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Speaker 2: Final Hour on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Nuts

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Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show. One million, one hundred and ninety three

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Happy Bobby Bonia Day, Another paycheck from the

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Speaker 2: New York Mets. The gift that keeps on giving, and

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Speaker 2: each July first through twenty thirty five, he gets one million,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety three thousand from the New York Mets.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations Bobby. That's a pretty good deal though by a

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Speaker 2: Bobby bo Now. I don't know what the deal was initially,

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Speaker 2: but to get it extended that far out and to

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Speaker 2: get those checks one point one million, almost one point

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Speaker 2: two million every year for the next ten years gues poning.

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Speaker 3: It was nineteen ninety nine and the Mets had to

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Speaker 3: get out of Bobby Bonia's contract. They owed him just

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Speaker 3: under six million dollars and they had to do it

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Speaker 3: immediately to get it off the books so they could

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Speaker 3: go after I think Mike Musina the picture and it

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Speaker 3: precluded them. The agent for Benia knew that they knew

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Speaker 3: they had to and created a payment plan of about

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Speaker 3: one point one to nine million dollars to be deferred

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Speaker 3: until twenty thirty five, but payments every year from two

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Speaker 3: thousand to twenty thirty five, and it gathers interest, so

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Speaker 3: it goes up a little bit each year.

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Speaker 2: So he got thirty five million dollars forty million dollars

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Speaker 2: based off of six million dollars.

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: They owed him six million, they deferred it, and they've

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Speaker 2: been paying him, and we'll pay him to twenty thirty five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be about thirty two million dollars with the

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Speaker 3: ups and downs in it.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty, final hour here, we'll talk to Bobby Marks ESPN

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Speaker 2: Front office insider. We'll talk about some of the moves

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Speaker 2: that were made NBA free agency. No major move, but

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Speaker 2: I think there was a lot of good moves, moves

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Speaker 2: that are really interesting. The Rockets and the Hawks I

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Speaker 2: think got better. I like what Denver did. They got

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Speaker 2: rid of Porter and you bring in Cam Johnson, who, yes,

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Speaker 2: is two years older, but makes about seventeen million less.

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Speaker 2: That means Denver's probably got another move in there. And

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Speaker 2: we keep looking around going okay, are the Knicks going

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Speaker 2: to get a coach? When do they get a coach?

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Speaker 2: And are the Lakers going to get.

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Speaker 4: A big men.

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Speaker 2: That seems to be some unanswered questions. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Giannis is going to be moved. He's probably trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out, Okay, what is their grand plan? If you

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Speaker 2: want to keep me, what are you going to do?

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Speaker 2: What can you do? And you don't have Dame Lillard,

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Speaker 2: I just don't know if you have enough. Even though

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Speaker 2: the east is wide open. The Lebron James whatever, Rich

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Speaker 2: Paul is agent the word salad there of let's think

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Speaker 2: about now, not necessarily the few sure, but he's going

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Speaker 2: to op back in, but doesn't feel like he's happy.

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Speaker 2: Just see what Bobby Marks is gonna How does he

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Speaker 2: interpret what was said there or not said by Lebron

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Speaker 2: James's camp. Stat of the Day is always brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program.

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Speaker 2: We mentioned this yesterday, I mentioned it again next Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Celebrity Jeopardy, Celebrity Family Feude, Celebrity family Feude. Well, we

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Speaker 2: wouldn't do well in Celebrity Jeopardy.

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Speaker 4: Now we wouldn't do.

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Speaker 2: Well Celebrity family Feud. Though I can't tell you how

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Speaker 2: well or how poorly we did. I will say it's

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Speaker 2: all about content. Yes, see multiple choice, we got a

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Speaker 2: better chance there. Yes, we definitely better chance at multiple choice. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing with Jeopardy and you got to buzz

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Speaker 2: in and it's it's you know, timing and and plus

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Speaker 2: you have to be smart too, you know. Oh yeah, quick,

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Speaker 2: got I mean, is apparently the smartest person in the room.

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Speaker 5: What is paramesium?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 5: What is the larval stage?

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Speaker 4: Oh so sorryoopoo?

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Speaker 6: What is covalent bonding fines?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have the highest grade point average here and

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Speaker 2: you graduated second and here.

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Speaker 6: And once again shows it how street spots versus a

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Speaker 6: memorizing things in a book way that gets you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I would love a piece of fellow sports media

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Speaker 3: people in Jeopardy. I don't know if I have the

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Speaker 3: celebrity part of it, but I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: can get on because of that reason. But Jeopardy is

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Speaker 3: the timing of it is almost more important than your knowledge.

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Speaker 3: You hosted it, you know, it's mostly timing, mostly time.

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Speaker 3: I mean you didn't need the answers as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I had read that in the original Jeopardy they

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Speaker 2: Sports Jeopardy was great, but I probably knew seventy five,

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Speaker 2: maybe eighty percent of the clues. There were some people

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Speaker 2: that were really really shark you know, so when you

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Speaker 2: buzz in, you're good to go. Think you got to

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Speaker 2: have that answer. And it was challenging. It was fun.

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed that. I love doing that. All Righty,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know this, but Nico Harrison, the MAVs GM

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Speaker 2: now is letting people know. You get to see the

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Speaker 2: vision that he saw with the Dallas Mavericks. So it

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Speaker 2: starts with the question and then here's Nico Harrison, the

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Speaker 2: MAVs general manager.

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Speaker 7: Your relationship with the fans after everything this past season.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so. I think I think it will help.

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Speaker 8: Most importantly, I think it just you know, we're in

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Speaker 8: win now modes. We have a really good team, and

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Speaker 8: Cooper adds to that. So I think the fans finally

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Speaker 8: start to see the vision.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the plan wasn't to win the lottery. If they

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Speaker 2: win a play in game, they're not in the lottery.

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Speaker 2: If I'm Nico Harrison, you can take a victory lamp,

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Speaker 2: but do it in a way that doesn't make it

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Speaker 2: seem like you deserve all the credit because you guys

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Speaker 2: didn't make the playoffs, you had injuries, you traded away Luca,

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Speaker 2: and you lucked into Cooper Flag. That's not exactly a

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Speaker 2: vision here, because if you win one more game, you're

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Speaker 2: not even in the lottery. What is your vision after that?

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Speaker 2: Can he just say, We've been very fortunate, you know,

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Speaker 2: tough to trade Luca. I like what we got in return.

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Speaker 2: I truly believe in that type of team winning championships

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Speaker 2: playing defense, and we get Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 4: We lucked into that.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're very fortunate, and you know what, We're

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Speaker 2: not going to have Kyrie for the first half of

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Speaker 2: the season, but we get D'Angelo Russell. He'll be, you know,

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Speaker 2: a capable filling for him, and I think the second

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Speaker 2: half of the season. People then can see the vision

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Speaker 2: of what I think is going to win championships here

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Suton, it would.

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Speaker 9: Be worse though if he was like, whoo, got lucky

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Speaker 9: with that one. I'd rather be lucky than good any day, right, But.

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Speaker 2: That's the truth of it, Like he did luck out,

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Speaker 2: there's no vision to get Cooper Flag for d Chess.

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Speaker 4: He's playing for d Chess. You just can't see it

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Speaker 5: He can't.

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Speaker 4: You're right, I did not see this.

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Speaker 2: I did not get the vision, and my eyesight's a

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Speaker 2: little spotty, yes, PAULI.

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Speaker 3: So for Nico Harrison, he basically has to hold his

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Speaker 3: breath the next five six years that the Lakers led

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Speaker 3: by Luca don't win a title. Yeah, until that happens,

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Speaker 3: he still got a benefit of doubt on his side

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Speaker 3: a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But only if the Lakers win a title.

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Speaker 3: It's over for him. If the Lakers win a title, and.

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Speaker 4: Because what if Luca is the MVP next season and.

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Speaker 3: They don't win anything, Yeah, he's still in the clear

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Speaker 3: because if this was about Luca, right, but it's Sophy's.

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Speaker 2: Just going to prove I'm the best player in this sport.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna win the MVP. That refutes what Nico Harrison

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Speaker 2: thought about him, that he was out of shape.

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Speaker 5: And he comes in jacked.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's just he's gonna lose weight. You're not gonna

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Speaker 2: be jacked. He's just gonna be in shape, I think.

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Speaker 2: But I would think now, granted you win a title,

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Speaker 2: that's one thing, But if you win the MVP, he

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Speaker 2: bet against Luca. Now he's also going to say, well,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we want somebody who's going to play defense. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of great players in the history

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Speaker 2: of the NBA who they played defense by outscoring you

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Speaker 2: on offense. Like I got my thirty five and you

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Speaker 2: got eighteen.

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Speaker 4: I think I won.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it is possible that five years from now down

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Speaker 9: the line, Yeah, this trade doesn't look bad. How if

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Speaker 9: Luca doesn't do the things you were just talking.

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Speaker 2: About, So, if he doesn't take care of himself, if

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Speaker 2: Luca remains Luca that we saw the last couple of

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Speaker 2: years in Dallas, correct, Okay, because now it's going to

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Speaker 2: be his team probably after next season.

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Speaker 4: Lebron gone, it's a big stage to not be the guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: people are expecting.

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Speaker 2: Far more members of the media covering everything you do

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. We're in Dallas, probably a little more

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Speaker 2: user friendly. But Nico should not. I mean, it's embarrassing

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Speaker 2: for him to talk about a vision.

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Speaker 2: If I took away Cooper flag and they had the

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Speaker 2: thirteenth pick in the first round, would he be telling

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Speaker 4: And the answer is no, he would not. The vision.

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Speaker 4: It's essentially a new trust the process.

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Speaker 2: It's like if the Niners don't get brock Purdy after

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Speaker 2: you know, screwing it up with Trey Lan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where you can go. Yeah, you see the

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Speaker 4: vision we got here.

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Speaker 9: See it's trust the process. The new is see the

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Speaker 9: vision they got. They got bailed out.

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Speaker 2: John Lynch got bailed out big time there, Like that

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Speaker 2: guy is our future. We're going all in. We're going

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Speaker 2: up to get Trey Lance. But you see the vision

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Speaker 2: of the drat and league. Come on, there's no vision there.

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Speaker 2: That's where Niko Okay, I'm I'm glad that he feels

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Speaker 2: safe now that fans aren't maybe as angry as they

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Speaker 2: were because they have Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 4: I understand that, But don't take a victory lap on

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Speaker 4: the vision here. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's also hard not to.

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Speaker 3: You're excited that you got bailed out with Cooper Flag

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Speaker 3: and you don't want to rub it in. But the

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Speaker 3: one thing you can never do Nico Harrison is ever

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Speaker 3: admit that he got it wrong. He has to hold

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Speaker 3: with this stance in every interview. Does with the trade

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Speaker 3: of Luca.

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Speaker 2: We're Also, it's been a busy show, been all over

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Speaker 2: the place. You've come to expect that. I brought up

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Speaker 2: the hurry. We were talking about TJ. Watt and Trey

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Speaker 2: Hendrickson and Sachs, and I want a guy who's gonna

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Speaker 2: lead the league in hurries. Well, there's not really a

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Speaker 2: definition on a hurry, and they don't keep official stats.

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Speaker 2: I had Todd reach out to the NFL. They get

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Speaker 2: back to you on the hurry. Not just all right,

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Speaker 2: So how's this? A hurry is when a defensive player

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Speaker 2: causes the quarterback to pull the ball down, scramble, or

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Speaker 2: throw the ball early.

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Speaker 4: Just one sentence there.

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Speaker 2: Dylan in Orlando, Hi Dyll, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 10: Hey Dan, I think of the nick of my call again.

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Speaker 10: Group group group. Well done, guys, Jesus bless you think

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Speaker 4: Thank you? Dylan Matt in California, Hi Matt, what's on

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Speaker 12: What for.

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Speaker 13: Mister Patrick Dan, that's loved the show. Going back to

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Speaker 2: if that explains it. Let's see, we'll take a break

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Speaker 2: here seating. Do we have a poll question for the

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Speaker 9: Worst Day Yesterday okay, Lakers Yannis or the Nets. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Okay eight seven seven to three.

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Speaker 2: DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com.

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Speaker 2: The free agent center Miles Turner is on the move.

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Speaker 2: He's joining the Milwaukee Bucks. Four years, one hundred and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, This just in a minute ago from Shams Sharani

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Speaker 3: of ESPN. The Milwaukee Bucks are waving Damian Lillard and

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Speaker 2: Wow. All right, well, good time to talk to the

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Speaker 2: NBA front office insigner Bobby Marks will join.

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Speaker 4: Us next year on the Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: You're just joining us. The breaking news Miles Turner leaving

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Speaker 2: the Pacers a four year, one hundred and seven million

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Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Bucks are going to wave Dame Lillard? Is

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Speaker 2: that the official wording on that, Marvin that they're going

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Speaker 2: to wave Dame Lillard?

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Speaker 2: Bobby Marks, ESPN, NBA Front Office Insider, regular contributor to

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Speaker 14: have this that we call it the non tax fourteen

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Speaker 14: million dollars to go out and spend. DeAndre Ayton is

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Speaker 14: the best available out there. I would think the market

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Speaker 14: for DeAndre Ayton gets a little bit better.

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Speaker 12: It had cooled off a little bit.

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Speaker 14: We thought maybe the Lakers were linked to him, and

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Speaker 14: we'll see if that plays out. But I think if

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Speaker 14: Aighton wants to go to Indiana, that would probably be the.

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Speaker 12: Better fit for him.

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Speaker 14: But it is a tough blow for Indiana because now

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Speaker 14: you lose two out of your five starters for next year.

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Speaker 2: But are you bringing in somebody as a temporary replacement

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Speaker 2: for Halibard.

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Speaker 12: Well, they've got TJ.

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Speaker 14: McConnell, and they have Andrew Nemhard, and they drafted. They

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Speaker 14: they went through the draft and picked up picked up

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Speaker 14: a guard there.

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Speaker 12: So I know.

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Speaker 14: I think the interesting thing Dan is the move they

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Speaker 14: made before the draft when Haliburton right in the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 14: when they were getting able to get their first round

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Speaker 14: pick back, they traded their their own pick this year

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Speaker 14: to New Orleans and got their pickback in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 12: So now that gives them.

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Speaker 14: The flexibility like they're almost kind of where like Boston

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Speaker 14: is where you're almost I don't want to say gap year,

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Speaker 14: but you're, you know, you're kind of you can kind

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Speaker 14: of pull back a little bit here and reset that

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Speaker 14: roster and still get a pretty good draft pick.

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Speaker 4: Would you move Jalen Brown if you're the Celtics.

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Speaker 14: I wouldn't because I keep on coming back to this

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Speaker 14: notion that eventually Jason Tatum's coming back. I mean, like,

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Speaker 14: and you're going to have if the goal is to

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Speaker 14: try to win, you need Jalen Brown and Derek White

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Speaker 14: around him. And it's so hard getting a player like

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Speaker 14: Brown who's a top twenty player, and you know, White

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Speaker 14: does it, you know, do everything type guy to add

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Speaker 14: to your roster and trades and free agency. I wouldn't

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Speaker 14: unless it's you know, the mothership of packages and everything

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Speaker 14: like that. I wouldn't move off off Jalen.

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Speaker 2: Brown, Bobby Marks, ESPN, NBA Front Office Insider, and NBA

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Speaker 2: Today Free Agency Special. It's three hours starting at seven

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Speaker 2: eastern tonight. Can you help me understand or translate what

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Speaker 2: Rich Paul was saying to us? And I guess the

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Speaker 2: Lakers about Lebron almost begrudgingly opting in, but hey, remember

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Speaker 2: it's about winning now, not the future.

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Speaker 14: Well, when I saw that, Dan, I had to send

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Speaker 14: it to my wife that I had said, can you

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Speaker 14: interpret this for me? Because I don't understand anything on here.

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Speaker 14: It's interesting. It's like, well, we're going to opt into

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Speaker 14: fifty three million dollars, but we want the roster to

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Speaker 14: be better and I want to when it has to

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Speaker 14: be a championship roster. Well, if you wanted to do that,

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Speaker 14: why didn't you just decline your option?

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Speaker 12: You had to pick a.

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Speaker 14: Team's I mean that would have been essentially the easiest

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Speaker 14: thing to do here. Now he's opted in there, Listen, there,

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Speaker 14: there's an incomplete for the Lakers as far as their

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Speaker 14: off season so far. I mean, they went out and

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Speaker 14: got Jake Lauravia, but they've got We've been talking since

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Speaker 14: February about getting a center. I mean, they need to

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Speaker 14: get a center, and there's no market for them outside

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Speaker 14: of Eton right now. And it's going to be interesting

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Speaker 14: the collateral damage or the impact if they don't make

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Speaker 14: significant improvements here. Because you've got Luca on one end,

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Speaker 14: who's your future, and then you have Lebron here on

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Speaker 14: the last year of a contract. Here, you're basically kind

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Speaker 14: of working on two different timelines.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to understand.

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Speaker 2: And they lose Dorian Finney Smith to the Rockets, and

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Speaker 2: I start to wonder, Okay, they're going to bring back

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Speaker 2: Austin Reeves. You think he turned down uh that extension,

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Speaker 2: but they're going to bring him back. I'm guessing. But

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Speaker 2: I just wonder what exactly is Lebron saying? And I

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Speaker 2: agree with you. I said the same thing. If you

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Speaker 2: don't like what it looks like in LA, then go

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Speaker 2: to Cleveland and win another title there. If that, if

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Speaker 2: you're not happy with this, you're not part of the future,

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Speaker 2: then you can win a championship in Cleveland with the

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Speaker 2: East wide open.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I think it would have worked maybe

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Speaker 14: five years ago. I mean, but now, as I said,

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Speaker 14: like where the Lakers are when you went out and

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Speaker 14: get you acquire Luca like he's the face of the franchise,

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Speaker 14: Like he's the face of the franchise.

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Speaker 12: They're not going to go out and.

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Speaker 14: Make a short term move to satisfy Lebron.

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Speaker 12: Like they're not going out and giving.

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Speaker 14: Up all their draft equity for a short, short term

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Speaker 14: move for a player that likely won't be on their

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Speaker 14: roster now.

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Speaker 4: But aren't the Lakers trying to win now?

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Speaker 14: Bobby, Well, that's what they're trying to kind of thread

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Speaker 14: the needle, like you're trying to thread the needle of

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Speaker 14: winning now saving your flexibility for next year.

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Speaker 12: That is it's.

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Speaker 14: Hard to do in the Western Conference, trying to do that.

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Speaker 14: The Western Conference we went through yesterday. Dallas got better

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Speaker 14: because they got D'Angel Russell as a temporary replacement for Kyrie.

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Speaker 14: Of course, Cooper fly, you go through the list, Denver,

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Speaker 14: cam Johnson, Houston, of course as far as where they're Okay,

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Speaker 14: Ce brings back everything like if you tell me right now,

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Speaker 14: is the Lakers a top five or six team in

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Speaker 14: the in the what?

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Speaker 12: I don't think they are? And we had this debate

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Speaker 12: to morning.

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Speaker 14: I would say the Dallas and Nico Harrison got criticized.

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Speaker 14: He got crucified, right, and that's rightfully so based on

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Speaker 14: the trade and what happened. But you could make the

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Speaker 14: argument that Dallas is in a better position right now

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Speaker 14: than the Los Angeles Lakers as.

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Speaker 12: Far as where they are.

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Speaker 14: And I know they got lucky with Cooper flag, but

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Speaker 14: with Cooper flag, and if they get Kyrie back in

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Speaker 14: the debt, they have with that roster. If they of course,

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Speaker 14: if they stay healthy, that they're in a better position.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hear Nico Harrison tell me about

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Speaker 2: the vision that he had, because the vision was, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I traded away Luca. People hated me, we had injuries.

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Speaker 2: If we win one more game, we're not even in

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Speaker 2: the lottery. There's no vision here. He lucked into Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 2: That's all we needed to say. Hey, I still believe

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Speaker 2: in defense. When we're healthy, we're going to be very competitive.

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Speaker 2: We lucked into the lottery and I got Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 4: That's it. But don't tell me, Hey, you see the

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Speaker 4: vision that I had, What exactly is that?

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Speaker 12: You know?

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Speaker 14: It would have been refreshing if he just went up

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Speaker 14: there and goes, man, we got lucky, I mean like

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Speaker 14: humanize it, like humanize it, right.

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Speaker 12: We would all be like, yeah, you know what, you did,

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Speaker 12: get lucky.

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Speaker 4: What do you expect out of Cooper Flag? First year?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 14: Man, I tell you I've probably told this story too

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Speaker 14: many times, but I mean I living out in Southwest Florida,

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Speaker 14: and I saw Cooper play when he was at Mount

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Speaker 14: Verd at the City of Palms Classic in Fort Myers.

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Speaker 14: This is when Cooper was sixteen, This was his senior

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Speaker 14: year in high school. And this is with Derrick Queen

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Speaker 14: and Lea McNeely and Ason Newell that team. And I

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Speaker 14: was sitting with a scout and I said that a scout,

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Speaker 14: I'm not making this up. I go, he could play

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Speaker 14: in the NBA right now sixteen.

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Speaker 12: The beauty of.

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Speaker 14: Cooper flag is not him scoring twenty two twenty three

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Speaker 14: points a game.

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Speaker 12: The beauty of Cooper Flag is defense.

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Speaker 14: I mean his defense, as far as his length, his IQ.

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Speaker 14: That's what's going to keep him in these games down

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Speaker 14: the stretch here. And I think he's he's all business.

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Speaker 14: I had an opportunity to sit down with them a

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Speaker 14: high level. But I love I love the fact that

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Speaker 14: he can come in right now and make an impact defensively.

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Speaker 2: But I also wonder how do you ease him in

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Speaker 2: to a lineup? That's do you start him?

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Speaker 12: You start him, then you have PJ.

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Speaker 14: Washington come off. That's the That's the thing with Dallas.

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Speaker 14: They got so much depth they have, you know, whether

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Speaker 14: it be PJ. Washington or Nigie Marshall or Caleb Martin.

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Speaker 14: I mean, you go, Kyrie, Clay Cooper, ad Derek Lively.

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Speaker 12: Daniel Gafford.

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Speaker 14: I mean that's kind of what you're you're looking at here.

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Speaker 14: But I do think you, I do think I mean,

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Speaker 14: Jason is talking with a kid. Is all about playing

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Speaker 14: my point a little bit here too, which is going

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Speaker 14: to be interesting here. But I do think you kind

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Speaker 14: of it's like baptism by fire.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, maybe i'd have him come in

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Speaker 4: off the bench.

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Speaker 2: He's playing against their second unit, but then you do

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Speaker 2: kind of want him surrounded a little bit there. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's he's really got the luxury of he can defer,

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Speaker 2: and nobody's going to complain if he defers, Whether if

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Speaker 2: he went to the Wizards or went to Brooklyn, I mean,

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Speaker 2: all eyes would be on him, like, all right, let

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Speaker 2: me see what you can do with Dallas. He can

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Speaker 2: attempt to blend in a little bit there.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's almost like a quarterback getting drafted with the

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Speaker 14: first pick and like basically throwing him into like on

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Speaker 14: an expansion team like we saw of I think Derek

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Speaker 14: Carr right with the Texans and you know where Cooper,

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Speaker 14: He's not going to Utah or Washington or Brooklyn one

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Speaker 14: of these teams at rebuilding you basically have all these

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Speaker 14: veterans around him that you can he's in more into

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Speaker 14: the situation.

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Speaker 4: Any big moves you're expecting.

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Speaker 14: You know, we have all these restricted free agents out there.

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Speaker 14: Jonathan KAMINGA Josh Giddy, there's a group and the problem

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Speaker 14: is there's no money out there in free agency for

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Speaker 14: a team to come in and give an offer sheet.

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Speaker 15: Here.

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Speaker 14: You know, we'll we'll see what happens on the on

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Speaker 14: the trade front free agency. You know, we had a

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Speaker 14: lot come off the.

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Speaker 12: Board on Monday. Here, we might be done by the

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Speaker 12: end of the week.

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Speaker 14: Free agency wise, it's it's the downside of the ability

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Speaker 14: to negotiate with your own players at once the finals ends.

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Speaker 2: If you were going to let's say one of your children,

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Speaker 2: you're going to show and tell bringing in my daddy's

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Speaker 2: going to explain the NBA aprons. So it's career day,

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Speaker 2: but you were going to explain it to let's.

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Speaker 4: Say fifth graders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, treat me like a fifth grader and my audience

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Speaker 2: and explain the famous NBA aprons.

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Speaker 4: That second apron here, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 12: Know, I wish we would come up with a different name. Right.

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Speaker 14: It's a it's a punitive restriction that once you exceed it, Okay,

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Speaker 14: once you exceed this level, you're all right, let's let's

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Speaker 14: all right.

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Speaker 12: I'm gonna talk like like a fifth grader.

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Speaker 14: You have a you have a toy box of toys. Okay,

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Speaker 14: you have twenty twenty of your best toys. Okay, once

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Speaker 14: you exceed this restriction this level, I'm going to go

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Speaker 14: in the toy box, Dan, and I'm gonna take fifteen

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Speaker 14: out of those toys away. But I'm still gonna give

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Speaker 14: you five of your best toys okay, but I'm taking

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Speaker 14: those other fifteen away.

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Speaker 12: Here.

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Speaker 14: Now you have less toys to play with, but they're

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Speaker 14: still pretty good. But you won't be able to add

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Speaker 14: any more toys to that here. And that's what the

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Speaker 14: league is saying. We're going to allow you to keep

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Speaker 14: your best but we're not going to allow you to

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Speaker 14: go to Golden State or to Clippers and grab their

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Speaker 14: best player. And what it does is it makes you

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Speaker 14: draft well, it makes you prioritize keeping your own players.

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Speaker 14: If you don't like Phoenix, who's been a second Apron

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Speaker 14: team and had three high level players and they don't

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Speaker 14: have they have three shiny toys, but not really anything

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Speaker 14: else good.

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Speaker 12: To that roster.

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Speaker 14: It really hurts you, like Oklahoma City's is going to be.

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Speaker 14: If they're a team that can defeat the second apron

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Speaker 14: as we call it. They're the ones that can do it.

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Speaker 14: Because if Shay che Jalen Williams four first round picks

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Speaker 14: next year, all these young players, when player, when Lou

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Speaker 14: Dort gets expensive, Kason Wallace, Mike will probably replace him

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Speaker 14: on Isaiah Hartenstein replaces him. Thomas Sorber, who they drafted,

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Speaker 14: replaces him. So you can keep on turning the wheel.

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Speaker 4: There, no thank you. Thank you for treating us as.

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Speaker 12: I've never used that. I've never used that in now

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Speaker 12: I just made that one up.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you could do it with to Greenee, you know,

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Speaker 2: because I Greenee doesn't understand the second aprin so maybe

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Speaker 2: you just treat him like a fifth grader.

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Speaker 4: Have fun tonight, Bobby, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 12: Thanks to that. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Bobby Marks, ESPN NBA Front office insider. You know sometimes

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Speaker 2: you have to say, you know, just don't give me

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Speaker 2: the legal ease, you know, whenever we have a lawyer on,

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Speaker 2: like dumb it down a little bit for me here,

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Speaker 2: Front office insider and second eight. They deal with this

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Speaker 2: all the time, common language, and then we go yeah, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 4: They Hey, you could be.

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Speaker 2: Talking about you know, the first spatula and the second

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Speaker 2: apron and uh, you know, a griddle, and I'd be like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: firstla Yeah. NBA Today Free Agency Special three hours starting

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Speaker 2: tonight at seven Eastern on the Mothership. We'll take a break,

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Speaker 2: last call for phone calls, What we learned, What's in

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Speaker 2: store tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: After this, be sure to catch the live edition of

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Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six

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Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.

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Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls, What we learn, What's in

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Speaker 2: store tomorrow. If I'm a Pacer fan, I'm proud that

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Speaker 2: we went to the NBA Finals. We took the champions

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Speaker 2: to seven games, but we lost Tyrese Haliburton. If you

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Speaker 2: win the title and you lose Tyre's Halliburton and now

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Speaker 2: you lose Miles Turner, you go, Okay, at least we

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Speaker 2: won a title, but this is tough. No Haliburton for

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Speaker 2: most of the season, and now you lose Miles Turner

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Speaker 2: to a rival in the Milwaukee Bucks.

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Speaker 4: That's a bad off.

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Speaker 2: Season. It's a bad off season. We just started July.

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Speaker 2: I like what Milwaukee did. They upgraded Brook Lopez goes

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Speaker 2: to the Clippers. You get Miles Turner, four year deal.

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Speaker 2: You're going to wave Dame Lillard. You might have the

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Speaker 2: tallest point guard in the history of the NBA, Yannis,

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Speaker 2: he might play point. I don't know who else you

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Speaker 2: got who's going to start as your point guard there,

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Speaker 2: but it might be honest. But if you had won

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Speaker 2: the title, then at least you go, Okay, we'll accept

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Speaker 2: that we got our title. But now you lose Haliburton,

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Speaker 2: and now you lose Miles Turner. Chris in La, Hi, Chris,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 4: How you doing?

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Speaker 15: Dan?

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Speaker 4: Good Sir?

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Speaker 15: I've had the pleasure in the last two summers or

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Speaker 15: springs of working with Cooper Flag out here Los Angeles.

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Speaker 15: I do NBA pre drafts out here and by far,

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Speaker 15: and I've been doing it for ten years, by far,

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Speaker 15: the hardest working kid player, whatever you want to call him,

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Speaker 15: I've ever seen. His work ethic is off the charts,

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Speaker 15: and I mean we had guys that were fighting to

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Speaker 15: get into the first round, second rounders, and he was

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Speaker 15: working harder than all of them. His work ethic is

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Speaker 15: off the charts, and I think I think he's going

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Speaker 15: to be a fantastic pro.

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Speaker 4: What was it that stood out that he needs to work.

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Speaker 15: On really not much, probably three point shooting maybe at

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Speaker 15: the least. His basketball IQ is through the roof. And

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Speaker 15: what people don't realize, he is a fantastic passer. So

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Speaker 15: when Jason Kidd said he could play point, he absolutely

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Speaker 15: could play point. He sees things before they even developed.

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Speaker 15: It's just a weird sense that he has on the

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Speaker 15: court of a player that I've never seen anything like

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Speaker 15: it before. I think the only player that I ever

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Speaker 15: saw like that was Steve Nash Cooper. Flag is his

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Speaker 15: court vision and his IQ is really off the chart.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Chris. Yeah, by all accounts, he's ready to go.

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Speaker 2: And here's Bobby Mark saying I saw him at sixteen

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Speaker 2: and thought he could play in the NBA. Size wise,

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Speaker 2: he's going to fill out. I like the fact that

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Speaker 2: he it's not that he will play defense. He likes

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Speaker 2: playing defense, and I think he's a very underrated passer.

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Speaker 2: I think the shot could be wilt well. I mean,

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Speaker 2: once again, he's eighteen. Things will get better. I just

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Speaker 2: hope that he keeps adding to his repertoire. The great

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Speaker 2: ones keep adding because as the league adjusts to you,

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Speaker 2: then you have to adjust and do something different. Very

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Speaker 2: very few guys can go, I'm going to go there

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Speaker 2: and you can't stop me. I'm going to make that

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Speaker 2: move and you can't stop me. That's not Cooper Flag,

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Speaker 2: but that you know, when somebody says, oh, he doesn't

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Speaker 2: have the bag, he does. He's got everything in it.

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Speaker 2: It's not one thing. I don't want a player who

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Speaker 2: has one thing. I you know, forget who it was.

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Speaker 2: Carmelo said, he doesn't do one thing. Great, look at

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Speaker 2: all the things he does. Really well, that's the player

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Speaker 2: I want. That's what I want. Uh Kellen in Kansas City, Hi, Kellen,

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Speaker 2: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 4: Six one, two forty.

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Speaker 14: With you?

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Speaker 13: Spoke earlier about being on like Sports Jeopardy. Besides the

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Speaker 13: show and besides Sports Center, What has been the best

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Speaker 13: side gig that you've had.

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Speaker 2: I would say with NBC Football Night in America and

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Speaker 2: doing the Olympics, those were, if you want to call

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Speaker 2: him a side gig, I mean they Football Night in

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Speaker 2: America was a full time job. It was during the

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Speaker 2: football season. Obviously, but I really enjoyed that. It was

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Speaker 2: a high end product, worked with great people. The Olympics

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Speaker 2: once again, high end product, big exposure, new challenge for me.

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Speaker 2: But Sports Jeopardy, if I could do that, do that

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Speaker 2: on a consistent basis, that would be a great retirement

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Speaker 2: plan because I could do that and have a lot

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Speaker 2: of fun, be satisfied with that. No, there's no breaking news.

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Speaker 2: No there's no I'm not oh no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: I keep trying to have them bring back Sports Jeopardy.

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Speaker 2: It just makes all the sense in the world. How

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Speaker 2: about Mothership? You know, at five o'clock every day since

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Speaker 2: you kicked around the horn of the curb, all do

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Speaker 2: Sports Jeopardy leading into Mike and Tony. I'll do that

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Speaker 2: for you. That's breaking news, Yes, Marvin damn Patrick going

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Speaker 2: back to the Mothership. Yes, all right, Well it'd be

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Speaker 2: like McAfee where they take your show and then they

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Speaker 2: put it at the mother Ship.

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Speaker 4: And then they can name a building after you.

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Speaker 9: Yes, no, then I get a statue. Then you get

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Speaker 9: a statue on top of the building.

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Speaker 2: That's what I want, a big statue on top of

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Speaker 2: the building. Todd, would you learn to.

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Speaker 4: Odds to win the NBA title next season.

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Speaker 6: Thunder plus two twenty five, way ahead of the next team,

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Speaker 6: Rockets at seven fifty seeden.

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Speaker 4: Would you learn today You're not a big statue guy.

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Speaker 2: No, not really. I've posed a lot before. Marvin Bobby

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Speaker 2: Mark's treated is like fifth graders. Yeah, I mean it

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Speaker 2: is Rodan, that's the famous statue. Yes, Paulie, what'd you learn?

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Speaker 5: SGA seventy million plus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a great day, everybody. We look forward

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Speaker 2: to chatting with you tomorrow.