1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: This is the Action Network podcast, but this one is good. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: All right. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 3: Here we go throwing, so. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: I'm sitting up to cash stop. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 3: We'll see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 3: go to win. God, that's incredible. Big bank, small bank. 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: I like to make money. 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 4: All right. This is the ultimate kabary. You want to 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 4: pass it? 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: And we are What's up, everybody, and welcome to the 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: Action Network Podcast. This is one of our most popular 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: podcast episodes of the year, the Action Network's fourth annual 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: Super Bowl Propapalooza. I am your host, Chris Raybon, and 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: I am joined by my guy, Sean Kerner. And for 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: anyone that doesn't know Sean, he's the co host with 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: me over at the Fantasy Flex podcast. He's Action Networks 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: direct of Predictive Analytics and he's been Fantasy pros number 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: one ranked NFL expert three times, one of the sharpest 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: NFL player projectionists in the industry. So Sean, glad for 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: you to join me on here on this other channel. 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 5: Absolutely, And you know the Propablusa episode is always my favorite. 22 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 5: I mean, we have two weeks to analyze one game, 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 5: and this is the only game all season where we 24 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 5: get punter props. 25 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 4: So, you know, just my favorite time y ever can't 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 4: wait to dive in on us. 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: So for everyone out there listening, we will do our 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: normal six pack with our favorite props, and then we're 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 3: going to do a massive best of the rest where 30 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: we just talk about all different kinds of props. We 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: could talk about coin toss as, we can talk about 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: yardage props, attempts. 33 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: You know, special team. Sean mentioned the punters. 34 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: We'll talk national anthem, first half, second half, MVP, first touchdown, 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: all that good stuff on the Action Network Propapalooza. All right, 36 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: let's kick off the super Bowl Propapalooza Sunday six pack. 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: Sean, where are you going with your first selection? 38 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 5: So for my first pick for the Super Bowl propa Palooza, 39 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 5: I am going with Cooper Cup longest reception over twenty 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 5: eight and a half yards. And I was a bit 41 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 5: surprised I was able to find value on a Cooper 42 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 5: Cup over. You figure books are anticipating and getting most 43 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 5: of the handle on Cooper Cups overs. However, there is 44 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 5: you know, quite a bit of value on this prop, 45 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 5: specifically to the over. And you know, I simulate the 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 5: Super Bowl ten thousand times, and I pull my projections 47 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 5: from that and heading into this, I'm actually projecting Cooper 48 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 5: Cup a little bit less than the market in terms 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 5: of receptions. So I'm projecting him for eight point zero 50 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 5: receptions where the market looks like it's around eight point 51 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 5: three eight point fours. So I just want to be 52 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 5: out front, like I'm projecting him a little bit lower, 53 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 5: and I'm still getting his medium. I'm closer to thirty 54 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 5: three and a half here, which is a pretty big 55 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 5: edge in a market like this. So I'm projecting this 56 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 5: to hit, you know, around sixty three percent of the 57 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 5: time at this number. And when it comes to Cooper 58 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 5: Cup specifically, you don't really think of him as a 59 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 5: deep threat necessarily. His A dots lower around the eight 60 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 5: point four range, but he's phenomenal after catch six point 61 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 5: four yards after the catch on average, so he can 62 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 5: rack up the yards after the catch. 63 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: Plus he's going to see a. 64 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 5: Ton of volumes, so he'll likely have around eight chances 65 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 5: to clear this number. So that's why there's a ton 66 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 5: of value on this over and on the season, in 67 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 5: twenty games, he's cleared this in fifteen of them, so 68 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 5: that's a seventy five percent hit rate, and you know 69 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 5: his median's thirty six on the air. So my math 70 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 5: for checks out here. Love the value we're getting here, 71 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 5: and I probably bet this up to thirty and a half. 72 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great value. 73 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: I can't believe he's hit that in fifteen out of 74 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: twenty and they're posting it so low. I mean, this 75 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: guy is just he's going to be open like every play. 76 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: There's nothing Cincinnati's really gonna be able to do out of, 77 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: you know, even dropping eight in the coverage, which is 78 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: what they did against Kansas City Stafford. If he's gonna 79 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: still let it rip down the field, the cup and 80 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: if there were eight men in coverage, the most likely 81 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: person to get open down the field would still be 82 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: Cooper Cup. So I do like that one for my 83 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: first pick and the second overall of the Super Bowl 84 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 3: Propapabooza six pack. I am going with the winner of 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: the coin toss to defer to the second half at 86 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 3: minus five hundred. I don't know what your Cooper Cup 87 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: edge was, but this is a crazy edge because the 88 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: odds imply about an eighty three percent chance of the 89 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: winner of the coin toss deferring well, I went back 90 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: and looked at Cincinnati and the Rams. Cincinnati won the 91 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: toss eleven times, deferred all eleven. The Rams won ten times, 92 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: deferred all ten times, and their opponents all deferred every 93 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 3: time except once. The New York Jets took the opening 94 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 3: kick off against Cincinnati. So out of forty possible chances, 95 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 3: thirty nine ended with deferring. For these two teams, the 96 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: odds are probably only eighty three percent chance. I think 97 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 3: this is closer to a ninety nine point five at 98 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: least percent chance here. So I would hit this while 99 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: you can. And I know a lot of people listening 100 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 3: to the show. I know you're gonna you're gonna parlay. 101 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: I know that's what you're gonna do with these props. 102 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: So, uh, this is a. 103 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: Great parlay bet here, just kind of start you off here, 104 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: pretty much a short thing at minus five hundred, when 105 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 3: I think the odds should be to any juice. To 106 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: put it that way, you should bet this up to 107 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: any juice. So that is my favorite Super Bowl prop, 108 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: this spot. I can't believe they posted it at minus 109 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: five hundred. 110 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 4: I love these props. It doesn't matter what the juice is. 111 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 5: So this is essentially like would you bet that the 112 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 5: sun's gonna rise tomorrow at mines five hundred? 113 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 4: Of course you would. 114 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 5: So I'm convinced I don't mind laying down on you know, 115 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 5: props like us where at the a surefire hit. 116 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: So I think I'm a join you on this one. 117 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is a max bet. 118 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: It's just like if you're if you're you plan to 119 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: put this in a parlay and that is going to 120 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: depend on which other bets are allowed and things like that. 121 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: But just make sure you don't use up for your 122 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: max bet if you're gonna do it that way. But 123 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: like either way, I mean it's worth you know, it's 124 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: where it's getting a couple of hours out of it, 125 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: you know why not? 126 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 127 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Like you said, kind of mix it in with 128 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 5: parlays good way to kind of like bump that up. 129 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 5: So yeah, like definitely use this deer advantage. 130 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: All right, We going with your second and the third 131 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: overall pick. 132 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 5: So for my second pick for the Super Bowl, prop 133 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 5: of Paloza sixth pack is a punter prop and it's 134 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 5: Kevin Huber. He's the punter for the Bengals. For his 135 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 5: longest punt to be over fifty two and a half yards. 136 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 5: So again I crunched numbers on this, I ran my simulations, 137 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 5: and I'm giving a meet in closer to fifty five 138 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 5: and a half on this. So again, this there's quite 139 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 5: a bit of value here. I have him clearing this 140 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 5: sixty two percent of the time, and looking at his 141 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 5: game log this season, the math checks out He's cleared 142 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 5: this number in thirteen of twenty games. That's a sixty 143 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 5: five percent hit rate. And yeah, his medium is closer 144 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 5: to fifty four and a half. And I think that 145 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 5: the fact that this game is being played in so 146 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 5: far we have sort of a domed environment. I don't 147 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 5: think there's any fishy, anything fishy going on here. So 148 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 5: I love taking Huber over fifty two and a half 149 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 5: for his longest punt for the Super Bowl. 150 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 3: This is exactly why we have you on the show. 151 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. 152 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: I didn't even make. 153 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: Any punter projections, or at least not yet. You might 154 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: have inspired me, but no, this is this is great 155 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: and I know you hit. 156 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 2: You hit like a punter prop every single super Bowl. 157 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 5: It's like all you talk about there's usually one that 158 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 5: like there's a pretty big edge. 159 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: Last year. 160 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 5: I even forgot the punter's name, the punter for the Buccaneers. 161 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: I think I had the. 162 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: Underpinion pinion, yeah, and he didn't. 163 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 5: Even come close. So these are fun. This one, how 164 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 5: I think this one is going to be pretty close. 165 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 5: I think he ends with like a fifty five or 166 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 5: fifty six card punt, So every yard in this market matters. 167 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 5: That's why I want to be clear. I'd probably bet 168 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 5: this up to fifty three and a half. I wouldn't 169 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 5: go past that, but anything in the fifty two to 170 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 5: fifty three and a half range there's too much value 171 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 5: on the over. 172 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: You know what else is interesting about this one? And 173 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: you know, I know this. 174 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: Is a prop episode, so we won't go into our 175 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: high level discussion of the game stuck, and I will 176 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: be back to do that at the normal time, but 177 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: I will say this, the Bengals have lost by more 178 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: than three twice a year in Joe Burrow's starts, and 179 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 3: they're four to four and a half point under Dug. 180 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: So you may also get more punts than you usually would, 181 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: which obviously just means more opportunities for you. 182 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 4: Ber Gooit. Wait is that how you pronounced it? Uber? 183 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: How did you pronounce it, Huber, Huber, I mean one 184 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: of those three's got to be right. We'll find out 185 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: when he punts it for fifty five yards on his 186 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: first punt, then we'll find out how you actually pronounced it. 187 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: It reminds me of a man with the family guy 188 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: Stewie thing the while when he's like, what but the 189 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: but yeah, I don't know, Huber whatever. Over fifty two 190 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: and a half is the important information to take. 191 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: Out of that. 192 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: For my second pick in the fourth overall of the 193 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: Super Bowl Propapaluza six pack, I am going with samaj 194 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: p Rn under fifteen and a half rushing and receiving yards. 195 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: And I love this because you get to take advantage 196 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: of recency bias here. So pe Ran so p Ran 197 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 3: not only scored the Bengals first touchdown in the AFC 198 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: Championship game and gave them a pretty big joke, but 199 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: he caught up. It was a forty one yard screen 200 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: pass that looked like it was going to go for 201 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 3: a few yards but not many, and then he just 202 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: broke it loose. And now we're getting fifteen and a half, 203 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 3: where the last five games he was under that number 204 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: in all five his snap rate has actually been ticking down, 205 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: so I have was mian projected at thirteen total yards, 206 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: which means his. 207 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: Median is going to be a little low. But let's 208 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: do the math on this. 209 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: Piran averages about four yards per carry for his career 210 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: and seven yards per cat right, so that means no 211 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: matter how you slice it, he's gonna need three touches 212 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: to get over this, whether it's you know, two catches 213 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: and a carry, two carries and a catch, whatever. You know, 214 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 3: if he gets just three carries, then he would still 215 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: be short. So he needs at least three, maybe even 216 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: four to go over this. Well, he's had two or 217 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: less touch opportunities, so that includes incomplete targets in two 218 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: of the three postseason games. The only game where he 219 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: had you know, three or more touches was that last 220 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: game against the Chiefs. He's only had more than one 221 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: touch once in that last game against the Chiefs in 222 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: the postseason, and yes he got the touchdown, but he 223 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: also ran a bad route in that game as well, 224 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: where they would have had a good play set up 225 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: and he ran like the wrong way and Burrow kind 226 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: of like chewed him out. So this is the super 227 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: I think you see Joe Mixon on the field as 228 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: much as possible, and Chris Evans has actually had just 229 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: as many carries as p Ryan in the postseason, and 230 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: Evans has been explosive on kickoff returns. So it's no 231 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: guarantee that pe Ryan gets even one carry. And after 232 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: last week, I know he got the touchdown, but that's 233 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 3: like a very design play. I think they kind of 234 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: used up to design p Rynd long Green passes in 235 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: the AFC Championship game. So I'm going to bet under 236 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 3: fifteen and a half for p Ryan here, which is 237 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: essentially I'm betting he gets under three touches. 238 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I like this one a lot, and you know 239 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 5: there's a chance he just doesn't see a rush attempt. 240 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 5: The past two games he has zero rush attempts. Chris 241 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 5: Evans actually has one more carry than him in the 242 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 5: playoffs with two, So this is essentially his receiving yard 243 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 5: prop and the market for him is right right around 244 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 5: one and a half catches, which is in line with 245 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 5: my projection. So I mean, I have the median for 246 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 5: this closter to like eight and a half, And when 247 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 5: you're dealing with the yardage, is this low, you know, 248 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 5: getting seven yards of value is massive, and he hasn't 249 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 5: cleared fifteen and a half totally yards since week fifteen, 250 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 5: so it's hard to them. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, aside 251 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 5: from last week, so it's really hard to Yeah, exactly, 252 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 5: recency bias. 253 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 4: You got that one long touchdown. 254 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 5: It's really hard to see them sort of game planning 255 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 5: to get samaj Puran touches. So yeah, I'm with you 256 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 5: on this one. This one has to be over a 257 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 5: sixty percent chance of hitting on the under right, we're 258 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 5: going with your third pick. So for my third pick 259 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 5: for the Super Bowl Prop blues a six pack, I 260 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 5: am going with the Rams calling the first time out 261 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 5: in this game. And you know, typically I ignore these props. 262 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever bet on the coin toss. 263 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 5: I never bet on you know, which coach will throw 264 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 5: the first challenge flag, which coach will call the first 265 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 5: time out. But I think there is some sneaky edge 266 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 5: on the Rams calling the first time out here because 267 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 5: if you look at some research Michael Lopez did, he 268 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 5: didn't end up peace on how coaches use their timeouts, 269 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 5: and Sean McVay by far led all coaches with two 270 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 5: point nine unnecessary timeouts per game, which is a crazy stat. 271 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 5: And if you watch RAMS games, like you can see 272 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 5: it in action, like he does call a ton of 273 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 5: timeouts where he does like the formation or you know, 274 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 5: he loses a challenge. There's all these different reasons why 275 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 5: Sean McVay just blows through timeouts. So you know, usually 276 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 5: the first time out in the game, you know, will 277 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 5: in theory, be an unnecessary timeout. 278 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 4: So I wanted to just test it out. 279 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 5: So I was gonna look at the past couple of games, 280 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 5: like we're the Rams the first team to call timeout. 281 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: Then nine, like each of the past nine games, the 282 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 5: Rams have called the first timeout. So that was enough 283 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 5: proof for me to like just go along with this 284 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 5: theory that Tom McVay just blows through timeouts. So in 285 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 5: a market like this where typically I'm just ignore it, 286 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 5: I think there's too big of an edge here to 287 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 5: just ignore and passed up. So I'm locking in the 288 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 5: Rams to call the first time out. At minus one fifteen, 289 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 5: I would probably set this at like minus one's fifty, 290 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 5: So you know, I'm I'd be willing to bet this 291 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 5: up to like minus one thirty. That's how confident I am. 292 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 5: But I never thought in a million years, i'd be 293 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 5: recommending a punter prop and a first time out prop 294 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 5: on a Super Bowl problem POLSA. 295 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: Really, I think you were like minus two thousand to 296 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: recommend a punter prop. But the timeout that's a little more. 297 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: Those are usually one of those things that you know, 298 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: on a normal type of game, we'd be like, you know, 299 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 3: stay away from this. 300 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: The odds are probably even. 301 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: But I agree with Sean McVay. And the funny thing 302 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: is he's not even a guy who a coach who 303 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 3: has an inordinate amount of challenges, So like like Taylor 304 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: actually has more challenges than McVeigh over the last three years, 305 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: so you know, and I think like six more. 306 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: So this is like a substantial amount. 307 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: So like if McVeigh would challenged more, he'd probably burned 308 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: even more time out. 309 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: He probably lose a good amount. 310 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's pretty amazing the last nine games, So 311 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: that that is an amazing stat. 312 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: All right. 313 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: For my my third and final and the sixth overall 314 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: pick of the Super Bowl Propapalooza six pack, I'm going 315 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: with Matt Gay over one and a half field goals. 316 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: And now we have a punter prop, a timeout prop, 317 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: why not get a kicker prop in here. So the Bengals, 318 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: you look at them, They're not a team that gives 319 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: up a ton of multi field goal games. It's happened 320 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: about forty percent of the time this year. But look 321 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: at Matt Gay, and he's gotten at least two field 322 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: goals in fifteen of twenty games. So even if you 323 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: take those two seventy five percent for Gay, forty percent 324 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: for the Bengals, and you average that together, that's about 325 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: fifty seven and a half percent, which is about the 326 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: true odds are about minus one thirty five. And you're 327 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: getting this, uh in the you're so I'm showing about, 328 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: you know, about ten points of juice value here on 329 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: Gay here to go over multiple field goals. And I 330 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: think also when you kind of do these projections, you 331 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: would look at the kicker more than the defense. So 332 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: the true odds are probably over sixty percent when you 333 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: really calculate it. So, yeah, probably closer to one fifty. 334 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: And you can get this four, So you can get 335 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: this for minus one twenty five, and I would put 336 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: the true odds closer to minus one fifty, about a 337 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 3: sixty percent chance if not more. Again, he's done in 338 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: seventy five percent of his games and the Rams are favored, 339 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: you know, so that also gives them a more positive 340 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: game script where they'd be tacking onto their lead. So 341 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: really like this prop kind of in that similar boat 342 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: to Cup where it's like, you know, he's gotten over 343 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: this number in seventy five percent of the games and 344 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: we're getting pretty good juice on it. 345 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 346 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 5: Absolutely, And you know, when it comes to these figal props, 347 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 5: I would like to take the over for like an 348 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 5: accurate kicker, and Mackay happens to be one of the 349 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 5: most accurate kickers in my model. I'm projecting around eighty 350 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 5: eight percent to go rate because if you look at his 351 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 5: profile this year, you know, he's made ninety four percent 352 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 5: of field goals and that's with attempting five field goals 353 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 5: of fifty yards of more so, he's an extremely accurate kicker. 354 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 5: This game is going to be a home game for him, 355 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 5: it's indoors essentially, so yeah, I think if he gets 356 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 5: through more fieldal attempts, he'll probably make both. So this 357 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 5: is a rare Again, this is a rare kicking proper. 358 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 5: I'd probably take the over as well. 359 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and interesting that you mentioned it's indoors in LA. 360 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: In LA this season, he's made multiple field goals in 361 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 3: nine of ten games in LA, so not because it's 362 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: home field advantage, but it is indoors. Four of his 363 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: five games where he's made only one or no field 364 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: goals have come on the road, and three of those 365 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 3: four outdoors, So indoors, Matt Gay is money. 366 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: To make two or more field goals. 367 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 4: All right. 368 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: So that's going to wrap up our Super Bowl fifty 369 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: six propapalooza Sunday six pack. Sean is going with Cooper 370 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: Cup longest reception over twenty seven and a half yards, 371 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: Kevin Youber longest punt over fifty two and a half yards, 372 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: and Rams first time out at minus one fifteen. I'm 373 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: going winner of the coin toss to defer at minus 374 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 3: five hundred, samajp RN under fifteen and a half combined 375 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: rushing and receiving yards, and Matt Gay over one and 376 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: a half field goals. All right, Sean, Now now you 377 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 3: can really get into it. We're going to go all 378 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 3: over the place here and try to touch on just 379 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 3: all of the props in what is usually called our 380 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: best of the rest segment. But there's no real rest, 381 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: cause every prop is equal as long as you can 382 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 3: profit off of it. So let's start out here with 383 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: the national anthem. Do you tend to have any type 384 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 3: of strategy when you're betting the national anthem, which is 385 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 3: obviously the most important prop of the game. 386 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, My strategy is listening to you talk about it. 387 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 5: This is definitely your especially all handle the punting props. 388 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 5: You're usually good handling the national anthem. So I'm looking 389 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 5: forward to hearing your pick here. 390 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so thank you, thank you. We got Mickey Geiten 391 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 3: singing this thing. Not a ton of information on her specifically, 392 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 3: but some really good information on how to approach this 393 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: based on what's happened in the past. So the over 394 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 3: under I'm seeing out there in the market right now 395 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 3: is about ninety five seconds, which is about a minute 396 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: thirty five the last super Bowl, last fifteen super Bowl, 397 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: it's been about even eight overs, six unders, one push. 398 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: But the average length for the last fifteen super Bowls 399 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: is two minutes in one second or one hundred and 400 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 3: twenty one seconds, And the median is right there as well, 401 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: at a minute fifty nine seconds or one hundred nineteen 402 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 3: So that means that This is about a two minute 403 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 3: anthem on average at these Super Bowls, and right now 404 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: the totals only had a minute thirty five, So I 405 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 3: think you have to go over here. Seven of the 406 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 3: last nine have been over two minutes, so I mean 407 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: this is really just a smash over for me. I 408 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if the market kind of bumps it 409 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: up now again. 410 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: You know, you know has Geien, How do we have 411 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: a lot. 412 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 3: Of information on her specifically, No, but most performers have 413 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: tended to kind of drag it out of lately. And 414 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: you know last year we saw it was two minutes 415 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: and seventeen seconds for Jasmine Sullivan and Eric Church. 416 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: Demi Evado came in at a minute forty nine. 417 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 3: A couple of years ago, Gladys Knight was at two 418 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 3: minutes one second, Pink was at one point fifty two. 419 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: So those are all over this number, and then the 420 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: three before that and the five before that all over 421 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 3: two minutes. Luke Bryant two four, Lady Got Got twenty two, a, 422 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: Dita Menzel two four, Rene Fleming two three, Alisha Keys 423 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 3: two thirty six. So this is one where I would 424 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: actually bet this up to you know, maybe one fifteen 425 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: or so. I think the number is going to go 426 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 3: up as as we get closer and as people start 427 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 3: to talk about this and we start writing articles about it. 428 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: So this is when I would try to lock in 429 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: as soon as possible, because anything under two minutes you're 430 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: getting good value according to the according to the past data. 431 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 5: Now, is is this the opening number or has it? 432 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 5: Has it gone up since it opened? 433 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: You know that, I don't know. 434 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 3: This is my first time looking at it, okay, because I. 435 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 5: Feel like like typically the national anthem, I feel like 436 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 5: the steam moves are usually the right side, so if 437 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 5: it starts like getting up, it always seems like that's 438 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 5: that's the tide to be on. 439 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 4: No, I don't know if you have that kind of data. 440 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 3: No, No, that I don't have, but I will say this, 441 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: I mean there's almost usually like for something like a prop, 442 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: there's almost never steam moves on the under regard. Let's 443 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 3: like like you know what I mean, Like it's like 444 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: people wouldn't be betting under. 445 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: For a prop like this, and I don't think the 446 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 2: sharps would. 447 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 3: Really be the quote unquote sharp you know what I mean, 448 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 3: We're really were touching it. 449 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: So the bottom line is it should be around two minutes. 450 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: Like that's the best, that's we can feel pretty confident. 451 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: It should be around two minutes. If you can get 452 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 3: anything under that, go for it. Only once you start 453 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: getting over two minutes should you start thinking about and 454 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: under if you're going to bet. 455 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: This, but you think there's like a twenty seconds. 456 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 5: Edge here, yeah, yeah, wow, that's that's pretty big. All 457 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 5: I'll have to join you on this one as well. 458 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to something that actually does involve 459 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: the game here. 460 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: That's the MVP. 461 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: And this is always a fun one. As you're listening 462 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 3: to this, we'll probably have an article up where we 463 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: do our Super Bowl Ods draft every year at Action 464 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 3: and these things are actually, you know, valuable exercise. I 465 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: remember a couple of years ago I took Edelman in 466 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: our in one of our draft and I ended up 467 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: betting him and he won it. So these things are 468 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: kind of a great thought exercise to kind of think about. 469 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: Now, so let's talk through this a little bit. 470 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: I'll set you up with some numbers you can kind 471 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: of give you your thoughts on what you're thinking. 472 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 2: But just for some numbers. 473 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 3: Historically, quarterbacks have one fifty five percent of the times. 474 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 3: Running backs and receivers have won twelve and a half 475 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 3: percent of the time. Each defensive players have won eighteen 476 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 3: percent of the time. And Desmond Howard, who's he was 477 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 3: a wide receiver but more like a kick returner, he 478 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: won one as well. But wide receivers have won twenty 479 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 3: four percent of the time over the last seventeen Super 480 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: Bowl so they've won four of the last seventeen, so 481 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: that those are kind of that's kind of the historical data. 482 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 3: With that being said, we have Matthew Stafford the favorite 483 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 3: at minus one fifteen, and then Joe Burrow comes in 484 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: next at plus two twenty five. What stands out to 485 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 3: you on the board for Super Bowl MVP show. 486 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think when looking at these numbers, you 487 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 5: kind of want to look at recent seasons. You know, 488 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 5: you quote the last seventeen years, the receivers have won 489 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 5: it a bit more. I think that makes sense because 490 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 5: the NFL is becoming more past heavy in general. So 491 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 5: I don't think we've seen a running back win it 492 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 5: in the past twenty years or so, so I won't 493 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 5: be attacking any running backs. I think quarterbacks obviously. The 494 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 5: quarterback is you know, the most likely one to win. 495 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 5: But you know, the QBS have won seven of the 496 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 5: past ten Super Bowls. So if you take a look 497 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 5: at Joe Burrow, he's plus two twenty five. I thought 498 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 5: about taking him because I think that's a sneaky way 499 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 5: to sort of bet on the Bengals money line. Instead 500 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 5: of getting him at plus one sixty, you can get 501 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 5: him plus two twenty five. But I just don't think 502 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 5: there's enough value there because you know, like I said, 503 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 5: the QB is only going to win it around seventy 504 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 5: percent of the time. So I think that the way 505 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 5: to kind of attack this is to look at the 506 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 5: wide receivers, and we have some legit wide receivers in 507 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl this year. So the guy that I 508 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 5: think stands out the most to me is probably T 509 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 5: Higgins at fifty to one. You know, on the Fantasy 510 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 5: Flex all season long, I've been the biggest T Higgins 511 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 5: stand So you know, I can't help myself here. 512 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 4: But you know, if the. 513 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 5: Rams were to double team or sell out to try 514 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 5: to stop Jamar Chase, you know T Higgins could benefit 515 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 5: from that, and he has, you know, the potential to 516 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 5: have a big enough game to be a Super Bowl MVP, 517 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 5: So I think at fifty to one on I think 518 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 5: Higgins is probably, you know, the best value when it 519 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 5: comes to guys outside of the QB. 520 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 4: Position in my opinion, how about you? 521 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the T. Higgins call because the Rams 522 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 3: play zone at a top three rate. Yeah, and we've 523 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: talked about this all year on the Flex, but T. 524 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 3: Higgins is kind of the Bengals go to receiver when 525 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 3: they face zone coverage. Like Jamar Chase kills against man coverage, 526 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 3: he's one of the best in the league at beating 527 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 3: man coverage, but against zone, they're a lot closer. 528 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: Like Chase is at two point four yards per out 529 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: run and T. 530 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: Higgins is at two point one, so there's only a 531 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: point three separation, Whereas when you look at man coverage, 532 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 3: Chamar Chase three point six yards per out run, T 533 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: Higgins two point one. So Higgins is kind of that 534 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 3: Eddie guy who just happens to be more productive against 535 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: zone because Chase's numbers will go down in that situation. 536 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 3: You can bracket him a little more and things like that. 537 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: Chase is just a guy. He's gonna kill one on 538 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 3: one coverage. So I really do like that that Higgins call. 539 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: I think Chase and Cups still kind of stand out 540 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 3: as well. If you're going away from quarterback, you know 541 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 3: you're getting Chase at sixteen to one, which I still 542 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 3: think is decent odds for a guy that we know 543 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: can go for like, you know, two hundred plus yards 544 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 3: and two or three touchdowns in a game, and then 545 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 3: Cooper Cup at six to one is just kind of 546 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: a way. You know, Matthew Stafford is the obvious choice 547 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: and he's the favorite. So there's a lot of correlation 548 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: obviously between Stafford and Cup. And there's a situation kind 549 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 3: of like with Brady and Edelman where you know, maybe 550 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 3: the Bengals say, hey, Cooper Cup is going to beat us, 551 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 3: We're gonna We're gonna make sure we cover everyone else 552 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 3: and let Cup get is like one hundred and fifty yards. 553 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 3: So if Cup goes like you know, ten for one 554 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 3: fifty with a touchdown or two, and Stafford only finishes 555 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 3: with like two hundred and fifty yards but the Rams 556 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: win the game, you're looking at. 557 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: Cooper Cup for for MVP. 558 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: So I think it's Cup Chase and loved the Higgins 559 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 3: call as well. 560 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 4: For me, Is there. 561 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 5: Anybody like above one hundred to one odds that you'd consider. 562 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: Let's see, I would say above one hundred. 563 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 5: Can it be at one hundred to one at yeah, yeah, yeah, 564 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 5: like you have like Jalen Ramsey, Yes, that's that was 565 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 5: the guy that's he's one hundred to one. 566 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 4: Okay, it's Jayleen. 567 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: It's it's Jayalen Ramsey because like he wants this right, 568 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, Like he this is 569 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 3: his kind of stage. He wants to be seen on 570 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: this stage. He's going he may he may guard Chase 571 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: one on one. I mean, who knows, maybe they switch it up. 572 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 3: It's a Super Bowl, maybe they break tendency. He's gonna 573 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: want an interception. He's gonna want to try to show out. 574 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: He's gonna want to blitz and get a sack and 575 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 3: get a big play. 576 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 2: So I think Ramsey. 577 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: Will be all over the field, and uh, you know, 578 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 3: I think he's the obvious guy that stands out, especially 579 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 3: when you're getting him at one hundred to one, whereas 580 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: Vonville or who by the way, has won one, he's 581 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 3: fifty to one. So, you know, defensive players, I think 582 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: it's kind of a toss up. You know, whoever the 583 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 3: ball's hands kind of lands in if you get a 584 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: fumble six or a pick six. But you also have 585 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 3: Aaron Donald and he's elved to one, right, So you're 586 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 3: not really getting value on these other stars, Whereas Ramsey, 587 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 3: because of what they're doing with him and putting him 588 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: in that star position, he's actually being able to be 589 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: around the ball a lot more. So I think that's 590 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 3: a ridiculous value for Ramsey. Still a low probability outcome, 591 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 3: but I mean, of everyone on a one hundred to 592 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 3: one or better, I think Ramsey sticks out like a 593 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: sore throw. 594 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 595 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 5: No, I would agree, and you know, he would probably 596 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 5: deserve it if Jamar Chase finishes with zero catches for 597 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 5: scary yards or something. But it also means they're not 598 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 5: throwing to Ramsey, so it's kind of hard for him 599 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 5: to make flash plays in the box score to kind 600 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 5: of warrant an MVP vote. So I agree with you there, 601 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 5: but it's definitely tough these one hundred one. These guys 602 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 5: are one hundred to one for a reason. But I 603 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 5: think like a guy like Trey Hendrickson might be sneaky 604 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 5: on the Bengals side by the way, I'm attacking these 605 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 5: Bengal players because I'm in be on them plus five 606 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 5: and a half and you know money or plus four 607 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 5: and a half and money lines. 608 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 3: So I'm trying about to say, where are you getting 609 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: that line? But podcast, let's talk bit plus five and 610 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: a half. 611 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe I'm seeing in the future that I'm waiting 612 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 5: for big it up to five and a half. But 613 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 5: I think he's he's more likely to get like a 614 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 5: strip stack, you know, things like that to kind of 615 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 5: like make splash plays in the box score. So I 616 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 5: think Hendricks and out of these guys that are just 617 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 5: you know, one hundred to one or better, he's probably 618 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 5: my pick. 619 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,239 Speaker 3: I'll give you one more name since you know, and 620 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people obviously the market. 621 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: Thinks the Rams are going to win, So some of 622 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: these RAMS guys do stick out here. 623 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: One other one that I'll mention is Leonard Floyd because 624 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: all eves are going to be on Donald. 625 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 2: How do we block Donald? How do we block von Miller? 626 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 3: Leonard of Floyd is that guy that is going to 627 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 3: get you know, he'll probably get singled up. They can 628 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: put him on the you know, on prints on the 629 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: right tackle. You know that's been uh that's been an issue. 630 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: You can kind of isolate him where you want. So 631 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 3: and now we don't even know about c. J Usmo, 632 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: which would have been a valuable like chip blocker on 633 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: the outside. So I mean Leonard Floyd, you know, maybe 634 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: there's a fumble or a sack or something, he picks 635 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: it up, maybe he causes it, stripsack. 636 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: You know, that could be just a massive for him. 637 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 3: And we've seen some random defensive players win it in 638 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 3: the pat not that Floyd is random, but he's not 639 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: like a Donald or a Ramsey. So I think he's 640 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: worth mentioning. And what do you think about this? Since 641 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 3: you like the Bengals. No kicker has ever won. But 642 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 3: if the Bengals have a chance, I feel like they're 643 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: going to have to slow down that Rams offense too. 644 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 3: The Rams defense is obviously very good, and the Bengals 645 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: aren't going to have issues blocking you know, all these 646 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: guys in the Rams front. 647 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: So I mean, we could get one of those low 648 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: scoring Super Bowls. 649 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 3: If McPherson, If the Bengals win like eighteen to ten 650 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 3: or fifteen to ten right Anderson, which they had, they've 651 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: won the game by fifteen to ten. Scorer this year. 652 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: But McPherson makes like five field goals and like two 653 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 3: or three fifty yarders, Like, he has to get the MVP, right. 654 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know it's it's gonna be uncommon, but that's 655 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 5: why he's one hundred and one. 656 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 4: Right. 657 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 5: But if there were ever a kicker I think that 658 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 5: could do it, it's probably him. You know, he'll probably 659 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 5: have to kick the game winner to win it, and yeah, 660 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 5: it would have to be a low scoring game where 661 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 5: he gets about four field goals including the game winner. 662 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 5: Maybe you know, two of those kicks have to be 663 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 5: over fifty yards, but it's certainly possible. He's been one 664 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 5: of the better stories of the Bengals season. So yeah, 665 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 5: if there were ever a time to bet the kicker, 666 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 5: I think it was Freeman bet zero line that one year, 667 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 5: and it looks like he's gonna do it. But yeah, 668 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 5: I think this would be the one time I can 669 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 5: get behind backing a kicker at one hundred to one 670 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 5: with Mick Yeers. 671 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: All right, So yeah, that was our MVP talk. 672 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: Just to recap. We like Burrows value a little more 673 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: than Stafford here, but really like the receivers values. They 674 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: won four to the last seventeen, so t Higgins at 675 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: fifty to one, Jamar Chase at sixteen to one, Cooper 676 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 3: Cup at six to one, and then some long shots 677 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson, Jaywen Ramsey, Evan McPherson, Leonard Floyd all one 678 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: hundred to one. All right, let's go to another fun 679 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 3: one first touchdown and uh, I like to look at this, 680 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: uh in terms of the teams, you know, like first 681 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: touchdown for the Rams, first touchdown for the Bengals. I 682 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: think that's a little easier to cap. But how how 683 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 3: do you kind of approach the first touchdown markets? I know, 684 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 3: you usually have a lot of great, uh simulations and 685 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: things like that that are able to kind of give 686 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: us some some true odds here. 687 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I have projections for these and you know, 688 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 5: I project, you know, touchdowns for every player, and it's 689 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 5: it's factoring in. I'm using the Rams or favored by 690 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: four and a half, so I'm not, you know, favoring 691 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 5: the Bengals here. And with with all that said, I 692 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 5: am showing Jamar Chase offering quite a bit of value 693 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 5: at nine to one, so I'm projecting them closer to 694 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 5: seven to one here, again factoring everything where I think 695 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 5: the Rams are probably more likely score first, but you know, Chase, 696 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 5: especially out of the gate, he has such big play 697 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 5: potential when it comes to the first touchdown score. 698 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 4: That's kind of what I like. 699 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 5: So I think, out of you know, both sides, I 700 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 5: think the best value right now is probably Jamar Chase 701 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 5: at nine to one. 702 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: I'll give everyone out there the breakdowns of what actually 703 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 3: has happened this year. I know that's you know, it's 704 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: not necessarily going to line up with the models, which 705 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: are a lot more sophisticated but still interesting. For the Rams, 706 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: Cooper Cup has done it in four out of the 707 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: twenty games, or he's done it twenty percent of the times, 708 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: and also Vin Jefferson has done it twenty percent of 709 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 3: the time. 710 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 2: Those are the two leaders for the Rams. 711 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 3: Higbee and Michelle have done it three times each, or 712 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 3: fifteen percent of the time. And then for the Bengals, 713 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: Joe Mixon has done it twenty five percent of the time, 714 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 3: really actually five out of nineteen games because he didn't 715 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: play in that week eighteen games, so he's above twenty 716 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: five percent? Is Joe Micky here and then cj usomach 717 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase have each done it three times, so about 718 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 3: fifteen percent for each of those guys. 719 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: So those are the leaders for the Bengals. 720 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 3: So I do think there are some interesting ways to 721 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 3: exploit this market. 722 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: In terms of the first touchdown for each team. 723 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 3: For the Rams, Van Jefferson is ten to one to 724 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 3: score the Rams first touchdown. That's a nine percent chance. 725 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 3: And I know Jefferson has been kind of quiet lately, 726 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 3: but he's still out there running a route on over 727 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 3: ninety percent of Stafford's dropbacks. So the odds are if 728 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 3: it's a passing play, Jefferson's going to be in there, 729 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 3: and he pretty much plays every snap, so unless they 730 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 3: go really heavy or it's a running play, I think 731 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 3: you got really good. 732 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 2: Odds on Jefferson right here. 733 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 3: Ten to one is a nine percent implied probability, and 734 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 3: he's done it twenty percent of the time this year, 735 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 3: so I'm not saying he has a true twenty percent chance, 736 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: but yeah, I think it's a little bit higher or 737 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 3: substantially higher than nine percent or ten to one odds here. 738 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: I also think Cam Akers is interesting. He's five to 739 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 3: one to score the first touchdown for the Rams at 740 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 3: seventeen percent. A starting running back for the Rams has 741 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 3: scored in a quarter of their games the first touchdown, 742 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 3: so that's about twenty five percent, whereas the imply to 743 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: odds for Acres that are about seventeen percent. 744 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: So I think you're getting. 745 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 3: A pretty good edge there, and that that's a pretty 746 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 3: you know, we know Acres, we know Michelle will probably 747 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: mix in, but Acres is the starting running back. 748 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: That's been abundantly clear. 749 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 3: I think he'll be He'll get the first crack at 750 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: the at the goal line, carries down there, so I 751 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: really like that one. 752 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 2: And then Tyler. 753 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 3: Higbee, if he plays, you know, fifteen percent of the 754 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 3: time he scored the Rams first touchdown, the odds I 755 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 3: and probably only about a ten percent chance at nine 756 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 3: to one, maybe because he's injured, but if he's playing, 757 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 3: he's gonna be out. 758 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: He's another guy. 759 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 3: He's gonna be out there every snap, so I think 760 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 3: he's another good bet. And then for the Bengals mentioned mixing, 761 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 3: he's done it over twenty five percent of the time. 762 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 3: His odds to score the Bengals first touchdown are three 763 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 3: and a half one, so the implied odds are only 764 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: about twenty percent, whereas his true odds are probably closer 765 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 3: to twenty five percent, and then a real two long shots, 766 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 3: the backup running backs for the Bengals. I mentioned I 767 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 3: don't like t Ryan for his median, but I do 768 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 3: like him for a long shot because he's actually scored 769 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 3: the Bengals first touchdown twice this year. And that's not 770 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 3: even including the game where you know, no one played, 771 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 3: because I don't think he. 772 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: Played in that game either, the last game of the season, and. 773 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 4: It was very tilting for DFS. 774 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: Right yeah, because he thought he was going to play that, 775 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 3: you know, nice little zero in our lineup. But I digress. 776 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 3: But so he's done it ten percent of the time. 777 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 3: His odds are twenty eight to one. That's just a 778 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 3: three point four percent implied odds, So you're getting about 779 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: three x on what his true odds have been this year. 780 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean his true odds going forward or ten percent. 781 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 3: But the point is they you know, he's kind of 782 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,959 Speaker 3: one of those guys that they just draw us things up. 783 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 2: For every once in a while. I don't know if 784 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 2: they'll do it as much here. 785 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 3: That's why I like his But at twenty eight to one, 786 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's not bad, and you know 787 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 3: there's also the possibility that maybe Mixing gets like banged 788 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: up on like a long carrier that he runs it 789 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 3: in from like a yard out. So there's a lot 790 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 3: of possibilities there for p Ryan and then Chris Evans 791 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 3: kind of the same thing. His odds are thirty three 792 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 3: to one two point nine percent, and Piet odds he's 793 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 3: actually done it twice this year. 794 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 2: Now, one of them was in the Week eighteen game. 795 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 3: But he's also the kick return so he's going to 796 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 3: get some chances here to do this. You know, if 797 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 3: the Bengals win to toss, he could get a chance 798 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 3: early in the game, about a forty percent chance that 799 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 3: you know, it's not a touchback for Matt Gay. So 800 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 3: I like Chris Evans as well at thirty three to one, 801 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 3: and again with these backup running backs, you never know, 802 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 3: like Mixing could break a long run, maybe he has 803 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 3: to come out, maybe he gets banged up. He always 804 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 3: seems to be a little banged up, and somebody else 805 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 3: has to come in and get like a one or 806 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 3: two yard touchdown. So I think if there's ever a 807 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 3: time to bet backup running backs who are projecting for 808 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 3: like half a touch for some long shot. 809 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: It's it's now so because. 810 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 3: We usually just don't even get odds posted a lot 811 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 3: of times for some of these, So especially for first 812 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,919 Speaker 3: team touchdown, we might get first touchdown scorer, but then 813 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 3: that's just even harder. But for first team touchdown, I 814 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 3: think most of these teams should score a touchdown, and 815 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 3: if not, our McPherson beck cashes exactly. 816 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, those are the kind of ones I'm looking at. 817 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 3: But I really think that Van Jefferson one stands out 818 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 3: just because he's on the field every play and his 819 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 3: true odds this season have been, you know, more. 820 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: Than double what the what the implied odds are. 821 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense. 822 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 5: And just looking at your breakdown, which you did a 823 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 5: fantastic job of. 824 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 4: By the way, just Uzoma tied. 825 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 5: For second with Chase with three first touchdown scores in 826 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 5: twenty games. Like Uzama seems like a serious fifty to 827 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 5: fifty shot to play this game. So if he were 828 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 5: to be ruled out and it's true sample, that's that's 829 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 5: a massive drop off in terms of you know, touchdown xpect. 830 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 5: So you know, guys like Chase Mix and Higgins, their 831 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 5: odds will only go up. So I think that the 832 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 5: time to kind of attack this market for either team, 833 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 5: because you already mentioned Higbee is a fifty to fifty 834 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 5: bet as well. The kind of the time to take 835 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 5: advantage of that is probably now if you can find value, 836 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 5: because they might only go up if one of these 837 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 5: tight ends is ruled out. 838 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all right. So that's first touchdown for the game. 839 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: John loves the nine to one odds for Chase. I'm 840 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 3: guessing those are going to get shorter as we approach 841 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 3: game time. And then for first Rams touchdown, I really 842 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 3: like Van Jefferson at ten to one, at light cam 843 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 3: Makers at five to one as well, and then on 844 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 3: the Bengal side, we love Joe Mixon at three and 845 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 3: a half to one and Pe Ryan and Evans' long 846 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 3: shots at twenty eight and thirty three to one, respectively. 847 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast is proudly presented by bett MGM, 848 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: and to celebrate the twenty twenty one NFL season, bet 849 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: MGM is offering a great sign up offer for our listeners, 850 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: a one thousand dollars risk free first bet. 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Thanks so much for listening. 876 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,439 Speaker 1: Let's get back to the show. 877 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 3: Let's move on to an interesting prop uh the first 878 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 3: play of the game Runner pass uh any thoughts. I 879 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 3: have some thoughts on this, but I'm just curious to 880 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 3: your thoughts. Do you ever bet this line or do 881 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 3: you have any thoughts on just, you know, based on 882 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 3: these two teams, how to attack this one. 883 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 5: Now, this is usually when I stay away from I 884 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 5: include this with the first time out type of props 885 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 5: that I ever bet. But I'm assuming with this matchup 886 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 5: there would be a pass, especially with you know how 887 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 5: pass heavy the Bengals have been of late, But last 888 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 5: week it seemed like they ran it a ton on 889 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 5: first down, so I'd probably stay away. This seems a 890 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 5: little too random for me, but if you have any 891 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 5: info that can convince me otherwise, go for it. 892 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 3: I think you have to bang pass here because at 893 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 3: MGM run is minus one thirty passes even money at 894 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 3: plus one hundred. 895 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 4: Wow. 896 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 3: I went back and looked at every first play of 897 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 3: the game for each team. 898 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 4: There you go. 899 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 3: The Rams have passed only forty percent. 900 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 2: Of the time, eight out of twenty. 901 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 3: Okay, the Bengals have passed fifteen of twenty times. 902 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 2: That's eighty percent. 903 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 3: So you average that out and that's about sixty percent, 904 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 3: which which meaning the true odds are closer to minus 905 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 3: one fifty. But either way at worst, I'd say at 906 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 3: worst it's a fifty to fifty bet and you're getting 907 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 3: plus one hundred anyway for pass and I think that's 908 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 3: the floor. So anytime you can get even money for 909 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 3: the floor, I think you got to take it here 910 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 3: because if you want to say, hey, none of us know, 911 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 3: you could go either way, fine, but then in reality 912 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: you should It should be minus one fifteen each way 913 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 3: given the vig. But you're still getting essentially. 914 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 2: Free veig on the pass year at plus one hundred, 915 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 2: So I think you got a bang pass year. 916 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 3: But even just based on these teams tendencies, just like 917 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 3: it's just like you know, looking at all these teams, 918 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 3: they've deferred and you know, more often than not the 919 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 3: Bengals are going to pass, so the Rams have been getting. 920 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 2: A little more you know, pass. 921 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 3: They went through the stage in the middle of the 922 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 3: year when they ran a lot, but they've been passing 923 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 3: a little more, especially against good run defenses. 924 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: And the Bengals run defense. 925 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 3: Is better than their pass defense. So I do think 926 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 3: that the Rams, if they get the ball first, are 927 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 3: a good bet to come out and throwing the ball. 928 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 3: And then the Bengals have been an eighty percent eighty 929 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 3: percent odds to throw the ball. So yeah, I think 930 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 3: you got a bang pass year. 931 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 5: It's a Super Bowl too. These these coaches have two 932 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 5: weeks to dream up their first play. Do you think 933 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 5: they're just going to bang it up in the middle 934 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 5: with mixing or acres for two yard kerry? Hell no, 935 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 5: just take a deep shot or you know, just complete 936 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 5: a four yard pass just to settle the nerves of 937 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 5: the quarterback and play it like it does make sense 938 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 5: to just you know, take past it even money. 939 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 4: You've convinced me on this one, so. 940 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we love pass it even money. I would even 941 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 3: bet it a little past even money. I would bet 942 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 3: it's about maybe one thirty or so, because I think 943 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,240 Speaker 3: the true odds are poser to sixty percent just based 944 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 3: on the histories. All right, let's talk about some scoring 945 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 3: early on in the game. We'll talk first quarter, in 946 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 3: first half in a minute, but first six minutes. That's 947 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 3: an interesting one that sometimes people want to get down on. 948 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 3: Any thoughts on this one. 949 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 5: Not really, because you know, I'll probably end up being 950 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 5: on the under. I think it's going to get bet 951 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 5: up potentially at forty nine and a half, maybe fifty again, 952 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 5: so I'm look into bet on the under stuff anything. 953 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 5: I would fade a score in the first six minutes. Yeah, So, 954 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 5: I think because you had anticipate that most action will 955 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 5: be on a score happening in the first six minutes, 956 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 5: people don't want to root for nothing to happen, So 957 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 5: I would probably wait for this do odds for the 958 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 5: know on this market will probably only get better. So 959 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 5: if anything, without looking at the data I'm sure you gathered, 960 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 5: I'll probably be on the know on this, just sort 961 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 5: of fading the market. 962 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:20,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 963 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 3: So the odds I've steen out there about minus one 964 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 3: forty for the no I think the true odd should 965 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 3: be closer about minus one seventy, which is about a 966 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 3: sixty four percent chance of it of no score because 967 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 3: you look at this season, Cincinnati scored in the first 968 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 3: six minutes in twenty percent of their games, and so 969 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 3: did the Rams. And then Cincinnati allowed to score in 970 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 3: the first six minutes in twenty five percent of the games, 971 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 3: the Rams allowed it in fifteen percent, So about a 972 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 3: twenty percent chance for each team. You kind of do 973 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 3: some math, you know, and it comes out to about 974 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,720 Speaker 3: a sixty four percent chance of not having a score 975 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 3: by either team in that first six minutes. And that 976 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 3: would be about minus one seventy. And again, the odds 977 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 3: that I've seen out there are about minus one forty, 978 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 3: So you're getting some pretty good value there. But I 979 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 3: think that's going to go right into the next thing 980 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 3: I want to talk about, which is early in the game. 981 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 3: I mean, we kind of talked about we do expect it, 982 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 3: you know, a pass a little bit more likely than 983 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 3: a run early in the game. But one of the 984 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 3: things I will say is that first quarters in the 985 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 3: Super Bowl they do tend to be well scoring. They 986 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 3: do tend to be a situation where teams are kind 987 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 3: of feeling themselves out. Only eight of twenty two first 988 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 3: quarters since nineteen ninety nine in the Super Bowl have 989 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 3: hit double digits. That's this thirty six point three percent. 990 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 3: Right now, the over under at bet MGM is nine 991 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 3: and a half, so I think you'd have to go 992 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 3: pretty juice to the under before you stop betting, you know, 993 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 3: on under nine and a half year. But what are 994 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 3: your thoughts on just how these teams are going to 995 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 3: kind of come out? Is it going to change based on, 996 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 3: you know, whether the Rams win and defer or are 997 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 3: the Bengals win and defer the coin thoss, because that 998 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 3: again is going to happen. 999 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 5: No, I don't think that would matter, but I do anticipate, 1000 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 5: you know, the first quarter it's going to be a 1001 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 5: bit of a chess match. These coaches will probably be 1002 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 5: playing for field position, just trying to settle in. So yeah, 1003 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 5: I'm probably going to lean on the under here. And 1004 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 5: this is usually when I think Kevin Hubert is going 1005 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 5: to launch a punt over fifty two and a half yards, 1006 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 5: So I think early on, I think it will be 1007 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 5: sort of a field position battle. I think the second 1008 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 5: half would be when we start seeing fireworks once these 1009 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 5: coaches sort of. 1010 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 4: Relaxed a bit. But yeah, typically the first quarter is 1011 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 4: the you know, the lowest scoring. 1012 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 2: Quarter, But you like the first quarter under? 1013 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure. 1014 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 3: Okay, So I got some numbers for you. You're going 1015 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 3: to love this, Okay, bring the first quarter total this year, 1016 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:54,359 Speaker 3: the Bengals are six thirteen and one. The Rams are 1017 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 3: even worse at six and fourteen towards the over. That 1018 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 3: is so combined, they're twelve and two twenty seven with 1019 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 3: one push toward the over, or looked at another way, 1020 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 3: they're twenty seven to twelve and one toward the under. 1021 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 2: A cool sixty nine percent. 1022 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:11,240 Speaker 4: Wow. 1023 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's uh, that's a that's a yeah exactly. 1024 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 3: That's another one of those bets. Uh. 1025 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,760 Speaker 2: You know, I I'm going to lock in here. 1026 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 3: You know, obviously you can see a big play or 1027 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 3: something could ruin it, but you still need that touchdown 1028 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 3: and then another field goal. 1029 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 4: You know. 1030 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 3: Both of these teams, I think, well, you know, the quarterbacks, 1031 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 3: you could generally trust them that you might get sacked, 1032 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 3: you know, so that that could also help burrow. 1033 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 2: Led the league in sacked, which could really help it. 1034 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I think this is a nice, 1035 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 3: a nice little edge here on the first quarter. The 1036 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 3: spreads have been both teams have been kind of a 1037 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 3: little better than average toward the spread in the first quarter, 1038 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 3: but I don't see any edge there second quarter though, 1039 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 3: So if we hit the first quarter under this, and 1040 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 3: this kind of goes into live betting, which again you know, 1041 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,760 Speaker 3: we can talk about more detail, you know, at other times. 1042 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 3: But second quarter totals rams ten nine to one, but 1043 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 3: the Bengals fourteen and six, so that you know, the 1044 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 3: Bengals six thirteen and one in the first quarter, total 1045 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 3: fourteen and six in the second quarter. The Bengals have 1046 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 3: really kind of they're an adjustments team, right, Like we 1047 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 3: saw that last week against the Chiefs. The Bengals are 1048 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 3: an adjustment team. So sometimes it takes to the second half. 1049 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 3: That's been the narrative, but can be the second quarter 1050 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 3: as well. And the second quarter is just a high 1051 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 3: scoring quarter. So I think if you are looking to 1052 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 3: betting over which I know most people are, second quarter 1053 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 3: probably makes more sense just given the history, given the 1054 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 3: two teams, given what we see in the Super Bowl. 1055 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,399 Speaker 3: So the overrunner for the second quarter is fourteen, which 1056 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,959 Speaker 3: is pretty doable because I think, I mean, how would 1057 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 3: you assess the chances of like at least one of 1058 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 3: these teams scoring in the two minute I mean it's 1059 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 3: very high, right, Yeah. 1060 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 5: We could see you know, both teams score in the 1061 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,359 Speaker 5: two minutes if the first team gets the ball in 1062 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 5: the two minute offense and maybe just march down the 1063 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 5: field and score immediately. You know, both teams have really 1064 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 5: good pickers, so we could see another team march down 1065 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 5: the field and get a field weal, So I do 1066 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 5: like the idea of you know, locking in the first 1067 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,240 Speaker 5: quarter under nine and a half before the game starts, 1068 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 5: and then maybe just wait till endgame to sort of 1069 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 5: bet the over on the first half once we do 1070 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 5: get closer to the second quarter. I think that makes sense, 1071 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 5: especially just based on these two teams and you know 1072 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 5: how good both offenses are, but they could start off flow. 1073 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that's a good in play betting strategy. 1074 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the third quarter. 1075 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 3: Third quarter, Bengals have been kind of averaged toward the total. 1076 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 3: RAMS have actually been thirteen six and one in the 1077 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,879 Speaker 3: third quarter, so toward the over, so you know, take 1078 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,879 Speaker 3: that what you will. I don't see anything major that's 1079 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 3: kind of causing that, but I did see something interesting 1080 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 3: with the third quarter spread, and that's because, as we mentioned, 1081 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 3: we talked about Cincinnati, their team that makes great adjustments, 1082 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 3: So it wasn't an average like that first second half turnaround. 1083 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 3: This season, the Cincinnati Bengals are sixteen and four against 1084 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 3: the spread in the third quarter, the Rams eight and twelve. 1085 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 3: So you combine that and that's a seventy percent on average, 1086 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 3: you know, hit rate in Cincinnati's favor, Like, that's that's 1087 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 3: extremely high here. So I mean, any thoughts here on like, 1088 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 3: you know, I know you like you're probably going to 1089 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,959 Speaker 3: be on the Bengals full game. Is this something that 1090 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 3: you know you'd kind of want to lock in, you know, 1091 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 3: before the game as well, or is it an opportunity 1092 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 3: to live better? 1093 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 5: How would you kind of use that information? Yeah, that 1094 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 5: is interesting, you know that might be a live bet strategy. 1095 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 5: Plus it's also you know, I'm taking probably the Bengals 1096 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 5: four and a half, hopefully five to gets there, knowing 1097 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,959 Speaker 5: that if the Bengals do get behind, they're a team 1098 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 5: that makes adjustments and you know, can come back from 1099 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,240 Speaker 5: any dustice that so I'm sort. 1100 00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 4: Of baking that in the cake. 1101 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 5: But yeah, if you just want to go into the 1102 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 5: game assuming they'll get behind, and then back them in game, 1103 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 5: you could be getting them, you know, plus ten and 1104 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 5: a half, let's say, so that might be actually the 1105 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 5: smart strategy, but I think going into this, I'm just 1106 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,919 Speaker 5: gonna lock them in at four and a half root 1107 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 5: for them out of the gate. But yeah, if they 1108 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 5: do get behind, I am confident we'll come back because 1109 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 5: of a lot of things that you said when they 1110 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 5: make halftime adjustments, and just Joe Bert's ability to come back. 1111 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 5: So I think it's kind of just whatever, pick your place, 1112 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 5: whatever you know you want to do. 1113 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 4: It's up to you. 1114 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 5: But I'm going to be locking them in before the 1115 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,320 Speaker 5: game plus four and a half. 1116 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into some player props. 1117 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 3: Mentioned a couple at the top that we like, but 1118 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 3: let's kind of look at these markets a little more closely. 1119 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 3: Do I know you like the Cooper Cup, I know 1120 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 3: you like Chase his first touchdown. I know you like 1121 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 3: Kevin Euber. What other player props kind of stand out 1122 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 3: to you in the market. 1123 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 4: So I have a. 1124 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 5: Couple Bengals player props I've been eyeing. I haven't locked 1125 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 5: them in yet because their price keeps dropping. I'm sort 1126 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 5: of waiting for it to hit rock bottom and they'll 1127 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 5: probably go on the over but the first one is 1128 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow over two hundred and seventy one and a 1129 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 5: half passing yards. Now, granted, this is a tough matchup 1130 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,280 Speaker 5: against the Rams, there's no denying that, but Burrow certainly 1131 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 5: has the talent and the weapons to overcome it. The 1132 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 5: Bengals have become increasingly passed heavy since Week fourteen. You know, 1133 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 5: they've had the fourth highest early down pass rate in 1134 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 5: neutral situations. So you know, I think just the volume 1135 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 5: is going to be there, and they've been getting you know, 1136 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 5: Joe Mixon evolved in the passing game. That's sort of 1137 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,919 Speaker 5: been an extension of the running game. So just all 1138 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 5: signs points to Joe Burrow having a good game through 1139 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 5: the air. I'm projecting this closer to two eighty five. 1140 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 5: So the fact that it's too study one, we have 1141 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 5: quite a bit of value, and it, like I said, 1142 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,720 Speaker 5: it keeps dropping. So I'm sort of going to time 1143 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 5: it once it hits rock bottom to go in on 1144 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 5: the over here, and then I'm probably going to pair 1145 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 5: that up with ke Higgins over sixty seven and a 1146 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 5: half receiving yards. You already talked about the top of 1147 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 5: the show how ke Higgins has generally done really well 1148 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 5: against zone defenses this year, so against the Rams that 1149 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 5: play zone at a very high rate, I think Higgins's 1150 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 5: going to have a big game, especially if they put 1151 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,240 Speaker 5: extra resources in on you know, slowing down Jamar Chase. 1152 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 5: Tyler Boyd has sort of been invisible in this offensive late, 1153 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,919 Speaker 5: so you know, t Higgins set up for a big 1154 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 5: game here, and if tij Uzoma is ruled out, I 1155 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 5: think that's that's going to help Higgins even more so. 1156 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,399 Speaker 5: I love getting Higgins over sixty seven and a half. 1157 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 5: I'm projecting him closer to seventy six up for his median. 1158 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 4: So again, I think. 1159 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 5: There's quite a bit of value here, but I'm going 1160 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 5: to wait for it to kind of drop to the 1161 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,399 Speaker 5: low point and then come in on the over. 1162 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 3: Speaking of Uzoma, I think this is a good segue 1163 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,360 Speaker 3: as we're talking about player props to kind of ask 1164 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 3: you what impact does Uzoma and Tyler Higbee, both of 1165 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 3: their impacts being out versus in like, is it any 1166 00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 3: tangible differential in you know, the yardage for Burrow and Stafford. 1167 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 3: Is it any differential in the yardage for guys like Chase, 1168 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,760 Speaker 3: you know, cup Beck, is it the second receivers that benefit. 1169 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 3: Is it the is it guys like Van Jefferson and 1170 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 3: Tyler Boyd that benefit? 1171 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 2: Like, how do you think? What do you think happens? 1172 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,360 Speaker 3: And is there a way to take advantage of the market, 1173 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,359 Speaker 3: you know, based on the that we don't know right 1174 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,839 Speaker 3: now whether these guys are kind of outer run. 1175 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's certainly a tricky situation. 1176 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,959 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, it means that we can't have like we don't 1177 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 5: have any cj Uzoma or Drew sample prop. So that's 1178 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 5: step one is that they can't even offer these props yet. 1179 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 5: But next week I will have my player prop calculator 1180 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 5: where I'm going to have these percentages for every player, 1181 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 5: and I think I'm gonna add in is cj Uzoma. 1182 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 4: In or out? 1183 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 5: Like I will have it that granular and you'll be 1184 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,240 Speaker 5: able to see like Tyler Boyd, for example, his projection 1185 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 5: will probably go up if C j Uzoma is ruled out. 1186 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,399 Speaker 5: You know again gig and his projection will probably go up. 1187 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,399 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna be factoring that all in. I think 1188 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 5: a guy like Jamar Chase probably doesn't matter much. He's 1189 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,919 Speaker 5: probably already maxed out. So Uzoma being interrupt probably doesn't 1190 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 5: impact him as much, but these sort of ant layer receivers, 1191 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 5: you could see their projection go up because you know, 1192 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 5: if a guy like Drew Stample is starting, he sees 1193 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 5: way lower target share than. 1194 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 4: C j Uzomas do those those have to go somewhere. 1195 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 5: So I think you'll see, you know, guys like mix 1196 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,799 Speaker 5: In Higgins or Boyd sort of pick those up. And 1197 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 5: I'll be factoring all that in my player prop tool 1198 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 5: that will be released next week. 1199 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,320 Speaker 2: At Action Network dot com. 1200 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 4: At Action Network dot com. 1201 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,399 Speaker 3: Uh, that's yeah, that's an interesting one. Mixing I think, 1202 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 3: you know, you know, I know Boyd is kind of 1203 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 3: thought of as that middle of the field receiver, and 1204 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 3: I think it's about Toby has a good game, So 1205 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 3: I mean he's due, right, He's definitely due another guy. 1206 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,439 Speaker 3: He's just like Van Jefferson, Right, It's like these guys 1207 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 3: are out there ninety percent of the time. Plus it's 1208 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 3: only a matter of time and it could happened on 1209 00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,359 Speaker 3: one catch if things go right. So, uh, don't don't 1210 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 3: hate his number at forty one and a half. Though 1211 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 3: I don't think there's really a massive edge based on 1212 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 3: whether he Zoma plays or not. But I think mixing 1213 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 3: is interesting at twenty five and a half, you know, 1214 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 3: the Bengals are underdogs. If there's a lot of zone coverage, 1215 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 3: he could see I think a lot of dumpoffs, and 1216 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 3: as I mentioned, I think he's going to see the 1217 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 3: field more than at any point because this is the 1218 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. I mean, you don't there's no reason to 1219 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 3: play samaj p Ryan in this kind of game, so 1220 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 3: that that could be one. 1221 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, well we'll kind of have. 1222 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,919 Speaker 3: The updater projections and you'll have your props calculator. That's 1223 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 3: just something Unfortunately we can't attack as much as we 1224 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 3: want to and that and it kind of carries over 1225 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 3: to just a bunch of the receiving numbers. Really, Like 1226 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 3: if I was sure that they were in or out, 1227 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 3: I think I would be a little more confident with 1228 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 3: a recommendation on like Boyd on Jefferson who's been kind 1229 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 3: of trending down, but his numbers also low now because 1230 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 3: of it. But until those guys are ruled in and out, 1231 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 3: I don't think we can really you know, there's really 1232 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 3: not a confident record mandation we could give each way 1233 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 3: either way because it will change. So you like Burrow, 1234 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 3: you like Higgins, I'll talk about a couple that stood 1235 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 3: out to me. The first one was Joe Mixon, and 1236 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 3: I'll stay with the Bengals for a second here. Joe 1237 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 3: Mixon over sixteen and a half rush attempts at minus 1238 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 3: one twenty. He's been over this in twelve out of 1239 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 3: nineteen games this season, or sixty three percent, so that 1240 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 3: would put the true odds closer to minus one seventy. 1241 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 2: But he's also been over. 1242 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 3: In two or three this postseason. And it is interesting 1243 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 3: because you did mention you know, the Burrow yardage prop 1244 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 3: is going down. I don't necessarily think that's like, oh, 1245 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 3: the Bengals are going to struggle. I think that's because 1246 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 3: we've seen the spread. You know, it got bet up 1247 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 3: to four and a half at one point, it's got 1248 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 3: down back to four at some books. So I think, 1249 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 3: you know, the more even the game script is, the 1250 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 3: better chance you have for Mixon to get a decent 1251 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 3: number of rush attempts. So, you know, he's been a 1252 00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 3: guy that all year long they leaned on him, and 1253 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 3: I thinks a chance he plays more snaps in this 1254 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 3: game than he's played pretty much, I don't want to 1255 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 3: say all season, but pretty much all postseason when he 1256 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,919 Speaker 3: still does take a breather here and there, maybe eighth 1257 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 3: every eighth and ninth snap he'll come out. So I 1258 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 3: like the over sixteen and a half rushes from Mixing. 1259 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 3: I have him projected closer to eighteen and a half. 1260 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 5: Wow, Yeah, I have him at seventeen and a half. 1261 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 5: And again I don't think I mentioned this at the top, 1262 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 5: but you know, I'm gonna have a massive card, maybe 1263 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 5: like over ten props total, and I like to make 1264 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 5: sure they all correlate. I ended up going nine to 1265 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 5: zer last year because I'm so meticulous on making sure 1266 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 5: that if I'm adding a prop that it fits sort 1267 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 5: of the narrative of you know, all my other props. 1268 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 5: So I think this one pairs well if if you're 1269 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 5: gonna betting on the Bengals, whether it's money line or spread, 1270 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 5: you know, taking Mixing to go over sixteen and a 1271 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 5: half rush steps for like really well with that. So 1272 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna throw this in there just because yeah, 1273 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 5: like like we said, I don't I don't think Somaje 1274 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 5: p Ran or Chris Evans we'll see a rush attempt here, 1275 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 5: so is going to get it all. There's no reason 1276 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 5: to not give him every rush ten. It's a super Bowl, 1277 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 5: so I think it's going to be a much more 1278 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 5: favorable game script than the markets than playing yeah I'm 1279 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 5: with you here. Closer are like eighteen rush stemps. 1280 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 3: And then one other one that really stood out here 1281 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 3: was Matthew Stafford. His rushing prop is at five and 1282 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 3: a half, and I think this is this is a 1283 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 3: really interesting one because it's like, do you have the 1284 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 3: cahonis essentially to bet the under, which I think is 1285 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 3: the right play, even though he's gone over the number 1286 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 3: in every postseason game, but on the season, he's been 1287 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 3: under in thirteen out of twenty, or sixty five percent. 1288 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 3: That would mean his true odds at five and a half, 1289 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 3: the under should be closer to minus one eighty five 1290 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 3: instead of minus one fifteen. But even more interestingly, you 1291 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 3: want to look at the median, which is really what 1292 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 3: we're trying to kind of isolate here and figure out 1293 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 3: which way to bet. Matthew Stafford's median rushing yard this 1294 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 3: year is half a yard, So I mean, yes, you know, 1295 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 3: when he goes over, it's usually probably like one scramble 1296 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,439 Speaker 3: that's gonna take him over. 1297 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 2: He doesn't scramble very often. 1298 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 3: Maybe he'll get like a couple of quarterback sneaks or 1299 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 3: something like that. 1300 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 2: But I think there's a massive kind of edge here. 1301 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 3: You know, it didn't quite make it into my top three, 1302 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 3: but it's right there because I still think there's a 1303 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,439 Speaker 3: pretty big edge in under five and a half. I mean, 1304 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 3: you could have quarterback sneaks, you could have a scramble, 1305 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 3: you could have and then that's not to say, you know, again, 1306 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 3: the Rams are still favored. Even though we both kind 1307 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,160 Speaker 3: of lean Bengals at the spread, the Rams are still favored. 1308 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 3: You could get three nail downs, you might even get 1309 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,439 Speaker 3: a kneel down at the half. Like, there's a lot 1310 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 3: of ways for him to go under this number, as 1311 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 3: he's done in two thirds of his games this season. 1312 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so when it comes to Matthew Stafford, even if 1313 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 5: he ends up getting seven rushing yards, let's say if 1314 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 5: the Rams win, he'll probably get a couple kneel downs 1315 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 5: at the end and he can still go under. So 1316 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 5: I do like sort of the out that you have 1317 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 5: at your disposal if Stafford even clears this. So yeah, no, 1318 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 5: I love this. Like you said, his media on the 1319 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 5: season is a half yard. Yeah, so I wouldn't, you know, 1320 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 5: just overweight. The past few games, he's he's scrambled and 1321 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 5: you know, he looked like shit while doing it. But 1322 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 5: I think this is giving us a golden opportunity here 1323 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 5: to hammer this under free. 1324 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 2: To drive this point home. 1325 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 3: The Bengals have allowed the tense fewest rushing yards to 1326 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 3: quarterbacks during the regular season. Of those yards, there were 1327 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty seven of them, over fifty percent 1328 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 3: came from Lamar Jackson and Justin Fields, two quarterbacks responsible 1329 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 3: for over fifty percent of the rushing yard is allowed 1330 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 3: during the regular season for the Cincinnati Bengals, and they 1331 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 3: play a lot of his own and they drop eight 1332 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 3: back in the coverage sometimes, as we saw last week. 1333 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 3: So that's chick Mahomes was running backwards for most of 1334 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 3: that that second half, and he went well under his 1335 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 3: his rushing yardage prop last week as well. 1336 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, I like the underhere. 1337 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 3: It's just one of those things where if you look 1338 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 3: at the game logs, you can, oh man, he went 1339 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 3: over three straight. It's like that's it's not how it works. 1340 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 3: We need to look at the larger sample, We need 1341 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 3: to look at the matchup. We need to look at 1342 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 3: the game script. So yeah, this is what I love. 1343 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 5: One of my favorite Super Bowl he like good beats 1344 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,920 Speaker 5: of all time was that Patrick Maholmes under twenty nine 1345 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 5: and a half rushing yards and he had like what 1346 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 5: forty one or something heading into the final drive, and 1347 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,320 Speaker 5: he didn't just kneel down, he like ran backwards for 1348 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 5: eight to ten yards. Wife, I think to lose about 1349 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 5: fifteen yards just barely going under the rushing totals. So 1350 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 5: these are always exciting to bet on in general when 1351 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 5: it comes to scrule. But yeah, this s deffinite one. 1352 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 5: Probably won't be exciting because he might not even scramble, 1353 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 5: but either way, tond of value here. 1354 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 3: African don his game with Zeros for zero yard, right, 1355 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 3: It's a very real outcome here, So yeah, I love 1356 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 3: it all Right. A couple more I want to talk 1357 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 3: about just because they're interesting, they're exciting, people probably are 1358 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 3: gonna want to bet on him. 1359 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 2: I'll start with Cooper Cup right now at BETMGM. 1360 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 3: His receiving yardage over under is one hundred and five 1361 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 3: and a half. 1362 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 2: What do you think it? 1363 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm right in line with that, like I said, 1364 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 5: so I'm projecting him at eight receptions with a median 1365 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 5: and closer to one oh two and a half. So 1366 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 5: I'm slightly under and I figured that would be the case. 1367 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,680 Speaker 5: They're probably just taking a ton of action on the over. 1368 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 5: But I already gave you an out here Cooper Cup 1369 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 5: over twenty eight and a half yards for as long 1370 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 5: as reception. I think that's the market to bet on 1371 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 5: for Cooper Cup. I think his you know, his yardage 1372 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 5: is insane for a reason. He's been you know, right 1373 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 5: around here all season long. But I'm going to stay 1374 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 5: away from this, but again, I think the values on 1375 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 5: his longest reception going over. 1376 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm truly in line with this, Like I 1377 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,840 Speaker 3: actually have his media at one oh five and a half, 1378 01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 3: so I think this is I think this is a 1379 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 3: great line. Let's talk Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase seventy eight 1380 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 3: and a half. You kind of mentioned, you know, T 1381 01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 3: Higgins has been the guy with a Morgan zone. This 1382 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 3: is probably one of those games where you want to 1383 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 3: sell out the stop Chase bet. MGM has Chase at 1384 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 3: seventy eight and a half for his receiving yardage over under. 1385 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 5: What do you think of that one? I think that's 1386 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 5: a bit high. I'm projecting this closer to seventy two 1387 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 5: and a half. But again, I'm not gonna directly bet 1388 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 5: the under on Jamar Chase because I'm gonna want the 1389 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 5: Bengals to win. I have them plus four potentially money line, 1390 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 5: so I'm not I don't want to be rooting against 1391 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 5: Jamar Chase. So I think the way to do this 1392 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 5: is what I described is. You know, I'm going to 1393 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 5: bet Joe Burrow over on his passing yards, so I 1394 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,720 Speaker 5: will be rooting for Jamar Chase in that regard. 1395 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,440 Speaker 4: And then I think t Higgins. 1396 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 5: Heading me over on him is sort of a way 1397 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 5: to hedge a bit and you know, against Jamar Chase, 1398 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 5: so you know, so to speak. 1399 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 4: So I think that. 1400 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 5: I'm going to like weasel my way around fading Jamar Chase, 1401 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 5: but I'm not going to bet it directly. 1402 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 4: How about you. 1403 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm under a little higher than you, but I'm 1404 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 3: at seventy six and a half for a median, so 1405 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,240 Speaker 3: a couple of yards under whereas I'm a couple I'm 1406 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 3: about four yards over on Higgins, have him about seventy 1407 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 3: one and a half for the median. Actually, let's talk 1408 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 3: about Tyler Boyd really quick and Jefferson because I do 1409 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 3: so right now, I kind of have the snap split 1410 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 3: in my model between you know you Zoma and Sample 1411 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 3: and Higbee and Blanton. But I am over both Tyler 1412 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 3: Boyd and Van Jefferson current numbers. I have Boyd about 1413 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 3: forty five and a half the markets at forty one 1414 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 3: and a half, and then I have Jefferson about thirty 1415 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,479 Speaker 3: five and a half the markets thirty one and a half. 1416 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 3: So are you more in line with the market or 1417 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 3: are you kind of where are you on those two guys? 1418 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm in line with the market on Boyd 1419 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 5: and full disclosure, I had Boyd over was like thirty 1420 01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 5: nine and a half. For Steve Yart's last name. He 1421 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,400 Speaker 5: had like with the first drive, he had three catches 1422 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 5: for nineteen yards. I'm like, all right, got it in 1423 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,160 Speaker 5: the bag. And that's pretty much what he ended on. 1424 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 5: He had an a dot cost to like one point 1425 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 5: nine last week. If anything, I would maybe attack the 1426 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,720 Speaker 5: over on his receptions and attack the under on the 1427 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 5: receiving yards just that's how his usage has been especially 1428 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 5: of late. But I'm in line with the market on him. 1429 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 5: I think Van Jefferson. He's a guy I probably wouldn't 1430 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 5: touch the receiving yards because I think you mentioned it. 1431 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,320 Speaker 5: He can score at any point on the field. His 1432 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,439 Speaker 5: A dot has been through the roof of late last 1433 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 5: week it was twenty four point four. A couple weeks 1434 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 5: before that was thirty one. So he's clearly the deep threat. 1435 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,280 Speaker 5: I think if there were a market to attack, it'd 1436 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 5: be under two and a half receptions. I haven't seen 1437 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 5: it posted anywhere, but I'm assuming the market will be 1438 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 5: about like two and a half receptions. I think I'll 1439 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 5: go on the under on that. But again, I'm sort 1440 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 5: of waiting for the Tyler Higbee news. I think if 1441 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 5: if Higby's playing it, I'll be a little bit more 1442 01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 5: comfortable attacking Van Jefferson's under. Although Kendill Blant last week 1443 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 5: did look pretty good. He saw a target on fifty 1444 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,440 Speaker 5: of his routes. I think it was so it's you know, 1445 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 5: it's one of those things where I'm gonna wait and see, 1446 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,680 Speaker 5: but I think I'll probably attack Van Jerffer since undertwo 1447 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:13,480 Speaker 5: and a half receptions. 1448 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:14,040 Speaker 4: What about you? 1449 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's minus one thirty. 1450 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,760 Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't touch the receptions. I think I 1451 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 3: would lean over on the yardage. I just like, it's 1452 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,800 Speaker 3: just I just think these last few games, you know, 1453 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,680 Speaker 3: given the underlying usage, it's like it's just kind of 1454 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 3: a variance, right, It's like, yes, obviously the games are 1455 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 3: getting more important, maybe he's getting targeted little less, but 1456 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 3: my numbers are still coming out, you know, well above that, 1457 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 3: and he could still get it on one catch, so exactly, 1458 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 3: And this is the type of you know, you have 1459 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,639 Speaker 3: two weeks to scheme, right, It's like you're gonna try 1460 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 3: to shut down the top guys anyway. So I mean 1461 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,360 Speaker 3: there could be an opportunity for him. So that's the 1462 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 3: way I mean, I don't know. Again, like there is 1463 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,960 Speaker 3: a lot of variants either way, and I don't like 1464 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,639 Speaker 3: taking overs. So you know, obviously check out the Action 1465 01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,439 Speaker 3: Network AP at Chris raybaon and you're at at the 1466 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 3: underscods maker you can see what we end up doing here. 1467 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:04,839 Speaker 2: But I would lean over. 1468 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 3: And another guy stick with the receivers because this one 1469 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:10,719 Speaker 3: caught my eye too. 1470 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 2: Odell Beckham's been amazing for the Rams. 1471 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:17,559 Speaker 3: Great pickup his number for receiving yardage at bet MGM 1472 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 3: sixty four and a half. I'm looking at our projection 1473 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 3: sheet for Action Network and both of us are under that. 1474 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 3: Is that something you'd be willing to go under it? 1475 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,360 Speaker 3: I think it's a little high, but at the same time, 1476 01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 3: it feels kind of dangerous because I know he's been 1477 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,719 Speaker 3: waiting forever for this too. It's like kind of like Ramsey. 1478 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,720 Speaker 3: It's like this is his moment to shine. So I mean, 1479 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,320 Speaker 3: where are you on the beckup because I think that's 1480 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,559 Speaker 3: gonna be another popular one that people are looking to bet, 1481 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:44,799 Speaker 3: you know, one way or another. 1482 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, So last week I had the over I think 1483 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,400 Speaker 5: I was fifty five and a half yards cashed easily. 1484 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:51,840 Speaker 4: I am on the under here. 1485 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 5: I think it's one of those prosphere it's probably gonna 1486 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,320 Speaker 5: only go up, so I'm gonna wait. Yeah, but I 1487 01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,640 Speaker 5: like the underyard, but I might attack the under receptions. 1488 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,600 Speaker 5: Right now, it's five and a half on MGM the 1489 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 5: owners minus one forty five. There might be more value 1490 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,360 Speaker 5: in that market because I could see him, you know, 1491 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,200 Speaker 5: catching a deep baller two in this game. But I 1492 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,120 Speaker 5: think it's gonna be tough for him to clear six receptions, 1493 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:19,160 Speaker 5: So I think I'm eyeing their receptions props specifically. Again, 1494 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,760 Speaker 5: this is Cooper cups offense. He's he's such a target hog. 1495 01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,719 Speaker 5: It could be even more extreme in the Super Bowl. 1496 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,720 Speaker 5: So I think that, yeah, it's a good time to 1497 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,679 Speaker 5: kind of like sell high on Beckham just because his 1498 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,880 Speaker 5: market's pretty inflated here. So I think I will be 1499 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,599 Speaker 5: on the under on Beckham here. 1500 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, i'vet at four point seven receptions. That's a good call. 1501 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 3: So like even if you bump, you say, you say, really, 1502 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,920 Speaker 3: the media is probably closer to four and a half yep, 1503 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 3: five at most, and. 1504 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,160 Speaker 2: We're still winning that bet. So yeah, that's a good call. 1505 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 5: And just a half a reception in this range is 1506 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 5: it's massive, So even though it's minus one forty five its, 1507 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,840 Speaker 5: it's probably worth maybe like minus one eighty given our projections. 1508 01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 5: So yeah, the value we're getting there. 1509 01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,720 Speaker 2: One more interesting one. So this went up while we 1510 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 2: were recording, so I have to throw this in here. 1511 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,559 Speaker 3: When I looked at Jamar Chase's rushing prop a few 1512 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,840 Speaker 3: you know, as we started the show, it was three 1513 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:13,320 Speaker 3: and a half. 1514 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,960 Speaker 2: It's now up to four and a half at vet MGM. 1515 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,599 Speaker 3: I know we both do project our rushing numbers even 1516 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:22,800 Speaker 3: four wide receivers. 1517 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:27,280 Speaker 2: Where are you Jamar Chase rushing yardage. 1518 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I it's probably gonna be four, exactly right, 1519 01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 5: So I have him one rush attempt projecting for one 1520 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,760 Speaker 5: rush attempt. I mean, it's a Super Bowl, so maybe 1521 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,599 Speaker 5: they draw up a couple rush attempt So if anything, 1522 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 5: I would lean on the over here. 1523 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:43,719 Speaker 4: But given he's. 1524 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:47,479 Speaker 5: Gonna see one rush attempt, let's say he's averaging four 1525 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,240 Speaker 5: point eight yards and attempt this year, so he's basically 1526 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 5: running back, and the median for running back per attempt 1527 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,360 Speaker 5: is about three and a half. So I, now there's 1528 01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 5: been you said it was at three and a half, 1529 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 5: and that's four and a half. I'd probably lean on 1530 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 5: the under here just because it's like four is probably 1531 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 5: the mode on this, Like it's most likely going to 1532 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 5: be four. So I like the over three and a 1533 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,040 Speaker 5: half in under four and a half, that's how close 1534 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:11,840 Speaker 5: my production is. 1535 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough because so here's what I noticed, and 1536 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:16,680 Speaker 3: I have it right at four and a half is 1537 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 3: like the median, So I'm kind of torn. I would 1538 01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 3: have gone over at three and a half. But five 1539 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 3: games in the regular season he had a rush attempt. 1540 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,800 Speaker 3: He's had a rush attempt in every postseason game, including 1541 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,800 Speaker 3: three rush attempts in the wild card. However, he had 1542 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 3: one in the Divisional and one in the Conference championship, 1543 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 3: and both of them went under four and a half, 1544 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:39,880 Speaker 3: so they it was a two yard run and a 1545 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 3: three yard run, so it's really tricky. I think it's 1546 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,120 Speaker 3: a good line. I think it's warrant. I think three 1547 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 3: and a half was too easy, though. I think I 1548 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,760 Speaker 3: think there's a really good chance he gets one and 1549 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,360 Speaker 3: probably at this point better than a fifty to fifty 1550 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 3: pence he gets two, So I think I think it 1551 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,479 Speaker 3: was smart to bump it up over what the average 1552 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 3: you know, rushing attempt for him is probably going to be. 1553 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 3: So so yeah, I think it's a line. But you know, 1554 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:02,599 Speaker 3: if you can maybe find a three and a half 1555 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,160 Speaker 3: out there, oh yeah, I think that would be Again, 1556 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,320 Speaker 3: as you always say, one yard is worth a massive 1557 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,760 Speaker 3: amount of value in in a market like this when 1558 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 3: you know it's like the difference between three and four. 1559 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, market like this is probably worth like twenty percent. 1560 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 5: So that's why I can go from liking the over 1561 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,679 Speaker 5: to the under just by one yard, So it's massive. Yeah, 1562 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,400 Speaker 5: if you can get a three and a half out there, 1563 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:24,479 Speaker 5: I would definitely take the over. 1564 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,160 Speaker 3: Okay, and then and then one more question for you 1565 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,760 Speaker 3: on player props before we jump into some little more 1566 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:31,800 Speaker 3: exotic props. 1567 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:32,160 Speaker 5: Uh. 1568 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 3: These kind of versus battles here where it's like one 1569 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,960 Speaker 3: player versus another, anything stick out to you in those markets? Uh? 1570 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,519 Speaker 5: The one that does stick out is probably the Joe 1571 01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:47,679 Speaker 5: Mixon minus one thirty versus Cam Akers. I mean, both 1572 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,280 Speaker 5: backs have identical projections. If you look at the market, 1573 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,839 Speaker 5: they're right around, you know, sixty two and half three yards. However, 1574 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 5: you know we've already talked about it. Samajp Ran and 1575 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,880 Speaker 5: Chris Evans might not even get a carry in this game. 1576 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,040 Speaker 5: So Joe Mixon has a very high floor. He's going 1577 01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,439 Speaker 5: to get pretty much every single rush attempt out of 1578 01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,759 Speaker 5: the backfield. Whereas cam Akers, you know, he has Sony 1579 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,640 Speaker 5: Michelle behind him, Darryl Henderson's back. Maybe they give him 1580 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,280 Speaker 5: a carry, but just cam Akers says, a little bit 1581 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,200 Speaker 5: lower of a floor. So a market like this, where 1582 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 5: it's head to head, I'm going to lean Joe Mixon 1583 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,719 Speaker 5: all the way. So I do like him minus one thirty. However, 1584 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,599 Speaker 5: there's the other market where who will lead the game 1585 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,479 Speaker 5: in rushing yards? You can get a guy like Cam Akers, 1586 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,280 Speaker 5: who probably has a higher stealing at plus one ten. 1587 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,840 Speaker 5: So depending on which guy you like, you would have 1588 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,599 Speaker 5: to you know, pick and choose the market. So if 1589 01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:40,160 Speaker 5: you do like Acres, attack the market where you know 1590 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 5: you can get him to lead the game in rushing 1591 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,960 Speaker 5: because again, the rams are favored, He's he's more likely 1592 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,320 Speaker 5: to get you know, twenty plus rush attempts. But I 1593 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,080 Speaker 5: think the head to head battle, the higher floor is 1594 01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 5: going to win every time. So give me Joe Mixon 1595 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:53,439 Speaker 5: at minus one thirty in that matchup. 1596 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that call too, Like go Acres for 1597 01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,679 Speaker 3: like a longer shot. But just in terms of betting 1598 01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,479 Speaker 3: on their medians, I think Mixing has a clear edge 1599 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,800 Speaker 3: because yeah, I have him for about like eighty six 1600 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,120 Speaker 3: percent of the backfield carries, where Akers I have him 1601 01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 3: closer to sixty eight percent. So that's like a twenty 1602 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,640 Speaker 3: percent difference. And you know carries you're just gonna kind 1603 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 3: of stay four yards of carry, give or take, you know, regardless, 1604 01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:18,280 Speaker 3: So well the maybe three yards right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1605 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,760 Speaker 3: I do lean under on the rushing yardage props. I 1606 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,960 Speaker 3: should say that not the most fun thing to bet, 1607 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,400 Speaker 3: you know, I'll stick with my p Ryan under here 1608 01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 3: get the rushing plus receiving, but I will say that 1609 01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 3: I am leaning under on both of the on the 1610 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 3: running backs as well. 1611 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:34,639 Speaker 2: All right, so we'll. 1612 01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,759 Speaker 3: Close out with some exotic props, but just want to recap. 1613 01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,840 Speaker 3: Sean likes Joe Burrow over two hundred and seventy one 1614 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,400 Speaker 3: and a half passing yards, T Higgins over sixty seven 1615 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:46,840 Speaker 3: and a half rushing yards, and Joe Mixon to have 1616 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,680 Speaker 3: more yardage on the ground than Cam Akers at minus 1617 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,600 Speaker 3: one thirty. I like Matthew Stafford under five and a 1618 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,560 Speaker 3: half rushing yards and Joe Mixon over sixteen and a 1619 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,840 Speaker 3: half rushing attempts. We're both pretty much in line with 1620 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,720 Speaker 3: Cooper Cups receiving yards total at one oh five and 1621 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 3: a half, a little bit under on Jamar Chase at 1622 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,240 Speaker 3: seventy eight and a half, a little bit under on 1623 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,280 Speaker 3: Odell Beckham at the five and a half receptions in 1624 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:19,439 Speaker 3: the sixty four and a half yards, and probably leading 1625 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 3: over on Boyd and Van Jefferson, but a lot of 1626 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,880 Speaker 3: variants there. And Sean does like the under on Jefferson's 1627 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:31,280 Speaker 3: receptions at two and a half, but more more confident 1628 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,280 Speaker 3: once we get the news of exactly who's in and 1629 01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 3: out at tight end for each team. All right, let's 1630 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 3: talk penalties, let's talk defense specialty, let's talk these kind 1631 01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,600 Speaker 3: of exotic props here, Sean, I know you do a 1632 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,800 Speaker 3: lot of work on penalties. You actually told me about 1633 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,599 Speaker 3: a penalty site that I didn't know existed for penalty data, 1634 01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:55,639 Speaker 3: so I was loving that. I appreciate that, But yeah, 1635 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 3: what do you got here in terms of penalty props? 1636 01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:02,720 Speaker 5: So yeah, the website NFL penalties dot com. And the 1637 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 5: first pealty prop that you should look out for is 1638 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,040 Speaker 5: the first team to be penalized for p I. 1639 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:09,280 Speaker 4: To pass interference. 1640 01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 5: You know it's going to be a pick them at 1641 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,439 Speaker 5: most books, but you know, get the Bengals at minus 1642 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 5: one fifteen for that. 1643 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 4: And the Rams. 1644 01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 5: You know, they only committed four past interference calls all season, 1645 01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,080 Speaker 5: which is by far the lowest in the league, so 1646 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,720 Speaker 5: they're very disciplined. I expect that to continue through the 1647 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 5: Super Bowl. Whereas the Bengals, you know, they're right around 1648 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,720 Speaker 5: league average. They had nine PI calls this season. The 1649 01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,280 Speaker 5: average is nine and a half on the season. So 1650 01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,160 Speaker 5: I think in a situation like this, give me the 1651 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 5: Bengals to be the first team to be palaies for 1652 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:43,639 Speaker 5: minus one fifteen. 1653 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean Rams are also kind of the 1654 01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,840 Speaker 3: home team, so you know, as that whole you know 1655 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,080 Speaker 3: element could come into place. So I like that one 1656 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:53,679 Speaker 3: any other ones here for penalty? 1657 01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:54,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1658 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,840 Speaker 5: So the other one is that there won't be a 1659 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,639 Speaker 5: roughing the pastor call. You know, prices are going to vary, 1660 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,800 Speaker 5: but I'm looking for about minus one thirty to lock 1661 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,080 Speaker 5: in here. Both teams were below average in terms of 1662 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 5: committing a roughing the passer penalty. The Rams only committed 1663 01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 5: roughing the passer call on five of twenty games, and 1664 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,640 Speaker 5: the Bengals only committed at roughing the passive call on 1665 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,040 Speaker 5: three of twenty games. So those are pretty low compared 1666 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 5: to the league average. Plus the head ref of the 1667 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,400 Speaker 5: Super Bowl, I think they might have a like a 1668 01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,320 Speaker 5: variety for the crew. But the head ref is Ron Corbert, 1669 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,959 Speaker 5: who ranked thirteenth out of seventeen in terms of penalties 1670 01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,880 Speaker 5: per game at ten point three. So it all adds 1671 01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,479 Speaker 5: up to about sixty four percent chance that there won't 1672 01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,519 Speaker 5: be a roughing the pastor call. That was sort of 1673 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,640 Speaker 5: the you know, back of the napkin math here. So 1674 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,360 Speaker 5: love if you get no roughing the pastor penalty at 1675 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:51,120 Speaker 5: minus one thirty. 1676 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that, And I mean I think you 1677 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,599 Speaker 3: worry about the Rams a little more though. I mean, 1678 01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,840 Speaker 3: they missed one on Stafford last week, right, so maybe 1679 01:18:58,840 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 3: they looking out for. 1680 01:18:59,560 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 4: A bit more. 1681 01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,760 Speaker 2: But the Bengals are just not a very penalized team. 1682 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,280 Speaker 3: I believe they were the weast penalized I could be running, 1683 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:05,200 Speaker 3: but they're among the league. 1684 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:06,080 Speaker 2: They're not very. 1685 01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,920 Speaker 3: Penalized at all. Are the artist Cincinnati Bengos. So you 1686 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,800 Speaker 3: don't expect them to just kind of tee off in 1687 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:12,479 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. 1688 01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:13,639 Speaker 4: All right. 1689 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,680 Speaker 3: So yeah, Seanake's first PI for Cincinnati at minus one 1690 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,519 Speaker 3: fifteen and no roughing the passer call in the game 1691 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,880 Speaker 3: at minus one thirty. Let's talk about some defense and 1692 01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,880 Speaker 3: special teams props, Shawn, I know you had your eye 1693 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 3: on shortest field goal. 1694 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:35,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I already covered the punter props again. We're 1695 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,519 Speaker 5: looking for more markets there. I'll I'll have more bets 1696 01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,320 Speaker 5: on those potentially on Action Network dot com. But the 1697 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,280 Speaker 5: the other one that stuck out to me is the 1698 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,960 Speaker 5: shortest Bigal made the Lions twenty seven and a half. 1699 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:48,479 Speaker 4: Right now. 1700 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,160 Speaker 5: Of course, of course I had to run a stimulator 1701 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,519 Speaker 5: on this. I got a Media and culture to thirty 1702 01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,120 Speaker 5: three with a seventy percent chance that this goes over. 1703 01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,040 Speaker 5: So and that's factoring the chance that there won't be 1704 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,120 Speaker 5: a field goal in the game. In that case, you'd 1705 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,760 Speaker 5: get your money back the bet would be avoided, SOY 1706 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,680 Speaker 5: factor that as well. But you know, I have this 1707 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,439 Speaker 5: a closer to a seventy percent chance it's over two 1708 01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,960 Speaker 5: really really good kickers here, But I think what's to 1709 01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,559 Speaker 5: get closer to the red zone. These offenses are too good, 1710 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,080 Speaker 5: they'll they'll punch it in. So I have I love 1711 01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 5: the shortest figel made going over twenty seven and a 1712 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:27,479 Speaker 5: half yards. Love it is that it for defense, special teams. Yeah, 1713 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,120 Speaker 5: that's it for now. Again, more markets could pop up, 1714 01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,320 Speaker 5: like you'll see combined field goal yardage. I might find 1715 01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,120 Speaker 5: some value there, but I have everything built and seat 1716 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,080 Speaker 5: up to kind of tackle those as they pop up. 1717 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:40,160 Speaker 4: All right, I. 1718 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,960 Speaker 3: Guess we'll close it out with one last one that 1719 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:44,639 Speaker 3: I wanted. 1720 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:45,040 Speaker 2: To talk about. 1721 01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,960 Speaker 3: Curious to see if you have any opinion on this, 1722 01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,479 Speaker 3: But it's another toss up one, or at least it 1723 01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:54,880 Speaker 3: should be. But first team to use a challenge, so 1724 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 3: you were in on the time out, first team to 1725 01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,000 Speaker 3: call a time out with McVeigh. 1726 01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,799 Speaker 2: Any thoughts on first to use a coaches challenge? 1727 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,839 Speaker 5: I have no thoughts whatsoever. Again, these are markets I 1728 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,160 Speaker 5: rarely tackle, but I thought there was an edge with 1729 01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:09,719 Speaker 5: the timeout. 1730 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,240 Speaker 4: I'm guessing you do have an edge for this on that. 1731 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just based on the numbers. Since Dak 1732 01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:19,080 Speaker 3: Taylor came into the league, he has twenty two challenges 1733 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,439 Speaker 3: to Sean mcvay's sixteen in regular season games to give 1734 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,640 Speaker 3: it even playing field. So that's I mean, that's a 1735 01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,719 Speaker 3: pretty big difference, you know, over a three year period. 1736 01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,080 Speaker 3: So that's how I was laughing because I'm like, Sean 1737 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,640 Speaker 3: McVay manages to burn all these time out He's not 1738 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,120 Speaker 3: even a guy that like challenges a ton, Right, So 1739 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,080 Speaker 3: I think Cincinnati is a solid bet, you know, minus 1740 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,000 Speaker 3: one fifteen, kind of a fun one here that you 1741 01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,720 Speaker 3: have better better than the odds chance of hitting here, 1742 01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 3: just given that, you know, Taylor's been much more likely 1743 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:54,880 Speaker 3: to challenge than has McVeigh. So yeah, first coaches challenge, 1744 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,640 Speaker 3: Dak Taylor, first time out, Sean McVay, how we're doing it? 1745 01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,640 Speaker 4: Love it all? 1746 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,400 Speaker 3: Right? Dad is going to do it for our Super 1747 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:10,839 Speaker 3: Bowl fifty six Propapalooza episode Odds courtesy of bet MGM. 1748 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,120 Speaker 3: You can find all of our betting content for the 1749 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:18,400 Speaker 3: Super Bowl at actionnetwork dot com and in the free, 1750 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,160 Speaker 3: award winning Action Network app, which guts you track every 1751 01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,120 Speaker 3: bet that you make, as well as follow all the 1752 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,120 Speaker 3: bets that we make, including our props. Shawn's at the 1753 01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:31,760 Speaker 3: Underscore Odds Maker, I'm at Chris Raybon R y b 1754 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,680 Speaker 3: O N, and you can find us on Twitter at 1755 01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 3: those same handles. Be sure to leave us a five 1756 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:42,200 Speaker 3: star rating review on Apple or Spotify. Stuck and I 1757 01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,760 Speaker 3: will be back next week at the regular time to 1758 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,840 Speaker 3: break down the Super Bowl and give our final Super 1759 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,519 Speaker 3: Bowl six pack, so stay tuned for that. Also check 1760 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,600 Speaker 3: out the Favorites podcast Shawn and I will be on 1761 01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,080 Speaker 3: to talk more props, and also be sure to check 1762 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,960 Speaker 3: out the Favorites podcast. Shawn and I will be on 1763 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,200 Speaker 3: that to talk more prop as well. 1764 01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:03,719 Speaker 2: Until next time, let's get this money