Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where all divisions are created equal,
Speaker 1: but the NFC is a little more equal. I'm Greg
Speaker 1: Rosenthal here in the Chris Westleying podcast studio with my
Speaker 1: friend Patrick Claybahn. That's a little bit of a joke there, Patrick,
Speaker 1: because you know the shadowy League figures the schedule makers,
Speaker 1: it's they're all about the NFC East. They're just always
Speaker 1: hoping the NFC East can be good so that they
Speaker 1: can just put them in primetime all the time.
Speaker 2: And that's how you feel.
Speaker 3: Imagine how the people who are not fans of a
Speaker 3: team in the East might feel, or the general viewer
Speaker 3: when it's like Week twelve and here's you know, a
Speaker 3: non Jackson Dark Giants team playing on Monday Night.
Speaker 4: I've been that guy. Over the years.
Speaker 1: The Giants and Commanders have been the most egregious members,
Speaker 1: always in primetime, the old Washington team, especially back in
Speaker 1: the day.
Speaker 4: It's just like just trotting them out there.
Speaker 1: And yet I surmise this season, oh, Patrick, that they
Speaker 1: are one of the most interesting divisions, that they are
Speaker 1: going to be worthy of that much airtime. Because even
Speaker 1: if the Commanders and the Giants, maybe they're not projected
Speaker 1: to go to the playoffs. I think top to bottom.
Speaker 1: If I'm ranking like most interesting divisions, worst case, they're
Speaker 1: in the middle this year, they're not very often in
Speaker 1: the last ten fifteen years, it kind of been at
Speaker 1: the bottom. I think all four of these teams were
Speaker 1: going to preview today are intrigument Yes, I mean.
Speaker 3: Well again, we got thirty two interesting teams. The problems
Speaker 3: with the schedule makers is, you know, certain things are
Speaker 3: made for ever audience, maybe viewer, not necessarily people who
Speaker 3: are dialed in and watching NFL Network listening to the
Speaker 3: NFL days.
Speaker 4: They're not all ego though.
Speaker 1: There's like there's like four to there's like six to
Speaker 1: eight that are a little less intriguing I think from
Speaker 1: like a national broadcast perspective. But even the giants, I
Speaker 1: mean they got some top line talent. We'll get to
Speaker 1: them second. Because what we do on this show. If
Speaker 1: you've been tuning in and this is number seven, so
Speaker 1: we don't play favorites NFC East, they're not, you know,
Speaker 1: closing the show and you know they're just in the middle,
Speaker 1: seventh out of our eight division. In previews, we have
Speaker 1: a twelve minute clock for every team. Soft clock not
Speaker 1: a hard one, So sometimes you go a little over.
Speaker 1: I give you some categories, we both answer those categories,
Speaker 1: and then at the end we predict how this division
Speaker 1: is going to finish. We go in alphabetical order by
Speaker 1: the city. The Dallas Cowboys get us going. A young
Speaker 1: Patrick Claybah once rooted for his favorite player, DeMarcus where
Speaker 1: when he was on the Cowboys. Let's start here even
Speaker 1: before what's bringing us joy? Which is usually how I start.
Speaker 1: But since we've last taped, Von Miller is a member
Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys. Does that remind you, Yeah, a
Speaker 1: little bit of your guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why he's my most important ark.
Speaker 3: No, but can the parallels there as dware goes to
Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos on tail and he wasn't at the
Speaker 3: tail end of his career that Von Miller is, but
Speaker 3: you know, just outside or maybe towards the end of
Speaker 3: his prime, goes and gets a ring there, and Vaughn,
Speaker 3: after recording the franchise on social media for what feels
Speaker 3: like the last five months, as finally you know, acquired
Speaker 3: a spot on his on his hometown team. But I
Speaker 3: think it's another player on the defensive line. I think
Speaker 3: Quentin Williams is the most important non quarterback because again,
Speaker 3: the defense was so bad and there's only so much
Speaker 3: you can do. To ask a rookie free agent, I
Speaker 3: mean a rookie at free safety in Caleb downs to
Speaker 3: do and to take over everything it has to be
Speaker 3: quin Williams, you had the highest pressure percentage among all
Speaker 3: defensive tackles in the entire league after the trade, and
Speaker 3: so I think that is where the true importance is
Speaker 3: on the interior of the Cowboys defensive line.
Speaker 1: I love that you just like, we don't have to
Speaker 1: do these categories in any sort of order, and I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I was thinking about the same thing
Speaker 1: when thinking about most important non quarterback, and I got
Speaker 1: a little cute because Quinn Williams, I think, is the
Speaker 1: more like, the more like logically answer. He's got to
Speaker 1: be He's got to be great, but there's no reason
Speaker 1: to think he won't be great. Donamanezerakus who I picked.
Speaker 1: And so it was going along with this von Miller
Speaker 1: signing in general that the money they gave von Miller,
Speaker 1: like over five million dollar base salary, and you could say.
Speaker 4: Like that's the respect for a player who's done a
Speaker 4: lot in the league.
Speaker 1: But that's a significant amount of money at this point
Speaker 1: in free agency. That tells me like you're gonna have
Speaker 1: a role. Does that make me worried a little bit
Speaker 1: about how they saw the rest of their edge position
Speaker 1: now the reports in camp, or maybe Malachi Lawrence, their
Speaker 1: first round pick, maybe not ready to make a huge
Speaker 1: instant impact, so it could be a little bit more
Speaker 1: about that. I thought Sam Williams, who they brought back,
Speaker 1: has been having a good camp reportedly, but maybe, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they're not counting on too much from him. Rashan
Speaker 1: Gary is who he is. I think he's a solid
Speaker 1: NFL player. I don't think he's going to change your life.
Speaker 1: Eziaku to me, is kind of the key one of
Speaker 1: this whole defensive line because they work as a defense
Speaker 1: if they are deep along the defensive front. We talked
Speaker 1: about defensive tackle, but Aziraku is the chance to be
Speaker 1: special out of that group, to make a big leap
Speaker 1: and to have a difference maker. Because I see a
Speaker 1: lot of solid players, I want a difference maker, and
Speaker 1: I think as Araku in his second year and the
Speaker 1: reports have been good so far, could be a difference maker.
Speaker 1: Let's let's go back and let's talk about what's bringing
Speaker 1: you joy with this Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: I think what's bringing me joy is we kind of
Speaker 3: talked about the overall feeling of fatigue regarding vision and
Speaker 3: I think a lot of that fatigue is also placed
Speaker 3: on the Dallas Cowboys. But there appears to be this
Speaker 3: begrudging acknowledgment that.
Speaker 2: This team is good.
Speaker 3: Yes, the people who have cast a franchise and you know,
Speaker 3: mainly due to the actions of its ownership to the side,
Speaker 3: I have come back to take this grim sense of
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys are good like it's it's not homersm
Speaker 3: for people to talk about it. It's not like this
Speaker 3: overwhelming pressure from capital to talk about the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 3: like they're they're going to be a good football team.
Speaker 2: I think that it brings me joy in that it's changed.
Speaker 3: That doesn't bring me joy in the sense like you
Speaker 3: accuse me of being a Cowboys fan would this time,
Speaker 3: which you don't do anymore. But that does bring me
Speaker 3: joy because the cyclical nature of the ability of football
Speaker 3: teams has come back around for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: We enjoy watching certain players, we enjoy watching excellent offense.
Speaker 1: I think Dak Prescott is a man we've enjoyed watching
Speaker 1: at his peak, and that's what's bringing me joy. And
Speaker 1: it's very similar to what you said there that we're
Speaker 1: kind of set up for Dak three point zero or
Speaker 1: four point zero, how you want to.
Speaker 4: Think about it.
Speaker 1: If you think about Dak's career, he's always been very good.
Speaker 1: He's had some devastating injuries to come back from, but
Speaker 1: I do think his peaks have been especially special. His
Speaker 1: rookie season where he gets an MVP vote, like as
Speaker 1: a rookie, that was the Matt Ryan rookie year.
Speaker 4: That's just next level.
Speaker 1: I think about the first McCarthy Division title year where
Speaker 1: they led the league in points. That was a special
Speaker 1: Dak year. I think that was maybe his comeback Player
Speaker 1: of the Year vote year the top. Yeah, him and
Speaker 1: Burrow came back in the same season, so they split
Speaker 1: the votes. Burrow ended up getting it, but that was
Speaker 1: a special year. And then a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: he's second in MVP. But now that's actually three years removed,
Speaker 1: so I guess those are three really specially. I just
Speaker 1: think we're all set up with Pickens is still here,
Speaker 1: having a great camp. The offensive line to me is
Speaker 1: enough shoddy. I think is a good head coach and
Speaker 1: it's year two of an offense where everyone like it's
Speaker 1: just set up for him to live up to those
Speaker 1: shirts he's wearing where they're going to be like the
Speaker 1: best offense in the league and he's wearing super Bowl shirts.
Speaker 1: It is very exciting that DAK is set up for
Speaker 1: this sort of season. So we did the most important
Speaker 1: non quarterbacks one of the categories here is just something
Speaker 1: schematic related that gets your your football loins as juicing
Speaker 1: seame dream well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and ultimately because Christian Parker would like to escape
Speaker 3: this giant shadow that is cast all over the league
Speaker 3: in terms of Vic Fangiol.
Speaker 2: He's connected to everything as you've their.
Speaker 4: New defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Christian Parker comes in and we're not going
Speaker 3: to really see all of the coverage disguising everything in
Speaker 3: the preseason, So just have to kind of base it
Speaker 3: off of what Christian Parker was saying over the course
Speaker 3: of the summer, which sounds like everything that everybody says.
Speaker 2: Here's the quote, We're going to be multiple.
Speaker 3: Whatever you form a defensive structure is about the players
Speaker 3: you have or our cour pencibles will be three four
Speaker 3: by nature, but four to three spacing will be appropriate.
Speaker 3: All that coming in just to acknowledge the sameness of
Speaker 3: what all the coordinators say when they start. But I
Speaker 3: think as we see the front seven, specifically the off
Speaker 3: ball linebackers get a little bit bigger for Dallas, there'll
Speaker 3: be this capacity to kind of limit things on the
Speaker 3: inside where for years they've been getting run all over.
Speaker 3: There was no amount of scheming that Matt Eberflus could do,
Speaker 3: you know, as limited as things were with his capacity
Speaker 3: for that last season. Between the talent, the play calling, everything,
Speaker 3: I don't think it is just coach beak to hear
Speaker 3: Christian Parker say these things, yeah, and to talk about
Speaker 3: the way that they're going to approach things because they
Speaker 3: have the players to facilitate that scheme. Not to the
Speaker 3: extent that Vic Fangio, you know, had a future Defensive
Speaker 3: Player of the Year and Patrick's Artan when he had
Speaker 3: queen Ya Mitchell come in as a rookie and be
Speaker 3: able to stay on one side of the field for forever.
Speaker 3: They don't have that level of talent. But I think
Speaker 3: there's something to be excited about there.
Speaker 1: I totally agree, and look, he was with vic in
Speaker 1: Denver as well. He was with like Patrick Sartan. He's
Speaker 1: had a little Vans Joseph time, so he's learned from
Speaker 1: the best. I think of those systems as so secondary
Speaker 1: dependent that that is my things go wrong if oh,
Speaker 1: like he doesn't have the pieces enough in the back end.
Speaker 1: Now on paper, it looks a little better than a
Speaker 1: year ago. Shavon Ravel is a player they took high
Speaker 1: in the draft knowing he wasn't going to contribute as
Speaker 1: a rookie really, and he didn't. He struggled down the stretch.
Speaker 1: He's reportedly looked better. Dron Bland is healthy, so he's back.
Speaker 1: They signed Kobe Durant, but that's kind of a middling
Speaker 1: solid replacing guy midlan is Ow.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 1: They signed Jalen Thompson, a guy from Arizona who's played
Speaker 1: a lot of STAPs, has not practiced in campleing he's
Speaker 1: just been hurt the whole time. So Malie Hooker is
Speaker 1: a guy some people around the team wonder like, is
Speaker 1: he long for this roster. It's putting a lot on
Speaker 1: Caleb Downs as a rookie, and Caleb Downs could be
Speaker 1: that dude. But That's kind of why I started with
Speaker 1: we're talking pass rush. The pass rush can make the
Speaker 1: back end. I don't see a great secondary there. I
Speaker 1: think I see a hoping to be solid, and solid
Speaker 1: would be a big improvement from a year ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was why things go wrong if if
Speaker 3: darn Bitbland isn't all the way back after two consecutive
Speaker 3: years with foot injuries, because then you start, which is
Speaker 3: going to be kind of a theme with this division,
Speaker 3: that shell game of all right, well so did we've
Speaker 3: done this to make up for this, and then eventually
Speaker 3: the whole thing just kind of collapses where yeah, if
Speaker 3: they if they can't cover it, we don't need like
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year candidate Ron Bland for things
Speaker 3: to work, like they need.
Speaker 2: Just Deron Bland.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just the guy that be out there, out there
Speaker 3: on the field for fifteen games would alleviate a lot
Speaker 3: of concern.
Speaker 4: I think that's true.
Speaker 1: And Christian Parker, who's been a rising name I think
Speaker 1: in coaching circles for a while, he did the thing
Speaker 1: that Bill Barcels always said was important. I thought that,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes Bill Barcells spoke some bs. Sometimes it
Speaker 1: was truth and or are.
Speaker 2: We putting the balance on that. If you put it
Speaker 2: right in the middle.
Speaker 1: It's pretty. It's pretty in the middle. Oh yeah, we disagree.
Speaker 1: I mean he said something about like you gotta take
Speaker 1: jobs when you know he once talked about how you
Speaker 1: take the jobs when they're at their lowest because you're
Speaker 1: gonna look better when you take it. I don't think
Speaker 1: that was Christian Parker's intention of taking this job. But
Speaker 1: they literally, according to the DVOA, were the worst defense
Speaker 1: in the last twenty five years.
Speaker 4: So only you're only going up.
Speaker 1: You're gonna look like a good coach if you make
Speaker 1: them twenty first and that might be all they need
Speaker 1: to be a playoff team now, if they want to
Speaker 1: go far in the playoffs, they might need to be
Speaker 1: a little bit better than that. The scheme dream I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about was they were the team. And
Speaker 1: I'm not sure everyone realizes this. That played at the
Speaker 1: fastest pace in the entire NFL last year. You have
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott as smart as canny like at quarterback, as
Speaker 1: I think any quarterback in the entire NFL, kind of
Speaker 1: at the peak of his powers mentally, while the physical
Speaker 1: attributes are still there. Everyone thought Brian Schottenheimer was going
Speaker 1: to be like his dad and run the ball like crazy.
Speaker 1: They actually were last in the NFL in choosing to
Speaker 1: run in power situations. In terms of neutral situations, they
Speaker 1: were well below average in choosing to run. He knew
Speaker 1: where his best players were, and so it's not just
Speaker 1: about that they were trailing that they let Dak do this.
Speaker 1: And I see that George Pickens in year two of
Speaker 1: this system. Ryan Flinoy is a good young player as
Speaker 1: their third. It's a really veteran group, even the offensive line,
Speaker 1: how the Tyler's you know Smith guy in Booker. Two
Speaker 1: of those guys are young, but they've been there. Like
Speaker 1: this is a team that can go fast, fast, fast,
Speaker 1: and I think that works well against a lot of
Speaker 1: what defenses are doing. So to me, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a really fun thing to watch them, just maybe playing
Speaker 1: at a little turbo speed, which it kind of did
Speaker 1: last year while no one was looking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why sit back if you don't have to and
Speaker 3: get pummeled and have chances for everybody's checks to come through,
Speaker 3: you know, the pressure schemes to all get set up,
Speaker 3: maybe even substitute, like if you if you.
Speaker 1: Don't have to do that, you got to trust everyone,
Speaker 1: and you got to have and you do with Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: and you got to trust all the personnel to run
Speaker 1: the play, and you got to have a versatile group
Speaker 1: of players, and I think they do. I've really enjoyed
Speaker 1: hearing everything at camp that Pickens has kind of come
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 4: Just like ready to go.
Speaker 1: Because this is him, like like after he hasn't always
Speaker 1: been in camps and stuff. He's had smaller injuries and
Speaker 1: stuff like that over the year. So I just like
Speaker 1: that he's healthy. I just I just love I love everything.
Speaker 3: Then I'm here like the overreaction like after last year
Speaker 3: where the culmination of the Pickens things was getting hurt
Speaker 3: against Detroit and he went to a casino with CD
Speaker 3: before a game like that was it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What I mean is that for the people watching the
Speaker 1: practice reports, it hasn't always like he hasn't been the
Speaker 1: most consistent player, and I think that happens with young players.
Speaker 1: And if you get an extremely consistent season out of
Speaker 1: Pickens again, they are going to be really really tough
Speaker 1: to stop as long as that offensive line plays well enough.
Speaker 1: I going into last season, I thought they had like
Speaker 1: a top five ceiling, and they were I would say
Speaker 1: well below that. In the end in terms of their
Speaker 1: offensive line, they just need to be good. But I
Speaker 1: think their ceiling is still pretty high. Let's talk ceiling
Speaker 1: floor the whole team.
Speaker 4: Where do you see them?
Speaker 2: The ceiling is the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's go.
Speaker 2: I don't think that it's bluster.
Speaker 3: I think this this Cowboys team can, as a lot
Speaker 3: of these teams can when the Super Bowl, the way
Speaker 3: things play off, I see the floor as relatively high
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: Ten wins, that's a high floor. It's a high floor.
Speaker 3: But like that's the place where we're saying all things
Speaker 3: are saying the court, and again.
Speaker 4: We're talking in ceiling floor.
Speaker 1: We've made it clear if you're just tuning in to
Speaker 1: the division previous, that's assuming health, relative health, and so.
Speaker 3: As thin as things are in the secondary, which every
Speaker 3: single team has to navigate this minefield, that is a
Speaker 3: game that's inherently not good for your body to play.
Speaker 3: DAK plays the secondary is able to stay thin and
Speaker 3: play that they win take games.
Speaker 4: I think the ceiling.
Speaker 1: At first, I just thought win the division, win some
Speaker 1: a playoff game or two, and that's about the ceiling.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm backing off my like extreme
Speaker 1: optimism that I started the offseason with because everyone's on it.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be like that. Don't let the outside forces
Speaker 1: infect you. Are they one of the teams I can
Speaker 1: imagine in the Super Bowl representing the NFC they are.
Speaker 1: It's not that long a list, not as long a
Speaker 1: list in the NFC as it is the AFC.
Speaker 4: They are. I think they can make the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I think the floor is closer to you know, eight
Speaker 1: and nine, nine and eight, just if if the defense
Speaker 1: just doesn't take a big step forward. You know, they
Speaker 1: were still as good as the offense was a year ago.
Speaker 1: They were like eighth and dv awaight like they did
Speaker 1: the floor for a team. I think it is a
Speaker 1: round five hundred, maybe nine to eight or so. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the Giants. What is bringing you joy?
Speaker 4: For the New York Giants?
Speaker 2: Not to be shot and fruity.
Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm a little worried about the hesitation there.
Speaker 4: You know, You're like, is anything bringing me joy?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Well, ultimately you get it. You get a chance to
Speaker 3: have people talk about the adult in the room. There's
Speaker 3: been a lot of conversation about the state of the franchise. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and now with John Harball there to lead it. And
Speaker 3: I'm excited for the results to play out, whatever they
Speaker 3: may be, because I think they could possibly be instructive
Speaker 3: as to how we have view circumstances regarding changes.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're what's bringing joy as you're rooty against
Speaker 1: John hord.
Speaker 2: I'm not rooting against John Holbro.
Speaker 3: I'm rooting against the results to play out and everybody
Speaker 3: to adjust their expectations relative to what they see.
Speaker 1: How high are the expectations for this team? Are they
Speaker 1: that high?
Speaker 2: I think they're higher than they have been.
Speaker 3: And this is a team that has been more likely
Speaker 3: to lose nine games than they are to go to
Speaker 3: the postseason, you know if you go back the past decade,
Speaker 3: and so the expectations are up. There's excitement surrounding Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3: But I think I'm just it brings me joy that
Speaker 3: we get to find out, Okay, we get to find
Speaker 3: out how it works to have a quote unquote adult
Speaker 3: in the room.
Speaker 1: You're being a little sneaky here, but heck, nine losses
Speaker 1: would be a great season for them. That would be
Speaker 1: their second best season of the last twelve years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not third best.
Speaker 1: Sorry, they made the playoffs twice, but every other season
Speaker 1: was that at least six wins or fewer, going back
Speaker 1: all the way to their last nine and seven season
Speaker 1: with Eli Manning.
Speaker 4: That's crazy to think about. I'll start with the draft picks.
Speaker 1: Watching the first preseason game, Rvel Reese just throwing Donovan
Speaker 1: Jackson that the Vikings guard aside and sticking who is
Speaker 1: the running back in the hole? I think I think
Speaker 1: it was Jordan Mason and just like that run stopped
Speaker 1: right there. I think he was born to play off
Speaker 1: ball linebacker. I'm kind of glad that he got drafted
Speaker 1: by a team that doesn't need him at edge. And
Speaker 1: then between him and Francis Mauinoa, who had a good
Speaker 1: first preseason game two and could help transform that line
Speaker 1: into a group where suddenly you know you got him
Speaker 1: and Andrew Thomas. You okay, we got a couple of
Speaker 1: difference makers. We got a couple other solid players that
Speaker 1: we believe in two including illumin Or at right tackle,
Speaker 1: and we could get powerful, we could run the ball.
Speaker 1: This is a team with top end talent. Potentially if
Speaker 1: those guys pan out and then which will bring me
Speaker 1: I'll just go right into my most important quarterback because
Speaker 1: it'll be It'll be Neighbors. And to me, the two
Speaker 1: options where neighbors are Abdul Carter. Did did you choose
Speaker 1: one of those two? Okay, why don't you go with
Speaker 1: neighbors and I'll go with Abdul Carter. But my point
Speaker 1: connecting all these is like, Okay, Reese Mario a Neighbors,
Speaker 1: Abdul Carter, Andrew Thomas, Brian Burns, Like, we got some
Speaker 1: some great players on this team. You go through other
Speaker 1: teams that are consensus last place teams, which the Giants
Speaker 1: are for everything you're saying, like the expectations are higher,
Speaker 1: like that they're favored to come and last, like these
Speaker 1: are some high level players. Why is neighbors to you
Speaker 1: so important?
Speaker 3: Because in terms of offensive playmakers, and you know, acknowledging
Speaker 3: the fact that Cam Scatabu was one of the best
Speaker 3: performing running backs over a stretch last season, he's got
Speaker 3: to come back from that.
Speaker 2: But Malik Neighbors.
Speaker 3: Is is so unique in terms of talents capacity to
Speaker 3: make plays with the football that it kind of changes
Speaker 3: the season long outlook of an offense, which is why
Speaker 3: it's it's very important to you to not kind of
Speaker 3: hand phicedly get him back on the field if he's
Speaker 3: not ready to play. And we're not just in terms
Speaker 3: of their ability to execute on the field, but general
Speaker 3: belief probably not just am on the fan base, but
Speaker 3: among the team.
Speaker 2: If Malik Neighbors is.
Speaker 4: Is the opponents too, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because it's there's so much more that you have to
Speaker 3: do to prepare for this version of this Giants team
Speaker 3: that you know. Well, we'll talk about the scheme and
Speaker 3: those facilitating it shortly, but Milik Nighbors changes all of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a little what I'm worried about the
Speaker 1: the offensive staff. I caution and we might get into
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Speaker 3: NFL Fantasy Fantasy Life. This is going to be the
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Speaker 4: Why not.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking Milak Neighbors in fantasy under any circumstances.
Speaker 1: I think these injuries are really serious. I think people
Speaker 1: are getting a little over their skis of like the
Speaker 1: slight improvements as he's getting ready. And I'm just thinking
Speaker 1: about as a realistic human that we're probably not seeing
Speaker 1: the best of Malik Neighbors until twenty twenty seven. Now,
Speaker 1: can you see that maybe even the second half of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, that would be great, That would be
Speaker 1: a massive bonus, which I think it's the right choice, yeah,
Speaker 1: for most important non quarterback. But I'm just about like
Speaker 1: setting expectations at a fair level. And then I think
Speaker 1: if he's not full Malak Neighbors, I think you look
Speaker 1: after him and you think, you know, this is one
Speaker 1: of the worst receiver groups overall in the NFL. You
Speaker 1: know you're hoping Malkyfield steps up. You get a hope
Speaker 1: Darnell Moon, Like, we've got some NFL players there, Calvin Austen,
Speaker 1: and we'll see if it'll be makes the team. But
Speaker 1: like it's a lot for Jackson Dart in this this
Speaker 1: offensive staff to make up for if malak neighbors isn't right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there was a great catch about you know,
Speaker 2: Malachi makes it.
Speaker 3: It makes a great play in a in a situation
Speaker 3: where they might not have done much with that one
Speaker 3: offense out there if not because he got a great
Speaker 3: screen to Devin Singletary to get forty two yards on
Speaker 3: that draft, to get Dart in that position to throw
Speaker 3: that ball to Malachai fields. But it's there's going to
Speaker 3: be so much on Mylikue neighbors if he's not healthy,
Speaker 3: and like one plage neighbors can do all of those things. Yeah,
Speaker 3: are we going to ask eighty nine percent Molakue neighbors
Speaker 3: to carry this offense if he if he's only eighty nine.
Speaker 1: Even some other reporting Jordan Rainon from ESPN at yeah,
Speaker 1: saying it was his first day. It was a big
Speaker 1: step for him going in some drills you know against
Speaker 1: you know, defensive players on Monday. So that's it's a
Speaker 1: big first step. But it's still non contact. He looked
Speaker 1: like he, you know, maybe it was favoring Like I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, be patient. Abdol Carter would be the other
Speaker 1: option if you want like five to ten minutes on
Speaker 1: Abdul Carter. We did an edge rusher draft way earlier
Speaker 1: in the offseason in May me and Ali Connelly.
Speaker 4: We took Abdul Carter ninth.
Speaker 1: He actually went six spots ahead of Brian Burns, which
Speaker 1: is almost disrespectful to Brian Burns. But he's got to
Speaker 1: go perform. I think he can. I think he can
Speaker 1: be an elite edg rusher. He's got to go prove it.
Speaker 1: Finish plays. And if you can do that, him and
Speaker 1: Brian Burns and then with Keveon Thibodeau as your third,
Speaker 1: is as good an edge rush group as there is
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL. My concern and you, I think
Speaker 1: alluded to it were for this team in general. I
Speaker 1: have it under scheme dream, but it could be things
Speaker 1: go wrong if as well would be the three horsemen
Speaker 1: of the offensive apocalypse, Matt Naggie, Greg Roman and Brian
Speaker 1: Callahan running your team. Little concerning that that's the trio.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was what I actually had for my scheme
Speaker 3: dream was a parenthetical nightmare where Naggie and the Chiefs
Speaker 3: and arguably the best quarterback of all time, got worse
Speaker 3: progressively as his ten got longer. His second tenure in
Speaker 3: Kansas City, they were ninth in yards, sixteenth in yards,
Speaker 3: and twentieth in yards over those three seasons. Brian Callahan's
Speaker 3: quarterback when he was the offensive coordinator and head coach,
Speaker 3: his offensive finishes. His offense has finished twenty seventh and
Speaker 3: thirtieth in yards the last two years. And if those
Speaker 3: two don't concern your enough, Greg Roman is also there
Speaker 3: to help make things so much better. And we saw
Speaker 3: how that went for a Chargers team that yes, fell
Speaker 3: apart on the offensive line, but schematically things were so
Speaker 3: frustrating for the end to watch what Justin Herbert was
Speaker 3: dealing with that. I don't know if Jackson Dart can
Speaker 3: solve the things that both Justin Herbert and Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of cooks in the kitchen in the
Speaker 1: passing game specifically, I'm curious if they'll have the right answers.
Speaker 4: Hot take.
Speaker 1: I'd actually feel slightly better about this if Greg Roman
Speaker 1: was just the OC.
Speaker 4: Just tick away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's searingly hot.
Speaker 1: I think here's why, and it's why I have a
Speaker 1: little bit of confidence between this offensive line and the
Speaker 1: running game that he installs, and hopefully Scataboo and possibly
Speaker 1: Najree Harris. There's some talk that he could be joining
Speaker 1: this team. Usually the first year or two of Greg Roman.
Speaker 1: Like you got a mobile quarterback, like the Running Game,
Speaker 1: the running game can be solid, That's all.
Speaker 4: I just would feel better.
Speaker 1: I feel okay about what he's adding if he's in.
Speaker 1: You know, his title is specifically about the running Game
Speaker 1: that I actually feel more confident that he can help
Speaker 1: that I will go to the things go wrong if category,
Speaker 1: and it would be the secondary getting flamed, very similar
Speaker 1: to my last one. But in this case, I think
Speaker 1: the past rus is going to make up for it
Speaker 1: so much that hopefully it won't happen. But between the
Speaker 1: linebackers in coverage and we'll see. I think our VL
Speaker 1: Reese could be great. But you know, it's been a
Speaker 1: weakness for them. Paulson Adebo's running with the second team.
Speaker 1: They're really counting on Greg Newsom, who struggled a lot
Speaker 1: in previous years and has been hurt for camp. Deontay
Speaker 1: Banks is actually bad good graces and is now starting again.
Speaker 1: Colton Hood is a second round pick who reportedly hasn't
Speaker 1: had like the best camp in the world. Denard Wilson
Speaker 1: is the defensive coordinator, and I just don't know what
Speaker 1: he's going to bring to the table because he was
Speaker 1: given a tough group to work with in Tennessee. I
Speaker 1: think he did okay with that, but he's more of
Speaker 1: just like a concept. I'm not really sure what he's
Speaker 1: going to do. And I think he's got a tough
Speaker 1: situation here in the back end potentially too. So that's
Speaker 1: something where the secondary could let them down if the
Speaker 1: but maybe the passer's so good, like the secondary doesn't
Speaker 1: even matter.
Speaker 3: Well, if that were the case, we would have seen
Speaker 3: that last year, if that were possible. Right, for all
Speaker 3: of this talent up front, you know, you take Dexter
Speaker 3: Lawrence out of the equation. It's like, is a legitimate
Speaker 3: question which defensive front seven had more talent? Was it
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five Giants or the twenty twenty six Giants.
Speaker 1: The defensive tackle, I should note too, on paper, is
Speaker 1: a group that has a lot of questions. They brought
Speaker 1: INDJ Reader as a free agent. After that, it's not
Speaker 1: a lot of pass rush and when they were one
Speaker 1: of the worst run, you know, stopping teams in the
Speaker 1: NFL last year.
Speaker 2: And Wilson was with the Titans. I believe that as
Speaker 2: DC for a couple of years.
Speaker 3: One of those years was really really good and so
Speaker 3: like that, Hey, plus, like if if there is a
Speaker 3: way to facilitate that that back end uh to have
Speaker 3: somewhat of a decent performance relative to what they were
Speaker 3: able to do last year. Like that's that's a positive
Speaker 3: way to make this all work. And as you said,
Speaker 3: the offense, as you know, there's a pullback on the
Speaker 3: Matt Naggy and a push forward on Greg Rosenthals Greg Roman,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think he brings something to the table.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure about the Callahan and the Naggy of
Speaker 4: it all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you you.
Speaker 3: Grind Jackson Dart, you're running QB power at the five
Speaker 3: and you you know, carve out a season.
Speaker 1: What's the ceiling and flora this team. We haven't talked
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart specifically yet, so this is a good spot
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they could, they could win ten games. I think
Speaker 3: they could get up there full pedal to the floor,
Speaker 3: triple options like they're they're they're doing it right and
Speaker 3: Darts dobbin and the end zone head first having a
Speaker 3: great time. Uh, they could get up there and win
Speaker 3: some games and bother some people. The floor is a
Speaker 3: decidedly different circumstances.
Speaker 1: You're going extreme floor, Yeah, like top five pick, yeah, six, six, seven, Okay,
Speaker 1: six wins probably gets to like the seventh pick something
Speaker 1: like that. Ten wins a lot like what what is
Speaker 1: the ceiling of both the offense of the defense. When
Speaker 1: I was really thinking about even as good as I
Speaker 1: think some of their top end players are, man, if
Speaker 1: they got like a slightly below average offense, I think
Speaker 1: that'd be a pretty big win for them. It's hard
Speaker 1: for me to scratch out a team that would be
Speaker 1: better than average on offense. It would really be about
Speaker 1: the offensive line, and it would be about Jackson Dart
Speaker 1: doing what we expect second year quarterbacks to do, which
Speaker 1: just take a step forward. And he's shown he can
Speaker 1: make the special place. He saw it with Malchi Fields
Speaker 1: last week. He saw it last season like his great
Speaker 1: moments were really great. He's got something to him. He's
Speaker 1: an NFL player. It's the consistency down to down, it's
Speaker 1: getting to his second reads, it's running an offense and
Speaker 1: having the right setup. To me, nine to eight is
Speaker 1: about as high as I go even eight and nine,
Speaker 1: I think would be an outstanding result for this team.
Speaker 4: So that's more what I see the ceiling of the
Speaker 4: team and you.
Speaker 1: Have five and twelve, and that's really more about Dart
Speaker 1: would be my floor.
Speaker 4: I think there.
Speaker 1: I don't know how his career is going to go,
Speaker 1: but he could be someone that kind of kicks around
Speaker 1: and doesn't stick as like a permanent starter. I think
Speaker 1: that's I think there's a lot of outcomes for his career.
Speaker 1: I think he's a really high ceiling, low floor quarterback,
Speaker 1: and so this is going to be important season. But
Speaker 1: if I could see him struggling and then he's then
Speaker 1: they're five and.
Speaker 3: Twelve, like a circumstance where it's like not a like
Speaker 3: a minimum Baker where the second the second actor never
Speaker 3: comes and it's it's not due to injury.
Speaker 1: You just kind of like a poor man's Baker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like like a like a Portals maybe. I mean Bortles
Speaker 1: had his one year for Jacksonville, but yeah, like he's
Speaker 1: physically gifted and he showed way more than Bortles did early.
Speaker 1: I just mean, I don't know, I think it'll be
Speaker 1: better than.
Speaker 3: That Portles versus Dark career arc Is on does he
Speaker 3: ever get within a controversial play of a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be much closer to Jamis
Speaker 1: Winston's career. Arc you know, maybe like slightly lesser his
Speaker 1: backup quarterback to me is actually kind of the type
Speaker 1: of player, type of career I think he'll have.
Speaker 4: We'll have a long career.
Speaker 1: He'll have some fun highs, but maybe a guy that
Speaker 1: you can't really trust.
Speaker 4: He'll evaluate these young quarterbacks. He'll be getting a backup.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, he's going to be playing for a long time.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. We've hit half the nf
Speaker 1: see East. We are going to come back with the
Speaker 1: team that has dominated the division for the most part
Speaker 1: over the last decade. Back in the NFL Daily Patrick
Speaker 1: making off colored jokes right before we turned the camera on.
Speaker 1: They had nothing to do with the NFC East. There's
Speaker 1: a theme here with these last two teams, the Eagles
Speaker 1: and the Commanders. And as much as I alluded to
Speaker 1: the Eagles dominating this division over the last decade, I
Speaker 1: mean that that Commander's team is only two years ago
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship, the Eagles still dominated.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the pinnacle of franchise they still got.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they were one of the final two
Speaker 1: teams in the NFC. The Philadelphia Eagles and the Commanders
Speaker 1: have something in common, and it that they are installing
Speaker 1: tree or tree adjacent offense, is a lot more under
Speaker 1: center work for their quarterbacks. It's what fans in both
Speaker 1: cities have been asking for over the last few years.
Speaker 1: It's really similar everything you're hearing out of the two
Speaker 1: training camps. And I'll kick off the Eagles by saying,
Speaker 1: that's bringing me joy when it comes to Philadelphia, that
Speaker 1: they're committed to this, that the Sean mannion who comes
Speaker 1: from the Green Bay Matt Laflor system buzz has been
Speaker 1: good in terms of that. This offense really does look different.
Speaker 1: I've gotten increasingly tired of watching the Eagles offense be
Speaker 1: erratic in the same way year after year, no matter
Speaker 1: who the coordinator is. And so I think you're going
Speaker 1: to see a different running game with more outside zone.
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see the play action, You're
Speaker 1: going to see the more motion. It's going to be
Speaker 1: less one on one and the thing that is bringing
Speaker 1: to me more joy and everyone is everyone for whatever
Speaker 1: reason saying this year that hurts is just like in
Speaker 1: a much better mood. He's ready to go. He's embracing
Speaker 1: this offense, he's taking more leadership. He feels lighter, not
Speaker 1: the weight of the world on his shoulder. All this
Speaker 1: stuff is coming from inside and outside the house. That's
Speaker 1: bringing me joy that we see a different Eagles offen.
Speaker 2: Where are they getting that? Though? Where are they all.
Speaker 1: Of his teammates, For one, some have been on the
Speaker 1: record that they've talked about that that he's been like.
Speaker 4: Kind of viewing that part of his job.
Speaker 1: And if you just watch him at the podium, he's
Speaker 1: just not as like self serious for what it's worth.
Speaker 1: And more importantly is the on the field stuff that
Speaker 1: I think it's going to look different, so that I'm
Speaker 1: excited about. They're one of the teams I'm really looking
Speaker 1: forward to seeing week one, Like what does this look like?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think you know, there's a probably a little bit
Speaker 3: of a contrast from the doom and gloom questions about
Speaker 3: his teammates and their relationships over the course of seven
Speaker 3: months not happening anymore. That can make things a little
Speaker 3: bit lighter at the podium. It's just odd to me
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of external conversation about the interior
Speaker 3: thoughts of Jalen Hurts when it's the same quotable Jalen
Speaker 3: Hurts that's available to everybody at all times. I just
Speaker 3: the conversation in Philly is so constant and overbearing and
Speaker 3: everlasting that that's what brings me joy is the capacity
Speaker 3: forward to end.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, you think it will end?
Speaker 3: No, just with regards to this rendition of the team,
Speaker 3: because eventually you run out of people to blame and
Speaker 3: perhaps that attention and maybe it'll all be focused on
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, but some of it we'll get to the
Speaker 3: head coach and the decision making and the process that
Speaker 3: goes into the making of those decisions where it's got
Speaker 3: to happen at some point and this is going to
Speaker 3: be the season for it.
Speaker 1: Do you think he entered into chat GPT? How do
Speaker 1: I stay off the hot seat? You know?
Speaker 2: What do I do?
Speaker 3: And maybe it probably was For a lot of people
Speaker 3: that would never listen to certain voices, the llms have
Speaker 3: been great because it gives them the chance to talk
Speaker 3: to somebody that doesn't exist, because those other voices might
Speaker 3: as well not exist to them.
Speaker 1: To something that is just you know, trawling through like
Speaker 1: three year old you know, rivals dot Com articles, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just picking out things and then spitting out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if there are forces of power in your life
Speaker 2: that don't listen to you, go on Reddit and make
Speaker 2: incessant comments about your worldview for the next six thousand
Speaker 2: years and perhaps that will collectively be up sucked into
Speaker 2: this death of thought.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Sirianni their head coaches embracing our new overlords.
Speaker 2: We're not.
Speaker 1: But the scheme that I talked about, and I think
Speaker 1: it will be a change from what Nick Sirianni's coaching tree,
Speaker 1: including Chanine Ssyke and runs, is going to look different
Speaker 1: for the offensive line. I'll talk about that for my
Speaker 1: scheme dream because Lane Johnson and Jordan Malatta and even
Speaker 1: Lane and Dickerson have talked about it in the preseason.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be very different for them too. I think
Speaker 1: their old scheme was a very like we're gonna ask
Speaker 1: you to win one on one, and it got to highlight.
Speaker 4: How good they were. Here.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit more of bean and sync, you know,
Speaker 1: especially with the with the running game, when Saquon Barklay
Speaker 1: hasn't really played in this sort of offense that often
Speaker 1: either I just am curious, like, what is it gonna
Speaker 1: look like for this offensive line? We know they're very talented,
Speaker 1: but they are gonna be asked to do different things.
Speaker 1: It could be Lane Johnson's last year sounds like it
Speaker 1: will be. Uh Lannon Dickerson's a guy who's had his
Speaker 1: injury struggles, but Melata is like an all pro caliber player.
Speaker 1: Cam Jurgens is a good player. Like, just what is
Speaker 1: it gonna look like? Is it gonna unlock even more
Speaker 1: for them? Could there be some growing pains because they're
Speaker 1: gonna be asked to do different things? And they have
Speaker 1: spoken about they think it's gonna make it easier, but
Speaker 1: they've really emphasized like it is really different. Like it
Speaker 1: like Lane Johnson specifically has been in one type of
Speaker 1: way of doing things and here he's now trying something different.
Speaker 3: And it's it's funny that it's different when there's this
Speaker 3: level of homogeny now throughout the league where so many
Speaker 3: like Mentor in his capacity for and again as a
Speaker 3: preseason game and nobody's showing a lot of things, it
Speaker 3: looked disjointed, It looked weird. I don't know if that
Speaker 3: was anything. Yeah, the Eagles offense in the opening preseason game.
Speaker 3: It did not lead to a lot of excitement to
Speaker 3: say like, oh yeah, the tree is here.
Speaker 2: To say Philadelphia, it.
Speaker 1: Was second and third stringers. They'll say they don't you know,
Speaker 1: game plan and all that stuff. But that's fair.
Speaker 4: What is schematically interesting you to this team?
Speaker 3: I think right because when my lott I was talking
Speaker 3: about their capacity to impact the field stretch wise, I
Speaker 3: think people consume that is, oh, we're gonna go down
Speaker 3: the field more. They went down the field all the time.
Speaker 3: I think he meant horizontally in terms of places to
Speaker 3: attack the defense in the run game as well as
Speaker 3: the pass game, that it's not just those those screens.
Speaker 3: To DeVonta Smith, I, it's the tree.
Speaker 4: Yeah, is it?
Speaker 3: Is it the same version? Is it more leaflora as
Speaker 3: it's coming from?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: You know this this Green Bay aspect of it where
Speaker 3: we've seen it in so many places. Can they can
Speaker 3: this group of players execute it to the extent that
Speaker 3: we see an others doing it?
Speaker 1: And how creative is it in terms of the running game,
Speaker 1: How creative can they execute the running game?
Speaker 4: How run heavy is it?
Speaker 1: Because I think Michae Lafleur or Matt Lafleur rather, that's
Speaker 1: where he you know, loves to live, and I'm excited
Speaker 1: to see it. I think we could get not a
Speaker 1: resurgent Saquon Barkley season, but I expect something between twenty
Speaker 1: four and twenty five in terms of his production, and
Speaker 1: maybe closer to twenty four just in terms of pure
Speaker 1: effectiveness this season. So I think Saquon Barkley could be better.
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith is going to be treated as a true
Speaker 1: number one. I think Doantavian Wicks is a really important
Speaker 1: player for them in terms of you talk about.
Speaker 2: He's more familiar with the offense than anybody else on.
Speaker 1: The team, and just according to training camp reports, makaile
Speaker 1: Lemon just hasn't been out there, and Darius Cooper, who
Speaker 1: I thought is making this team, was out there deep
Speaker 1: with the deep backups, and so I, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know about this receiver depth. I think they really
Speaker 1: want don Tavian Wicks to be a really crucial player
Speaker 1: for this offense. Who is your most important non quarterback
Speaker 1: on the team.
Speaker 3: It's Jalen Carter that I think, because the team relies
Speaker 3: on this defense, They rely on their defense to make plays.
Speaker 2: And with Dejean and and Quinnon and all.
Speaker 3: Of these guys that are there to facilitate the player
Speaker 3: that ultimately makes the plays. This Jalen Carter. I think
Speaker 3: that makes the most plays on this defense. That is
Speaker 3: the strength of the team.
Speaker 1: He wasn't as consistent last year as he was the
Speaker 1: year very hurt. He wasn't consistently healthy, and that's hard
Speaker 1: to predict. But that was my cho because I think
Speaker 1: the defense needs to be great. I think the defense
Speaker 1: should be great. It is looking really good at every level. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's the best looking defense in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Look on paper. Even It's tough to pick between them
Speaker 1: and the Texans. But if if you were telling me,
Speaker 1: take the coaches away, okay, and I'm just you just
Speaker 1: just get the eleven starters and you got to go
Speaker 1: play a game, and uh, and I'm coaching it, so
Speaker 1: basically they're going to coach themselves, I think I actually
Speaker 1: would take the Eagles. I mean, I just like I
Speaker 1: love them at every position. Ojamo has turned into a
Speaker 1: real player. Jordan Davis is such a player. They bring
Speaker 1: in Jonathan Gernard Riek Wollen was a free agent pick
Speaker 1: up I really liked from Seattle. You have quinnyan in
Speaker 1: Cooper de Gene, you have Jehad Campbell in his second year.
Speaker 1: You have pass rush depth with Jylex Hunt, and like you,
Speaker 1: you're bringing Nolan Smith off to I just I just
Speaker 1: think they have aunt Zach bond Is like a defensive
Speaker 1: player of the year. I just I know that the
Speaker 1: Texans are almost there. Maybe they're there, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's tough to pick between them. It's a stupid for instance,
Speaker 1: because those are my top two. Yeah, and it's by
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 3: I think Bernard takes it over the top because there's
Speaker 3: that interior versus edge where you may slide with the
Speaker 3: generational edges that they have in Houston. But the fact
Speaker 3: that the depth jumps out at you, you know, it's
Speaker 3: six and one hand half done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was It was a silly thing to bring up.
Speaker 1: My larger point is they're very good. They're great. But
Speaker 1: I also think Carter being the superstar and healthy is
Speaker 1: really important for everyone else because I think that really
Speaker 1: helps out the rest of the line things go wrong.
Speaker 1: If for this team, anything stand out to you of
Speaker 1: something you're you're worried about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's upheaval with regards to a slow adjustment for
Speaker 3: the offense, where if you want to make the parallels
Speaker 3: to to Matt Lafleur, there was the time Jordan loved
Speaker 3: to grow and learn and adjust and maybe more patience
Speaker 3: with regards.
Speaker 4: Even like the first half of the season with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so like there was are they going to
Speaker 3: be able to undergo that same adjustment period? But again,
Speaker 3: the overbearing feeling of constant dread that's not just exclusive
Speaker 3: to the Philadelphia fans, Like it's in the building. You've
Speaker 3: got constant leaks about how people feel and like what
Speaker 3: they're doing. It's just a place where everything could fall
Speaker 3: apart on really nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're a team where you could see the vibes
Speaker 1: impacting the overall product, because I think it has in
Speaker 1: multiple seasons, especially what was it three years ago now,
Speaker 1: the year between their two Super Bowl appearances, but even
Speaker 1: last year, like I don't think they were having a
Speaker 1: great time, but by the end of the year and
Speaker 1: it impacted them. I think, yeah, things go wrong, Like
Speaker 1: if the defense isn't dominant, there's every reason to believe
Speaker 1: that it will. But I just think this team is
Speaker 1: built to be a top five defense and the offense
Speaker 1: be good enough. Another thing I could say would be
Speaker 1: like the new blood that they brought in. I am
Speaker 1: excited about it. Grenard's got an injury though right now
Speaker 1: mkaith Lemon hasn't shown a lot just because of injury.
Speaker 1: Uh as well Rieke Willen I think is going to
Speaker 1: be an important player for them. So just some of
Speaker 1: the additions wis you know, how do they all integrate?
Speaker 4: Is going to be important for them.
Speaker 1: The ceiling and floor for this team, I think it's
Speaker 1: more of a conversation about the floor.
Speaker 4: Do you agree with me that that they can win
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: Like this group of guys does nothing but either like
Speaker 3: get a coach fire or go to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: Like it'd be simpy to not say that they could
Speaker 2: they couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: And to me, if you're power ranking the NFC, I
Speaker 1: do think just before the season starts, and this isn't
Speaker 1: a prediction of how it'll finish, but I do think
Speaker 1: you got to kind of give them the credit. To
Speaker 1: me as the third team behind Seattle and the Rams,
Speaker 1: that's just me. If I'm if I'm forced to slot
Speaker 1: teams in terms of total talent and like average baseline expectations.
Speaker 1: I kind of slot the Eagles as a solid number
Speaker 1: three because I think there's more questions everywhere else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you get you gotta get team, you gotta
Speaker 1: get into the Cowboys just now really how it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: But I just kind of mean the baseline average season
Speaker 1: to me there third, I'm more interested, what do you
Speaker 1: think the floor is for this team?
Speaker 3: I think eight ooh, that would be tough. That would
Speaker 3: be a nasty season.
Speaker 2: But like.
Speaker 3: Considering the way things looked towards the end there and
Speaker 3: albeit that was a Jalen Carter with two shoulder injuries,
Speaker 3: like the offense in disarray.
Speaker 1: That was an eleven win team too, that was beating
Speaker 1: up on some of the bad teams at the end
Speaker 1: of the year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just mean at the end of the
Speaker 3: season when things were more rose and they get ran
Speaker 3: out of their own building by the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: Ultimately, it's it's crazy, how you know. I mean, they
Speaker 1: were in that game late, but it's crazy though that
Speaker 1: that has been Like the way you just described the
Speaker 1: end of the season describes three of the last five
Speaker 1: Sirianni seasons like the weight of Philadelphia and how the
Speaker 1: season ended was so negative by the end of three
Speaker 1: of the last five, even though you know, like you said,
Speaker 1: they won the super Bowl and could have won in
Speaker 1: the other two. Now, I'm going to put their their
Speaker 1: floor at ten wins. You know, they've been eleven or
Speaker 1: about four street years. I just think there's too many
Speaker 1: good players. I kind of think it's like a lot
Speaker 1: has gone wrong actually for them in some of those
Speaker 1: bad years and they still manage to win like eleven games.
Speaker 1: So to me, I'll say ten is the floor, and yeah,
Speaker 1: the ceiling is.
Speaker 4: The roof is uh there? It is a super Bowl
Speaker 4: appearance here in Los Angeles that we're covering.
Speaker 3: I'll just have them at that floor because I'm like,
Speaker 3: if everybody else hits their ceiling, all right, if everybody
Speaker 3: else in their division hits the ceiling.
Speaker 1: It has potential to be a sneaky good division. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the Commanders. To me, they are kind of
Speaker 1: the X factor. They would bring this division up to
Speaker 1: a much higher level if they are anywhere close to
Speaker 1: where they were a couple of years ago. But even
Speaker 1: if they're just like a playoff contending team. What's bringing
Speaker 1: you joy about the Commanders.
Speaker 2: Jade's back, he's back, he's healthy.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the dispute with LSU kind of puts a cloud
Speaker 3: over the thing, and like like give me my Jersey,
Speaker 3: give me the trophy back and all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: But the fact that.
Speaker 1: I kind of feel bad for him here, so I've
Speaker 1: mostly avoided it. But yeah, let's just get out of
Speaker 1: this storyline if we can. Okay, no, not you, I mean,
Speaker 1: like everyone involved, Lica Jaden, like, let's just settle this, please.
Speaker 3: Please, because it's weird, it's uncomfortable, it's awkward. But having
Speaker 3: him on the field like brings back the memories of
Speaker 3: the Magical Commander's season that it was not so long ago,
Speaker 3: and we it's a little bit glimpse of that and
Speaker 3: with the hope and the promise of the future.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jaden in this offense, just getting to watch him
Speaker 1: play again, that's it for me. I mean, I didn't
Speaker 1: want to get too complicated.
Speaker 4: He is such a mystery.
Speaker 1: I don't assume that Jaden Daniels is locked into like
Speaker 1: one of our top ten quarterbacks, you know, if we're
Speaker 1: drafting or we're taking for the next seven or eight years.
Speaker 1: I think there's an outcome where he is absolutely like
Speaker 1: elite hashtag, you know, like like Joe Flack like, but
Speaker 1: he's like top five, like we're talking about him. But
Speaker 1: he's a young he's a young player that's that had
Speaker 1: such an erratic second season where it was injuries but
Speaker 1: also didn't look as comfortable and he was in such
Speaker 1: a goofy offense that ultimately I think was probably bad
Speaker 1: news for his development. And now it's like a restart.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of reasons to believe he is going
Speaker 1: to be a great NFL quarterback for the next decade,
Speaker 1: but I just want to see it happening because he
Speaker 1: has such a unique skill set. I love hearing how
Speaker 1: comfortable his footwork has looked into practices and the joint practices.
Speaker 1: Over all, the Commanders reporting has been really positive about
Speaker 1: the under center stuff, and it'll be fun to see that, Well,
Speaker 1: who is your most important non quarterback on this team.
Speaker 3: So the Tunsil injury means that Brandon Coleman moves from
Speaker 3: left guard to left tackle. Yeah, which is no Now
Speaker 3: this centerpiece of the shell game where the line could
Speaker 3: start to deteriorate if there's no Brandon Coleman, and so
Speaker 3: like if the whole thing, because they need to be
Speaker 3: able to run the ball. You're gonna have blow calling
Speaker 3: the plays and Jayden under center, and they need in
Speaker 3: order for the roots of the tree. It's the run
Speaker 3: game here, and so like, if that's going to happen,
Speaker 3: you have to keep everybody intact. And now Brandon Coleman
Speaker 3: is the centerpiece of that.
Speaker 1: Not only that, they've been missing their center, Ali Gretti,
Speaker 1: who they tabb to replace Tyler Biatish last year. There
Speaker 1: was a lot of like free rushers getting at Jayden
Speaker 1: Daniels and Marcus Mariota reading between the lines. It felt
Speaker 1: like the staff was maybe blaming like the center quarterback
Speaker 1: operation a little bit on that, and so they make
Speaker 1: a change. But Ali Gretti hasn't really played much center
Speaker 1: and he's been hurt all of camp. You have like
Speaker 1: a practice squad guy Julian good Jones behind him. Parts
Speaker 1: are moving around. And I listened to Logan Paul on
Speaker 1: this Take Command podcast. He's really good breaking it down.
Speaker 1: He's very positive in general about the Commanders, but he
Speaker 1: said just one thing he has been watching is like
Speaker 1: the running game specifically the interior running game like they
Speaker 1: are learning this new system, and that's where Bill hasn't
Speaker 1: had a lot of room necessarily in these joint practices.
Speaker 1: In practice in general, parts are moving around. Josh Connerley,
Speaker 1: their first round pick a year ago, really physically talented,
Speaker 1: but he's a little bit of a boomer Bus guy.
Speaker 1: Sam Cosmy was an All Pro. He had a serious
Speaker 1: injuries coming back from Chris Paul is another starter who
Speaker 1: was out there in free agency for a while and
Speaker 1: then came back.
Speaker 4: And so you're right.
Speaker 1: I think the offensive line could hold this team back potentially,
Speaker 1: and I think Coleman might be the most important part.
Speaker 1: I'm glad he pointed out Tunsel is out for so
Speaker 1: much of the season. My most important non quarterback first
Speaker 1: time I picked a GM for this, it's Adam Peters,
Speaker 1: who like talk about up and down like man. Everything
Speaker 1: he did like hit his first year, it did not
Speaker 1: hit last year. And considering HiT's the third year in
Speaker 1: the program. They are counting on a million signings from
Speaker 1: this offseason, not only to pan out, but they're just
Speaker 1: going to be playing like eight hundred to a thousand snaps.
Speaker 1: So Adam pieriders, I hope you're right about. Here's some
Speaker 1: of the key guys. This is my way of reviewing
Speaker 1: the off season because I think it's more important for
Speaker 1: them than just about any team. Calebon Chason had a
Speaker 1: nice year as a pass rusher for the Patriots. He's
Speaker 1: going to be playing starter snap. Nick Cross got a
Speaker 1: nice contract. He is a safety that I really liked
Speaker 1: for the Colts, and so will he pan out A
Speaker 1: Dafeoway a little up and down, I would say in
Speaker 1: his career. Timed a good half season with the Chargers
Speaker 1: before getting a big contract here.
Speaker 4: He's going to be important.
Speaker 1: Charles Amanahu, Dran's Armstrong are guys that they sign, maybe
Speaker 1: more depth pieces, but Armstrong will play. Armstrong is suspended
Speaker 1: for the first week of the season.
Speaker 4: Important.
Speaker 1: Chigo Konquo, by all accounts, going to be kind of
Speaker 1: a centerpiece of this offense. I like a lot of
Speaker 1: these signings. I got to say on paper, they signed
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. I like Leo Chanell is another one,
Speaker 1: a linebacker from the Chiefs who kind of has a
Speaker 1: pass rusher type of role throwing. Stephan Diggs He's going
Speaker 1: to really matter. I think he upgraded the receiver like
Speaker 1: I actually like these moves, I don't Usually they don't
Speaker 1: all work out, but if you hit on two thirds
Speaker 1: of these, they're going to be a pretty good team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mind, they've mind the NFL for guys who
Speaker 3: had flashes with an opportunity to kind of continue that
Speaker 3: if we you know, extrapolated out with more snaps, like
Speaker 3: that's the common.
Speaker 2: Thread to all of them. Does it work for all
Speaker 2: of them?
Speaker 4: Right? Digs? I feel yeah, other than stuff on DIGS,
Speaker 4: I feel digs.
Speaker 1: I feel safe about Nick Cross is actually the other
Speaker 1: one where I think he put two or three years
Speaker 1: of good tape out there. Yeah, like yeah, the others,
Speaker 1: can you coach him up? And like that's just a
Speaker 1: lot of new guys. Generally I'm skeptical, but because he
Speaker 1: chose players I personally enjoy watching play, I'm relatively optimistic here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys that if he plays and splashes, then and
Speaker 3: that's what because Charles Men who was out here for
Speaker 3: the media summit, as guys you know, practice their skills
Speaker 3: and holding their skills to eventually have the second career.
Speaker 3: And that was the thing that he had stressed, was
Speaker 3: the fact that they're going to attack. It's there's not
Speaker 3: a lot of read and react stuff going on in
Speaker 3: the counds and so this is a group of guys
Speaker 3: that can do that.
Speaker 1: Right, we haven't mentioned and I guess that's giving my
Speaker 1: scheme dream. Deronte Jones comes from Brian Flores. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you were going in the same direction there
Speaker 1: to talk about something schibmatically, he comes from Minnesota, will
Speaker 1: now be running first time coordinator for the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 3: And and that's it goes along with that theme. My
Speaker 3: scheme dream was looking over at the the blou version
Speaker 3: of the offense. But if they can because dan Quinn's teams,
Speaker 3: like when they have been successful, they've been able to
Speaker 3: take the ball away, create chaos over on.
Speaker 2: The defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3: It's like a wholesale change and dq' is still there
Speaker 3: and so like that has to be a focus.
Speaker 1: To try to know it's crazy. It's like I didn't
Speaker 1: even mention like there were more I Mek robertson. I
Speaker 1: think it's going to start for this team. Razull Douglas
Speaker 1: is on this team. Trey Amos, who had a nice
Speaker 1: rookie season, has been hurt all camp. That when I'm
Speaker 1: a little concerned about I love the idea of this
Speaker 1: scheme and that Flores should and could have a tree.
Speaker 4: It's it's been effective.
Speaker 1: It's it's rolling the dice and Sonny styles Is is
Speaker 1: right there in the middle of it as a top
Speaker 1: ten pick that I'm really excited about watching and him
Speaker 1: and Frankie Lulu, Like, this team is going to get funky.
Speaker 1: We we are going to debut the teams I'm most
Speaker 1: excited to see week one in an upcoming show. Another
Speaker 1: team they're they're they're pretty up there. Yeah, David Blough
Speaker 1: you mentioned, is their new offensive coordinator, Like, is there
Speaker 1: anything you're looking for in general?
Speaker 2: Just to find out, just to find out who David
Speaker 2: Blau is. Who you know?
Speaker 3: It's it's the theme he came in sos We're gonna
Speaker 3: make the best of the talent that we have and
Speaker 3: put them in positions to win. Apparently there was a
Speaker 3: bidding war between Ben Johnson and Dan Campbell that ultimately
Speaker 3: led to David blow getting promoted to this job at
Speaker 3: thirty one years old because they wanted to keep him
Speaker 3: on the staff. We've seen those things go all kinds
Speaker 3: of different ways. That there's a similar situation in Denver
Speaker 3: now where you've got a younger former quarterback calling the
Speaker 3: plays because they didn't want to lose him, and so
Speaker 3: just get an opportunity to find out who David Blow
Speaker 3: is and why was it so necessary as a lot
Speaker 3: of former players have to navigate the coaching ranks for
Speaker 3: a long time before they even sniff even close to
Speaker 3: a relatively close to the head job on either side
Speaker 3: of the ball, and he got there pretty quick.
Speaker 1: I think we got a clue from Quarterback the Netflix show.
Speaker 1: I thought Jade and Daniels' section of the show is
Speaker 1: the least revealing of the quarterbacks by far. My biggest
Speaker 1: takeaway that I didn't know before was how close I
Speaker 1: think his relationship is with David Blow. Those two are
Speaker 1: on the same page, and I think they just viewed
Speaker 1: that tandem as one they wanted to see, you know, continue,
Speaker 1: and that that he would be a good steward for
Speaker 1: like making the most important guy in the in the
Speaker 1: organization work.
Speaker 2: So it's all on Cliff.
Speaker 1: It's just like, I don't know, maybe it was just
Speaker 1: the edit, but they definitely like it. It definitely seemed like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Jayden like Bloo is Jayden's guy, and vice versa. That
Speaker 1: happens with your position, coach' that's how it should be.
Speaker 1: Things go wrong if blank for this team.
Speaker 3: If they can't run the ball, yeah, if they If
Speaker 3: they can't run the ball, they can't facilitate the play
Speaker 3: action game under center. I think with the offensive line injuries,
Speaker 3: it just all falls apart if they can't facilitate a
Speaker 3: run game within the first five game.
Speaker 1: Pretty skeptical about this running game. I think Jayden will
Speaker 1: help open it up in a way, but also him
Speaker 1: figuring out his balance of when to run when not
Speaker 1: too We tried to avoid injuries in this segment, but
Speaker 1: it's less about the injury to me as just him
Speaker 1: calibrating how aggressive do I need to be as a
Speaker 1: runner because I'm so good at it. He led the
Speaker 1: NFL and scrambles per snap last year and he was like,
Speaker 1: I think second the year before that. So that's what
Speaker 1: he does and he's great at it.
Speaker 2: Diggs will alleviate some of that, I hope.
Speaker 3: So as long as Diggs and Terry are on the
Speaker 3: field at the same time, some of that will get
Speaker 3: alleviate it.
Speaker 4: Diggs, Diggs is a bucket. Diggs is.
Speaker 1: Still so high level and I'm not surprised at all
Speaker 1: from the commanders reporters there that like the second he
Speaker 1: was on the field, they were like, oh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like one A, one B Like Terry obviously is their
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver, but he's so much better than
Speaker 1: every other receiver that they had before that it actually
Speaker 1: like you're like, oh, this is what it looks like.
Speaker 1: Really intriguing combo. I mean, imagine McLaurin and Digs together
Speaker 1: at the peak of their powers. There's some similarities with
Speaker 1: them as a as a route runner and their versatility.
Speaker 1: If Blou can cook, you know, Daniels, Digs, McLaurin, and
Speaker 1: a Konkwa. I'm even gonna throw in there because he's
Speaker 1: an interesting piece of how you're going to use him.
Speaker 1: It's quite a like okay, how are we going to
Speaker 1: move these puzzle pieces around? It's very intriguing group if healthy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you know the astrous caveat there, but excited
Speaker 3: to see, you know, an offense where Chigo Konquo's incredible
Speaker 3: athleticism and explosiveness with the ball in his hands gets
Speaker 3: utilized because it kind of we kind of missed.
Speaker 4: We did a lot of that.
Speaker 1: He was like full Chig as a rookie and then
Speaker 1: he just kind of stayed there, never never really developed
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. But I want him to run where John
Speaker 1: new Smith briskly job kind of. I think he can
Speaker 1: be the next passing the torch, the next John new
Speaker 1: Smith ceiling floor for this team, I'll let you go
Speaker 1: first here.
Speaker 3: My ceiling floors have had a lot of but I
Speaker 3: will have them one game plus uh on the On
Speaker 3: the Giants, I think they could win eleven games, okay,
Speaker 3: as the ceiling and also the floor being seven.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good floor for them. I think it's lower.
Speaker 1: I'll go six.
Speaker 4: For them.
Speaker 1: It's they're in a tough spot where dan Quinn has
Speaker 1: been there, and yet this feels like a first year
Speaker 1: still because of all the new players and the new
Speaker 1: offense and how.
Speaker 4: Does it all fit.
Speaker 2: The first year went pretty good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good point. I think they'll be good.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the floor is closer to seven and the
Speaker 1: ceiling for me is yeah, an eleven win team. I
Speaker 1: have a hard time seeing them win the division, but
Speaker 1: if you win eleven games, you certainly could. I think
Speaker 1: it's a wild guard appearance and coming in second in
Speaker 1: this division and being a factor again, I am. I
Speaker 1: am not ruling that out for the Commanders. Now as
Speaker 1: we've taped, there has been some breaking news inside the
Speaker 1: division that I think will particularly interest you as a
Speaker 1: supporter of this player.
Speaker 4: Do you know what it is?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you're you're on it.
Speaker 2: We didn't get an email.
Speaker 1: I even hinted about it as we were talking. The
Speaker 1: Giants are signing free agent Naj Harris to a one
Speaker 1: year deal.
Speaker 4: It was rumored.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the you know, the the Joe.
Speaker 3: The Joe Shane Uh circumstances where you wonder who the
Speaker 3: decisions are being or I don't wonder or being made
Speaker 3: by this is this is Harball all over.
Speaker 1: It, Harbor, It's Harbaugh, and Harbaugh's consiglieris and Uh and
Speaker 1: Joe Shane's there too. That's that's how I value it
Speaker 1: is interesting. It happened, you know, right after that tough
Speaker 1: moment by Tyrone Tracy where Harbaugh, to believe, blame Tracy
Speaker 1: for Jackson Dark getting lit up. I think Tyrone Tracy
Speaker 1: is a good player, but someone here between him singletary
Speaker 1: Naja Harris Skataboo is obviously going to be a big
Speaker 1: part of the mix. If not the starter for sure,
Speaker 1: So someone's going to get left out here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a rough rep of RB protection. But
Speaker 3: a certain part of it is, you know, not putting
Speaker 3: your quarterback or running back in a situation where that
Speaker 3: could happen.
Speaker 1: I also think they have to be a little worried
Speaker 1: about Cam Skataboo.
Speaker 4: Not the biggest running back in the world.
Speaker 1: You don't want him to have three hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: four hundred touches. I think he's going to be better
Speaker 1: in a committee. So who is that committee with. I
Speaker 1: think Tracy is a pretty reliable player. Naja Harris is
Speaker 1: coming off a torn achilles. It could even be something
Speaker 1: where he's not available early in the season, but you
Speaker 1: almost bring him in as a replacement. Juju Smith Schuster
Speaker 1: was released as part of that transaction. Might be the
Speaker 1: end of the line for Juju. What a weird career,
Speaker 1: you know, outsized influence for you know, how how soon
Speaker 1: it might be ending, you know, but we had we
Speaker 1: had some good times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some really good times. He made He made tiktoks
Speaker 2: and people were like.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, this is crazy. This is the weirdest
Speaker 5: thing anybody's ever done. Is this okay, Mike Tomlin, are
Speaker 5: you okay with this Chinese social media app? And then
Speaker 5: you know, uh that that wasn't a big deal. There
Speaker 5: was the the the perfect incidents, uh, the divergence with
Speaker 5: Antonio Brown and the and the team and then the
Speaker 5: chief stint shout out to Juju?
Speaker 1: How about first of all was nine years ten if
Speaker 1: you count this year. But I kind of doubt he's
Speaker 1: going to end up being on a week one roster,
Speaker 1: although it's certainly possible.
Speaker 4: He hasn't.
Speaker 1: He hasn't had much production in the last three seasons. Now,
Speaker 1: how about that season with the Chiefs as we bid
Speaker 1: a do to uh Juju Smith Schuster that I don't
Speaker 1: think people will really remember that much. And yet he
Speaker 1: ends up with nine hundred regular season yards for the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion Chiefs wild wild career, big input. Let's
Speaker 1: wrap up giving our division picks. We go one through four.
Speaker 1: You have to make a decision. What are the final standings.
Speaker 1: You know you have to include tie breakers if they
Speaker 1: have the same record, you don't have to give the record.
Speaker 4: But one, two, three, four.
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Commanders, New York Giants.
Speaker 4: That was my order.
Speaker 1: Early in the offseason, I don't want to be and
Speaker 1: this happens to me swayed by Like the closer I
Speaker 1: get to the season, then I start like rethinking it,
Speaker 1: and now I'm like, why am I.
Speaker 4: Doubting the Eagles again?
Speaker 1: Like, on balance, they just have so many great players
Speaker 1: and I actually think Jalen Hurts is a perfectly good
Speaker 1: starting quarterback with enough people around him, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: Eagles in the end. I've always I've been annoyed at
Speaker 1: myself when I don't just stay high on the Eagles
Speaker 1: because their their floor has been so high. But I
Speaker 1: do have the Cowboys as like one of the best
Speaker 1: wild card teams and making the playoffs.
Speaker 4: I'm boring.
Speaker 1: I got the same exact order because I think the Commanders.
Speaker 1: I think the Commanders are going to be spicy. Not
Speaker 1: everyone can be good in this division, though, and so
Speaker 1: so maybe the Giants are closer to their floor.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, Subterranean.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, we can't get cute with all
Speaker 1: our our divisions, And like.
Speaker 2: I said, Greg, You're always cute.
Speaker 4: Thank you. I'll take that as a compliment.
Speaker 1: What a week this has been already on the around
Speaker 1: Oh he did it? I was gonna say, let's edit
Speaker 1: that out, but you know, it's a natural thing. We're
Speaker 1: here in a studio that we taped many many episodes
Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL podcast, which was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun to do. But now we're NFL Daily and
Speaker 1: we're coming at you all the time. Do you know
Speaker 1: who's on our next show, Patrick, I don't think you do.
Speaker 2: I don't, and if you told me then I probably
Speaker 2: would have forgotten.
Speaker 4: We got a special guest.
Speaker 1: ESPN's own your coworker, Mina Kimes is joining us. Oh cool,
Speaker 1: So I'm really looking forward to that one that will
Speaker 1: be next in your feed. That'll be Thursday morning. But
Speaker 1: always good when Patrick is here. Patrick is going to
Speaker 1: continue to mean here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not going anywhere, neither are we.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we're really looking forward to the show with
Speaker 1: Mina preseason week two coming up.
Speaker 4: We'll be back Thursday morning.
Speaker 2: See that