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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Following the live Scott and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 1: It's a Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys Week four, Episode

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Speaker 1: three here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and our various

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Speaker 1: ready for Brown's Week inside the Star in Frisco. Here

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Speaker 1: in the SWBC Mortgage Studios. I'm Kyle Yeomans alongside Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, and Great Isaiah. Stand back, gentlemen. It's

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Speaker 1: been quite the couple of days. There's been some more

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Speaker 1: Twitter drama. We're not gonna get into it. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about the football side of things, previewing the Browns

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Speaker 1: offense and Jarvis Landry, Odell Beckham Junior in this entire

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Speaker 1: Cleveland high powered attack, Nick Chubb going up against this

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Speaker 1: But Rob, I know there's been a couple of additions

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Speaker 1: We don't have an injury report yet. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: don't get to see the injury report. But what have

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Speaker 1: you heard in terms of some of the ins and

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Speaker 1: I think the big one is Tyran Smith and what

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Speaker 1: he's dealing with. So that's the big one to keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on. You mentioned roster moves. The Cowboys made

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Speaker 1: an alteration to their practice squad yesterday on the offensive

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Speaker 1: line with regard to probably Smith and Lyle Collins still

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Speaker 1: dealing with an injury. On ir Jordan Mills, which a

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Speaker 1: league for six seven years, has eighty four career starts

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Speaker 1: at tackle, so some more insurance there. And they had

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Speaker 1: an open spot because Rondell Carter, highly touted undrafted hookie

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Speaker 1: the Colts active roster, So trying to beef up that

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Speaker 1: old line just in case. I mean, it doesn't sound

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Speaker 1: it sounds not great about Lyle Collins. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure what his status is going to be going forward. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of uncertainty around Lyle Collins yesterday,

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Speaker 1: both Stephen Jones and Mike McCarthy on Monday saying that

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Speaker 1: training staff doesn't know. It's really kind of a curious

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Speaker 1: of the additions that the Cowboys are going to have

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Speaker 1: I think just the experience alone, Kyle gives me a

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Speaker 1: So I like the move. I hate that we lost

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Speaker 1: that's just the way it is with all thirty two teams.

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Speaker 1: It's all better for the team. You know. I knew

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Speaker 1: that movie Draft Day with Kevin Costner. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 1: and I could and I can hear you bawl in

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Speaker 1: So the other homecoming, of course, Myles Garrett, a product

429
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Speaker 1: of Arlington Martin High School who was so rich in

430
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: tradition in terms of the high school level around these

431
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: areas and Texas and him, I'll throw that in there

432
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: for you, Rob if you would like, I'll throw the

433
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: Aggie statue. I got you. But but yeah, he was

434
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 1: a five star recruit. I looked it up yesterday. He

435
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: had thirty nine tackles for loss and somewhere close to

436
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: twenty seven sacks as a senior in high school. And

437
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: that's just ridiculous to me. That's unbelievable. The fact that

438
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: you can put that, Yeah, that's about it. I mean,

439
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 1: he was the number two recruit in the country behind

440
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette coming out of high school whenever he committed

441
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: an M. But talking about Baker Mayfield and I mentioned

442
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: these wide receivers he's got, he's got some targets to

443
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: throw the football too. Nonetheless, whenever it comes to Jarvis

444
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: Landry and Odell Beckham Junior, finally those two looks like

445
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: starting Ketchester stride a little bit. I know, Jarvis Landry's

446
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 1: kind of been dealing with a little bit of an

447
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: ailing injury and a nagging injury on his side of things.

448
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: But Odell Beckham Junior has been playing well. Isaiah, Whenever

449
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: you look at these receivers, what is it that they

450
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: bring to the table that makes them stand out as

451
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: opposed to what the Cowboys have already seen on the schedule. Um,

452
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: I guess this is a little bit of good in

453
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: mad What the Cowboys have seen over these first three

454
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: weeks is they've seen some very prominent receivers that are

455
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: testing their unexperienced dbs um down the field. Right. They

456
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: have literally people have been blowing by our our secondary. Unfortunately,

457
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: I don't foresee that with this particular group. Even though

458
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: Landry and especially o'delle are well respected for their speed,

459
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: their vertical their vertical threat, they haven't had that many

460
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 1: big plays, right, So as I look at it, you

461
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: know Landry, Landry's long of the of the year, longest

462
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: play of the year is twenty one yards and o'dale

463
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: as long as it's forty three yards. You know O'Dell

464
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: is only he's only caught fifty percent of his targets. Meanwhile,

465
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: Landry has caught twelve but a thirteenth that's come his way.

466
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Speaker 1: So as you start looking at this, you know, they're

467
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: becoming more possession receivers, right, They're becoming more possession receivers,

468
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: and that might be more of a threat to Dallas

469
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: than even some of these deeper, really deeper routes that

470
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: we've been facing. I think so because because they're completing

471
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 1: amount of higher percentage, right, they're completing about a higher percentage,

472
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: And you don't when you're running the balls as efficiently

473
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: as you are right now, you don't have to take

474
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: those deep shots because you don't have to have those

475
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: big plays. Right, It's all about moving the sticks and

476
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: the way that Cleveland wins ball games right now? Is

477
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: Cleveland plays keepaway? Right, they played keep away. They're not

478
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: asking eighty five passes through three games. It's not a

479
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: lot of passes. Yeah right, it's not a lot of

480
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: passes at all. We almost hit that last week alone, right,

481
00:25:54,560 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: So right now, you know it's about them in game

482
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: management and putting themselves in a situation. So these receivers

483
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: are possession receivers in my eyes right now, regardless of

484
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: all the one hand catches that we've seen O'Dell made

485
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: and all the stuff that all dancing he does. Yeah,

486
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: these guys are possession receivers. And and we're gonna have

487
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: to see if we can come up there and getting

488
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: these guys's face. And not only one, our secondary is

489
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: gonna have to be able to make tackles, right, They're

490
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: gonna to make some tackles on these running backs. And two,

491
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to be patient and keep everything in

492
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: front of them. So I like that you said that, Isaiah,

493
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: that that Odell Beckham is a possession receiver. I don't

494
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: think anyone has ever called ov J a possession receiver

495
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: because you know, he has that big playability. But I

496
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: think that that goes into how they are curing Baker

497
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: Mayfield just by those short throws. But I like I

498
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: like that though. I like that for our defense. I

499
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: think that digs his strength is the ability to flip

500
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: his hips and close on the ball and so not

501
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: getting letting people get behind them. I mean, we've seen

502
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: those highlights over and over with people running by our

503
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: safeties and our cornerbacks. But even when you go back

504
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: to last week in the Seattle game, man, they were

505
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: doing what they were doing to our defense with two

506
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: receivers and so look, we've all of those mistakes, and

507
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: the guys that we have on the roster in the secondary,

508
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 1: I believe they're capable this week of keeping guys in

509
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: front of them, and especially if these are gonna be

510
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: shorter routes. But man, the worry for me is at

511
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: the tight end position because I feel that Austin Hooper

512
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: against Jalen Smith again, he has his work cutout for him.

513
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: But guys, I feel like for Jalen Smith, this is

514
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: a point where he can show what all of his

515
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: strengths are, especially with these guys playing the twenty two personnel,

516
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: having a fullback being able to take on those ISOs

517
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: and I like Jaylen Smith and Thomas in those situations.

518
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: But you're right, you know both of these guys. Landry,

519
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: he's caught twelve of the thirteen targets. That means he's

520
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: pretty much money anytime you throw it to number eighty.

521
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: But the guys that we have, especially if we're Jordan

522
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: le Us and Trey Von Diggs, I think that this

523
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: is a favorable matchup for them, especially in the short

524
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: possession receiver part of it. Where I worry about the

525
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys defense is the big plays, the long developing plays.

526
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,479
Speaker 1: That's where we've been getting dash. So let me let

527
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: me ask you can ask a question off of that car. Yeah,

528
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: with knowing that how these guys running the ball, right,

529
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: Hack and Robert especially knowing how these guys run the ball,

530
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: and knowing that Jalen Smith is aggressive and he knows

531
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: that he's got to play downhill, which works to his advantage.

532
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: He's a downhill player, right, So he's gonna have his

533
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: eyes in the backfield. Last week. If last week wasn't

534
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: proved that these safeties have their eyes in the backfield,

535
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, right, Xavier Woods, you

536
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna freaking come up there and tackle

537
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: somebody from twenty five yards deep. That's how much he

538
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: was locked in on the backfield, right. So if these

539
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: guys have a tendency to do that against that running

540
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: in it without facing a predominantly running team, how much

541
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: more so are they susceptible to those big plays that

542
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: you're alluding to again agains a team like this, Well,

543
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: I think I think they are until they show that

544
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: they're not, you know, and and just I'm with you

545
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: guys and just watching them. They are more of a

546
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: intermediate to short passing game. And I wonder if that's

547
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, like, like Heck said, just trying to help

548
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: Baker out, because I think he just snapped an interception

549
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: streak of like eight games going back to last year,

550
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: and he had one that O'Dell went in and knocked

551
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: down that saved one the other last week. Ye, so

552
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: you know they're they're trying to get the ball out quickly,

553
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: trying to help him out. And it's not the same

554
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: stylistically as the rams um, but they're trying, you know,

555
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: use that run game to get into second and short,

556
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: third and short and then where you're not having to

557
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: take chances down the field with the ball. But based

558
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,239
Speaker 1: on what you saw on film from the Cowboys last year,

559
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: when you have receivers of that caliber, I and Baker's

560
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: got the arm to do it. I would be surprised

561
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: if they didn't test Dallas at least in a couple

562
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 1: of situations, maybe early, to see how they handled community

563
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: back there. That's that's the biggest thing. That's that's what

564
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: caused a lot of those problems, at least in the

565
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: first half. Yeah, absolutely, Rob and Isaia to your question,

566
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna test us. Every team is gonna test us

567
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: until we stop it. But that's just not yeah, and

568
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: that's just not who we are, who they are right now.

569
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: But at some point they're going to put the play

570
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: action on display and try and bomb us until they're

571
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: gonna play the percentages to see if we can stop it.

572
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: So I expect them to do that. And guys, yesterday

573
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: I was talking to hopeful first ballot Hall of Famer

574
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, offensive lineman for the Cleveland Browns, and he

575
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: talked a lot about that the Cowboys hadn't been able

576
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: to They're susceptible on the play action pass and that's

577
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: a strong suit for the Cleveland Browns. So I look

578
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: for them to bomb us and do those kinds of

579
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: things against us until we're able to stop it. Just

580
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: got to show we can now the big thing too,

581
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: that's help. I'm go ahead, Kyle. Sorry, Well, just the

582
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: other thing that's helping their offense right now is their

583
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: defense and the fact that they're forcing so many takeaways.

584
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they put up thirty plus points the last

585
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: two games, but they're starting drives deep into opposing territory.

586
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: I think they had four drives against Washington that started

587
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: at the forty yard liner inside. So when that happens,

588
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: you're able to really dictate what you want to do offensively,

589
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 1: and that really helps your quarterback. So, I mean, I

590
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: know we're talking about the Cowboys defense, but DA's got

591
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: to take care of the ball. The offense has to

592
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: take care of the ball, and it would probably help

593
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: them if he's not throwing fifty seven times a game

594
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 1: and they're able to have some balance where he's not

595
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: dropping back so much. Well and going off of that,

596
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: whenever you talk about combining what Cleveland has done from

597
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: a defensive standpoint, in the five turnovers that they forced

598
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: against Washington and the fact that the Cowboys have started

599
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: six drives defensively in their own territory based off of

600
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: mistakes early in the games versus Atlanta and versus Seattle.

601
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: You can't have those two things combine. You can't spot

602
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: any yardage, spot any points to this offense because, like

603
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: you said, if they're able to dictate what they want

604
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: to do in terms of running the football and then

605
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: allowing it to take off the top of the defense

606
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield and these receivers, things are going to

607
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: get really tough really quickly for Mike Nolan. But based

608
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: off of kind of what all three of you guys said,

609
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: the answer to slow down these receivers for the Cowboys

610
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: is allow the secondary to be physical. Am I hearing

611
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: that right? Because right now I think that's really kind

612
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: of the strength Trayvon Diggs. Coming out of Alabama, he

613
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: was known as a press man coverage corner. This is

614
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: a guy who likes to get physical. This is a

615
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: like guy who wants to get up in your face

616
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: and make things tough. At the Linus scrimmage. Can we

617
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,239
Speaker 1: expect to see that not only from Diggs, from the

618
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: rest of the secondary as well. Though, Isaiah, I hope so.

619
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean they definitely they haven't put hands on nobody.

620
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: This is so far. Yeah, God Lee, I mean yeah,

621
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's your if that's what you're doing. Sorry,

622
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: if that's what you don't, didn't do it. I don't

623
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: care that. This is the NFL. Go put hands on somebody,

624
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: slaps somebody in the face, especially when you're playing somebody

625
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: like O'Dell Beckham, who is not emotionally stable, right, he's

626
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: just not the most emotionally intelligent individual in the league.

627
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but but you can frustrate him, right if

628
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: you get your hands on him, He's gonna wind, he's

629
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: gonna bicker, he's gonna try to talk to the referees,

630
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: get him out of his game. Landry's the more mature

631
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: one of the two, right, He's really like the big

632
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: brother of the group, So that one he might be

633
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult to get going. You actually

634
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: might piss him off and it might actually go to

635
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: opposite way for you. But as far as O'Dell put

636
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: hands on him all day long, you guys, remember street Fighter, y'all,

637
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: remember I Honda, y'all get Honda all up in his chest.

638
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: We had a Moses reference yesterday. I have thought about

639
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: street fighters since nineteen ninety two. I love it. Oh

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Speaker 1: had this conversation with one of the all time greats

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Speaker 1: Because my goodness, Alden Smith's been incredible for this Cowboys

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Speaker 1: defensive line. I went back and launched again yesterday, and

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Speaker 1: wanted to see from DeMarcus Lawrence. But at least they're

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Speaker 1: getting in from that side of things. Yeah, he talked

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Speaker 1: even imagine doing pregame warmups right now, let alone play

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Speaker 1: a full game. But he basically talked about Aldon Smith

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Speaker 1: his ability to get to the quarterback, but his strong

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Speaker 1: suit is his run defense. He's one of the best

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Speaker 1: run defenders that we have. But also, guys, when we

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Speaker 1: say this is a good get right game for our defense,

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Speaker 1: our defense, our team in general. Look at the guys

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Speaker 1: if he was not stout in the run. And he's

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Speaker 1: Terry Poe the same, a guy that is known around

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Speaker 1: the league as a run stuffer. These guys get an

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Speaker 1: opportunity versus a Cleveland Brown's offensive line. That man, these

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Speaker 1: guys are really good, and to Isaiah's point, they are

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Speaker 1: on a roll and they're making Nick Chubb look good.

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Speaker 1: But I have to circle the matchup between Alden Smith

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Speaker 1: and the rookie Willis, and I wish I could do that.

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Speaker 1: What's the t and team can run to the board.

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Speaker 1: I'd be pitching told and not need running to the board.

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Speaker 1: Just give you an illustration of it. But I think

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Speaker 1: Aldon Smith is going to be covering him for most

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Speaker 1: of the game. In montest sweat last week for the

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Speaker 1: Washington team really gave him fits. So that's where a

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Speaker 1: lot of our pressure is gonna come from. But I

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Speaker 1: look for our defense. This is a game that these

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Speaker 1: So we're not gonna be getting muddy, but they can

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Speaker 1: get physical with this offensive line. And I want to

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Speaker 1: that our defensive line took to the Cleveland Browns. I

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Speaker 1: love that. I mean, no game is is truly a

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Speaker 1: get right game in the NFL. But if you look

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Speaker 1: at the strengths in terms of that defensive line, it

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Speaker 1: does align with the fact of stopping the run and

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Speaker 1: slowing down guys like Kareem Hunt and Nick Chubb. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be tough because both of them are receiving threats

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Speaker 1: out of the backfield. But Rob, as you look at

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys still get in the backfield and really recavoc

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Speaker 1: on not only the two backs but also Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: to make mistakes. Oh, it's critical every week for sure,

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Speaker 1: and heck hit on it. You know that they want

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Speaker 1: to run the ball. They've got some nasty interior lineman.

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Speaker 1: Teller's a guy they run behind. I believe he's the

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Speaker 1: hands early though, so it might be more difficult than

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Speaker 1: than what we saw in the Seattle game with Russ

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Speaker 1: who likes to hold it, likes to buy time. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's got to be more than just Alden Smith. And

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Speaker 1: like you guys said, he's been he's two eighty five,

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't look it, but he plays like it

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Speaker 1: because he's so powerful the way he can drive guys back,

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Speaker 1: in addition to be able to bend around the edge.

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Speaker 1: And uh, like Heckma said, Willis had a couple of

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Speaker 1: that is a matchup to watch. And I just wonder,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, can they get DeMarcus into more

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Speaker 1: of a place where he can have more than thirty

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Speaker 1: snaps because they need more from him. You know, everybody's

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Speaker 1: talking about its production, and yes, they need more production

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Speaker 1: from he's got a They need him on the field

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Speaker 1: more than half the game. So that's that's a big

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Speaker 1: one too, isah. I just I mean, I look at

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Speaker 1: this as an opportunity um. If as a as an athlete,

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Speaker 1: as a competitor, you know, if somebody's telling you you're

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Speaker 1: know you're really kind of second in this area, they're

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Speaker 1: calling you out right there, they're calling they're pulling your

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Speaker 1: man card, right They just pulling your man card like

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Speaker 1: this and just holding it in front of you. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's what's being said and done to the

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Speaker 1: because if I'm if I'm if I'm correct, I believe

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Speaker 1: we're giving up around five yards per carry over these

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Speaker 1: three games. You're already first three games, we're giving up

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Speaker 1: around five yards per carry. And this team is coming

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Speaker 1: in Kareem Humps averaging five point two per carry, Nique

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Speaker 1: Shup's averaging five point seven per carry. So, um, we

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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to go out there improve everybody wrong

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, we have fixed this defensive line problem.

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Speaker 1: We do have some dogs up here, and we're not

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Speaker 1: going to go out here and get pancaked, as Heck

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Speaker 1: become an international house of pancakes. You know, that's a

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Speaker 1: little bit. We have to make sure that you know

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Speaker 1: that these guys show up there. There's pride that comes

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Speaker 1: with playing this game. There's pribade with being a player,

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Speaker 1: and you got to refuse to not get done in

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Speaker 1: and not get punked when you when you step out

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Speaker 1: there and played against other grown men. Cowboys defense giving

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Speaker 1: up one hundred and twenty seven yards on average per

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Speaker 1: game on the ground, and then most of that really

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Speaker 1: came from that first game against the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, they've kind of at least slowed down

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Speaker 1: Chris Carson for the Seattle side and then Todd Gurley

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Speaker 1: for Atlanta. But it'll be an interesting matchup. Those are

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Speaker 1: get past this revamped offensive line from the Cleveland perspective.

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Speaker 1: But we'll continue previewing this matchup. We'll flip things around tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: How can Miles Carrott be stopped by this offensive line

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Speaker 1: and what specific challenges does the defensive line from Cleveland

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Speaker 1: if Dak Prescott can continue putting up big numbers but

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. Here for Talking Cowboys, thanks for

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