WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: What's the Deal? 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:06.840 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:19.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:22.720 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:27.080 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:32.440 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:38.760 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:42.760 It is Wednesday, March fourth, twenty twenty, Season fifteen, episode 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.680 number one hundred and seventeen. Welcome to another edition of 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.280 The Break. We are live from s WBC Mortgage Studios 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.360 at the start, and we got a lot of things 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.080 we're gonna get into today. We're gonna talk a lot 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.640 about Combine. Last week. All three of my co hosts 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.319 were there, and we'll be talking some about the time 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.320 they spent with Jerry, some of the time they spent 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.920 an indie there with Mike McCartney, and then some general 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.240 observations about the combine, different players that are there, just 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:08.320 different things they saw. So we're gonna catch you guys 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:10.600 up on all those things. How does everybody feel today? 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.360 I feel wonderful. Derek. It's nice to see you. It's 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:15.080 nice to talk to you and do the show with 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.200 you and just thrilled to be here. I know you 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.600 guys have been been doing things like making big moves. 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:22.240 I've been back here at the office the whole time, 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.360 and so I've missed you guys, but I'm glad to 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:26.399 have you back on the air, and I want to 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:31.600 jump right in. Let's get started. I've got seven different topics. Actually, Nick, 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.840 you wrote an article coming out of the combine that 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:38.240 listed ten things that came from Jerry's talk that you 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:42.280 thought were worth mentioning great observations. I took seven of 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.520 those things and throw them out here, and I'm just 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.840 gonna throw out the observation, and then I want you 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:48.840 guys to just kind of jump in and talk about it, 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:50.400 because I thought that a lot of the things that 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.840 Jerry talked about created some interesting discussion points. So let's 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:57.280 start first with let's talk on the CBA. Jerry basically 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:00.800 said he voted for the CBA, and in voting for 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:04.880 the CBA, he understood that the benefits were more about 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.480 the NFL, the long term interest of the NFL, and 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:12.040 we're not necessarily about the short term interest of the Cowboys. 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.320 Explain that that statement, and let's talk a little bit 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:22.160 about him. Well, I'd rather be careful with that. I 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.040 think that there's a lot of things going on there. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:26.920 I mean, Jerry got put into the Hall of Fame, 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:31.440 so you know, he's he's a patriot, you know. I mean, 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.919 he's big for the league, and this is a league deal. 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:36.720 It's not just for the Cowboys. He's trying to let 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.160 everybody know that this is big for the NFL. This 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.680 is very important for all the players, not just the Cowboys. 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.919 There's parts that don't really work for the Cowboys because 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.440 of the transition. Tag will be gone and he can't 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.880 get Amari Cooper and dak to do that. But I 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.720 also think it's very important for Jerry to establish that 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.160 he is when he's in there voting, he's voting for 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.040 the NFL, not just for the Cowboys. I think it's 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:00.840 a it's a tough bat once there. I think I 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.040 think he was trying to send a message there. Yeah, 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.120 I think he was trying to It was a it 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.120 was a convincing sales pitch and that I mean that 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.560 doesn't mean it wasn't true. But you know, everybody who 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.239 follows the NFL on any kind of close level knows 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.520 that Jerry is a very powerful and meaningful member of 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.280 the community, and you know, when he endorses the CBA, 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.120 it's kind of like, oh okay, like the most powerful 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.320 owner in the league wants the CBA to go through. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.400 What else is new? And I think part of that 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:31.320 was he's sitting there saying, look, this isn't this isn't 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.000 just about what favors me like this, this deal is 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.560 going to hurt us on some points as well. I 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.040 still think it's in the best interest in the league 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:40.839 as a whole, and I think he wanted to get 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.880 that message across. It's like, I'm not voting completely in 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:48.280 my own self interest. This deal will grow the money 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.400 available to the league and to the players for that matter. 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.760 He made a huge point. I actually thought it was 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.440 it was really telling. He basically had a script. He 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.920 had a sheet of paper with the salaries of his 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.840 players and not you know, not the DeMarcus Lawrences of 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.920 the world, but the guys on their rookie deals. He's saying, 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.880 under this CBA, Layton vander esh would be making this 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.400 much more money in year three of his deal than 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.320 he is right now. And he went down the line 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.200 of this guy would be doing this. This guy would 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:18.719 be doing this, and I think he's trying to sell 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.039 people on the idea that this isn't just good for 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.640 the league, it's good for the everyman player, and it's 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.920 not just good for me Jerry Jones, and I mean 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.320 I think, you know, we get on the bus with 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.400 him every year at the combine and he talks for 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.680 a while. He was asked one question about the CBA, 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.720 and he talked for about thirty five minutes uninterrupted. So 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:39.640 he had a lot of stuff he wanted to say 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:43.920 about it, for sure. Sure, And also the answers were 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.840 kind of scripted because he had some notes, which is 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.840 I think maybe unusual for the bus. Very the questions 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.240 were scripted as well, so there were some there were 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.280 some questions that were asked to be asked. I think 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.560 he al saw that morbid lying too. I was saying like, 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:04.600 this is probably my last contract, which could be right, 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.400 or it was just something that it was kind of 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.960 interesting to hear. It's a little dark. It makes it 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.160 awkward for me when I hear, especially when I hear 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.880 a person referring to themselves in that way, like it 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.280 does seem a little bit off, but a CBA last 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.320 ten years, So I get it's a long time for 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.680 him to be in the room really being negotiating. He 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:26.839 let Steven do all that. Yeah, he's hanging out, but 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:28.600 as we all know, like if you've spent any time 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.560 around Jerry, it's hard to think of a day when 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.040 he won't be in the room. Like he's just as 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:35.760 as old as he is. And I don't mean that 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:37.920 in a bad way. I'm just saying for his age, 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.600 like he's still very sharp man, still very much involved 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.560 in a lot of things. It's hard to imagine that 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.240 coming to an end, you know what I'm saying. That 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.240 just seems weird, seem sure, But I do want to 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.760 say this, just looking at all of this, I think 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.040 that's the interesting part for me about the whole CBA 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.640 is we've seen a lot of different um big players 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.160 I'm talking about the faces of the league come out 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.760 and say things that that kind of basically pointed to 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.599 the fact that they didn't necessarily believe this was the 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.679 best deal for the league. But when you start thinking 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.200 about all those other players, and I think that's kind 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:12.800 of the point of this CBA. Maybe the point that 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.800 Jerry was trying to make is this deal is not 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.240 so much about those players as much as it is 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.200 those players that have that average three to five year 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.200 career and then making a lot more money over the 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.840 course of their career. It's I mean, I was gonna 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.320 say it's no different than politics. It is different than that, 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.599 But I mean, you know, when when you have different 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:35.120 administrations come in some more you know, bigger for a 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.320 middle class than it is for higher class. That's kind 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:41.400 of what this seems to be. Is this the core players, 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.440 and a lot of those people are getting votes as well. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.440 So it's really interesting to see who your player rep is. 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.200 If Russell Wilson and J. J. Watt are your player rep, 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.920 then that's one thing. But if Nate Soldiers your player 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:55.760 rep and he kind of understands what it's good for, 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.120 I think I think that's what's kind of the different 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.520 dynamic here. I would hope, and I agree with you, 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.920 but I would hope. You know, even I don't even 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.160 is Russell Wilson their player up and see, but even 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.200 I would hope he's talking to the guys in his 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.400 locker room like you're not just voting for you, You're 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.680 voting for the other fifty guys that are there. You are, 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:13.680 But at the same time, we know how this goes, 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.200 and you mentioned politics, it's the same thing from this respect. 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.000 I mean, it's going to still be a situation where 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:22.040 whoever is that rep they're still when they're talking to 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.920 the players in the locker room, they're certainly giving their opinions, 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.200 and so whatever whatever their lean is on this, they're 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.160 probably going to have a little bit, not even a 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.120 little bit, They're probably going to have a bias in 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.600 how they present it to their to their players, and 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.880 they're probably going to tell them the information and highlight 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.640 the information that they think is most important and probably 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.160 skirt over the information they think it's a little less important, 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.800 although they it may be very important to those players. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.920 So either way, the point is they got to a 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:51.400 seventeen fourteen I think was the breakdown. Yes, to know 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.600 it was seventeen thirteen and one and one at yeah, 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.080 And so it's going to the full body, and at 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.080 this point the full body will have an opportunity to 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.559 be able to vote on it, and we'll see what happened. 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.160 They say they'll probably take a couple of weeks, but 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.160 it looks like at least there's going to be a 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.400 vote here in the next couple of weeks, and just 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.280 from my own personal point of view, I hope it 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.400 gets done because I just don't like labor unrest. It 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:17.160 just makes things tough for Byron Jones. So what happens 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:21.440 if very interesting? Right? What happens if this goes past 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.360 March eighteenth and Byron Jones is not with the Cowboys 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.880 on March nineteenth, Well, I'm assuming they make a vote 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.240 really quickly as to replace him. One. I'm pretty I 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.920 guess Crawford. I believe that you have there's like a 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.040 you know, an alternate kind of like hockey has an 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.640 alternate captain if your captain doesn't play right. You see, 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:44.000 that problem is so many guys free agent, like that 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.080 guy might also be a free agent. Who knows. I 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.920 bet you there's a guy under contract who would assume that. 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:54.480 I'm guessing Zach Martin, Travis Frederick, Tyron Crawford. UM, yeah, 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.800 it's it's interesting, man, because and there's there's so many 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.680 levels to it, Like, you know, the owners clearly seem 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.160 like they're appealing to the everyman players. You know, you 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.120 can grow your salary by fifty percent and they're going 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.440 to relax substance abuse testing, and I mean, guys, it 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.160 will be far easier to smoke weed and play in 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.120 the NFL than it would have been under the old deal. 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.440 You're also going to have a seventeen game season. You're 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.520 also you know, from the sounds of it, it it sounds 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:21.960 like the owners are going to have a lot more 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:26.240 power in the holdout arena. Like you know, basically it 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.600 won't be able to happen, which is something that would 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.400 give me pause if I was a bigger name player. 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.160 But I'm curious to see, you know. I thought I 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:36.680 read that they were going to try to vote on 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:38.920 it this week, but it doesn't seem like it's moving 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.920 in that direction right now. But if I'm the Cowboys, 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:43.920 I'm like sitting here like, hey, do I have one 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.439 tag or two? And we get this thing decided right now, 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.640 so I know what I'm working with on March eighteenth. Ye, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.400 all right, let's go out to the next topic. This 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.960 one was I mean, Jerry basically said, I think we 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.640 all know which is Dak's going to be here. It's 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.000 really just a matter of them getting the deal done. 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.240 What are your thoughts on where that all stands and 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.320 after talking to him, do you have any more insight 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.480 as to where you think this is all going or 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.280 what maybe to hold up in the whole situation. I 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.000 think the CBA it might be some of the hold 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:16.080 up there, but I mean it's all the same. It's 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:17.920 just he just says it in a different way. I 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.559 mean sometimes they say, well, he's a franchise quarterback that 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.320 can get the job done, or I mean this time 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.760 he says, he's it's no different than my son, Like 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:30.000 he's my son's not going anywhere, so figure it out. 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.880 That's kind of basically what he said. He called Dak 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.800 like his like his son. I mean, like I've already 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:38.360 referred to you like that. I mean, it just happens 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:42.640 as part of it now. Really, I think the CBA 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.320 is one at this point. I'm not saying, you know, 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.480 they might not be close they you know, it's not 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.320 like they're ready to put the name on the paper, 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.160 But I don't think they want to decide anything until 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.600 they see what they're working with. Again, not only how 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.000 many tags do you have? But if the projections that 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:02.679 we're reading are true, the salary cap could literally balloon. 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.520 Like they're talking about a four hundred million dollars salary 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.720 cap within the next three years? How much it was 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.840 it three or seven? Wait, I mean over the course 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.199 of the deal, it'll get even bigger. But like there 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.000 are some people projecting that the cap could jump by 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.840 as much as like fifty percent in the next three 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.360 or four years, which typically it jumps, you know, ten 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.520 percent per year. You could see some massive jumps. So 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.920 if you're about to sign a quarterback to a huge deal, 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.200 don't you kind of want to have an idea of 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.240 what your salary cap growth will look like over the 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.200 years of the deal, Because I know I would. And 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.840 that's actually an interesting point because I saw this morning 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.880 there was a report coming from I can't remember the 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:42.000 guy's name, was a guy from ESPN, but he staid, 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.760 according to some of his sources in the in Das camp, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.760 they were actually pushing for a much shorter term. A 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.040 three year deal was what he threw out there. And 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:52.400 when you talk about it from the standpoint of what 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.480 you're saying, that would make a ton of sense for 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.640 them to say, hey, hey, let's shorten the term on 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.640 this deal, because we could be looking up four years 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.199 from now, and and because of the salary cap. But 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.960 I could be pushing fifty easy, right, Like that's the 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.520 part that makes us a little difficult. And for the Cowboys, 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.080 they may be looking like, hey, yo, hey, we want stability, 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.480 like it's our quarterback position. We want to be able 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.280 to have a longer term deal. And by the way, 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:16.360 when you're dealing with that much money, we want to 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.760 be able to strapolate that signing bonus over a larger 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:20.760 period of time so it hits lets of our cap. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.640 There's a lot of things. So so really the hold 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.840 up could also be a part of that too, where 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.360 you're talking about, you know, Dak side pushing for shorter 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.400 term cowboys look pushing for a longer term if they're 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:34.000 if they're also looking if guaranteed money is not the 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:37.439 big deal there because and I think it has been. 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.920 Guaranteed money has been has been one of the things 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.520 that has you know, you know, separated all of these contracts. 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.160 But it needs to be average per year if if 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:47.800 they're only going to go for the three year deal. 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.480 But I don't think that's a bad move for the 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:53.360 Cowboys because there's there's some people that wonder if if 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.120 Dak is even is he really the long term future, 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.080 I mean of the team. I mean he's been he's 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.880 been really good at times. But I mean I think 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.120 three year deal might be good for the Cowboys too. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.600 Just like his agent says, well, we want to get 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.880 a part of that fifty million, the Cowboys could say, well, 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.520 we think he's pretty good, but what if he's not. 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.920 You know, I don't think it's a terrible move. I 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.400 don't at all. I mean I love short deals honestly, 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:23.320 Like this whole That's how you know, the Cowboys didn't 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.160 maximize finding Dak as well as they could have because 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.320 they were stuck paying Tony Romo on a six year deal. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.000 They had to pay two years worth of insane cap 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.880 hits that they got no play out of. So the 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.400 short of the deal, I'm like, I love that because 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.559 it's just less of a commitment on your salary cap 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:44.560 three years, one hundred just I would, honestly, I would 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.360 be I would be all in on that. Let me 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.400 ask you this, would you be willing to guarantee all 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:52.120 of that? Yes? For a guy that never gets hurt? 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.400 I'm sure. Knock on wood. I mean, yeah, there's risk 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.280 involved in these types of things, but it is what 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.520 it is. But that's that's you know what, that's that's 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.760 why you that's the guaranteed money that they want, right, 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:04.840 that's the base. I mean, that's kind of the ballpark 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:06.520 of what they're wanting. Right, we just solved this thing 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.160 for them. Somebody run upstairs one on two, send a 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.040 text one two, one out two. You want to go 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.439 to one O two thirty four? Yeah that's thirty four, right. 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:15.960 I can't do math, but yeah, it sounds about right. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.120 One or two divide about three I think is thirty four. 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:23.760 I don't know, but some somewhere in that range on 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.520 a three year deal with most of it, if not all, 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:31.760 of a guarantee. I just up. I it's it really like. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.920 It gives me. It gives me anxiety to think about. 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.280 And obviously I don't have any control over the situation. 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:41.320 But so it's Wednesday. The franchise tag deadline is eight 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:45.920 days away. Um, the league year starts six days after that. 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.320 So the league years two weeks from today might do 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.800 am I right on that. Today's the fourth Yeah, so 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.200 you got two weeks till the new league year. You 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.480 got eight days until you have to use the tag. 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:59.040 You can't use it anymore after next Thursday and the 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.520 CBA is not a proved Dak and amar are sitting there. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.480 You don't know right now if you can tag them 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:08.600 both or just one. It stresses me out just talking. 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.520 What I don't know is what the rules. I've heard 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:15.320 different things. What the rule is if you give Amari 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.760 the transition tag before the CBA has been approved, and 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.360 then what happens to me? You have to take one away, 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.720 as I understand it, if a new CBA is agreed to, 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:30.120 the other tag just disappears, and all of a sudden 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.880 that guy becomes an immediate free agent. I mean, that's 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.120 a problem. If the league year has started, Yeah, that's 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:39.400 a problem. Which that's well, Although now I'm talking out 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.640 of my depth, but I believe if the new league 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.280 year starts before a CBA is approved, then you would 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.160 go through this final year on the old CBA like 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.760 you can't enact a CBA once a new league gear 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.640 has started, right you're sure about that? No, that goes 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.520 back to the problem of how much do you pay 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.640 DA and leave? You know, you don't give him new 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.680 contracts and he just keep the franchise tag, But then 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.200 does he hold out, does he not go to training him? 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.520 What happens there? There's so many reasons why they should 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.960 get Dack done right, they're just they just got to 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.360 do it because of give Amari what he and Amari 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.600 needs the franchise tag. I think for everybody's comfort level 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.960 of who this guy is and what he's done. He 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:22.880 needs the franchise tag because one more year to show 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:28.040 because you know, it's scary because contract years usually get 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.720 give people their best year. And you know, if he's 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.320 got all this money, I don't, I don't know. I mean, 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.560 is he is he gonna be on the field on 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.520 fourth and eight in the biggest game of the season 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.920 because that was a contract year. Yeah, I mean, I'm 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.800 just saying, And I know people are scared in this building. 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.800 They're scared to give him that much money because they 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.640 don't really know what he's thinking. Sometimes. See I don't 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.000 I could I could find The flip side of that, though, 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.440 is because he's clearly not purely motivated by money. Like 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.400 he said it eighty five times in the build up 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.360 to last season. He's like, that'll take care of itself. 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.160 He's like, I'm making more than enough. On the fifth 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.480 year of my deal. Like he said that, how often 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.080 do you hear that from football players? Where he's like, 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.520 they're paying me thirteen million, that's plenty. I'm not worried 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:14.560 about it. Nobody's ever said that. Uh. And and you know, 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:19.280 he had a few bad, really bad moments fourth and 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.000 eight against the Eagles. You know, not to knock the 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.080 guy for being hurt, but the Jets game was bizarre. 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.159 Ye for him to do that stuff during a contract 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.760 at least, I'm just like, you know, like, well, Amari's 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.080 a Mari regardless. You know, he's not putting on a 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:35.040 front because he wants more money. And by the way, 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.400 this these are the kinds of things that people said 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.359 about him in Oakland, Like, these are the kinds of 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.280 things that have haunted him, if you want to call 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.080 it that, since he's been in the NFL. So I 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.240 don't know that that's going to necessarily change. He's not 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.520 going to turn around tomorrow and become des mentality, right, 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.520 that's just not I can't I can't imagine was here 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.600 and helped him. We'll get to that go ahead. I 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.119 can't imagine him becoming a vastly different person because he 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.560 got a second contract. I agree with it, M but 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.920 I do. If I could plan this thing out like perfectly, 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.800 just get a deal done with Dak by next Thursday 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.239 at whatever time, probably three that's usually the deadline, and 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.639 then tag Amary. That shouldn't be hard. We already told 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:16.120 them how to like just it's so simple. They should 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.359 have already gotten three text message from all three of 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.920 you upstairs saying, oh, yeah, the break is it. We 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:22.920 should go ahead and do this deal. Here's the framework, Stephen, 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:27.399 do you go through dolivered? Is that bad? I don't know, 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:32.520 but it was locked. It's it's absolutely fascinating to think 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.120 what happens if something isn't agreed to by Thursday, because 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.639 Dak will be tagged. Ya, we've Jerry Jones. The direct 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.600 quote was he will I will not not have his 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.760 rights for a single minute. And there's no doubt about 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.080 who will be tagged if it comes to it. But 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.240 if you tag Dak and I mean so you could 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.440 tag them both next Thursday. But then if a CBA 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.600 is agreed to, Amari Cooper said it for free agency, 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:59.600 and that's scary, and I'm sure it doesn't. It might 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.520 say this than the rules, can you can you move 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:04.800 one tag to the other. Yeah. See, that's what I 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.120 don't know either. If you should get a deal done 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:11.240 with Dad, I think I don't. Well, but if you 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:14.080 do that, do you risk the possibility of losing him? 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.960