't know if

737
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Speaker 2: you and your wife, if you're doing anything, if you

738
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Speaker 2: want to go to that wedding as well, No, you

739
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: don't have to sign an NDA.

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I would love to hear your speech.

741
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Speaker 5: I would love that. I'll be doing the Eagles Ravens

742
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 5: preseason game. Okay, that's that's my first night, so I

743
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 5: keep but I love this is a this is on air,

744
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 5: so I am invited. So you know what, I'll ask

745
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 5: my wife. Maybe I'll have to send my regrets, but

746
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 5: maybe my wife can just keep the famous person wedding

747
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 5: train going by going to Dan Patrick's daughter's.

748
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: Wedding because Tom Cruise will be there, so you and

749
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: your wife and reunite.

750
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Speaker 5: Is Sam, They're going to be at that one too,

751
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 5: because he was really he did a he did a

752
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 5: really good job. Your guy Sandler did a really good job.

753
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Speaker 2: I he hasn't said anything, but I think he's going

754
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: to be filming Grown Ups three, so he probably is

755
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: going to have to politely decline. I think Will Ferrell

756
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: has talked about doing a drive by and just acting

757
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: like he's in the neighborhood and just walking into the reception.

758
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Speaker 5: Well, can you just start a list of all of

759
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 5: the super famous people that can't come because they're working. Yeah,

760
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 5: one is Adam Sandler, two is Ross Tucker. We'll see

761
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Speaker 5: who else can't make it because we have to be

762
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 5: on TV and we're like a really big deal.

763
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Speaker 2: Somebody else who was at the Taylor's Swift wedding will

764
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: be there. Rich Eisen with his wife will be there.

765
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yep, So they get two big celebrity weddings in

766
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Speaker 3: the same calendar year, back to back months.

767
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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Thank you again. Always great to talk to you and

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Speaker 2: thanks for sharing.

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Speaker 5: Of course.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Dan that's Ross Tucker,