WEBVTT - NFC East Preview 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:08.479 Welcome to NFL Daily, where all divisions are created equal, 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:11.160 but the NFC is a little more equal. I'm Greg 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:14.520 Rosenthal here in the Chris Westleying podcast studio with my 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.439 friend Patrick Claybahn. That's a little bit of a joke there, Patrick, 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:23.200 because you know the shadowy League figures the schedule makers, 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:25.640 it's they're all about the NFC East. They're just always 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:27.480 hoping the NFC East can be good so that they 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:29.520 can just put them in primetime all the time. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:31.120 And that's how you feel. 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:33.159 Imagine how the people who are not fans of a 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.280 team in the East might feel, or the general viewer 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.559 when it's like Week twelve and here's you know, a 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.120 non Jackson Dark Giants team playing on Monday Night. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:43.560 I've been that guy. Over the years. 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:48.680 The Giants and Commanders have been the most egregious members, 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:51.600 always in primetime, the old Washington team, especially back in 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:51.919 the day. 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:53.480 It's just like just trotting them out there. 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:59.120 And yet I surmise this season, oh, Patrick, that they 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.360 are one of the most interesting divisions, that they are 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.360 going to be worthy of that much airtime. Because even 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.560 if the Commanders and the Giants, maybe they're not projected 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.280 to go to the playoffs. I think top to bottom. 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:13.080 If I'm ranking like most interesting divisions, worst case, they're 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.440 in the middle this year, they're not very often in 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.120 the last ten fifteen years, it kind of been at 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.080 the bottom. I think all four of these teams were 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.000 going to preview today are intrigument Yes, I mean. 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:24.119 Well again, we got thirty two interesting teams. The problems 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.560 with the schedule makers is, you know, certain things are 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:31.440 made for ever audience, maybe viewer, not necessarily people who 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.040 are dialed in and watching NFL Network listening to the 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:34.600 NFL days. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:35.560 They're not all ego though. 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.920 There's like there's like four to there's like six to 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:40.000 eight that are a little less intriguing I think from 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:43.600 like a national broadcast perspective. But even the giants, I 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.560 mean they got some top line talent. We'll get to 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.200 them second. Because what we do on this show. If 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.280 you've been tuning in and this is number seven, so 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.200 we don't play favorites NFC East, they're not, you know, 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:58.400 closing the show and you know they're just in the middle, 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.040 seventh out of our eight division. In previews, we have 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:04.720 a twelve minute clock for every team. Soft clock not 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.080 a hard one, So sometimes you go a little over. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:12.280 I give you some categories, we both answer those categories, 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.120 and then at the end we predict how this division 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:19.160 is going to finish. We go in alphabetical order by 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:23.160 the city. The Dallas Cowboys get us going. A young 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:27.760 Patrick Claybah once rooted for his favorite player, DeMarcus where 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.400 when he was on the Cowboys. Let's start here even 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.840 before what's bringing us joy? Which is usually how I start. 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.919 But since we've last taped, Von Miller is a member 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.760 of the Dallas Cowboys. Does that remind you, Yeah, a 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:40.799 little bit of your guy. 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.560 Yeah, that's why he's my most important ark. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:46.600 No, but can the parallels there as dware goes to 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.000 the Denver Broncos on tail and he wasn't at the 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.560 tail end of his career that Von Miller is, but 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.560 you know, just outside or maybe towards the end of 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.200 his prime, goes and gets a ring there, and Vaughn, 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.959 after recording the franchise on social media for what feels 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.920 like the last five months, as finally you know, acquired 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:06.880 a spot on his on his hometown team. But I 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:08.520 think it's another player on the defensive line. I think 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:13.560 Quentin Williams is the most important non quarterback because again, 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.520 the defense was so bad and there's only so much 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.120 you can do. To ask a rookie free agent, I 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.880 mean a rookie at free safety in Caleb downs to 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:23.880 do and to take over everything it has to be 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.480 quin Williams, you had the highest pressure percentage among all 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:30.120 defensive tackles in the entire league after the trade, and 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.200 so I think that is where the true importance is 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.240 on the interior of the Cowboys defensive line. 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.560 I love that you just like, we don't have to 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.480 do these categories in any sort of order, and I 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.520 agree with you. I was thinking about the same thing 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.080 when thinking about most important non quarterback, and I got 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:47.720 a little cute because Quinn Williams, I think, is the 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:52.880 more like, the more like logically answer. He's got to 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:56.080 be He's got to be great, but there's no reason 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.320 to think he won't be great. Donamanezerakus who I picked. 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.960 And so it was going along with this von Miller 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:06.480 signing in general that the money they gave von Miller, 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.640 like over five million dollar base salary, and you could say. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.560 Like that's the respect for a player who's done a 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:12.119 lot in the league. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.680 But that's a significant amount of money at this point 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.320 in free agency. That tells me like you're gonna have 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.080 a role. Does that make me worried a little bit 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.440 about how they saw the rest of their edge position 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.360 now the reports in camp, or maybe Malachi Lawrence, their 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.320 first round pick, maybe not ready to make a huge 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.000 instant impact, so it could be a little bit more 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:33.120 about that. I thought Sam Williams, who they brought back, 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.760 has been having a good camp reportedly, but maybe, you know, 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.120 maybe they're not counting on too much from him. Rashan 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.159 Gary is who he is. I think he's a solid 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.400 NFL player. I don't think he's going to change your life. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.359 Eziaku to me, is kind of the key one of 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.160 this whole defensive line because they work as a defense 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.479 if they are deep along the defensive front. We talked 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.800 about defensive tackle, but Aziraku is the chance to be 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.279 special out of that group, to make a big leap 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.600 and to have a difference maker. Because I see a 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:02.599 lot of solid players, I want a difference maker, and 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.120 I think as Araku in his second year and the 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.599 reports have been good so far, could be a difference maker. 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.680 Let's let's go back and let's talk about what's bringing 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.560 you joy with this Dallas Cowboys. 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.320 I think what's bringing me joy is we kind of 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:20.720 talked about the overall feeling of fatigue regarding vision and 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.640 I think a lot of that fatigue is also placed 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.560 on the Dallas Cowboys. But there appears to be this 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.239 begrudging acknowledgment that. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:29.719 This team is good. 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:34.200 Yes, the people who have cast a franchise and you know, 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:38.279 mainly due to the actions of its ownership to the side, 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.919 I have come back to take this grim sense of 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.520 the Dallas Cowboys are good like it's it's not homersm 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.240 for people to talk about it. It's not like this 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:52.200 overwhelming pressure from capital to talk about the Dallas Cowboys 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.880 like they're they're going to be a good football team. 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.480 I think that it brings me joy in that it's changed. 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.320 That doesn't bring me joy in the sense like you 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.200 accuse me of being a Cowboys fan would this time, 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.760 which you don't do anymore. But that does bring me 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.839 joy because the cyclical nature of the ability of football 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:09.720 teams has come back around for the Cowboys. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:15.440 We enjoy watching certain players, we enjoy watching excellent offense. 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.080 I think Dak Prescott is a man we've enjoyed watching 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:19.720 at his peak, and that's what's bringing me joy. And 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.240 it's very similar to what you said there that we're 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.719 kind of set up for Dak three point zero or 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:26.919 four point zero, how you want to. 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:27.280 Think about it. 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.680 If you think about Dak's career, he's always been very good. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.159 He's had some devastating injuries to come back from, but 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.839 I do think his peaks have been especially special. His 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:40.000 rookie season where he gets an MVP vote, like as 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.880 a rookie, that was the Matt Ryan rookie year. 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:44.599 That's just next level. 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:49.839 I think about the first McCarthy Division title year where 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.600 they led the league in points. That was a special 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.800 Dak year. I think that was maybe his comeback Player 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:00.839 of the Year vote year the top. Yeah, him and 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.560 Burrow came back in the same season, so they split 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.400 the votes. Burrow ended up getting it, but that was 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.200 a special year. And then a couple of years ago 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.880 he's second in MVP. But now that's actually three years removed, 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.560 so I guess those are three really specially. I just 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:16.080 think we're all set up with Pickens is still here, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.960 having a great camp. The offensive line to me is 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.600 enough shoddy. I think is a good head coach and 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.440 it's year two of an offense where everyone like it's 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.000 just set up for him to live up to those 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.280 shirts he's wearing where they're going to be like the 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.520 best offense in the league and he's wearing super Bowl shirts. 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.600 It is very exciting that DAK is set up for 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.520 this sort of season. So we did the most important 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.760 non quarterbacks one of the categories here is just something 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:47.400 schematic related that gets your your football loins as juicing 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:48.560 seame dream well. 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:52.720 Yeah, and ultimately because Christian Parker would like to escape 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.920 this giant shadow that is cast all over the league 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:57.080 in terms of Vic Fangiol. 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:58.960 He's connected to everything as you've their. 0:07:58.840 --> 0:07:59.800 New defensive coordinator. 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:03.760 Yeah, so Christian Parker comes in and we're not going 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.640 to really see all of the coverage disguising everything in 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.040 the preseason, So just have to kind of base it 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.720 off of what Christian Parker was saying over the course 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.680 of the summer, which sounds like everything that everybody says. 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:17.800 Here's the quote, We're going to be multiple. 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.320 Whatever you form a defensive structure is about the players 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.360 you have or our cour pencibles will be three four 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.520 by nature, but four to three spacing will be appropriate. 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:29.800 All that coming in just to acknowledge the sameness of 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.840 what all the coordinators say when they start. But I 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.240 think as we see the front seven, specifically the off 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:39.320 ball linebackers get a little bit bigger for Dallas, there'll 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.480 be this capacity to kind of limit things on the 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.960 inside where for years they've been getting run all over. 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.360 There was no amount of scheming that Matt Eberflus could do, 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.560 you know, as limited as things were with his capacity 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.520 for that last season. Between the talent, the play calling, everything, 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.679 I don't think it is just coach beak to hear 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.360 Christian Parker say these things, yeah, and to talk about 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:04.800 the way that they're going to approach things because they 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.000 have the players to facilitate that scheme. Not to the 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.200 extent that Vic Fangio, you know, had a future Defensive 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:12.880 Player of the Year and Patrick's Artan when he had 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:14.719 queen Ya Mitchell come in as a rookie and be 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:16.760 able to stay on one side of the field for forever. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.959 They don't have that level of talent. But I think 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.640 there's something to be excited about there. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.360 I totally agree, and look, he was with vic in 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.079 Denver as well. He was with like Patrick Sartan. He's 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.840 had a little Vans Joseph time, so he's learned from 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:36.840 the best. I think of those systems as so secondary 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:40.200 dependent that that is my things go wrong if oh, 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:44.920 like he doesn't have the pieces enough in the back end. 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.280 Now on paper, it looks a little better than a 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.400 year ago. Shavon Ravel is a player they took high 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.440 in the draft knowing he wasn't going to contribute as 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.400 a rookie really, and he didn't. He struggled down the stretch. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.920 He's reportedly looked better. Dron Bland is healthy, so he's back. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.400 They signed Kobe Durant, but that's kind of a middling 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.240 solid replacing guy midlan is Ow. 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:06.960 Sorry. 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.720 They signed Jalen Thompson, a guy from Arizona who's played 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.679 a lot of STAPs, has not practiced in campleing he's 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.760 just been hurt the whole time. So Malie Hooker is 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.000 a guy some people around the team wonder like, is 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.400 he long for this roster. It's putting a lot on 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.440 Caleb Downs as a rookie, and Caleb Downs could be 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.199 that dude. But That's kind of why I started with 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:26.800 we're talking pass rush. The pass rush can make the 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.480 back end. I don't see a great secondary there. I 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:34.240 think I see a hoping to be solid, and solid 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.160 would be a big improvement from a year ago. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.200 Yeah, And that was why things go wrong if if 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.960 darn Bitbland isn't all the way back after two consecutive 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.640 years with foot injuries, because then you start, which is 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:46.240 going to be kind of a theme with this division, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.200 that shell game of all right, well so did we've 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.240 done this to make up for this, and then eventually 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.920 the whole thing just kind of collapses where yeah, if 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.160 they if they can't cover it, we don't need like 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:02.400 Defensive Player of the Year candidate Ron Bland for things 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.240 to work, like they need. 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:06.000 Just Deron Bland. 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:07.679 Yeah, just the guy that be out there, out there 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.839 on the field for fifteen games would alleviate a lot 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:12.280 of concern. 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:13.800 I think that's true. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.560 And Christian Parker, who's been a rising name I think 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.839 in coaching circles for a while, he did the thing 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.480 that Bill Barcels always said was important. I thought that, 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:26.079 you know, sometimes Bill Barcells spoke some bs. Sometimes it 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.120 was truth and or are. 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:29.440 We putting the balance on that. If you put it 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:30.240 right in the middle. 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:34.040 It's pretty. It's pretty in the middle. Oh yeah, we disagree. 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:38.040 I mean he said something about like you gotta take 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.560 jobs when you know he once talked about how you 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.760 take the jobs when they're at their lowest because you're 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.720 gonna look better when you take it. I don't think 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.640 that was Christian Parker's intention of taking this job. But 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.920 they literally, according to the DVOA, were the worst defense 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:52.000 in the last twenty five years. 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.200 So only you're only going up. 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.600 You're gonna look like a good coach if you make 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.720 them twenty first and that might be all they need 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.080 to be a playoff team now, if they want to 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:02.840 go far in the playoffs, they might need to be 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.520 a little bit better than that. The scheme dream I 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.920 wanted to talk about was they were the team. And 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.160 I'm not sure everyone realizes this. That played at the 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.960 fastest pace in the entire NFL last year. You have 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:18.840 Dak Prescott as smart as canny like at quarterback, as 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.120 I think any quarterback in the entire NFL, kind of 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.760 at the peak of his powers mentally, while the physical 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:29.080 attributes are still there. Everyone thought Brian Schottenheimer was going 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.760 to be like his dad and run the ball like crazy. 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.080 They actually were last in the NFL in choosing to 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:38.760 run in power situations. In terms of neutral situations, they 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.280 were well below average in choosing to run. He knew 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.480 where his best players were, and so it's not just 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.720 about that they were trailing that they let Dak do this. 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.160 And I see that George Pickens in year two of 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.040 this system. Ryan Flinoy is a good young player as 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.199 their third. It's a really veteran group, even the offensive line, 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.600 how the Tyler's you know Smith guy in Booker. Two 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.600 of those guys are young, but they've been there. Like 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.319 this is a team that can go fast, fast, fast, 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.240 and I think that works well against a lot of 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.880 what defenses are doing. So to me, that's gonna be 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:09.880 a really fun thing to watch them, just maybe playing 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.440 at a little turbo speed, which it kind of did 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:12.720 last year while no one was looking. 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:14.920 Yeah, why sit back if you don't have to and 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:19.000 get pummeled and have chances for everybody's checks to come through, 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.480 you know, the pressure schemes to all get set up, 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.840 maybe even substitute, like if you if you. 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.920 Don't have to do that, you got to trust everyone, 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.800 and you got to have and you do with Dak Prescott, 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.200 and you got to trust all the personnel to run 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.880 the play, and you got to have a versatile group 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.240 of players, and I think they do. I've really enjoyed 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.800 hearing everything at camp that Pickens has kind of come 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:42.280 in there. 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:45.520 Just like ready to go. 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.640 Because this is him, like like after he hasn't always 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:52.520 been in camps and stuff. He's had smaller injuries and 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:53.960 stuff like that over the year. So I just like 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.120 that he's healthy. I just I just love I love everything. 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.880 Then I'm here like the overreaction like after last year 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.720 where the culmination of the Pickens things was getting hurt 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.360 against Detroit and he went to a casino with CD 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:08.199 before a game like that was it. 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.280 Yeah. 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.520 What I mean is that for the people watching the 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:15.720 practice reports, it hasn't always like he hasn't been the 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:19.680 most consistent player, and I think that happens with young players. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.160 And if you get an extremely consistent season out of 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:26.920 Pickens again, they are going to be really really tough 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.360 to stop as long as that offensive line plays well enough. 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.680 I going into last season, I thought they had like 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.160 a top five ceiling, and they were I would say 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.640 well below that. In the end in terms of their 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.520 offensive line, they just need to be good. But I 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.560 think their ceiling is still pretty high. Let's talk ceiling 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:44.000 floor the whole team. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:45.280 Where do you see them? 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:46.680 The ceiling is the super Bowl. 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:47.840 Okay, let's go. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.400 I don't think that it's bluster. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.840 I think this this Cowboys team can, as a lot 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.000 of these teams can when the Super Bowl, the way 0:14:56.160 --> 0:15:00.240 things play off, I see the floor as relatively high 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:00.760 as well. 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:05.400 Ten wins, that's a high floor. It's a high floor. 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.160 But like that's the place where we're saying all things 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:09.800 are saying the court, and again. 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:11.280 We're talking in ceiling floor. 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.000 We've made it clear if you're just tuning in to 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:17.880 the division previous, that's assuming health, relative health, and so. 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.720 As thin as things are in the secondary, which every 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.640 single team has to navigate this minefield, that is a 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.320 game that's inherently not good for your body to play. 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.200 DAK plays the secondary is able to stay thin and 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.560 play that they win take games. 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.240 I think the ceiling. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.480 At first, I just thought win the division, win some 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.320 a playoff game or two, and that's about the ceiling. 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.400 I don't know if I'm backing off my like extreme 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.240 optimism that I started the offseason with because everyone's on it. 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.280 I shouldn't be like that. Don't let the outside forces 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.560 infect you. Are they one of the teams I can 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.560 imagine in the Super Bowl representing the NFC they are. 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.280 It's not that long a list, not as long a 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:01.840 list in the NFC as it is the AFC. 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:03.840 They are. I think they can make the Super Bowl. 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.280 I think the floor is closer to you know, eight 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:10.120 and nine, nine and eight, just if if the defense 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.040 just doesn't take a big step forward. You know, they 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:14.920 were still as good as the offense was a year ago. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.360 They were like eighth and dv awaight like they did 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.880 the floor for a team. I think it is a 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:21.760 round five hundred, maybe nine to eight or so. Let's 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:26.080 go to the Giants. What is bringing you joy? 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:27.920 For the New York Giants? 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:30.680 Not to be shot and fruity. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.680 I'm a little I'm a little worried about the hesitation there. 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.960 You know, You're like, is anything bringing me joy? 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:37.320 No? 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.480 Well, ultimately you get it. You get a chance to 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.320 have people talk about the adult in the room. There's 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.920 been a lot of conversation about the state of the franchise. Yeah, 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.920 and now with John Harball there to lead it. And 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.120 I'm excited for the results to play out, whatever they 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.840 may be, because I think they could possibly be instructive 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:58.480 as to how we have view circumstances regarding changes. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:01.360 Okay, so you're what's bringing joy as you're rooty against 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:01.840 John hord. 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:03.320 I'm not rooting against John Holbro. 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.680 I'm rooting against the results to play out and everybody 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.480 to adjust their expectations relative to what they see. 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.080 How high are the expectations for this team? Are they 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:13.280 that high? 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:14.760 I think they're higher than they have been. 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.760 And this is a team that has been more likely 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.119 to lose nine games than they are to go to 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:25.680 the postseason, you know if you go back the past decade, 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:30.560 and so the expectations are up. There's excitement surrounding Jackson Dart. 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.960 But I think I'm just it brings me joy that 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.320 we get to find out, Okay, we get to find 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.840 out how it works to have a quote unquote adult 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:39.440 in the room. 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.520 You're being a little sneaky here, but heck, nine losses 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.479 would be a great season for them. That would be 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.440 their second best season of the last twelve years. 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.080 Yeah, they're not third best. 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.760 Sorry, they made the playoffs twice, but every other season 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:58.080 was that at least six wins or fewer, going back 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.280 all the way to their last nine and seven season 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:01.960 with Eli Manning. 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.800 That's crazy to think about. I'll start with the draft picks. 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:12.080 Watching the first preseason game, Rvel Reese just throwing Donovan 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:17.680 Jackson that the Vikings guard aside and sticking who is 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:19.640 the running back in the hole? I think I think 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:23.240 it was Jordan Mason and just like that run stopped 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.160 right there. I think he was born to play off 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.399 ball linebacker. I'm kind of glad that he got drafted 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.280 by a team that doesn't need him at edge. And 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.600 then between him and Francis Mauinoa, who had a good 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:38.720 first preseason game two and could help transform that line 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.560 into a group where suddenly you know you got him 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:43.280 and Andrew Thomas. You okay, we got a couple of 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.480