1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. We have a special guest joining us 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: here in just a moment. I just want to say 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: that in the last hour we were talking about the 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: immigration fiasco at our southern border where we have we 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: had fifteen thousand or seventeen thousand Haitians gathered at one 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: point twelve thousand already let in the US. I was 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: talking to you about the backlog and immigration cases just 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: saw flashing on the screen at Fox. I had said 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: it was seven or eight hundred thousand a few years 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: ago when I was following the quarter issue very closely. 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Then I knew it was probably over a million now 13 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: one point four million backlog immigration cases right now. So 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: the people that are being led into the country, it's 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: going to take years. How long do you think that 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: will actually take? I mean, I mean it will be 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: there forever. The average right now play the average right 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: now is almost three years before the So somebody will 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: be in the country for almost three years before they 20 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: even have to appear before a judge to make their 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: bogus asylum claim, and even then they will not be removed. 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 1: The removal Ry Clay three percent. You have a ninety 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: seven percent chance of staying in the US once you 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: get into the US after pretending to be an asylum seeker. 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: So we will address this issue more later on in 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: the show third hour for sure. Also more COVID stuff 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: coming up. But we've got Jake Beckett with us now. 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: He's a former NFL player, an Army ranger deployed overseas 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: and the war zones, and now in Arkansas Senate kennidate Jake, 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us, Hey, it's great to be healthy. 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. So you're not far from the 32 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: border in your homestate of Arkansas. Jake, you heard us 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: just talking about this. What do you make of what 34 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: we've just seen going on with this massive surge of 35 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: Haitian migrants at the in del Rio, but also just 36 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: the border overall, it seems like it's wide open. Well, 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: I would even go further. I would say that we 38 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: have no Stulard order right now. It's clear the five 39 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: administration has no intention of securing our national sovereignty enforcing 40 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: our federal immigration laws. And look, if we have no border, 41 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: we have no sovereignty. We don't have a country. This 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: is a marquee issue for me in my race for 43 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: US Senate Here in Arkansas, a legal immigration is something 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: that is offensive to the entire state of arkansass who 45 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Conservatives across the country, and it has to stop for generations. 46 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: For decades, established politicians in both parties, I want to clear, 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: both Republicans and Democrats have exchanged promises of border security 48 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: for amnesty. Okay. Party leaders in both major parties have 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: made that deal for decades. It's time for it to stop. 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: We're living with the consequences. We had to send people 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: to Washington who understand this problem, who understand the nature 52 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: of the fight, to Lauren and who we are actually 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: going to build a wall, finished the wall and secure 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: our borders. It's unacceptable. Jake, what do you think about 55 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: doctor Fauci. I know you're a big Arkansas razorback fan. 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: I may get you an Arkansas razorback question in here. 57 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: You can gloat a little bit over the big wins 58 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: over Texas and Texas, A and M. But Fauci came 59 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: out and said, hey, there's gonna be major issues essentially 60 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: from college football having full stadiums since college football season started, 61 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: the overall rate of infection all over the South, all 62 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: over the SEC has plummeted. When do people stop listening 63 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: to doctor Fauci. I mean, we're it, you know, seventeen 64 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: eighteen months, whatever the heck it is now and he's 65 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: still so wrong about so much. What are you hearing 66 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: from the people in Arkansas about things like this? Well, 67 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: first of all, you're right, I am a huge fan 68 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: of the number eight Arkansas Razorbacks. I want to be clear, 69 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: We're taken on Georgia. This weekend college game is gonna 70 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: be there. You know, hopefully me and herschel Walker can 71 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: have a little back and forth about that about who's 72 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: gonna win. But you're exactly right, Doctors Founcie has no credibility. 73 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: I have no idea why any reasonable American would listen 74 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: to that man. He's been wrong on every front, and 75 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: particularly I was talking to Buck about this last week. 76 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we're seeing these pack Hollis football stadiums. It's 77 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: so great for me to see. How I was in Fatale, 78 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Arkansas two weeks ago for the Arkansas Texas game. There 79 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: were seventy five thousand screaming fans in that stadium. Of course, 80 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: founk he was predicting these would be super sprigger events 81 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: and it would be at our COVID nightmare. But of 82 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: course we've actually seen cases go down in these major 83 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: SEC football states, not up, so they're not super Spritterer events. 84 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: But we have to find a way to live with 85 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: the virus. The only way through it is through it, 86 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: and people should not look in ductor founcy for one 87 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: more single second. We're speaking of Jake Beckett, former NFL player, 88 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: Army ranger, and he is a candidate for Senate in 89 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: the Great State of Arkansas. Jake, drawing on your time 90 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: as an Army ranger serving this country overseas and going 91 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: going to war wearing the uniform, we still have reports 92 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: that there are certainly those who assisted the US military 93 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: and were promised that they would get out Afghans that 94 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: are left behind in Afghanistan. There are also reports that 95 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: I hear that there are some Americans US citizens passport 96 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: holders who are stuck in Afghanistan. What is your fun 97 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: what is your assessment as of today of the Biden 98 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: administrations last days in Afghanistan in a sense, and what 99 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: do you think we should do going forward? Well, the 100 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: Biden administrations handling of the Afghanistan debacle is a national disgrace. 101 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: It's an embarrassment, and you're exactly right, there are still 102 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: American citizens who are stranded behind them the lines at 103 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: the hands of the Taliban, a bloodthirsty medieval regime. It's 104 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: an absolute embarrassment. And I want to be clear, We've 105 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: brought in tens of thousands, perhaps even over one hundred thousand, 106 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: unvetted Ascian migrants, while we've left behind American citizens. I'm 107 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: sure you've seen their reports. There have already been three 108 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: cases that I've seen documented, one that's currently under investigation 109 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: by the FBI of some of these Afcian migrants that 110 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: are military bases committing acts of sexual assaults and rape, 111 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: including one it's under investigation of an American female service member. 112 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: That is a stain on this country. That just infuriates 113 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: me that we brought in unvetted Afghan migrants, who some 114 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: of them are child predators, and we left American citizens behind. 115 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: And let's just say nothing of the tactical and strategic 116 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: blundering that was done by this administration that resulted in 117 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: the death of thirteen brave American servicemen. It's an absolute disgrace. Jake, 118 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: you have a really interesting background. You played college football, 119 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: as we just talked about, you've served in the military, 120 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: and you also played in the NFL, and obviously sports 121 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: and politics in many ways has become intermingled. You talked 122 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: about the fact that herschel Walker is running for the 123 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: Senate in Georgia. We certainly hope he wins there. You're 124 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: running in the state of Arkansas. What's the locker room 125 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: dynamic like in your experience as it pertains to politics. 126 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: Does it stun you? I know you were with the 127 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: Patriots for several years that the NFL got as political 128 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: as it has, and even we were talking in the 129 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: last hour about the playing of the black national anthem 130 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: before the games. What are you hearing from your former 131 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: teammates and other people affiliated with the NFL about that 132 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: mix of politics and left wing sports. Well, it's very 133 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: upsetting because that was not the sports environment that I 134 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: grew up in and I played in. I've always said 135 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: that sports has been so popular, it's such a strong 136 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: part of our national identity and culture because sports at 137 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: its best represents the best of America. I mean, people 138 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: from diverse backgrounds, from different races, different classes whatever, come together. 139 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: They strive towards a common goal, and they know the 140 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: currency of a sports locker room. It's not where it 141 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: came from, it's not how much money you have, it's performance. Okay, 142 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: that's all that matters. And so I think that's one 143 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: of the reasons why Americans love sports. It represents the 144 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: best of us. And unfortunately the Democrats and the radical 145 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: as they have to tear that down, just like they've 146 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: conquered every other American institution. They saw sports in the 147 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: military as well. They saw those as kind of the 148 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: two final frontiers of American cultural institutions that just had 149 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: to be changed. And tragically it looks like they're succeeding. 150 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: But look on I'm optimistic. I think we're fighting back. 151 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm seeing these packed college stadiums in particular as an 152 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: act of defiance against this cove tiranny and excited to 153 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: see I'm excited to see candidates like herschel Walker running 154 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: in Georgia. I think people are. They're excited to see 155 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: conservatives come from non political backgrounds, come from sports backgrounds, 156 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: military backgrounds, people who didn't grow up in an age 157 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: old expectation of running for political office, because look, we 158 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: can't solve this problem, and most who have people who 159 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: come into this for the right reasons, who aren't looking 160 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: to get their name in the paper, who aren't looking 161 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: to make money off of this, who aren't looking to 162 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: make politics a career. It's got to be true public service, 163 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: sacrificial leadership. That's why I'm in that's why Herschel's in it, 164 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: and that's why you're seeing a lot of strong, young, 165 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: full of conservative candidates all over the country. We're speaking 166 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: of Jake Beckett, former NFL player and Army ranger, who's 167 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: running for Senate in Arkansas. And Jake, just one last 168 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: one for you, President Biden just got his booster live 169 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: on TV. As we were sitting here talking, it was 170 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: on the screens here at NYC. A lot of people, 171 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: I would certainly put myself in this category, are surprised 172 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: at how long the American people overall have been willing 173 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: to go along with so much of what just feels 174 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: like either COVID theatrics or COVID tyranny, combination of the two. 175 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: How do we get our freedom back? We get our 176 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: freedom back by standing up for what's right, which is 177 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: simply saying enough is enough. I think you're seeing Americans 178 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: rise up in pockets of red areas across the centry. 179 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: But it has to be a critical mass, right because 180 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: I think we're all seeing the images coming out of 181 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: places like Australia, and don't think for one second that 182 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: the Democrats and the radical left don't want to bring 183 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: that to our shores. That is their ultimate goal. We 184 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: can never ever let that happened here. We'll get It's 185 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I'm running for US Senate. 186 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: You'll can go to my website Jakebeckett dot com. Look, 187 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: it's just we have to stand up and fight back 188 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: because this is totally unacceptable and it's not going to 189 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: stop until we say it stops. Jake, I gotta say 190 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: I trust your opinion on this before we let you go. 191 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: Clay is taking me to my first ever SEC football 192 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: game this weekend. Oh Miss University Alabama. Who wins? Jake, 193 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: you're a football guy. Well, I'll tell you what. The 194 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: Arkansas Razorbacks are gonna win. That's the only game I 195 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 1: care about. Look at that, Look at that death, But 196 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 1: I think that's what do you call that move on 197 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: the football field? Clay is a spin it was good though. 198 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: I like it. Swim moves a defensive end to This 199 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: is life in the SEC. Right where number one Dama 200 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: versus number twelve Old Miss isn't even the game of 201 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: the week, all right, This is why I love that 202 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: SEC football. You get the best teams in the entire country. Look, 203 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: I think Bama is going to pull it off at 204 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: home there, but I'm looking to have my Arkansas Razorbacks 205 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: shock the world in Athens on side. 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They very memorably got their positive COVID test 234 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: in the middle of the show. They had a producer 235 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: walk out removed them from the set. They also were 236 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: interviewing Kamala Harris, and of course Kamala came out and 237 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: criticize the US Border Security for using whips obviously did 238 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: not occur, but she and Joe Biden have both been 239 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: passing that along and now just in the last one 240 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,479 Speaker 1: hour or so, they have found out that the positive 241 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: COVID tests they got are actually of a negative nature. 242 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: They didn't actually have COVID. So here's a big question 243 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: for you, Buck, and I think it's a good one. 244 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: Why are we still real testing, really testing for COVID. 245 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: And let me give you an example here. I have 246 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: never tested positive for COVID. I've been tested many times, 247 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: probably seven, eight, nine, ten times. I know I had COVID. 248 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: I have COVID antibodies. I suspect that I had COVID 249 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: when I had a small fever, but I may have 250 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: had it as far back as at the super Bowl 251 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: because I came back and I was actually sick for 252 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: a few days then. And we now know COVID was circulating. 253 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: If you had antibodies, right, you're not like one of 254 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: these people that's like, I had a sniffle, So I 255 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: had COVID, right, No, I had COVID. But the reason 256 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: why I have antibodies I know, but I never went 257 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: and got a positive test because I was like, well, 258 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: if I start feeling bad and I need to be treated. 259 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: But in my entire life, I've never had a positive 260 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: test for the flu. For instance, I've certainly had the flu, 261 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: and when I feel crappy, I stay home. Fortunately, I've 262 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: had pretty good health over the last twenty some odd years. 263 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: But I don't remember, for any other illness going and 264 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: having a test to see whether or not I had it. Now, 265 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, strep throat tests, okay, But 266 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: I've had the flu, you know, a bunch of times, 267 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: like most people out there have, I've never gotten a 268 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: positive test for it. The reason why I'm asking this 269 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: is since we know so many cod symptomatic are asymptomatic, 270 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: how many people are like the view they have a 271 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: positive COVID test, they never have it, and they are 272 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: isolating themselves in their homes for however long, and it's 273 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: completely There's also a lot of information we just should 274 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: have and don't about. I mean, how how much of 275 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: a spreader are you if you're asymptomatic? How long are 276 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: you Remember we used to have these they would say, oh, 277 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: for about seven days. Oh, then it's ten days, and 278 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: then it was two weeks, and then it was ten days. Again. 279 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: They they used to try to tell don't even know 280 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: what the number is now how long you're supposed to 281 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: quarantine when you test. I think you're supposed to quarantine 282 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: for ten days? Is that the number? Now it might 283 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: be a weird So this is what I mean, right, 284 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't worry about it's already had COVID. 285 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, I got that natural immunity up here in 286 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck show. But I look, I think 287 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: that having these kinds of tests and having this testing 288 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: going on continuously is of limited utility. You'll notice that 289 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: they've actually started to talk again. By the way, there 290 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: are pop up sites now all over my neighborhood. I mean, 291 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: if you walk around Midtown Manhattan, which is where I 292 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: live and work, to get tested for COVID, you can 293 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: just go in pop up sites, pop up sites for 294 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: testing all over the place. They are preparing as though 295 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: we're going into a winter. I'm just gonna say this. 296 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: They are making preparations as though we are going into 297 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: a winter where we do not have sixty five percent 298 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: of the population vaccinated and therefore at very little risk 299 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: of hospitalization and death, as well as one hundred and 300 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: fifty million, give or take, you know, twenty or fifty 301 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: million who knows who have had COVID. Right, we should 302 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: be feeling much much better about this in so many ways. 303 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: But all you have to do is see the way 304 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: they're setting up all these testing sites and just the 305 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: bureaucracy around this. I mean, Clay, there are universities where 306 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: you have to test every week, even if you're vaccinated, 307 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: just doesn't matter. Of course, they're making people do this. 308 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: I know a duke they're doing it. There's some other 309 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: schools they're doing it too. We're making fun of Stanford 310 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: because they have one hundred percent vaccination rate on campus. 311 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: And then they're still requiring you, if you are in 312 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: the campus gym, to be wearing a mask while you 313 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: play basketball or run on a treadmill, and so everything 314 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: that you were sold and that we were sold by 315 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: the Biden administration, Hey, get your vaccine. You'll never have 316 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: to worry about testing positive, you'll never have to worry 317 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: about going to the hospital, You'll never have to worry 318 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: about dying with COVID. That's not true, such that Joe 319 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: Biden just right now live on television. Buck we talked 320 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: about it on Friday that he would get it soon. Well, 321 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: he went ahead and got it. He got his cod 322 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 1: booster shot as a what's seventy eight year old, I 323 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: believe he went ahead and got that done. And the 324 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: question that's hanging out there, and I think it's a 325 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: good one, is how many more booster shots are you 326 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: gonna have to get? This is gonna be years. People 327 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: are gonna do this for years now. There are gonna 328 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: be those who just accept that they're gonna get their 329 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: COVID shot. And by the way, I think it could 330 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: be every six months, not even every year. This is 331 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: what they're just gonna try to top off my immunity, 332 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: top off my immunity as if. And by the way, 333 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: at some point that starts to decline in effectiveness of course, 334 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: and also at some point these are your immune systems, folks. 335 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: You know, we shouldn't be just going to roll in 336 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: the dice on some of this stuff with you know, 337 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: our six or seventh shot. 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Thank 355 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: you and I love you too, your incredible people. He's 356 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: out there, folks, He's still fighting. Hasn't hasn't decided to 357 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: give it up, not even a little bit. In fact, 358 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: the more I talk to people and welcome back to 359 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck Show, this is Buck. The more 360 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: I talk to people from President Trump's orbit, the more 361 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm hearing he's running. It's just a question of who 362 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: the team is going to be around him, who the 363 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: vice president would be. But I'm hearing that it's I've 364 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: had people tell me it's it's it's one hundred percent 365 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: in their minds at this point. Now it's obviously not 366 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: one hundred percent until he declares, which is not going 367 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: to happen, as we've talked about so many times before, 368 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: until after the midterms, one would think. But there was 369 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: an electricity at the Georgia National Fairgrounds over the weekend 370 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: as President Trump was rallying for a bunch of candidates 371 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: who were running who are running for office in twenty 372 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: twenty two. But Trump is just back out there doing 373 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: what he does. And one thing, especially given there's a 374 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: lot of focus right now on whether anybody could even 375 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: is allowed to talk about the Arizona audit, the Arizona 376 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: ballot audit, and you all have a lot of people 377 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: say you can't, you can't talk about it, even on 378 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: some conservative networks, even on some platforms that you would 379 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: think would be more open to conservative points of Republican 380 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: points of view, pro Trump points of view. And Trump 381 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: was reminding everybody over the weekend about how the people 382 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: that claim the right, whether it's on social media or 383 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: just in general in our society to determine the boundary 384 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: of acceptable political conversation. Were the same ones who lied 385 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: about Russia and also are pushing January six as an insurrection. 386 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: That's what's going on with Russia. They made up a 387 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: hoax and we had to live with it for three years. 388 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: What kind of a sick, perverted mind does that? And 389 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: it was the lawyer and Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. 390 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: They made it up. It was a hoax. And now 391 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: they're doing it again with the January six. Okay, they're 392 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: doing it again. They're doing it again. We went through 393 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: three years of hell battling this fake charge that was 394 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: only allowed to happen because the media was complicit, as 395 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: they always are for the Democrat. They always are, Clay, 396 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: that's for sure. I got a question for you, Buck, 397 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: two questions One, and I agree everybody that I am 398 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: talking to says Trump's going to run to so at 399 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: this point I think it would be a big upset 400 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: if he decided not to run in twenty twenty four. 401 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: Who do we think is his best possible vice presidential candidate? 402 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: Because it's not going to be penns and then maybe 403 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: we can talk about that when we come back for 404 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: the next segment. Let's tease that will pause it. But 405 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: I want to ask you this question. Has it actually 406 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: worked to Trump's favor that he is banned by all 407 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: these big tech platforms, And let me explain my thesis, 408 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: and you tell me if I'm a mad genius or 409 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: just crazy. Everybody already has an opinion about Donald Trump, 410 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: pro or con every single person in the entire United States, 411 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: I believe, and I know there's people who disagree that. 412 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: One of the reasons why Trump antagonized people in the 413 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: middle of the country that by middle of the country, 414 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily mean middle part of the country, although 415 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: that certainly factors in, but people in the middle of 416 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: the political spectrum was they just got tired of the 417 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: incessant drumbeat of his Twitter. And the reality is most 418 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: media are lazy and not particularly smart, but Donald Trump's 419 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: tweets gave them easy stories to talk about and write 420 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: about without having to do work. When he's doing these rallies, 421 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: you got to sit and watch him talk for two 422 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: hours to have a storyline associated with it. So if 423 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: everybody already has an opinion about Trump. Is he actually 424 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: getting more favorable treatment because it's not a daily drumbeat 425 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: of tweets. Instead, it's the overall end result of Trump, 426 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: which was right right. A lot of people liked where 427 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: Trump got. They didn't necessarily like the bull in a 428 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: China shop day to day, but they had had some trepidation. 429 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: So could he actually be helped by not having daily 430 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: thoughts on Twitter? Hourly thoughts on Twitter in some way? 431 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 1: Is this a crazy idea or do you buy into it? 432 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: It's interesting, I would say, because it makes him a 433 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: martyr too. Well, is where I wanted to go the 434 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: overall narrative. So this is what I think you're opening up. 435 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: And I would agree on this point because I actually 436 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: think that the Trump tweets were also you know, we 437 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: kind of think of it all as good or bad. 438 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: There were days where those Trump tweets were incredible. And 439 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: the fact that he was able to take his message 440 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: directly to the people and not have to go through, say, 441 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: you know, a Lester Holt interview or fake Tapper interview. 442 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: I think that was massive in sixteen. But now everybody's 443 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: kind of got an opinion of Trump already. So so 444 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: here's here's what I'd say. I mean this whole notion 445 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: of Trump being kicked off of social media, and there 446 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: are some conservative platforms now for that are essentially conservative 447 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: mirror images on Twitter that are out there that are 448 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: that are gaining some traction, I'm on some, but the 449 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: it proves the system is rigged. I mean that's by 450 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: Trump being banned from Facebook and Twitter when these are 451 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: the most powerful media platforms in the country. If he 452 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: shows beyond doubt the system is rigged full stop, okay, 453 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: and they do it in the open now they don't 454 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: play any games, or I should say they can't play 455 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: the same kind of games they used to about how 456 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: it was always an accident when we banned conservatives. And 457 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: it's also a reminder of how people saw Trump in 458 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: the early days when he started that what felt like 459 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: so improbable campaign to end up winning the presidency in 460 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, and it was that he was considered a 461 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: blunt force instrument against the apparatus of elite control, and 462 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: especially given what we are seeing right now the country 463 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: we are living in and what the possibilities are if 464 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: it's perpetual of this continuing and even getting worse. I 465 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: mean Australia. We think of it as the UK with 466 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: better weather, a nicer people. Australia is now East Germany 467 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: with koalas. They have completely lost their minds right, like 468 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: they're on another planet. They're tackling random moms and dads 469 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: who were just out walking in the streets doing nothing 470 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: at all. Right, yes, if you're not one of the mask, 471 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: if you're out where you're not supposed to be in 472 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: broad daylight, they will have police officers wrestle you face 473 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: plan into the cement and take you in handcuffs in 474 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: front of your own childe. Australia is where America would 475 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: be if we didn't have Federals, right, if we didn't 476 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: have Ron de Santis and a few other Republican governors 477 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: who were able to hold the line against the complete madness, 478 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: we would be in a similar situation because the Fauci, 479 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: I'd see it. And you notice they never do you 480 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: ever see people on the left who are like you 481 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: should mask, you should vax whoa Australia a little crazy. 482 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: They don't criticize it, they don't have a problem with it. 483 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: But Trump again, Trump was our sledgehammer against people like 484 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: Fauci who pretend they have all these credentials and they're 485 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: so smart, they do such a good job, but then 486 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: they actually stink at their jobs and their little petty 487 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: tyrants and they have bad outcomes, and then they try 488 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: to blame us because we didn't mask up enough or whatever. 489 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: So that's why, that's one of the reasons why I think, 490 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, Trump is spirital industry. We talked about the 491 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: social media thing. I just want to throw this in 492 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: there too. Trump realizes that the social media battle is 493 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: central to the political future this country, so he started 494 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: There was a lock him Up chat targeting Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg. 495 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: It was I've never heard this before. This was the 496 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: first time to hear anything like like this one. Fay 497 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: shows also took forty five million dollars from Facebook's Mark 498 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: Zuckerberg to fund election related activities. Well, they should be 499 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: looking at that. And what is that all about? The sledgehammer, Clay, 500 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: I want the Trump hammer the sledgehammer back. And the 501 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: other thing I should add in here. Biden and Trump 502 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: are statistically tied in favorability right now. It's pretty crazy, 503 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: right because Biden ran his entire campaign on normalcy, on 504 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: not creating a stir and I wonder whether this is 505 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: having a reverse impact. Just kind of put it in 506 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: the back of your mind and think about it. It's 507 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: still early. Is there a reverse impact. You gotta be 508 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: careful sometimes when you make decisions, because when Facebook band 509 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: Trump and when Twitter band Trump, I wonder whether it 510 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: made him a martyr and it also ended up helping 511 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: him going forward. Just put in the back of your 512 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: minds and think about it. When we come back, we'll 513 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: talk about that idea. If Trump's gonna run, who would 514 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: be the VP? And we have an update that I 515 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: meant to get you, but we got so deep into 516 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: a Trump bology that I didn't talk about it. I 517 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: want to the January sixth insurrection, there was an FBI 518 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: informant present and speaking to the FBI in real time 519 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: about the whole thing that and of itself. Maybe not 520 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: maybe you know some people say, Okay, well, I can 521 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: almost guarantee you, folks, he wasn't the only one. 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Tommy John dot com slash clay and 559 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: Buck c site for detailed Welcome back in Clay, Travis 560 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show, where you're gonna be joined by doctor 561 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: Herbie Risch by the way here in a little bit. 562 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: He is a big time immunologist expert on COVID and 563 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: we're excited to talk to him at the top of 564 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: the next hour In the meantime, Buck, we got the 565 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: insurrection talk rising up. We have the FBI with a 566 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: bunch of different informants, and I asked this question, and 567 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: it's going to be debated a ton. If Trump is 568 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: going to run, and both of us believe that he 569 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: is in fact going to run, the VP choice that 570 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: he makes will matter in a massive way, because if 571 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: Trump were to win in twenty twenty four, He's only 572 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: got one term he can serve. We've not really seen 573 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: a situation like this where you would have a one 574 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: term president rewinning election in any of our lives, and 575 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: so who he selects as VP would be massive on 576 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: a scale of a vice presidential election that, frankly, we 577 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: really haven't seen. Now. You could argue Biden's selection because 578 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: there still is the expectation that he's not going to 579 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: run again at the age of eighty two, but Trump 580 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: would have a mass number of people who would love 581 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: to be aligned with him. I just think this decision 582 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: would tell us a lot about his thinking in general, 583 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: and it's kind of a massive wild card. I think 584 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: it'll evolve between now and when he makes it. I'm 585 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: sure there's a short list from what I understand from 586 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: people that are in close contact with the president. You know, 587 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: the names that come to mind are the names that 588 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: everybody who think of obviously de Santists, Pompeo, Nikki Haley, 589 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: Christine Nome. Who am I leaving Scott Scott. Yeah, I 590 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: just I just think it's such an interesting question because 591 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: there's some different angles that everybody could bring to bear there, 592 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: I think. So. I also think it's interesting question to 593 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: see how many people were in the either employee or 594 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: acting as agents of the federal government who were present, 595 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: because Claire, I want, I want you to do a 596 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: little lawyering here for us. Yeah, here's what we know. 597 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: Among those who march into Capitol on January sixth was 598 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: an FBI informant. This is not from you know, right 599 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: crazy dot com. This is the New York Times, so 600 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: left wing crazy dot com. Actually, a member of the 601 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: far right Proud Boys texted his FBI handler during the assault, 602 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: but maintained the group had no plan in advance to 603 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: enter the capital and disrupt the election certification. Here's just 604 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of this. As scores of Proud Boys 605 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: made their way, channing and shouting toward the capital on 606 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: January sixth, one member of the far right group was 607 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: busy texting a real time account of the march. The 608 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: recipient was his FBI handler. In the informants version of events, 609 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: the Proud Boys were largely following a pro Trump mob 610 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: consumed by a herd mentality, rather than carrying out any 611 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: type of pre planned attack. Gee, it sounds like people 612 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: got carried away in a big crowd and engaged in 613 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: a riot, not an insurrection to overthrow the United States government. Gee, 614 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of what it sounds like to me. Clay, Yeah, 615 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: and again I would say that the number one story 616 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: to me about the riot on January six is one 617 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: how much different this has been treated than months of 618 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter riots, which were mostly peaceful protests, as 619 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: we've long been told, but a failure of security right 620 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: because it wasn't as if the people who ended up 621 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: in the Capitol. We've seen the videos that came out 622 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: by the way last week and got very limited attention, 623 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: mostly showing people walking around taking selfies inside like tourists, 624 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: as opposed to people who were trying to overthrow the government. 625 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: If you made if you made a video of people 626 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: like walking around your standard art museum, it would mean 627 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: it would have looked like I'm not saying the whole thing, 628 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: but that video that was released people kind of milling about, 629 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, sort of taking a selfie, standing around, looking around. 630 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: Not exactly an insurrection, right, And many of these entrances 631 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: were not even overrun. It was like they the police 632 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: just said, Okay, we're not even gonna fight over this 633 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: and stepped out of the way. And so the doors 634 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: are open. There's a big, massive people that are going in, 635 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: and you go in and you take a picture. I 636 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: bet a lot of those people had never been in 637 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: the United States capital before. Now, did some people take 638 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: this step beyond that and deserve to be charged with crimes? Yes, 639 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: in the same way that so many people deserve to 640 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: be charged with crimes in the Black Lives Matter protests 641 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: that occurred for months all over this country. And by 642 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: the way, Buck, officially the news has come out. We 643 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: talked about this, I believe on Thursday or Friday, what 644 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: the FBI data was going to say for twenty twenty. Well, 645 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: now it's officially official, and we had the largest increase 646 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: in murders in the history of the country since nineteen 647 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: s And it's so important that everyone. Remember, it's not 648 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: really the increase in murders in the year twenty twenty. 649 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: It's the increase in murders starting in June, yes, for 650 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: six months. Because they're going to try they're gonna say 651 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: that is the reason for this, or which actually instant 652 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: because we were under the rate of murder, because we 653 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: were so many cities were locked down in March, April 654 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: and May until the George Floyd protests started. There was 655 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: no massive increase of murder at all. It's very straightforward. 656 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: When one political party, which is the Democrat party in 657 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 1: this country, embraces a narrative of both lawlessness and victimology 658 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: at the hands of cops, very bad things happen, and 659 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: disproportionally happen in high crime, majority minority neighborhoods in major cities. 660 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: That is the reality. They can try to say other 661 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: things as much as they want. Thousands of mostly young 662 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: black residents of inner cities are dead now, thousands that 663 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: would not have been dead otherwise. Probably you're listening to 664 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: Clay Travis, said Buck Sexton Fund the EIB Network